1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Chaz Bryant that makes 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: this stuff you should know? S y s K. You 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: realize if we release every week the five minutes before 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: we podcast, like we could make them. We could make 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: money on that, especially if you said, to the Benny 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Hill music, that is the gold, this is the silver. Yeah, 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: I would, I would call that the platinum in this 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: the goal. Okay, how about that? Just to be contrary though, 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: just no bronze. Those guys are losers, bronze medal winners. Yeah, 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: third place bronze. I don't even know why you'd like 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: bring it home just leaving on the plane in that 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: little magazine pocket in front of you. Um, chuck, Yes, 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: I know that you have been to Guatemala, and I 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: know that you know. I've been to Guatemala too. Jerry's 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: been there, and we learned pretty quickly that Guatemala has 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: it hard. But um, we also learned that translated into 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: English from I think Spanish, Guatemala means God's whipping post. 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: All right, I thought you're gonna say land of many sinkholes. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: That's just one of the many problems facing Guatemala. Yeah. Um, 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: we talked, you know, extensively about mud slides, about civil war, 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: just about all these problems that Guatemala has, and uh 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: this past week, this past weekend, Guatemala faced even more problems. 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Last week there was a volcanic eruption volcano like twenty 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: click south of Guatemala City, started raining ash down and 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: then incomes Hurricane Agatha from the Pacific. I think, um 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: to get rid of all the ash, but flood the area, 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: UM create mud slides, kill a hundred and eighty people. 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: And then getting to the point of this podcast, hasten 32 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: a major sinkhole that's almost unbelievable looking in the middle 33 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: of Guatemala City. Yeah. All our Facebook lit up with 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: fans saying, have you seen this sinkhole picture? It looks 35 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it does. It looks completely fake. It 36 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: is uh sixty six ft across twenty and uh almost 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: a hundred feet deep. But when you look at it, 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: it looks like the very gates of Hell have opened up. 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: It looks and considering there's a building in there and 40 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: that you can't even see it swallowed a three story 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: apartment building. Yeah. Well, now it was a factory, it wasn't. Yeah, 42 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: it was a clothing factory. Um. And they said that 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: the guys who worked there, the people who work there, 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: left at six in the afternoon, an hour before the 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: earth opened up, so they got out. And then there's 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: some security guard too that had a schedule altered that 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: earlier that day, so he wasn't there. So just like 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the church group that, like every buddy um in the fifties, 49 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: everybody showed up late to this um like church choir practice. Uh, 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: and for all these different reasons, like all like twelve 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: or fifteen people were put were delayed and getting to 52 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: the practice, and the church happened to catch fire, and 53 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: had they all gotten there on time, they would have 54 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: burned to death. One imagines at the very least thing 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: I had to have gotten out of the church good fortune. Yeah. 56 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: So well, I guess maybe God does like Guatemala a 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: little maybe so maybe he just doesn't overtly hate it 58 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: like we thought. Yeah, this sinkhole was um, like you said, Saturday, 59 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: and um three miles from a similar sinkhole from what 60 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: was that two thousand seven? Yeah, yeah, the residents have 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: been complaining of all of the signs of sink whole's developing. 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: One happening two years earlier. That's a pretty big sign. 63 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: But then there's also creaking noise. Is um, the pavement 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: isn't exactly you know, perfectly flat. Um. There there's been 65 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: uh slight tremors maybe, yeah, I think. And they said 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: in the O seven one which f y I was 67 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty ft deep, and it appeared instantly, 68 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: almost instantly, killing three at least three people and like 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: swallowed at homes. They said that they felt the ground 70 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: shaking a month before it appeared, and that at the 71 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: time the government was going to send down like a 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: robotic camera. But it's Guatemala, so they were like, where 73 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: do we get a robotic camera? So it never happened. Yes, 74 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: that is a good point, chuck. Um. It's a kind 75 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: of an evil point, but it's a good point, right yeah. Um, 76 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: So we're talking about sink Cole's here. This one's not 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: about tropical storms, hurricanes, mud slides, right. I alway should 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: mention though that our friends at co ED and Guatemala 79 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: are all okay. They sent word and we posted on 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Facebook that they weren't affected and everyone's doing fine down there. Awesome, Okay, okay, 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: we're good. So what what what's the deal with the sinkhole? Josh? Well, 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: it depends on who you ask, schuckers Um. One of 83 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: our fellow colleague coworkers over at Discovery News, guy named 84 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Michael Riley, had a blog post um that interviewed a 85 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Guatemalan based geologist who's like, do not call that a sinkhole? 86 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: That is not a sinkhole. And he's like, well, what 87 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: would you call it? He said, I would call it 88 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: a piping feature. And I'm pretty sure the guy made 89 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: that term up. I think he did too. We did 90 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: a Google search for piping feature and it brought up 91 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: a description of pajamas, baseball uniform has something to do 92 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: with email possibly uh, and that's it. There's no there's 93 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: no geological feature formation or happening that's called a piping feature. 94 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: So this guy was like, don't call a sinkhole. Let's 95 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: all call it this term that I just made up. Well, 96 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: that's how you coin a term, my friend. It is, 97 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: But I don't think you need to be using Michael 98 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Riley's blog to do it at the very least to 99 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: say and I just made that up, you know. Anyway, 100 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: um man made sinkhole is what I think it is, right, Well, 101 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: he What he was talking about though, was the the 102 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: the bedrock under Guatemala is actually old volcanic deposits, and 103 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: usually with sinkhole's what you're talking about is a different 104 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: kind of bedrock that's actually bedrock. It's not volcanic, it 105 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: wasn't just deposited thereby, you know, something spewing it um 106 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: and you have things like limestone, dolomite. Yeah, my favorite 107 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: mineral basult. Wait, how did we ever come up with 108 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: how to say that? I think it's basalt, one of 109 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: those two gypsum. Yeah, the the carbonate or what's the 110 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: other evaporate evaporate classes of rocks, right, Yes, that is 111 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: typically what is underneath what's called the overburden, and the 112 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: overburden is just the soil that's on top of all that. Right. So, 113 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: for those of you who have never tried this, if 114 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: you go out in your backyard and dig a hole, 115 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna run out of dirt and you're gonna 116 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: hit rock. Yeah, and when you run out of dirt, 117 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: you you can say I have dug through the overburden 118 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: and have now made contact with the bedrock. Right. And 119 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the reason you mentioned all this is because that's how 120 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: sinkhole forms, at least this type of sinkhole. You have 121 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: to dig it up exactly the bedrock underneath the overburden. 122 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: It gets uh whittled away by water. This turns acidic 123 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: from absorbing c O two and interacting with plants, so 124 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: it carves out a little conduits, little pathways of sort 125 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: of like an underwater stream almost right, very much like that, 126 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: And then it loosens the soil, and then then soil 127 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: starts to fall down in these cracks. And although the 128 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: surface and the overbird may look okay up top, this 129 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: is why they seem to happen like overnight, there's just 130 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot going on underneath it. We don't see right 131 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: for weeks, months, years. Sure, you know EON's that kind 132 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: of thing. Um. So when the when the water whittles away, say, um, 133 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: a chamber the future sinkhole, which you can also call 134 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: a cave. When you're going caving, what you're doing is 135 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: walking through basically a dry conduit sinkhole system. Right, good point. 136 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: So when the uh, the sinkholes formed right whettle away 137 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: by water and the overburden starts spilling into it, which 138 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: is called spawling. It's spawling, right, Um. That means that 139 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: there is much less of it above. It's like an 140 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: hour glass basically, yeah. Right, And then when somebody walks 141 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: on it, drives on it, builds a building on it. Yes, 142 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: that that salt, what appeared to be solid, is now 143 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: in the bottom of this hole. Yeah. And oftentimes it 144 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: can um that the what I called the overburden is 145 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: solid enough to hold up even though it might be 146 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: hollow underneath. It can hold up for a little while 147 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: if nothing is on it. But like you said, the 148 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: problem comes when something is planted on top of it, 149 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: like a car, right, And that's actually called a cover 150 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: collapse sinkhole. And that's what we think of like for sinkholes, 151 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: these really dramatic, sudden, holy cow sinkholes. Right. I would 152 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: like to call it the coolest sinkhole, but since you know, 153 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: people do die, Yeah, exactly, Chuck. There's two other kinds 154 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: of sinkholes, right, um that are slightly less dramatic. Yeah, 155 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: the cover cover subsidence sinkhole. Yeah, this is this is 156 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: possibly the least dramatic syncole. Basically it is, Um, this 157 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: is this is a very similar process happens, except uh, 158 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: you get the impression it happens much more slowly, right 159 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Chuck was talking about. Imagine like, um, a straw coming 160 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: into you know those little nitro sock side tubes, the 161 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: little chargers. Yeah, for like for the little industrial arts 162 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: cars that you made sure or making whipped cream or whatever. 163 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: You know. Um, you've got a straw going into one 164 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: of those in a straw coming out. So it's like narrow, narrow, 165 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: fat narrow. Again, that would be like conduit sinkhole or cave, um, 166 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: because it's pretty much a cave until the top collapses. Uh, 167 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: and then conduit again. All right, So these conduits allow 168 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: water to go in and out, but as spalling occurs, 169 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the the dirt, the sediment, the overburden the soil spills 170 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: into the loose parts right right, and it can clog 171 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: up the conduits. Right. So what you have then for 172 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: the cover subsidence sinkhole is basically just a depression in 173 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: the earth, but a dirt depression and a lot of 174 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: times they're not very big either. We're talking like a 175 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: few feet. Right. One of the ways across one of 176 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: the ways to deal with the sinkhole small one is 177 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: to fill it with sand and boom bang bam. Yeah, 178 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: that's what the Florida Management UH District says. And Florida's 179 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of allows you with sinkholes because of all the sand. 180 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: But these cover subsidence. Sinkholes often turned into ponds because 181 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: rainwater starts collecting, it has nowhere to go because the 182 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: kinduests are blocked, and bam, you get yourself a brand 183 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: spanking new pond and it's good fishing. Yes, it is, 184 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: I imagine. Uh. And then the third one, chuck a 185 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: dissolution or solution sink coole. Are you starting to see 186 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: a pattern here? Not spilling, spawling, dissolution or solution sinkhole. Right, 187 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: it's a geology. It's like take your pick. Yeah that 188 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: these are um actually not as dramatic either, And that's 189 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: usually if you just have like a thin overburden that 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: washes away and the rhodes over time and umposes the bedrock. Yeah, exposed. 191 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I always want to say twitch twitch after you say 192 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: bed rock each time from the flint Stones remember that, No, 193 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: you're like flint Stones. I mean I remember the flint 194 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: Stones and they lived in Bedrock. But what's the twitch 195 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: the that was the one episode where they had the 196 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: movie star singer come to town, Tony Kurt Rock or 197 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: was Yeah, and that was a song in Bedrock twitch 198 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: twitch I don't remember that one. Wow, showing my age. 199 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: I like the one with Mr. Rock She's a hot cartoon. Yeah, 200 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: it's so funny that all the names were like rock oriented. 201 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: Never figured that one out because they lived in the 202 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: Stone Age's just kidding, um. But the big rack of 203 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: ribs on the car that tipped the car where that 204 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: was normal? That was a Bronosurus rib rack. Yeah, that's 205 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: good eating. That's what they ate in the Stone Age. Yes, So, 206 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: like you said, you can get a new um, a 207 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: new pond when you have a dissolution syinnkhole. Is that 208 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: where we were, Yeah, you can get a pond from 209 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: that to Basically, the difference between a cover subsidence and 210 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: a dissolution sinkhole is one is possibly grassy right, the 211 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: other is exposed rock right, So a grassy depression both 212 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: can be ponds. Both of them have their conduits covered. Really, 213 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: when you think a sinkhole, the one we're talking about 214 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: is the cover collapse. Oh my god, save me, sink whole. 215 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: So we need to talk about human beings and what 216 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: we can do. There's actually those you know, a lot 217 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: of those are naturally occurring sinkholes just because of erosion. 218 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: But humans can actually contribute to sinkholes, uh, in a 219 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Yeah, I mean think about it. We 220 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: talked about reservoir induced seismicity. Yeah, same deal, that's just 221 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. Totally. We are really screwing 222 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: with the geophysical properties of Mother Earth. I'm constantly amazed 223 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: every time I go to New York that New York 224 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: is still like a standing, functioning city for now. Yeah, 225 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: well it's true. Well yeah, let's hope it's keeps standing 226 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: for at least the next week exactly. Uh, drilling, Josh, mining, 227 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: um foot traffic, vehicle traffic, increased water flow, broken pipes. 228 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: The other thing that you know, we talked about humans 229 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: causing an earthquake, extracting water from the subsurface. That can 230 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: be a big problem CAUs sinkholes. So that's how man. 231 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: Those are just a few ways that man can create 232 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: one basically, and that's what they think happened in Guatemala, 233 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: right yeah, um, basically with plumbing, and we have the 234 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: same problem here in Atlanta. I'm a little nervous to 235 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: admit our sewer system is like a hundred years old. 236 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: Guatemala cities is not too much older, you know, or younger. 237 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: It's right about the same age. Um. So a sewer 238 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: pipe bursts, right and you think, well, okay, this is 239 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: very bad. Erodes the soil because of the water movement, 240 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: not just that it has it. It provides a double whammy. Actually, um, 241 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: it erodes the dirt and it actually gives it a 242 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: place to be carried away through that first sewer pipe. 243 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: So imagine the sewer pipe and then bam, it burst 244 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: and there's a big hole there. The spewing water, the 245 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: water pressure is just eroding soil above it, right uh. 246 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: And it's it's eroding the overburden and and then it's 247 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: also this big hole in the pipe is giving a 248 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: place for the soil to be taken away. So it's 249 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: eroding it taking it away, creating a cavern and the 250 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: bam and that's yeah, that's exactly what happened in Guatemala 251 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: City both times. Well, actually the I mean I read 252 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: today they said they still aren't sure what happened in 253 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: this most that's what happened, Okay, they said, the guys 254 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: that we have to descend into it to find out 255 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: what happened. The guy who called it a piping feature, No, 256 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: it was some other guy that you like better. Uh, 257 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: let's talk about Polk County, Florida. Yeah, I think we should. 258 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: That was a human caused sinkhole. And here's what's going 259 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: on in Florida. You know when you use for fertilizer 260 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: in your yard, which and you'd like to do, Yeah, 261 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: it's got phosphate in it, and about thirty of the 262 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: entire world's phosphate. Uh stash comes from Florida. So the 263 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: problem with this stuff is this radioactive Miley radioactive. And 264 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: so Florida said, well, well, here's what we're gonna do. 265 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna stack it up and huge stacks, so it's 266 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: all in one place, and we're talking hundreds of acres, 267 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: millions of tons. The result, years later, in central Florida, 268 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: a billion tons of it basically created a sinkhole. The 269 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: weight crushed the sand underneath it and create a huge sinkhole. Right, Yeah, 270 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Florida is already. Um what what's known as a CARST 271 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: region and CARST region is it's a type of topography. Yes, yes, 272 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: And if you want to see some cool video on 273 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: a carst on CARST regions, um, check out watersheds dot 274 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: org slash earth slash krst awesome stuff. Um and uh, 275 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: CARST region is basically it's a type of topography that 276 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: features a lot of caverns, sinkholes, um springs, all this 277 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: geological these geological features created by the movement of water. Right, Um, 278 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Florida is lousy with this stuff. But then, as you 279 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: were saying, it had this extra added benefit of billions 280 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: of tons of FoST foot chips radioactive byproducts. And then bam, Yeah, 281 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: and in that one collapse in Polk County, the stuff 282 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: collapsed into the water supply and polluted the entire state supply. 283 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that's not good. Well, it's not good. But I mean, 284 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go silver lining here, which I'm not 285 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: one to do. Uh, it did make them all take 286 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: a hard look at how they dispose of you know, 287 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: harmful byproducts. Right, They're like, you can't just stack it 288 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: up until it falls through the earth. They're like, well, 289 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: what should we do? Right, and they're still trying to 290 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: answer that one. Yeah, which I took. Took a lot 291 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: of money in time that would clean up their water supply. Yeah, 292 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: and chuck, let's get in our balloon and go over 293 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: to Barzynski, Russia. We haven't been our balloon in a 294 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: long time. I know it's got a little dusty you 295 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: need to clean up in here. I know there's a 296 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: dead raccoon in the corner that's creepy. Yeah, don't look 297 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: at it. Uh. And so in Barzynski, Berezni, Breznicki, Breznicki. Yes, yeah, 298 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I almost took us to Brezynski. Jeez, that was close. 299 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: We're going to Breznicki Russia. Uh In uh I think 300 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: six They had another fertilizer related sinkhole problem. Right. Pot 301 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: Ash potash, it's actually pot that's what the lady said 302 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: on the pronunciation guide. Really and she said potash. So's 303 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: the robot, that's what we're going with. Yeah, six hundred 304 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and fifty six ft deep, two d and sixty ft 305 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: LONGDT one ft wide and growing. So for our non 306 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: American non librarian. And then what Burma may be sure. Uh, 307 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: that would be two hundred meters deep, eighty meters long 308 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: and forty wide. That's a huge sinkhole. And the reason 309 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: was they were just removing uh, potash, potash from the 310 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: ground through mine and it became flooded. And that was 311 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: that question. The sink holes always caused massive destruction and 312 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: killed people in swallow buildings. Yes, no, not true. They're 313 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: actually a lot of times you're just kind of like 314 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: an annoyance. Um the ones you can fill with sand, right, 315 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: or ones that aren't around, um, you know, an urban 316 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: civilized area, like if they're out in the boonies, it's 317 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: kind of cool, like really cool. If we're talking about 318 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: the ones in Venezuela, the sorry sorry Nama sinkholes. Did 319 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: you see those things? I saw this picture of them. Yeah, 320 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: well I didn't mean literally have you descended into them? 321 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: But those are really cool because those are in the 322 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: Tapui region, these really high mass Basically it's like at 323 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: the top of a mountain, you'll just see a forest, 324 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: dense forest, and then these huge, perfectly round holes thousand 325 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: ft deep yea deep in these crazy oh yeah, these 326 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: crazy dudes like put the parachutes and jump into them. Yeah, 327 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: very cool. They did on that the Planet Earth. Um. 328 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: Actually I don't think it was there, but did you 329 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: ever watch that the Planet Earth Discovery thing. Yes, they 330 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: gave us that when they bought us as a gift. 331 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: It was really cool. But it has the base jumpers 332 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: jumping into these things. It's crazy. That's awesome. They also 333 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: have a say no taste. Yeah, did you see those 334 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: into loom? Yes, because they got a lot of them 335 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: down there, right, Yes, they do. They're everywhere into loom 336 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: and they're awesome. So basically that is um a sinkhole 337 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: that is now a pool, right yeah, and they're there 338 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: for some reason. There's I guess the water collects. It 339 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: percolates down from the top, so there's always a dripping sound, 340 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: and then it collects in the bottom of the sinkhole, 341 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: usually bedrock or light sediment um. But during the percolation 342 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: process it becomes purified. So it's this incredible like bluish 343 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: water um that's totally pure. We're just yeah, huge for snorkeling, 344 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: scuba diving, that kind of thing. And they're also very 345 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: um sacred places I guess among the Maya maybe um. 346 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: And there's like a big movement to uh preserve these 347 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: saint no tastes because they were they were believed to 348 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: be um um portal to the next world, and so 349 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: they'd like sacrifice people and stuff there. They are wicked 350 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: cool looking. I plan to go one day, okay and 351 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: tread the ground that you tread into Loom. There is uh. 352 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of the ruins around on the 353 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: Yucatan or will have a saint note. Well, they have 354 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: ruins near to Loom, right, huh and then chuck. Lastly, 355 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: probably the biggest sinkhole on the planet is the Qatara 356 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: Depression right in Egypt. It's like three hundred feet deep 357 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: or four hundred and thirty six, yes, four hundred and 358 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: thirty six hundred and thirty one deep size of Lake 359 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: Erie basically. Yeah, but it's like seventy five miles wide, 360 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: which is add twenty kilometers. Yeah, it's it's not I 361 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of expected more to Did you see pictures It 362 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: looks sort of just looks like a desert basin sort of. Yeah. 363 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: I thought it's not nearly as cool looking as the 364 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: ones in Venezuela. No, And if you want to see 365 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: cool picture of the ones in Venezuela. You can type 366 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: sinkhole into how stuff works dot Com. There's also a 367 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: cool flash animation on zero of how sinkhole's form and 368 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: really to sum up sinkhole's form, because water moves underground, 369 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: it rose erodes the overburdened above combat. There you have it. Okay, Um, 370 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: and I think I said handy search bar at how 371 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: stuff works dot Com? Right? If not, I just did, 372 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: which means it's time for a listener. Meant yes, Josh, 373 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: serial killers. I just need to say, judging from the 374 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: Facebook and fan reaction, that we have a sick and 375 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: twisted audience. I thought it was funny that a lot 376 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: of people felt they need to be like, you know, 377 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: not to be morbid or anything, but real coach, everybody 378 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: loves serial killers. Okay, just go with it. Before I 379 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: read these, Josh, I should just point out a quick correction. 380 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: Ted Bundy Um did his final Sorority House actions at 381 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: Florida State, not Florida, and I knew that too. I 382 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: don't know why I said UF Yeah, I thought it 383 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: was Florida the whole time. I'm not a big Florida 384 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: Gator fan, as you know, but I'm sure that had 385 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. You. Uh, we heard from 386 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: a bunch of people. Josh kind of jokingly said, if 387 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: you know of any serial killers. Turns out a bunch 388 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: of people have come into contact with surprising amount. Uh, 389 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: And so I have a bunch of them. I'm gonna 390 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: run down you. You want to read some of these two? Oh, sure, 391 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: I'll give you that page. Uh. This is from Solomon. 392 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: My mom told me a story when she was in 393 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Washington in the late seventies. She graduated college, moved there 394 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: to work as a social worker in Seattle. She was 395 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: supposed to meet up with a friend one day and 396 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: co worker in her roommate, and they waited for hours 397 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: and hours, but they never showed. She spoke to her 398 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: co worker later and said the reason she never came 399 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: because her friend was missing. Turns out, long story short, 400 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: that she went to help a guy with a sailboat 401 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: and the parking lot buffalo bill style, can't help me 402 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: get this couch in the van. She got there and 403 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: there was no sailboat. And it turns out that this 404 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: guy was Ted Bundy and the friend was janics Ott, 405 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: one of his final victims. It's from Solomon. All right, 406 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I've got a give one. This is my favorite. This 407 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: is from Justin. My grandfather once knew a serial killer. 408 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: They were in the same fantasy baseball league. I do 409 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: not know his name. Unfortunately, he was kicked out of 410 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: the league for cheating and his family left him, so 411 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: he resorted to shooting people in the head with the pistol. 412 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: The police had him cornered in a motel, so he 413 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: covered himself in baseball cards and committed suicide. That's from Justin. 414 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't know about that one, just said at the 415 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: very least Justin as a great imagination. Yes. Uh. This 416 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: one comes from Karen h. Just a tidbit, guys. My 417 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: aunt's first husband was a corner on the Manson murders, 418 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Tate la Bianca. I never met him because they divorced 419 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: before I was born, but my aunt always talked about 420 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: him during the murders. Her ex husband also founded the 421 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Coroner's gift shop. I thought that was strange, 422 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: strange and awesome kind of the gift shop at least. Uh. 423 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: This one's from Megan. I just wanted to tell you 424 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: that my stepdad's brother murdered two people. They were my 425 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: stepdad's friends. My stepdad recounted always feeling a little odd 426 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: around his brother. There. He said the hair on his 427 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: arms and neck would rise when his brother would talk 428 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: to him. His brother's His brother used to catch sparrows 429 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: as a child and show firecrackers into their butts and 430 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: let them go after he lit them, which is pretty awful. 431 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: Thanks Megan. Yeah, that's part of the McDonald triad. I 432 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: would say, uh, two quickens here on Jeffrey Dahmer. Apparently 433 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: he had a bunch of neighbors that listened to our show. 434 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: Joel says, around the time of the killings, my mom 435 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: lived next door to Jeffrey Dahmers. She met him twice 436 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: and she said he seemed like a nice guy, but 437 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: a little weird. I would say so anyway, I just 438 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: thought I would share my little anecdote with you guys. 439 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: Joel and from Coal and Cincinnata says, my father went 440 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: to preschool with Jeffrey Dahmer. He doesn't remember him torturing 441 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: small animals or anything, but one fact sticks out. He 442 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: liked to walk around with his cheeks sucked in. My 443 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: dad said, picture someone making a fishy face. My dad's 444 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: theory was that Jeffy was saving his taste for human flesh. 445 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: But that's pure speculation. Wow, that is pure speculation. Thanks 446 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: for that. Checkov had a couple more, uh, if that's 447 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: okay with you, Yes, all right. There's one from anonymous 448 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: in Florida who wanted to give the attention to the 449 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: victim and not take any for herself. I went to 450 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: high school with a girl who became the victim of 451 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: a serial killer known as the Gainesville Ripper, Danny Rolling. 452 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't close friends with her, but she was in 453 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: my freshman English honors class. So that's from anonymous. Kurt's 454 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: lived eight minutes away from Dennis raiders home the bt 455 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: K killer, and the house where he murdered one of 456 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: his victims is across the street from the hardware shop 457 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: where I shop. And it turns out b t K 458 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Dennis Raider uh murdered more than three people over the 459 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: course of his career. Still kind of a poop poo 460 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: serial killer career, in my opinion, said I was, you 461 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: got any more? I got one more? Go ahead. Back 462 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: in night, my dad's best friend's family was targeted by 463 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: the Zodiac Killer. We recently met up with her daughter 464 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: and she told us the story that one of her relatives, 465 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: David Arthur Faraday, was killed by Mr Zodiac and the 466 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: fear of someone else being killed caused them to leave California, 467 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: which meant my dad lost contact with her. Thanks for 468 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: the podcast and fully expect you to to release new 469 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: episodes even after you are dead. Jerry. Slightly disturbing. It was, 470 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: especially in relation to the Zodiac killing and especially since 471 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: it was written by our own Jerry. Yeah, it was, 472 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: wasn't it. I got one more? This is from Leslie, 473 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: and Leslie has Josh known three murderers. Wow, and she's 474 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: still around. The First person Robert Bennett, a k a. 475 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: The handcuff Man, who I think was caught in Atlanta. 476 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: He lived just across the street from me in to 477 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: wand Up, Pennsylvania, and we used to sneak through the 478 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: alley beside his house to get to school and we 479 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: would sneak into his pool. Yeah, dangerous business. Second was 480 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Eric Smith, a kid from Sonoma, New York, who murdered 481 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: a four year old boy. His grandfather was my science 482 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: teacher and a family friend. And finally, the recent murderer 483 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: I've known was Messak Dumas, who murdered his family here 484 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: in Naples. I worked with him for a while at 485 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: a restaurant and knew his wife from the grocery store 486 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: right shop. And that's from Leslie. So she's done three 487 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: murderers and good for her, Leslie. UM, keep your eyes peeled. 488 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: That's what I want to remain on point. I've never 489 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: known anybody who's known that many murderers before. UM chuck 490 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: tag teaming listener mail makes me feel like Michelle Norris 491 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: and Robert Siegel. 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