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That ship really 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: snuck up on me. 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: Bro. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: The year is. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: January usually is long, though, isn't it. Isn't that the 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: thing like like the year go fast and the first 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: by slow? 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Did you feel like January was long? 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: I mean usually? 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We got all kinds of crazy 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: shit to talk about today. We're talking about, uh, the 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: Washington football team. We're talking about Ben Simmons. We're gonna 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: talk about Brian Flores and how the NFL is still racist, 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: and uh, we will be talking about h R I 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: P to Milltown, Melly the Groundhog, the official groundhog of 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: the Oh you're not plugged in like me? And as 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: always got a. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: Big roundhog Day duet y'all y'all can have eh as always. 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones is hosted by my my dear friends 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: in real life and on the Internet, even when they're 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: fucking flaying me open about the NBA skills contest. Legethro Jenkins, Hey, John, 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: And you notice. 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: I ended it with a I love you, Mike, because 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 4: I love it. 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: I love no for sure A couple Yeah at Dragonfly 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Jones aka. 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 5: Tyler, Hey, everybody have a gun. 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm GUARDI b aka Mike. Most people I think watched 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: that clip and had the exact takeaway that I did 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: the first time I saw it, which is, like, this 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: is actual friendship. This is not podcast friendship, Like this 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: is what being friends with people. 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: It was the nicest flame session ever, you know what 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: I mean? 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: Like, we let you know that that's not the take, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: but you know. 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: I stand by my take. 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: Good for you, you know what. 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: I love what you know standing bottom line, I'm gonna 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: live tweet the skills Please do, please do. Van Fleets 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: Bounce pass, Generational meet me. 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: And the Woolsworst. We're watching the skills contest. 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Tyler. Let's talk about the Washington football team, formerly a 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: word that I don't say, now newly minted as the 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: Washington Commander's news broken via Kent Brockman on Springfield Channel six. You, 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: as a former Washington football fan, bro how do you 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: feel about, first of all, about the name being leaked 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: by a helicopter peeking through a window, and about the 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: whole shebang bang today. 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: First of all, the fucking name leak. 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Of course, with some Washington football last shit, you wouldn't 70 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: expect anything. 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: Less from this cloud show. 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: They had a motherfucking twenty foot band in the fucking 73 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: window that just said Commanders on that shit, what the fuck? 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: And the name is weak as hell. For one, it's 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: some goddamn built, four tough police. 76 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: Dog ass names. 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is it is? It is 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: a very dope, tread on me ass name that I 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: do not fuck with. But it's better than the alternative. 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: It's better than the you know, the RS, which even 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: as a kid, I though with some bullshit. I'm glad 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: they've gotten away from that. But you know, I feel 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: like they could have gone campy or you know, cartoonish 84 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: with like red hogs or something. You know what I'm saying, 85 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: something ridiculous like that. That would have been so ridiculous. 86 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I would have actually liked it, Like you know, I'm 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a big fucking Richmond Flying Squirrels fan, you know what 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I got three of those fitutes. 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 5: I love that ridiculous ass team name. I was hoping 90 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 5: they go that route, but. 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: They went Commanders with a sur yes surface ass And 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with a dog. 93 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: When you see Commanders in like a twenty foot banner 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: like that, like, were you not like e? You know 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Commanders in that size and you still 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: don't think it's a bad decision. 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: That's all. But I don't. 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: I thought, I mean, I seem like everybody was liking, 99 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: like the Washington football team, they leaned into it. 100 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: Why didn't they just keep that? Yeah? 101 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I did, you know, I came around on the Washington 102 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: football team because, like I said, it was so ridiculous 103 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: that I actually warmed up to it after a while. 104 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: And I did love the numbers on the helmet. I 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: thought that was a real clean look. But the Commanders, the. 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Jerseys, they're they're unveiling the jerseys today. If someone correctly 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: pointed out they look like Maryland alternates, like they're the 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: most blaized. 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: That was master. Yeah he's correct. 110 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: I mean it's just, you know, it looks like an 111 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: Arizona state or a Maryland alternate. And I'm with John, 112 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: like I like I liked Washington football team. It's like soccer, 113 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like we could have 114 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: one of those WFT. I thought, like that's a good abbreviation. 115 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: The funny thing is, you're right about the Commanders being 116 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: a fucking and Bill burb Chevy Silverado's fucking name. But 117 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: but it abbreviates to the commis like people are gonna 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: be rooted for the like people already said, let's go 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: comedy's chance. 120 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: Yo, that's crazy, which is the opposite of what they 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: want with this military ass day, right. They do not 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: want to be associated with commedism with that fucking don't 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: tread on me ass name respect the troops. 124 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: Ass name, bro. 125 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: Commanders is a name you give a football team in 126 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: a movie. 127 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: Because you can't give it an actual football name, you 128 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 129 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 6: Like any given Sunday right right, that name the Washington Commanders, 130 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: they're gonna have the same dude that does afford for 131 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 6: commercials fucking in the in the promotions, do who you 132 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 6: feel me? 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: The Washington Commanders are here today? What the fuck? Oh 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 3: we'll drive seven thousand, got it here? Five hundred? 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Tork what they just show a bunch of bolts when 136 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: they say torch. 137 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Nobody knows what it actually is. 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: I think. 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 140 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: The video of the zoom in from the helicopter was 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: like your brain just automatically inserts the Curb your Enthusiasm 142 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: theme song over that video because the zoom it takes 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: like eight seconds to zoom all the way. 144 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: It's like they did it with their phone, their iPhone, 145 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: because it was. 146 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: So like, you know, motherfucker wrote out there with a 147 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: helicopter and their whole part, Yeah, who from a fucker 148 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: hopped in a helicopter on Tuesday evening and when it 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: fucked the whole franchisees reveal only fucking Washington man they. 150 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: Were getting before they even released the name. Like you 151 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, the internet was. 152 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: I sent you guys a video of the people doing 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: the the Commander's thing to the fucking Farmer's Insurance song outside. 154 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: It's better to boom, Bro, It's better to boo than 155 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: to cheer when you shouldn't cheer, you know, for so. 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: All right, boom get that. 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: It was like motherfuckers, bright and early on a DC morning, 158 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: it's eighteen degrees outside, y'all live for his weak ass 159 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: name revealed bro. 160 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: As a commanding performance. Really special stuff, job, Mike, I 161 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: love it, Thanks, Buddy. Let's talk about Ben Simmons. I've really, 162 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: I've come all the way around. I think Ben Simmons 163 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: is my hero at this point. Bro, this man is 164 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: so fucking he's so out there and his refusal to 165 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: participate in being professional in any capacity. They said, there's 166 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: an ESPN story out, and included in the ESPN story 167 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: is that he was upset Joel Embiid for blaming him 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: for last season's playoff loss, which I mean, I understand 169 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: late game execution gets an outside spotlight put on it, 170 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, But how else could you 171 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: interpret the end of that playoff series and for him 172 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: to use that as fuel too. He was in the 173 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: six Ers gym working out while they were playing a 174 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: game twenty minutes away. This is so fucking working out 175 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: to stay in shape for in case he gets straighted. 176 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: Bro. 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: It's the craziest shit ever. I can't believe it's February 178 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: and this is still what's happening. How do you guys 179 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: feel about Ben Simmons. 180 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie when when the report service that 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, he felt that Embiid kind of crossed the 182 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: line with him, that he never crossed with him because 183 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: he didn't apole on him for how he stunk it 184 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: up in the twenty nineteen The Raptors. Yeah, I felt that, though, 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I thought, because that's 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: on some like you ever had a motherfucker. Like, Yo, 187 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: I thought he wasn't tripping off that shit because I 188 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: let that shit lie. But you're tripping off this, you 189 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like we've all been there before, 190 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure, co workers, with friends, whatever. So I feel 191 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: him on that, you know what I'm saying. And they said, 192 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: it's cast him like what nineteen million so far to 193 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: sit this season out nineteen minutes. 194 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if I would ever stand on something. 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: That what calls me to lose nineteen million, but you 196 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like at least it's also destroying 197 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: your reputation, right, But like I said, like like he's 198 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: telling the sixers, y'all said, y'all want to trade me? 199 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: Stick to that shit, you know what I'm saying. So 200 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: he'll it looks like he's he'll, he's down to sit 201 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: out the whole season. But you know there's also these 202 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: whispers about Harden and Morior or you know, buddying up 203 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: hard and it is not too happy in Brooklyn. He 204 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: might come to fucking Philly and I'm sure, yeah, I'm 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: sure if fucking Harden and Embeid or there Simmons might 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying get back out there too. 207 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: So who the fuck knows? 208 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: There's a reason Maria is turning down literally every offer 209 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 4: for Ben Simmons because he knows Harden will be on 210 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: the table. 211 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. He wants Harden, you feel me? 212 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: But like there was a report that they said, like, 213 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: you've lost nineteen million in Ben Simmons's camp. Well, somebody 214 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: anonymously said, we don't give a fuck about money. 215 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: Nineteen million is not money. Nineteen million is nineteen fucking million. Okay, 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: you care about nineteen million. I don't give a fuck 217 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: what nobody says. 218 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: Who I'm looking at. 219 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: Kind of left Rich Paul Like that's why I'm like, 220 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: kind of like Rich, I don't know, Bro, we saw you. 221 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: Who's homie that lost eighty mili because of Rich? The 222 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: big fella? NUH's Noel. 223 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, Bro, I don't know if this was 224 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: the way to handle this. I think Rich mismanaged this. 225 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: I think he's getting some bad advice. If you're sitting 226 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: out losing nineteen million dollars and ruining your reputation, what 227 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: have you really gained? 228 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 229 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: But having an agent is like it's like having a lawyer. 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: I think unless you're in the room with them, you 231 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: can't say, you know. Lawyers talk all the time about 232 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: People will say they have a good lawyer or a 233 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: bad lawyer. Lawyers will say I have a good client 234 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: or a bad I hear you, Ben Simmons. If Ben 235 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: Simmons doesn't want to play, all Rich Paul can do 236 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 2: is be the representative of a guy who doesn't want 237 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: to play. 238 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: So and don't. 239 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: We don't know, because maybe you're right, maybe rich, Maybe 240 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: Rich is behind this, but maybe it's also like man, 241 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: like the person in Ben's camp said, we're standing on 242 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: our principles. 243 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think this has been more than anything. 244 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's down to lose nineteen million if 245 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to and not play basketball if they 246 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: really want to. 247 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'm thinking Ben is on 248 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: board with this ship. 249 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: You think rich one might be putting something in his ear, 250 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: but Ben is all aboard on it. 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: I think I would have thought that yo, something's gonna 252 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: happen prior that would have made me set out. But 253 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: if you already out this long, you might as well continue. 254 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: I've already lost fifteen, I might as well lose nineteen mili, 255 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. But I think, like I 256 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: would imagine for me to have set out the season, 257 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm thinking that things are gonna go, that things are 258 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: gonna be, you know, fixed much earlier where I might. 259 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not getting anywhere near nineteen million loss. 260 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: That's how I feel. 261 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. I'm not in the rooms 262 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 3: with nobody. I'm not a fucking insider, you feel me, this. 263 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: Just looks wild, you know what I'm saying to me 264 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: when it comes to you know, Rich Paul as well 265 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: as been Simmons. But I just don't see what there's 266 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: a gain at this point, you know, Like now you 267 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 4: just I mean, I don't. 268 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: I don't see what there's a game. 269 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm also someone who doesn't care about money 270 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: and has not made professional decisions in my life based 271 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: on money. But I still know what everything costs, you 272 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like that's what like it's a 273 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: difference between like I want to live a happy life, 274 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Like I've turned down a lot of higher paying jobs 275 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: because I don't want to commute. I know a commute 276 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: would not be good for my brain in the way 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: that I live and foreseeing my kids and everything right. 278 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: So that's turning down sometimes a significant increase in money. 279 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: But nineteen million dollars is not money. 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: It's not it's me. 281 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: It's a it's a like conceptual the construct, like a 282 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: different kind of white brow bro. What what did I 283 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: don't know? 284 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: He's thrown away money that if I were to have 285 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 4: generations and generations and generations of my family would not 286 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: have to work. 287 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: If we invested it right, My family may not have 288 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: to work ever again, like my whole lineage. If we 289 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: invested it. 290 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Right, nineteen million dollars returning eight percent a year, push 291 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: my great grandkids through whatever college they want to go to. 292 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, dude, without me doing 293 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: any work between now. 294 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: And two, three million dollars eight percent a year, me 295 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: or my family doesn't like my immediate family never has 296 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: to work again, you know what I'm saying. 297 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: Like, we'll be good in most locations on the planet. 298 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 299 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: Sign the three of us to be Ben Simmons. 300 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: Please please, We'll do it. 301 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: We'll come in there stacked on each other in a 302 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: fucking jacket, in an overcoat, We'll make it work. Trust me, 303 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: doesn't sound appealing, but we'll figure it out. 304 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: Shit for night deals on top, bro dims on the door. 305 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: They could they. 306 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: They could glue us together. 307 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: I sacrificed that for my family, for real fucking rat 308 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: king basketball the bottom. 309 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't care. 310 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: There's some flagrant, wild shit I do for nineteen millions, 311 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: and I'm not embarrassed about any of it. 312 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: It's nineteen million. It's not just money. 313 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: Did you guys see the video that came out over 314 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: the weekend of a ref basketball ref at an AAU 315 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: tournament getting literally two hand choked by a coach. Yes, 316 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: this is the wildest shit ever. And then his the 317 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: other ref came up and snuck on the coach, which 318 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: is good because he might have killed the dude, you 319 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean? But what'd you guys think of 320 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: that video? I could not believe that shit. Even in 321 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: a society where I could believe everything, at this point, 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: I could not believe. 323 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: That shit that tournaments. I've never seen coaches in ref's fight, 324 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've seen players in red 325 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: have to be separated. Players and coaches have to be separated. 326 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: I've seen players bang, I have never seen coaches and 327 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: reps and a fucking strangle off, you know, right, And 328 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Shasta was told me who came up and you know, 329 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: stuck him a few good beef strangle offs held me 330 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: ran up and you know, got damn hit it with 331 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: that ying ying right quick. 332 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying said because. 333 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: I love I love a real nigga siding and that 334 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: other rep that came in just bro, somebody said zeb 335 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: was always running packs. 336 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like when I retweeted it, 337 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: like you know, real friends. 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: But I mean the rest getting paid like eight bucks, 339 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: the coaches getting paid less. 340 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: You're getting me paid zero dollars to coach that team. 341 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: And this is how mad. 342 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: You get over this. 343 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. But I love this strangle off. And what 344 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: really matters is how strong the quads are in that 345 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: you know what. 346 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Because that's what's gonnakeep you from going back 347 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: and forth. They're strangling each other, flexing their quads in 348 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: the middle of the court. 349 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 350 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: It's that ref beat the Detroit Urban Survival Training guy. 351 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, he needed. 352 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: To turn that around, bro, He needed to turn that 353 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: around on that coach he needed to find the pressure 354 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: point on his elbow unlocked. 355 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: I have seen, I have seen videos on how to 356 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: break a choke code, which I don't ever want to 357 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: be in the position to have to really actually work it. 358 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: But they say go under their arms like this and 359 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: then come out like that, which sounds. 360 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: You know what, sounds feasible, But if you've ever lost 361 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: oxygen supply to your brain for one point five seconds, 362 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: everything sounds feasible until there's no air going. Yeah, I'm 363 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: a yeah, I don't know better better you know, thankfully 364 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: not me, I guess, but I you know, I will 365 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: say this. This is actually a really big story in California, 366 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: in basketball as well as football. There is a it 367 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: might be nationwide. I don't know. I just follow you know, 368 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: U sports. In California, there's an enormous ref shortage for 369 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: high school sports and down and it's because it's shit 370 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: like this, And I don't know if people understand, Like 371 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: anytime a video like that goes viral, Another eighteen year 372 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: old Mike who used to referee, who used to you know, 373 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: officiate flag football or youth basketball games, goes fuck that 374 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: for you know, like you said, for fifteen bucks an hour. 375 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm a risk a grown man choking me to death 376 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: in front of my family and friends, you know, and 377 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: without those people, I mean they're talking about in California 378 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: they might have to be having high school football games 379 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: on Wednesdays and shit in the next couple of years 380 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: because there's just not enough referees, bro. And so you 381 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: think about that for the youth levels, and then how 382 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: much people need that to get college scholarships and stuff. 383 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it really is getting ugly out here. And 384 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: every youth official I know says the last five years 385 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: has gotten so bad, from Little League up to high 386 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: school sports with just parents being fucking nuts. Bro, You've 387 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: got it, fucking chill man. It's just your kid playing 388 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: sports on a Saturday. Bro. This is not the fucking NBA. 389 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: And if it was an NBA, you want to be 390 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: choking the fucking referee. 391 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like this might be an oversimplification, 392 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: but I feel like with all labor shortest problems, there's 393 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: an easy fix, and that's pay motherfucker's more. 394 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 395 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: If motherfucker are getting paid forty an hour, fifty an 396 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: hour to be reps, motherfucker's gonna be lining up outside 397 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: the building, you know what I'm saying, So that might 398 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: be a move they have to make, who knows what. 399 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: So like, parents just need to fucking relax. 400 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: I coached my little I was coaching my little brother 401 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: and there was no ref so I had to ref 402 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: one of the games. 403 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 404 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: Right, it was second graders. The parents were like, oh, 405 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: I'm like dog like. Like the parents were like fussing 406 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: because I would miss a call or whatever and I 407 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't say do you want to coach? I mean, do 408 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: you want to ref? I don't know what I'm doing 409 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: out here. They just asked me to do. 410 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: I don't, you know what I mean? Like, I don't. 411 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: I'm not a ref, you know what I mean? Like 412 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: I am volunteering, I am. You know what I'm saying. 413 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: Do you want to ref? You know what I mean? 414 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: Like I will literally give you my whistle in this 415 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: fake ass shit. 416 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: They just this tight ass zebra suit that they just 417 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: gave me that doesn't fit me. 418 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't. 419 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: I don't ref, but like that's what a lot of 420 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: people are, just like, you know, volunteers in these you know, 421 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: second second grade you know, rec leagues and they're getting 422 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was horrible. It was a 423 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: horrible experience. I never did it again. You feel me 424 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: so like, and I can't imagine what's going on in 425 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 4: high school when it actually matters. 426 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: You know, you got to pay these guys for that too. 427 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 4: It's not just them reffing, it's them dealing with everything 428 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: outside of it. The worst part of refing is not 429 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: the reffing, it's the it's everybody else. 430 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: So that surrounds the game. 431 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: Well, and Tyler Tyler's apps well, because the job of 432 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 2: reffing actually is hard enough without all the ship outside 433 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: of it, you know what I mean. But and you 434 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: know if you only watch sports from seeing it in 435 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: slow motion on a fucking nice TV, you know, like 436 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: go go to a go to a basketball game in person. 437 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: Just like imagine trying to make every single call, bro, 438 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: It's just not easy. But to Tyler's point, in California, 439 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: they are trying to increase the pay for officials and 440 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: a lot of the school districts because the school districts 441 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: and the ones that have to pay for it are 442 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: bitching about the cost going up. And so we we 443 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: actually tweeted on the five six. Do you think it's 444 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: hard to pay more money? Imagine how hard it's gonna 445 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: be to have games without. 446 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: Referee fel me. Have you ever refed the game? No? Never? Okay, 447 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: never want to either. Horrible experience, bro. 448 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: When I was when I was a teenager, I mean 449 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: as a teenager who likes sports, it was it was 450 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: a It was a good way to you know, you 451 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: go on Saturday, you rep flag football games. You make 452 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: I made decent. You know, you make a couple hundred 453 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: dollars in a day without really having to have a 454 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: boss or you know, whatever else you're outside. I liked it, 455 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: but I didn't do it for very long. It's stressful. 456 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: I was in Alabama, you know, I did that one 457 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: game on some accidental volunteer. 458 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: I will. I said, I will never do it again. 459 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: Those parents were horrible, bro. I'm like, oh, they traveled. 460 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: Everybody's traveling their second grade. 461 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah they're in second grade. You want me to sit 462 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: here and call every travel the game? 463 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: Would say, I still be reffing the game right now. 464 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 3: I'd be thirty nine right now. 465 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: The referees for Vincent and my basketball league with you know, 466 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: they remind the kids if they're running with the ball, 467 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: they say, remember, dribble, dribble, dribble, And then if they 468 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: dribble with two hands, they remind them to do it 469 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: with one hand. You know what I mean. That's the 470 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: that's what the referee do. You're teaching the game as 471 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: much as you are officiating it, you know what I mean? 472 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 6: Crazy? 473 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Joe Burrow. Is Joe Burrow him? 474 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: Is this dude really? Like I think we all felt like, 475 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: here's Baker Mayfield two point zero is another quote unquote 476 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: cool white dude. This is the first time in my 477 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: remembering that a dude's old tweet surfacing have made me 478 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: like them more. 479 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: Right, He's a he's an anti capitalist bronze stand and 480 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: that's like my type of people right there. 481 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? 482 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: That was a tweet at fucking fifteen sixteen? He was 483 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 5: that guy. 484 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: You feel me questioning? I mean, And then is he 485 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: from Cleveland? 486 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: Where's he from? 487 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 5: He's from Ohio? 488 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: From Ohio for Ohio? You know what I'm saying? 489 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: Like, oh, like questioning like a capitalist society like that's 490 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: he's he's abnor hormal gee. 491 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: That was the tweet that I was like, because at 492 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: first I was like. 493 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: You know, hey, I mean he looks cool, but you know, 494 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: how's he voting? You know, being where he's from we played, 495 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: I was. 496 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I said in the group chat, like we're 497 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: a fir CO voting right. 498 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: I want to like him, but you know we probably 499 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: ain't on my side and real life, you feel me. 500 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: But then I saw the anti I'm like, okay, you 501 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: might that hit me right where it needed to. 502 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: And then and then I'm looking at the Baker Mayfield 503 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 4: like everybody was all like excited about Mayfield and him 504 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 4: being able to hold the beat. I mean, when you 505 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 4: really look at those videos in retrospect, they. 506 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: Were horrible, Like they were horrible. 507 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Horrible current respect, they were horrible. When they first dropped, 508 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is this man? 509 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: Like everybody was like he right there. 510 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 4: Everybody was so excited like Baker Mayfield, Like I was like, no, 511 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 4: and now look it's even worse now, Gee, it's so yeah, 512 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: good for Joe. I'm glad he's who we hoped he was, 513 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: because he definitely wasn't who I thought he was. 514 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: I didn't know he was a bron said until Tyler 515 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: told me that, and then suddenly some shit made sense 516 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: because you said he was out here like talking shit 517 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: on Steph Curry's stuff when he was in high school, 518 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: right pull on bronstand. 519 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: During his Heisman and championship season in twenty nineteen. He 520 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: still had a pin tweet from the twenty sixteen finals 521 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: clown and Steph from that moment when Bron pushing shit 522 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: and was talking shit to him, right Like, You're the 523 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: biggest star in college football and your pin tweet is 524 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: clowning Steph and standing out for Bron. 525 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: I was like, this is my type of dude. When 526 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 5: I first saw that, bro, you. 527 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 4: Really standing on that tweet when like you know, you 528 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: got all those odes a you that point, you know 529 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: you meant that you feel me. 530 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: This is the first thing I want people to know about, right. 531 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: I don't want them to know my agent's number for 532 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: my nil deal. I want them to know it's fuck 533 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: Steph Team Brone Tints. 534 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: And that picture he took when Bron came back to Cleveland, 535 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: when you could tell he's wearing the jersey he had 536 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: as a kid during Cleveland's first during Bron's first run, 537 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: that shit tightest fun you can see this white rude 538 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: in Cleveland who welcome bron back with open arms. 539 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 5: You you might be a different type of dude. 540 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Good for Joe, go Joe Burrow. 541 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Brian Flores and the NFL still being 542 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: racis as fuck Brian Flores. You know, these Bill Belichick 543 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: texts that were hilariously stupid got a lot of the 544 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: attention yesterday, understandably, But the actual story is that Brian Flores, 545 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: who was one of the top assistants in the league, 546 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: was interviewed by the Giants, the Broncos, and the Dolphins, 547 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: and Brian Flores, who is a who's black, specifically, is 548 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: suing for racial discrimination, saying that the interviews were shams. 549 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: He said he was interviewed. The reason the Belichick text 550 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: is significant is he was interviewed by the Giants after 551 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: they had already made their head coaching decision, and so 552 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: the reason that they're interviewed is in the NFL they 553 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: have the ruining rule with states that if you haven't 554 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: open head coaching or I believe GM position, you have 555 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: to interview at least one black candidate. 556 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: I think two and one in person. 557 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: Something like that, Okay, yeah, yeah, but that but that's 558 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: the they were. 559 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: Abusing it as the point they were abusing, you know 560 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, the Rooney rule. 561 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: And it's pretty it's a pretty open and shut case. 562 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: So the NFL put out a bullshit statement saying that, 563 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: you know, we've investigated the claims without merit, like ten 564 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: seconds after the fucking lawsuit was filed or something. But 565 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: I don't really know any other way to do that, 566 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: to put it. And I have so much respect for 567 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: Brian Flores, very similar to the respect ad for Colin Kaepernick, 568 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: because he's you're not gonna coach in the NFL after this, 569 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: and that was always his dream obviously, right. But what 570 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: I love that he said was they asked him about 571 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: it and he said, it's for my kids. Is at 572 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: some point you have to put yourself aside. He says, 573 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: I have two sons who are eight and seven. I 574 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: have a five year old daughter, and when I look 575 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: at them, I don't want them to go through some 576 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: of the things I've had to go through. He said 577 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: that he was humiliated by going through what he felt 578 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: like was sham interview and it's just a it's an 579 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: insult to him as a person, to where he said, 580 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: fuck the career, Fuck the career. I spent my whole 581 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: life building this is something that's worth making a statement over. 582 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: So how did that make you feel? 583 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 3: Tyler? 584 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: It's, you know, hats off to Flores. You know, he's 585 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: standing on some real, you know, solid shit, you know, 586 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: sacrificing his career in the NFL, as as we all mentioned, 587 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: as we all know, as he knows. 588 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 5: But it's it's it's it's just. 589 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: Another fucking you know, black eye on the NFL that 590 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: it's not gonna impact anything. And I don't I'm not 591 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: saying this in a in a sense to trivialize what 592 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: what Florida's doing. Like I said, it's a monumental sacrifice 593 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: he's making. But how many times is shit like this 594 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: going to get exposed and then nothing happens? 595 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 596 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: And nothing is gonna happen as long as you've got 597 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: these fucking sixty five year old, seventy year old rich 598 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: white people in power all the time who aren't changing shit, 599 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Who are who are in this? 600 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 3: You know? 601 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: But good old boy network where they are always going 602 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: to look out for each other's best interest. 603 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 5: And that's the reason Flores won't ever get a job again. 604 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: Right. 605 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: It won't be because you know, the Giants aren't going 606 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: to hire him, the Dophins aren't going to hire It's 607 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: because no one in the league will hire him because 608 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: of that you know, good old boy, you know buddy 609 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: system that they have there with the owners. And like 610 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I said, it's just another blackout on the NFL. And 611 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: it feels like this isn't going to you know, impede 612 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: the NFL's profits or anything at all. The super Bowl 613 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: is probably gonna be the fucking highest rated super Bowl ever, 614 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: like it seems to be every year or some. 615 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 5: Shit after that. 616 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: So, like I said, I commend Flora so much for 617 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: what he's doing, and it's it's it's it's just a 618 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: feeling of, you know, I'm not surprised at the events 619 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: that are being you know, on display here. I am, 620 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, I commend Flora's for what he's doing. And 621 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: then there's a part of me that's just just desperate 622 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: and just like, Okay, nothing is gonna happen here, nothing 623 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: is going to change here. So we're losing a guy 624 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: who was a really good young coach who's who's who's 625 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, discarding his career to do what's right and 626 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: when what's gonna come of it? 627 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: Though? You know what I mean? 628 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: And like I said, it's not on floor as it's 629 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: on the fact that the NFL is just not going 630 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: to change. 631 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: What incentive do these owners have? Like who does a 632 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: rich white billionaire, male billionaire. 633 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: Have to answer to God? 634 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: Maybe he maybe can cut a deal with God with 635 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: that much money, You feel me like it's I just 636 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: think there's just no incentive for them to change, you 637 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like they. 638 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: Need a Robert Sarver. 639 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: They needed least somebody to say these niggas need a nigga. 640 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: They don't even have that, you know. I mean, that's 641 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: the best you could hope. 642 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: For in the NFL, you know what I mean. But 643 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: there will be. 644 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: No change, and he'll I mean, you know, he'll get 645 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: a bag Flories will get a bag probably, But that's 646 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: not what he was That's not what he was hoping 647 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: for as a kid. 648 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: He wanted to be a NFL coach. He's you know, 649 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: jeopard I mean, I'm jeopardizing. 650 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: He's throwing away his dream in order to do this, 651 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: and there will be no real change, just like with 652 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: there was no real change, you. 653 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. It's just somebody sacrificing himself, you know, 654 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: for what is right. 655 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: And I respect that the conversation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but 656 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: that's all. 657 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: This is the conversation. 658 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: But what is the real incentive for them NF, these 659 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 4: these these owners to change because they're the they're the 660 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: decision makers in the end, and there and and and 661 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: and there's nobody that's going to control them or they 662 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: answer to. 663 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 664 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: It's like, the the disrespect to black coaches in the 665 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: NFL is on a and you know, this is a 666 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: problem in all pro sports leagues obviously, but the NFL, 667 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: I feel like it's especially glaring. And the disrespect to 668 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: successful current black coaches is also on a totally different level. 669 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, you know, after the first wave of firings, 670 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: this year was the last black head coach left in 671 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: the NFL. Mike Tomlin, I believe this year set the 672 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: record in the NFL for the most consecutive seasons with 673 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: a winning record. But was asked this year about taking 674 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: the USC job and and was, I don't know if 675 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: you saw the press conference. He was furious. He was 676 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: just like, you know how tiring it is to be 677 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: asked about this year after year after year. If I'm 678 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: taking a college coach to taking a college job, why 679 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: would I do that? Like I'm sitting at the top 680 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: of the fucking mountain and I'm a great coach, and 681 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: you're still asking about taking the fucking USC job, you know, Like, 682 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: I think it is, uh that aspect of it is 683 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: not up to the control of the owners. That's up 684 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: to the media, that's up to football fans, right, that 685 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: that could be changed. But I mean John's right is 686 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: how do you exert power on the people that our 687 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: whole society was constructed to keep in power safe from anyone, 688 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, to put them in power and keep 689 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: them insulated from people trying to change anything. I don't 690 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: have an answer that. 691 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: Flores had what he had, He had the Dolphins, that 692 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: the Dolphins had their second consecutive winning season, and I 693 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: don't know how long under Flores. 694 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: I have black friends who are Dolphins fans who are 695 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: like wanted to like name their kids after this dude, bro, right, 696 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: I mean you know what I mean? 697 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: He was given he. 698 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: Was offered one hundred thousand dollars for every loss because 699 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: they were trying to get, you know. 700 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: A high draft pick. And he, you know, he's stood 701 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: on his morals. 702 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 4: He wanted them to like recte recruit this, help recruit this, 703 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 4: like tamper and recruit this QB. And he was like, 704 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Nah, left left the meeting 705 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: at the yacht. And you know what I'm saying that 706 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: they had set up at the yacht for him to 707 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: break rules, you feel me? And he was like, no, 708 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: I'm not taking part in that. He was a solid 709 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: dude and that's what got him. 710 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: Out of the guy. If this ship got exposed to 711 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: you said, what he knows who he knows? Whose name 712 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: is going to be in the headline if the ship 713 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: got exposed to tampering. 714 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: It for so but they but they but then because 715 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 4: of that, they sow they soured his name, you know, 716 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: they they threw salt on his ship, you know what 717 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 4: I'm saying, making it seem like he was wasn't a 718 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: team player, or he wasn't a company guy. 719 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: You feel me? 720 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 4: And you know, turn him into that, you know that 721 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: old trope of the angry black man, you feel me. 722 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: I mean, so like the reading reading about this like 723 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: was was saddening because like he was put in a 724 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: situation where he couldn't win, and even with the and 725 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: and he still had had winning seasons and even and 726 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: when he would go and be like, you know, when 727 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: he went went to the interviews, you know, he was 728 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 4: still just like a interview, you know what I mean. 729 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 4: So it's I don't know, it's it's it was fucked up. 730 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: When I was I was like, damn, like this is 731 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. It was disheartening, like Tyler was saying, 732 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 4: just like and and nothing will be done, nothing will 733 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: truly no no true, no change will truly happen for 734 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: there not to be another floor as in the future. 735 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the story in a nutshell is a 736 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: black coach got fired for being an overachiever and then 737 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: isn't getting a fair shake to interview for another head 738 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: coach position, right, Like like that's summing it up in 739 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: one sentence here, And it's just it's it's a fucking 740 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: terrible reality that black coaches have to face. 741 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: In the in the NFL. 742 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: And and like I said, I don't know what can 743 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: be done about the Rooney rule has been in place 744 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: for damn near like thirty years or something, and I 745 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: don't know if you can say that that's had any 746 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: major impact. I just don't know, you know what will 747 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: be done here, but I do know that the NFL 748 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: is going to be proceeding with business as usual and 749 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: making ridiculous profits hand over fits as normal. 750 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: The last note I want to put in this is 751 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: there's nothing you can say about I don't want to 752 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: accept that there's nothing we could say about the billionaires, right, 753 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: but there have been billionaires who've been gotten the fuck 754 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: out of there. The problem is, I think you both 755 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: alluded to, is this is all the owners. This is 756 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: not Donald Sterling. Yeah, it is all the owners. 757 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: If Flores has some substantial evidence about that hundred thousand 758 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: dollars deal. 759 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 5: Florida's ross is out of there. 760 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: Bro for sure, he's losing a team, especially with all 761 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: that betting and shit what I mean, But so what, I. 762 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: Don't want to give up on, you know, the idea 763 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: of change or of improving things, even though I don't 764 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: see a way forward. I do just want to point 765 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 2: out this is a larger cultural problem with the sport 766 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 2: of football in this country. I cover high school football 767 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: in southern California. We have a league here called the 768 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: Trinity League. Modern Days in it. Saint John Bosco is 769 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: in it. About half of the national champions of the 770 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: last decade come out of the Trinity League. It's big 771 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: money private schools. And the La Times did a feature 772 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: this year there has never been a head black coach 773 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: in the Trinity League and there isn't one now, and 774 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: there's not anyone on the horizon who would be the prospects. 775 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: You have a white head coach who's in charge, who's 776 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: the CEO, and you have a lot of Black, Polynesian, 777 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: Hispanic assistant coaches who help bring kids in, who are 778 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: a lot of them great coaches, exces and those coaches. 779 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: But I don't think, and I'm friends with a lot 780 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 2: of those guys, a lot of them feel like they 781 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: would be taken seriously in a head coaching interview. So 782 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: can we change the culture of an NFL billionaire? Probably not. 783 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: Can we change the culture of a high school there's 784 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: fifteen miles away from us. I tweet about it. I 785 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: don't know if that does anything. The La Times report, 786 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 2: I know, pissed a lot of people off. Pissed a 787 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: lot of the right people off. But you know, it 788 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: is something that is The NFL is America's league, is 789 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: an American fucking problem. So for what that's worth, I 790 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: don't know. But it's not just these thirty billionaires are 791 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: the worst. You know, this is a whole top to 792 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: bottom shit in our society. 793 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: I can say on a motherfucking micro level. In Richmond, 794 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: the black high schools have black coaches because black parents 795 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: push for that, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 796 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, maybe this is something that 797 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: that can we can take a grassroots approach and kind 798 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: of you know, work the way up of emphasizing the 799 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: value and the importance of black coaches from you know, 800 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: the lower levels on up. But well, who knows, man, 801 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm just at a loss. 802 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: For solutions here. 803 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: Bro imagine being Brian Floor is getting that text from Belichick, 804 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, after all the things you've 805 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 4: already endured, you know, with your past situation where you've. 806 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: Over it first, you're getting a congratulations right right, and 807 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: you and you're going wow, right right and and. 808 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: But you know, but like the situation with the Dolphins 809 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 4: where you were given the incentive to lose. You know, 810 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 4: you still won and we're still fired, and we're you know, 811 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 4: they threw s all your name. Then you then you 812 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: you think you have a real chance of getting this 813 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 4: job in New York, a place that has never had 814 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: a black coach before, you know what I mean, get 815 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 4: a congratulations from Belichick thinking it's you know, thinking it's 816 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 4: your what the ball? You feel what I'm saying, And 817 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 4: you haven't even interviewed yet, and then you have to 818 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: go and interview knowing you didn't get the job. They 819 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 4: already made the decision and they're just you're just a 820 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: prop interview because of the Rooney rule. 821 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean he was pushed. 822 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 4: I mean he was made to make this decision, you 823 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like with all but he's dealt 824 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 4: with all of that shit prior. Imagine all the things 825 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 4: that we've dealt with prior to get to this point where, like, 826 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 4: you know, now, I have to like you know, ruin 827 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 4: my career to even have a chance of changing something 828 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 4: now because this is just I can't ignore this at 829 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: this point. 830 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: He tried to ignore it. He tried you know what 831 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 832 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 4: It's like he was pushed to do this, and I 833 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 4: think that's so sad as somebody who was who would 834 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 4: realize the dream and has to you know, throw that 835 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 4: away at this point because he was pushed to it's 836 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: it's it's fucked up, like and I said, he'll get 837 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 4: a bag, but like, you know, that money, thank God 838 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 4: for that. 839 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: He said, that's not what he grew up. That's not 840 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 2: what he grew up. And as he's referring to, that's 841 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: not what he wants his kids to grow up dreaming, 842 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, he wants his kids to grow up thinking 843 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: of a better world. 844 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 3: Right. 845 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: I think Tyler hit on something at the grassroots level 846 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: that you know, at least if you talk about in 847 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: southern California, you're starting to see for the first time 848 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: in a day decade, a movement away from these big 849 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: money private schools to kids going back to public schools 850 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: where the representation for black people, for Hispanic people, among 851 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 2: head coaches is much better than it is at private schools, 852 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: you know, and so that is a big part of it. 853 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: I think that, to me is what's so interesting about 854 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: Dean and Jackson State is that, hey, man, we don't 855 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 2: have to just keep playing by the same fucking rules. 856 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: We could you know, they're your kids. You could literally 857 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: just decide that they're going to go to a different college, 858 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, and so hopefully that does have You know, 859 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: it does feel like something's happening. It does feel like 860 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: things are different than they were ten years ago, even 861 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: if the lawsuit from Brian Flores shows that at the 862 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: highest level is not that different yet, you know. 863 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: Do you think with things like was the number one 864 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: cornerback in the in the nation going to Jackson State? Like, 865 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 4: are they not going to try to change the rules? 866 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 4: Are they not going to try to fix change something 867 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: so that that doesn't happen anymore? 868 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 869 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 4: Like I even feel like with even with those wins, 870 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: it comes with consequences with people trying to fight back 871 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 4: against that stuff. 872 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. 873 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 2: I think, first of all, one thing that I will 874 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: say that I don't like is I don't like people 875 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: beating up on kids who don't choose to go to 876 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: HBCUs because I've seen that on social media with some 877 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: of the elite kids. It is a big sacrifice for 878 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 2: sure to not go to an SEC or PAC twelve 879 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: or Big ten school, to go to an HBCU just 880 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: in terms of the amount of money that's around you. 881 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a great decision for the you know, 882 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: we've had a couple poly kids sign with Morgan State 883 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: and other HBCUs this year. I think it's a great 884 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: decision when it makes sense, right, But that system's already 885 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: to answer your question, John, in my opinion, the system's 886 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: already in place because it's just the money and the 887 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: NIL stuff is going to continue along. But the NIL 888 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: thing also it frees up some space for more creativity. 889 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: Grambling State, which we also had a poly kids sign 890 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: with this year, they're the first ones to take NIL 891 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: and go name image likeness. Oh, we get it. This 892 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: is just licensing. This is just IP licensing. And so 893 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: the college is going to have an NIL deal for 894 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: each of its athletes where they're paying the kid to 895 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: license their NIL. So you come in, you get eighty 896 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. You're under contract, you're not an employee. The 897 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: entire NCAA is built around circumventing employee law in the 898 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: United States of America, so they don't have to give you, 899 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: you know, health insurance and workers company all this shit. 900 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: But you will still get paid and the school will 901 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: license your name, image and likeness, you know. So I 902 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: think that it's going to be easier to be creative 903 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: in the way that Grambling State or Jackson State is 904 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: than it would be for UCLA to be creative in 905 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: that same way, just because it's it's a it's a 906 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: smaller enterprise. 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It's so many nineteen year old kids 955 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 2: on my timeline, Like did you think that you were 956 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 2: second in line here to be the father from? 957 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: Like? 958 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 3: What do I care? 959 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: What? Greek gods and goddesses are doing bro. 960 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna marry dominiqu Dawes back in 961 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 4: like ninety six, ninety five. 962 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 3: I thought she was mine. 963 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 4: When I saw that light skined, curly hair dool she 964 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 4: was dating, I was like, what God told me we 965 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 4: were supposed to be together. 966 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 3: Yikes, thought she was gonna be mind. 967 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: Congratulations to Rihanna and Asaf Rocky, but Harito Morales tweeted, 968 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: worst part is Rocky even meet it up like that. 969 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: She really likes him for who he is. I'm sick. 970 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: She love bell. 971 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 3: Twitter. 972 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: Man is Twitter is hell, and it's sometimes it's the 973 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: best type of hell, like with a fucking outrageous tweet 974 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: like that. 975 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 3: I love a good meet it up. 976 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: I have no comment on that tweet. It's just the 977 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: meeting of the phrase. 978 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: It's a phrase. I'm definitely using that in my private time. 979 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 3: I'll meet it up. I'll here meet it up. 980 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 4: You know what time it is, Yeah, meet it up Rocky, 981 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 4: not meat it up, but you know for Rocky too, 982 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 4: I've not. I saw a lot of congratulations for Rocky two. 983 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 4: I was I was like, Wow, you didn't blow it? 984 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 5: You did you? 985 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 4: I thought he would have blown it by now, you 986 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like, Rocky doesn't seem like the 987 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 4: most the smartest guy. 988 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: He seemed like you would blow something like this, And 989 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you smart when you need to be smart. 990 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: That's a times sometimes you need a man that does 991 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: not overthink things, you know what I mean? 992 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: She said, some Wow, I'm like, come on gee, but yeah, 993 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 4: you know he was smart when he needed to be smart. 994 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 3: Good for him. Man. 995 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: There there was a tweet that some some uh chick 996 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: foot out there. She said, we'll talk about how when 997 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: she worked at a studio and she met him. Did 998 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: y'all read that way? Mm hmm, yeah, she said, uh. 999 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: She said, she worked at a studio. She's a receptionist 1000 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: at a studio, she said, as Rocky walked in and 1001 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: she asked him, could you please sign in? 1002 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 5: And he said asap, and she said yes. 1003 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: Immediately, if you don't mind, And she said, only did 1004 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: was chuckle to himself and sign in. She's like, that's 1005 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: how I know he's going to be a great father. 1006 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: He was very kind and patient with me. So I 1007 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: like his stories like that about celebrities of not being dickheads, 1008 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: you know, So. 1009 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 2: That's a good I like that story. Okay, let's turn 1010 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: to sad news. Uh, it's Groundhog Day. As we're recording this, 1011 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: John's doing his fucking go ahead, go ahead, rip to 1012 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 2: Milltown Mellie, the New Jersey groundhog who predicts whether it's 1013 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 2: going to be winter or spring, died suddenly on February first, 1014 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 2: the day before Groundhog's Day. According to the official Milltown 1015 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: Mel Facebook page, we wranglers are sad to report that 1016 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: Milltown Mel recently crossed over the Rainbow Bridge. Difficult stuff, 1017 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: difficult stuff, but he lived a long life. The average 1018 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 2: lifespan of a groundhog is three years. 1019 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 5: So that's it. 1020 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 3: God damn, how long did he live? I think he 1021 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: was thin high. 1022 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: This is going to be his I think this is 1023 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: going to be his fifth, fifth. 1024 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: Groundhog Day, you know, at the peak long age of 1025 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: five years old. 1026 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: I totally made that ship up. They just said he 1027 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: had a long life. I don't know what's four or five? 1028 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 5: Ground can live like ten years. What's that ship up? 1029 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important to know, honestly, but al r, I 1030 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: p meiltown Millie. You know, we appreciate your service, and you. 1031 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: Know days went for dying before he went to work. 1032 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: That's how I would want to go, Like, don't let 1033 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: me die a day after my work, Like let me 1034 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: die the morning before I have to go to work. 1035 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 5: If I'm going to die, he. 1036 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 1: Clocked out, literally and figuratively, like, no work, I'm done. 1037 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 3: Bro across the was it the rainbow bridge? I like that, 1038 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 3: the rainbow bridge. 1039 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 2: That's only for for groundhogs. Everyone else crosses over a 1040 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: different kind of bridge. Did you ever think about that 1041 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 2: when you were a kid, John, I knew you grew 1042 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: up very religious. Do you ever think about like frog heaven? 1043 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like what about like what 1044 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: happens to all the other living creatures? Like is there 1045 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 2: a mosquito heaven? 1046 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 3: I think? I think. 1047 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 4: I think I always questioned heaven, and I always thought 1048 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 4: there was multiple ways to get there, Like I thought. 1049 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 4: I remember looking up that like most people are Muslim, 1050 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like if you're religious, you know, 1051 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 4: most most religous people are Muslim, And. 1052 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way that only us are going. 1053 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1054 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 4: Like my my my favorite dog ever was like JJ, 1055 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, my grandmother's dog. 1056 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 3: And I always wondered, like they am I going to 1057 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: see her in heaven. 1058 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 4: So I thought about some animals, but not like frogs 1059 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 4: that not. 1060 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 2: Them in particular, like the celery stocks haven't afterlife, you 1061 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like like what level of conscious 1062 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: development allows. 1063 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 3: You to You sound real atheist right now, though you 1064 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 3: sound like you. 1065 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: Sound like I honestly did not like and I am. 1066 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 2: But but on mocking well, I used to just sit. 1067 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: My grandpa was super Catholic, right, but we used to 1068 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 2: sit and have real conversations. And that was always like, 1069 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: the one thing that would always make him laugh is 1070 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 2: I'd always be like, you're real lucky that you, of 1071 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 2: the billions of human beings who've lived, you happen to 1072 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: have been born in the right religion at the right time, 1073 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 2: in the right country. If you were born in the 1074 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: first eighty percent of the history of humanity, the Catholic 1075 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: Church didn't even exists. That would always get him cracking up, 1076 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: you know, And he'd be like, yep, I figured it. 1077 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: Gengkhis Khan didn't have it figured out. But I just 1078 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 2: so happened to have been born in a slum in 1079 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: New Jersey with other Italian people who know the truth. 1080 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay, let's talk about the fucking fight of 1081 00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 2: the century. 1082 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 3: Uh is Christ? 1083 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: This is really this has really been all over the place. 1084 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: That's fucking fun. But this video was truly astounding of 1085 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 2: a brawl breaking out at a Golden Corral because they 1086 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 2: ran out of steaks too early in the buffet day. 1087 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 2: I did not know the Golden Corral steaks went off 1088 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 2: like that. We're a hometown buffet family in Long Beach, California. 1089 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 2: I must be missing out on golden craw. I did 1090 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: not know that the steaks were worth throwing baby seats 1091 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 2: across a restaurant at someone. 1092 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 3: Nothing is worth that, Let's start there worth. 1093 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: I will say Golden Corral has some good trash steak 1094 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like, I'm not at 1095 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: all saying it's some fucking steakhouse. You know, eighty dollars 1096 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: fucking you know, three ounce fl ami on quality with 1097 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,479 Speaker 1: that little big ass chunk of cow that they carve 1098 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: up in front of you that should be hidden of 1099 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you're hungry enough and 1100 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: or high enough, you know what I'm saying. The whole 1101 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: appeal of it is you can have as much of 1102 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: it as you want. You know what I'm saying. It's 1103 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: not like I said, it's not top flight steak. The 1104 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: whole appeal is you can have as much of this 1105 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: grade Q steak as you want and for that. 1106 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 5: To not be on the table anymore. 1107 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: I can understand Golden Ground pates being upset because that's 1108 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: what you're there for, the helping's not the actual food. 1109 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: You feel me so, But I do not understand them 1110 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: while I'm out this much. I can understand being mildly disappointed, 1111 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: not fucking yeah. 1112 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 4: It's interesting how it turned into a race war though, 1113 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 4: like not knowing, like why did There was like two 1114 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 4: white people in there and all of them they were 1115 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 4: getting jumped by. 1116 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 3: People and it you know, TD Jake suits. I wonder 1117 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 3: where that happened. 1118 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: I wonder if there was a nigga thrown somewhere, Like 1119 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 4: what's the steak we're saying, nigga getting jumped over? 1120 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: You feel me like that's my steak, nigga? You know? 1121 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 3: How did that turn into a race war? But anyway, Yeah. 1122 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 4: But also I want to say that dog like Golden 1123 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 4: Corral in these places we like to clown and on 1124 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: that shit is good. 1125 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 3: It's a great Q steak whatever, but it's still a 1126 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 3: good great Q. 1127 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 4: Steak is still good steak, you know what I mean. 1128 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 4: I think we need to talk more about that. We 1129 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 4: clown these places like we're better than them. We were 1130 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 4: raised on Shoney's and go to Corral, the Ryan's. There's 1131 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 4: nothing wrong. 1132 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 2: With John hungry Man Frozer. 1133 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 3: You feel me and we too good for cheesecake. When 1134 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 3: did we become these people? Well, we can't go to 1135 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 3: cheesecake factory. Too many choices. Come on, man, I'm really 1136 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 3: that really kind of gets under my skin. With the 1137 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 3: cheesecake factory thing. I think that is a great establishment. 1138 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 3: You brought that up a number of times. I stand 1139 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 3: on that bus. 1140 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Golden Kraw video did lead to a really 1141 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 2: great analogy off between two comedian friends of the podcast. 1142 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 2: Roywood Junior said, as a former Golden k employee, trust 1143 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 2: me that steak is good. Not sure if it's two 1144 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,919 Speaker 2: years probation, aggravated assault with the kids high shair good. 1145 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: He said, Golden Corral is a competitive mid major no 1146 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 2: one respects because they're in a weak conference with Ryan's, 1147 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: Old Country Buffet and Cracker Barrel. 1148 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 3: All good places. 1149 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 2: But then keV on stage, we all love. Kevi on 1150 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 2: stage said, Golden Corral is waffle house that went to 1151 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 2: community college. 1152 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 5: That's perfect. That's exactly what it is too. 1153 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 2: All right, that's a good note to end on. Thank 1154 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: you so much everyone for supporting the podcast over the 1155 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 2: last however many years. 1156 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 3: We really appreciate you. 1157 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 2: Keep leaving, keep telling your friends, keep sharing the ship, 1158 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 2: keep leaving five stars and reviews and everything. We really 1159 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 2: appreciate you, guys, and we'll see you on Monday. 1160 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 3: Bye bye.