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Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's an experienced thing. So

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Speaker 2: bit and you know, build, build back better for next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so look, we wish we were covering the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl uh in Las Vegas in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: We had a great time there last year. I think

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Speaker 2: To see who can wrangle up.

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Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be fun. So we're gonna go out

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Speaker 1: there anyways. I know it's not what we both wanted

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Speaker 1: was a great season. It was a fun ride. It

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Speaker 1: was fun doing this podcast the whole season long, both

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Speaker 1: on Thursdays and after the games. I appreciate you. You've

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Speaker 1: been a great, great, great producer, great football knowledge, setting

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Speaker 1: this whole thing up. And we'll just continue rolling, you know,

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Speaker 1: during we got Draft and super Bowl and combine and

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Speaker 1: we'll hit you guys all up for all that big stuff.

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Speaker 1: This one hurts a little bit, take a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get back to it.

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Speaker 2: The show goes on, all right,