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Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 3: And welcome to the drive by in Dale Lollie. He

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson and Matt since we met yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I actually went and did a little research on FLA football.

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Speaker 1: Oh did you really what.

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Speaker 3: The rules are going to be for the X.

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Speaker 1: I heard a little bit in the podcast, and I

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Speaker 1: know the field is tighter.

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Speaker 3: Field is small, Yeah, seventy five yards long. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be six men's team, well, six women's

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Speaker 3: teams in the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Okay, six different countries, or six US teams six different countries. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's only one US team.

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Speaker 3: Yah, Okay, ten players per team.

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Speaker 1: They're playing both ways.

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Speaker 3: Five players play at one time, so you don't have.

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Speaker 1: To play books. I guess not right.

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Speaker 3: You can't designate offensive or defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so everyone's eligible.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's eligible. The defense is allowed to blitz one guy,

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Speaker 3: but he has to start seven yards off the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage every down.

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Speaker 1: He can come.

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Speaker 3: He can come every down, but he's as soon as

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Speaker 3: the ball is snapped, he's but he's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Seven yards yeah yeah, I mean you see him coming.

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Speaker 3: And quarterbacks and this could effect who actually plays this thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: are not allowed to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I found that out too. They can't leave the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They have to be.

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Speaker 3: Can't cross the line of scrimmage with the balls and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So while Lamar Jackson would be great in terms

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Speaker 3: wouldn't look for necessarily look for Lamar Jackson as your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You might want more Joe Burrow then you want Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean my next question, what I don't

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Speaker 1: You can't block, You're not allowed.

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Speaker 3: You're not allowed to impede the blitzer.

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Speaker 1: I still want Lamar then over Burrow.

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Speaker 3: But at what point to his natural instincts take over

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Speaker 1: Maybe and just thinking dunk down the field like crazy.

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Speaker 3: But I got let's say I got DK metcalf on

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Speaker 3: What's seven yards behind the line of scrimmage when I

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Speaker 3: take the snap. That guy's gotta he's got to cover

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Speaker 1: My impression too, of who that Blitzer is isn't t

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a bunch of defensive bout It's it's

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Speaker 3: really it's going to be a five on five passing drill.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they got to be a center, okay, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: But they gotta be able to run a good blitzing

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Speaker 3: you're unless you're just not going to blitz, right, because

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Speaker 1: And he'll just sit there and pack the ball forever

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Speaker 3: I want I want accuracy and I want quick release.

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Speaker 1: Look that far right, right right, because my thoughts are, I.

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Speaker 1: My thoughts are, if I burrow it, I'm I'm nerding out.

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Speaker 1: If I go quarterback, I knew you would do that.

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Speaker 3: Know, but if he's running away from them.

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Speaker 1: If I if I'm a corner and this poor soul

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Speaker 3: Well, I might have. I'm just running outside fades all

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Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what, it's a dream team.

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Speaker 3: You're telling me Chase isn't gonna beat the guy off

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Speaker 1: I guess you have to play the run too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can still pitch it to Jamar get

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Speaker 3: The game's all about space in it, and I think.

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Speaker 1: The field's actually a lot narrow.

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Speaker 3: I've already run ten yards. I'm fast than the guy

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Speaker 3: but you're not going to get a bunch of eight

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Speaker 3: because you can't. You still have to respect it. Again,

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Speaker 1: You know, I would consider having a free safety.

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Speaker 3: But then you don't have your pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: See, I wonder what's even a good gain? Like is

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if there's only four downs, then there's

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know how you do it against

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Speaker 1: Oh that's the thing. I mean. I've been thinking about

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Speaker 1: USA already has really good flag football players, and I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do get you do get the first down

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Speaker 3: when you cross midfield. You get four downs to go

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Speaker 1: Plays you get a score and eight players So thinking

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Speaker 3: Don't even know that you're it's going to take eight

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Speaker 3: plays for if you put professional football players on.

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Speaker 1: A quarterback, that's insanely accurate, but all of them are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it could be Rudolph. I mean, it could

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Speaker 3: The ball, even against guys who play flag football year round,

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Speaker 3: right right, It's just it's the quarterback is the difference

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw that back pile on ball every time,

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I'd pick five defensive back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick.

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Speaker 1: The drill I did is I would build a four cones.

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Speaker 3: What's a two hundred and fifty pound guy coming right

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think you're even allowed to stiff arm.

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Speaker 1: Well. I'm not saying it's fun, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: That'd be terrifying. Yeah, I mean even Jerome running at

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunters will be on that team.

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Speaker 3: Oh he played both ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect for it, one of my first picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lelly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: This as The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 3: he is the Matt Williamson and Matt I saw a

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Speaker 3: thing today on ESPN that the Bills are favored. They're

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Speaker 1: Wow. That always blows me away when somebody comes out

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Speaker 1: with that, Like, they do have a pretty easy schedule,

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Speaker 1: they have a very easy division. You and I several

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Speaker 1: times have mentioned that if I'm putting a chip down

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Speaker 1: I think I would take the Bills. I think you

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Speaker 1: sets up. Good offseason, superstar quarterback, recent success, but favored

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen seventy eight, twenty three teams have been favored

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Speaker 1: That shocks me too.

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Speaker 3: It's a little more than what I would have thought, right,

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Speaker 3: And I'm.

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Speaker 1: Making sure the Bill's the best team in the league.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they are right, right.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight teams have been underdogs in every one of

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Speaker 1: That might not shock me as much.

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Speaker 3: There aren't any this year. Okay, but the Giants, Browns,

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Speaker 3: and Saints are favored in just one game each this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The Giants are favored by one and a half at.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, Okay, they play each other.

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Speaker 3: The Browns are favored by one and a half at

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Speaker 1: And a half. Like a Saints aren't even favored when

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Speaker 1: Carolina comes to town. No, right, I was thinking easy

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Speaker 1: last play schedules as go. Well, the Saints don't.

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Speaker 3: So it made me wonder where the Steelers are at here.

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Speaker 3: So I've looked this up here on DraftKings and the

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Speaker 1: They must play the Ravens, Chiefs, and Texans. And are

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Speaker 1: they all in Buffalo? They must be at home?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So these the Steelers favored in Week

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Speaker 3: one against the Seahawks. Yeah, Seahawks by one and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, They're played the Jets in Week one. They're

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Speaker 1: In New York. In New York, Okay, that adds up

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Speaker 3: They are then favored.

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Speaker 1: So real quick, I was told that you couldn't bet

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Speaker 1: Rogers situation that they were off the board.

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Speaker 3: The odds are up here.

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Speaker 1: So I assume they think Rogers is the quarterble.

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Speaker 3: The odds are here. So Steelers favored by one and

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Speaker 3: a half over the Seahawks in.

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Speaker 1: Week two here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, week three, they are one and a half point

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Speaker 1: I think the betting market is overboard.

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Speaker 3: As I said, New England's favored in eleven of their

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Speaker 1: They're much better than they were this time last year.

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Speaker 1: They won four games, but they're not They're not seven games,

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Speaker 1: but right I think they're over under totals like seven

440
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Speaker 1: and a half or eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

442
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Speaker 1: The Patriots, yeah, I get that much better now. They

443
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 1: were hideous. They did the words ross in the league.

444
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Speaker 3: The Vikings in Ireland are favored by one and a

445
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 3: half right now, I would assume the Steelers favored by

446
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: six and a half over the Browns coming back.

447
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think that's crazy either.

448
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 3: The Steelers are four and a half point underdogs on

449
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Speaker 3: that Thursday night game in Cincinnati.

450
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Speaker 1: That totally adds up. That's a brutal turnaround.

451
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 3: Steelers are underdogs at home coming back off of that against.

452
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Speaker 1: The Packers, they're dogs one and a half points screen

453
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Speaker 1: based quality. I don't know problem with that.

454
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: Steelers favored by three and a half over the Colts

455
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: the following week.

456
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Speaker 1: The news of the day is they just lost their owner.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steelers are four and a half point point underdogs

458
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 3: at the Chargers.

459
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I might put a buck on that right now,

460
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: Steeler plus four and a half with a heavy Steeler crowd.

461
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: Steelers are one and a half point underdogs against the

462
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 3: Bengals on November sixteenth.

463
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: And that's here.

464
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: That's here.

465
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Speaker 1: I don't think since he's as good as Vegas six either.

466
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 3: I don't think so either.

467
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: I didn't see in New England or two the ones

468
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: I think are overrated.

469
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: Steelers are two and a half point underdogs at Chicago.

470
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: I think that one's a little off.

471
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: Steelers are four and a half point underdogs at home

472
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Speaker 3: against Buffalo.

473
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Speaker 1: I get it. The stretch, the stretch of schedule is

474
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: not much fun.

475
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: Steelers are eight and a half point underdogs at Baltimore.

476
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take Steeler plus eight and a half in

477
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: Baltimore this year or twenty thirty three and not even

478
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Speaker 1: knowing who's going to be on the field Steelers, Ravens,

479
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: or for that matter, if you gave me Ravens plus

480
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: eight and a half in two thirty three, I'll take

481
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: the points.

482
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: Steelers are two and a half point favorites against the Dolphins.

483
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that adds.

484
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: They are six point underdogs to the Lions.

485
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: In destroy that might be their toughest game.

486
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 3: They are two and a half point favorites in Cleveland, Okay, sure,

487
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 3: and then the final week of the season they are

488
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: four and a half point underdogs at home against the Ravens.

489
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Speaker 1: I'll take both the points in the Ravens. Yeah. So,

490
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Speaker 1: I know the short answer is probably yes. But does

491
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Speaker 1: Vegas make money on these they have now they must

492
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: or they wouldn't, but.

493
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Speaker 3: They only have the They have the Steelers favored in

494
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: six games this year.

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00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's low.

496
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Speaker 3: So I wonder if they if on this particular sports book,

497
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Speaker 3: if they haven't factored in the Rogers stuff yet.

498
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, because I don't say. What if today you

499
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: went in there and put ten bucks on the Steelers

500
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: in every game, you're gonna lose some, you're gonna win some.

501
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're already saying the over unders eight and

502
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: a half, right, that's their only favorite six game.

503
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't jive. I think there's money to be made there.

504
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: If you just bet the Steelers in every game now

505
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: on those lines or whatever site that is, and you

506
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: still get points, You're often gonna be getting points. Yeah,

507
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: you know you have no clue how the season is

508
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna go. Nobody does.

509
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: But why is that any different than betting the over

510
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 3: unders win totals? Yeah, the win total probably not with.

511
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: The lines, but if you did the over under, if

512
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: you money lined them all, because then you pay off

513
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: more with all these dogs.

514
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

515
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: See, Like to me, there's a margin there. I'm not

516
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: a betting expert at all or very good enough at math.

517
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing it out there.

518
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for example, so hear me out real quick, Okay,

519
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: if they're if they're over underwin totals eight and a half,

520
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: but you bet every game and they're only favored in six.

521
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: But you don't, and you ignore the spreads. You just

522
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: take the money line on the Steelers in every game

523
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: across the board, knowing you're gonna lose some and you're

524
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna win some. And I take the under the eight

525
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: and a half as a separate bet. I'm gonna win something,

526
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: and I could win both.

527
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Speaker 3: I think if you just took the money line on

528
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Speaker 3: all those, you'd end up winning.

529
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Speaker 1: Because you're substantially right.

530
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're only favor they're only favored in six games,

531
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: so you're gonna get positive money and eleven of the games.

532
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is you're gonna win more than

533
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: you put down on many of the wins. I'm just

534
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: and if they only get to eight or nine wins,

535
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: which Vegas thinks, are gonna win eight or nine games,

536
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: So if they win eight, I still make money. If

537
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: I make win nine, I win even more money.

538
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Even For example, in the opener, the money line is

539
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: minus one forty eight in favor of the steel for

540
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Speaker 3: the Steelers.

541
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: That one doesn't pay great, but okay.

542
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 3: But they're only two they're two and a half. Point favorites.

543
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: Some of those other games that you look at, like

544
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: the Seahawks game in Week two, they're minus one twenty two. Okay,

545
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: if they in New England, they're plus one oh two.

546
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 1: That doesn't pay as well as your think, not as

547
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: well as you think right right.

548
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: Against the Vikings they're plus one hundred.

549
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Because they're a dog in New England. But it still

550
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: basically my dollar only makes about a dollar.

551
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. The one that really screws it up is the

552
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: Browns or minus two to seventy eight. The Bengals there

553
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: plus one seventy. The Packers are plus one oh two. Okay,

554
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: the Colts they're minus one seventy five.

555
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: These folks in Vegas know a thing, pretty smart.

556
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Charger the Charger game, they're plus one sixty four.

557
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: Okay.

558
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: The second time against the Bengals at home, even though

559
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: they're they're plus one point one and a half, it's

560
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: plus one hundred on the money line. In Chicago it's

561
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: plus one fourteen. Against the Bills it's plus one sixty four.

562
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: I guess this makes up for a lot of the

563
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: difference between favorites and over underwind total. There's a massive

564
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: gap there. Two and a half game gap.

565
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: In Baltimore, they're plus three hundred. Miami, they're minus one

566
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: thirty Detroit, their plus two hundred Cleveland. In Cleveland, they're

567
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: minus one thirty. In the final game of the season

568
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh plus one seventy against Baltimore.

569
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean there will be ones that hit

570
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: big for you if you just money lined it. But

571
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: some of your wins that you think are wins don't

572
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: pay off as much as.

573
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: You still get the money back and you're still.

574
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But no, that's interesting.

575
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: So I just I saw that with the I always

576
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: find this betting on the NFL interesting when you can

577
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: bet on Week fifteen and you have no clue, not

578
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: that even the sharpest of betters knows who's going to

579
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: be playing quarterback that way week right, And I'm sure

580
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Vegas just wants the whole world to bet fifty one

581
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: side and fifty percent on the other.

582
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: The bill schedule as it stands, they get Baltimore at home.

583
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: That's what they're opener.

584
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: That's their opener.

585
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they're tougher than they should be favorite

586
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: that one.

587
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: They get Kansas City at home, they get can't go

588
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: to Houston Tampa Bay at home. They do go to

589
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: Houston with their three and a half point favorites there.

590
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: They gets kind of weird that you'd have three now

591
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: you have four, right, Yeah, you have four games against

592
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: fellow number one seeds and three of them are in

593
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: their place. Yeah, you would think that would go be

594
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: two and two.

595
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: Every year they get Cincinnati at home. They also get

596
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: Philadelphia at home.

597
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Wow, all their tough games at home. Then, yeah, you

598
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: could make the argument and get what they're saying.

599
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: You could make the argument that their toughest road game

600
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: this year maybe Pittsburgh might be the Steelers. It's either

601
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers or Houston, one of those two, and they

602
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 3: play them back to back.

603
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting.

604
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: They play Tampa Bay at Houston at Steelers, then they

605
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: have Cincinnati at home again the following week.

606
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Wow, that's odd and very fortunate. I mean all they're hard,

607
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: hard games are in Buffalo.

608
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking like there are only other They're

609
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: at the Jets, at the Falcons, at the Panthers, at Houston,

610
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: at Pittsburgh, at Cleveland.

611
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: They could be seven and one on the road. I mean,

612
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win all those home games against Ravens, Chiefs, Eagles, Bucks,

613
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: you know, Bengals, all the for the top teams. But

614
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: I like their chance. They should be favored in all

615
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: of them in May. Yeah, but those road games are

616
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: that has to be the easiest road schedule in the league.

617
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: Their smallest their smallest margin that they're favored by is

618
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: one and a half. They're favored by one and a

619
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: half over Baltimore and one and a half against Philadelphia.

620
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: From what I remember, they don't have a lot of

621
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: like rest disadvantages or anything either, Like there's not a

622
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: lot of three games in ten days and that kind

623
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: of nonsense. Either short weeks that type of thing. They

624
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: get the Saints at home one of the what's the

625
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: spread in that game? Okay, it might be twenty, but.

626
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: It's a yeah, especially it's late in the year. I'm

627
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: just looking at this schedule, I mean, pretty nice, sets

628
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: up pretty well for them, especially they have.

629
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: A first play schedule, so they have tough teams.

630
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: But do you I mean the questions you have to

631
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: ask yourself, do you think they go eight to no

632
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: on the road? History would tell us no.

633
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think so. But I think they win

634
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: six maybe seven, So.

635
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean, and again I'm looking at their toughest road games.

636
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: It's like in Atlanta from what I remember in Pittsburgh,

637
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like games that they should be favored in May, and.

638
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: Wow, they go to Cleveland.

639
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: I bet the Giants is like the polar opposite. And

640
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: they also have all kinds of like rest disadvantages too,

641
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Like their their schedule is awful.

642
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just a huh strange, a little quirk in

643
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: there scheduling.

644
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: There sharp's the best at of Warren. But are you

645
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: know we focus on the Steeler schedules. I don't know

646
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: those loopholes in the Bills schedule, of course, but when

647
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: they start coming out and I'm not besmudging the schedule makers,

648
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: it would be an unbelievably difficult job. Especially they're like, well,

649
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: Springsteen's in your building on this Sunday. You have mons

650
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: right right, the baseball playoffs or whatever. But there are

651
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: some the schedules are not even close to being equal.

652
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Every any year you look at right, when you start

653
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: to look at rest, where you play your tough teams,

654
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: where you play your your easy teams. And frankly, the Steelers,

655
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: unfortunately almost all their tough games. They're at a rest

656
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: disadvantage this year, you know, like in Detroit in Cincinnati,

657
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: they're the best the teams with the highest win totals.

658
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't set up well for the Steelers in terms

659
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: of rest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not again, it's not like it was

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Speaker 3: last year. One day doesn't bother me. One day doesn't

662
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Speaker 3: because you can adjust to that Cincinnati game. They're both

663
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Speaker 3: playing Thursday night, so it's it's a wash and Cincinnati's

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Speaker 3: on the road before that game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love coming back on them from

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Speaker 1: a Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Or No, that's you know, that's terrible.

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Speaker 1: That's terrible. But no, your point about last year, like

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Speaker 1: is one of the harder ones you're gonna see. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a real out liar. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

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Speaker 3: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I

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Speaker 3: will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Least.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lollie and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale lolli. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt Kevin Potra on NFL dot Com

681
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Speaker 3: has taking a look at the new quarterbacks in their

682
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Speaker 3: new situations and whether the numbers will be better, the same,

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Speaker 3: the worse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, some more of them, we think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the presumptive starters here, you got Sam Darnald

686
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Speaker 3: going to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: Donald threw for forty three hundred nineteen yards thirty five

689
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Speaker 3: touchdowns twelve interceptions last year.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the under.

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Speaker 3: He's taking the under on that. He said it's going

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Speaker 3: to be worse.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, he goes from one of the worst

694
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Speaker 1: situations to an okay or one of the best situations

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Speaker 1: to one of the to an okay situation, and more

696
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Speaker 1: is going to be demanded. I was when expectations are higher,

697
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: contracts higher. He's very, very talented. I mean, I don't

698
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Speaker 1: think he's a throwaway, you know. I think he has

699
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Speaker 1: a chance to be good for them, But that's probably

700
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Speaker 1: his career year in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Gino Smith, whom he replaces in Seattle, goes to the

702
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Speaker 3: Raiders through for forty three hundred and twenty yards twenty

703
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: one touchdowns fifteen interceptions last year, and Patrick thinks it

704
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Speaker 3: will be better.

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Speaker 1: I think it's better bow and running the balls. I

706
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: don't if you'll throw as many attempts good receivers in Seattle,

707
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Speaker 1: but I think he's got better protection. They run the

708
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Speaker 1: ball a lot, run the ball a lot, Yeah, Chip,

709
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Speaker 1: Kelly and gent.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if his numbers will be better. The

711
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Speaker 3: interceptions were high from Wheen. Yeah, I bet that was lower.

712
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: I bet he's more efficient. Yeah, maybe the numbers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a better year justin fields. Well, he only played

714
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Speaker 3: ten ten games, made six starts, eleven hundred and six yards,

715
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Speaker 3: five touchdown passes, one interception, five rushing touchdowns, and six fumbles.

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Speaker 3: He thinks his numbers will be better.

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Speaker 1: Well, oh, sure he's a starter, right, he presumed starter

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Speaker 1: for seventeen games. But will they be I mean he's

719
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Speaker 1: not gonna have a five to one interception.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask, right, No, that's

721
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Speaker 3: not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean I don't think he'll be four

723
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Speaker 1: and two extrapolated over seventeen games, or a five to

724
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Speaker 1: one interception ratio extrapolated over seventeen games. Yeah, you know,

725
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Speaker 1: I bet his rushing totals are higher per game. I

726
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna run him a lot.

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Speaker 3: He had two hundred and eighty nine rushing yards in

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Speaker 3: his games last year, and again some of that was

729
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Speaker 3: held down. He had a little bit of a quad

730
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Speaker 3: injury at that point. Then he had the abdominal injury

731
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Speaker 3: that they couldn't use him.

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Speaker 1: I could see him getting at like seven fifty with

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Speaker 1: the Jets this.

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Speaker 3: Year, though, Yeah, maybe because he's running for his life.

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Speaker 3: Some of the competitions Russell Wilson versus Jamis Winston, I

736
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Speaker 3: don't see that as a competition.

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Speaker 1: I think Wilson's the guy. I think Wilson's the guy,

738
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Speaker 1: and I think Dark will eventually take over this year.

739
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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be like Wilson and Winston bounce

740
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Speaker 1: him back and forth. I'm not sure that Winston's even necessary,

741
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Speaker 1: and I still kind of like Winston. But I mean,

742
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Speaker 1: maybe an injury factors in and he could be their

743
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Speaker 1: best guy. I'm not saying he's not, but he's a

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Speaker 1: little unnecessary for the whole process.

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Speaker 3: His starting days are behind him. Oh yeah, I don't

746
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: think he's going to be like, yeah, twelve interceptions last year.

747
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Speaker 3: In seven starts that Money had twelve. He had thirteen

748
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Speaker 3: touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: Like I only go beat out run.

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Speaker 3: He's just that's who he is.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 3: If he started seventeen games for somebody right now, he

753
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Speaker 3: would have twenty five touchdown passes, but he'd also have

754
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Speaker 3: twenty four interceptions. That's what he does does and you

755
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Speaker 3: just hope that the you know, you get him on

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Speaker 3: the good week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steelers saw him on a good week. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At one time he's Ryan Fitzpatrick. That's what he is.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't disagree with that. The I think inevitably Wilson,

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Speaker 1: even if he plays well, will give way to Dart

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Speaker 1: and they'll still pick like in the top five. And

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Speaker 1: you have to know what you have from Dart. Their

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Speaker 1: schedule is so awful.

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Speaker 3: They took Dart in the first round. I think they

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Speaker 3: give them. I don't see them in the quarterback mix

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 1: I would hope, not for their sake, but if it's

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Speaker 1: a new GM and new coach, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not even thinking that way though. They're just not They can't.

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Speaker 1: I like the coach. Well, they go, they end up

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Speaker 1: with three wins this year. They're not gonna be bad.

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Speaker 3: They're better than three wins. I don't care what the schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think they're better than three wins too. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think they get the seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, but you know, I think maybe they.

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Speaker 1: That's why I didn't love trading up for Dark. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If the owner tells you gotta go get a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: you go get a quarter Well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what happened too, and I think the

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Speaker 1: same thing happened in Cleveland, and it took some convincing

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Speaker 1: not to take them at two and three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Daniel Jones ten games last year, all starts, two

784
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: thousand and seventy yards, eight touchdown passes, seven interceptions. He

785
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Speaker 3: did rush for two sixty five and two more scores

786
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Speaker 3: with four fumbles.

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Speaker 1: If he were to be the seventeen game starter for

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Speaker 1: the Colts, I think than that it's gonna be better

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Speaker 1: than that, and I would say it could be a

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Speaker 1: respectable quarterback twenty one finish.

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Speaker 3: I think if he made ten starts for the Colts,

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Speaker 3: it's probably better than that. I'm not saying they have

793
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Speaker 3: a more diverse passing scheme than what not passing scene,

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Speaker 3: but more available options.

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of options and they got a

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Speaker 1: good back. And yeah, I'm not saying he's good or like, oh,

797
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers should have grabbed him. I do think he

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00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: gets a little bit of a bum wrap because he

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Speaker 1: was drafted too early. Not his fault, goes to the

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Speaker 1: biggest market on the planet and didn't live up to it. Yeah,

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00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: not fault.

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: As soon as he's well, he's got success.

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Speaker 1: Got to give him a nickname, and then they give

804
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: a dumb nick game. Yeah, and then they give him

805
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: a contract that probably wasn't smart either, which he didn't

806
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Speaker 1: live up to. But if you analyze them for what

807
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: he is, he's okay. He's just not the savior. He's not.

808
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not. He's not Joe Namath or Phil Simms.

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Speaker 1: Like I would take him over Winston. Yeah, you know right.

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00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: If you look at his career numbers, they're eerily similar.

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Speaker 1: In the Trevor Laura and yeah. Yeah, and he runs more.

812
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: He's a very good runner.

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Speaker 3: You like Lawrence more than I do?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I do.

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Speaker 3: I might be done with him. I'm not the can

816
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: he picket Joe Flacco train? Well, obviously if Picket starts

817
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: a game, yeah, it's going to be better than what

818
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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 1: I bet he does.

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Speaker 3: Last year he had two He played in five games,

821
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Speaker 3: he made one start, two hundred and ninety one passing yards,

822
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 3: two touchdowns came in and Neil the last one interception. Yeah,

823
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: fifteen rushing yards, one rushing touchdown in a fumble Flaco.

824
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Speaker 1: Play. He is another one that's going to have TD

825
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: interception ratio of one to one. Good his life.

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Speaker 3: Played in eight games, six and more starts, seventeen hundred

827
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Speaker 3: and sixty one passing yards, twelve touchdowns, seven interceptions, twenty

828
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Speaker 3: six rushing yards, four fumbles, twenty six rushing yards. That's

829
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Speaker 3: somebody must have fallen down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he had one long run that

831
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Speaker 1: the seeds just parted. He slid. I don't know what

832
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Speaker 1: to say about those guys numbers. I don't think anyone

833
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: in Cleveland's going to play I was about to say

834
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Speaker 1: any more than six games start. I just think they're

835
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Speaker 1: all going to get a shot at some point, and

836
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: it's going to be a mess. Yeah.

837
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Speaker 3: His wild cards here, you get the Aaron Rodgers, Mason,

838
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 3: Rudolph Skyler, Thompson grouping.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Skyler's going to be in the I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think Skyler's going to be mixing. I don't even know

841
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Speaker 3: Skyler makes a team, right, Rogers last year I kind

842
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: of betting against it now I think about it. Seventeen

843
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 3: games all starts, yeah, three eight and ninety seven yards,

844
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Speaker 3: twenty eight touchdown passes, eleven interceptions, one hundred and seven

845
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Speaker 3: rushing yards, five fumbles.

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Speaker 1: Would you take it? Twenty touchdowns twenty eight touchdowns? Is

847
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: that's actually a few more picks than he usually throws you.

848
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Speaker 3: If you looked at what Russell Wilson was producing last year,

849
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Speaker 3: if Russell Wilson starts all seventeen games, his numbers would

850
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Speaker 3: have worked out the twenty five touchdown passes and I

851
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: think like eight interceptions, which.

852
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Speaker 1: Is a big jump in recent history, and dealer land

853
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Speaker 1: that twenty eight stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight is a big number, and I will bet,

855
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Speaker 3: especially if you're running the balls my which is they

856
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: want to on the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you take twenty would you

858
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Speaker 1: take twenty eight? Passing? Tight Rogers aside, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't care who the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. Twenty touchdown twenty sign me up,

861
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Speaker 1: give me too, me too, so that would be great.

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Speaker 1: I am on board. Yeah, and I will bet Rogers

863
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Speaker 1: if he plays football this year. For whoever throws less

864
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Speaker 1: than thirteen interceptions, he's one of the best in the league,

865
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Speaker 1: best in league history of value in the football. Yeah,

866
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Speaker 1: I don't think he all of a sudden he got

867
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Speaker 1: risky with it.

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Speaker 3: For Rudolph it was eight games, five starts, fifteen hundred

869
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Speaker 3: and thirty yards, nine touchdowns, nine interceptions, one hundred and

870
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Speaker 3: six rushing yards and a touchdown with five fumbles.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the nine to nine. That shocks me. Yeah,

872
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Speaker 1: I think it could be better than that, especially the

873
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Speaker 1: interception ratio.

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Speaker 3: And then you go through a bunch of backups here.

875
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: We're not going to roll through that, but then we're

876
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Speaker 3: gonna get to a break again. That's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for hour number one. That was interesting little it's

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Speaker 3: more new starters this year.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and he's not even talking about trinkies and yeah,

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Speaker 1: right right, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's gonna do for our number one, Matt, and

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Speaker 3: I'll be back with our number two. We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: the listener questions today in the second hour right after

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Speaker 3: this