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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with

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Speaker 1: the story of the day.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the theme of this week is just

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Speaker 2: like pedophiles and child abuse.

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Speaker 1: What is going on with the world, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This story is nuts.

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Speaker 2: So Iraq has now passed a new law that makes

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Speaker 2: it legal for children as young as nine to be married.

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Speaker 1: So I read a couple different articles about this, and

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Speaker 1: I think I understand what's happening. So it seems like

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Speaker 1: it's here in this country where you could get married

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Speaker 1: by the church, but you also have to get married legally,

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Speaker 1: so there's two different things. You know, we grew up well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to consider myself to be Catholic, but

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Speaker 1: we grew up in a Catholic environment. So if you

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Speaker 1: were to get married in the church, that would be

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Speaker 1: the religious ceremony. But then you also have to fill

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Speaker 1: out a permit or is that what it's called a permit?

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Speaker 1: When you got married, well, you have a license, a

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Speaker 1: marriage license whatever that, so you register legally with the state.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like in Iraq they have a similar thing.

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Speaker 1: But now they're trying to just make it so the

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Speaker 1: religious one is the one that's in charge and it's

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Speaker 1: going to override the state one or you know, the

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Speaker 1: legal government one. And in that their rules of the

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Speaker 1: religious ones are very loose with children being able, well,

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Speaker 1: it's females could get married as young as nine, males

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Speaker 1: are a little bit older at fifteen years old. But

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Speaker 1: more importantly, I mean, that's disturbing enough, but it also

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Speaker 1: is taking rights away from girls too and women too,

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Speaker 1: which is normally if they were to get divorced, they

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Speaker 1: would be able to be entitled to living in the

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Speaker 1: marital house, and they would be able to get some

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Speaker 1: kind of alimony after they were divorced. But if they

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Speaker 1: go strictly by religious law, they don't get any of

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. They also aren't technically legal under

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Speaker 1: the government, so they won't be eligible for things like

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Speaker 1: giving birth in a hospital. And so think about nine

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Speaker 1: and ten and eleven year olds getting pregnant and giving birth.

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Speaker 1: There's just more risk of complications and stuff like serious

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Speaker 1: complications that could end in death, and they're forced to

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Speaker 1: give birth at home because they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: underneath of the legal government system. Anymore. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know why they change that, because already in Iraq it

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Speaker 1: seems like they were having a really bad time with

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Speaker 1: people getting married to children as it was. The statistics

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Speaker 1: are outrageous. It's been rising over the past twenty years.

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Speaker 1: But they said that twenty eight percent of girls in

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Speaker 1: Iraq are married before the age of eighteen, and twenty

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Speaker 1: two percent of the unregistered marriages, so that would be

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Speaker 1: the religious type ceremonies the girls are under fourteen. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. But now like they're just going to That

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Speaker 1: was a loophole, so people were already doing it, doing

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Speaker 1: these unregistered or like religious ceremony kind of marriages, but

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Speaker 1: now they're just strictly doing all of these marriages instead

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Speaker 1: of the legal ones that were registered. It just makes

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Speaker 1: me really sick because I understand there's cultural differences and everything,

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Speaker 1: but I can't understand any culture of religion that makes

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Speaker 1: it acceptable for children to be married. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I was reading that.

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Speaker 2: They're essentially now, you know, making child rape legal too,

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Speaker 2: because that's what this is at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: And I can't imagine that anybody doesn't see this as

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't care if it's their religion or not,

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Speaker 1: it's you know what I mean. There are religions, plenty

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Speaker 1: of religions do messed up things. You could be respectful

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Speaker 1: But this practice is just it's really sad because you

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Speaker 1: can't imagine that any woman that lives in that country

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Speaker 1: was involved with making this law. Correct. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: no way that any muster.

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Speaker 2: They're like totally brainwashed into thinking it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't know how it came into law now,

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Speaker 1: like if it was voted in or whatever, but regardless,

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Speaker 2: I know that people don't have that option to move

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Speaker 1: Family some money, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And they might not have an understanding that it's wrong

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Speaker 2: And if they're saying this is culturally happening and they're

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Speaker 2: that this isn't right and shouldn't be happening. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is as big as bullshit as saying it's like

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Speaker 2: culturally appropriate to tattoo a nine year old because they

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Speaker 2: said the family said that was okay too, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: why are we not protecting the children anymore?

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Speaker 1: It's really bad. I mean, this is if this was

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Speaker 1: happening here, obviously you would. It's just like that that's

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Speaker 1: be fighting against it, and they're still pushing it. The

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Speaker 1: thing is, it does happen in this country with religious

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Speaker 2: It's easier to catch here and take care of here,

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Speaker 2: but it is happening all over the world. But to

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny? I remember not funny, but when

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Speaker 1: we used to watch To Catch a Predator a thons

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Speaker 1: that they were trying to justify it because it was

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Speaker 1: okay in their country to have sex with younger people

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Speaker 1: that's not okay here. Ever, of course, it seems like

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Speaker 1: in this country. But that's like a whole other side note.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, let's get into the celebrity news because we

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Speaker 1: have a couple stories that are pretty good this week.

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Speaker 2: Last week Oprah went on her podcast and discussed how

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Speaker 2: her taking GLP one medications for weight loss ended up

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Speaker 2: changing her understanding of how thin people approached eating.

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Speaker 1: I think that this is really interesting actually, So she

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Speaker 1: I see they just people that are thinner don't ever

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Speaker 1: And I honestly agree with her, because I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know for sure that I've dealt with that my entire life,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's some people that are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I think a problem we have in particular in our

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Speaker 2: every single night, I have to have a snack after

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Speaker 2: I eat dinner, right, And that doesn't always necessarily mean

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Speaker 2: I'm hungry and I want something to snack on. I'm

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Speaker 2: just so used to my entire life having a sweet

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed, and that's just the way that we

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Speaker 1: because there's definitely people that are just born and they're thin,

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Speaker 1: I believe that one hundred percent. But there also are

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Speaker 1: people that that are very regimented and force themselves not

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Speaker 1: when you're listening to Oprah in this interview, it almost

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Speaker 1: it almost sounds similar to an addiction, right Like when

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Speaker 1: And you can't imagine when you look at some people

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Speaker 1: Why can't they stop? But because it's so easy for

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Speaker 2: Do you think anybody really wants to be doing stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. It's part of having addiction, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just cool that she realized because when you take

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Speaker 1: really interesting and it's interesting that she thought that she was.

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Speaker 1: She's really struggled with it her whole life and beat

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Speaker 2: All right, So we have a couple influencer TikTok stories.

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Speaker 2: So first is this really sad story this food influencer

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Speaker 2: Rebecca Wiley Simms. She has died at age thirty nine

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Speaker 2: after some surgery complications. I actually knew of her because

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Speaker 2: she owned this really cool cheese shop called Lady and

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Speaker 2: looking up, you know, places to get good food or snacks,

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Speaker 2: everything they make there looks beautiful, and it's just really

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Speaker 2: sad to see that she died like this, and her

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Speaker 1: It is really sad when you look at the pictures,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I have to get a ta. I

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Speaker 1: I hate some of these influencers so much. I like,

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Speaker 1: you go get a sandwich yourself and stop using I'm

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Speaker 1: not like your personal Well do you think the nurse

435
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Speaker 1: live streaming? I don't know, but like why would you?

436
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she knew she was live streaming.

437
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't the girl be holding up a phone

438
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Speaker 1: that she would be able to see it? Well, not

439
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Speaker 1: necessarily because she the nurse has never shown in the video.

440
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: You could hear her talking, oh okayground, but the way

441
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: it's positioned, it might have just been propped up against

442
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Speaker 1: a chair or a windowsill or something. You would have

443
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: might not have known that it was going. But I

444
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: just think like, I agree with you. It's this weird

445
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: form of narcissism. It's just really trashy to think that

446
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: you should be documenting something like this and then be

447
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: giving people what you think pro tips on how to

448
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Speaker 1: get attention of the nurse. So what ended up happening

449
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: was another person on TikTok saw this and ended up

450
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Speaker 1: reporting her to the hospital and Child Protective Services. And

451
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: she's defending it like, well, well, first she was defending

452
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Speaker 1: it in the live stream that she didn't want to

453
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Speaker 1: put the baby down, which is why she didn't want

454
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Speaker 1: to get up, because the baby would get fussy when

455
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Speaker 1: she was put down. Because the nurse was trying to

456
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Speaker 1: be like, you can get up and take a break

457
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Speaker 1: and go get food if you need food, and she's like, well,

458
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Speaker 1: I don't want to put the kid down, And then

459
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: later after the video goes viral and get her I

460
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Speaker 1: believe in that there's not some kind of a call

461
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Speaker 1: button that she could have. You know that that's unplugging

462
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Speaker 1: a machine to get a nurse to come in right away.

463
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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you hit the call button, they're like, we'll

464
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Speaker 1: get to you when we can because we're dealing with

465
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Speaker 1: other stuff. But if a baby seems like they're in distress,

466
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Speaker 1: they're going to run in right away, you know what

467
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Speaker 1: I mean.

468
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Speaker 2: She claims that the nurse told her that was the

469
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Speaker 2: quickest way to get attention with the Yeah, okay, And

470
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Speaker 2: I'm like, if any nurse is suggesting a patient unplug the.

471
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Speaker 1: Monitors for the child literally didn't happen.

472
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Speaker 2: It didn't happen, and if it did, the one person

473
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Speaker 2: chance it did, that person needs to be fired because

474
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Speaker 2: why are you putting the child at.

475
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Speaker 1: Risk because you want a fucking sandwich. Every day we

476
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Speaker 1: talk about these things. This person isn't ready for a baby.

477
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Speaker 1: I'll just say that she's just worried about her phone

478
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: and her followers and being extra like, you don't know,

479
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: she probably knew this was wrong, and she's like like,

480
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: look exactly, we're talking about it. Every news is talking

481
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Speaker 1: about it. But she had millions of views.

482
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Speaker 2: She ended up deleting her account, so what was the point.

483
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Speaker 2: It's not like you got her all these followers.

484
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Speaker 1: And because the same reason a lot of these videos

485
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Speaker 1: come out, These people just are on this other level

486
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: of not being in tune to everybody else in the world,

487
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: and they put out these outrageous videos and then you're like, okay,

488
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: every like, of course we hear that, and every person's

489
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: like every person that's listening right now is like, this

490
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: girl's an asshole. But she didn't think that when she

491
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Speaker 1: was posting it. Otherwise she wouldn't have posted it, you

492
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, she's like surprised at the negative backlash.

493
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Speaker 2: Well, I think this plays into what we talk about

494
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Speaker 2: a lot, that there is just this like shifting no

495
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: regard for human life at all, Like she didn't give

496
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: a fuck what happened to her baby because she wanted

497
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: a sandwich and she wanted a viral video. So what's

498
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: what is it at the expense of the child that's

499
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Speaker 2: in the ICU right, it's unbelieved you.

500
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Speaker 1: Was the monitor thing that was on it was for

501
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: the pull sox or something. I have no idea what

502
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Speaker 1: I mean if it was if it was for pull sox,

503
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: like if she pulled it off for a second to

504
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: get it to ding, it's not going to kill the kid.

505
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's just kind of weird. It's the principle

506
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Speaker 1: of it's just weird that you are yeah to do that.

507
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Speaker 1: And the nurse was very nice, like you could get

508
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: up and then and then she was like no, and

509
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: then apparently she did it again to get a drink

510
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: or something like that. Listen, she was doing this to

511
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: get views on her video, I'm telling you, And she

512
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: just didn't think She thought she was being like creative

513
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: or something. She had no idea that people were going

514
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: to think she was an asshole.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, to me, this is a giant red flag.

516
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Speaker 2: Is somebody that's taking home that child? Because what else

517
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: is she going to do to exploit the kid when

518
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Speaker 2: they're not even out of the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Just think, like, when you're in that situation, Hadaia said,

520
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Speaker 1: neat because ant I had two kids that were in

521
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: the NIKU when she had them, Like, is that anywhere

522
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: on your mind, like what your followers are thinking right

523
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: now when you're in that situation with your kid. I

524
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Speaker 1: just can't even imagine it.

525
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine being in a place where I

526
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: have a baby in the nick you where I'm in

527
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: a mentality of even posting content. I could see going

528
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: on social media to distract yourself from the like difficult

529
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: situation you're in, but to be making content of it

530
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: is insane to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people have.

532
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: No business having children anymore, Like, seriously, there are just

533
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: some people that should not be allowed to have kids.

534
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: And I know that's like beyond my control and everything,

535
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: but it is very frustrating to hear stories of people.

536
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Speaker 1: And we talk about this all the time, like where

537
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Speaker 1: do you draw the line? Because there's there's a variation

538
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Speaker 1: of people that do unconventional things.

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Speaker 2: And then, well, I think about this a lot because

540
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Speaker 2: I think in your case, you were fifteen years old

541
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Speaker 2: when you had me. I think a lot of people

542
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: could have made the argument, what does a fifteen year

543
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: old have any business having a baby?

544
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Speaker 1: But having me.

545
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Speaker 2: Ended up changing your life around, And it does happen

546
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: for some people that you know, maybe don't.

547
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: Seem maybe it is. Maybe this situation will change her

548
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: life around because she's not getting revenue anymore from it.

549
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: And now Child Protective Services has involved your kids, what

550
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: like two weeks old, and now they're already at your door.

551
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: Get your shit together?

552
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Huh? Okay? Freak accidents all right?

553
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: In China, this kid walked up to a sewer, thought

554
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: it was a good idea to put a firecracker into

555
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: the manhole, and then of course, within seconds it blew up,

556
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: throwing him into the air. This video looks so ridiculous.

557
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 2: It doesn't even look real, the way he flies up

558
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: in the air.

559
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: He's lucky that he's not dead, because a manhole cover

560
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: is is like that really heavy iron. That thing could

561
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: have flew up and hit him really hard or hit

562
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: somebody around too. Think about something that heavy flying up

563
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: into the air and then falling down when you're not like,

564
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: no one's expecting the sewer to explode when they're standing

565
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Speaker 1: out in the street.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is literally a real life situation of

567
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: what happened to Uncle Lewis in Christmas vacation when he

568
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: like likes the cigarette near the near the sewer. It's unreal.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kids are thinking doing shit like this.

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Speaker 1: Well I feel better to know actually that it was

571
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Speaker 1: a child, because they're not thinking and a kid is

572
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Speaker 1: like I love, Like this sounds silly to say, but

573
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Speaker 1: just like I love the innocence of kids sometimes, and

574
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: just like that kid just wanted to thinking he was

575
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Speaker 1: doing something funny and like nobody had thought of before,

576
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Speaker 1: and then like it ending like this. You know it,

577
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: if it was a grown up, you'd be like, Okay,

578
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: that person's off or something, you know.

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did get some injuries, but he's expected

580
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: to be okay, So I think he probably learned his

581
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Speaker 2: lesson about just like Willy Nilly throwing explosives down into

582
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Speaker 2: the sewer.

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Speaker 1: There is like a typical boy mom situation because it's

584
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Speaker 1: just you thinking about your daughters and you're just like,

585
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Speaker 1: this would never happen ever in a million years. But

586
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Speaker 1: I mean, they do their own dumb shit, trust me.

587
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Speaker 1: But but like you know, putting a plastic bottle on

588
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Speaker 1: their lip and sucking really hard and to make their

589
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Speaker 1: lips figure or something like that. But but yeah, like

590
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Speaker 1: this sounds like something my brother would have did honestly

591
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: growing up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna ask you, like, how many

593
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Speaker 2: situations somewhere that Louis did like this, right, because oh yeah,

594
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Speaker 2: we have a million stories of him just getting into

595
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Speaker 2: trouble for no reason.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday in Nashville, this seventeen year old student, his

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Speaker 2: of students and he killed a fellow sixteen year old classmate.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this every episode. Why is live streaming even necessary? Like,

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Speaker 1: why don't we just get rid of it? Does anyone

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Speaker 1: need it for their livelihood at this point that they

624
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Speaker 1: couldn't get rid of it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think a lot of people use

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Speaker 2: it for their businesses or their shows. We were just

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Speaker 1: But I guess if we recorded that episode and it

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Speaker 1: just got posted five minutes after we recorded it, would

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Speaker 1: the world be over? No? I mean, because like, look,

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Speaker 1: it's it's attracting I mean, for all of the good

632
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Speaker 1: it does. I know there's lots of people that use

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Speaker 1: it for their social media platforms and stuff, but like

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Speaker 1: it's attracting people that are committing crimes and doing dumb

635
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Speaker 1: shit like the girl we just talked about at the hospital.

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Speaker 1: But also it's we hear this time and time again

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Speaker 1: that there's now like people are wanting to live stream

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Speaker 1: their crimes and have it televice to the world, you

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00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's just the principle of it

641
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Speaker 2: and just our social media use in general. It's just

642
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: really removing us from living in the moment. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was really curious to see the impact of TikTok

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Speaker 2: going away and how that was gonna affect everybody, And

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00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: then of course what was it not.

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Speaker 1: Even how did it affect everyone in the in the

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Speaker 1: six hours it was down. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 1: was even, like, you know, I was even under this

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Speaker 1: understanding it's definitely not going away forever. Maybe it will

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Speaker 1: be down for a week, maybe a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: And I was interested to see how that shifted everybody's

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Speaker 1: perspective on social media and how they used it. And

653
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: I know Instagram exists in everything, but TikTok undeniably has

654
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: this really addictive formula to it. But you know, twelve

655
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: hours later it's back up and running, and it was

656
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: really wait, let me tell you middle of the night.

657
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: So let me tell you this interesting article that I

658
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: read today that people, so, you know, TikTok's back on, right,

659
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: but you can't download the app right now. So if

660
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: you don't have downloaded, no, you can't download the app.

661
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: So there's phones that are selling on eBay for ten

662
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars that already have the TikTok app on it. Wow,

663
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: how outrageous is that? Who is? Because I'm like, I

664
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: like that, I probably have it on my phone because

665
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: you well you work our TikTok's count right, But yeah,

666
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: I probably I don't even know if it's on my phone? Honestly,

667
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: is it? I like, ask you, Maria, what's on my phone?

668
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, DM, I could sell my because I would

669
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: totally do that.

670
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: This is a classic, like you're still a young person,

671
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: but you're definitely transitioning into traditional mom territory of like

672
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: me driving you occasionally to your doctor's supportments, you not

673
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: knowing what apps are on your phone.

674
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: I listen, it's not It's not because I'm not capable.

675
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't feel like it. I just

676
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming to me and I'm lazy, and I just

677
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: don't feel like it. Like I remember we were talking

678
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: about yesterday on Lawrence. We did a live stream with

679
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: a name Time Crime yesterday. Can I still see that?

680
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go on Primetime Crimes YouTube tube or

681
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: Popcrime dot TVs YouTube and watch our live stream for yesterday.

682
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, So we were talking about when when I

683
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: got started with everything and Maria, I had went up

684
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: to Maria and said, like, Hey, what's Instagram. It's because

685
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have social media and I was thirty some

686
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: years old already. I was just like, how do you

687
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: work this thing? What do you do, and like I

688
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: would be if I didn't do the Instagram thing and

689
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: that never went off for me, I would have been

690
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: totally fine not having social media and living my life

691
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: without it, like you know what I mean, It's just

692
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: that's just how I am, So I am lazy. I

693
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: definitely Instagram's a lot for me in itself. I definitely

694
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: don't want to go on Twitter x or whatever and

695
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: TikTok and every other thing to be on there.

696
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: You know, well, I think that's easy for your generation

697
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: because you guys, you know, didn't have it until you

698
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 2: were older. And I definitely We've talked about this before,

699
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: like I definitely feel that I have this mild addiction

700
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: with going on it at all times, and I'm really

701
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: trying to work this year on not being on it

702
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: all day long like I was last year. I mean,

703
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: and even my screen time wasn't that horrible. There's people

704
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: that have screen times it's like eight hours a day

705
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: just on one of these apps, which is it?

706
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: You No, it's nuts. And that that was what was

707
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: so great about our trip because we would drive like

708
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: ten hours a day when we took our road trip

709
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, and Gabe can't be on his

710
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: phone while he's driving. I talked to him the entire time,

711
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: or we listened to a book, and it's awesome. I

712
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: just looked out the window and just like chill, Like

713
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm used to be able to, like self, calm myself

714
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: when I don't have a phone, because I know how

715
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: to survive without it. Didn't have anything like that until

716
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: we were in our twenties, you know. So yeah, like

717
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really, I don't care about it

718
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: like that.

719
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I agree, but I guess we'll circle

720
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: back to what we were talking about. So, like, it

721
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: just really disturbing to me that not only this kid's

722
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: going to his school and shooting in the cafe, but

723
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: also just the need to live stream it as this

724
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: like doubling down of what's going on. The shooter ended

725
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: up taking his life after all of this was said

726
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: and done, and I think this is horrible. It's like, you,

727
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: you know, two people are dead, he killed one student,

728
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: he killed himself. Three other kids are seriously injured, and

729
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: then every single child at dead school is traumatized for

730
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: the rest of their life. There's more with the social

731
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: media with this story too. Apparently, he had a manifesto

732
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: that was posted on Instagram, which got taken down, but

733
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: like not before everybody got screenshots of it. So if

734
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: you guys just want to start X, it's on there.

735
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: For sure. I will never repeat the things on there

736
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: because they're just terrible. But it's interesting because it appears

737
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: that the kid's black, but he was an inceel and

738
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: he was in these in cell groups online and all

739
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: these forums, and also in these gore groups that not

740
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: not really talked about. I don't know why they call

741
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: it a gore forum because it was more like a

742
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: a crime because people that typically like to look at gore,

743
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: they'll just be like, oh, I want to see a

744
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: person that got hit by a car and is smeared

745
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: all over the sidewalk or something like that. They're not

746
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: talking about murdering people. This is like a murdering people forum.

747
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: So it's like there's forums that have this then. So

748
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: someone from the Anti Defamation League, it was quoted in

749
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: this article, is saying that sometimes in these in cell forums,

750
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: when there's people of color, they're told the only reason

751
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: that their insuls is because of their color, so it

752
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: pushes them towards an other extreme ideology, and apparently during

753
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: that time he picked up anti semitism and was posting

754
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: a lot of anti black content and internal racism. So

755
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: you could imagine this manifesto is just it's just disturbing

756
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: what it says. And I won't be surprised if he

757
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: has some kind of underlying mental illness, because it seems

758
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: very scattered brain the way that it's written. But these

759
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: things were all on so media and are now taken

760
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: down because but people were able to find them after

761
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: this happened, which means they've been there and and anybody

762
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: talking about murdering people and these kinds of these kinds

763
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: of racist things and all this stuff. And he was

764
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: saying in some of them that he was so miserable

765
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: he wanted to kill himself and he spends all day

766
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: disassociating like he was. He put it out there for

767
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: the world to see. So and this stuff was up

768
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: for a while before the shooting. Yeah, well people, I

769
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: know some ex accounts that have screenshot it and they

770
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: have it, so it got taken down afterwards, but it

771
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: was there. But it's not like he just posted all

772
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: of this the morning of No. Now it's been there

773
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: because I'm concerned too at the fact that you know

774
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: certain people are seeing these posts, and why are they

775
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: not being reported, or if they are being reported, why

776
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: aren't they see the people that are seeing the posts

777
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: are in the groups with him, Like when I hear

778
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: their shootings at school, like I I ignore it. We

779
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: don't even report all of them. I just like I

780
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: felt like this one was a little bit different to report,

781
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: especially because of all of the online stuff. But like

782
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: I ignore the stories in the news because I just

783
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: like I just don't want to think about that, Like

784
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: I have to send my kids to school there in school,

785
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: and like I just don't want to think about it.

786
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: Well and antily, it's just really hard to go there,

787
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: and they're just happening so frequently that it's like you,

788
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: I feel like if you really processed every single one,

789
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: you'd have almost no quality of life because it's so disturbing.

790
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: But let's get onto this next story. Back in the summer,

791
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: police got a call about the traffic stop involving a

792
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: school bus. So they get there and this sixty one

793
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: year old guy was the driver. His name Sean. He's

794
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: there with his sixty four year old girlfriend, Deanna, and

795
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: the bus is also strangely filled with sixteen chickens, ten ducks,

796
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: two turkeys, three dogs, a pony.

797
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: And one bull. So what do you think they're even

798
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: thinking when they get to this scene, Well, what I mean,

799
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, like why why did they have all

800
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: those animals in the bus? All right?

801
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 2: So when they were checking out their backgrounds, they basically

802
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: found out that this Sean guy had a warrant for

803
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: his arrest in West Virginia for distributing materials of himself

804
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: performing sex acts on the pony and the bull, So

805
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: he already has this warrant out for arrest. And then

806
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: as they're looking into it more, they're starting to talk

807
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: to the girlfriend and then she's describing to them that

808
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: they have all these animals in the school bus because

809
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: they had a petting zoo for children, or they were

810
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: trying to have this petting zoo for children, and they

811
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: had a number for Great, Yes, Great exactly, and they

812
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: had alleged a number for this alleged child petting zoo

813
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: on the side of the bus, which brought people to

814
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: various pornographic websites that had more pictures of this guy

815
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: in acts of bestiality. So I don't know, they worked

816
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: with they worked with the animal local animal shelter to

817
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: remove all the animals, which of course we're all in

818
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: horrible condition. They all seemed like they were starved and

819
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: had no water, and then most of them had signs

820
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: that they had been sexually abused as well.

821
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the beastiality thing is just is just so disturbing.

822
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: And when you read about this, I found some statistics

823
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: that are going to disturb you guys even more. But apparently,

824
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: based on all of this research that's done and this

825
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: is just known cases of people who've gotten arrested and

826
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: all there is, and this is worldwide, it's estimated that

827
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: five to eight percent of males engage in some sort

828
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: of beatiality. That is, that's insane. Five to eight percent

829
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: of males, that's a lot. It is a lot, and

830
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: it's three to four percent of women. And then the

831
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: interesting too in the research is that men typically go

832
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: for male animals where females go for opposite sex, So

833
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: they go for male animals too. So male animals tend

834
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: to be the most abused of all of the animals,

835
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: and the most abused animals are dogs, and the most

836
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: is dogs, and then secondary is horses is the second

837
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: most popular, and they had some other studies done that

838
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: said that best reality appears to be more common in

839
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: rural areas because kids grow up seeing animals have sex

840
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: all the time on these farms they live on and stuff,

841
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 1: and they think that as they get older that they're

842
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: more inclined to think that of an animal sexually or

843
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: something like is that this is just the statistics that

844
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: are are from a medical paper. This is not me

845
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: just saying it is. This is what they think. There's

846
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: also they also think that people that are emotionally abused

847
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: have more of an incidence of doing it, because they

848
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: said that all of the people that have been convicted

849
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: of it don't there's not a higher risk of physical

850
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: abuse with those as opposed to the rest of the population.

851
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: There's all like this, very like niche people that fit

852
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: into doing these types of things, and it's just it's

853
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: just really crazy because for us to say this out loud,

854
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: it sounds outrageous, but apparently people are doing it. And

855
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: the craziest thing is is that there's no federal laws

856
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: banning bestiality in the United States, so it depends on

857
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: what state you live in. Some people have really strict

858
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: finds of years in prison for animal abuse, and then

859
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: other ones have kind of not really many laws pertaining

860
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: to this.

861
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in this case, there was just this

862
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: severity of like him having the former warrant, him definitely

863
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: doing these acts of bestiality, the girlfriend being involved as well,

864
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: and then on top of it, all three dogs had

865
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: to be euthanized because of the assaults and the trauma

866
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: they had from them. And then they said one duck,

867
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: one chicken, and one turkey also died because of diminished

868
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: health being in their care. So a Sean and Indiana

869
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: have been charged with over two hundred and fifty or

870
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: they face over two hundred and fifty charges and it's

871
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: so sick.

872
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: They said that there were videos of him performing sex

873
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: acts with this with these two animals, and he was

874
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: sending these explicit pictures to kids. Yeah, like, I mean,

875
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you even say about about

876
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: a person that does something like this. It's just when

877
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: I was reading about when I was reading this medical paper,

878
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: we're I'm actually so surprised about this. We're gonna write

879
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: about this in the gross room at some point within

880
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: the next month about beast reality just the history of

881
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: it and what's currently going on and just what people

882
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: are doing there. They were telling these stories about these

883
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: like sex parties involving horses and stuff that people are

884
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: just like, Oh, it's just it's just normal, Like that's

885
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: just what we do here. There was a guy that

886
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: died got he got his coal in perforated by a horse.

887
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: Penis How outrageous is that? So I'm like, we need

888
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: to talk about this more because it's just it's just crazy.

889
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: It's just happening way more than you would ever think.

890
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: And that's one of the more to serve it things.

891
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: So they're saying up to eight percent of the population

892
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: of men.

893
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: I still don't like, A part of me is sickly

894
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: interested to just see how the like a horse is.

895
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how you how you could get

896
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: a horse to agree to that, Like, I don't know,

897
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: it's just well, they're certainly not agreeing to it. Well

898
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: they are agreeing to it if they're they're like, I

899
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: don't think that they're putting a gun to their head

900
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: to do it, like they're a hold a horse down.

901
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: A horse cannot consent to having sex with a human being,

902
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: like they're but like it's.

903
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Doing it, like this is what it doesn't get hold

904
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: it freaking chihuahua down. You can't hold a horse. A

905
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: horse is like ye four pounds or whatever. That it's

906
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing you've ever said. You it really look

907
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: at a horse and look where they're penis is how

908
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: do you have sex with it?

909
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: He doesn't know that it's a human versus another horse

910
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: that should be having sex with it's a horse.

911
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: I understand that it's a horse, but like it's not

912
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: doing it. It's it's you're not holding it down. That's

913
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, but it's still

914
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: against You don't know that. You don't know that you're

915
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: not in a horse's brain. I can't even believe this

916
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: is a conversation. Can we please move on? Okay?

917
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: Medical news, a state senator in Mississippi has filed a

918
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: bill entitled the Contraception Begins at Erection Act. So can

919
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: you explain exactly what this entails?

920
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: When I when I first heard this, I was like,

921
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: this is so outrageous. So he's basically saying this Mississippi

922
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: politician is saying that when a person discharges genetic material

923
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: without the intent to fertilize an embryo, that that should

924
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: be against the law.

925
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think I have a hard time

926
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: with this because I think if you have sex, you

927
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: have to understand that that could result in a baby, right,

928
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: and you need to take responsibility if that happens.

929
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: So is that what he's trying to say? Yeah, Like,

930
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I think I think that he agrees that this law

931
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: is outrageous, But I kind of like the point he's making,

932
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: which is all of these laws like abortion and this,

933
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: and that they all affect women and men are fifty

934
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: percent of the equation. Like, women don't just end up

935
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: getting pregnant by themselves, right, Yeah, So if I'm reading

936
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: this right, it seems so you get charged one thousand

937
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: dollars for the first offense, and then five thousand dollars

938
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: for the second offense, and then ten thousand dollars for

939
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: the third offense. So let's say, for example, that a

940
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: girl gets pregnant and she wants to get an abortion.

941
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 1: I guess if she reports this guy, then she could

942
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: get one thousand dollars from him. Is that how because

943
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: he was in equal because he was an equal participant.

944
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: But then if this guy.

945
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: Is anybody that gets pregnant by accident, a man's gonna

946
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: get fined.

947
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: That's why I'm confused. Yeah, just in Yeah, it is

948
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: because a man understands that when he sticks his penis

949
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: in someone, he could get her pregnant. So even if

950
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: it's an accident, he's getting her pregnant. Listen, it makes

951
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense because like if a girl

952
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: gets pregnant by accident, she's still pregnant, still has to

953
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: deal with it. So so regardless of like if it

954
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: was an accident, it was intentional, whatever, like, it's still

955
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: her problem. It's always the woman's problem. So do you understand. So, like,

956
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: let's say this guy does this three times and he

957
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: gets told on three times, then he would have to

958
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: pay ten thousand dollars. Like they're trying to make people

959
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: like maybe men especially be like, oh, if there's consequences

960
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: to my actions, maybe I won't just be like common

961
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: inside every girl and getting are pregnant, making her deal

962
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: with it, you know what I mean? No, I agree

963
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: with that.

964
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm confused about who qualifies for it

965
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: because you know, uh, people in committed relationships and marriages,

966
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: even could get pregnant by accidents, So are those people

967
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: punishable too, or only people that are reported and don't

968
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: want to claim responsibility for said child that result in

969
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 2: their action.

970
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is like this is

971
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. This is just us talking to it's

972
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: not going anywhere.

973
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 2: But I'm totally for them making men more responsible because

974
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: it should not lay on the woman one hundred percent,

975
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: and dudes are just shooting it off and women deal

976
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: with no consequences at all having kids they don't even

977
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: know about, so like they should they should have consequences

978
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 2: because they would stop doing it if they got punished

979
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: for it.

980
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: So there, So they're saying that the exceptions to this

981
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: law are if you donate or sold your sperm to

982
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: a facility for the purpose of future procedures to fertilize

983
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: an embryo. So that means like, if you're donating to

984
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: a sperm bank, you wouldn't be considered to be breaking

985
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: the law. And then two discharged with the use of

986
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: a contraceptive or contraceptive method intended to prevent fertilization of

987
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: an embryo. So if the guy listen, this is exactly

988
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: how they could never ever put this law forth. He's

989
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: saying that if the guy used a condom, but that's

990
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: what he said, she said situation exactly, Like if he

991
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: used the condom and he tried to stop it from happening,

992
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: then then it wouldn't be considered breaking the law because

993
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: he tried to use birth control. The other thing that's

994
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: not written here is like what about men that have

995
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital and give a specimen for

996
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: infertility issues or something like that or any kind of

997
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: because it says donated or sold. Like technically, if you're

998
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: going to the hospital to give a sperm sample, you're

999
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: not donating it or selling it. But it's a loophole

1000
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: like for the just to get a diagnosis or if

1001
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: you're posts besectomy or something like that, you know what

1002
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that would be considered and then really

1003
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: like any guy that ever jerked off, it would be

1004
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: considered like it it's just kind of outrageous. There's no

1005
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: way this is getting passed. There's no way they can

1006
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: enforce this. Why don't they just make it equal for

1007
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: every single person that has a child and then we

1008
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about who said what because it's

1009
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: not I think the point is is that, well that's

1010
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: a whole other point, the whole child support it and

1011
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: when when a kid's born, but like before the kid's born,

1012
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: they're just trying to He's trying to emphasize that like

1013
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: this shouldn't you know, to shult and all fall on

1014
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: the woman to deal with. But like that that's what

1015
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know, it shouldn't.

1016
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: But I feel like this is going to be more

1017
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: harmful because then every single guy is gonna be like, well,

1018
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: I use the condom or she said she was on

1019
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: birth control, and then it's gonna No, I don't think.

1020
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: If it's she said she was on birth control, it

1021
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: was if the guy did something to prevent the birth

1022
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: control that use the birth control. There's nothing say to

1023
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: prove it. Yeah, I don't know. But I love the

1024
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: name of this bill though, because its contraception begins at

1025
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: erection bill. Listen. I think the idea of it is

1026
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: really good.

1027
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: I think men need to have more responsibility for being

1028
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: irresponsible when they're having sex and it results in pregnancy.

1029
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: And it's bullshit that women are one hundred percent responsible

1030
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: and then get punished for certain aspects of it. But

1031
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't ever see how this is going to be enforced,

1032
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna end up causing more stress

1033
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: for the woman that's pregnant.

1034
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get on to this next story because this

1035
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: is really interesting.

1036
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: In Tampa, this guy said he adopted a quote carnivore

1037
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: diet where he exclusively ate between six pounds and nine

1038
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: pounds of cheese, sticks of butter, and daily hamburgers that

1039
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: had additional fat incorporated to them. So at first, he

1040
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: was saying that it was beneficial because he did lose

1041
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: weight and he had more energy and more mental clarity. However,

1042
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: he started to develop an unusual.

1043
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: Condition, so he showed up at his doctor because he

1044
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: had these unusual yellow marks all over his hands, and

1045
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: the doctor did some testing and found out that his

1046
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: cholesterol level was one thousand, and normally it should be

1047
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: around two forty and his was one thousand, So his

1048
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: cholesterol was extremely high. And what happens is when you

1049
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: have that much fat inside of the blood, it could

1050
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: leak outside of the blood vessels, and these little cells

1051
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: that are called macrifages, which were there to clean up

1052
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: dirt and bacteria, they also can clean up some of

1053
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: this fat. But when they're engulfing that much fat from

1054
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: such a high cholesterol level, they are the fat globules

1055
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: are getting larger and larger inside of the cells, and

1056
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: then they turn into these cells called foam cells, and

1057
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: then you could see them deposited into the skin. And

1058
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: what you're looking at right here in his hands, these

1059
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: yellow deposits are actually cholesterol deposits, which are called xantholasma.

1060
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: And it is a condition that you see when people

1061
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: have really high cholesterol levels.

1062
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: So what can you do to treat this at this

1063
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: point since it's so high? Will he just go on

1064
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: medication or is this irreversible?

1065
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: Yes he could. Well, there's all this debate about because

1066
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: obviously when you have high cholesterol levels there is an

1067
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: increased risk of having cardiovascular disease associated with that. But

1068
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: then there's also this other school thought that people think

1069
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: that maybe cholesterol levels should be a little bit higher

1070
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: because the fats may out of or the brain is

1071
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: made out of fat, and it is better to have

1072
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: a little bit more fat in your diet. But a

1073
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: thousand I think that most medical professionals would agree, is

1074
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: just this guy's like literally going to have a hamburger,

1075
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: lodged in his coronary arteries and have a heart attack,

1076
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: you know. So this doesn't happen to every single person

1077
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: on a carnivore diet, so there has to be more

1078
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: studies done to see why it happens to some people

1079
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: and not other people. But it's really interesting. He already

1080
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: had a semi high cholesterol before he started, So before

1081
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: he started, and he's a young guy. He was only

1082
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: in his forties, and before he started, his cholesterol was

1083
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: between two ten and three hundred, so actually it really

1084
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: wasn't that high, just slightly elevated towards the end. But

1085
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: now being a thousand, he's going to have to I mean, luckily,

1086
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: if he just stops eating like this, it'll it will

1087
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: literally drop back down. But I don't think that he

1088
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: should start taking medication. But the negative part of it

1089
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: is is that this carnivor diet was doing well for him.

1090
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: He lost weight, and he said he was having a

1091
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: clear a clearer mentality. A lot of people that do

1092
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: the carnivorre diet say that they have less inflammation and

1093
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: all this stuff. So I don't know what his doctor

1094
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: is going to suggest to him for this particular circumstance

1095
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: because he feels great, but this clearly isn't great. Just

1096
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: look at the pictures it's deposited in his skin.

1097
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 2: Well, it's all about balance in all these special diets, right,

1098
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: So like obviously it's not working out in some regards,

1099
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: So he has to find the balance in between all

1100
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: the benefits he's seeing and then not having these like

1101
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: yellow things coming out of him.

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00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if there's really balance in a

1103
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: diet like this because you have to you have to

1104
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: put yourself into keytosis and you're you're doing this on purpose,

1105
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: to this extreme thing to make your body react in

1106
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: a certain way. So I'm not really I'm not really

1107
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: sure like what the solution is for this guy. Yeah, Okay,

1108
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: other death news.

1109
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: So in November, this chick went to the DMV in

1110
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Maryland to renew her driver's LESSNSE and to her surprise,

1111
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: found out that she was declared dead.

1112
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: This story is really scary actually, so this this case

1113
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: is just so outrageous. What happened was this random person

1114
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: died at a funeral home and when they submitted the

1115
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Social Security number of the person that died to the government,

1116
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: they must have had a typo and they typed it

1117
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: off only one number wrong, and that number so happened

1118
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: to be this woman who we're talking about right now.

1119
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: So Social Security got winn that her Social Security number

1120
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: that person was dead, so they essentially wiped her off

1121
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: the planet. Like she can't get a driver's lacense. They

1122
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: keep telling her that it appears that she looks like

1123
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: she's dead and she's having a hard time just you

1124
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: would think you could call them and explain this simple mistake,

1125
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: but it's not like that for her. It's being it's

1126
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: absolutely terrible nightmare for her.

1127
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: It's been no and I mean her health insurance has

1128
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: subsequently been canceled because of this. Then she received a

1129
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: letter from the IRS saying she was the deceased taxpayer.

1130
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the government doesn't have a system in

1131
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: place where you have to have all these different identifiable

1132
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: features in the confirm that is the deceased person. Because

1133
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about when I even log into my student loans,

1134
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: I have to put in my social and my birthday

1135
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: after I put my username and password, or just when.

1136
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: You pay a bill online, you have to put your

1137
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: bank accounts twice, Like they just don't say, like, make

1138
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: sure if it's this terrible when it goes through wrong,

1139
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: Like the Social Security Office put out a statement that

1140
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: said they have three million deaths reported a year and

1141
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: they have no problems, which I don't believe because if

1142
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: you've ever dealt with Social Security, they're the worst people

1143
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: on earth.

1144
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Please, Yeah, they don't have any problems. And this happened

1145
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: to it every time, Yes, every time you deal with them,

1146
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: it's a problem. Like it happened to another woman in

1147
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. She said she ended up losing her home.

1148
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: She couldn't get a mortgage or anything. She said, everything

1149
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: has been stripped from me, unblocked as it would be.

1150
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: You can't get anything. So this particular woman, the one

1151
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: that you're talking about right now, had to get her

1152
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: name changed and everything, right, Yeah.

1153
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: She had to change her name, She had to get

1154
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: a new Social Security number. I mean, how are you

1155
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: even proving that? And then that probably takes years to

1156
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: go through.

1157
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they can't just give it back

1158
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: to you. Why do you need a new one? It's

1159
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: so weird.

1160
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: It's really unbelievable because I'm just thinking of you know,

1161
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: I when I changed my last name after I got married.

1162
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: It was such a hassle. So to have somebody legally

1163
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: declare me dead by accident and have to undo all

1164
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: that shit. Why does she have to change her name?

1165
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: Why does she have to change her social This is

1166
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 2: not HER's That's exactly I had.

1167
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was, but I remember

1168
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: there was like a huge issue with me getting my

1169
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: when it was when I get married. It's funny because

1170
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: most dudes, if you're healthy and stuff like, you don't

1171
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: ever have to go to Social Security until you're an

1172
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: old person, and like, unless you're changing your name, it's

1173
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: the only time you have to go really and deal

1174
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: with it. And that's and every single person that I

1175
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: talked to has some kind of issue there, you know.

1176
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: So that and it's a government ran thing, So why

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: would you ever believe that things run smoothly. I don't know.

1178
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: I feel bad for this chick though, like it it's

1179
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: almost I guess it's equivalent to having your identity stolen.

1180
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: But it's even worse because like think about government did it? Yeah, well,

1181
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: like just with health insurance and stuff, though, like nobody's

1182
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: gonna give you stuff if you're dead. A credit card

1183
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: or anything like that.

1184
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: You know, well, I mean, somebody has to be responsible

1185
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: for this if she incurs any bills or any damages

1186
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: and the time in between that happened and her getting

1187
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: it fixed. Either the funeral home needs to take responsibility

1188
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: for the error or the government needs to make right

1189
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: on that, because they should have a system in place

1190
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: that this is nearly impossible to happen, which they might,

1191
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: but I find it hard to believe that, you know,

1192
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: they lined up her identity perfectly and accidentally declared her

1193
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: did and we don't even know if it was a

1194
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: person locally to her, or like a totally random person

1195
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: in another part of the country that just had a

1196
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: similar social to her one digit difference.

1197
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't really know about this because I've

1198
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: never I guess this is strictly for funeral home things.

1199
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about the system that you submit to.

1200
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: I would think that you have to put like name data, birth,

1201
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: social Security number and stuff, but I like that would

1202
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: make sense, so I don't know that's the case. I mean,

1203
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 1: if if this happened to like another person, they could

1204
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: take this as an opportunity to be like, well, see

1205
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm gonna go move to another country, it

1206
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: start a better life somebody else off the grid. I

1207
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: don't know. This just it's really shitty.

1208
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: And she was just trying to do the right thing,

1209
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: doing something everybody in this country has to do every

1210
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: couple of years, which is just simply redo your driver's license.

1211
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: And now this whole Pandora's box of problems open for her.

1212
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: It sucks. Hm hmm, all right.

1213
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: So in Pennsylvania, poliska a call to do a welfare

1214
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: check on this sixty four year old man, and when

1215
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: they got to his house, they found him severely decomposed

1216
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: and also fact, like you're gonna say severely dead, he

1217
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: was severely dead and decomposed. And even worse, his family

1218
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: was coming and going from his home, staying there overnight,

1219
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: staying for extended periods of time.

1220
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: Well, so, to their defense, they lived in a hoarded situation,

1221
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: so those typically smell terrible. Maybe they just were like,

1222
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: oh God, there's a dead animal under this pile of stuff,

1223
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: or poop from an animal or something. I don't know

1224
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: what they were thinking. You've smelled decomp Is it not

1225
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: completely different from everything? It is completely different from every

1226
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: other spell in the world. But like also they're living

1227
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: in a hoarded condition. Like people people have limits of

1228
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: what they want, Like I don't want to smell that

1229
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: in my house, but I also don't want shoes on

1230
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: the floor in my house, you know what I mean,

1231
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: Like people live different. People don't care, they don't you know.

1232
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think now they're just kind of like, Okay,

1233
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: this might be a situation where they were completely aware

1234
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: of what was happening, but like they're trying to financially

1235
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: gain off this guy, whether he's still getting checks in

1236
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: the mail or whatever it is.

1237
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, like they don't suspect any foul play,

1238
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: but they definitely think, you know, they were taking advantage

1239
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: of using the property or his finances. I'm assuming he

1240
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: was getting checks in the mail or something, and they

1241
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: were probably just kind of even if he just owned

1242
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: the house and they needed somewhere to crash. I mean, listen,

1243
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: like this is beyond disgusting and weird. Don't get me wrong,

1244
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't understand how you could especially they're saying it

1245
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: was like severely decomposed six months. I'm thinking, like it's

1246
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: partially like skeletonized remains. It probably smells terrible, might not

1247
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: depending on the conditions that it's in. I don't know,

1248
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you, like, if you've ever been to

1249
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 2: a hoarded house, like a legitimate one, people, if you

1250
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: ever even watch the show Hoarders, you could see that,

1251
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: like the people wear respirator masks in there and stuff.

1252
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: It's it's terrible. So it's not I'm not saying that

1253
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have smelled it, but like it could have

1254
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: already smelled if you go in a situation where there's

1255
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: a lot of animals living in feces and stuff, as

1256
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: it is, like, it smells really terrible, so that smell

1257
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: on top of it wouldn't be sticking out as much,

1258
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1259
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: The complete contrast from the story right before this of

1260
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: this totally alive woman being declared dead and just not

1261
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: being able to get a driver's license and heavy hair

1262
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: health insurance canceled, and then this severely dead person as

1263
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: you like to say, not being declared dead in his

1264
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: family taking.

1265
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: All his money is insane.

1266
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. All right, Let's move on to

1267
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at mothers

1268
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Death Instagram account, you guys could head over to our

1269
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: story and ask us whatever questions you want. Is there

1270
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: any prep work you guys need to do before an autopsy.

1271
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: Yes, to an extent, Like we especially in the hospital,

1272
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: we would always look at a chart. We have to

1273
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: make sure that the permissions are filled out correctly, the

1274
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: body is in the refrigerator. There's all sorts of different

1275
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: things that need to go on before you actually start,

1276
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: because sometimes we would get an autopsy permission form and

1277
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: the body was like still up on the floor with

1278
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: the family or something like that, and then we need

1279
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: to make sure the permission form is filled out correctly,

1280
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: like the proper Mexican has given permission. Everything matches all

1281
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: the medical record numbers, data births, not social Security numbers,

1282
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: but we have a bunch of numbers that we match up.

1283
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: And then we usually look through the patient's chart, and

1284
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: sometimes that could take a long time because like the

1285
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: best ones are people that come in and die the

1286
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: next day, but they don't really have much of a chart.

1287
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: But there's people that are in the hospital for months

1288
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: and their chart is like a big bible, huge thick

1289
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: thing that you really have to go through and figure out,

1290
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: like get a picture of what was going on before

1291
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 1: they died, so that would be the prep work. Does

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Speaker 1: Maria also work in forensics? Well, technically, neither of us

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Speaker 1: work in forensics, because you did more natural pathology. And

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Speaker 1: I have no.

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Speaker 2: Connection to this industry whatsoever besides you and being a

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Speaker 2: true crime fan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean technically, technically you do a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You don't work in the field, but you're definitely immersed

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Speaker 1: in the field as far as writing about it. And

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Speaker 1: if you would talk about certain people like Patricia Cornwell

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Speaker 1: or something like that, she's a writer, right, she probably

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Speaker 1: was an English major. But also she knows a lot

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Speaker 1: about forensics, right, she writes about it all the time,

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Speaker 1: and she's really good at it. So just in a

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Speaker 1: different kind of part of the field. I would say for.

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Speaker 2: You, yeah, I'm more I don't even know the proper

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Speaker 2: term for I would say, I'm more like a reporter

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Speaker 2: of sorts or a writer of sorts, right, But I

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Speaker 2: have no formal training or background in it. I'm just

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan that likes to research and write about it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and I have formal training in it, but

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Speaker 1: I don't prefer to work in forensics. I prefer natural pathology. Last,

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Speaker 1: who do you guys make fun of the most in

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Speaker 1: your family. Mom. She's just such an easy target.

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Speaker 2: I mean she also you know, people are like, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of messed up that you're always making fun of

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Speaker 2: your grandmom, and I'm like, it's really not, because she

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Speaker 2: really set up this family dynamic of us all busting

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Speaker 2: each other's balls off.

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Speaker 1: We've made fun of her forever since, like Louis started talking, But.

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Speaker 2: She set it up because she makes fun of us.

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Speaker 2: She makes fun of her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an easy target and her reaction is good,

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Speaker 1: Like she doesn't really get mad, she just gets like.

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Speaker 2: No, like I asked them, I mean, we make fun

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Speaker 2: of her everything. If you've listened to the show beyond

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Speaker 2: this episode, you know, we make fun of her all

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Speaker 2: the time. And then something over the week No, something

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Speaker 2: that happened a couple days ago. I asked her over

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Speaker 2: the weekend if they wanted to watch the next Eagles

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Speaker 2: game at our house this weekend. And then I found

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Speaker 2: that hilarious meme that was like Grandma's when they don't

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Speaker 2: have enough attention, and it was the Princess.

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Speaker 1: Bride throwing herself down the hill. And I sent that

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Speaker 1: to her.

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Speaker 2: She said, maybe I'll do this Sunday instead of come

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Speaker 2: into your house. So we're always you know, it's ruthless

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Speaker 2: in this family environment. If you're ever at a family dinner,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty intense because it just is going back and

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Speaker 2: forth with everybody at all times.

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Speaker 1: It is funny because like sometimes I don't see my

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Speaker 1: brother for a couple months in a row, and I'll

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Speaker 1: see them and then he'll come up to me, and

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Speaker 1: then five minutes later he'll be like, did you hear

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Speaker 1: what mommy did?

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Speaker 3: Or like it's always like every conversation and then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: there's never a gap, and like I and my brother's

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Speaker 3: not a text either, so it's like he might text

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Speaker 3: me back like one word.

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Speaker 1: In three months. I don't talk to them on the phone,

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Speaker 1: I don't see them or nothing. And then it's like

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Speaker 1: right back to normal because something my mom did and

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Speaker 1: we're like what the hell and me and she's always

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Speaker 1: sitting right there. It's not like we're talking behind her back.

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Speaker 2: And whenever she does something, and Gabe does it too,

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Speaker 2: and my kid my little ones do it too, and

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Speaker 2: my nephew does it too. They have like songs they

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Speaker 2: sing about my mom and and everything. They like make

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Speaker 2: fun of my mom, the little ones do.

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Speaker 1: And whenever she does something embarrassing and I'm telling Ricky

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Speaker 1: about it, I'll say, your grandmother did.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: She she's just the easiest target. But we're all, we're all.

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Speaker 1: Really he calls her your grandmom.

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Speaker 2: No, he calls her BEF. Well, pop up, lou QUILTERII,

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Speaker 2: my pop up. Your dad pronounces her name as b

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Speaker 2: e F, so we jokingly call her bef. So that's

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Speaker 2: what he calls her.

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Speaker 1: Gabe calls her momm.

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Speaker 2: I think if she had kids, he would probably refer

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Speaker 2: to her as because Gabe didn't call that until you

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Speaker 2: guys had Lillian and Louis. Yeah, so that makes more sense.

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Speaker 2: But no, we just call her biff. It is her name,

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Speaker 2: but it's also funny.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you guys for submitting some stories

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 2: That's where the Beast Reality Bus story came from. So

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Speaker 2: we love the listeners submitted stories. And if you have

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Speaker 2: a personal story, please submit it to Stories that Mother

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Speaker 2: knowosdeath dot com.

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Speaker 1: I also beg you please stop asking questions.

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Speaker 2: About ghosts in the Friday Questions story because we don't

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Speaker 2: really we're not super into ghost and there's more fun questions,

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Speaker 2: haven't I haven't I answered this a million times? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and every week let me tell you guys, questions about

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Speaker 2: all right, let me tell you guys the story really

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Speaker 2: quick then so I could so I could end the

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Speaker 2: ghost questions. I So I used to work with the

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Speaker 2: guy in the histology lab, which is the lab that

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Speaker 2: makes the slides for us and on this So he's

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Speaker 2: a histologist, but on the side he was a ghost hunter, okay,

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Speaker 2: And one day, so it was me and Friday, you know,

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Speaker 2: my autopsy partner, Frank, who's almost eighty years old. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is when we were working together, like fifteen years

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Speaker 2: ago or whatever, and he would he would come up

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Speaker 2: to us and ask us like if he could come

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Speaker 2: around with his weird Geiger counter thing or whatever that

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Speaker 2: thing is that clicks, and he's like, do you ever

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Speaker 2: there's so many spirits in here to you guys. And

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Speaker 2: then I remember like Frank looking over at him.

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Speaker 1: And being like, man, get the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 1: Like it was just so funny because we and Frank, God,

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Speaker 1: he's done so many autopsies, like cause he was doing

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Speaker 1: them back in the day when there was not as

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Speaker 1: much imaging used and everything like that he's done thousands

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Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of autopsies. It's what he's done

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Speaker 1: his entire life. And he retired when he was pretty

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Speaker 1: like seventy, you know what I mean. He was pretty

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Speaker 1: old when he retired. So and we both agree that

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Speaker 1: like in any circumstance of being around dead bodies, like,

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Speaker 1: we've never had a ghost experience. And we're trying to

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Speaker 1: tell this ghost hunter guy and he's just telling us

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Speaker 1: their ghosts everywhere, and we're like, well, I guess they

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk to us. I don't know. So

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Speaker 1: so that's the end of it. There's no there's no

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Speaker 1: other there's no other drama with ghosts. Frank and I agree,

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Speaker 1: there are so many other questions to be asked, but

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Speaker 1: the ghost ones are there are so many every single week.

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Speaker 1: So that that settles it. Our ghost We settled the

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Speaker 1: ghost stories. Don't forget to leave us reviews guys too.

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Speaker 1: I guess in Spotify you could just what do you

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Speaker 1: do like a star review?

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Speaker 2: You could just leave a star review. But written reviews

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Speaker 2: really help the show grow, which gives us, you know,

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Speaker 2: better content and the ability to produce a better show.

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Speaker 1: So those definitely help yeah, and you could do that

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Speaker 1: at Apple. Is there anywhere else that they could do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's I don't think anywhere else

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Speaker 2: you could leave written reviews, but definitely hit Spotify or Apple.

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Speaker 2: We really really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. But thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: We will see you next week and check out our

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Speaker 2: live stream yesterday with Primetime Crime on you. I will

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Speaker 2: put the links to that in the episode description.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was fun, and don't forget to sign up

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Speaker 1: why you want to have dinner with Maria and I

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Speaker 1: see you Saya. Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant.

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Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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Speaker 1: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

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Speaker 1: have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

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Speaker 1: the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

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Speaker 1: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

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Speaker 1: people based on my experience working in pathology so they

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Speaker 1: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

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Speaker 1: Always remember that science is changing every day, and the

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Speaker 1: opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge

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Speaker 1: of those subjects at the time of publication. If you

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