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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: back with you. And we are in the thick of preseason, Buck,

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Speaker 1: which has given us an opportunity to take our first

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to gain from watching players

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Speaker 1: and left. He looked really good in this game. So

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Speaker 1: I was encouraged by what I saw from Desmond Ritter

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Speaker 1: NFL right now, the quarterback battle in Carolina, not only

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Speaker 1: because it's a starting quarterback, but you've got two guys

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't You don't see this type

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Speaker 1: in terms of who trotted out there week one. What

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Speaker 1: goes against everything that you would, uh say is conventional wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Sam john had been there the entire time, Sam Donna

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Speaker 1: the summer, taking all the reps or whatever. Naturally you

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Speaker 1: playing with the ones in the first preseason game, Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield is gonna be the starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: And it looks it's just a weird thing that someone

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Speaker 1: But right now, that's what we're tasking because the only

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Speaker 1: he just falls apart next week, it just seems like

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers gonna rock with Baker Mayfield as a

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Speaker 1: him out, right, Like he's got to knock him out

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Speaker 1: to win the job. It felt like Sam Donald, even

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Speaker 1: though he's the incumbent, there had to be you know,

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Speaker 1: it had to be. It had to be it had

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Speaker 1: to be so lops side. If anything was remotely close,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go with Baker Mayfield because frankly, he's new

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Speaker 1: and fresh and they don't know what they have with him.

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Speaker 1: They might feel like they know Sam and know what

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Speaker 1: he is, even though they feel like he's got growth potential.

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Speaker 1: But I think if it's close, it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. And the fact that through the training camp

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Speaker 1: portion thus far that he trots out there with the ones,

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Speaker 1: and you can say they both played well right well

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Speaker 1: in order for Sam to get that job, But almost

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Speaker 1: feels like Baker has to tank it. Sam has to

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Speaker 1: play at a high level. That gap has to be

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Speaker 1: so wide for Sam to win this job. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's kind of stacked against him. Yeah, I do

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Speaker 1: absolutely believe that it's stacked against him, and so it's Look,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things. And you know what, what

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Speaker 1: what Sam can continue to do is play well when

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Speaker 1: he gets his opportunity, because by all accounts, he played

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Speaker 1: pretty well when he had his chance. But right now

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Speaker 1: and appears that Baker Mayfield is in the league, and

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Speaker 1: unless he absolutely falls apart down the stretch, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a starting quarterback when the Cleveland when

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns played the Carolina Panthers down the line,

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Speaker 1: team as the number one for the Panthers. And look, again,

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Speaker 1: both guys played well. Both guys did a nice job.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're Baker Mayfield right now, it's been

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Speaker 1: said by coach rule. After the second preseason game was

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Speaker 1: when this decision was going to be made. Again, I

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Speaker 1: use the boxing analogy, like he just got to run

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Speaker 1: around the ring and not not get knocked out, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just no big mistakes, just dancing around. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna stay. That's it, you know, don't don't have a

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Speaker 1: three turnover, no three turnover game. Okay, just just hey,

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Speaker 1: hand the ball off. That's it. It's a flo He's

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Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather at this point in time. Hey, just hey,

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Speaker 1: you already you racked up the points. You already at

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Speaker 1: the points. You're gonna win the system. Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that, that's literally, that's what it is. Um, he's

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Speaker 1: done it. And I think DJ to me, the thing

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Speaker 1: that was telling was before we even got to this

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Speaker 1: they talked to Baker Mayfield the camp confidence that he displayed.

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, this dude, this this is quite confidently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that this is my job. Sam was talking about, oh,

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Speaker 1: we gotta compete, we gotta do this, and Baker was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, I got it. We're good. Let's go back.

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Speaker 1: Because he's seen the scorecard. He already saw the scorecard.

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Speaker 1: He knows where everything is, where everything lies. So look

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Speaker 1: the good news for Sam. I think Sam and already say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you only get so many opportunities. He'll get another one

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Speaker 1: if he continues to play well here. He's a high pick. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: you know, most everybody loved him coming into the draft process.

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Speaker 1: He he'll he might have to do the Mitchell Trabiskie

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Speaker 1: thing where this year is kind of like that between

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Speaker 1: year and then next year you get a chance. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he goes next year and maybe it's one more year

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Speaker 1: of sitting behind somebody. He's going to get another shot

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Speaker 1: at this thing. Yeah, working his game, because here's the

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Speaker 1: thing about Sam Donad. His personality is such that people

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Speaker 1: won't mind carrying him as a backup quarterback until he

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Speaker 1: has an opportunity. What he needs to would tell them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would tell him a ball out in these preseason games.

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Speaker 1: Don't allow the circumstances to take away. You enjoy it

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Speaker 1: and comes with playing, So still play the game like

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Speaker 1: you're a starter and wait for your time. And if

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Speaker 1: you get an opportunity this year to get on the field, man,

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Speaker 1: just just play. Because he has enough tape to steal

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Speaker 1: peak the interest of teams looking for a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: has some developmental potential, so you just kind of hold on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he may have to sit a little bit

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Speaker 1: as a red shirt like m Robisky did and then

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Speaker 1: kind of redo it. Uh next season. Well that's where

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Speaker 1: we have it right there. We're seeing this as a

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Speaker 1: battle that's maybe already been decided, uh in favor of

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. We'll see. All right, Buck, we are. We're

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Speaker 1: done here for today. We've got another pod coming up tomorrow. Um,

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Speaker 1: anything else you want to sneak in before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here. M pre season those find uts, I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited about it. There's nothing like watching a bunch

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Speaker 1: of preseason games where you're still trying to get your

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Speaker 1: flip card and figure out all the numbers in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter before we have a kind yeah much until

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Speaker 1: I think shrinks. Yeah, we need to. We need to

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Speaker 1: shrink it down. Shrink it down. Not a lot of

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Speaker 1: room for notes on that board as you as you're

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Speaker 1: definitely learning here in the preseason. Again, reminder you guys

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Speaker 1: can find all this Move the Sticks content on NFL's

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Speaker 1: the NFL app so lots of places where you can

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Speaker 1: take in to Move the Sticks content. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys hanging with us and we'll catch you next time

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