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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get enough of him. Job

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Speaker 2: Cactufian pren.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, come on, who's excited? Hyperbly? Yes? Self involved? I'm

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Speaker 2: not so sure. Oh, good Monday to you. Anybody else

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Speaker 2: out there have good energy on a Monday. I'm a

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Speaker 2: morning guy.

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Speaker 4: I am relatively useless and night Ken Flow, morning person,

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Speaker 4: you're up pretty early.

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Speaker 5: I'm up pretty early these days. I've been sleeping a

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Speaker 5: little bit better, but you know, sometimes up like four am, dude.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so when you pro create, you sort of.

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Speaker 4: Give up in terms of the clock, right, You just

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Speaker 4: sort of become a morning person, even if you are

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Speaker 4: not one. But it's going to be with everybody live

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Speaker 4: on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: It it's Monday.

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Speaker 4: January twenty seventh, twenty twenty five is the year. In

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Speaker 4: his episode five hundred and thirty four of the antikin

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Speaker 4: Floran Podcast, we have a ton to get to today,

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Speaker 4: albeit with a bit of a heavy heart. Today's show

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Speaker 4: is dedicated to the memory of Barb Peatree mother of

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Speaker 4: Big Gun Brian Petree, chief handicapper here on the anticin

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Speaker 4: Florian podcast. She passed away within the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 4: and we knew.

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Speaker 2: Brian was not gonna be with us today.

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Speaker 4: He probably won't be with us for our UFC three

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Speaker 4: twelve preview, but certainly we are praying and thinking about

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Speaker 4: the Peatree family today, Ken flow as we do this

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Speaker 4: episode in Barb's honorah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely and Brian wrote a beautiful post about his mother,

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Speaker 5: if you guys want to check it out, just lovely

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Speaker 5: sentiments and yeah, my heart goes out to him and

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Speaker 5: his family.

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Speaker 4: Yeah at Brian Petrie Mma, if you want to follow

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Speaker 4: the man and pay tribute to the woman behind the man.

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Speaker 4: All right, coming up today, we are absolutely loaded.

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Speaker 2: We are drunk with talent.

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Speaker 4: Will be joined by former UFC Welchway champ Tyron Woodley,

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Speaker 4: the number one overall pick in the Global Fight League

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Speaker 4: draft over the weekend. So I watched a lot of

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Speaker 4: that content. I have a lot of thoughts. I have

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Speaker 4: a lot of thoughts right. I work for the UFC,

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Speaker 4: but I got a lot of thoughts. Ray Longo is

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Speaker 4: the coach of Team New York. I'm not sure the

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Speaker 4: extent to which he knew about this initiative, but he'll

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Speaker 4: be with us shortly for his weekly Ray long minute

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Speaker 4: ESPN radios.

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Speaker 2: Josh Cohen stops by. We'll do some NFL stuff with him.

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Speaker 4: It will be the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: Eagles in Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: He will also, I believe have a.

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Speaker 4: UFC three to twelve pick for you guys later today

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Speaker 4: Leaf Well, CEO, Emily Fisher and CMO, doctor Ju and Chin.

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Speaker 2: They'll join us.

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Speaker 4: Some interesting stuff happening with sports leagues and cannabis that

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Speaker 4: we will get into with them. Also full preview, of course,

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Speaker 4: our meeting Potatoes with predictions UFC Fight Night Death San

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Speaker 4: yacht Imavov this Saturday in Saudi Arabia, and then after

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Speaker 4: this two hour live exercise is done yet more. Another

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Speaker 4: live episode today on the Anakin Florin podcast YouTube channel

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Speaker 4: live at two pm Eastern BKFC Welter wait Jeremy Lil

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Speaker 4: Heathen Stevens.

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Speaker 2: He coined the phrase cocaine connor. Over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: He also knocked out Eddie Alvarez in Eddie's native Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: We'll be live with Jeremy Stevens Little Heathen at two

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Speaker 2: All right, a lot to get into.

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Speaker 4: I have a lot to pick the brain of Ken

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Speaker 4: flow about today. Headlines is brought to you by Quervo.

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Speaker 2: Chris Delino I did not. I did not. So Shah

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Speaker 2: jumbed today as a judge today. Perhaps all right?

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Speaker 4: So UFC three to twelve is coming up here in

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Speaker 4: a little bit, and Dracus du plus c and Sean

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Speaker 4: Strickland fought to a five round decision the first time

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Speaker 4: around UFC two ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was in Canada.

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Speaker 4: Among those who thought Sean Strickland won the fight where

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Speaker 4: Joe Rogan and Dana White, a lot of us landed

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Speaker 2: Perhaps that is neither here nor there.

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Speaker 4: Now you and I are going to rewatch this fight

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Speaker 4: as part of our Anak and Florian rewind for UFC.

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Speaker 2: Fight Pass later this week.

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Speaker 4: So what is your relative degree of excitement for this

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Speaker 4: next UFC Midway Championship fight coming up at UFC three twelve.

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Speaker 4: That is our next men's title fight here and for me,

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Speaker 4: it's wheels up to Sydney in less than a week.

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Speaker 5: Well, I just watched that fight actually within the last

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Speaker 5: on it. I'll save as much as I can for

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Speaker 5: our shows moving forward. But first of all, it was

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Speaker 5: a great fight, and I think for DDP, I think

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Speaker 5: But I do feel like Strickland kind of is more

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Speaker 5: the onus is on Strickland to switch things up. I

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Speaker 5: think it's gonna be another amazing fight. Just the way

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Speaker 2: Both very durable.

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Speaker 5: They both like to move forward, so I'm really fascinated

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Speaker 5: to see what happens in the rematch.

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Speaker 2: Did you actually score it round by round when you

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Speaker 5: Or now I don't have it fresh like that?

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Speaker 4: But part of what we do for the Anaic and

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Speaker 4: Floyan rewind is to watch it back without commentary. We

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Speaker 4: of that. It also dovetails with what is happening this weekend.

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Speaker 4: It's Israel Atasanya Desanya. He'll diss Anya however you want

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Speaker 4: to pronounce it. He's in a non title fight Kenny

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Speaker 5: For this one, I feel like it's a good sign

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Speaker 2: But this is a very dangerous fight for him.

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Speaker 5: And you look at you know, is he's last few fights.

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Speaker 5: This is again, this is the worst streak he's ever had.

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Speaker 5: He's one in three last four fight. Now, of course

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Speaker 4: So I think you get prime Israel Atasnya. I think

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Speaker 4: Penn against Kenny Florian in two thousand and nine or

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Speaker 4: And we have talked a little bit about the strength

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Speaker 4: on paper, Desanya has lost three of four. How fucking

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Speaker 4: The last stylebender has lost three of his last four

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Speaker 4: a lot of exciting things there. I do believe that

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Speaker 4: that BJ Penn would have been great in bare knuckle

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Speaker 4: not allowed in bare knuckle boxing, of course, correct, right?

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Speaker 4: I know the rules set. Can anyone out there? I

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Speaker 4: guess maybe Cody or someone could chime in live? Can

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Speaker 4: you use the elbow in bare knuckle fighting championship? It

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Speaker 4: is bare knuckle fighting. You can't kick of that, I

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Speaker 4: been a pretty good bare knuckle fighter.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna show us his fist later today into the camera.

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Speaker 4: You know, Kenny's got some knuckles and you know a

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Speaker 2: I mean, your hands are pretty banged up.

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Speaker 4: BKFC Thailand fights, elbows are allowed alone. Kicks and knees

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Speaker 4: trips are not permitted. No elbows not allowed in BKFC

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Speaker 4: unless they're specifically applicable to BKFC Thailand. Good stuff there

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Speaker 4: being that by the producer Cody Merris so Ken Flow.

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Speaker 4: When you watch these absolute savages, or don't watch them,

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Speaker 4: whatever it is your desire. I'm not going to transition

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Speaker 4: to power slap after this, But what do you think

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Speaker 4: about these guys.

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Speaker 2: Competing in this endeavor?

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Speaker 4: And might you have done it, you know, for three

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty grand or so, to show you know,

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll say this, I enjoy the kind of the

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Speaker 5: be my thing, John, however, I absolutely respect it and

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Speaker 4: All right, should be a contentious Ray Longo minute today.

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Speaker 4: Let us get to the star of the show.

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Speaker 1: Now times the Ray Longo Minute. Trucks want the Ray

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Speaker 1: long Minute? John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what are we doing here? Get out here?

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Speaker 2: My goodness.

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Speaker 7: That surprised me that the fruity favor is your favorite.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you probably don't like my rainbow bracelet either,

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Speaker 4: And I don't like your disheveled look. I mean, at

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Speaker 2: You said your hair was a mess. My goodness, Raymond,

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Speaker 2: we're live, Ray.

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Speaker 5: I like the mad genius. Look, Ray, it's good, it's good.

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Speaker 5: It looks good.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Kenny, before you know, we got to hook up

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Speaker 7: later that the guys at the School of Begging for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it. Let's talk. I'm coming, I'm coming

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Speaker 6: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: Is that on the house? I mean, what are we charging?

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Speaker 2: You think this guy shows up for free?

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Speaker 6: Oh? No, we take care of our own, Johnny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you can grease him with some of that

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Speaker 6: Oh shit, I don't know what you think.

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Speaker 4: You signed up for today. But if you think this

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Speaker 6: Oh do you ever see your Hogan zero? Is that familiar?

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Speaker 6: You'll know Zeros?

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Speaker 2: Anybody one person of audience? Nothing, I see nothing, I

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian was not one of the four hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 4: You played the fifth Well, it's gonna be a short

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Speaker 2: You gotta do this to me. No, No, John, you.

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Speaker 6: Look exceptionally good. Lighting is fantastic today.

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Speaker 2: These cameras are worth more than my life.

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Speaker 6: Let me take Kenny. Look at him.

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Speaker 2: He does. He looks fantastic.

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Speaker 6: Motherfucker, Kenny, you would definitely paint your teeth.

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Speaker 2: This is these things I just ate. I was concerned

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Speaker 4: A lot of fighters get excited about the team concept,

440
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Speaker 4: especially at this stage of their careers, and the ability

441
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Speaker 4: to compete for a team ray right, like Tony Ferguson

442
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 4: when he was asked about all of this, and people

443
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 4: can look at his Wikipedia page that is bleeding with

444
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: red stripes. Right now, I understand it, right, But the

445
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 4: first thing that came out of his mouth, Kenny and

446
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: Ray was this team concept and how you know, playing

447
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 4: baseball and wrestling for a team.

448
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Speaker 2: He's excited to compete for a team.

449
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Speaker 4: And I really respect that that was the first thing

450
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Speaker 4: that came out of his mouth. So that, at least,

451
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Speaker 4: I think is a big reason to get behind this.

452
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Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred to look, Darren's heart is in the

453
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Speaker 7: right spot. He wants to do the right thing by

454
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Speaker 7: the athletes in every way, shape and form. I mean,

455
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Speaker 7: Kenny pull it off is going to be you know,

456
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Speaker 7: that's what we got to see. But his heart one

457
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 7: million percent is in the right spot. And that's why

458
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 7: you know, I like I like it, and I do

459
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Speaker 7: like the team concept. I like even the gym concept

460
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Speaker 7: Jim against Jim, I think, you know, would be awesome too,

461
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, like or each state has

462
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Speaker 7: their own people. I think it's a I think it's

463
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Speaker 7: exciting and uh, you know, if you're proud of the

464
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Speaker 7: way you live and everything like that, I think it's

465
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Speaker 7: it's a really cool concept.

466
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Speaker 4: I did a lot of preparation on this, so Ray,

467
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Speaker 4: if you'd rather talk about the MMA Junkie have line today.

468
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 4: Al Jamaine Sterling looking at April maybe versus Arnold Allen

469
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 4: or Brian Ortego. We could certainly talk about that later, right,

470
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Speaker 4: But for people who don't know the GFL, one hundred

471
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 4: and twenty fighters out of four hundred and twenty were

472
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Speaker 4: selected across six teams at launches in April, the league

473
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Speaker 4: that will quote change mixed Martial Arts forever. So twenty

474
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Speaker 4: fighters on each team and the coach for Team New

475
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Speaker 4: York is Ray Longo. Yours is the only team that

476
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Speaker 4: for manager, says TBD, Right, So who's your manager? I

477
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Speaker 4: mean I'm a Boston guy, so I certainly wouldn't even

478
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Speaker 4: throw my name into the hat, even if I was underqualified.

479
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Speaker 2: I mean just manager.

480
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Speaker 4: Thiago Alvez for Miami, Luke Barnatt for London. Vander le

481
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Speaker 4: Silva is the manager of Team La Cardio Caine Velaskez

482
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Speaker 4: managers d Buai. Do you have any idea who your

483
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Speaker 4: manager is going to be? And will you take part

484
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Speaker 4: in that selection? And is that a fair question?

485
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Speaker 6: Hey? We will just get along. Look at it. Look, Jack,

486
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Speaker 6: he doesn't want Henven make that contact with nothing? What

487
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Speaker 6: do you don't turn your head on me?

488
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Speaker 4: Well? I didn't know, maybe I should have pre screened

489
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Speaker 4: you today. So do you not know who your manager is.

490
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Speaker 6: Going to be? I know who a potential manager could be.

491
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Speaker 2: All right, you don't have to break the news, right, Okay,

492
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Speaker 2: I just found it interesting.

493
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Speaker 6: But I'll give you a guess. Who do you think

494
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Speaker 6: it would be?

495
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Speaker 2: From the Matt Sarah if you can come up with

496
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Speaker 2: a player.

497
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Speaker 6: Right, that's a good guess.

498
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: But money? All right?

499
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Speaker 6: So yeah, manager? You know, Henzo's charismatic guy one hundred percent.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he says somebody else as it gets Henzo,

501
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: he said, Henzo Gracy.

502
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Speaker 6: Oh wow.

503
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Speaker 7: So you'll have to stay tuned, and you know, make

504
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Speaker 7: sure you follow the GFL website and see who they picked.

505
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Speaker 4: Doesn't Henzo have like one hundred and ninety thousand students?

506
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 4: Like what does Henzo Gracie cost the GFL?

507
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Speaker 6: Do you know? Have you ever met Henzo?

508
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: Many times? I've called his fights.

509
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, guy's a multitask. I can he everything? He said everything,

510
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 7: He's all over the place, So I think he's actually per.

511
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Speaker 2: Right, go ahead, ken, I was gonna say.

512
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Speaker 5: You know one thing that I feel like the GFL

513
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 5: does have going for it is the nostalgic factor. Right,

514
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: the nostalgia factor where you know, guys came up in

515
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 5: that era, you know, when when I was fighting and

516
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Speaker 5: all those other guys that came before me and after me,

517
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Speaker 5: like that little era of when things just started to

518
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Speaker 5: kind of get going. You know, do you think that

519
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 5: could kind of carry people in at least to kind

520
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Speaker 5: of watch this year and kind of get behind the

521
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Speaker 5: gfl idea.

522
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, look, everybody back, we've I think we've

523
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Speaker 7: talked about like what they call it, like not a

524
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 7: league where you know, the older fighters fight each other.

525
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Speaker 6: What do they call that?

526
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: Like?

527
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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I think, uh kind of you see in

528
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 7: a little bit of that too. It could be like,

529
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Speaker 7: you know, if a lowist the matchups are right, you

530
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Speaker 7: have like a legends league too, and with some other

531
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Speaker 7: people that you know, good fighters that you know haven't

532
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Speaker 7: hit that point yet, but u we'll see.

533
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Speaker 6: So I think it's got a.

534
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Speaker 7: Little intrigued to it, It's got name value to it.

535
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 7: And you know, this isn't an easy business. I've been

536
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 7: involved in it in a long time, so I think

537
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 7: he's got the right funding behind him, it seems like,

538
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 7: and we'll see where it goes, I you know, I

539
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 7: mean I just put me in.

540
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Speaker 6: I just want to coach, that's it.

541
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Speaker 4: But do you know the extent to which you will

542
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: be coaching your athletes, Kevin Lee, Chris Widman, Holly Holm,

543
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: Dylan Dannis, Jimmy rivera Ovin, Saint Prue and Phil Hawes

544
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Speaker 4: among them.

545
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Speaker 6: No, I think.

546
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Speaker 7: But the thing is that anybody wants to come to

547
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 7: the gym, they you know, more welcome to trade at

548
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 7: the gym. But I think they'll be training with their

549
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 7: own people.

550
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Speaker 2: And that's it now.

551
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Speaker 4: Chris Wiman was sort of having fun with it when

552
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Speaker 4: he said, I can't believe Ray shows Kevin Lee number

553
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: one overall, but you didn't actually make that selection.

554
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: Is that right?

555
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 6: That's correct?

556
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: Okay, So obviously there's enough meat on the bone that

557
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: we're talking about this. You know, you can aboard mission anytime.

558
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: I hope you don't terminate our friends. But I do

559
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 4: believe there's enough here to discuss, right, I.

560
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 6: Mean, as much as I could answer.

561
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: So each fighter has revenue share. I think fifty percent

562
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: of revenue goes to the athletes. There's a lot of

563
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: good in terms of what they are trying to do here.

564
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 4: But Chris Wyman sort of forced into it or otherwise

565
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 4: announced his retirement on the UFC way In show, and

566
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Speaker 4: then eight days later was announced on this team. So

567
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Speaker 4: is it your expectation that we are going to see

568
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Speaker 4: Chris Wyman compete in mixed martial arts potentially in April

569
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Speaker 4: when this season launches.

570
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah I didn't. I mean, I know

571
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Speaker 2: ESPN tells us not to ask yes or no questions.

572
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Speaker 7: But Whiteman always was a leader, you know what I mean.

573
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Speaker 7: So I think he's going to be a great guy

574
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Speaker 7: in the locker room. I think people you know, he's

575
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 7: had his ups and downs, but I think people still

576
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Speaker 7: respect what he did and he's definitely an imposing figure.

577
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Speaker 6: Still.

578
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Speaker 7: I think he'll be a great guy to, you know, people,

579
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Speaker 7: you know, to inspire some people.

580
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Speaker 4: I know Ray hates me right now, but I do

581
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: think it'd be interesting if we see you and Widman

582
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: in the corners, you know, when Kevin Lee competes, potentially

583
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: if you're if you're an added corner man, right, I

584
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: think that would be really interesting to see.

585
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: As an m m A fan. Right, I'm talking about

586
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: this because I'm an mm A fan. Right.

587
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: For a second, I could separate myself from my job.

588
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 4: We're talking about this because I'm an mm A fan.

589
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 4: Even if I could cast out on a lot of this,

590
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, you need a manager for your team.

591
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: What the fuck you guys doing?

592
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 6: Pright, Kevin Lee, I'll pray the list guy, Kevin.

593
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 4: What about kel If you can't get Sarah or Henzel?

594
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: Kenny's expensive to pay Kenny and Bitcoin to be the

595
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: coach of Team New York. He's a boss.

596
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 7: With the way bitcoin is going, this guy's got to be.

597
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 6: He might be a billionaire as we're talking.

598
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Speaker 2: He's gonna quit the show.

599
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 6: Oh he's happy. You gotta be. You gotta be happy.

600
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: The way things go, well, there were some scary parts

601
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: I had to ride those those ways.

602
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 6: It looks like looks like Trump's embracing this whole thing.

603
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it could still be some scary parts. But

604
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 4: I would just tell the masses out there. As Bitcoin

605
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: resides around one hundred and four or so thousand, you know,

606
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: I remember when it was sixty one thousand, and Ken

607
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 4: Flow's like, hey, John, I know you may you know,

608
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 4: you just need to plunge again when it's sixty one thousand.

609
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: I said, you know what, Kenny, I'll plunge it sixty

610
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: five a few days later, and here.

611
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: We are and it's almost double that. All right? Have

612
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: I exhausted my questions on the GFL? All right?

613
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: Do you have any other details in terms of when

614
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: your first obligation might be in terms of cornering coaching,

615
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: when any of your team, Holly Homer, anybody else might

616
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: show up in your gym? Are you gonna be in

617
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: Holly Holmes's corner alongside Mike Winkle?

618
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: John? I mean, what's going on?

619
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Speaker 7: I don't hope we're going to find out, but I

620
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Speaker 7: think showres slated for the end of April.

621
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Speaker 4: All right, and we'll get more answers because we have

622
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Speaker 4: the number one overall draft pick, Tyron Woodley joining us

623
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: later today.

624
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 6: Oh wow, we should get Tarren on the show too,

625
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 6: be't love it?

626
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

627
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Speaker 4: Maybe for the Ray Long Go minute next week. We

628
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: can all get answers together, Kenny, I wanted to ask

629
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Speaker 4: you a question. So Robin Black was part of the

630
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Speaker 4: commentary team for this draft.

631
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Speaker 2: He suggested that gayguard Musac should have been the number

632
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: one overall pick.

633
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: Right, So, in terms of pure competitiveness and the Luke

634
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: Thomas three words bouts of consequence, right. I think that's interesting,

635
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: Like where is Gayguard Musas right now? Because that is

636
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: one of the names that was invoked by Chris Wiman

637
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: in terms of guys, he has history with Musasiel Romero, right. Yeah,

638
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: I think Burrow Faber would be of intrigue to some people,

639
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: potentially Kenny right, But like Gayguard Musas right in twenty

640
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: twenty five, he's still on the right side of forty.

641
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: I believe, you know, how competitive can Musasi be right now?

642
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: Could tell us a lot about the gfl's future totally.

643
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: And he's been out for a little while, and I'm

644
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: glad that he ended up somewhere else, you know. I

645
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 5: know he was with the PFL Belator, couldn't get a

646
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 5: fight for a long time. But now having one of

647
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: these big names and a guy who has been extremely

648
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: successful over the course of his career, I think it's

649
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: great that now he has an opportunity to compete again

650
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: and he has been out a while. Curiously, you know

651
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 5: how much Russ there is on him, but I still

652
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: think he can be very successful.

653
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: He got Benson Henderson on Team London.

654
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: He hasn't fought since I believe March of twenty twenty three, Abubakartner,

655
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: Mango Metov on Team Dubai. So perhaps you'll see Kabib

656
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Speaker 4: in a GFL corner there for a really good human being,

657
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Speaker 4: a Bouba Kartner, Mango matav Ar. We'll see what happens

658
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: with the GFL. We wish everybody the best with that initiative.

659
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: So it feels like Morab Dwallish Willy and Umar and

660
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: MgO Matov Raymond, you know, fought a long time ago,

661
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: but it really isn't all that long ago, and I

662
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: just wanted to marinate on that if we could just

663
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: a little bit. And I know some people felt as

664
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: though maybe Ken Flow and I were apologetic or Umar

665
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: leaning in terms of some of what we said on

666
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: the show last week, and you know, the Marob Dwallish

667
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 4: Willy celebration continues. I feel like in terms of agree

668
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: of difficulty, this opponent on this timeline was a really

669
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: hard thing to accomplish, and I just want to live

670
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: in that for a minute with you, you know, if I could.

671
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and uh, one hundred percent, I thought you guys

672
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 7: didn't do anything obscene list week. But he's coming back

673
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 7: to New York. I think he's back today. Hopefully we'll

674
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 7: give him a victory party tomorrow. And had Jim maybe

675
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 7: a rewatch party so I could see if I haven't

676
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 7: rewatched it yet, I want to see if John said

677
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 7: any negative, you know, derogatory things towards Morab will find out.

678
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think when you guys have that watch party,

679
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: you shouldn't have commentary. You should have like music that

680
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: he can dance to. You don't need the commentary.

681
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 6: I want to hear the commentary.

682
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, I mean I think the commentary

683
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: was reflective of a fight. There was two nil challenger

684
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: after two, but then certainly it was in awe of Mirob.

685
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: Hey.

686
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: I criticized Alexander Volkanowski when I thought he was showboating

687
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: a little bit in that fight with ISLAMI kashev right,

688
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: And some people like the Morob show voting. I don't

689
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: necessarily feel like it is. You know, I think it's

690
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: risky sometimes when you're show voting, when your stuff in takedowns.

691
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 8: You know, I got to tell you job, you know,

692
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 8: And I talked about the show voting with a what

693
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 8: podcasts did I do?

694
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: Are you doing? What you doing?

695
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: How many pay you? We pay you.

696
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: I know our Q four payment is late, but how

697
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: many actually pay you? I know you do all these

698
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: fucking shows, right, I mean, my god, oversaturation, saturated fat.

699
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 7: Oh my god. Oh, somebody helped me. I forgot, I

700
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 7: lost my thought. What were we talking about? Oh yeah,

701
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 7: the show voting. H yeah, it's Anthony Smith. That was

702
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 7: where I was doing it. But where I do think

703
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 7: for this fight it was appropriate because I think he

704
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 7: physically broke them in. I think he attempted to mentally

705
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 7: break him what she did. Look, that's got to be frustrating.

706
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 7: A guy doesn't even give a shit. If he's holding

707
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 7: you down, he's letting you up. He's hit and he's

708
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 7: laughing at you. I don't know that. That's I think

709
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 7: for this one, and I got to go with it.

710
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 7: But when I was rewatching some of the stuff, man,

711
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 7: he's crazy. Yeah, he let the guy up.

712
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 6: He was. It was a little too much, you know.

713
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 7: At the time, I was enjoying it, but I looked

714
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 7: went back and looked at some of the clips. He's

715
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 7: he is ballsy, but he doesn't give a ship. That's

716
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 7: what I love about him.

717
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: It's a double edged sword, right, It's a double edsword.

718
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 2: You kind of have to put it.

719
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 5: You have to put it into the context of that round,

720
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 5: like is he doing it to kind of say, oh,

721
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: those shots aren't hurting me, or is he showing Hey,

722
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: I'm so damn comfortable right now I can do this.

723
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 5: But I imagine can get a little harry when when

724
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: those rounds were close like it was. But you know

725
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: it works for I mean in the end, so you

726
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: know it's crazy.

727
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 7: Look, it definitely was. The second thing you said, he

728
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 7: was so comfortable. I think that's what it's shown. He

729
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 7: just the lack of respect was was crazy.

730
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: He didn't care.

731
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 7: But I could tell you in that corner throughout that

732
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 7: whole fight, and I'd have to check with wood Arowd Joe,

733
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 7: nobody was We never thought he was behind, like never,

734
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 7: you know, you never, I don't think John right, you

735
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 7: never heard of cold red leg. You gotta you gotta

736
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 7: win the next three rounds or no, I.

737
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: Thought he was up as well.

738
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: It can also act as a demoralizer for your when

739
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 5: you see the other guy like celebrating and like enjoying

740
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: everything back in the round, You're like, oh my god,

741
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 5: what do I gotta do against this guy?

742
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 6: Exactly, And I think that's the beauty.

743
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 7: That was the beauty of it. But I think it

744
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 7: was what you said, just I'm so comfortable. It's like

745
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 7: your place barring with a guy in the gym who

746
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 7: can't do anything to you. It's it's it's not a

747
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 7: good feeling.

748
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

749
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 4: So I feel like Morob and Umar both had moments

750
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: and rounds one, two, and three, and if memory serves,

751
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: rounds four and five were the most clear, even though

752
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: I thought rounds one and two were fairly clear for Umar.

753
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: So I think for you guys, right, there was productivity

754
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 4: in every round, right, I tell.

755
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: Listen, what what What were Uman's moments? What stands out

756
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 6: to you?

757
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Well, I I think Morob was the more facially damaged fighter.

758
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Does that count for nothing? It looked like he ate some.

759
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 7: Shots absolutely nothing, Okay, I'll tell you only what you

760
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 7: have to see the guy's face.

761
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: It's a ball of Scott tissue.

762
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 7: Yeah maybe yeah, no heat the way at the firm,

763
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 7: Will used to bleed walking into the gym, just walking in.

764
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 6: He'd stop bleeding.

765
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: Our producer Cody Merrow says that he thought Umar stung

766
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: Morob in round one.

767
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 6: Hit one shot looked like his legs.

768
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 7: But you know, that's the shot. That's the only thing

769
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 7: I saw, Okay, led me to believe, you know what,

770
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 7: they might give him the round based on that. If

771
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 7: they're looking at damage, give me something else. There's nothing

772
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 7: else besides that.

773
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: All right?

774
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 4: So I have one would you rather question for you today?

775
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: But no, it's not part of the men's health list.

776
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: So Morob Dwallish, Willie and al Jamaine Sterling live on

777
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: the same block. And I don't know if it's one

778
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards or so, but certainly it stands

779
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: to reason that Morob could throw a baseball to al

780
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: Jo's house at it. It was documented he called out

781
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: for al Joe and Aljo came over and watched the fights. Right,

782
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: all right, So would you rather have Marob Dwallish Willie

783
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: or al Jamaine Sterling as your neighbor for any potential

784
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: block parties that you want or don't want?

785
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 6: Oh that's a good question. Uh, that's funny.

786
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 7: Well, Kenny, But I'm gonna go with Morob because al

787
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 7: Joe is really one of those you know, you got

788
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 7: to put the you know.

789
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 6: You got to take.

790
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 7: The house has to be neat, he has to you know,

791
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 7: everything's got to be in the right spot.

792
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: So I'm sure Morob would be the better neighbor.

793
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 7: If you're not tight like it, like me, I'd like

794
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: to just go off the seat of my pants. But uh,

795
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 7: I think Morob's probably the the better, the better neighbor

796
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 7: for that. Alja Aljo strick man, Ala runs. Aljo runs

797
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 7: a tight ship.

798
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 6: You know. Morob's got all the Georgian's there. You know.

799
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 7: If you like people, you know, I think that he's

800
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 7: probably your better neighbor. If you like you know, if

801
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 7: you like tidiness and cleanliness, then al Joe's.

802
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 6: You better guy.

803
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: Just imagine the handyman that Morob could be if anything

804
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 4: goes sideways and Aljoe probably disappear, I don't think you'd

805
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: see much of him, right, depends what you're looking for

806
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 4: in a neighbor. I think Kenflo would choose Aljo because

807
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be omni present.

808
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would choose Morob just because I'm

809
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: not very handy.

810
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 4: But you know, I do believe there'd be times where

811
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: Morob wants to hang out where maybe you know, other

812
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: people trying to get some shut out, you know.

813
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, so go ahead, please, I.

814
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 7: Was gonna say somebody else asked me because of you,

815
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 7: They asked me a.

816
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 6: Would you rather? I thought it was a really good one. Though.

817
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 6: Oh guy's name was Rome. He's a Georgian guy.

818
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 7: He comes to the gym, but he has a podcast

819
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 7: that he just for Georgians.

820
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 6: I think, I don't know.

821
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 4: So now you have people stopping you in the streets

822
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: and in the gym because they listen to this show

823
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: asking you would you rather?

824
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: Questions?

825
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 6: I have to assume that, well, what else.

826
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: Would it be asking you out of the blue? Did

827
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: he reference the show?

828
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 6: I mean you didn't. You didn't come up with this.

829
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: Whole credit Men's Health every time?

830
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: Or maybe he reads Men's Health. I don't know.

831
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

832
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 7: So here's the question that would would you rather have

833
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: ten champions who defend their title once?

834
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 6: I think?

835
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 7: Or one champion who defends this title ten times? That's

836
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 7: now that's a good thought provoking, you know, not whether

837
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 7: do I want to wipe my ass with a toothbrush

838
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 7: or brush my teeth with sandpaper?

839
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 6: You know, I thought this was thought provoking, Kenny, What

840
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 6: do you think?

841
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: They're both thought provoking? Different about the loss? I understand

842
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: it is not ten worlds appions without question, right.

843
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean, certainly you could have somebody who is defending

844
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: the title multiple times, like a George Saint Pierre or

845
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: someone like John Jones, and there are different challenges. I

846
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 4: think that maybe would come with both of those athletes, right,

847
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, I would say to build ten world champions

848
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: longo style would be the That's.

849
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 7: The way I went, you know, because you could have

850
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 7: one superstar that you know, you know, like he's gonna

851
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 7: win no matter where he's at, right, or you could

852
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: you're proven that you have a recipe to get guys there.

853
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I liked that. I thought it was a

854
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 6: good question.

855
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: All Right, two more questions if I could so. Jimmy

856
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: Rivera is a police officer and he is on your team.

857
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: I wonder if you and Steven Lee, you're great manager

858
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: or your wheel spinning, that you maybe get Jimmy Rivera,

859
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: the Tiger Shulman guy, and you know, get all the

860
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: great police officers there, the long go Long Goo mma,

861
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 4: and you know this might be a good recruitment tool,

862
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: this GFL. I mean, are we're thinking outside the box here?

863
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you obviously want the Ken Fluw seminar, which

864
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: we're gonna get on the books, you know.

865
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we're doing that. Uh no, Look, I haven't

866
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 6: seen Jimmy in a while.

867
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 7: Always was a good fight obviously al Joe Fordham, but

868
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 7: he was on the local circuit forever.

869
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: We'll see. I don't know. I'm not thinking outside the

870
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 6: box though.

871
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: Last question, factor fiction.

872
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: When Dylan Danis competes for the GFL, Ray Longo is

873
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: going to be in his corner.

874
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 7: Look, I'm paid to do a job, and if I

875
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Speaker 7: signed up for it, I'll do my job.

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Speaker 6: That's the period. Does that answer the question.

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Speaker 2: Though, No, you don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'll be in the corner. Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: If that's that's amazing. If that's what I'm paid to do,

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm paid to do. I mean, I didn't

881
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Speaker 8: pick them.

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Speaker 4: It really is going to be interesting to see how

883
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Speaker 4: this all plays.

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Speaker 7: H John's wheels is spinning. Get Darren on the podcast now,

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Speaker 7: I will. He'd love to be on. But line up

886
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Speaker 7: your questions.

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Speaker 2: I would love you.

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Speaker 6: I'm a coach.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but you you're on our show every

890
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Speaker 4: week though, and you're one of the fucking coaches right

891
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 4: like this, You know, and I love you like a brother.

892
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 4: You know, I could have hit you a lot harder

893
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Speaker 4: on the Wiman thing. I mean, we just had a

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Speaker 4: retirement party for the guy.

895
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Speaker 2: I let you go. I let you go. You know, Hey,

896
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Speaker 2: I love you.

897
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: Do we take up? Do we take back what we

898
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 6: said about him? Now we wasted all that time.

899
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna have to do it again.

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Speaker 6: The guy fucked us.

901
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: He did. I do think is going to do.

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Speaker 6: It because he did that. I took Kevin Lee over him.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah, right, that's that's out there. Ah yeah.

904
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Speaker 4: I think it might be Arnold Allen or Brian t

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Speaker 4: c the Ortega for Alja main St. It's just gonna

906
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Speaker 4: be big fights, man. I think al might get to

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Speaker 4: a title fight.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 7: Al Joe's listen, he's in a great spot. He's he's

910
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Speaker 7: he's at piece with everything. I don't I think it's

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Speaker 7: going to be hard to rattle him like before, with

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Speaker 7: all the title defenses and all that crap. I think

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Speaker 7: it was a really I really think he did what

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Speaker 7: he had to do, one of the best to ever

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 6: And I think he's.

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Speaker 7: What I see is a guy who's very free and

918
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Speaker 7: just is probably wants to fight more now than he

919
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Speaker 7: did five years ago. You know, he just looks very

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Speaker 7: comfortable to me.

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Speaker 2: That last one was super close, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It was super close. I mean, if I like again,

923
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Speaker 7: no winner or loser in that fight. To me, you

924
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Speaker 7: could have went either way. Uh. I definitely obviously would

925
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Speaker 7: have given it to al Jo. But you know, he's

926
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Speaker 7: in a really good spot. I really like what he's at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, my brother will have a great day

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Speaker 4: in a better evening. And you're always a good sport.

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Speaker 2: And you know the only reason this show rates is

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Speaker 6: Would you rather?

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Speaker 2: Would you rather?

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Speaker 6: Definite? Haulated?

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Speaker 2: I gotta get out, well, thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, John, No, Well, Kenny's gonna do a seminar.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do a broadcasting seminar at your gym.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do it all.

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Speaker 7: You're right and then one hundred percent yep. But I

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Speaker 2: Hey, have a great day, my man.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, text me to remind me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ray Longo.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is here.

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Speaker 4: It's Green Corner, and you may recognize doctor June Chin,

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Speaker 4: who has been with us before, Leafwell's chief medical officer,

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Speaker 4: happy to have her. The founder and CEO of Leafwell

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Speaker 4: and cancer survivor as well, Emily Fisher June, Doctor June, Emily.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you guys with us. How are we

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Speaker 2: doing great?

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Speaker 9: Thank you for having us. It's great to see you,

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Speaker 9: John Kenny. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 10: It's a pleasure. Thanks for having us again.

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Speaker 2: It's our pleasure.

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Speaker 4: So the Green Corner as we're now calling it, so

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Speaker 4: several times a year, you guys are going to be

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00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: joining us. Certainly doctor June Chin will be with us

1006
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Speaker 4: and hopefully Emily when.

1007
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Speaker 2: Her schedule allows.

1008
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Speaker 4: But there's no doubt that what you guys are doing

1009
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: industrywide is I think, changing how people view cannabis and

1010
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: in the world of healthcare. Obviously things are chaining rapidly

1011
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: when it comes to medical care cannabis. So here we

1012
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: have a doctor, we have a patient, and a CEO.

1013
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: So Emily, I guess I'll start with you off the top.

1014
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: What was the impetus for starting leaf Well, and where

1015
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: are you, I guess, relative to your initial expectations.

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Speaker 3: Well, I suppose I'll say that I come into this,

1017
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Speaker 3: as you said, as a patient. I've had breast cancer twice,

1018
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: so I know exactly what it feels like to fight

1019
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Speaker 3: for your health.

1020
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Speaker 9: And as a patient, I wanted.

1021
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Every tool that I could have to help me in

1022
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: my journey, and I found cannabis that way. I also

1023
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: worked with cannabis patients in California for three years before

1024
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Speaker 3: starting leaf Well, and I saw the profound impact cannabis

1025
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Speaker 3: had in their lives. And I think it was both

1026
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: that experience and also my own pastal experience that really

1027
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 3: inspired me to start leaf Well.

1028
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 9: Honestly, I felt like I didn't have a choice.

1029
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: You know, there's millions of people who were benefiting from

1030
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: cannabis today, but there are millions more that could benefit

1031
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Speaker 3: that aren't yet benefiting. So I feel like we have

1032
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: so much work still to do. I feel like we've

1033
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: only done ten percent of what we set out to do.

1034
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: You know, our mission is to increase access, education, and

1035
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: much needed research. We really need to better understand this

1036
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: plant and its utility is a medicine, and we are

1037
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Speaker 3: making great progress in that journey, but.

1038
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Speaker 9: There's still so much what to do.

1039
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 3: You know, cannabis isn't a silver bullet, but its ability

1040
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Speaker 3: to support patients is really extraordinary, and.

1041
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 9: So we're really excited about the work we're doing at LEAF.

1042
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, education is the buzzword for me. There still

1043
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 4: is a lot of ignorance, you know now in terms

1044
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: of sports doctor June and athletic organizations, right like when

1045
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: you see the NCAA removing it as a banned substance

1046
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Speaker 4: for D one athletes or the NFL going to links

1047
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: to maybe reduce penalties for players, Like, are you guys

1048
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: internally celebrating that because it sort of speaks to the

1049
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: evolution and the education of cannabis, And on a level

1050
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 4: like that, it sort of rings true with you guys

1051
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: internally in terms of what you guys are doing.

1052
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 11: Absolutely.

1053
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 12: You know, we have seven studies that are published or

1054
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Speaker 12: on the way of being publishing, and we know that

1055
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Speaker 12: cannabis enhances recovery. We know that it improved pain perception

1056
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 12: and mind body awareness. So this makes us very very

1057
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 12: excited not only for the athletic space, but also for

1058
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 12: post athletic space for retired athletes. You know what happens

1059
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 12: after a lifetime of chronic injury and acute injury.

1060
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Speaker 5: So Emily, you know, I heard you guys are providing

1061
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: some municipalities and their employees with some medical cannabis.

1062
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: Can Can you talk a little bit about what you

1063
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 2: guys are doing in Trent.

1064
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Speaker 6: New Jersey?

1065
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll start with just saying that employers today

1067
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: are really faced with with two significant challenges.

1068
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Speaker 9: One is rising.

1069
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Speaker 3: Healthcare costs every single year, and the other are employees

1070
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Speaker 3: that are suffering from chronic pain, anxiety, and mental health.

1071
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 9: And so we're really excited.

1072
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Speaker 3: To be partnering with employers in New Jersey to offer

1073
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Speaker 3: cannabis care as a sponsored employer benefit, essentially enabling their

1074
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Speaker 3: employees to explore cannabis as an alternative to their prescription medication.

1075
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Speaker 3: This is this is truly exciting because it's systemic change,

1076
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: as you can imagine. You know, obviously, regulation has has

1077
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: has been moving forward in the US around around the country,

1078
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 3: but still there's you know, a significant number of people

1079
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: that could benefit from cannabis, and they are scared of

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Speaker 3: trying cannabis because of fear of workplace repercussions. So now

1081
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: if your employer is saying to you, well, actually cannabis

1082
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: could be an alternative to your prescription medication, that changes

1083
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: it as an option for people. And that's essentially what

1084
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: we're we're doing with employers.

1085
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Speaker 9: And with anything.

1086
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Speaker 3: Research is so important and we're we're being very diligent

1087
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 3: about collecting data on the impact of employees using cannabis

1088
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Speaker 3: as an alternative, and the preliminary.

1089
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 9: Research is super promising.

1090
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Speaker 3: It's not just good for employees, it's also good for

1091
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: the organizations. You know, we're seeing a reduction in healthcare utilization,

1092
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: we're seeing a reduction in prescription medication, we're seeing an

1093
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: improvement in overall quality of life, a reduction in absenteeism.

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Speaker 9: And so this isn't just about you know, offering patients

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Speaker 9: an alternative.

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Speaker 3: This also supports really the objectives and the challenges, helps

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Speaker 3: employers with the challenges that they're faced with.

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Speaker 5: And doctor June, you know, we're seeing more athletes turn

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Speaker 5: to medical cannabis to help them. Obviously, whether it's the

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Speaker 5: stress of training or the bumps and bruises that you

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Speaker 5: get over the course of your training, whether it's for

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Speaker 5: a fight or maybe something else. You know what are

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Speaker 5: some of the benefits of using cannabis, and are there

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Speaker 5: I guess specific flowers flowers that are better than others.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm just kind of curious about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd love to address that. You know, I give

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Speaker 10: an example.

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Speaker 12: Some of my colleagues, who, let's say is not doesn't

1109
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Speaker 12: believe that cannabis can be a medicine, will tell me, well,

1110
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 12: cannabis just numbs your emotions and it actually can break

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Speaker 12: down that post recovery cycle. And I don't agree with

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Speaker 12: that because that's not what the science shows. So when

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Speaker 12: we think of athletes and intense athletes, we think about

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Speaker 12: how intense physical activity or acute stress, right, the body

1115
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 12: is flooded with adrenaline. Well, cannabis can help calm that

1116
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 12: sympathetic overdrive, you know, reducing that jittery, that hyper alert

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Speaker 12: state caused by adrenaline. So, for example, an athlete recovering

1118
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 12: after a high pressure game you know, or match, can

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Speaker 12: use cannabis to help regulate their heart rate, relax their muscles,

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Speaker 12: decrease that inflammation, promote healing. When I think about brain

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Speaker 12: injury concussion, cannabis can actually tech the brain cells, reduce

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Speaker 12: inflammation and oxidative stress, and study shows that it supports

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Speaker 12: neuroplasticity and helps the brain form new connections for recovery.

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Speaker 12: So when I think about utilizing cannabis as one of

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Speaker 12: the toolboxes that athletes can use, is really a game changer.

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Speaker 12: It can actually enhance that recovery through relaxation and improve

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Speaker 12: pain perception through mind body awareness.

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Speaker 4: Emily Fisher, doctor June Shinn from Leafwell with Us live

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00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: here on the Attic Imploring Podcast. I want to go

1130
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 4: back to the leaf Well employer program just for a second,

1131
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: because it's interesting for me to think about leaving Disney. Right,

1132
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 4: so I'm working at ESPN. I was not drug tested

1133
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 4: at Disney for cannabis. Right, It's a major company. You

1134
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: would think maybe Mickey Mouse, they would test me for cannabis.

1135
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Speaker 2: They did not.

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Speaker 4: Then I joined the UFC and I was drug tested

1137
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Speaker 4: for cannabis. Now I don't know if they still drug

1138
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 4: test here fourteen years later, what the threshold might be.

1139
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Speaker 4: But when I think about, like Emily benefit packages potentially

1140
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Speaker 4: through an employ lawyer, right that would actually have some

1141
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 4: sort of cannabis package, it just feels so distant in

1142
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 4: a positive way, relative to twenty eleven, when you know

1143
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: they're trying to see if I smoked a joint once

1144
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Speaker 4: in the last month.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, absolutely, And this is this is really

1146
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: about giving people agency over.

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00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 9: Their their health.

1148
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: And so everything that we're doing is doctor led, it's

1149
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: science fact, it's personalized, and everything that we've done up

1150
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: until today has really positioned us uniquely to be able

1151
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: to offer this because we're operating in thirty eight states,

1152
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: seeing thousands of patients every single month. Following up with

1153
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: those patients, we've collected a significant amount of data patient

1154
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: reported outcomes. We've also been organizing the existing body of

1155
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: research out there to really start really start being able

1156
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: to provide this into into organizations. So yeah, this is

1157
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 3: this is a really about rethinking employer health health care

1158
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 3: and employer employee healthcare. So yeah, I think it's really

1159
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 3: changing rethinking healthcare and how we sort of.

1160
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Speaker 9: Look at cannabis.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Jim, what is it like teaching students about cannabis

1162
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: and leaf well in your world right now, I know,

1163
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: at Syracuse and other places, and how different is it

1164
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 4: maybe than when you first got up in front of

1165
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 4: a student body.

1166
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 2: However many years ago.

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Speaker 12: It is very different because you can major in cannabis science.

1168
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 12: You can understand the pharmakinetics behind it like you had

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Speaker 12: asked about. You know, what type of different flowers or

1170
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 12: different strains or chemovars are good for recovery. We can

1171
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Speaker 12: break it down to the clinical applications. A thirty eight

1172
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 12: year old athlete with a history of chronic migraines, which

1173
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 12: flowers would be better Compared to a sixty five year

1174
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Speaker 12: old that has two rotator cuff surgeries and are on

1175
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Speaker 12: five different medications. That person might have different reactions to

1176
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Speaker 12: cannabis medicine than your thirty eight year old. And that's

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Speaker 12: what the data has been giving us all these years.

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Speaker 12: And it's nice to be able to talk to undergraduates

1179
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Speaker 12: and graduates and postgraduates alike because at different ends of

1180
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 12: the cannabis spectrum. We can apply this medicine not only

1181
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Speaker 12: in healthcare, but in ancillary applications as well, with coaches,

1182
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Speaker 12: with physical therapy, occupational therapy.

1183
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Speaker 10: So the landscape has changed quite a bit.

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Speaker 4: So if you're someone who's listening to this right you

1185
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: can go to leafwell dot com and we'll give you

1186
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 4: the details at the end of the interview. But maybe

1187
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 4: you're someone who at one point in time has been

1188
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 4: prescribed with a prescription drug that might be cocaine in

1189
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 4: pill form, right, but they're giving it to thirteen year

1190
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: olds who have ADHD.

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Speaker 2: Like, what can you do Emily right now?

1192
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: If you're someone out there and you maybe have been

1193
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: hesitant but maybe you're hearing a talking head like me

1194
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: talk about it and you're somewhat receptive, is it as

1195
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: simple depending on your age and where you are as

1196
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 4: going to leafwell dot com.

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Speaker 9: Well, we speak too.

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Speaker 3: We have the ability if people have the ability anywhere

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Speaker 3: in the world really to speak to a healthcare provider

1200
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Speaker 3: through lyaf well.

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Speaker 9: So it's not just you know, there.

1202
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: Are people in places where cannabis is still not available

1203
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: to them, but they are perhaps interested in finding out more.

1204
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 9: They can come onto our platform and speak to a

1205
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 9: provider and learn more.

1206
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: They can obviously access information or website. But if you

1207
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: are in you know, in a state where cannabis is

1208
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Speaker 3: legal and you're interested in how cannabis could potentially help you,

1209
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: the first thing that I'd recommend is to go on

1210
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 3: our website and you know, we have a huge body

1211
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 3: of information and if you want to, you can.

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Speaker 9: Speak to a healthcare provider.

1213
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Speaker 3: We have over one hundred healthcare providers that work on

1214
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 3: our platform and over thirty different medical specialties as well.

1215
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Speaker 3: So if you want to speak to like, you know,

1216
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: like me, I couldn't speak to any of the ecologists

1217
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: during during my treatment about my cannabis use. So if

1218
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: you want to speak to an an ecologist who is

1219
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: also a cannabis expert, you can do so. If you

1220
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: want to speak to a mental health expert, you can

1221
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Speaker 3: do so. And so I think that's really what that's

1222
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Speaker 3: what I would sort of invite people to do.

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Speaker 9: It's really bridging.

1224
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 3: You know, someone who's curious but maybe a little bit concerned.

1225
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they're on medication and they want to understand the

1226
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: contraindications that could happen with the medication they're on. Our

1227
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: providers extremely knowledgeable, and they are armed with all.

1228
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Speaker 9: The data that we've been collecting over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: It's all incredible.

1230
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Speaker 4: Last thing, and I could never have foreseen a time

1231
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: when I could, excuse me, admit this in a public forum.

1232
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: Right but my senior thesis that I wrote at Gettysburg

1233
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: College twenty five years ago, how the media undermines American democracy?

1234
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: Right now, I was having anxiety, putting that I don't

1235
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 4: even know what I wrote, doctor June, I know you're

1236
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: not in your head and acknowledgment when I was done.

1237
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: Now it was I knew at the time what it was,

1238
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: but I dealt with my anxiety for that project with cannabis,

1239
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: and I sort of realized at that time that it

1240
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: was helping me in terms of my creative writing. And

1241
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: I come to you as a former print journalist who

1242
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: does so much writing for television, and I don't know

1243
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: if this is an unfair or selfish question or I

1244
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 4: guess I just feel like it has not only helped

1245
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: my anxiety, but it also has been somewhat of a

1246
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: performance enhancer in terms of my ability to focus and

1247
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: maybe tap into a part of my creative brain that

1248
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have otherwise tapped into. Is there any science

1249
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: or anything behind what I just said.

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00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.

1251
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 12: Cannabis works on the endocannabinoid system and that helps the

1252
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 12: body maintain homeostasis or equilibrium. So the ECS, or endocannabinoid

1253
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 12: system interacts with brain receptors. So you figured out how

1254
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 12: it can help regulate stress, anxiety, and mood. So instead

1255
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 12: of numbing emotions, it actually allows patients to process emotions

1256
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Speaker 12: more calmly and thoughtfully.

1257
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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

1258
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: It almost made me enjoy part of a process that

1259
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: inherently I wouldn't enjoy. All right on Instagram if you

1260
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: would like to follow along at leaf Underscore Official at

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Speaker 4: doctor Junshin Emily.

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Speaker 2: I didn't find a personal handle for you.

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Speaker 4: But if it's out there, we will certainly graphically represent

1264
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Speaker 4: that Doctor Junshin, Emily Fisher. I encourage everybody to go

1265
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: to leafwell dot com slash annik.

1266
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Speaker 2: We'll pump out on the backside as well.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys though for joining us, and we look

1268
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 4: forward to the green corner. I guess in a month

1269
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Speaker 4: or two, but thank you guys so much. Best of luck,

1270
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Speaker 4: and we're here to support in any way we can.

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Speaker 9: Of course, thanks so much for having us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you ladies, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Junshin and CEO Emily Fisher with us here on

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Speaker 4: the Anak and Florian podcast. Don't forget tell your friends

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Speaker 4: the board in your professional.

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Speaker 2: And personal life.

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Speaker 4: Now's the time you can get AP proof for your

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Speaker 2: All Right, guest driven program.

1284
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Speaker 4: Today, when we don't have UFC fights to recap, we

1285
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: can talk about things like the GFL and the Super

1286
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: Bowl and all of those things, and now with us

1287
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 4: on the guest line, I feel like this an underrated

1288
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 4: talking head, and I know my twin brother Jason An agrees,

1289
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm serious. The great Josh Cohen of South Florida radio fame.

1290
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: You may have heard him on ESPN radio or seen

1291
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 4: him on UFC Fight Pass alongside his former friend Dean Thomas.

1292
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 4: Not even a face for radio. This guy looks in shape.

1293
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: He is single.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Josh.

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Speaker 13: First of all, I love how you say former friend,

1296
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 13: how you nailed that with the inside skinny and you

1297
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 13: say single, I mean, there's no ring on it. But

1298
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 13: you know, I'm literally at my girlfriend's house in Okala

1299
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Speaker 13: right now, and she's Columbiana, so she'll murder me and

1300
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 13: then maybe murder you after that. But good morning, gentlemen,

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Speaker 13: good afternoon. Whatever time it is, wherever you make.

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Speaker 4: It, it is the afternoon. So can I ask how

1303
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: long you guys have been dating? I did think you

1304
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 4: were you were on the market. I apologize. That's a

1305
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: great look.

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Speaker 13: By the way, you know, she's not home right now

1307
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 13: again in her house that she owns that I'm free

1308
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Speaker 13: loading in. Because for you to say you didn't know

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Speaker 13: that I was involved for two and a half years

1310
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 13: makes it sound like maybe I'm not holding up my

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 13: What are you doing to me? Like literally what you're lucky?

1312
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 13: Her English is terrible, because like, what are you doing

1313
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 13: to me?

1314
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: John John Kenny? Please go ahead?

1315
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: John John sets up our guests one question at a time.

1316
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 2: He destroys you one question.

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, He brings up old jobs, he says former friends.

1318
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: He says, you act like you're single.

1319
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 13: I didn't know you had a girlfriend who didn't seem

1320
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 13: that way the way you conduct yourself publicly.

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Speaker 2: Bro, what the hell?

1322
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: Bro?

1323
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm a man of veracity.

1324
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 4: I'm an oversharer, right, so I could tell the masses

1325
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 4: that when you invited me for drinks in West Palm Beach,

1326
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: I sort of thought that we would be you know,

1327
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm no but a couple of single guys which were not.

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 4: But uh, I digress. Congratulations, we're going to put a

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 4: ring on it. I mean we could talk about her

1330
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: the whole fucking show.

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean after this conversation, if she sees this shit,

1332
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 13: I'm probably I probably will be single.

1333
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: I could be honest from the way you'll have bring

1334
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: on it. I'm not too worried about it.

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1336
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: You know, I've never gotten married, but never gotten married.

1337
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 13: Not in any rush to do that, you know, but

1338
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 13: I absolutely would.

1339
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm willing.

1340
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 13: I'm willing and able wanting different. You know, somebody asked

1341
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 13: me to say, how come we never got married?

1342
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: I said, half a marriage ends and divorce.

1343
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 13: If half a flight's ended in crash, would you get

1344
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 13: on a plane?

1345
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: That's crucio spots?

1346
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 4: Now right, there's only I think there's one reason to

1347
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: get married, and that's pro creation. You know, we do

1348
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: not live in a polygamous world unless you're uh jall

1349
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: gets Humagoulav in Kazakhstan.

1350
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 13: What a show today? People are like, Hey, we're talking fights.

1351
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 13: Now we're gonna smoke weed. John's going to Gettysburg College.

1352
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 13: We don't know who this loser is, but apparently doesn't

1353
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 13: have Job's war friends. And now he's on here and

1354
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 13: and he's about to lose his girlfriend too.

1355
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: So there's other way.

1356
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: Tyan Woodley coming up in forty minutes if you want

1357
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 4: us to center things. But Josh, we have a lot

1358
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: of things that I would like to get to with

1359
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: you now for those that haven't been following your every

1360
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 4: professional move, so Questionable Call is your series on YouTube

1361
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 4: that I have leaned heavily into. You're also live on

1362
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: Instagram almost every day with your show. So before we

1363
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 4: get into some NFL stuff, some UFC stuff, where can

1364
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: people find your work? And what exactly are you and

1365
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 4: aren't you doing here as we begin twenty twenty.

1366
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 13: Five, Yeah, the show's on YouTube. Questionable Call. You can

1367
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 13: find it a Questionable Call. It's literally the dumbest form

1368
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 13: half minutes of your day where I make a big

1369
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 13: deal out of a little thing and make a huge

1370
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 13: deal out of a minor thing and I scream at you.

1371
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 13: But it's NFL based right now primarily, and it's literally

1372
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 13: just killing it.

1373
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: We're taking the story.

1374
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 13: Connecting the dots, so in four minutes time, you get

1375
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 13: all the angles on something maybe you didn't realize or

1376
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 13: up on your own, and you get to go, oh shit, okay,

1377
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 13: that makes sense, but really it's just exploitative sensationalism that

1378
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 13: is really performing well. So you know, I mean, you

1379
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 13: got to make a professional choice sometimes do you want

1380
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 13: to put out good work or do you want to

1381
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 13: be successful? And I've just sold my soul like Sandlord,

1382
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 13: letfix where it's like, I'll just turn out this shit

1383
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 13: every day Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

1384
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: But it seems to work so fine, Like you can do.

1385
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 13: Good stuff and nobody's watching it, or you can do

1386
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 13: the garbage that I'm doing at Questionable Called on YouTube

1387
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 13: and it'd be very widely viewed and successful.

1388
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 4: So I'll take this and I think it's questionably the

1389
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: extent to which it's garbage. Right, everybody has four minutes,

1390
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 4: they may not have forty, And the thesis statement on

1391
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 4: the Anakinmflorm podcast.

1392
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: Has always been leaving want more. Yeah that's the idea.

1393
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So what was the Questionable Call today?

1394
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: Have you shot the show today? Yeah, I'm in the

1395
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: midst of it right now.

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 13: We're obviously getting into the Buffalo Bills and Kansas City Chiefs,

1397
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 13: and you know, the numbers don't lie. Since twenty twenty

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 13: one in the postseason, the Kansas City Chiefs have benefited

1399
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 13: more than any other team and in comparison in regard

1400
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 13: to their opponents in every category roughing the passer, defensive

1401
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 13: pass interference, and or holding unnecessary roughness personal fouls.

1402
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: So there were those.

1403
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 13: Points in the AFC Championship game last night where really

1404
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 13: it just seems like whenever there is a not to

1405
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 13: be you know penny or promote, a terrible show, a

1406
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 13: questionable or bad call, they always seem to go Kansas

1407
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 13: City's way. So we just spotlighted a couple of spots

1408
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 13: yesterday in which now other angles that we see when

1409
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 13: you get further review upon this, you realize Jesus h

1410
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 13: like the officials, no benefits of the doubt to the

1411
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 13: Buffalo Bills, every benefit of the doubt to the Kansas

1412
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 13: City Chiefs. And while they dropped the ball right that

1413
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 13: was you know Kincaid. And while they didn't decide plays,

1414
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 13: they certainly played major roles in that Xavier Worthy completed call.

1415
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 13: And then certainly the fourth and one, actually the third

1416
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 13: down was converted, and they called that shorter than the

1417
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 13: fourth down. So we're in the midst of spending four

1418
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 13: minutes on blowing you through how you know it is

1419
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 13: with the new information, the officials got it wrong yet again,

1420
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 13: and then how this will ultimately affect the Super Bowl,

1421
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 13: which is a matchup that, let's be honest, America really

1422
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 13: doesn't want to.

1423
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: See at the former world champion Josh Cohen on Instagram.

1424
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: He's also on exits like Josh on the Air or

1425
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 4: something like that.

1426
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: But he's Josh on it on.

1427
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 4: The attic Emplorian podcast. So let me just submit this

1428
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: to you and then I'll get Kemflow in here. And

1429
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: I don't even know if Kem Flo watched the championship games.

1430
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 4: He usually tunes in at this time of year for

1431
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: the NFL. So but all right, so I agree with

1432
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 4: you in terms of Buffalo being on the wrong end

1433
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 4: of some calls in Kansas City getting every benefit of

1434
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: every doubt. But you and I both like Buffalo plus two.

1435
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Speaker 4: It did not come in, right, ye, Patrick Mahomes, Andy

1436
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: Reid's Steve Spagnolo, Right, can't we just suggest that, like

1437
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: they're just better than Sean McDermott and Josh Allen, Right,

1438
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 4: Like Patrick Mahomes is significantly better in my opinion, when

1439
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 4: push comes to shove for a singular play, a singular

1440
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: throw at a weird, weird arm angle.

1441
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: At the most opportune time.

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Speaker 4: I think Patrick Mahomes, you know, whatever fucking tier you

1443
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 4: want to put him in. I think Mahomes is better

1444
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 4: than Josh Allen, and Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo are much

1445
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: better than Sean McDermott, who, quite frankly, should be fined.

1446
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's be honest. Both can be true. All of

1447
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: the calls and all.

1448
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 13: The breaks can continue to go okare the city's way,

1449
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 13: and they can be better, and they can be better coached.

1450
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 13: What Josh Allen has done is unprecedented. You look at

1451
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 13: his numbers through his first seven seasons versus Tom Brady,

1452
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 13: you boy, Twammy.

1453
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: And what you're going to realize is Mahome.

1454
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 13: Mahomes in those first seven years significantly outperforming Brady in

1455
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 13: every category. This dude's twenty nine years old. Okay, he'll

1456
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 13: be twenty nine when the next season starts, and he's

1457
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 13: about to start his fifth Super Bowl. The only quarterbacks

1458
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 13: he's lost to in the postseason are Tom Brady and

1459
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 13: Joe Burrow. And by the way, had he lost that

1460
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 13: game in regulation last night, it would have been as

1461
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 13: early as playoff egsit ever, right, because the times that

1462
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 13: he did lose in the postseason was in a super

1463
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 13: Bowl and in overtime against Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

1464
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs are a good football.

1465
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Speaker 13: Team, take nothing away, but the numbers do not lie

1466
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 13: in the postseason. When you look at just the numbers

1467
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 13: on the unnecessary roughness, the roughing the passer, the defensive

1468
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 13: pass interference and or holding, it's not that there's a

1469
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 13: slight advantage.

1470
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: There's such a disparity that there's a story there.

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Speaker 13: The disparity is so great in fact that and we're

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Speaker 13: not saying that the legas is rigged, and we're not

1473
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 13: saying the officials set out in the league is saying,

1474
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 13: hey find ways for Kansas City to win. Sometimes you

1475
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 13: just get bias. Sometimes you get the benefit of the doubt.

1476
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 13: Michael Jordan used to get the benefit of the doubt.

1477
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 13: Patrick Mahomes appears to get the benefit of the doubt.

1478
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 13: But it comes at the most inopportune times for teams

1479
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 13: like the Buffalo Bills, and they almost always seem to

1480
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 13: play at those biggest moments in favor of the Chiefs.

1481
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 13: That said they won the game yesterday, right, I mean

1482
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 13: they made the plays yesterday.

1483
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: It's not solely on the officials.

1484
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 13: It's just that again it looks bad because now you've

1485
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 13: got the NFL with significant investment financially from sports books, who,

1486
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 13: by the way, benefited tremendously from Kansas City covering.

1487
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: And let's be honest, the NFL would.

1488
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 13: Love for the Chiefs to be in the Super Bowl

1489
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 13: because that means Taylor Swift.

1490
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 2: People go, be stupid. Why would you say that. People

1491
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 2: don't realize the NFL is not concerned about.

1492
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 13: The John Annix, the Kenny Florians and I We're going

1493
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 13: to watch the game anyway. What they'd love is to

1494
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 13: develop females who don't watch the game that they've been

1495
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 13: courting for three decades and really haven't.

1496
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: For the most part, they want younger.

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 13: They want the twelve to eighteen demo, who, by the way,

1498
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 13: have spending power and will be future consumers of the

1499
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 13: game and of the advertising partners for decades. And those

1500
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 13: two parties aren't interest. Kendrick Lamar is not gonna make

1501
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 13: a ton of young people watch the game that otherwise

1502
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 13: win because they'll consume his halftime on TikTok and on.

1503
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: X and on Instagram.

1504
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 13: But if Taylor Swift's going to be in the crowd

1505
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 13: in the suite, that means you've got a whole young

1506
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 13: demo and a female demo that otherwise wouldn't watch that.

1507
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 13: The NFL's been dying to get to pay attention to

1508
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 13: the game they're going to now, and as we all know,

1509
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 13: all that.

1510
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: Matters is eyeballs because that's.

1511
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 13: What the hundreds of millions of dollars of generated revenue

1512
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 13: comes from in the television number. That audience wouldn't be

1513
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,919
Speaker 13: there if she's not there because they're not interested otherwise.

1514
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you kind of brought it up.

1515
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 5: I'm curious about your comparison or your thoughts on the

1516
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 5: two dynamic duos of Andy Reid Mahomes and Belichick and Brady.

1517
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: You know you've already made that comparison.

1518
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 5: Do you feel like it's only a matter of time

1519
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 5: before Mahomes and Reid overtake that duel of Belichick and Brady?

1520
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: It feels that way, doesn't it. Again?

1521
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 13: Twenty nine years of age, Patrick Mahomes fifth Super Bowl start.

1522
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,520
Speaker 13: They are, first of all, this is the most successful

1523
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 13: dynasty already in sports because this is the only team

1524
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 13: ever going for a three peat that actually reached the

1525
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 13: Super Bowl Game. I know it sounds crazy, but every

1526
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 13: time prior when a team had won back to back

1527
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 13: Super Bowls, they couldn't.

1528
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: Win that conference championship game.

1529
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 13: So they're already now in an area that not just

1530
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 13: New England has never been. But those Steelers teams of

1531
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 13: the seventies, and those Niners teams of the eighties and

1532
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 13: those Cowboys teams in the nineties, they never did it.

1533
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: So they're already in an air all by themselves. It

1534
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: does feel.

1535
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,440
Speaker 13: Like it is just a matter of time before Mahomes

1536
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 13: and Reid supplant Brady and Belichick. But to do that,

1537
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 13: obviously you count rings. And so we're still still a

1538
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 13: few away from that sixth they got together, and that

1539
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 13: seventh that you boy tawm me got in Tampa Bay

1540
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 13: when he got hammered on tequila and his daughter said, Daddy,

1541
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 13: don't throw the trophy from the buck, which was not

1542
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 13: Was that not the most humanized. It was at the

1543
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 13: best moment for Tom Brady's brand, for the rest of

1544
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 13: America to go, you know, I like this guy. He's

1545
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 13: day drunk, he's disrespecting his child's wishes, and he's throwing

1546
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 13: the Lombardi from another bowl like It's one of those

1547
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 13: way humanizes. It made him likable and relatable in ways

1548
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 13: we hadn't seen because theft it was just Tommy the robot.

1549
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: Of course.

1550
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think television can help him too as

1551
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 4: far as relatability. So Josh Cohen with us here on

1552
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 4: the Antic Employing podcast. So I don't want to belabor

1553
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: this too much, and I do want to get a

1554
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 4: UFC three to twelve prediction from you on the way out.

1555
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 4: But in terms of a Super Bowl prediction, and by

1556
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: the way, if Josh Allen just puts up a thirty

1557
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 4: five spot, Taylor Swift doesn't matter. So a lot of

1558
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: what you said is a little bit lost on me.

1559
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 4: But as far as this game is concerned, I've already

1560
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: bet on Kansas City just because I look head coach,

1561
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 4: quarterback kicker intangibly. I just like Kansas City. You can

1562
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 4: get him minus one twenty five right now and he

1563
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: early lean on the Super Bowl. And where will your

1564
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 4: action lie?

1565
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean this number.

1566
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 13: First of all, we all know the magic numbers three, right,

1567
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 13: the key numbers three. So if we ever see that,

1568
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 13: you know something substantial has happened people.

1569
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: You know, it used to be you know.

1570
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 13: Decades ago, the sports books really just wanted even action.

1571
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: We were all lad to believe.

1572
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 13: Well, they want, you know, five million on the left

1573
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 13: of five million on the right, and they'll keep the

1574
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 13: ten percent juice in them for the losers. Not anymore,

1575
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 13: the sportsbooks want to beat the public. They set out

1576
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 13: to beat the public, especially now that you know, legalized

1577
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 13: sports betting is forty states of the fifty in the US,

1578
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 13: and parlay players are new to this and they're getting

1579
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 13: beat badly. My early lean is not really there'll be

1580
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 13: significant line movement as we continue. I think late money

1581
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 13: probably will be Kansas City. But with that said, Kansas

1582
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 13: City has really lived a dangerous life since opening night.

1583
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 13: I mean, you remember, if Isaiah likely were shoe size

1584
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 13: eleven not twelve.

1585
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: They may lose.

1586
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 13: That opening night against the Baltimore Ravens. Every break and

1587
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 13: bounce of the ball has gone their way, from the

1588
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 13: Black Friday episode with the Raiders, from the blocked field

1589
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 13: goal nonsense with the Denver Broncos. You know, sooner or

1590
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 13: later you start to run out of luck. It hasn't

1591
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 13: happened yet. Everything is going to plan It's almost like

1592
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 13: the football gobs have intervened and decided it's preordained destiny

1593
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 13: for the Kansas City Chiefs. But Philadelphia, as you saw

1594
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 13: last night, you know, they run the ball well. Buffalo

1595
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 13: had their most success gouging that Kansas City Chiefs defense

1596
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 13: and doing so with James Cook and a little bit

1597
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 13: of help from from Josh Allen. You know that running

1598
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 13: attack of the Philadelphia Eagles is a real problem. And

1599
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 13: they may say we're gonna limit your possessions. We're not

1600
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 13: gonna get We're gonna keep possession of the Let's see

1601
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 13: what the next week and half does for for Jalen.

1602
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: You they have to Let's see.

1603
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 13: What the next week and a half does for Jalen

1604
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 13: Hurts and his health because he played a game very unhealthy.

1605
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 13: This is obviously a climate control game, and the Mercedes

1606
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 13: been supernome there in New Orleans.

1607
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: But I like the.

1608
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 13: Eagles in a spot where matchup wise and again just

1609
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 13: match up. You know, styles make fights, right, So in

1610
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 13: this fight, the style kind of favors Philadelphia, to be honest. Yeah,

1611
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 13: and not a blowout game and not some kind of

1612
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 13: a badly mismatch game, but it's one of those where

1613
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 13: you say, we're gonna go to the judges cards and

1614
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 13: is probably gonna be, you know, like a forty nine

1615
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 13: forty eight deal. It's gonna be one of those where

1616
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 13: you say, well, they did just enough. You knew what

1617
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 13: they wanted to do, they were able to do what

1618
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 13: they because you know, just like a fight, you guys know,

1619
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,839
Speaker 13: whoever gets to fight their fight generally has more success

1620
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 13: and the one that has to adapt to that has

1621
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 13: to find ways. Philadelphia make it to play the game

1622
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 13: that they want against Kansas City more than the Chiefs

1623
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 13: can play the game and execute the game they were

1624
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 13: hoping to.

1625
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: So my early league, yeah, my ely thing is gonna

1626
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: be Eagles, all right, and I have ten seconds.

1627
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 4: Dreak is due plus D minus one ninety eight Seohn

1628
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 4: Strickland plus one sixty four, UFC three twelve.

1629
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: Will you have any action there? Do due plus ce?

1630
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 13: I think is one of those guys that stays ready

1631
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 13: more than has to get ready.

1632
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: So we're gonna stay with him. It just seems he's

1633
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: a different place, headspace, and you know, in his life

1634
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: all right.

1635
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 4: The former World champion on Instagram Josh Cohen check out

1636
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: questionable call on YouTube. Best four minutes of your day.

1637
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy. Enjoy this Super Bowl and we'll talks in.

1638
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys, Thank you so much. All right, Josh

1639
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 4: Cohen with us live here on the Anakin Florian Podcast.

1640
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 4: We did not get a prediction from him on UFC

1641
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 4: Fight Night out of Sonya versus Imava, because that is

1642
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 4: our next exercise and in twenty twenty five. As many

1643
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 4: of you know, we are given a unique opportunity to

1644
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 4: some of our listeners and viewers. We have about three

1645
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty entries, but this is an on air

1646
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 4: handicapping opportunity to cap alongside the great Kenny Florian and

1647
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 4: Brian Petrie, who of course is not with us today

1648
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 4: morning the loss of his dear mother bar but with

1649
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 4: us today. He's out of Saint Charles, Missouri. And I

1650
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 4: hope I'm pronouncing his name right. Curtis Hoagland put him

1651
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 4: in the middle. Curtis, how do you pronounce your surname?

1652
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: Sir?

1653
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 4: Oh, he's on mute. He looks fantastic though, look at us,

1654
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 4: he said, all the bells now.

1655
01:15:59,120 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: Great.

1656
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 11: Appreciate you boys, No, you nailed at John. Curtis Hoagland

1657
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 11: right on the screws man.

1658
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 6: How are we doing?

1659
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: Boys? I love the sound of your voice. Petrie is

1660
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: probably nervous because I love your voice. So, dude, you

1661
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: got the whole setup.

1662
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 11: How are we doing, Curtis, good, dude, doing doing great?

1663
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 5: You know.

1664
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 11: Took a little pto today, figured out i'd come in

1665
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 11: you guys. Threw up the bat signal. I said, you know,

1666
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 11: let me put on a cape swoop in here. See

1667
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 11: we can get done. Be honest, I didn't get a lot

1668
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 11: of sleep last night. It was a little a little

1669
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 11: nervous staying up doing a little research and stuff up

1670
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 11: wide awake at one o'clock. But uh, I'm good boys,

1671
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 11: I'm happy to be here. I do want to give

1672
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 11: like a personal condolences to Brian Petrie. I know I

1673
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 11: wouldn't be here without that and been through a similar

1674
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 11: journey there, So I hope my guy's doing all right.

1675
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: That's very kind of you. And if you do want

1676
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 4: to follow Curtis Hoglan, it's add at mad Max Meridian

1677
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 4: on X and you're coming on at a good time,

1678
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 4: right because a lot of our listenership right now wants

1679
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 4: to choke me out for doing that.

1680
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: Much NFL content in the middle of the show, right,

1681
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: So they're sad to hear about some mixed martial arts.

1682
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 4: But basically you're gonna be with us for the main eventlenge,

1683
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: and then of course you will have one thousand dollars

1684
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 4: to spend on UFC Fight Night Attosani versus Emava. Before

1685
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 4: we get into that, just a little bit curious about you,

1686
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 4: about Saint Charles Missouri, about what your day job is

1687
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: and what your sort of MMA watching habits and betting

1688
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 4: habits are like.

1689
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: So what does what does your world look like?

1690
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 6: Man?

1691
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 11: Where to start here? So I'm an analyst for an

1692
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 11: aerospace company. Been with them for about the last six

1693
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 11: six and a half years, creeping in on seven here,

1694
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 11: been doing jiu jitsu. This summer will be fourteen years.

1695
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: I was.

1696
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 11: I guess you consider Ronan for quite some time, for

1697
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 11: about ten eleven years. I'm sure Kenny Florian knows all

1698
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 11: about the Ronan situation. No gee ninety percent of the time.

1699
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 11: Finally decided to drink the kool aid and threw on

1700
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 11: a gee about six months ago. Actually, So I joined

1701
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 11: a Humidas school here in Winsville, Man. First first fight

1702
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 11: I ever watched live pay per view. I went to

1703
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 11: Dave and Busters and watched brock Lesner and Shane Carwin

1704
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 11: get after it coming from like a WWE fandom, and

1705
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 11: then came in there, you know, screaming my face off

1706
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 11: for brock Lesnar, only to then get the head and

1707
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 11: arm choke out of nowhere, which was pretty, my god,

1708
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 11: pretty excellent, pretty excellent. You see, like flex and just

1709
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 11: scared the hell.

1710
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: Out of him.

1711
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 11: Yeah. Man, I've met a lot of the d I

1712
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 11: feel like it's a little bit of an untapped market

1713
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 11: here in Saint Charles. We've got like a pocket, but

1714
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 11: it's starting to get some attention. Obviously, We've got CJ,

1715
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 11: you got Charles Johnson, you got Sean Woodson. You guys

1716
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 11: are going to have Tyron on here in a little

1717
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 11: bit that's twenty miles from here, something like that. So

1718
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 11: of course Joquing Buckley goes without saying, we just had

1719
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 11: that Saint Louis event here a couple months ago, which was,

1720
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 11: I mean, insane. I'm sure you Dana was going nuts

1721
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 11: about the crowd being here pretty much from the first

1722
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 11: prelim on we had that place packed out, but it

1723
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 11: was it was excellent man, I'm a I'm a diehard fan.

1724
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 11: It's about the only sport that I follow. To be

1725
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 11: honest with.

1726
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 4: You, we're happy to have you, man. Yeah, betting wise,

1727
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 4: so what do you what do you do? I mean,

1728
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 4: is it legal where you are? What's all that about?

1729
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 11: Well, it's we'll talking hypotheticals about that one, of course.

1730
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1731
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 11: If I was like hypothetically betting, I would probably peel

1732
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 11: that in a lot of like props, a lot of

1733
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 11: picking my shots I'm used to be or if I

1734
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 11: was an actual better I hypothetically used to be a

1735
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 11: bit of a volume guy, and I had to last

1736
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 11: couple of years really reel it back and kind of

1737
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 11: pick your shots instead of, uh, you know, kind of

1738
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 11: like a shotgun pattern, throwing everything and hoping something sticks.

1739
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 11: You got to pick your shots and smack the hell

1740
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 11: out of them. So I've kind of moved more to that,

1741
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 11: and uh, yeah, man, it's good time. AD's a little

1742
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 11: spice to the fight nights sometime.

1743
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: Well, we're excited to have you. You know, we never know

1744
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 4: exactly who we are bringing on. We don't necessarily vet

1745
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 4: you guys. You know, we used to have a different

1746
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 4: listener on every week but it's absolutely great to have you.

1747
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: Congrats on your commitment to Brazilian jiu jitsu. You are

1748
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 4: a better man than I and UH really excited to

1749
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 4: break these fights down with you. So without further delay,

1750
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: let us dive right into it. Our first fight is

1751
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 4: going to be a main card offering in the featherweight division.

1752
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: Muhammad Naimov right now modus two fifty eight on Draftking

1753
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 4: sports Book taken on Khan Awfully, who is plus two

1754
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 4: to ten. Little background for you boys, Naimov out of

1755
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 4: tajeeky Stan three in one of the UFC No shame

1756
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 4: in being submitted by Felipe Lima.

1757
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: That was his last appearance.

1758
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 4: It was last June, also in Riad Saudi Arabia, and

1759
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: now he draws Indonesia's Cohn Awfully Curtis the floor is yours?

1760
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 4: Any thoughts for us on Naimov and Awfully.

1761
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 11: Man, I'm glad you get to say the names first.

1762
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 11: For me, I don't have the teddy bear charm of

1763
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 11: Brian Petrie, but I can punk up a name with

1764
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 11: the best of them. So watching some of the tape

1765
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 11: last night, a few things stood out to me. Ol

1766
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 11: Naimov actually feel like he's pretty like relatively defensively sound.

1767
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 11: He doesn't offer up a lot of holes in his

1768
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 11: game to take advantage of now. Of course, kind of

1769
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 11: slipped up in a bit of an exchange there, going

1770
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 11: for a takedown, and he kind of did like a

1771
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 11: three point post, which then of course exposed his neck.

1772
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 11: He kind of went chin up a little bit and

1773
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 11: allowed Lima to slip underneath there. Conversely, on the other side,

1774
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 11: con leaves his head on the center line a little

1775
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 11: bit too much for me. I also noticed he gets

1776
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 11: a hair flat footed at times, almost reactive to a point.

1777
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 11: It seemed like there was a point in the fight

1778
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 11: where he was kind of waiting to see what Santos

1779
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 11: was going to do and then react accordingly as opposed

1780
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 11: to like implement his own game plan, and then when

1781
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 11: it came time to do that, he rushed it and

1782
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,839
Speaker 11: got caught as a consequence. Given the versatal like arsenal

1783
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 11: that Naimov has the offer with the wheel kicks and

1784
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 11: like the chopping low kicks that thigh stomps everything else.

1785
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 11: There are times where I disagree with the odds makers.

1786
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 11: This isn't one of those times. I kind I kind

1787
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 11: of think they've got this right here. Yeah, I could

1788
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 11: potentially even see Naimov getting the finish, but that I'm

1789
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 11: gonna take Naimov here. He's I think he's nearly a

1790
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 11: three to one favorite something like that. But I think

1791
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 11: they've got it right on this one.

1792
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nicely laid out minus two fifty eight or

1793
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 4: so kemp flow for Muhammad Naimov. Awfley, Yes, was knocked

1794
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 4: out at UFC debut last August. Well round a pretty

1795
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 4: good submission game at least on paper, Kenny, but largely untested.

1796
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this one here in the featherweight division.

1797
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 5: Kid, Yeah, and that just you know, with with con Awfley,

1798
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 5: you know, it's tough to know what kind of fighter

1799
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 5: he is and certainly got caught big time in that

1800
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 5: tough finale. Uh, you know, it's a tough way to

1801
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 5: come back from. But yeah, just seemed real stiff, you know,

1802
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 5: seems stiff. Uh didn't seem his experienced when it comes

1803
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 5: to the stand up game. I'm sure he's still learning

1804
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 5: that aspect. But however, you know, who knows. Maybe he

1805
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 5: hits some takedowns here and is able to control and

1806
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 5: get a win that way. But to me, you got

1807
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 5: to go with what you know and what you've seen

1808
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 5: for me. Naimov, you know, is the proven fighter. Not

1809
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 5: only does he have some you know, uh some No,

1810
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 5: he lost his last one, but had some momentum prior

1811
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 5: to that. But he's faced actually good competition. Uh and

1812
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 5: for me that means a lot, that means more. So

1813
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 5: give me naim off as well.

1814
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 4: All right, next fight on the main card in the

1815
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 4: bantamweight division. Some Kenny might call this a bout of

1816
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 4: consequence the underappreciated Syieden r Mago Meta minus one ninety

1817
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: eight Vanesius Oliverra plus one sixty four.

1818
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see how this fight plays out.

1819
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 4: Outstanding job by the matchmakers, in my humble opinion, your

1820
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 4: Maago medovs seven and two in the UFC hasn't fought

1821
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 4: though since the first round stoppage of Muen Gafferov via guillotine,

1822
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 4: and that win has obviously aged well. Given Muen's last

1823
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 4: performance that was UFC two ninety four October twenty twenty three,

1824
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 4: so no fights last year. We're returning here against the

1825
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: electric Locke dog Vanesius oli Era Curtis.

1826
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: Who do you have for us in this one? At

1827
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five pounds.

1828
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 11: Brother, I had some adrio cut out there. Sorry about that,

1829
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 11: that's all right.

1830
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 4: Who do you have Saiedin or mago Medov minus one

1831
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 4: ninety eight Vanisius Oliverras plus one sixty four.

1832
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 11: I was a little torn on this odds makers Again,

1833
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 11: I feel like I have this one actually pretty right.

1834
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 11: Ol Vinnie Olives It gets a little bit of a

1835
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 11: long you no no relation to Charlie Olives. He does

1836
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 11: keep his hands pretty low though, which I think generally

1837
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 11: is going to be kind of a mistake. But in

1838
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 11: this fight get against a normal Gametov no relation to

1839
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 11: Kabeben company, but uh, somebody's gonna be shooting takedowns and

1840
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 11: the like. I think keeping those hands low might actually

1841
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 11: help him in that department. Now there's a there's a

1842
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 11: kicking game that normal Gametov brings into this where he's

1843
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 11: got like a real light front leg, great calf kicks,

1844
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 11: got a stabbing front kick he kind of does like this.

1845
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 11: I guess it's almost a question mark kick as well,

1846
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 11: where he'll snap it up and out there with those

1847
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 11: low hands, I think potentially he could catch is it

1848
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 11: loc doog? Is that from Don't Be a Menace?

1849
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: You know what, I think I fucked that up on

1850
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: the broadcast too. And it's not lock Dog.

1851
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 11: I think it's low Dog. Have you ever seen that

1852
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 11: movie Don't Be a Menace to South Central?

1853
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not in a while, you know, Yeah, I.

1854
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 11: Think that's what it is. Man grew up watching that

1855
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 11: movie way before. I should have probably Cole staying in

1856
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 11: the chat that lock Dog is way better.

1857
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: Kenny. Doesn't lock Dog sound better? It does sound better.

1858
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 4: Favorita right now, barlow left handed God, left handed God?

1859
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: All right, Sorry, Curtis, go ahead.

1860
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 11: Oh, no problem, Long story short. I'm going say, Sayid

1861
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 11: Norma Gomedov on this one. I think there's gonna be

1862
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 11: a grappling advantage. I think Vinnie all of his fights

1863
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 11: a little bit with an ego to in that last

1864
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 11: fight there was a point where he kind of hands

1865
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 11: down and was like mean mugging and kind of showboating

1866
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 11: to an extent. And with somebody as experienced as Sayid is,

1867
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 11: you know he's got nine fights in the UFC, I don't.

1868
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 11: I don't think that's the game plan to implement here,

1869
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 11: So I'd go that route.

1870
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 4: I hope SAYI doesn't take this the wrong way, but

1871
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 4: if my last name's Rmago Matdov, I'm calling Habib being like,

1872
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 4: hey man, just be cousins or cornerby or something. So

1873
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 4: said was to face Montel Jackson last June. Jackson reck

1874
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: number fifteen, by the way, Daniel Santos last October, then

1875
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 4: Daniel Marcos last December. He wasn't the pulling out party

1876
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 4: in all three of those, but it's been a while.

1877
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 4: On the other side, Vinnie olives plus one sixty four Kenny.

1878
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: I think he's one of the better fighters no one's

1879
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 4: talking about. He's twenty one and three beat Ricky someone

1880
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 4: last summer. What do you have for us on the

1881
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 4: band whites Can Flow?

1882
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1883
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 5: I mean these are two of the biggest phantom weights

1884
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 5: in the game. Actually right now, Olivera just tad bigger

1885
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 5: in my opinion, So I'm curious to see how their

1886
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 5: weight cuts go here in this one. Olivera very powerful.

1887
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 5: You know, if there's a guy who can land a

1888
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 5: shot and knock you out in the one hundred and

1889
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 5: thirty five pound division, it is Olivera has some serious power.

1890
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 5: He's very game as well. We saw him deal with

1891
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 5: a whole lot of adversity against Soapi in his debut.

1892
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 5: Sopie's debut, I believe as well was able to battle

1893
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 5: back from some really bad positions and then on the

1894
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 5: feet just seemed real comfortable. I am concerned with those

1895
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 5: hands a little bit low there. I think Nirmaga Medoff

1896
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 5: just like Uzman. Nirmaga Madoff is very tricky with that

1897
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 5: lead leg, and he's just a craftier striker I think

1898
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 5: is Nirmalga Medoff.

1899
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: But Olivera is a more dangerous striker.

1900
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 5: But I think the easiest path to victory is for

1901
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 5: Namaga Medoff to use his wrestling slow down Olivera, you know,

1902
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 5: and take him out of the place where he's most dangerous.

1903
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 5: So I like Sayid here. I think there was some

1904
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: value there on Olivera. But I like Sayid, but we

1905
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 5: haven't seen him in a while. Let's see how yeah

1906
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 5: he looks here?

1907
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Really like that fight?

1908
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 4: All right, Next up, Kenny, We'll go right back to

1909
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 4: you on this one. To lead us off big things

1910
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 4: at heavyweight. Sergei Pavlovich minus two ninety eight Biggie Boy

1911
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 4: Jarzino Rosenstrike comes back plus two forty so little bit

1912
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 4: of a rough go of it for Pavlovich of Late

1913
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 4: Kenny since he rose to an interim title fight against

1914
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 4: tom Aspenall that was November twenty twenty three, humbled by

1915
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 4: Alexander Volkov's former teammate last June in Saudi Arabia. So

1916
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 4: now eighteen and three from eighteen and one for Pavlovich,

1917
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 4: and he faces the heavy handed Rosen Strike, who is

1918
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 4: coming off a perfect twenty twenty four in which he

1919
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 4: won both of his fights. Ken Flow lead us off

1920
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 4: on the heavyweights, if you would.

1921
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a tricky one, and I'm really curious

1922
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 5: to see what Pavlovich we see here. You know, is

1923
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 5: this a guy who really wasn't that good all law,

1924
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 5: He was just really dangerous and wild and was catching guys.

1925
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 5: Or is he you know striker that's a lot more

1926
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 5: sophisticated than we thought and perhaps maybe down on his

1927
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 5: luck as far as confidence goes.

1928
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer to that is.

1929
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna find out here against Rosenstrike, who

1930
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 5: is another dangerous striker and sometimes needs a willing dance

1931
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 5: partner for him to look good. I think Pavolvich might

1932
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 5: be that guy.

1933
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 6: Either way.

1934
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be really exciting. I think there's

1935
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 5: value here on roses Strike. I think Pavlovich maybe people

1936
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 5: have the blueprint on him and aren't at scared of

1937
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 5: that scary Russian guy that we saw, you know, a

1938
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 5: few years back, and I think rosen Strike's gonna look

1939
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 5: to try to counter him and may just catch the

1940
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 5: big dangerous Russian. But yeah, I'm leaning towards rosen Strike here.

1941
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 5: I think there's some good value for him there as

1942
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 5: the underdog.

1943
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 4: Based upon pass fighter meetings with rosen Strike, I feel

1944
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 4: like he really is going to like this matchup. He's

1945
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 4: been waiting for an opportunity like this, getting a guy

1946
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 4: who's top four in the world.

1947
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: And let me just say, I've talked about this on

1948
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: the show.

1949
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 4: Before shaking Jarzeni Rosenstrike's hand, that's the one that's the

1950
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 4: hardest handshake of my life. So when you see what

1951
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 4: he did to Alistair Rovarim's lip, it's like that almost

1952
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: happened in my hand and.

1953
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: We were just shaking hands. So what do you have

1954
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: for us, Curtis?

1955
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 4: We got rosen Strike number nine in the world plus

1956
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 4: two point forty taken on fourth rank Pavlovitch the Modust

1957
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 4: two ninety eight favorite man.

1958
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 11: I think I think Kenny pretty well nailed this one.

1959
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 11: I got to agree with him on it. I think

1960
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 11: Pavlovich is dangerous. Of course, he's got like the crazy

1961
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 11: ape index reach going on here, and of course a

1962
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 11: willingness to engage and get in there. But to me,

1963
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 11: he's almost reminds me a little bit of an old

1964
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 11: school like uberhem type thing, where it's like he loves

1965
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 11: to be the hammer, but then as soon as he

1966
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 11: starts getting tagged up, there's like a almost like a

1967
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 11: gun shy factor that starts kicking in and he kind

1968
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 11: of will turn away and things like that. And a

1969
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 11: guy with the kickboxing background of Rosen I think is

1970
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 11: the perfect person to kind of accommodate some of those

1971
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 11: fears that you're gonna get from Pavlovich. I could definitely

1972
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 11: see a big counter strike or something like that from

1973
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 11: Rosen Strike there. I mentioned earlier times where I'll disagree

1974
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 11: with the odds makers, and this is probably one I

1975
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 11: would say Pavlovitch should be the favorite. He shouldn't be

1976
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 11: a three to one favorite, And for the money, I'm

1977
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 11: going rosenstrike on this one. I think he can catch

1978
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 11: him and get it done.

1979
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 4: Interesting both kind of like Biggie Boy Jargino Rosenstrike and

1980
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 4: by the way, Sergey Pavlovitch most intimidating guy for me

1981
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 4: in the Fighter meetings now superseding Roman Delidzay. I'm just

1982
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 4: so nervous interviewing that guy, short and sweet. I promise

1983
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 4: no further questions. You're on all right? Comain event Kenny

1984
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,879
Speaker 4: at middleweight, Shara Magamette minus one ninety eight, number fifteen.

1985
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 4: Michael vedam Page is plus one sixty four. So I

1986
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 4: think MVP got married last weekend. Charl Bullet returning after

1987
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 4: that knockout of the year candidate double spinning backfist against

1988
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 4: Armen Petrozzi on he is four and oh in the

1989
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 4: UFC Curtis fifteen to zero overall MVP of course in

1990
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 4: the rankings now despite a loss his last time out.

1991
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 4: It came to Ian the Shadow Gary at UFC three

1992
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 4: to zero three. Curtis, we'll have you lead us off

1993
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 4: on the comain event, and then Kenny you can lead

1994
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 4: us on the headliners. What do we make of this one?

1995
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 4: Curtis Hoglan Shara Bullet the two to one favorite.

1996
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 11: Man, I was torn on this one. I think this

1997
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 11: is probably one of the more exciting matchups on the card,

1998
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 11: but it's also one of the ones that's the hardest

1999
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 11: for me to predict how it's going to play out.

2000
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,839
Speaker 11: And I think a lot of that comes from two

2001
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 11: extremely dynamic strikers. You're going to get some amount of

2002
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 11: variability in the turnout and like an unpredictable factor there.

2003
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 11: I would say Shara, given like another one or two

2004
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 11: years to develop as a fighter, I would pick him

2005
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 11: all day long. Given where he's at in his career

2006
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 11: and the experience of MVP for plus one sixty four,

2007
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 11: I kind of think he might get it done here.

2008
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 11: I think he might be a hair faster now. He's

2009
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 11: got that long, kind of bladed stance, so susceptible to

2010
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 11: leg kicks things like that. But it's not like he's

2011
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 11: not aware of this.

2012
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 2: Shara.

2013
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 11: Also, I'm sure you guys have seen a little bit

2014
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 11: of the YouTube videos and stuff. There's like an emotional

2015
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 11: component where there's that whole jiu jitsu tournament got heel

2016
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 11: hooked and kind of I don't want to say he

2017
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 11: flipped out, but he certainly lost his cool a little bit.

2018
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 11: And against a frustrating fighter like MVP. That may be

2019
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 11: a big fighter, somebody who can pull you out of

2020
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 11: your cool, out of your game plan.

2021
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

2022
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 11: I'm willing to go MVP on this for plus one

2023
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 11: sixty four. I'll take it. Let's lose some money on him.

2024
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 4: Ken Flow, Michael ven and pays thirty seven years of age.

2025
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 4: I think he is still in movement, as fast a

2026
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 4: fighter as there is in any division. I don't think

2027
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 4: that blitz is a sco slower than it was in

2028
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 4: whatever fighting prime he is removed from in the eyes

2029
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 4: of some fought a couple times in his rookie year

2030
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 4: in the UFC and got hitched a week ago. Now

2031
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 4: he's getting in there with shar bullet. Fascinating comine event

2032
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: and like to know which side of it you fall on.

2033
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree with you on the speed there, John.

2034
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 5: He just he's a very imposing figure up there. You know,

2035
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 5: whether it's his long re sure, the way he presents

2036
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 5: his stance, it tends to throw off a lot of

2037
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 5: guys just that alone, his faint, his ability to blitz

2038
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 5: you at the right time, and him not really being

2039
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 5: so concerned with takedowns here I think we may see

2040
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 5: MVP at his best, or at least have the potential

2041
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 5: to see it. But just like Curtis said, you know,

2042
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 5: to predict exactly what we think is going to happen here,

2043
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 5: and to say that we know what's going to happen here,

2044
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maga Medoff is a very good striker

2045
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 5: as well, and finally, in my opinion, looking very comfortable

2046
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 5: in the octagon now. He kind of has more of

2047
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 5: a karate style of kickboxing, if you will. Now, if

2048
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 5: one person, one fighter here is going to play that better,

2049
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 5: I would have to lean the way of MVP. Now

2050
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 5: he is fighting at middleweight and not welterweight, which I

2051
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 5: think is going to be an advantage for him.

2052
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: I did not know about the wedding thing.

2053
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 5: That kind of is throwing me off a little bit more,

2054
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 5: just because this was a close fight to begin with.

2055
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 5: But we have two fantastic, exciting, fast, dynamic strikers here

2056
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 5: going at it, and to me, it's fascinating.

2057
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna lean towards MVP.

2058
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 5: Why Well, he's the underdog, and when you have a

2059
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 5: fight that's this close, I'm gonna lean the way of

2060
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 5: the underdog here. And I still think we haven't seen

2061
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 5: MVP at his best in the UFC, but this might

2062
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 5: be the fight.

2063
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: Give me the underdog MVP.

2064
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 4: All right, good stuff, the boys are aligned. We get

2065
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,959
Speaker 4: to our middleweight main event. Five rounds from Saudi Arabia

2066
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 4: number two rank contender the former champ Israel out of

2067
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,520
Speaker 4: Sonya minus one seventy or so number five No Sordini

2068
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 4: ma vab plus one forty two. So it has been

2069
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 4: six years, as we said off the top of the show,

2070
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 4: since Dasanya found himself at a non title fight. He's

2071
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 4: lost two in a row, three of his last four, Kenny,

2072
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be really interesting to see how auDA Sonia

2073
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 4: competes here in what is undeniably a critical spot for him.

2074
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 4: Mom on an absolute tear. Who do you like in

2075
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 4: the headliner comes Saturday Night Kid?

2076
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2077
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 5: So, you know, for imov Off, I think he needs

2078
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 5: to fight very aggressively in this one. Sometimes he likes

2079
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,799
Speaker 5: to hang back, and maybe that's because sometimes he fears

2080
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 5: the takedowns a little bit and looks to try to

2081
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 5: counter slow the guy down then kind of use his

2082
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 5: striking in the clancher from the outside. Now, I don't

2083
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 5: think he needs to worry about that here against Israel

2084
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 5: Auta Sonya and vice versa as well. I don't think

2085
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 5: at Asanya necessarily has to be so concerned with the

2086
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 5: takedown game of a mov Off. You know, when I

2087
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 5: look at them as strikers, I think Imavov might have

2088
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 5: more power. I think he might be more effective in

2089
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 5: close with like let's say, a plumber ty clinch. But

2090
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 5: Adasanya is going to be the slicker guy, and that's

2091
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 5: the game he has to play here. People may not

2092
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 5: want to hear this, but I think for Adasanya to

2093
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 5: win this fight, it almost may have to look a

2094
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 5: little bit boring. Why he has to play the role

2095
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 5: of the technice here. If he starts to throw down

2096
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 5: or get emotional here against the Malvof, He's just gonna

2097
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 5: play right into Immulvoff's game and allow Mavof to land

2098
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 5: some big strikes and hurt Izzy. So Izzy's got to

2099
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 5: use those long range strikes, the leg kicks, the teeps

2100
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 5: to the body, the jab especially to set everything up.

2101
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: And the big.

2102
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 5: Concern for me, even though I'm picking Izzy, I'll release

2103
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 5: that now I am picking Izzy.

2104
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Is a city kickboxing. They all tend to do the

2105
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 2: same thing.

2106
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 5: They'll lean back with their chin up as they try

2107
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 5: to exit.

2108
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 2: We saw it with Volkanovski. He paid for it against

2109
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: a Poia.

2110
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 5: We saw it against Adasanya Well, he paid for it

2111
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 5: in his last fight against DDP when he was getting

2112
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,759
Speaker 5: hit with hooks and overhand shots. Those are the shots

2113
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 5: that you're that you're going to open yourself up to. Now,

2114
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 5: the other thing you could do is kind of duck

2115
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 5: down and try to swing it well knees and kickstart

2116
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 5: to come. So if you had to pick between those

2117
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 5: two things, if you're not just gonna keep your hands

2118
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 5: up and tuck your chin, I would probably do what

2119
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 5: the city kickboxing guys are doing. However, that could be

2120
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 5: a problem against in Avoff. He's gonna have to catch

2121
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 5: out for that. I'm picking Izzy here, but I think

2122
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 5: there's value here in a mov off. I'm a little

2123
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,799
Speaker 5: nervous intuition wise.

2124
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel a little funny about this one.

2125
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 2: But a big fan of Busy, so I hope he

2126
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: pulls it off.

2127
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 4: He releases his israel odess on yes selection Now, I'm

2128
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 4: just gonna want to know, like, are we still supposed

2129
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 4: to be buying bitcoin every day ninety nine.

2130
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 2: Should I still be buying this? Maybe you can answer

2131
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: that yes, Okay.

2132
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 4: By the way, business manager for the Anakinformed podcast, Jason

2133
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 4: and just came in here to deliver two messages. He's

2134
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 4: a big Curtis Hogland fan, so that's a good sign.

2135
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 4: And then brought me a cup of black coffee, nice

2136
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 4: and hot in the middle of the show.

2137
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: What a fucking egg, all right.

2138
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 4: Curtis Imavov has not lost since a main event setback

2139
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 4: against Sean Strickland. That was early twenty twenty three, and

2140
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,440
Speaker 4: that was at light heavyweight.

2141
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 2: He's never been knocked out.

2142
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 4: Certainly made a big statement against Brendan Allen back in September.

2143
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 4: Three straight wins, all of the high quality Roman delieds

2144
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 4: a Jared cannoneer ba of course, none to be bigger

2145
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 4: than the one he can secure this weekend. Your thoughts

2146
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 4: on him against Izzy come Saturday night?

2147
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 11: Man, So I mentioned the MVP fight was like one

2148
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 11: of the harder ones to pick for me on the card.

2149
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 11: This is probably the hardest one to pick on the card.

2150
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 11: I have flip flopped on this in just the last

2151
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 11: like twelve hours, probably about three different times. Kenny touched

2152
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 11: on something here that I was noticing just in the breakdowns,

2153
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 11: And of course that's Outasnya's propensity to lean straight back.

2154
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 11: Given the nasty one two that Masterdine throws very similar

2155
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 11: to Sean Strickland. Actually his one two now not with

2156
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 11: the same volume, but he throws it in a pretty

2157
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 11: similar manner. I was wondering if you evolved might actually

2158
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 11: catch him with that. You gotta wonder if Father Time

2159
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Speaker 11: starts to become a factor a little bit. I can't.

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Speaker 11: I'm not gonna say izzy like the mileage is starting

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01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 11: to rack up and like be very noticeable. But I

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01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 11: do think in the Dreka's fight that he was I

2163
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 11: won't even say a half a step slower, We'll say

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01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 11: a quarter of a step slower. But there was just something,

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01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,919
Speaker 11: there was just something that wasn't there in the striking

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01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 11: that used to be there. I guess you could call

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01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 11: it like the IT factor or whatever you want to

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Speaker 11: chalk it up to, but I just I didn't see it.

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01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 11: I don't see it anymore. So for that, I mean,

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Speaker 11: I'll keep it short and sweet here. I'm gonna and

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01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 11: for the drama. Since we've been on the same page.

2172
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 11: I'm bone em of off. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Askriing stiff as a board. All right, my favorite part

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Speaker 2: of the show. If I could be a part of

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Speaker 2: any segment on this god forsaken program, it would be

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Speaker 2: one time to just take part and place your bets.

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Speaker 4: including Kenflow's mug on a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Those T shirts.

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Speaker 4: All Right, you guys have one thousand dollars an American

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Speaker 4: dollars to spend. It is UFC Fight Night Attasani versus

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Speaker 4: e Mob Bob, the prop King Curtis Hogland wants to

2188
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 4: get in here.

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01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 2: Look at this with his UFC Fight Night. I'll lit

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01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 2: up in the back. Man.

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Speaker 4: This dude's threatening to get a return invite. All right,

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01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 4: A thousand bucks? You got one band, Curtis Hoglan, how

2193
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 4: are you spending your money man.

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Speaker 11: I figured I'd pull out all the stops here. The

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01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 11: goal is to come in, make everybody some dough, and

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Speaker 11: then get an invite to come back.

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Speaker 2: That's where you go.

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Speaker 11: That's a Christmas present from the friend's mom, So got

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01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 11: to give her some props there for that. So we're

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01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 11: gonna take two thousand bucks. We're gonna split it three ways.

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Speaker 11: I'm not actually a big parlay player, but this one

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01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 11: had me a little interested. I'm gonna take Naimov and

2203
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 11: Norma go Medov, slap them together for a parlay. I

2204
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 11: think it was round like plus one oh five something

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01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 11: in that ballpark. We're gonna put five hundred bucks on him. Okay,

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01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 11: the of parlay, Yeah, exactly, there you go.

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01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 2: That's good.

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01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 11: Next we're gonna go with the prop plays I was

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Speaker 11: asking about. I was torn on the Padlovich Rosen strike.

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01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 11: I almost did both of them inside the distance. You're

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01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 11: probably gonna get plus money hedge it out. But I

2212
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 11: was like, you know what, let's let's just do the

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01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 11: under one and a half. It's minus two thirty. Let's

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01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 11: do you two hundred and fifty bucks on it. We're

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01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 11: gonna put a quarter down, all right, and then last,

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01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 11: but not least, I guess I'll let my nuts hang

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01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 11: against old Kenny Floory and we're going to Emovov plus

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01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 11: one forty five two.

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01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 4: I like that, So no Sordini Mabov straight for two

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01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty. And then it's under one and a

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01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 4: half rounds for the heavyweights at minus one thirty.

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01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

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01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 11: I'm going under one and a half yeah, minus two

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01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 11: thirty two ft yes, cool.

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01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 4: And then of course the two legger on Naimov and

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01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 4: Normago MetOp. All right, can Flow get one thousand dollars

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01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 4: to spend. I'll update the results in a in a

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01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 4: week or so for you FC three twelve. But first

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01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 4: things first, Ken Flow, how you spending your money?

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01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeod boy? All right, here we go. Let's sell.

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01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 5: Give me five hundred dollars on nai mov. Okay, give

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01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 5: me three hundred on sayid Nermaga metof yep, you call

2233
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 5: them big nerm?

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01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,839
Speaker 2: Is that no? Little nerm? I don't know anyway.

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01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 5: All right, A little sprinkle, a little sprinkle, little sprits,

2236
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 5: little sprits. One hundred dollars on roses, strike, one hundred

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01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 5: dollars on MVP.

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01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 2: Let's go, Oh oh, that's good.

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01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, I just you know, I'm thinking about big norma

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01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 4: Dumont right now, and you know, I mean.

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01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 2: Maybe that gets.

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01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 4: You know, I gotta think Brian Petrie's going to ingest

2243
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 4: this today, you know, as he is morning. So it's

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01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 4: good that we drop a big norm for you, Brian.

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01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 4: I can't wait to have you back, buddy. But an

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01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:31,839
Speaker 4: outstanding job by Curtis Hogland at mad Max Meridian. Curtis,

2247
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 4: does your cell phone number begin three one four by chance.

2248
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 11: Used to till I switched it to a Tennessee area code.

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01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 11: That's where the rest of the family lives. Okay 'al

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Speaker 11: close to Nashville nine three one brother, all right, but

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01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 11: he still reps the three one four. You really appreciate

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01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 11: you hopping on on short notice. You undeniably have earned

2253
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 11: a return trip. Thank you very much.

2254
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 4: Wish you all the best with your bets and uh,

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Speaker 4: don't be a stranger, buddy, will be in touch.

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01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for hopping on.

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01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me boys, love you good stuff.

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01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 2: All right.

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01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 3: There.

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01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 4: He is Curtis Hogland at mad Max Meridian. And it

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01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 4: is interesting to hear from some of our listeners and

2262
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 4: viewers and some of the guys that I've reached out to,

2263
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 4: you know, one guy started listening episode one hundred and

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01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,919
Speaker 4: sixty seven and twenty eighteen, and here we are episode

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01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 4: five hundred and thirty four or whatever it is, tyred

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01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 4: Woody coming up here in a minute, hopefully. I just

2267
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,480
Speaker 4: want to ask you real quickly about a pretty outstanding

2268
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 4: fight that was turned in between Paul Hughes and ousman

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01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 4: Nermago metov All the rage majority decision. You know, I

2270
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 4: didn't think it was nip and tuck necessarily, but I

2271
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 4: think both guys saw their stocks rise.

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01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 2: Did you happen to see the fight? I did not

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01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 2: see the fight.

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01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 5: I caught some highlights, but yeah, heard it was a

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01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 5: really great fight. Heard it was very close Sajabib inviting

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01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 5: Paul Hughes and his yeah family over to Dagistan.

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01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 2: Which was really cool.

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01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 5: So a lot of respect out of both of those guys.

2279
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 5: But heard it was a great fight.

2280
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 2: That Normongo metoff team.

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01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 4: They really are so humble, and I understand that Morob

2282
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 4: dwalash Willy called umar Hermongo Medof's humility into question multiple

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01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 4: time and the lead up to their fight. But Usman

2284
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 4: or Mago Metov. You can see just immediately putting Paul

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01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 4: Hughes over. I really appreciated the way he sort of

2286
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 4: handled the graciousness in victory. And uh, even if usman

2287
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 4: didn't think the fight was necessarily as close as some

2288
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 4: people did. And Paul Hughes just an absolute warrior, you know,

2289
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 4: and a great ambassador for his promotion for his country

2290
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 4: and everything else. All Right, we are hopeful to be

2291
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 4: joined by Tyron Woodley and talk a little bit about

2292
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 4: the g FL.

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01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 2: You know what Tyron mentioned, by the way, and I'm asking.

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01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 4: About it, he has a golden visa in Dubai, so

2295
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 4: he can be there for like ten years.

2296
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 2: Oh nice, I don't know if you did you ever?

2297
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 4: I mean you lived in Brazil for six months. I

2298
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 4: mean yeah, not to suggest that Brazil has a golden

2299
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 4: visa per se, but did you ever have any long

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01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 4: term visa that allowed you to know?

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01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: No, But you know what's cool about Dubai is there's

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01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 5: no there's no taxes. If you lived there, if you

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01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,879
Speaker 5: set up shop over there, it's very tex I guess,

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01:44:58,600 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 5: well that's what's.

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Speaker 4: Kennedy interesting, right, Like how much time is I know,

2307
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 4: Hobby or Mendez spends a lot of time there. I

2308
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 4: know Tyrone Woodley spends a lot of time there, but

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01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 4: Kane Velaskez I don't think is going to be over

2310
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 4: there indefinitely, right, you know, I don't know exactly what

2311
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 4: is going to happen with all of that. So we

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01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 4: are going to wait about five more minutes as we're

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01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 4: live for Tyrone Woodley, and if not, maybe he will

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01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 4: join us later today.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget.

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01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 4: We will be live with Jeremy Stevens on the Anicin

2317
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 4: Floor and Podcast YouTube channel one hour from now to

2318
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 4: discuss his big BKFC victory and to also discuss the

2319
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 4: potential of a fight for him with Connor McGregor.

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01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 2: It's so interesting that.

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01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 4: And I don't know when it was, and maybe Cody

2322
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 4: can chase this when Connor MacGregor turned around faithfully as

2323
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,879
Speaker 4: that press conference and said, who.

2324
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 2: The fuck is that guy? Right?

2325
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 4: One of the greatest utterances is that guy in UFC

2326
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 4: press conference history. And yet isn't it poetic and prophetic

2327
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 4: and perhaps ironic if that's the right adjective that However,

2328
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 4: many years later, Lil Heathen drops a cocaine Connor on

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01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 4: you and with all the alliteration in the world and

2330
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 4: could potentially have that fight. David Feldman says, that's the

2331
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 4: fight that Connor wants. And I didn't intend to say this.

2332
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 4: I was actually going to go UFC three twelve here,

2333
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 4: but let me just say this, right, So, Connor McGregor,

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01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 4: I believed, in an interview with the SCHMOE and he

2335
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 4: said that the UFC was not interested in him fighting

2336
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 4: Logan Paul. Right now, Connor has sort of suggested in

2337
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 4: some part that it would be an exhibition. I forget

2338
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 4: the exact word that he used, right, but you can't

2339
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 4: be the least bit surprised that the UFC has no

2340
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,639
Speaker 4: appetite for him in a boxing setting. You know, they

2341
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 4: do have his rights in combat sports, and I know

2342
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 4: we all should be thankful for Connor McGregor, right, and

2343
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 4: certainly in terms of me and my family.

2344
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:52,600
Speaker 2: And my livelihood.

2345
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 4: He has been inexorably linked, I think, to that and

2346
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 4: helping grow the sport of mixed martial arts. But if

2347
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 4: you're the UFC, you don't care about the TKO banner

2348
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,759
Speaker 4: and the WWE connection. You want to see Connor McGregor

2349
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 4: fight Dan Hooker. You don't want to see him fight

2350
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 4: Logan Paul. It's certainly not going to expedite his return

2351
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 4: to the octagon to have him compete with you know,

2352
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,480
Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty five pounds Logan.

2353
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 5: Paul, right, right, And you know, for me it also

2354
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 5: it just brings up more questions as to how serious

2355
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 5: is he about this? So how serious he is he

2356
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 5: about getting back to fighting or even MMA for that matter.

2357
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 5: And I don't know, man, I think it's gonna be

2358
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 5: tough to get him back into the cage or get

2359
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 5: him back into a ring or whatever it is. You know,

2360
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 5: I think he might be more into fun fights and

2361
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 5: making money and that's totally fine, But maybe to expect

2362
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 5: him to say, hey, I'm going to make a run

2363
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 5: at being a world champion again, that that's that's gonna be.

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 2: A big ask.

2365
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 4: I think I've been wrong a lot, and I'm not

2366
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 4: some predictor or some prognosticator, but you've been here for

2367
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 4: I think all but one of these five hundred and

2368
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 4: thirty four episodes, and I think you would agree that

2369
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 4: the take that I have been most wrong on has

2370
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 4: been Connor McGregor's MMA legacy, his desire to improve his

2371
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 4: body of work on paper, the competitive spirit and the

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01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 4: mixed martial artist that resides within I thought would drive

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01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 4: him back to the UFC. And I didn't even even

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01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 4: intend to talk about this necessarily today. But when I

2375
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 4: think about that interview that I saw, and his desire

2376
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 4: for a Logan Paul fight and now the Jeremy Stevens fight,

2377
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 4: it is deflective of the real business that is there

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01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 4: for him in the octagon against Michael Chandler or anybody else,

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01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 4: you know. And I don't know that I've ever been

2380
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 4: more wrong in terms of my insistence Kenny that he

2381
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 4: was not going to enjoy retirement as much if he

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01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 4: didn't come back and get another MMA scalp or two.

2383
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 4: And now if you ask me, is he ever going

2384
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 4: to compete in the UFC again, I'd probably say no.

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01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,839
Speaker 5: Well, well, John, you've been around since when Connor McGregor

2386
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 5: had his first fight, and I think that I was

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01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 5: definitely in that same camp for a little bit, because

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01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 5: there most certainly is a martial artist within Connor McGregor.

2389
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 5: There is this guy that wants to test himself, who

2390
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 5: has that competitive fire and who has shown that over

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01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 5: the course of his career. But so much has changed

2392
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 5: at this point where I don't know. You know, I

2393
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 5: don't know if we if we ever get him back,

2394
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 5: but it certainly would be nice to see that guy,

2395
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 5: not to just see him compete.

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01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to just see him compete.

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01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 5: I want to see that old Connor McGregor come back

2398
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 5: and take things, you know, very seriously, because he is

2399
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 5: a force of nature man. To see what he has

2400
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 5: accomplished over the over the course of his career when

2401
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 5: he is serious and when he is dedicated.

2402
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 2: And motivated, that's a scary dude.

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01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 5: And you know, I think I think a lot of people,

2404
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:46,759
Speaker 5: but I'm not crazy to see it.

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01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,520
Speaker 4: It's crazy to think that we could ever feel shortchanged

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01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 4: by a guy that has done so much right what

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01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 4: makes martial arts. But you mentioned the money, and I

2408
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 4: don't know what his net worth is, but at some

2409
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 4: point you have to wonder aloud if it's not the

2410
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 4: spotlight that is driving him back, right, because certainly he

2411
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 4: is a part owner of BKFC, right, and he is omnipresent.

2412
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 4: You see him all over the place, and anytime he

2413
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 4: pushes anything out there on social media, of course it

2414
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,520
Speaker 4: is going to be repurposed.

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01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: But I don't know that the goal is money.

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01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 4: If you're trying to fight Jeremy Stevens in BKFC, maybe

2417
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 4: it's just being noncommittal into totality to an eight or

2418
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 4: twelve week mixed martial arts training camp and everything that

2419
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 4: that might entail, right, depending on who the matchup was, right,

2420
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't think Michael Chandler's gonna wrestle right

2421
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 4: a little bit?

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01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 2: Right? No?

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01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 5: And I think partially I think you're partially correct, right,

2424
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 5: because it's also about like, all right, how much time

2425
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 5: do I need to put into this thing to make

2426
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:42,919
Speaker 5: the most amount of money possible?

2427
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 2: Right?

2428
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 5: And that way, so to dedicate yourself to an MMA

2429
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 5: camp is a lot more time and effort to make,

2430
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 5: you know the same amount, and say, let me put

2431
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 5: four weeks into just boxing. I'm gonna it's gonna be

2432
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 5: way easier in my body and I'll probably make just

2433
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 5: as much, you know. So I don't know, you know,

2434
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 5: it's it's a tough one. It's a tough one, all right.

2435
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 4: Well, we will see what happens with with Connor McGregor,

2436
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 4: and later today we'll be live with Jeremy Stevens. Actually

2437
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:10,959
Speaker 4: about fifty three minutes from now over on the Endicamploring

2438
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 4: podcast YouTube channel and just got to feel good for

2439
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 4: the iow in Jeremy Stevens Right. He said that there

2440
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 4: was a time in his career where he lost a

2441
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 4: fight and he didn't hear from his mother nor his dad,

2442
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 4: and I think he is somewhat of a mentality right now.

2443
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 4: That's like f everybody, you know, and it's just nice

2444
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 4: to see him get that shine because I don't know

2445
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 4: where I read it or who said it, and I

2446
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 4: trot it out there a lot.

2447
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 2: They say the most basic human need is to feel.

2448
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 4: Appreciated, and you know, I've tried very hard to like

2449
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 4: not need to be validated, but it does feel good,

2450
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 4: you know, when you get that appreciation. And even if

2451
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 4: I don't maybe get it from my bosses or my

2452
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 4: producers as much as I would like, you know, I

2453
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 4: get it from the UFC fan base and it drives

2454
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 4: me and it gives me confidence when I go to

2455
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 4: the broadcast booth, and I think for Jeremy Stevens Right

2456
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 4: to be the talk of the town, to speak to

2457
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 4: begin twenty twenty five, to do what he did on

2458
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 4: a UFC Dark Week and have everybody talking about him

2459
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 4: as a guy, as you know, who goes back to

2460
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 4: like the Josh Near days, who has been totally married

2461
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 4: to the game for a quarter century. Right, think about

2462
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 4: the Halfayo dos Aos fight in two thousand and eight, Like,

2463
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 4: can't help but feel good for this guy to get

2464
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 4: all this shot.

2465
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's nuts.

2466
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 5: I mean when he was in the UFC at like

2467
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 5: nineteen or twenty years old, and Jeremy Stevens has carried

2468
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 5: that gameness and that passion for fighting to the present day.

2469
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 2: And to see him get that win.

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01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 5: In an auditorium where everybody in arena, where everybody was

2471
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 5: chanting Eddie's name, and to get it done with some

2472
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 5: nasty striking, I think that's that's what Jeremy Stevens lives for.

2473
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 5: So I thought it was a fantastic win against another

2474
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 5: obviously dangerous guy in Eddie Alvarez, and good for him, man,

2475
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 5: is it is very rare to see a guy compete

2476
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 5: in combat sports for as long as Jeremy Stevens and

2477
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 5: to have this level of success.

2478
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Where you do have to prove it time and time again.

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01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 5: John, You know, to your point about feeling validated, Every

2480
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 5: fight is different, and every fight is a different challenge

2481
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 5: and to go out there and do it and maybe

2482
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 5: not get some great results, and then to come back

2483
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 5: after all these years and get a win in a

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01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 5: huge setting like that.

2485
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 4: That's huge man, different weight classes. You think about him

2486
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 4: fighting Jose Aldo back in the day. I mean in

2487
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 4: some part he was a UFC lightweight during your era,

2488
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 4: was he not?

2489
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, indeed, yeah.

2490
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk to Jeremy Stevens later. Sorry, we

2491
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 4: couldn't track down Tyre Woodley, he said one second, but

2492
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 4: we are live and we've given him about ten minutes.

2493
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 4: But if you don't know, he was the number one

2494
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 4: pick of this Global Fight League, So we will effort

2495
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 4: him over the next week or so to try to

2496
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 4: hear from t wood who had ghosted MMA for a

2497
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 4: little bit. But it's good to see him getting back

2498
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 4: to his roots. Thank you to our guest today, Ray Longo.

2499
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 4: Hopefully he was okay with the hard hitting nature of

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 4: our interview today. Thanks to Curtis Hoglan stepping up and

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01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 4: stepping in for Brian Petrie. We all say a prayer

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 4: for the Peatree family. Thanks to our leaf Well family,

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01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 4: Emily Fisher and doctor June Shin. Thanks to Josh con

2504
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 4: and thanks to all of you for joining us live

2505
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 4: over the last two hours. Far from done today though,

2506
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 4: we'll be back at about forty five minutes live with

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01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens and don't forget next week all hands on

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 4: dak UFC three twelve du plus C versus Strickland Act two.

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01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 4: You can go to UFC Fight Pass in about a

2510
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 4: week and Ken Flow and I will watch that fight

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01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 4: back and provide some running commentary as well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to our executive producer Cody Marrow and everybody at DraftKings,

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01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Magic Spoon and everybody else Squervo, we will talk to

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Speaker 2: you guys two pm stern over on the Anticonflooring Podcast

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel with that for kem Flum, John and thanks

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