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Speaker 1: The Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star

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Speaker 1: Credit Union, featuring Jaguar senior writer John Osher and executive

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Speaker 1: producer Dave Decandis. This week's guest is an interesting story

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Speaker 1: to me. He's a guy who flashed on the scene

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Speaker 1: to use that cliche in two thousand seventeen and then

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Speaker 1: was not as productive, sort of disappeared at times a

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Speaker 1: little bit in two thousand eighteen and nineteen, but really

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Speaker 1: has come on this year to be a key part

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Speaker 1: of this offense. I think by now most Jaguars fans

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Speaker 1: can deduce that I'm talking about wide receiver Heal and

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Speaker 1: Cole on this week's of his own podcast, Kilan, I

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Speaker 1: considered this for you a big year coming in. Did

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Speaker 1: you feel that way? Did you feel like it was

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Speaker 1: a big year and an important year? I guess? And

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Speaker 1: are you quote satisfied with this year? Even though I

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Speaker 1: know satisfied as the word you guys used, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I knew that they was gonna for sure to make

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Speaker 1: us get through the season. So I took advantage of

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Speaker 1: the time that we had off and was continuing to

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Speaker 1: work through workout and stuff like that, uh in my

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Speaker 1: through and make it a big season. Where are you

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Speaker 1: better now than you were as a rookie, because you

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Speaker 1: were good as a rookie, but it strikes me you're

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Speaker 1: a different player. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Just um, I guess

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Speaker 1: be uncomfortable rookie year. I just came straight from division

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Speaker 1: was just a whole different speed and just it was

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Speaker 1: I had to slow it down and actually figure out

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Speaker 1: what I was adapting to. I felt like my rookie year,

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Speaker 1: I was really just playing football trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: rather than really knowing what I was doing that was

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Speaker 1: making me say successful. So I just had to continue

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Speaker 1: to go through all the situations that you go through

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Speaker 1: as a as an athlete and just figure out what

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Speaker 1: I was comfortable with doing. I want to get to

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Speaker 1: that process here in a second. But for people who

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Speaker 1: don't know, and I know you've talked about it before,

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Speaker 1: but I'm interested with four years of perspective, how big

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Speaker 1: of a difference was that jump you made in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen. I know you sort of knew it then,

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Speaker 1: but with four years to look back on it, how

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Speaker 1: extreme was that leap? I mean, really, it's just uh,

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Speaker 1: when you when you when you started levels that like

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Speaker 1: do you do you want to stuff like that you

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Speaker 1: get I want to say better coaching. Really it's just

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Speaker 1: not really better coaching, just coaches with more experience. Coaches

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Speaker 1: have been here, they're even players. You've You've had players

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Speaker 1: that have been the different coaches. They travel around do

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Speaker 1: you one do so from school to school, so you

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Speaker 1: learn a lot, You get to experience a lot. And

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Speaker 1: then most of those people that you meet in D

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Speaker 1: uh experience that I didn't get to get while I

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Speaker 1: So when I got here, I learned it from the

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Speaker 1: from the players that was on the team and the coaches.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just proud that I was able to adapt fast.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't fast enough, but it was definitely it could

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Speaker 1: have been worse than definitely. Um, definitely grateful for the

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Speaker 1: process that I've been through. Your road is fascinating to

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Speaker 1: me because it's not a normal rookie free agent road.

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Speaker 1: You came in in seventeen and had success and then

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Speaker 1: And was it difficult at times the last couple of years, Um,

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Speaker 1: not really. It was just really just playing football and uh,

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Speaker 1: playing my role. The last few years. I just feel

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Speaker 1: my milestones I got and I'm assuming you're not going

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Speaker 1: two thousand yards in the season, whatever it's. I don't

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Speaker 1: Season too long to do that college? Yeah, we can

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Speaker 1: do that, but season way too long to be trying

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Speaker 1: to set goes for a seventeen week season. It's more

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Speaker 1: the goal is we boy, we try to win and

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Speaker 1: do the best you can within your games. Try to

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Speaker 1: be on the field each week, right, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: play your role. Now, when Jay talked to the media

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Speaker 1: this week, Coach Gruden, he talked a lot about he

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Speaker 1: has asked you to play more inside, more in the

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Speaker 1: that's as honest as my inns can get. I really

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Speaker 1: I don't see a difficulty in playing inside or outside.

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Speaker 1: I honestly think it's the same thing, same routes. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, it's just more people in the inside than

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't bother in there. Guy, don't like it

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Speaker 1: But I mean it hurts. I ain't gonna I ain't

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Speaker 1: I ain't getting up smiling clapping my hands when I

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get hit. I'm not talking like that,

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Speaker 1: not at all, not running into contact. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: it must be fun to be a part of this year. Definite.

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Speaker 1: It's very exciting just to know that whoever gets the

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Speaker 1: Chris Thompson shout out to them. They're a smaller tight

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Speaker 1: all I saw. Now, you say you like contact and

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Speaker 1: you see what lavisca can do in the backfield, do

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Speaker 1: you lobby for that? Is that keep in Cole's future? No,

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Speaker 1: he got it as long as as long as Labisca

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Speaker 1: he's the best fit for us, So I would definitely

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Speaker 1: receiver room. I don't know you guys that well. Who

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Speaker 1: keeps it white? Who's the jokester? Is that you? Period?

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that is a hundred and ten percent

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Speaker 1: the person? And final questions about your other teammates, what's uh?

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Speaker 1: DJ Shark seems like a quiet guy. Is he always

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Speaker 1: M hmm? It depends. Did you ask him this question already?

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Speaker 1: Did you? Does he know that y'all know what y'all think?

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Speaker 1: He's like that? Yes, DJ? That uh, not personally, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's not over the top. Yeah, he liked that

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Speaker 1: it like that, all right. Fair You've been with Keenan

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Speaker 1: now for four years. Keenan mccarde. Jaguars fans love talking

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Speaker 1: about keen and he's the guy. Where has he helped

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Speaker 1: you the most? Would you be the guy you are

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Speaker 1: right now the receiver without him? I guess not at all.

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Speaker 1: again for being you and for being on with us.

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