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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into the best podcast available, Episode

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Speaker 1: number nine, just forty eight hours removed from the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty NFL Draft. I'm Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew

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Speaker 1: Gribble and the great Nathan Zagura, happy to give us

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Speaker 1: a few minutes of his time on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: As we break down and go through the Browns NFL

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Speaker 1: of the best podcast available post draft editions. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep coming to you every Tuesday, every Thursday, because the

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Speaker 1: every Thursday. We're gonna continue the bp A rolling along.

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Speaker 1: And first things first, guys, the NFL Draft is in

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Speaker 1: the books. Just a quick thought from each of you.

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Speaker 1: Gribbs will start with you on what, in my opinion

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Speaker 1: was was a very successful weekend for Andrew Barry, Kevin

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Speaker 1: it just felt like there was a plan in place

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Speaker 1: the board couldn't have fallen better in my opinion, for

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Speaker 1: the Browns on that first day. You know, maybe some

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Speaker 1: Day two and into Day three as well. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think the first ten picks could have gone any

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Speaker 1: better for the Browns. You didn't have to make a

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Speaker 1: move for the number one tackle on your board, uh

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Speaker 1: and Jeddrick Wills. And it turned out that the top

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Speaker 1: and it was almost a vindication of all the mock

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Speaker 1: And I think you're exactly right, and the way that

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Speaker 1: absolutely had a plan. Hey, that's one of the three EPs, right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's the preparation, it's the plan and the process.

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Speaker 1: That was their design when they went into Day one.

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Speaker 1: Wills was their top target. That's who they wanted period.

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Speaker 1: this football team. And uh, you know, you go out,

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Speaker 1: now there's no rush on getting Harrison Bryan on the field.

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Speaker 1: Of course you can, but now you've got three great guys.

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Speaker 1: you're right, Grims, they are high on David and Joeku

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Speaker 1: coming out of Barria with regards to these fifth year

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Speaker 1: options just giving guys a chance to develop and continuing

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Speaker 1: guys we selected. We took seven players in this draft.

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Speaker 1: We start off with Jedrick Wills at tackle, Joe Thomas's

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Speaker 1: the way that Tristan Worth's fell in this draft was

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Speaker 1: just another validation of maybe the combine isn't all it

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Speaker 1: But I think the key pick for me was Derek

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Gribbs, your takeaways from what they did on

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Speaker 1: Day number two, Well, I think outside of the pick

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Speaker 1: of Delpit, I think the trade back in the third

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Speaker 1: round was maybe the best decision they made in in

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Speaker 1: that in that day too, because I think if you're

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Speaker 1: a smart team, I think going into the draft, you

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Speaker 1: know that there's nothing that comes at a better price

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Speaker 1: than a third round than than future draft picks, the

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Speaker 1: future assets. I mean, we thought it was a steel

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Speaker 1: when the Browns traded a very capable and good running

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Speaker 1: back in Duke Johnson that got a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: The brown just had to move back fourteen spots and

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Speaker 1: part with a very late seventh round pick to get

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Speaker 1: a third round pick. That's a huge trade and I

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Speaker 1: think it was maybe uh validation of maybe where the

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Speaker 1: they saw the board playing out at that spot as

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Speaker 1: well where they could afford to make a move back.

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Speaker 1: And I also think that that move back is maybe

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Speaker 1: some where this team is at and thinking about its

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Speaker 1: linebacker room. As I now, you used to pick on

448
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Speaker 1: Jacob phil it's the on the third round, but there

449
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Speaker 1: was an opportunity there to get Zach Bond and the

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Speaker 1: Saints came up and traded him. I think that this

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Speaker 1: team thinks highly of its linebacker room, maybe more of

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Speaker 1: the people expect, and there may be just letting this

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Speaker 1: plan playoff be like, Hey, you used to draft pick

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Speaker 1: on draft picks on linebackers last year. These guys, let's

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Speaker 1: give it some time and let's let's see what they

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Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you talk about the trade back from seventy four to

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Speaker 1: a D eight, and it brings in the question in

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Speaker 1: your mind, what's better than one Arby's roast beef two

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Speaker 1: Arby's roast beef, And the question is what's better than

461
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Speaker 1: one third runner? How about two of them? There you

462
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Speaker 1: go give a and so they were able to move back,

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Speaker 1: and Paul de Podesta basically said the guy that they

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Speaker 1: would have taken at seventy four was Jordan Elliott. And

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Speaker 1: then sure enough they they thought if that he wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: they could get somebody obviously that they felt comfortable with.

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Speaker 1: But sure enough, he still was there for them at

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Speaker 1: eight eight, and so again they get their guy. They

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Speaker 1: moved back, they pick up an asset and Elliott, when

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Speaker 1: you watch his highlights, is incredibly impressive. Closing speed got

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Speaker 1: to where number one that last year at Missouri. He

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Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback, He can be a disruptor

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Speaker 1: in the middle. They love his quickness off the ball,

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Speaker 1: and one thing that was said multiple times in the

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Speaker 1: press comforts and then in the interviews I conduct it afterwards,

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Speaker 1: was we can't wait for Chris Kiffin to get his

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Speaker 1: hands on this kid, because you think about what Chris

478
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Speaker 1: Kiffin did pass for a specialist with the Niners front

479
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Speaker 1: last year, and now he's gonna get this great piece

480
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Speaker 1: of clay to work with and Jorgan Elliott and they

481
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Speaker 1: think that they have somebody that can be special. And

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Speaker 1: not only that, while defensive tackle didn't jump out as

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Speaker 1: a huge need because he got Richardson and Ogan Joeby,

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Speaker 1: and you brought in Billings. We all saw what happened

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Speaker 1: as the year went on last year, and we all

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Speaker 1: saw who was on the field for the Cleveland Browns. Now,

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Speaker 1: this guy comes in as your fourth defensive tackle and

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Speaker 1: you've got Larry in the last year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: We know Sheldon's a veteran. Billings comes in on a

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Speaker 1: short deal, so you needed somebody else in there. And

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Speaker 1: I think this is one where they thought we got

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Speaker 1: somebody who's very good, who's a very a pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that you're looking for. Had when the

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Speaker 1: highest grades of any interior defensive line in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years per Pro Football Focus. So I think

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Speaker 1: they were looking for a very specific skill set and

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Speaker 1: they got it in Elliott, all right. So that was

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Speaker 1: the end of Day two. We move on to Day

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Speaker 1: number three. One pick in the fourth, one in the fifth,

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Speaker 1: and one in the sixth. If only they can all

501
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Speaker 1: be that way. On Day three of the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: year in and year out, the Browns get right to

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Speaker 1: work though in the fourth round at pick number one, fifteen. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There had been a lot of talk. I know, Nathan,

505
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Speaker 1: we had talked about it on the draft show Friday

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Speaker 1: night as we were getting ready to wrap up and

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Speaker 1: go to bed. And then on Saturday morning when you

508
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Speaker 1: woke up, is this where the Browns maybe go after

509
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or you know what else is out

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Speaker 1: there right now, lineback or corner or a pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. They go get a tight end and they

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Speaker 1: get one of the better ones. And Harrison Bryant the

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Speaker 1: tight end out of Florida Atlantic, and Nathan, here's a

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Speaker 1: guy that he just makes place and a big body,

515
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Speaker 1: and we touched on it earlier. That's gonna help this

516
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Speaker 1: tight endrew look good route runner lands. Their line gave

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Speaker 1: him the pro comp of George Kittle, which certainly we

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Speaker 1: would take anything near what Kittle has done for the

519
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: forty niners. But this kid had over a thousand yards

520
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: receiving that hasn't happened for a tight ends. And two

521
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Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen he won the Macky Award as the

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Speaker 1: best tight end in the nation, and it's the first

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Speaker 1: time it's ever happened with the tight end and not

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Speaker 1: in a Power five conference. So he knows this outside

525
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: zone scheme. He is a good and willing blocker. Ran

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Speaker 1: a lot of the outside zone was their base run

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Speaker 1: there under Lane Kiffin. So he comes in and this

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Speaker 1: was a situation where I don't think they were looking

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Speaker 1: for a tight end per se, but he being on

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Speaker 1: the board, they couldn't believe it. They said, we gotta

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Speaker 1: get him. We'll bring him into our program and go

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Speaker 1: that way. I do think receiver slot, corner center, obviously

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Speaker 1: a center for the future was something that they were

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Speaker 1: looking at, but this was they thought too good to

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Speaker 1: be true. And I just want to go roll back

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Speaker 1: real quickly on Phillips and echo something Grip said. I

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Speaker 1: think they like what we have in our in our

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Speaker 1: linebacker room, but they wanted something specific. Again, they were

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Speaker 1: looking for specific traits with these guys Phillips, long, lean, fast, range,

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Speaker 1: e tough, and they like his length in space, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's why they were so drawn to him.

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Speaker 1: And then you get a guy because he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the one it's gonna have to cover the guys like

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Speaker 1: the Harrison Bryants or in our division's case, like the

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrew's, ex cetera. So that's what they were looking

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Speaker 1: for there. But Bryant six or seventy nine against Ohio,

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Speaker 1: Staton stood out as a guy that belonged on that field,

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Speaker 1: and I think he said that was a big game

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Speaker 1: for him. But I love that pick, and I know

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Speaker 1: the Browns were thrilled about it, and I know other

551
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: teams in our division were not thrilled about it. Gribbs.

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Speaker 1: When you take a look then at the Browns pick

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Speaker 1: in pick number five, one sixty overall free from draft,

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Speaker 1: maybe their center of the future and Nick Harris out

555
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: of Washington. And the more that I know, the more

556
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: that I read on him, and the more I see

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00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: about him, the more impressed I am. And here's a

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00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: guy that you know might take a little bit of developing.

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00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: But not only can you play center, you can also

560
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Speaker 1: play guard as well. Yeah, and he can. I think

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Speaker 1: the thing was I think it was maybe he was

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz that put out. If he was a couple

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Speaker 1: inches taller, this would have been a day one or

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Speaker 1: Day two kind of pick. And so I having a

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Speaker 1: skill set like being able to snap the ball in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is very important. And I know I brought

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Speaker 1: this up, maybe uncomfortably with one John Greco back in

568
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: in an earlier podcast edition where when you lost Alex Mac,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're in trouble. I mean you needed a

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Speaker 1: center for that offense. And you know it's not just

571
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Speaker 1: an easy thing for someone to pick up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's a truly different skill set. So I

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00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: think to bringing Nick Nick Harris first off just solidifies

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Speaker 1: that you're okay if a guy like j C, who

575
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: has played through a lot of pain in the last

576
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Speaker 1: couple of years, if he has to go down with

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00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: an injury first off, and then he does have the versatility.

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Speaker 1: So I think if he can play guard, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring him up on game Dan. You've had the expanded

580
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: rosters now where you can have more offensive lineman on

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Speaker 1: your game, dear roster. It's just it's another player where

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Speaker 1: I think that they felt like they were getting him

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Speaker 1: around later than they probably thought they could have, and

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Speaker 1: it was just tough to pass up. And I know

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Speaker 1: offensive line picks, especially on the interior, don't exactly get

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Speaker 1: the get the people go in the same way that

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00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: that a Grant Delta does on day two, but I

588
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: think this was an area of need on a team

589
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: that still does have some question marks at right guard.

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00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I think he will be a

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00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: center and I think that's how they view him long

592
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: term because of the height limitations. And I think you

593
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: know you saw Jeff Shorts what he said about him.

594
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: But here's what Dame Brugo. I think this final sense

595
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: just sums it up. He will be overlooked because he

596
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: lacks ideal NFL measurables, but he has a terrific blend

597
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: of smarts, technique, and agility with a competitive playing temperament

598
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: displaying starter level traits in a zone blocking scheme, and

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00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: Brugler at the third round grade on this kid is

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Speaker 1: natural in his movement and his ability to get to

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00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: the second level, get those double team blocks, which is

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00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: that's what you need to do as a center. That's

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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: why Alex Mack was so successful in the scheme. His

604
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: movement skills were rare. This kid has him. He doesn't

605
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: have that height and that's why he fell. But this kid,

606
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: when you watch him and you watch him in past

607
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: protection nine pass blocking snaps, is a center at Washington

608
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: two sacks allowed. He is strong, he's low. They say

609
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: low man wins. He is low. He's got that leverage.

610
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: But it's the movement skills that really attract the Browns,

611
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: and they feel like, to your point, Grips, they got

612
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: a guy later than he should have gone, but a

613
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: guy that is also specific to their scheme. That's where

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00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: his strengths line up. And I think you go back

615
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: to the plan comment you made at the beginning. They

616
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be here for a while. We are

617
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: working on building an identity. Knowing that we are an

618
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: outside zone football team. We're bringing in guys that fit that.

619
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: We know what we're gonna be on defense under Joe Woods.

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00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: We're bringing in guys that fit that because they are

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00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: building something that has an ideality, that has a planet's

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00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: not oh, let's just get this or that or whatever,

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Speaker 1: willy nilly. They know exactly what they're looking for. They

624
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: did in free agency, they did, and they did it

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00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: in the draft, and I don't think it's a surprise

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00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. No, a good pick, A great pick

627
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: by by the Browns. I think the thing that impressed

628
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: me the most was it's very rare you see a

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00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: team promote someone in their red shirt ear and stripped

630
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: them of the red shirt title. That's not replacing someone

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00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: that's hurt. He flat out proved to everybody on that

632
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: Washington staff he belonged from day one. I don't want

633
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: to be a red shirt. I'm better than these guys.

634
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to force you to play me. And I

635
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said about the work ethic

636
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: and the type of player that he is, especially in

637
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: a position he wasn't supposed to play. I mean he was.

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00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: There aren't many guys who get recruited as centers. They

639
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: usually get converted into centers, but he was a center recruit.

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: Ye that that says he's been doing this for a while. Alright.

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00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Our final pick, pick number six from the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah,

642
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: the only guy that might rival Grant Delpin in terms

643
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: of as a GA enthusiasm. Uh, it would be Donovan

644
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: People's jones. The Browns go get a wide receiver from

645
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: the University of Michigan, a guy that I think a

646
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: lot of people thought might go a little bit higher

647
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: than he went, but a guy that is going to

648
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: help this team, not from not only from an offensive standpoint,

649
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: but clearly in the in the calls with the media

650
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: after he got picked. He's gonna help on special team Z.

651
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. And yes, I was excited Grant. I'm

652
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: not gonna say we got three guys in the top

653
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: ten in this draft, but we got somebody from from

654
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: an athletic standpoint that's probably one of the top ten

655
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: athletes in this draft. I mean, you go back, come

656
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: down of high school. He was the number one wide

657
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: receiver in the country, five star of five stars that

658
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: offers from everywhere. Ended up going to Michigan because that's

659
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: where his father went and he wants to be an

660
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: orthopedic surgeon like his father when his playing days are done.

661
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: So this is a smart young man. But six to

662
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: to fifteen runs a four four forty forty four inch

663
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: vertical over an eleven foot broad jump. I mean you

664
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: talk about just an athletic profile. He had it all.

665
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer said he was the best receiver he's ever

666
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: seen in high school. It did not manifest itself into

667
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: production at Michigan. And they're probably a variety of reasons

668
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: for that. Some would be the quarterback, some could be

669
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: the system, some could be a Donovan people Jones's own doing.

670
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: But he's here now in a sixth round pick where

671
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: there is literally no downside whatsoever. There is only upside,

672
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: And you have an opportunity with this kid because he's

673
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna be unlike, for an athletic profile standpoint, anybody in

674
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: our wide receiver room. And really he's unlike most receivers

675
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And that's how elite he is from

676
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: that standpoint. So if he's willing to put in the

677
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: work and learn, and he's got two veterans and Odell

678
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Beckham and Jarvis Landry who have done more with less,

679
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: even though Odell is an unbelievable athlete in his own right,

680
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: but he can learn a lot about route running, he

681
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: can learn a lot about setting dvs up, he can

682
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: learn a lot about work ethic from those guys, and

683
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna have chat O'Shea there as the coach. If

684
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: they again you talk about good pieces of clay. This

685
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: is as good as it gets. This is you would

686
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: build him. This is central casting. What should have stud

687
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: number one receiver look like? Donovan Peoples Jones is the answer. Now,

688
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on him to put in the work

689
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: and the coaching to get the best out of him.

690
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: And if that happens around a lot of a huge steal.

691
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: At the very least you mentioned it took two points

692
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: to the house. There was a freshman All American first

693
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: punt returning Joe Joe Natsen is gonna have a little

694
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: competition in that regard now. But you have a guy

695
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: that can contribute on special teams, and I'm sure they're

696
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna train him. Priests gonna get his hands on and

697
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: say you're gonna be running down the field using that

698
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: speed in that size, and you're gonna be making place

699
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: for us, and then you can earn your way onto

700
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: the field as the receiver. Ribs. Yeah, I mean this

701
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: is someone who I alwaysn't maybe as excited about Nathan

702
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: pre draft because I the lack of production would concern

703
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: me a little bit, just because you wonder what happened.

704
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: But that's that that goes out the window for me

705
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: in the sixth round, and that's that's the maybe had

706
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: had this been picked number one fifteen, I'd be like,

707
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe let's hope that they're buying on upside.

708
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: But sixth round, I mean, that's what that's all you're

709
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: looking for. I mean, you should have a team where

710
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: you're good enough to you it's a bonus if they

711
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: make the team as a sixth round pick. I mean,

712
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: that's that's just the reality of of where the NFL is.

713
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: This isn't two thousand and sixteen where you're needing your

714
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: six rounders to be major contributors. I mean that you

715
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: need you need these guys to to maybe make the

716
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: team and help you out and have some upside. I

717
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: mean the guy I bring up, and hopefully that this translates,

718
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: is that I would say, similarly recruited, similarly disappointing college career,

719
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: great NFL career is Stefan Diggs. That he was a huge,

720
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: big time recruit, maybe down the level of Donovan People's Jones.

721
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: He had Alabama offers, he had all these offers to

722
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: go every school went to Maryland, you know, similarly, uh,

723
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: non eventful offense like Michigan has, and I think that

724
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: hurt and he just didn't perform all that well. And

725
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: I think he fell in the fifth round. Same thing

726
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: with with Donovan People's jones. I mean the Michigan's office.

727
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: It's stunk and it was tough to watch. And I

728
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: think that that played a partner. But also he's got

729
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: something to prove, uh and and use those traits that

730
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: made him such a good high school recruit, because these

731
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: recruiting services don't miss often. Most of these five star

732
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: recruits become NFL players and no matter what, and that,

733
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: I think that he's got the skill sets to do it.

734
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Now he just has to prove. All right, Let's take

735
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: a look. Now that's the Browns recruiting class. Recruiting class

736
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: draft class. Seven guys, five stars, all around, five stars,

737
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: five indeed all the way around. That's your Brown's draft class.

738
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: It went really well. It also went really well for

739
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: the other three teams in the a f C North Division.

740
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: The Ravens outstanding job. They got some big time players

741
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: in later rounds in addition to a first round guy

742
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: that just fell to them. The Bengals did very well

743
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: for themselves, picking number one in every single round of

744
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: the draft, not trading out of that first number one pick.

745
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: And then the Steelers did well, but they still didn't

746
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: find anybody to back up Big Ben. So I think

747
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: the focus is on the Ravens and the Steelers, both

748
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: of whom significantly upgraded themselves. Grips. Yeah, I mean, first

749
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: of all, I'll just say the Bengals had an incredible draft.

750
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, and that it's just because they just sat.

751
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: I want to know, what what what? Who's the last

752
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: team with the number one pick to just sit and

753
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: pick first in every single round? I can bring that

754
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: up while you talk. I mean, so they just went across.

755
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: They hit a bunch of areas in need, and I

756
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: think they've got three starters at least in their first

757
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: three picks, maybe even four based on their knees. I

758
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: think they had a great draft. Steelers draft was, you know,

759
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: kind of map, but when you think about their first

760
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: round pick was Minca Fitzpatrick, then it all works out.

761
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: I didn't love their fourth I didn't love them adding

762
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: another running back in the fourth round. Like it just

763
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of rhymebacks on that team. But

764
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens just had the most prototypical Ravens draft, just

765
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: drafting guys that you're like, that guy is gonna be tough,

766
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and get Patrick Queen's just gonna be someone we're not

767
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: happy with on Sundays like j K. Dobbins, like why

768
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: why did they even need that guy on their team?

769
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: And there was just so many of those guys at

770
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens pick. But that's the division we're in and

771
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: and that's that's life. I mean that nothing's gonna just

772
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: be handed to you. This isn't the ave they have ceased.

773
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be a tough division no

774
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: matter what, no doubt about it. And the Ravens, you know,

775
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: and this draft had four third round picks, they had

776
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: a second. The first you get Queen, you get Dobbins,

777
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: you get out of Bouquet and exciting interior defensive line prospect.

778
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: They just always reload, and that's what they did. You

779
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: they needed him in a linebacker. They end up getting

780
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen. Do they need really another running back? They

781
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: have Ingram there, but they end up getting JK. Dobbins,

782
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: who you know is gonna thrive for years because Ingram

783
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: does have some tread on his tires. And Devin Daverne

784
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: with his four three speed, another burner for that wide

785
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: receiver room, a guy who caught everything in Texas and

786
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: can make plays. Malie Harrison well known here and on

787
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: and on Ben Reticent even from Michigan, who was a

788
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: very very good guard. You know, they need to try

789
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: to get somebody to replace Marshal Yanda. They did a

790
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: great job. You're right. I think the Bengals hit a

791
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: home run. The Steelers is gonna be more interesting. I

792
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: think they got some interesting guys. I don't know what

793
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool is gonna be in the NFL? Is he

794
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: a receiver? Are they gonna use him as kind of

795
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: a move tight end and somebody who can just stretch

796
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: the scene because the six four runs of four or

797
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: four forty. Maybe maybe that's what they do with him.

798
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: But I found of the of the four drafts, I

799
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: would put them at the bottom again, you factor and

800
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: makeup pactory just like last year. Would say, well, our

801
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: first round pick was Odell Beckham. That makes it look

802
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: a lot better, But I think it was kind of

803
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: symbolic of the division right now. The Ravens are the

804
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: cream of the crop. They had a cream of the

805
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: crop draft. The Bengal are the team that I think

806
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: will be the most improved. They had a great draft.

807
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: We had I thought a great draft as well. And

808
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: the Steelers you have some questions, just like you have

809
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: some questions right now. I think a little bit about

810
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: their long term you know, viability. In this post, Ben

811
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: here and I will say, the best thing that could

812
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: have come out of the weekend outside of the draft

813
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: was that Jamis shunned them to go to the Saints.

814
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: So they don't really have that other plan. And I

815
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: love that, and we we will get to that there.

816
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm hoping for a grible little, a little nugget.

817
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: They're hoping to poke the bear. ESPN Stats and Info.

818
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: The Bengals made the first pick in every round of

819
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: this year's draft, marking the third time the Bengals have

820
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: done it two three and ninety four. No other NFL

821
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: team has done that even once in the common draft

822
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: era since ninete That's awesome, perfect, Yeah, very Bengal thing

823
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: to do, no question. So the a f C North

824
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: gets a little bit better, We'll wait and see how

825
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: it all shakes out on the field. I'd say watch

826
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: out for the Bengals, Like they're going to be right

827
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: back into like seven or eight win territory. Yeah, and

828
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean there they were not as bad as the

829
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: record indicated last year, and now they've got some I

830
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: mean their wide receiver room is arguably the best in

831
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: the division. Yeah. Now they have some really really good

832
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: players and they are going to be a handful for sure.

833
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the entire NFL draft.

834
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: Get a couple of quick thoughts from you guys on this. Uh,

835
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: your best pick from the draft that wasn't Browns related,

836
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: I can't say you may not. You have to come

837
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: up with something else on this podcast other than Grant Delpit.

838
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: All right, Gribbs, I'm going with the last pick of

839
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: the first day, Clyde Edwards Hilaire is gonna be a

840
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: beast for the Chiefs. I mean it's like the most

841
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: perfect marriage of player and team. I mean, like, can

842
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: he be a top five fantasy rain back or we

843
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: are we scouting out that this soon? I think he might.

844
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: In the fantasy rookie drafts, he is the number one

845
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: pick for me without a doubt. Andy Reids already said

846
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: he's better than Brian Westbrook, which is, by the way,

847
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: a great disgrace to say something so prematurely about a

848
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: legend like Brian Westbrook. But yes, he is gonna be insane.

849
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: There's that, by the way, would have been my answer.

850
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: That was the one that I had, Pigs. I'll go

851
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: a different direction, uh, and I'll go with I think

852
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb going to the Cowboys at that point, I

853
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: think he was I thought he was the best receiver

854
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: in the in the draft, and I think that's just

855
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: the steal for them to get him that late, which

856
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: I thought was a really good one. Um Patrick Queen

857
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: would be another if you go into the second round,

858
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: which I think that's where things got a little bit interesting.

859
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: But after us, I love this. The two picks right

860
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield Jr. kJ Hamdler and then you go down

861
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: and you get Jeremy Chin, who a lot of people

862
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: talked about is the last pick of the second round.

863
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be some pretty good players coming

864
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: out of the second round when's done. But quite Clyde

865
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire, you couldn't even make that up. That he

866
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: gets to go to the Chiefs. But one of the

867
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: another weapon it isn't alright in the draft is the

868
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: girl will start with you. Well it really, I'm gonna

869
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: give you multiple because I like to overachieve. But what's

870
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna be great about this or you're gonna love is

871
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: that they're all Green Bay Packers picks. Jordan's Love and

872
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: a J. Dillon back to back are probably the two

873
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: worst first two picks I could have ever imagined in

874
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: my life. I don't know what their problem is with

875
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: people named Aaron, but the disrespect that they continue to

876
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: show Aaron Jones there for everything that that guy does

877
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: is a running back. To get a guy who is

878
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: just basically is he is he a fullback, he's two fifty,

879
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: he's a plotter, and they have Aaron Jones. Oh and

880
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: then instead of drafting somebody in a historic wide receiver draft,

881
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: when you are desperate for wide receiver talent, let's not

882
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers a receiver. That'd be silly. Why don't

883
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: we draft another quarterback? Unbelievable. I thought their draft was

884
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: mind buggling. I mean, you took my answer, but I'll

885
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: audible on on the fly here, and I think the

886
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: the Falcons taking a cornerback at number sixteen when they

887
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to put a wide receiving corp of

888
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: Calfirm Ridley, Ceedee Lamb and Julio Jones. I just I

889
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: get that the Falcons wanted quarterback cornerbacks? Were they that

890
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: strapped that they had to have a cornerback in this draft? Like,

891
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I just I didn't understand that at all. I mean,

892
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: they had the opportunity for something really really special there,

893
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: and I just I didn't get that. I thought that

894
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: was drafting for need way over drafting for best player

895
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, alright, which quarterback place first? Jordan's Loved,

896
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts or Jake from Gribbs will start with you.

897
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. They're gonna find a way to get him

898
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: on the field right away. He's gonna he'll play this

899
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: year in some type of Taysom Hill less role. But yeah,

900
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: the other guys, and then if the other one, Jordan

901
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: Love is gonna be the first one to become a

902
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: full time starter in the NFL, barring injury, barring injury.

903
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: So a year from now, is he the starting quarterback

904
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: in Green Bay? Yeah, because if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm done.

905
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for nothing. You had an opportunity when multiple Super bowls,

906
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: You did nothing to help me in free agency for

907
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: a decade, and now you do this. I'm out. I'm

908
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: going to Denver with John Elway and I'm gonna be

909
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: throwing the ball around the yard to Jerry Judy and

910
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: kJ Hamler and Courtland seton next year when Lock flops,

911
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: or I'm going to New England with Belichick and I'm

912
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: winning super Bowls. That's the deal. I'm out. Deuces, relax,

913
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: no lunacy and arrogance. That pick I I just couldn't.

914
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around like you have a

915
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: once in a generation quarterback last year grips and by

916
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: the way, he's probably got three four years at the

917
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: top level. Why would you not do everything you can?

918
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: Forget they never have. The last time they drafted a

919
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: skill position player in the first round, and we'll count

920
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Love was Rodgers in two thousand five. But that's

921
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: crazy to me. You know what, they could have gotten

922
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: him probably with their second pick. That's amazingly. I'm not

923
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going on a limb by saying that I

924
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: think they could have maybe gotten him in the second round. Yes,

925
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean from drops all the way to the fifth.

926
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know what the Bills were doing

927
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: because you've got Alan who was one type of quarterback

928
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: and from is the exact opposite. Really, so I don't

929
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: know what they're doing there. The Jets taking Florida International's

930
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: James Morgan, by the way, their tenth quarterback in the

931
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: past fifteen years that they've drafted, the most by any team.

932
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: Don't believe he was at the combine either. Yeah, by

933
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: the way, player interesting note, as I was doing my

934
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: homework for today, f i U had two players drafted

935
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: Florida State one wow, talking about a team falling out

936
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: some hard times. That a record thirteen wide receivers going

937
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: rounds one and two thirties six overall, four team players

938
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: from l s U UH three combined from L s

939
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: U in Alabama, Ohio State in Michigan, each with ten guys.

940
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: Question for you both, would you rather be Mr Irrelevant

941
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: or be the top undrafted free agent? Gribble? Oh, it's

942
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: an easy decision. Now it's the top undrafted free agent.

943
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've seen some some information out

944
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: there that Mr Relevant lost money by getting drafted. Concurring, Yeah,

945
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: and then and you get to pick where you're going,

946
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a recruitment process and you're gonna

947
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: get paid. And yes, absolutely, top undrafted free agent, Gibbs.

948
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: Here's one more staff for you, Larry Jogan Jovis Charlotte Forts.

949
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: He was the first pitch draft pick ever from there.

950
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: They had more picks in this year's draft than NC

951
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: State or Duke and just as many as UNC, Wake

952
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: Forest and APP State. Wow for you, Larry, Good for

953
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: that program that programs on the up and coming as

954
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: they say, uh, miscellaneous stuff. As we close out today's

955
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: best podcast available, presented by our good friends at Arby's,

956
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: I do have to get a word from each of you.

957
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is a New Orleans Saint. Gribbs. Uh, it's

958
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: a good day because he's not a Pittsburgh Steeler, but

959
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: Jamis with a big one year signing right after the

960
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: draft ended. Mind you, I mean I was told he

961
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: was I mean the best one of the better quarterbacks

962
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean I guess that maybe I

963
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: was told on this podcast, and I just that's right.

964
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: It's just it's the fantasy footballization of NFL coverage on

965
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: how Jamis Winston was covered last year. Let me tell

966
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: you something, Gribbs. I'm gonna save this clip because what

967
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: he did. But this is, in a word, this is

968
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: brilliant by both Jamis Winston, who is not now, and

969
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: it's brilliant by the Saints because if Jamis Winston, there

970
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: are no physical issues right now with Jamis last year,

971
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: obviously there may have been some decision making issues, and

972
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: so he's gonna go for a year and spend time

973
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: with arguably one of the greatest decision makers ever as

974
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback and learn everything about Drew Brees, about his process.

975
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Is he does that make him Drew Brees? No, But

976
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater said the year that he spent there are

977
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: the two years he spent there were invaluable to him

978
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: in his development as a quarterback. And so you take

979
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: that twenty six year old who's got all the tools,

980
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: got thrown for five thousand yards in the NFL over

981
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns, yes, thirty interceptions, well aware, but you give

982
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: that guy a year to just say, look, you're taking

983
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: a step back and we're gonna teach you about how

984
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback, how to think like a quarterback

985
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: at a level that he clearly has not gotten before

986
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: or hasn't resonated. And if it does resonate, they're gonna

987
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: go from Drew Brees to Jamis Winston, a former number

988
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: one overall pick for a decade in a dome where

989
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: he can sling it around with offensive geniuses. And I

990
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: think it's a win win for him, and it's a

991
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: big it's a big statement by him. He turned down

992
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: more money elsewhere, including the Steelers, to say I want

993
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: to go here and I need to become a better quarterback,

994
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: and this is my best path for doing it. And

995
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: by the way, could lead to him being in that

996
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: division beating the Bucks for a decade. And I think

997
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: that had a little bit of appeal to it as well.

998
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: I just it's so interesting that that two thousand and

999
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: fifteen draft class, it's like the one in two quarterbacks

1000
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: obviously have not panned out, but they haven't flamed out

1001
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: just yet. They're just like kind of like withering away,

1002
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: like they're now both backups, which you don't usually you

1003
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: see them just completely bust out of the NFL. I mean,

1004
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: it's it goes one of way there. Now they're just

1005
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: kind of like covering around and it'll be interesting to

1006
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: see who who redeems their career first. I mean, I

1007
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: think Marioda has got a better shot of starting games

1008
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, but healthy obviously. Yeah, I will concede

1009
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm buying stock in one of them

1010
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: long term, I'm buying and Jami's just because the traits

1011
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: are there. I just think interceptions matter. Like it's just

1012
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions that clearly he no team wanted

1013
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: him to be their starter this year. Let me tell

1014
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: you this, and I'll come back here and say it

1015
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: next year on the b p A. If they don't

1016
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: sign him to a long term deal after this year,

1017
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: then I think he's toasted. But if they like him,

1018
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna know it. And I do think this is

1019
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Breeze is probably last rodeo, and there'll be no better way.

1020
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: If he knows that Jamis is good to leave them

1021
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: in those hands and they'll know, like they'll know for

1022
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: being around him in the building and how he improves

1023
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: and what he shows, they'll know. They'll know his like

1024
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: biggest skill set though his leadership. And I wonder what

1025
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen to him personality wise as

1026
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: a backup Corn Bay that that's gonna be a big

1027
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: adjustment for him, Like he is the ultimate Alpha, And

1028
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I think he's been humbled, right, don't you think? I

1029
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: mean you you would hope, right? If that's what you're

1030
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: you're banking on to take this deal. He had a

1031
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: better chance of coming in and being better than Roethlisberger

1032
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: coming back off of that surgery than he does of

1033
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: going in there and being better than Drew Brees in

1034
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: that offense, in that system. I think I think he's

1035
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: humbled himself. We'll see. I think here the following quarterbacks

1036
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: end up. This is real quick because we've had a

1037
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: monsterly long podcast. Uh where are the following king? Stuff?

1038
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Like an Arby's rose Peef Sandwich come on? And Cam Newton?

1039
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: Where's he playing in? Anybody? Anybody have a pick? I guess?

1040
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean it should be New England? And what are

1041
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: they doing up there? Are they really are? They were

1042
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: both the answer for him and Andy Dalton should both

1043
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: be New England. But I don't know if either it's

1044
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen. The Jags aren't interested and the Chargers got Herbert,

1045
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: So where else is there? What about the Seattle Seahawks

1046
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: as a backup the russ Yeah, I don't know that

1047
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: Cam is ready to be a backup. I think he

1048
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: might not play. I think not ready for a role.

1049
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: I think he would not play. I would still not

1050
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: rule out the Chargers, all right, I think, And I

1051
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: agree with Nathan. I think Andy Dalton is Patriots have

1052
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: got him again him. I just I don't. I don't

1053
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: understand what they're what they're doing, the fact that the

1054
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: Bears gave up assets and money, a ton of money

1055
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: to Nick Foles when they could have just signed Cam

1056
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: Newton will boggle my mind till the end of time

1057
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: because that seemed like a fit that was made a

1058
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: matchmate in heaven. Yeah, all right, John, it's been a pleasure,

1059
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: a girl. Thank you for your time this week. You're

1060
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 1: back next week. Compensate me with some Arby's. Oh don't

1061
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: you hurry. I'm gonna go part take here as soon

1062
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: as we wrap up on the podcast. Yeah, would you

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Speaker 1: expect anything less coming up? Real quick? Nathan more winds

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Speaker 1: next year Andy Dalton as Patriots QB or Tom Brady, Oh,

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Speaker 1: top Brady. I feel like we're hate for the bucks

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Speaker 1: taco bell for a palace a fortune. Yeah, indeed, all right,

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Speaker 1: hold on, if Dalton goes there is that another? Is

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Speaker 1: that another? A second? Is this a second? Official wager?

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Speaker 1: If Dalton goes to the Patriots, Patriots versus straight up

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Speaker 1: totally wins health matters you're saying? Or okay, alright, fine,

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Speaker 1: all right, John, it's a girl. I appreciate your I'm

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Speaker 1: coming up on Thursday's best podcast Available. Nick Harris slated

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