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Speaker 2: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
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Speaker 1: It's been a long time. A lot has happened.
Speaker 3: This is my favorite guest we've ever had. To be honest,
Speaker 3: this is like my favorite favorite guest. I'm very very excited.
Speaker 1: Well, do you want to do the intro?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, You're good at it. We have international New
Speaker 1: York Times bestselling author just Overall Bad Bitch, Elizabeth Ovison
Speaker 1: aka pen name Corinne Stephens Woody. Welcome.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to be back. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 4: Of course, it's been three years. What did I miss?
Speaker 1: Well, she's engaged to that man. We're in a new studio.
Speaker 1: Love it, BEAUTIFU. We have our Girl Cave activated.
Speaker 4: I love it and it's close to me, which I love.
Speaker 4: Took me ten minutes to get here.
Speaker 1: We love that. We love Valley Girl connections. What else
Speaker 1: we have? We've been doing a lot of stuff, girl,
Speaker 1: a lot. I know. I've been watching from Afar.
Speaker 3: We've done like sixteen retreats. We've done two tours since then.
Speaker 3: We you know, raising kids and you know all the things,
Speaker 3: all the good things.
Speaker 1: Proud of you, Thank you, thank you have done really
Speaker 1: well for yourself. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Trying to grow up trying to bet big girls.
Speaker 1: And congratulations to you on just everything that you have
Speaker 1: going on the twenty year anniversary of your epic, iconic book.
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm just so excited to dive into
Speaker 1: but that is what that what that feels like now
Speaker 1: twenty years later. God, yeah, and just everything that's going
Speaker 1: on in your life. All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. We are live. So I know,
Speaker 1: we had some people that had some questions that they've
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Speaker 1: and ask Karen questions because sometimes we don't know what
Speaker 1: to ask. I mean, I have a lot of questions
Speaker 1: for you. I do, but I thought I'd give it
Speaker 1: to the tribe to start the conversation. So one of
Speaker 1: the questions that we have is, I guess we're just
Speaker 1: gonna drive dive right in. Yes, let's do it. How
Speaker 1: have you stayed well over the last few months the
Speaker 1: Diddy trial, general state of the world. What are some
Speaker 1: of your well being practices?
Speaker 5: I really like this question A les questions.
Speaker 1: So some of your well being practices.
Speaker 4: Okay, so anyone who knows me knows that I live
Speaker 4: in a bubble. I've created a I call it my
Speaker 4: self care bubble. I created this bubble for myself many
Speaker 4: years ago. I've stayed in it. I don't see everything
Speaker 4: that's going on in the world. I don't look at
Speaker 4: the news too much. I'll top line things just for knowledge.
Speaker 4: But I don't dwell, I don't go in. I don't
Speaker 4: listen to anything like I'm a Frank Sinatra like you
Speaker 4: love Frank, I love Franks, And I'm just in a
Speaker 4: jazzy zone, like incense, burning a little Frank, a little
Speaker 4: Nina Simon, a little like dou Wop Duop, like I'm
Speaker 4: I'm I live in a world that's not of this world.
Speaker 1: I don't have a large circle.
Speaker 4: I have every small circle of friends and a family
Speaker 4: who I trust in love, and I only talk to
Speaker 4: them honestly. And I'm not on I haven't been on
Speaker 4: social really for a while. I took down my social
Speaker 4: almost a year ago.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just realized that. Yeah yeah, because you
Speaker 1: were doing your I was watching you decorate your studio
Speaker 1: and I was like, every day, look at Matha Steward.
Speaker 1: What is the chateau. It's happening in the chateau today.
Speaker 4: Wallpaper and paint I'm actually like deconstructing everything now because
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 5: With that place, so tearing work and I'm tearing it up.
Speaker 4: But the wallpaper, ring and the painting, and like that's
Speaker 4: I'm a diy girl.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: I have to copy in some of your diys looking
Speaker 3: at links your mirror framing and stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, mirror Mat. Shout out to mirror Mat, one of my.
Speaker 4: Sponsors, So shout out to them because yeah, they like
Speaker 4: framing my mirrors in the bathroom. And like yeah, because
Speaker 4: some mirrors come, you know, they have construction grade mirrors
Speaker 4: and they come without frames, which is so ugly, so
Speaker 4: you're able to just stick a frame on there.
Speaker 5: So anyway, it was great, but now I have.
Speaker 1: To take it off.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, how do I I'll take that frame.
Speaker 5: It might be ruined by the time I get it off,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But I'll put you in touch with the girlies at
Speaker 4: Mirror Made because they're so good. But like, literally I'm
Speaker 4: demolishing that whole place now, tearing off the wallpaper. But
Speaker 4: decorating gardening. I love my plants so much. I think
Speaker 4: I'm a plant mom too, are you. I I'm such
Speaker 4: a plant mommy.
Speaker 1: My plant died when I was out of town and
Speaker 1: I left it in someone else's care and when I
Speaker 1: got back, I mean, I've revived it, thank God. But
Speaker 1: I was pissed. Yeah, I was like, you had one
Speaker 1: fucking job, that was it. Yeah. I understand.
Speaker 4: So many plants that are going to my friends. Some
Speaker 4: headed back East and I won't be back for a while.
Speaker 4: So I need babysitters for my plants.
Speaker 3: If you need additional babysitters, I volunteers tribute.
Speaker 4: Okay, great, because I have so many plants, and I
Speaker 4: have my favorite plant, Bertha.
Speaker 1: She's been with me for over ten years and now.
Speaker 4: She has babies. Yeah, because I propagate Bertha. So there's
Speaker 4: all these little polthos babies all around. So Bertha and
Speaker 4: her babies are going to my bestie because I know
Speaker 4: she'll care for.
Speaker 5: Them the way that I would.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's what I've been doing during the
Speaker 4: chaos of the world. Live in a bubble, and it's
Speaker 4: easy for me to live in a bubble. I'm in
Speaker 4: the gym I'm in the gym. It started five days
Speaker 4: a week for about six months and now I'm down
Speaker 4: to three days a week with my trainer. So that's
Speaker 4: been a huge part of my wellness journey in the
Speaker 4: past year, losing weight first of all, because I was
Speaker 4: up to like one hundred and sixty three pounds at
Speaker 4: one point.
Speaker 1: Now mind you, I'm.
Speaker 4: Shaped like a coke bottle, so that it was one
Speaker 4: sixty three coke bottle as Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was like I was still fine as fast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't like I didn't like.
Speaker 4: Look like, it wasn't like polar bear body. It was
Speaker 4: one sixty three coke bottle body. So it was like
Speaker 4: tiny ways, big butt, big boobs like whatever. But it
Speaker 4: became painful for me, like like physically painful, like the
Speaker 4: thigh rubbing and the.
Speaker 5: Like my ass hurt all the time. It was so heavy,
Speaker 5: like it.
Speaker 1: Was I was so heavy all to carry around the battle.
Speaker 1: But it was just so such a disruption to my life.
Speaker 4: It was so much ass, like I could it even
Speaker 4: like it was just too much ass for me. So
Speaker 4: shout out to the girls that can carry that much ass.
Speaker 4: But I'm a I have little bones, like I can't
Speaker 4: carry around.
Speaker 1: That much ass.
Speaker 4: So I got in the gym and with my trainer,
Speaker 4: and we have worked so hard. So I'm down from
Speaker 4: one sixty three to one forty five and I've gained
Speaker 4: so much muscle, and I've got abs now and i
Speaker 4: got some guns now.
Speaker 5: So now I'm like, I'm so.
Speaker 4: Into fitness that I'm actually getting my certified personal training
Speaker 4: Like I'm literally like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm literally you just want to do they want
Speaker 1: something you want Listen.
Speaker 5: I don't want to even train anybody. I'm just getting
Speaker 5: it for myself and.
Speaker 1: Then my job it in your shirts. Like yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, but you know, I coach.
Speaker 4: Women too, so like and I've always coached them into
Speaker 4: health and wellness. I've done this for so many years,
Speaker 4: and so I'm just adding it to my coaching repertoire.
Speaker 4: So I'm into, Like I'm getting my nutrition coaching, my
Speaker 4: sports nutrition coaching, like I'm doing the whole It's crazy.
Speaker 5: I'm obsessed.
Speaker 4: What I never thought I'd be a gym rat, bitch,
Speaker 4: I'm a gym rat.
Speaker 5: Like I cannot live.
Speaker 4: My gym wardrobe is now bigger than my like my
Speaker 4: regular wardrobe is it all black?
Speaker 5: No, whoa, I was about to lie. Hold on, it's black,
Speaker 5: it's gray. I have one like navy blue situation, and
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 1: I have some white tops.
Speaker 4: I do, I do, and I did throw in like
Speaker 4: a beige cream joint, but I don't like to wear it.
Speaker 4: It's just there just to say I have to have it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because if you know me, you know I we're
Speaker 5: black all the time.
Speaker 3: I know, even when you got more than another color.
Speaker 3: Ain't no red in there.
Speaker 5: There's no pink, there's no red, there's no like. No,
Speaker 5: I don't do any of that.
Speaker 1: Has the breaking out help.
Speaker 3: It's like your mental health, I think as you get older,
Speaker 3: like it's kind of like it's necessary.
Speaker 5: Well listen, I started too because I have pain.
Speaker 4: So from sitting down as a writer for twenty years
Speaker 4: and having a mostly sedentary lifestyle. My hips are rotated
Speaker 4: and my spine is tilted, so I would have starting
Speaker 4: in the pandemic, I realized I would have excruciating pain
Speaker 4: throughout my hips, back, legs, everything, and so I couldn't.
Speaker 4: It got to the point where I couldn't walk where
Speaker 4: my neighbor would have to pick me up, put me
Speaker 4: in his car and take me places.
Speaker 1: And it was that bad.
Speaker 4: The bed hurt, the floor hurt, standing hurt, sitting hurt,
Speaker 4: everything hurt.
Speaker 1: And so my.
Speaker 4: Chiropractor, my trainers like go to a chiropractor and to chiropractor,
Speaker 4: and the chiropractor was like, don't work out, and I
Speaker 4: was like that doesn't sound right. And then so things
Speaker 4: to TikTok. Honestly on the internet, I just did it.
Speaker 4: Start doing research from like other people, like real life
Speaker 4: research from real people who had the same issues, and
Speaker 4: found out that it was working out. That's going to
Speaker 4: fix all the things. And number one was just strengthening
Speaker 4: my core. And then once the core strengthens, it helps
Speaker 4: to pull these things back into their baseline. But that's
Speaker 4: going to take some time. So that's where we started.
Speaker 4: And now it's all about I mean, the weight gain.
Speaker 4: I mean the weight loss is part of that. The
Speaker 4: muscle gain is part of that. My mental health is
Speaker 4: fucking stellar. Like holy shit, I was leg pressing two
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty five pounds the other day, Like I will,
Speaker 4: I will kill a motherfucker with these legs, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like I feel so strong. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 5: I have a neighbor she's a fire chief, and.
Speaker 4: She and I were hanging out during the fires because
Speaker 4: she's a fire chief up north. So during the fires
Speaker 4: here in La she was on a break from up
Speaker 4: north and northern California, and so we went to San
Speaker 4: Diego and with the kids, and then she taught me
Speaker 4: something and she was like, yeah, you know, in my
Speaker 4: fire station, we have a sign that tells us like
Speaker 4: we have to be able to self rescue, and as
Speaker 4: a firefighter, as fire personnel, you have to be able
Speaker 4: to self rescue because maybe your fellow fire personnel won't
Speaker 4: be able to get to you, and so you have
Speaker 4: to know how to pull yourself out of things and
Speaker 4: push things off of you and get out of bad
Speaker 4: situations on your own, just in case we can't get
Speaker 4: to you in time. And more than self care, which
Speaker 4: we always talk about, we don't talk about self rescue
Speaker 4: and being able to rescue ourselves from situations where we
Speaker 4: are in danger and we have to physically rescue ourselves
Speaker 4: where there's running away from bad people, whether it's punching
Speaker 4: the motherfucker in the face, whether it's kicking somebody in
Speaker 4: their throat, Like you have to be able to self
Speaker 4: rescue and That's been my mantra since I started, Like
Speaker 4: I got to be able to self rescue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's deep.
Speaker 3: I feel like I think sometimes we think like mentally
Speaker 3: about self rescue, like getting yourself out of a situation.
Speaker 1: You know, especially for women.
Speaker 3: It feels like triggering a little bit when you said that, like,
Speaker 3: because I think some often we're in situations like well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a bad bitch, I'm a strong woman, and then
Speaker 3: suddenly we put in situations and then you'll go into
Speaker 3: that fight or fight, fight or fight, and then you're
Speaker 3: like after the situation, like, fuck, I didn't rescue myself
Speaker 3: because you're like stuck. But like I think that maybe
Speaker 3: if you're doing that physically and you have that in mind,
Speaker 3: oh they're totally I feel like that emotionally and verbally,
Speaker 3: you'll be like i'll kick you now, well i'll kick you, bitch,
Speaker 3: get the fuck up out of my face. And that
Speaker 3: makes it kind of correlates like if you feel strong physically,
Speaker 3: you'll probably feel strong emotionally and like vocally to stand
Speaker 3: ground and like rescue yourself because a lot of times
Speaker 3: no one's coming to save you.
Speaker 4: So I like, I like nobody's coming to save you,
Speaker 4: and our apex predator is meant and so we have
Speaker 4: to know how to protect ourselves against them first and foremost.
Speaker 4: And that's just a sweeping generalization, but it is the generalization.
Speaker 1: It is, it is the truth.
Speaker 4: And so being able to rescue myself and then even
Speaker 4: with the fires, we had the fires here, we have
Speaker 4: earthquakes here, We have so many natural disasters here, Like,
Speaker 4: can I grab the people who are important to me?
Speaker 4: Can I pull myself out of you know, rubble? Can
Speaker 4: I pull you like or a car?
Speaker 1: Act?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Can I actually save myself?
Speaker 4: And so the self care have got down, the massages
Speaker 4: I have down, the nails I have down, the hair
Speaker 4: I have down, the skincare, I've got that down. But
Speaker 4: can I save myself? And that's important to me now
Speaker 4: and it wasn't before. So like yesterday I was doing
Speaker 4: pull ups and being able to pull up my body
Speaker 4: weight and I said to train, like, let's let's do
Speaker 4: pull ups, yeah, because I want to see I'm still
Speaker 4: learning how to be really good at those. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I want to see if I can pull myself up
Speaker 4: from basel like from a depth. If I was in
Speaker 4: a hole somewhere and you think it's not gonna happen
Speaker 4: to you. But the girlies who get trapped in basements,
Speaker 4: the girlies who get kidnapped and end up in holes
Speaker 4: in the ground, Like.
Speaker 5: It's not like it's people always like, what are you
Speaker 5: training for?
Speaker 4: Like, I'm training for the fact that men are grabbing
Speaker 4: bitches all the time.
Speaker 5: They're kidnapping US.
Speaker 3: Contex trafficking is at an all time high all time.
Speaker 3: You hear announcements in the airport, I've never heard that before.
Speaker 3: I was in like Atlanta airport and they're like, if
Speaker 3: you see someone who looks like they're being sex trafficked, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, am I shrip it? No, you're not a big deal.
Speaker 5: It's a big exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'd rather be prepared than not prepared.
Speaker 4: So training for me, it's mental, it's physical, it's emotional also,
Speaker 4: like I'll.
Speaker 1: Go in there.
Speaker 4: Yesterday I was in there. I had a horrible morning.
Speaker 4: Because not a horrible morning. I'm not gonna give him
Speaker 4: that much power, but some man, some somebody's dusty son like,
Speaker 4: ruined my morning super early because that's just what they
Speaker 4: like to do.
Speaker 5: And so when I went to the when I went
Speaker 5: to the gym.
Speaker 1: In the morning, specifically eight am.
Speaker 5: It's the It's my first thing in the morning.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I just opened my motherfucking eyes. You know,
Speaker 1: I got age. They do. They're like, actually, you know
Speaker 1: what do you don't think about me all day day?
Speaker 4: They're like, you don't gonna do I'm gonna ruin her
Speaker 4: ship nice and early, mad as hell, right, And he did.
Speaker 5: Until I got to the gym.
Speaker 4: And I got to the gym, I lifted some weights,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't even know who cares.
Speaker 1: Like who gives a ship.
Speaker 3: It's almost like punching a punching bag, like getting the
Speaker 3: energy out, because sometimes if you're holding it your piss,
Speaker 3: you're having thoughts, you're having thoughts in your heart, and
Speaker 3: then you're like, where am I gonna put this fucking energy?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I put it in my weights, And then after I
Speaker 4: got super strong, then I'm gonna go into boxing.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with boxing.
Speaker 3: So you wanna beat some ass basically, just in case
Speaker 3: you get it, I just want to be like, listen,
Speaker 3: we're gonna like we were going. Elizabeth Olvison on the news,
Speaker 3: someone attacked her and she killed a man with her
Speaker 3: bare hands.
Speaker 4: Crazy Is that And here's the other thing too, about
Speaker 4: physical fitness.
Speaker 5: And I know we're gonna get off this in a second,
Speaker 5: but I do want to say this.
Speaker 4: The amount of men who have told me not to
Speaker 4: gain too much muscle, not to get too strong, has
Speaker 4: been eye opening to me on how men, especially out
Speaker 4: of shape men, And I see, like it's always like
Speaker 4: a man told me last week and he shaped like
Speaker 4: a polar base and he was like.
Speaker 5: Whatever you do, don't gain.
Speaker 4: Too much muscle. And so I said, I'll make a
Speaker 4: deal with you. I'll stop gaining muscle when you start
Speaker 4: at because like, but what I've realized is that it's
Speaker 4: not the muscle the men are afraid of.
Speaker 1: It's the discipline that it takes. It's the mental rightness
Speaker 1: that happens.
Speaker 4: It's the self rescue, it's the self care, it's the self,
Speaker 4: it's the the the epitome of of I am first.
Speaker 4: I matter more than anything. That discipline I have realized
Speaker 4: now that I have it is scarier to men than
Speaker 4: anything else I've ever done in my life, because they
Speaker 4: can't fuck around because I will go to the gym,
Speaker 4: I will push two twenty five on these fucking legs
Speaker 4: and I'll forget all about you.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna argue with you. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: the gym and.
Speaker 5: Argue with the weights. That's what I'm about to do.
Speaker 1: If I need to, I'll kick you.
Speaker 5: You'll never get this energy from me.
Speaker 1: You'll never get the energy from you again, you know.
Speaker 4: And I think that's really scary to some men I've
Speaker 4: noticed recently.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that has that specifically has shifted
Speaker 1: with your journey into fitness, Like whereas before maybe you
Speaker 1: were giving men more energy, more of that energy, and
Speaker 1: now you're giving less because you have this different outlet
Speaker 1: and you're in self rescue mode.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that my energy. I've always been one that, like.
Speaker 4: I I'm not gonna say I'm not still a bit
Speaker 4: because I am super bitchy, and it's always it's my bline.
Speaker 1: Like I just now, my baseline is bitchy. My baseline
Speaker 1: is bitchy. I would like to adopt that I'm too nice.
Speaker 3: I wish God if you could just let my baseline
Speaker 3: be bitchy.
Speaker 1: God, it would just save me so much time.
Speaker 4: I'm I just start, I start there and then I soften.
Speaker 4: If a man deserves my soft side, then he'll get
Speaker 4: that if he proves himself worthy of my softness, and
Speaker 4: that means that he has to be a man and
Speaker 4: not a boy. So I start off very like, prove yourself.
Speaker 4: I have no listen, I'm forty seven years old. This
Speaker 4: next month, I have no time. So I'm starting off like,
Speaker 4: what do you want? What's your name? Who's your people?
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What's your credits? Called? Give me the whole thing, Like,
Speaker 1: give me everything about yourself.
Speaker 4: I find that, with my dedication and my commitment to
Speaker 4: my physical, mental, emotional well being, that I don't have
Speaker 4: the same energy for not just men, but anyone that
Speaker 4: I did before. I also found immediately that I needed
Speaker 4: to have friends who were also on this journey, because
Speaker 4: if you're not, you don't understand.
Speaker 5: And I now I understand what I would see. I
Speaker 5: would never I didn't. You don't understand until you do it.
Speaker 4: I understand exactly what this is now, and I understand
Speaker 4: how life changing it is all the way around, and
Speaker 4: the mental fortitude it takes. It leaks into every other
Speaker 4: part of my life, into all of my relationships, and
Speaker 4: it has changed.
Speaker 1: My life for the better.
Speaker 4: And I wish and also and I want more women
Speaker 4: to know this too, especially women. When you get into
Speaker 4: this lifestyle, it changes the people around you. People who
Speaker 4: are fit and people who are structured in this way,
Speaker 4: they're fit and structured in other parts of their lives absolutely,
Speaker 4: and they are enriched because of it. And so now
Speaker 4: I can join a tennis club and feel fit enough
Speaker 4: to take the tennis lessons and do the thing. But
Speaker 4: then that puts me in the direct site line of
Speaker 4: certain people, and there I have more opportunities, and I
Speaker 4: make more money and have a at a crop of
Speaker 4: friends now all around fitness, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And so it's like, no matter what, it has improved
Speaker 4: my life one thousand percent socially, sexually, it's been amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, speak on that. Tell me I
Speaker 1: lived in weights and bench press in two twenty lit
Speaker 1: my stamina so you can ride for longer. Basically, your
Speaker 1: kids are.
Speaker 4: These legs, these knees, the way that I can maneuver,
Speaker 4: the way that I can throw a man around, which
Speaker 4: I will always throw a man around before.
Speaker 1: What do you mean throw a man around?
Speaker 3: You're like, come here, baby, put him on the bed,
Speaker 3: cock his legs back.
Speaker 4: Man handle that bitch, like I love to throw a
Speaker 4: fucking man around, and so like being able to throw
Speaker 4: him around in a way that even he thinks it's sexy, like,
Speaker 4: oh my.
Speaker 1: God, I've never been thrown around, and like.
Speaker 4: The cowgirl, the reverse cowgirl, the stamina I had, like
Speaker 4: he said recently, a month ago, month and a half ago,
Speaker 4: the man said the man, he said, I'm fatigued. I
Speaker 4: was like fatigued, and he's younger than me. I'm like,
Speaker 4: let's go to the gym.
Speaker 1: No, well no, not really, not.
Speaker 5: Enough for me.
Speaker 3: You were like, step it up, not enough to call
Speaker 3: when he said fatigued, you said, he said, fatigued.
Speaker 4: I was like, fotigued to use to use a twenty
Speaker 4: point word during.
Speaker 5: Sexual activity is crazy word.
Speaker 1: He felt that.
Speaker 4: Way, Like he didn't say tired, honey, he said fatigued.
Speaker 4: But it's because I am running circles around him and
Speaker 4: I love that for me, especially because he's so much
Speaker 4: younger than I am.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, what's the age, what's the youngest
Speaker 1: she'll go? You do you have like an age limit
Speaker 1: on how young of a manual date likes? Will you do?
Speaker 1: What is twenty one?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: Would you do twenty one. Mmmmmmm hmm. I'm not interested
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not inter No, I never thought about that,
Speaker 5: but I think at.
Speaker 4: This age, a twenty year difference is the most I
Speaker 4: can do, which is kind of what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven.
Speaker 4: I think about twenty seven almost like hitting on thirty almost. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I prefer though, I prefer thirty something. I'm enjoying thirty three,
Speaker 4: thirty four. I'm enjoying that a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I second that. You know, my man's a little
Speaker 3: bit younger than me, and you got to mold him.
Speaker 1: You got to.
Speaker 3: They're they're bushy eyed and like they're more bushy eyed
Speaker 3: and like ready and like, yeah I want to be married.
Speaker 1: Yeah I want. I said, none, You're you're the bomb.
Speaker 3: You know, like they get like a really dumb wyan
Speaker 3: or like a smart one who wants to like wants
Speaker 3: to learn from someone and like is more supportive and
Speaker 3: really ready.
Speaker 1: Like he's like.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like equivalent to like a girl who's
Speaker 3: like really want to get married and fell in love.
Speaker 3: Like there's that girl like that kind of like that naiveness.
Speaker 1: So you find a man who has that.
Speaker 3: Same like romantic dream, but he's a little young and
Speaker 3: like green, You're like, yeah, I come mere, baby, come
Speaker 3: over here, let me let me show your mama's nipple.
Speaker 1: Oh my, that's like, that's not creepy, that's at all.
Speaker 5: It's not predatory one thing right, This is so Fordian.
Speaker 1: I can't see we know you know, is kink now orlandos?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, yeah's a little baby boy. You're
Speaker 1: going to land on your little baby. Let your man
Speaker 1: like I wasn't.
Speaker 5: Long time, I wasn't mama's nipple. No, I've never done that.
Speaker 1: Now we know.
Speaker 5: Now we know what's going on at home.
Speaker 1: Grat just be lying. You could just be like nursing
Speaker 1: little bit, nursing your man. You never had dated.
Speaker 3: It's a young fine man like Elizabeth.
Speaker 5: I am not lying.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's going on. Gets me
Speaker 5: out of here.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you try to call me a predator.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like the no, no, no, okay, well well yes,
Speaker 1: light the blund and before we go on and ask
Speaker 1: you more questions from our tribe on Patreon, I wanted
Speaker 1: to play a little game with you. Of course you do.
Speaker 1: I want to play a game of trigger trigger time
Speaker 1: bitch is Trigger is a game where I say a
Speaker 1: word and you say the first thing that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you don't light the blood on that one.
Speaker 1: I like the backwood.
Speaker 3: I did the yellow banana foster because it matched my
Speaker 3: outfit so perfect.
Speaker 1: From New Orleans.
Speaker 3: And before we start that game, in case it gets
Speaker 3: a little spidery in here, the blunt tried to blast me.
Speaker 1: You blasted yourself. No one told you to share that information. Lord,
Speaker 1: I thought you guys like, yeah, yeah, mom's nippy, give
Speaker 1: me a baby, baby, let me change that diaper. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you don't remember you guys. Remember back in
Speaker 1: the day used to be a show.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There used to be a.
Speaker 3: Really good show on Showtime called like Call Girl Diaries
Speaker 3: of a Call Girls Girl. Yeah, and she's English. I
Speaker 3: fucking loved it. But she did all these weird like
Speaker 3: scenes with men, like sexually. But there were kinks, and
Speaker 3: one of them like this grown man not saying that.
Speaker 1: This is what I do at home. That he was
Speaker 1: She was like changing his diaper and he's like mama,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I just remember, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: whole Remember there was a dipe, there's diaper man or
Speaker 1: diaper boy, diper boy or diaper boy. Yeah, he was on,
Speaker 1: he was on horrible decisions. Yeah, it's a whole demographic
Speaker 1: of men that want to be treated literally like babies
Speaker 1: and are putting diapers on and have pacifiers in their
Speaker 1: mouth and all types of rattles in their hands. If
Speaker 1: you're in Los.
Speaker 3: Angeles area and you're a diaper boy and you want
Speaker 3: to hitching me love.
Speaker 1: Directly, do not hit up good mom's bad choices. Directly,
Speaker 1: E solicit me and my nipples. You know, I breastfed
Speaker 1: for a long time. I was ready to feed you
Speaker 1: her nipples. Stiper boy and any other little baby boys
Speaker 1: out there that are men.
Speaker 3: Orlando squeeze my nipples the other day and like colostrum
Speaker 3: came out, and I was very concerned. I'm not pregnant
Speaker 3: or anything. I was just sharing anyway, Just go ahead
Speaker 3: with the game. I'm lighting the backward. Nobody judged me.
Speaker 1: Okay, what was that? We have one last thing to share?
Speaker 5: No, I don't know why. I'm so.
Speaker 4: You would have thought I hadn't seen as many dicks
Speaker 4: and stuff as I have.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm maybe it's my age. I'm so, are you
Speaker 5: clutching your girl, I'm clutching.
Speaker 1: I'm a girl. I read your books. You better get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here, Hony. Those are twenty something
Speaker 1: year old experiences. Well, why I ever die? The memories
Speaker 1: of fresh.
Speaker 5: A reformed.
Speaker 1: Okay, propagating and her goden a middle age Caucasian mom
Speaker 1: with the white wine. Like I listened to Frank Sinatra,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: I do like I'm in the catskills listening to Sinacha.
Speaker 5: I have no idea what's happening right now?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, it's gross, bitch. Amen, you were
Speaker 1: allowed to grow. Accept your growth. I'm just kidding. Thank you, honey.
Speaker 1: She either wants to take you down to the depths
Speaker 1: of baby boy hell or heaven. It just depends in
Speaker 1: mid heaven. I don't know. Okay, let's begin, so don't
Speaker 1: overthink it.
Speaker 5: I want to be so high.
Speaker 4: You want to hot boxes ship out of me in
Speaker 4: this fucking little ass room.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's time you need to loosen up.
Speaker 5: If I take my titties out, you have to like
Speaker 5: loosen up tits.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're already censored out, so okay, good.
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 1: All right, bad habits.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm starting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oka, I'm sorry, you're not even smoking. I'm not
Speaker 1: even here. Everything that comes to mind, bad habits, food, astrology,
Speaker 1: sign marriage, yuck, religion, yuck, Little Wayne, Oh, breastfeeding melaa.
Speaker 1: This might be my new lane.
Speaker 3: And when I get an only fans breastfeeding, no one
Speaker 3: says ship.
Speaker 5: I just want you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would pay for that concept. I want to
Speaker 4: see I want to see Orlando. I want to see that.
Speaker 3: If you guys want to see orlanda breastfeed, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: start the only fans to this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Okay, last time you had sex not the face.
Speaker 5: Wait, I cannot and you just told me the sex weight. No,
Speaker 5: I can't. I can't tell.
Speaker 1: You're fatiguing niggas, y'all.
Speaker 5: Stop you're about to get me caught up. Stop it right?
Speaker 1: Has a real player that on camera? Yeah? Like you?
Speaker 5: Hold on, I guys gotta be like what you mean?
Speaker 1: I got recorded. I can tell to you when you
Speaker 1: got that good hand exactly.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not answering, not the fifth on that. You're
Speaker 5: not about to get me caught up.
Speaker 1: Favorite favorite porn category.
Speaker 4: Oh m oh, no, I have one, it's so good
Speaker 4: to tell me, put me on.
Speaker 5: It's fucking oh couckold. It's a watching love and marriage
Speaker 5: a couple of them.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. What they watch.
Speaker 5: They just allowed and.
Speaker 1: Then they want to hear about it afterwards, so there's
Speaker 1: not actually watching them.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, because the other part. I think the other
Speaker 4: party would let them be in the room. But I
Speaker 4: loved at the time. I don't always rachel or is
Speaker 4: that just what I say?
Speaker 1: I know, it's just like.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 1: But if you go on Ebony Galore on what why
Speaker 1: have you been withholding this? You know that I've been
Speaker 1: on fucking whatever was Tasty Blacks. Now this one's more
Speaker 1: more like more modern.
Speaker 5: That's going on here.
Speaker 1: Tasty Blacks is like ancient.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I so disturbed, I might just out the game,
Speaker 4: put me back.
Speaker 5: And putting you on. Put me back.
Speaker 1: Come in.
Speaker 4: I'm upset by how upset I'm getting.
Speaker 1: Bitch in the garden.
Speaker 5: Come back, yes, bring me back.
Speaker 3: Ebord dot com so ebneglord dot com is the black
Speaker 3: porn site. So if you put in I mean they
Speaker 3: have some white pitches over there too, But if you
Speaker 3: put in any category, any of your categories they come
Speaker 3: up black, So cuckhold is actually there's all black cutcold
Speaker 3: instead of one white husband and a white bitch and
Speaker 3: a black right.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, okay, so cut coold got it? Love language,
Speaker 1: money Diddy? Who more kids don't get I'm gonna pass
Speaker 1: on that one, okay, Brittany Runner oh man, Okay, toxic trait?
Speaker 1: Why why do I space on that? Say to me again,
Speaker 1: toxic trait? Nothing's coming to mind because you're disassociated. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do you what's happening right now? You're do you?
Speaker 1: You have no idea? Dearah me talking?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I toltally was like nothing, I'm gonna talk therapists
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna talk to my therapists.
Speaker 1: Immediately after this, oh you shop? Nothing came to mind.
Speaker 1: Favorite exposition, Oh dog doggy yeah, doggy style r kelly
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Femininity, soft feminism, soft and hard white women?
Speaker 5: Oh why did that pop into my head?
Speaker 4: No? Say it?
Speaker 1: I gotta say it. No, please say it, do it.
Speaker 1: It's trigger No.
Speaker 5: Oh it's so bad, do say it?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, Oh no, it wasn't just beyond your control.
Speaker 1: Your This is not your fault. This is this game
Speaker 1: of the subconscious It doesn't mean.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think it was the smell thing. Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 4: let me just not elaborate.
Speaker 1: Guy.
Speaker 5: Not a safe space, guys, this is not a space.
Speaker 1: Black men yum m hmm, black women. Yes, girl, Yes,
Speaker 1: masturbation Yeah, I mean I just did it this morning.
Speaker 1: So yeah, toys, hands always hands. Don't like toys.
Speaker 3: No, you're a vintage masturbator. Me to vintage, like a
Speaker 3: good old pillow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hands.
Speaker 1: Have you tried the rose?
Speaker 5: I don't like anything.
Speaker 1: No, just me, just me and my my diggits, my fulangies.
Speaker 1: Celebrity crush, I can't say, come on, you know what?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you you get the blazer on?
Speaker 5: You think I'm I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in so much trouble when I get
Speaker 1: back to New York. Why can't you have celebrity crushes?
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you them. She could land them.
Speaker 5: Can I tell you who it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: He's I think he's busy right now.
Speaker 4: But so back when he was liking all my pictures
Speaker 4: and liking like allow and following me and following, yeah,
Speaker 4: back when we were doing that.
Speaker 1: Because that's is that what they do, follow you and
Speaker 1: follow you, follow you to get your attention. But I
Speaker 1: only want to sit on his face.
Speaker 4: I don't like keep them or anything. It's just a
Speaker 4: grind my pussy on your face kind of vibe. And
Speaker 4: then like he seems like the kind of guy that
Speaker 4: you would just do that.
Speaker 5: Just kind of want to do that.
Speaker 1: Don't take it to boat, not too much on Stefa,
Speaker 1: not got too much, hope you don't.
Speaker 4: Definitely don't wipe him up and put them on the
Speaker 4: internet in your feed. That's crazy work unless.
Speaker 3: You lets you're committed to just knowing that this is
Speaker 3: just for fun, unless it's revenge, in which case.
Speaker 1: I just want to grind my pussy in his face.
Speaker 1: That's all I want to do.
Speaker 5: I don't need him for anything else.
Speaker 1: Amen, therapy, Yes, milp me, that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Oh wait? Did I just wait? Where
Speaker 1: did the rest of them go? Hold on, I'm not done.
Speaker 1: I'm not done. Oh yeah, there's more. Don't no, don't
Speaker 1: you worry? Favorite trade about yourself?
Speaker 6: Oh my intellectualism, m hm, passion, purpose, pet peeve, dirt
Speaker 6: biggest regret every husband I've ever had?
Speaker 1: Who biggest regret?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: What did you say? Did you wait? Why? Did just
Speaker 1: have it?
Speaker 5: Said?
Speaker 1: Kwame?
Speaker 5: Watch? Okay, what about it?
Speaker 1: First thing that comes to mind? That was the Christianity.
Speaker 1: Stupid sex while kids are at home? Ha, done it?
Speaker 1: They meant co parenting hard. Best advice you ever got.
Speaker 5: Don't do it?
Speaker 1: And that concludes our game of trigger You survived. Oh
Speaker 1: Lord Jesus, we just had to drug you a little bit.
Speaker 5: Just give her a little Why you don't take the
Speaker 5: stickers off these glasses?
Speaker 1: You know I'm a virgo and I can't. I tried,
Speaker 1: I only did one. I only got this them in water.
Speaker 5: I want to take this.
Speaker 1: I'm too much of a virgo to let you do
Speaker 1: this to me right now, Like I can't even don't
Speaker 1: try and glasses and say we're goet own our show,
Speaker 1: But I have to remove the stickers myself. No, leave it.
Speaker 5: Every virgo understands what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. This is a very virgo. It's
Speaker 1: a super Yeah.
Speaker 5: Give thank you Jesus, Lord, thank you. Okay, what else?
Speaker 5: Well we got questions?
Speaker 1: Okay, I love you guys, I love you. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you're here. You know how you know how crazy
Speaker 1: I was going the first time we came. Thank you
Speaker 1: for playing our games.
Speaker 4: Literally, we're getting high as fuck right now. But go ahead, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm fine. It's only gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Drink more wine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good, you guys.
Speaker 1: Actually, now that my water is digested, I'm gonna have one.
Speaker 1: And just so you guys know, it just got noon
Speaker 1: and we're drinking wine.
Speaker 5: Just got neon.
Speaker 1: It just it just got noon.
Speaker 3: It's eleven fifty nine at this moment, and we were
Speaker 3: pouring white wine like we are suburban white women.
Speaker 1: And guess what, I wore a kit in heel today.
Speaker 5: So we're not Wait, we're not suburban white women.
Speaker 3: We're drinking white We're drinking white wine at eleven fifty
Speaker 3: nine AM.
Speaker 1: See, I waited until twelve pm, and reasonable respect you
Speaker 1: better wait because it's still eleven. You're a respectable one.
Speaker 1: You just better wait. Cheers, Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 1: It just it just got noone. It just got noon.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So let's get back to the questions. There's
Speaker 1: one question that one of our lovely, lovely tribe members
Speaker 1: from Patreon asked, and they said, how do you feel right,
Speaker 1: how did you feel about writing the book, knowing the
Speaker 1: dangers of exposing so many people in the industry, and
Speaker 1: how do you feel now?
Speaker 5: Okay, that's a really good question.
Speaker 1: So writing Good Defessions was Thank you for tuning in
Speaker 1: and again, you can catch part two of this episode
Speaker 1: right now on Patreon. Just go to patreon dot com,
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Speaker 1: then you'll just have to wait till next week.