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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson, home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson on the Drive.

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Speaker 1: Are you listen to Steelers Nation Radio? And while sticking

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Speaker 1: with our theme today, Matt, we've looked at some different

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Speaker 1: articles on NFL dot com and given our two cents

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Speaker 1: on them for what for when it's all worth? Uh,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to look at this one written by Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: who's around the NFL editor and he's looking at what

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Speaker 1: other teams in the a f C need to do

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Speaker 1: to now catch the Bengals. Done. That sounds weird right right,

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Speaker 1: But I mean the Bengals are the defending NFC champions now,

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Speaker 1: and so you got to figure out ways to uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, catch the Bengals. Yeah, he does this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm pulling it up right now. I haven't

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Speaker 1: read it. I assume he's gonna take the tactic of

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Speaker 1: we don't need to build a Bengal beating team. It's

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Speaker 1: more like, we need to build a super Bowl caliber roster.

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Speaker 1: And how do we get into that conversation? Not you know,

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Speaker 1: like when the Chiefs were dominating the ANFC. It was like, well,

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Speaker 1: we better get defensive backs and pass rushers. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the Bengals are at that level.

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Speaker 1: Where what do we do to deal with this team? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I agree, Um, he does. He's an alphabetic order, so

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Speaker 1: we will do it the same way. Um, So the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens lead things up. The Ravens must freshen up

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Speaker 1: that defense. And I could not agree more. Um. You

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Speaker 1: know there's a reason why they parted ways with win

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Speaker 1: Martin Dale at the end of the season. Um, they

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Speaker 1: finished in defensive efficiency. Uh. The offense is the offense.

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Speaker 1: It's a Lar Jackson Jackson centric they they apparently like receivers.

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Speaker 1: They'll get j K. Dobbins back next year. I think

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Speaker 1: they also need to fix that offensive line. Um, but

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Speaker 1: the defense was just atrocious, terrible, And again you would

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Speaker 1: imagine and bad things can happen. Of course, that you

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Speaker 1: enter next year with healthy Lamar, which was a problem

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Speaker 1: this year, healthy Dobbins, Bateman in his second year, Andrews

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Speaker 1: mean I'm imagining he's back, but who knows. But there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot on defense except for the return of

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Speaker 1: Peters and Humphreys to be like, well, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: it's kind of old on that side of the ball

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. Yeah, if you if you

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Speaker 1: look at their defensive line, Clais Campbell, Brandon Williams, Perno McFee,

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Speaker 1: justin Houston are all on their thirties and headed the

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Speaker 1: free agency. Okay, yeah, I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: resign any of those guys, right, I mean, and what

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Speaker 1: are they really worth at this stage? I bet all

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Speaker 1: of them are out there in free agency for a while.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Williams is the only one I think

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Speaker 1: that it's the close to his prime. Yeah, the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills must figure out a way to bottle up playoff

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Josh Allen was tremendous in the playoffs this year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just tremendous. But you know what they need to do,

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Speaker 1: and what he's saying here is I actually when I

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Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl, I was talking to a

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Speaker 1: writer from the Buffalo News and one of the questions

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Speaker 1: he asked, he said, you were One of the things

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Speaker 1: he said to me was that one of the questions

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Speaker 1: I get asked the most. This year is how the

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Speaker 1: hell did this? Did the Steelers beat the Bills in

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Speaker 1: Week one? Yeah? I bet, yeah, I'm back, that was

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Speaker 1: unlikely at the time, let alone what we know now.

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Speaker 1: And I said, well, at that point, the Steelers defense

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Speaker 1: was still relatively healthy, you know, they Lulu hadn't gotten

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Speaker 1: hurt yet. And the Bills did exactly, you know what

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Speaker 1: what everybody else didn't do against the Steelers this year.

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Speaker 1: The Bills never ran. They didn't try to run the

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Speaker 1: football in that game. No, good point, good point, you know,

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Speaker 1: so you didn't you didn't attack the thing that the

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Speaker 1: Steelers as it's as as it turned out, weren't great

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Speaker 1: weakness yet. But they didn't test it either. Bills changed

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Speaker 1: as the season went on, The Steelers changed. The season

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Speaker 1: rather than that the house is pretty, you know. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns must find more pass catchers. They've got

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Speaker 1: other issues though, two like what is what is Baker Mayfield? Yep? Um,

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Speaker 1: you know the defense was good last year, but a

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Speaker 1: do they do they you know, make a pitch to

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Speaker 1: resign Clowney because he was okay this see you know,

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Speaker 1: as to your point of Merrill Hodges talking about him

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Speaker 1: with him from year to year. He's gonna play, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna want to he's gonna want to raise are they

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Speaker 1: gonna spend They paid ten paid him ten million dollars

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Speaker 1: last year. They gotta pay him twelve, fourteen, fifteen this

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Speaker 1: year based on what he did this past season. That's

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Speaker 1: not good business. I don't know. I mean, I'm with

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal here. My goal would be upgrade the passing game,

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Speaker 1: live with Mayfield one more year. Surround him with weapons

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Speaker 1: you have the running game, and if Baker can't take

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Speaker 1: a big step forward, then I'm going back to that

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Speaker 1: well a year from now. I mean he mentions in

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Speaker 1: this right up, could they try to trade for Russell

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield off your hands and what he's you know,

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Speaker 1: where he's at. Yeah, if you if you trade for

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of catture of money tied up

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Speaker 1: in your quarterbacks, do isn't it. I don't know that. If,

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Speaker 1: for example, if you trade for Russell Wilson, are the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks gonna take Baker Mayfield as part of the package.

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Speaker 1: I think would almost be a Goff situation where you

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Speaker 1: gotta give me more for me to take Mayfield off

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Speaker 1: And then if you're if you're Seattle, you've got to

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Right? You're take you're taking on somebody else's issue.

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Speaker 1: what if they're the team that trades for Jimmy Garoppolo?

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Speaker 1: depends when you know what do you what do you

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going there. Um, but you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: But the rookie head coaches, you know, yeah, it's add

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid. It's not you know, guys that have been

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Speaker 1: Which this is why he hasn't been traded yet. This

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Speaker 1: be a lot of teams are gonna want to touch him. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I have no comments, And it's not that I'm avoiding

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Speaker 1: and it seems like that's unlikely from what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like golf, you know where the Lions are.

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Speaker 1: He's not, you know, can't get back to playing well,

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Speaker 1: but it's starting to leave the port. Yeah, I agree. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville must find Trevor Lawrence help will no kidding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a piece of cake, ruined a stud prospect.

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Speaker 1: You should stay. Yeah. The Kansas City Chiefs must reimagine

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Speaker 1: and it's something you bring up a lot. They just

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Speaker 1: have a hundred million free agents. Yeah, I mean half

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Speaker 1: more than anyone else does. A game you gave up

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna be fine, we know that, but it's

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Speaker 1: mean mahomes salary jumps to thirty five million dollars next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Maybe we even dropped another mock draft on Friday. Matt,

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