1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is nick Shot 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a Cowboys Wednesday, as 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys back on the practice field as we speak, 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: getting set to take on the Los Angeles Chargers three 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty five, Dallas Time on Sunday. Bill Jones with Mickey 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Spagnola here inside the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: in Frisco, and Everson Walls at a remote location somewhere 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: where the sun is shining on Everson's face. Hello Everson. Hello, 12 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: all right, Mickey. It's kind of a first normal week 13 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: we've had, right it somewhat norm it was, It was 14 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: normal until Everson had to leave town. And so now 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: we're back to one third of us is at a 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: remote location, but at least we can see Everson. I 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: wasn't referring to us. I was referring to the Cowboys 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: on a regular week practice, although they had the extra 19 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: what three days after that, right, So it's just now 20 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: to a regular week starting today through Sunday, and then 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: next week it's not a regular week regular The home 22 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: opener is a Monday night game against Philadelphia, so they 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: get an extra day next week. And it is great 24 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: though to see the team out on the practice field. Yes, absolutely, 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they just finished up their practice 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: today and it was a you know, full practice. Um, 27 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, they did team drills. They had to scout 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: team going. And then we can go on with all 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: the roster. What's the word massinations nations? Nice? How about that? Huh? 30 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Vocabulary is improving an old age? We just don't know 31 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: what it means. Yeah, it's I've always been Can you 32 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: guys hear me? Yes? Okay, can you hear me? Yeah? 33 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Can you hear us? I don't think he hears us? 34 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: See yeah, everysing cannot hear us apparently, Okay, every sin 35 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: is gonna fix whatever is? Uh? I hear you, Everson, 36 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: you can't hear us? All right? So how about we 37 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on with this roster? Then? Yes, 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: let's uh take a look at it so we know 39 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: do we start it right tackle? We started right tackle? 40 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: We know. Lell Collins has been suspended five games from 41 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of digging I've done. It sounds like 42 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be five games. We talked about his agent 43 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: saying it was still in the appeal process, but it 44 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: sounds like he doesn't have much of a chance for 45 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: the appeal. And another thing that I think starting to 46 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: get cleared up if you listen to what Jerry said yesterday, 47 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't from so much miss tests as it was, 48 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: and Jerry said it sometimes it's cooperation with the process, 49 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: and so it's sounding like that might be something like that, 50 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: because not only do you have to test, but whatever 51 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: consoling you're supposed to go through, you have to show 52 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: up for those two and you get negative marks if 53 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you don't show up for those. So I don't know 54 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: if that had something to do it, but Jerry's Jerry's 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: point was there there's a consoling that takes place also, 56 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: so it's an entire process. So it looks like he 57 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: probably's gonna miss at least this game, if not five. Okay, 58 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: so we've we've sort of established that now. I chatted 59 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy on the taping of his Coaches show 60 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: last evening, and you tell me if he said anything 61 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: much different from this. At his press conference today, he 62 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: indicated that Zack Martin is staying at guard, yes, and 63 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: that it is Terrence Steele or tight Insecki who would 64 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: be starting at right tackle. And that's about what he 65 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: said in his press conference today, even though Jerry Jones 66 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: on Tuesday said when he was asked the question, it's 67 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: going to be Steel. Yeah, he didn't mince words. But 68 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure from McCarthy standpoint, he doesn't want 69 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: to give the Chargers a scouting report and people wants 70 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: to make sure they go through they got to go 71 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: through practice. But if but if it's those two guys, 72 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: to me, if you're not moving Zach out there, and 73 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: we can talk about his reasons for maybe doing that, 74 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: then I think it's Steel. I think he's more versatile, 75 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: more mobile, maybe not as strong, not as big. But 76 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: I think I pointed this out yesterday, if it is 77 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: Steel over there, then the tight end better be in 78 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: his hip pocket and saying you've got to have two 79 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: tight ends on the field all the time. But I 80 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: think you have to make an adjustment. You have to 81 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: make a concession that if Steal's out there and Joey 82 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Bosa's across from you can't let Joey Bosa ruin this 83 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: kid that came into the league as an undrafted rookie. 84 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Now he started fourteen games last year. I think he 85 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: made great strides in the off season. I pointed out 86 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: yesterday that he was one of the ten guys that 87 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: won the Workout Award in the off season. And if 88 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: you look at what happened during training camp, he was 89 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: playing both sides. He started on the right, he ended 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: up on the left as the backup. So to me, 91 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: that to me, that tells me that they had more 92 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: confidence in him than the veteran Naseecki, who you would 93 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: think would be for sure can play the right side, 94 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: but they got to let him work on the left side. Well, 95 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: they switched that up towards the end of training camp. 96 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Sou from McCarthy standpoint, he still say we're working on 97 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: the combination, but it sounds like the combination is Steal 98 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and Secky. And you know last week he was on 99 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: the injury report, by the way, for a day or so, 100 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: and he missed time in training camp. So to me, 101 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: it's probably steal and then well they'll go from there 102 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: and see what happens. So now you ask why won't 103 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: they move Zach Martin out there? Okay, I'll ask that, 104 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: why won't they move Zach Martin out there? And you 105 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: know I was a promote proponent of it too, right, 106 00:06:54,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: And McCarthy answered that question today basically saying that Zach 107 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: at guard, you know, he can give help to the 108 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: tackle and communication type stuff, and he can help the 109 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: center too, who's basically in his first full year of starting. 110 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I know he started like four or five games last 111 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: year before he got hurt. So this is his sixth 112 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: NFL start, Yes, Tyler be So now you got Zach 113 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: in the middle there, and you know he can help 114 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: out there, and I think so coming off COVID, you know, 115 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced in more than well not ten practice days, 116 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: but ten days since he was on COVID reserve. And 117 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: who knows. You may think, well, I better bring him 118 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: back and put him someplace initially where it's comfortable with 119 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: and then see if we can compensate for not having 120 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Lel Collins on the outside by using our tight ends 121 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: in the running back to help him out in pass protection. Well, 122 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at Washington last week, uh, 123 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: and they had a rookie, Sam caused me at right tackle, 124 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: and boy Bosa just flies off the screen at you. 125 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you can you can tell that he's the 126 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: guy you got to be worried about. Did they give 127 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: him help? There were times that they did not give 128 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: him help that he and uh he came. He came 129 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: pretty hard off that hitch. Yeah. So, and you know, 130 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: and they're in a three they're in a three four. 131 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: But if you go three wide receivers, you know, or 132 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: even if he's at playing linebacker in that three four, 133 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: he's still lining up the line of scrimmage and you 134 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: know he's coming right. Um, and he's a load uh so. Yeah, 135 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: And then they were in a lot of four man front. 136 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: When you're going with your three wide receiver set, he's 137 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: in a four man front. And then move him around. 138 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: But I saw him. He was seemed to be most 139 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: effective coming from a left defensive end against the rookie 140 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: right tackle from Texas. Sam caused me, so, oh, so 141 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: he's going to go up against another tackle that's not 142 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: like it's college ball in techs that's right Texas tech 143 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: yep So So anyway, um, otherwise, as far as practice goes, 144 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: so we know Randy Gregory has been placed on reserve COVID, 145 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: so he's not out there and we'll see where that happens. 146 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: But again, I can see Everson now, Yah, Everson has 147 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: reappeared on the screen. He can hear us, I can 148 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: hear you. All right, all right, all right, So what's 149 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: the what's the deal with Gregory? He has an opportunity 150 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: to play, right, Well, it's an opportunity to it maybe slim, yeah, 151 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: But so I think they have to operate now as 152 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: if you know they're not going to have him. Uh 153 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: that means you know, and McCarthy mentioned it today. More 154 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: more snaps for Dorin's armstrong. They'll need him to step up. 155 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: More STAPs from Terrell basham, we need to play then 156 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Zach Martin correct say that again he will have a 157 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: better opportunity to play and come off the list than 158 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: uh was it Zach Martin had correct? Oh you mean 159 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: off the COVID list? Yeah, last week? Uh he does. 160 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: But again, as McCarthy said today, normally when we've had 161 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: guys test positive, it's been a ten day period, not 162 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: a five day period. So I think going forward they 163 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: have to assume they're not going to have him which 164 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: means you know, you've got at least three guys. You know, 165 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned U Dorrin's Armstrong, Terrell Basham, Uh Bradley and 166 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: I can play there. I you know, Bret Urban could 167 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: probably go out there if they needed him to. Uh 168 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: and then uh boy, and you better keep DeMarcus Lawrence 169 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: on the field right because now you're starting to get 170 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: a little thin going up against the quarterback. You better 171 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: get pressure on him. You know. I think there's seems 172 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: to be like there's this sense of relief out there that, Okay, 173 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: we survived Tom Brady on no loss, but it was close. Well, 174 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: this kid is pretty darned good. You better be careful 175 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: with them. So we'll see how they feel that defensive 176 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: end spot on the on the right side. Why is 177 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: it always the right side, the right tackle, the right 178 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: defensive end. I thought d Law played extremely well in 179 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: the ball game. Of course, we all bring up that 180 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: they had no pressures necessarily, they didn't have any sacks. 181 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: But we know how that goes with Brady. If you 182 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: don't cover them down the field, then yes, you're gonna 183 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: have issues stopping him from throwing the ball on time. 184 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: But d Law was all over the field, and he 185 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: was trying to make things happen. You can see there 186 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: was a sense of urgency in his game, and you 187 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: can see that he's playing with a healthier body. Now. 188 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: You can see that was the whole DeMarcus Lawrence in 189 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: the ball game. I think he'll play pretty well this season. 190 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm predicted right now, like like Broccoley says, I guarantee, 191 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: I guarantee d law is gonna get two sacks this weekend. 192 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to write that down two sacks this 193 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: week Well, he was the one that forced that fumble, 194 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: wasn't he in the game? Yes? And it was a 195 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: violent fum fumble hit or a fumble hit whatever, forced fumble. Yeah, 196 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: he punched it out. He punched it out. Yeah Yeah. 197 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: And then one other thing in practice, Donovan Wilson, they 198 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: held him out aggravated his groin that had been bothering 199 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: him prior to the start of the season. So we'll 200 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: see where that one goes. And Nashan right for personal reasons, 201 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: had to miss practice and to ever Sue's point about 202 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, Okay, we've talked about the Cowboys issues at 203 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: right tackle and replacing law Collins well, the Chargers have 204 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: their own issues at right tackle with Brian Bulaga, the 205 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: starter who has a back issue, and in fact, he 206 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: came out of their opener against Washington. He played forty 207 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: five plays, they had eighty one plays on offense. He 208 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: was in there for forty five, had to come out 209 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: of the game, and so and Storm Norton were replaced 210 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: him at right tackle. And so that is basically who 211 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence is going to be going up. And it's 212 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: a plush here, right And so I think that's a 213 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: great prediction on your part, Everson. I don't know if 214 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: if you were aware of the fact that they've got 215 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: their own issues at right tackle, and so be d 216 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: law is going to get his number, and they sort 217 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: of remade their offensive man and ray Shawn Slater first 218 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: round picked for out of Northwestern, who a lot of 219 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: people around here were thinking that the Cowboys might be 220 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: interested in taking in the first round. He's looked really 221 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: good U and early on in preseason and in their 222 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: first game also, and then they acquire the center this 223 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: year was either last year Corey Lindsley, Yes, this year 224 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Green Bay right paid a lot of money 225 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: for to get him and their right guard, as well 226 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: as an unrestricted free agent signing from Pittsburgh. His name 227 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Matt Feeler. Matt Feeler, not familiar with him. Familiar with 228 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Coreley Lindsley, and I'm sure McCarthy is too, right, that's right. 229 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: And he's familiar with Brian Bulage as well, of course, 230 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: who once upon up time, that's going back eleven years ago, 231 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: was a first round draft pick of the Packers. So 232 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: so it's it's not just the Cowboys that are having 233 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: problems with their offensive line. Sometimes you got to look 234 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: at that other side. 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On Sunday afternoon, three twenty five, 281 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: kickoff the Cowboys and the Chargers, and I can only 282 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: imagine what it will be like for the home opener 283 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football a week from Monday against the Philadelphia Eagles. 284 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Mickey stepped out for a second. He's working on some 285 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: late breaking news. Perhaps Everson. We shall see, but Everson, 286 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: let's think he's on it. That's right, until Micky gets back, 287 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: because I know he wants to talk about the quarterback matchup. 288 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the receivers for the Chargers for just 289 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: a second here, and the challenge it presents for the 290 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys DBS going up against a guy like Keenan Allen 291 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: who is sick two bigger guy, and he's averaged one 292 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: hundred one hundred receptions of season the last four years. 293 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: And uh then they also have Mike Williams, a six 294 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: four target who caught a nice back shoulder touchdown from 295 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Herbert against Washington and the season opener, and uh so 296 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: those those factor in Jared Cook, the big tight end 297 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: as well, who's still going strong at age whatever he is, 298 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: over over age thirty. Uh and uh there's some big 299 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: targets that Herbert has to throw too. Well. You know, 300 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: I when I when I think of the tight end 301 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: that you're mentioned, you know, he always he always looked 302 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: like a veteran, even when he was younger with the Saints. Uh, 303 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, he always looked like a guy. He reminded. 304 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: He runs like Billy Joe Dupree. Yeah, you know, he's 305 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: got that old man run right. But he's got the 306 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: great hands. If you recall Green Bay game, the right, 307 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: am I right? The Green Bay game where he kind 308 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: of the great field gold rains. Don't bring that up. 309 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, don't, Oh my goodness, don't get it out. 310 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: So that's what this team has. A quarterback that throws 311 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: an extremely catchable ball. When you look at how he 312 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: lays in there, it's like Danny White used to throw 313 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: it a little bit. He has a little bit more 314 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: unf on it, and his timing is a little better. 315 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: But he is a quarterback that's gonna put it in 316 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: there where it's supposed to be. Now, as a dB, 317 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: you like those kind of quarterbacks because you know they're 318 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna put it in there. So if you cover the guy, 319 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: you got yourself a pig because he's gonna go on timing. 320 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna do a lot like Brady does. But their 321 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: passing game deals more with a deeper seventh step drop 322 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: than you would see coming from Tampa. The Cowboys are 323 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with in the secondary. Keenan Allen, 324 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: who is there with Maury Cooper. This guy's an amazing 325 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: route runner. You talk about the hundred receptions four years 326 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: that is, I can't remember how many people have done that. 327 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: It's got to only be a handful of people that 328 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: can say that they've done that. So this team is 329 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: very accomplished in this passing game. I think if we're 330 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna have any opportunity that we still have to play 331 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: the way we have to play shut down that run. 332 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Still gotta shut the run down. And I think we 333 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: just take our chances. As far as the passing game 334 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: is concerned, I think we have a few more playmakers 335 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: in the Secondarily. I liked the four turnouts we had, 336 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: and yes the fourth one was of hail Mary, you know, 337 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the half, but we still did 338 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: well with that. We are more we are a more 339 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: opportunistic defense now. I truly believe that, and I think 340 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna I think we're still gonna have 341 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: problems with the passing game. I'm just worried about make 342 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: sure we stop that run. And here's what those three 343 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: receivers we talked about did last week against Washington. Jared 344 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Cook had five catches for fifty six yards, Mike Williams 345 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: had eight catches for eighty two yards in that touchdown, 346 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen nine catches for one hundred yards. So 347 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: why did they only score twenty points? They turned the 348 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: ball over there an, there was an interception in the 349 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: red zone. There was a freaky fumble that should have 350 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I thought should have been an incomplete pass. Herbert was 351 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: back to pass throwing for the left corner of the 352 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: end zone, got hit and they ruled it a fumble 353 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: on the field, and I guess there wasn't enough evidence 354 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: to show that he still had control of the ball 355 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: as he released it, and so they kept it as 356 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: a fumble recovered by Washington otherwise. So a couple of 357 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: red zone turnovers is what cost them a lot to 358 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: keep their score down last week. So, speaking of Herbert, 359 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: I started looking at the Charger's release. Do you want 360 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: a few mix shots on them? Yeah, an early mix 361 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: shot here. In the past five starts, dating back to 362 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: last season, Justin Herbert has led the Bolts on four 363 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: game winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime. In 364 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: last week's game at Washington, the Chargers converted fourteen of 365 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: nineteen third downs. The fourteen third down conversions were the 366 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: most by any team in the last decade in a 367 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: single game. This is what Herbert at quarterback. Remember he 368 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: was offensive ap Rookie of the Year last year. Third 369 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: down passing touchdowns since the start of the twenty twenty 370 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: season tied for first place with Tom Brady is Justin Herbert. 371 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Third down passing Rady raiding one hundred attempts since the 372 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: start of the twenty twenty season, Herbert is fifth at 373 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: one h two point five on third down and passing 374 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: yards leaders first sixteen career starts in pro football. Patrick 375 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes through for fifty one hundred yards and second Justin 376 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: Herbert four thousand, six hundred and seventy five. So this 377 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: guy is kind of the real deal. And I thought 378 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: the thing that Mike McCarthy said about him that stuck 379 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: out to me because of the length of their wide receivers, 380 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: you have to consider their wide receivers always open because 381 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: you can throw the ball up on them even if 382 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: they're covered, and they'll come down with the football. So 383 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: just know that while I'm sure everybody out there is 384 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of going, oh, we almost survived Tom Brady, well, 385 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: this guy's pretty darn good too, just doesn't have the 386 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: same experience. All right, So, how long have we thought 387 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert is this type of quarterback? Well? I 388 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: know one person that thought about him this well, long 389 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: time ago, the same person who said a lot of 390 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: good things about Troy Aikman when he scouted him coming 391 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: out of UCLA some thirty two years ago. Now, absolutely, 392 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: and you think we Hall of Famer, we can hear 393 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: Gil brand So here is This is Gilbrandt from when 394 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen on the Cowboys Legends radio show with two 395 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: guys named Bill Jones and Nicky Spagnola. All right, let's 396 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: take a listen to what Gil Brandt was saying about 397 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert before years ago, before anyone had even heard 398 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert unless you're an Oregon Duck fan. And 399 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The best quarterback I've ever seen 400 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: is a junior at Oregon by the name of Herbert. 401 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: And the interesting thing about it is he went to school, 402 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: he was not recruited by anybody except Mountain West. He 403 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: threw two touchdown passes last week by Mountain West team 404 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: or not Mountain West Big Sky teams and his father. 405 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: His father went to Oregon State, his mother went to 406 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Oregon State, but his grandfather went to Oregon. And the 407 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: grandfather's name Schwab. He was there in nineteen sixty three. 408 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: I remember him and Charles Schwab. This guy, this guy's 409 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: I think is gonna be unbelievable. Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert. 410 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: He's like six to five, two hundred forty pounds and 411 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: he runs about four to six. Oh my wow. And 412 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: you know what, after Gil told us that I remember 413 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: specifically making a point to go watch an Oregon game 414 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: when was on television to see what this guy was 415 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: all about. And my reaction then as then as I 416 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: was there, Oh my, he was pretty darn good, all right. 417 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: And Herbert's grandfather, not Charles Schwab, but Rich Schwab, played 418 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: receiver in Oregon in the nineteen sixties and that's why 419 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: Gil remembers him. So Gil scotted him too, back in 420 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: the sixties. And Justin Herbert also grew up. According to 421 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: his Wikipedia page, anyway, we could always below. Yes, absolutely, 422 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: he grew up a San Diego Chargers fan. Even though 423 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: he grew up in the state of Oregon. He probably graduated. 424 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: He graduated from Oregon with a degree in biology. And 425 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: all right, this tells you how smart this justin Herbert is. 426 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: He was awarded the twenty nineteen William V. Campbell Trophy, 427 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: which is considered the academic heisman. So there you go. So, 428 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: by the way, and Everson, this is uh specifically for you. 429 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: The reason I was late coming back in I wanted 430 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: to go out and see who the interviews were with. 431 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: They were supposed to be with, Ceedee lamb Ezekiel Elliott, 432 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: Zach Martin, and DeMarcus Lawrence. Well, Dlawrence Armstrong's coming out 433 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: for DeMarcus Lawrence, and that just kind of raised my 434 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: antennas of I don't know, so we need to pay 435 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: attention to see if it's just he decided not to 436 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: come out and do that, or if something took place 437 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: in practice. Hmm. Oh, I hope that's not the case. 438 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: So there they were. They I think they finished the 439 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: other three interviews and they were waiting for Dorian's Armstrong 440 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: to come out. It may have just been a veteran's 441 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: decision could have been again, he might have looked where. 442 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: He might have looked where the where the cameras and 443 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: the microphones were set up, and goes, now that's too 444 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: far for me to watch. Yeah, you get out there, 445 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: You get out there, young pup. So this this justin 446 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: Herbert got first of all six five? Is he six five? 447 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: He did not look? He doesn't look six five on 448 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the field. Was he look six seven? He looks, He looks, 449 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: he looks smaller, He looks smaller, almost looks a little slight. 450 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: So I was very I'm very surprised to hear that 451 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: from Guilder, from you Upagnol. He is. And the other 452 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: thing is, thank god he's young now because he does throw. 453 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: He does throw some err passes. Because the guy's full 454 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: of confidence, you know, talking about how smart he is. 455 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: I can do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And he's feeling himself 456 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: and he's got that past, happy offense, which is great 457 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: for him. I'm sure that's why he likes San Diego. 458 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: He probably has some memories of fouts or somebody Philip 459 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Rivers out there chunk in that rock in the backfield. 460 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of a quarterback's dream. And he 461 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: probably knows he's got the same intellect as those two 462 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: previous guys. I just will actually on their roster. He 463 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: isn't six five, he's six six and from the from 464 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: the Scouting Combine he measured the Scouting Combine official measurement 465 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert's not only six six, he's six six 466 00:28:53,000 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: and a quarter two thirty six pounds. Wow. Wow, that 467 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: he does not look that big. Do you think he 468 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: he plays hunched over or something. He didn't stand up taller. 469 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: I would if I saw him if I really thought 470 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: he was around de Nucci size. I thought he was 471 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: around Nucci. That's a that's but that's just me. Obviously 472 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: I was. I was very wrong. He's a half foot taller, 473 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: and he can move. He can move like de Nucci. Um. 474 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: And you know he ran a four six eight at 475 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: the combine. That's pretty good when your six sets fashion 476 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: than me. Ye, No, come on, what do you run? 477 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: What do you run? At Grambling's protect They had me. 478 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: We'll see. First of all, let's let's clarify some things. 479 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: Grambling has no glass or turf. We had sand, red 480 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: dirt and sand. So they said I ran a four 481 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: seven four, and I I felt good about that until 482 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: they told me what the number was. I think probably 483 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: my best forty on the reel was probably a four 484 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: to six. You know, as far as being timed, now 485 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: on the field there's a whole different thing, but times 486 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: is by the four six. You know, that was the 487 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: problem with Jerry Rice when he ran his forty at 488 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Mississippi Valley State. No grass. Probably we don't have the 489 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: greatest facility, yes, man, Yeah, they're not running on We 490 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: got rid all over the place. They're not running on 491 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: turf inside right in the sterile atmosphere. So they probably 492 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: measured it off wrong. That's ever since he probably you 493 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: probably ran forty two yards instead of forty probably probably, Yeah, 494 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: that's the scouts fault. They measure so and I um, 495 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: I was trying to remember. It was McCarthy or Quinn. 496 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it was Quinn talking about Herbert and he 497 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: said that, you know, he's very mobile, and when he 498 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: gets outside the pocket, he's not getting outside the pocket 499 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: to run. He keeps his eyes down the field and 500 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: he's looking to throw the ball, so he's basically extending plays. 501 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: And he said, you know there's two parts to this. 502 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, if he's in the pocket. You know you 503 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: can count one, two, three, You hope the balls out, 504 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: but when he starts to move, you may have to 505 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: play that play for seven seconds. You got to stay 506 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: with your receivers because he doesn't really want to run. 507 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: If he has to, he will, but he wants to 508 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field, and he did run. 509 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: The guys go ahead, Everson. When you start, when you start, 510 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: when you start talking about the quarterbacks that we're going 511 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: up against this year, Justin Herbert is just as typical 512 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: as the ones we're gonna see all season. For the 513 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: most part, everybody's thrown for over three hundred yards. You 514 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: just might as well get ready for that. It's gonna 515 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: be a past happy year, more so now than ever, 516 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: I believe, especially from what we've seen this past weekend. 517 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: And the other thing is you've got a secondary that 518 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: you have to depend on to still make plays. You're 519 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna give them up. But the only thing that's gonna 520 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: stop these three hundred yard passers is you have to 521 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: offset those big plays that they're gonna have offensively with 522 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: turnovers of your own. We showed that in this last game. 523 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: It kept us in the game, and it's gonna have 524 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: to keep us in every game this season because the 525 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: yards are gonna come. That's okay, that's the league. Now, 526 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Make sure you're not don't get frustrated, 527 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: and you gotta get yours exactly. And to echo what 528 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: you just said. So I just counted it up. Eleven 529 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks this first week through for at least three hundred yards, 530 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: eleven of them. And as we said yesterday, sixteen teams 531 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: scored twenty seven points or more. So in this league, 532 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: it's a passing league. I bet all these other teams 533 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: aren't sitting there asking their head coach about balance. Right 534 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: you think anybody asks John Gruden about balance? Because car 535 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: through for four hundred and thirty five yards, coach, don't 536 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: you need some balance? Balance this? Mickey? When we come 537 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: back here on mix shots, I want you to have 538 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: the number of how many quarterbacks through the ball forty 539 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: five or more times this in week one of the season. 540 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Have that number four us when we come back on 541 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: mix shots. 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Okay. 603 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: I did my homework assignment Bill Jones gave me, which 604 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: was how many quarterbacks in the National Football League in 605 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: Week one through forty five or more? Passes? Oh, I 606 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: thought you asked for forty Well we can go forward 607 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: to give you forty eight. And of those eight, six 608 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: of them through fifty or more. Okay. My question then 609 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: was how many sco through fifty or more? Yeah? Now 610 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: Herbert through forty seven in a winning propose? And I 611 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: also looked up how many Um like that can't be 612 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: right because well, you know what the ones det through 613 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: forty or more got? It was forty seven or more. Okay. 614 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: There was a forty seven forty nine and the other 615 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: ones were fifty okay, So yeah, which was my point? 616 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Five or more? So forty seven or more? There are 617 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks, do you happen? Can you read them off 618 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: for me? I can't you want forty seven or more? 619 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: Forty seven or more? So forty nine? Kirk Cousins. Okay, 620 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: they lost in overtime, right trying to catch up? Prescott 621 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: fifty eight lost a close game two point game and 622 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: two Brady fifty they won, So that's one in two 623 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: Goff fifty seven, fifty seven. They came back. They were 624 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: down forty one sixteen, came back, made it, So that's 625 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: one in three Car fifty six. They won a close 626 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: game two and three. Herbert forty seven. They won a 627 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: close game three and three Alan Buffalo. They Buffalo got 628 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: beat by Pittsburgh three and four. And then well where's 629 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: Brady Brady was fifty you said I did, and then 630 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Lawrence Jacksonville, so they were three and five. Yeah, the quarterbacks, 631 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: you threw that many. My point on that was, I 632 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: think you're what we're finding here. And Everson talked about 633 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: it earlier in the show, and you've talked about it too, 634 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: and some of us is fairly obvious just the way 635 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: the game has evolved, but it even seems like it's 636 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: evolving even more towards throwing the football. It's in the 637 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: dna of so many offensive coordinators in this lead to 638 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: throw the ball, and with the talent on hand and 639 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: the abilities that I mean, you just look at the 640 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: draft every year and how many receivers there are in 641 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: the draft that the college game is producing. It's it's 642 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: just more and more. It's a past happy league. And 643 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: we only have five players who rushed for at least 644 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: one hundred yards, just five. So Harris New England Damien 645 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: Harris did. Is that Damien Harris Okay also fumbled or 646 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: costly fumbled. Gordon for Denver. Melvin Gordon had a seventy 647 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: yard run. They got him one oh one. So yeah, 648 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: so he has ten eleven carries for one oh one 649 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: and went for seven at seventy so he had ten 650 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: carries for thirty one and then a seventy yard Yeah. Uh. 651 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: Mitchell San Francisco, Elijah Mitchell him. He's a rookie. He 652 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: got a lot of tech I think, and or one 653 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: of the Louisiana schools. I really liked him coming out 654 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. One hundred and four yards Montgomery, Chicago. 655 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that he rushed for so much 656 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: Mitchell did is they lost mostart in that game, right 657 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: they did? And then they got off to a pretty 658 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: big lead, didn't they if I remember correctly, So they're 659 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: probably grinding at the end. Montgomery sixteen carries one oh 660 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: eight for the Bears and mixing in overtime Cincinnati and 661 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: that went all the way ten minutes of overtime. If 662 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: I remember, twenty nine carries for one hundred and twenty 663 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: seven yards. So the guy that had the best, you know, 664 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: perk carry average ended up being Gordon An for nine 665 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: point two. But it was one run. So yeah, So 666 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't like people were just grinding away running the football. 667 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: But I do think and Parcels talked about this a 668 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: lot to wait until you get into November and December 669 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: and you get bad weather and so forth, and teams 670 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: will run it more. I think every year in September, 671 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: you're gonnas. There's gonna be more throwing that's going on, 672 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: and the game dictates it a lot. But I thought 673 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: what was remarkable about the Cowboys Tampa Bay game and 674 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did. It wasn't like they came to 675 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and said we're going to throw 676 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: it fifty eight times. It is they saw what the 677 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: defense was giving them, basically, and Dak took what the 678 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: defense was giving them. You know. The other thing, I'm 679 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: trying to see the number Mic threw it out today. 680 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: He was saying, and some of the runs that we 681 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: could have had and this wasn't in reference to what 682 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore said yesterday, but he said there there was 683 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: a few RPOs where they could have ran it, but 684 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: Dak chose to pull it back and throw the ball. 685 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: So it's like they had those there, and that kind 686 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: of went up to how many times they ended up 687 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: running the football. But all told, it's you need receiving 688 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: cores like these teams have, and you need quarterbacks like 689 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: these teams have. And that's what I love about this 690 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: matchup the Cowboys and the Chargers this week because even 691 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: though the Cowboys are down, Michael Gallup, with Amari Cooper 692 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: and with Ceedee Lamb, and with what the tight ends 693 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: can do catching the ball, what the running backs can 694 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: do catching the ball out of the backfield, there's still 695 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: plenty of weapons for Dak to do what he wants 696 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: to do in this game. I think what McCarthy's quote was, 697 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: if you throw the ball fifty times, but fifteen of 698 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: them are RPOs, so it kind of distorts how many 699 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: times you actually were calling run plays. They want to 700 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: run the ball, they want to give Zeke the ball. 701 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: And I thought it, I don't remember if I said 702 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: it yesterday. I thought it was remarkable that even though 703 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: Zeke wasn't they weren't feeding him. He was doing his 704 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: job picking up the blitzes and blocking in the pass game. Well, 705 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: here's the deal I think on running the ball where 706 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: it factored into that game the other day, is when you, 707 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: especially in that circumstance when Tom Brady is the quarterback 708 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: on the other side, you have the football in the 709 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: final two minutes. You want to be able to move 710 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: the chains to be able to have the football at 711 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: the end kicking your field goal to win the game 712 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: and not allow Tom Brady back on the field. And 713 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 1: in order to do that, you have to be able 714 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: to run the football because because the way the defense 715 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: is going to play you, they're doing everything they can 716 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: to keep you from getting that first down in the 717 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: passing game, and if you have, if you haven't established 718 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: the fact that you can run it, then your chances 719 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: of converting are not great and you can just like 720 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: in the Cowboys case, they had a holding penalty that 721 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: set them behind the chains. You typically if you're able 722 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: to run the ball three four yards five yards at 723 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: a clip, you're not going to have penalties and you're 724 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: going to be in third and two rather than third 725 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: and ten. So and remember when they got the ball 726 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: back at four fifty two in the fourth quarter against 727 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: New England degree against Tampa Bay. They're behind, right, so 728 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: in your mind you're thinking, okay, we got to go 729 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: and probably got to score a touchdown. We're not trying 730 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: to just drain the clock. But once, but once, CD 731 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: made the play the thirty one yard that got him 732 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,959 Speaker 1: into the field into field goal range with two minute. 733 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: It was the first play of the final two minutes, 734 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: so it was a minute fifty five to play at 735 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: that point. Now you can manage things. Now you need 736 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 1: to get that first down. You need to for them 737 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: to use their timeouts Tampa Bay and then get the 738 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: ear first down where you can now bleed the clock 739 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: all the way down. And the Cowboys weren't able to 740 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: do that right, And here what happened. So the first 741 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: play they ran Zeke right, he got one yard and 742 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: they're at the ten. So now you got to go 743 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: ninety yards try to score a touchdown on that drive. Okay, 744 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: they got to second and ten at their own thirty 745 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: eight and he hits a twenty three yard pass, the 746 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: CD lamb and the Cowboys get called for holding, which 747 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: was that was the one on Tyrn Smith that I 748 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: think they said Collins were said on TV goes Boa 749 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: that was kind of picky. So now you're second and 750 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: twenty at the twenty six, well, okay, you pass, you pass. 751 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: They got the second and ten after they got the 752 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: first down the play you were talking about to Cede 753 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: Lamb and they ran Zeke for four yards. Okay, they 754 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: had an incomplete pass first right right, and then they 755 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: ran Zeke for four yards and then they short passed 756 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: to Zeke again no gain, but that's almost like a run. 757 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: And now on that play they got called for holding 758 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: right Williams. So now you're third and sixteen, Well you're 759 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: passing right right, And unfortunately they only ended up with 760 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: ten yards and then they had to kick the fields. 761 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: What what I would have liked once they got to 762 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: the thirty four. I would have liked to have run 763 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: it on first down and it was an incomplete pass, 764 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: So run both both times. Yeah, where if you can 765 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: you know, even if you just get two yards on 766 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: first down and you're second and eight, and then if 767 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: you can get forward and make it third and four, 768 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: and now the defense doesn't know whether you can run 769 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: it or passing it, because then then you're in a 770 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: position if you even get it down to fourth and one, 771 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: now you could make the decision whether you want to 772 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: go for it because they've used their timeouts, whether you 773 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: want to go for it. And you know people have 774 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: talked about fourth and sixth at the thirty, Well I 775 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: would have just gone for it anyway, you know, because 776 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: that's twenty four left. Yeah, met fourth and one. You 777 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: can make that decision whether you whether you're going to 778 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: go forth. So kind of where where it's sort of 779 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: messed up? Uh, you know, had they not gotten that 780 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: holding penalty right right? And even though it was no gain, 781 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: you're at the thirty now again, think about this, Your 782 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: kicker is already missed from thirty one and thirty three. 783 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: How much faith did you have when him when he 784 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: signed he lined up for a forty eight yard field goal. 785 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: If you're at the thirty, right, you're thinking, oh, I 786 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: better get this closer. And so there was there was 787 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: more to think about than just draining the clock. It 788 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,479 Speaker 1: was like, can I get my kicker if I don't 789 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: get the first down comfortable? At that point when you're 790 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: third and sixteen at the forty, you got to get 791 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: it to the third eighty Triapri eight yard field and 792 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: that's where they were it did, which they were there 793 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: until they got the holding penalty, right, So yeah, you 794 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: know when you look back at it, yeah, you shore 795 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: ran the ball more and you would have drained more 796 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: time off the clock, but you needed to kick a 797 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: field goal, and you needed your field goal kicker to 798 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: be comfortable, and I don't know that he was comfortable. 799 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of people are sitting there 800 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: going fourth and six, Oh, you gotta go for And 801 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: for that matter, at this point in the season, you 802 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: don't have confidence that you can run the ball down there, Okay, 803 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: especially against that defense, which was the number one right 804 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: run defense in the league last year. So it matters 805 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: who you're playing against also, And I also think you 806 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: see this even with really good offensive lines, sometimes it 807 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: takes a month into the season before the run blocking 808 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: is really clicking for these teams. And they didn't have 809 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: these guys all together through all of training camp, right, 810 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: It was kind of patchwork, right, you know. So yeah, 811 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: and so that was really the first game those five 812 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: played together. And now those five on all they didn't 813 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 1: even work together, right, because Zach Martin was missing, that's right, 814 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: and now they'll have Lele Collins missing, Zack's back, Dat's back. 815 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: So you'd have to go back sometime in the two 816 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen season too, and you had Travis Frederick then, 817 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: and so they this offensive line has never played together, right, 818 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: this is this is this is not your ten year 819 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: olds offensive line. Okay, all right, that does it for 820 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: mixed shots for this Wednesday, and Everson hopefully we'll be 821 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: joining us from a remote location again tomorrow. And for 822 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, I'm Bill Jones. We'll chat at you again 823 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: tomorrow at one thirty. This has been a production of 824 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.