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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocates Law dot com. Maya is on

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Speaker 1: the phone today for a first date follow up and

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Speaker 1: she's getting ghosted by a guy named Aaron. So in

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Speaker 1: a second we're going to call him and seefield house

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Speaker 1: why is ghosting her? And maybe get her another date

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Speaker 1: if she still wants one. But first, Maya, how long

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Speaker 1: has it been since you heard from Aaron?

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Speaker 2: It's been a month? Oh, a long time.

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Speaker 3: Why do you want to get a hold of him

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Speaker 3: if it's been a whole month.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just really felt like we had a really

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Speaker 2: good connection.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The conversation was really effortless, and we had a lot

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Speaker 2: in common, and it just felt really special.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's kind of hard to find that

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Speaker 4: some nowadays, you know, and like hard to meet people

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Speaker 4: and it's hard to really feel that genuine connection.

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Speaker 2: So I thought it was special, and I wish you's

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Speaker 2: thinking about him.

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Speaker 1: Have you tried to reach out to him in this time?

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Speaker 5: I have.

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Speaker 2: I reached out to him three times, but I haven't

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Speaker 2: heard that.

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Speaker 1: What do you say when you reach out?

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Speaker 2: Well, first time it was, Oh, I had a great time.

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Speaker 2: It was it was really great getting to know you,

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Speaker 2: like to see you again. And then the second time

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Speaker 2: it was pretty much the same, Like I was just

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Speaker 2: you know, just reach out again, you know, just seeing

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Speaker 2: how you're doing. And then the third time I was kind.

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Speaker 6: Of concerned for his well being because I was like, well,

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Speaker 6: maybe something happened to him, you know, and I.

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Speaker 4: Was, it's okay, but I still haven't heard anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and why don't you tell us about the date?

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Speaker 1: How did all of that go?

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 4: We had this really cool jazz bar and it was

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Speaker 4: a really romantic atmosphere and we both were both really

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Speaker 4: into music, so you know, we were listening to music

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Speaker 4: and talking about the music.

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Speaker 2: And then we just really clicked. We should a huge dreams.

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Speaker 6: We had this really nice little boost, so it was

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Speaker 6: really easy to talk and that's about our work of

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Speaker 6: traveling and our where we want to go and like

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Speaker 6: places we want to go to, and we talked about uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, our heads and our passions and it was

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Speaker 6: really just great. And he was really funny and he's

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Speaker 6: making me laugh, and uh, it just kind of felt

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Speaker 6: like we'd known each other for years, you know, and

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Speaker 6: we did, uh, we did share a kids at the

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Speaker 6: end of the night, which.

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Speaker 2: I usually don't do, but I was was going so well,

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Speaker 2: so you know.

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Speaker 1: You sound so giddy right now just reliving it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I could just really help for him,

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Speaker 4: you know. And then and it was a really good kiss.

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Speaker 1: Sparks. Do you like too?

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Speaker 4: I think so?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I I think he I think he did,

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Speaker 7: you know, could be in his eyes and and and he.

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Speaker 2: And he said, you know, I had a really great time,

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Speaker 2: and I'd like to see you again, and just and

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Speaker 2: just really know just the way that uh, the kiss, well,

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Speaker 2: you know it was you know.

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Speaker 4: It started out we cut tentative, and then it got

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Speaker 4: you know, we got cut into it and and and

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Speaker 4: it just felt so you know, so so natural. You

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Speaker 4: just kind of figure out the angles and everything, and it.

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Speaker 1: Just why do you think you're getting ghosted?

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, this is embarrassing, but you know, he was

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Speaker 4: really funny, and he was, you know, you know, just

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Speaker 4: like cutting jokes the whole night and cracking me up.

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Speaker 4: I love a guy with some of humor, you know,

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Speaker 4: and he made this one. It's a really funny joke

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Speaker 4: and I laughed so hard, like some smatch came out

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it. He was kind

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Speaker 2: of looking away, but it's kind of it was dark

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Speaker 2: I worked into a real quick but uh, maybe he did.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he was like, oh, like, sort's a little embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't go somebody for that, you know.

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Speaker 1: I just take it as a compliment that I made

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Speaker 1: them laugh so hard that they couldn't control their snot

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Speaker 1: oh's so cute. Yeah, all right, well we'll see if

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Speaker 1: we can figure it out. We'll play us on come

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Speaker 1: us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh, thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Plaus On, come out and get your first day follow

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Speaker 1: up next. Right in the middle of today's first date

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Speaker 1: follow up, if you're just joining us, Maya is on

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Speaker 1: the phone and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Aaron.

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Speaker 1: So we're about to call him and see if he'll

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Speaker 1: tell us why he's Ghostinger and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 1: But first, Maya, why don't you refresh everybody's memory about

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Speaker 1: your date with Erin.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well it was really great.

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Speaker 4: So we met up at this really nice jazz bar.

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Speaker 4: We heard some great music, we had a booth. Was

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Speaker 4: a really nice intimate date, and we had a nice

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Speaker 4: conversation and he was really funny and we really hit

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Speaker 4: it off, being a lot in common, and Hen had

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Speaker 4: a really nice kids at the end.

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Speaker 2: Of the day, and I would love to see him again.

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Speaker 4: And I even texted him a few times and I

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Speaker 4: just never heard anything back.

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Speaker 1: And it's been about a Okay, you ready for us

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Speaker 1: to call him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? A little nervous then.

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Speaker 1: All right, and you think the reason you're getting ghosted

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Speaker 1: is because you blew us? Not rocket say that. She

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Speaker 1: just said a little came out, which was laughing, big different.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I'm gonna doll this one number. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: I speak to Aaron. Please.

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Speaker 2: This is Aaron.

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Speaker 1: Aaron, Hey man, how are you? My name is Jewbell.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling from a radio show. It's called The Jebel Show. Hi, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: I'm Nina also on the show. Hey, and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 1: How many people live this three?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And it's a radio show. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you heard that part I did? Okay, have you ever

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Speaker 1: listened to the show before.

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Speaker 2: Uh, sometimes on my way to work.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Have you ever heard of first state follow

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Speaker 1: up before? I? Yeah, I guess Okay, that's good. Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what erin?

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Speaker 2: I'm on it?

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Speaker 1: You are now the star of one?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea? Who would email us about you?

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Speaker 8: I might have an idea.

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Speaker 2: I don't really date many people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who do you think? It is?

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Speaker 8: Probably Maya?

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Speaker 1: Guess what erin? You're absolutely correct. My emailed us and

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Speaker 1: told us about your date, and she wants to know

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Speaker 1: why you're ghosting? Would you tell us?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 8: It's kind of crazy timing. So I have a real

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Speaker 8: bad anxiety and I'm kind of working through it with

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Speaker 8: my therapist, and we actually in my last session just

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Speaker 8: talked about Maya. And you know, I feel bad for

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Speaker 8: now reaching out and possibly hurting her feelings, but I,

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Speaker 2: I find myself figuring up the phone.

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Speaker 8: To call her or you know, respond to her text messages,

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Speaker 8: but I just I just can't.

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Speaker 1: So your therapist is helping you with that, Like, do

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Speaker 1: you think that you're going to reach out to her?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Was that part of the plan?

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Speaker 2: That was it?

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Speaker 9: I just haven't been able to you know, push that

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Speaker 1: Oh, they just can't call her. Yeah, it's just I.

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Speaker 8: Don't know what to say.

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Speaker 9: And now it's been about a month and it just

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Speaker 9: makes things a little worse.

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Speaker 8: And now I'm on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's good timing though, because maybe this will put

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Speaker 1: you in a position to not have to worry about

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Speaker 1: what to say because she wants to know why you're

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Speaker 1: not calling it. I guess that helps, just like anxiety

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I have a fear of rejection, I guess

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Speaker 9: is what my therapist said. Okay, like I said, I

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Speaker 9: don't really date much, so when I do date Aaron,

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Speaker 9: have you ever heard of the term cognitive behavioral therapy?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, okay, cool, Well I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 1: what it is. So cognitive behavioral therapy is when if

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Speaker 1: So like if you're scared of jumping into water, they'll

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Speaker 1: and you'll be like, Okay, it's not that scary.

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Speaker 2: Sounds terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the reason that I bring that up to

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Speaker 1: listening and wants to talk to you. So okay, hey.

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Speaker 3: Good to hear your sorry, you know, well hearing your

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Speaker 4: Make me relieve because I thought that you just lost

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Speaker 6: Known?

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Speaker 2: But it's more of the opposite.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I have you know, I care about you or

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Speaker 8: I have strong feelings and I'm not sure how to

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I care about you too, and I understand.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, it did really hurt my feelings.

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Speaker 4: When I never heard anything from you, and then I

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Speaker 4: know that's very hard to work through, you know.

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Speaker 2: I sometimes I think it can be an excuse, you know,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or my own,

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Speaker 8: So I just yeah, So so.

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Speaker 2: Is it an excuse?

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Speaker 8: I mean no, No, I really liked you.

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Speaker 6: I really like.

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Speaker 9: You, and i'd like to, you know, hang out, but

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Speaker 2: Oh, I understand, and I don't want to do too

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Speaker 2: and be awkward.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't think you're awkward at all. And we

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Speaker 7: had our date. I thought it was great and the

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Speaker 7: conversation was great, and you were really charming and funny

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Speaker 7: and and I'd like to see you again, and I'm

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Speaker 7: willing to work with you, and you know, and the.

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Speaker 2: Understandings, seeing how much I was sweating.

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Speaker 1: To go out with Maa again, we'll pay for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Look at that.

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Speaker 1: That's exciting. You got a second date, Maya, and we

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Speaker 1: here to Aaron's fear of rejection. Isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should pay you guys.

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Speaker 1: Jubile's first date follow up