1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Mark Moa 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Show where we're talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and the 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: decentralized revolution each and every week, and um, you know, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I try to bring to you the education that you 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: need to really understand what's going on the latest news, 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: latest and breaking news headlines each never week to keep 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: you informed, and then you know, share with you some 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: of the best and brightest people in the space to 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: kind of give you that perspective. And I want to 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: dig into some of the latest breaking news that's going 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: on right now. And there is some hot, hot news 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: that's actually happening right now as we're talking. I've been 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: listening to this uh for a better part of the day. 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: And there's a big fight. There's a fight going on 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: in UH in Congress, in UH in the government in 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: the United States right now. And the fight is, um, 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is framed up a little bit differently 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: than they want to frame it up. Um, I think 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: they're framing it up. But we kind of have the 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Democrats and the Republicans fighting against each other. The Democrats 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: are are ramping up pressure on cryptocurrencies and the Republicans 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: are trying to kind of hold them off. But I don't. 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't see it like that. I see it like 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: they are ramping up. Uh, they're ramping up their ability 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: to tell you what you can and can't do in 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: the land of the free in the United States that 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I grew up under. Um. You know, we we sent 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: our troops to war. My grandfather was a decorated World 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: War Two veteran. My father with flu jets in Vietnam. 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, We've been fighting for our freedoms and we 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: live in the land of the free. And really that's 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: what this argument is about. Um. Are we in the 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: land of the free or are we in the land 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: of central planners? That's no different than China or Russia. 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Let's dig into that for a little bit. Like I said, 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: this is going on, um. But basically you probably know 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: by now, I've talked about it extensively. In in May 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: of China kicked out all the bitcoin mining out of 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: out of the country in bandkryptocurrencies in China, and I've 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: done I've done a lot of content about that. Specifically, 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go super deep into that right now, 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: but just how it relates to what I want to 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: talk about today. Is that. You know, I made a 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: video if you're interested, on my YouTube channel, and it's 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: called China's Second Fatal Mistake. So if you want the backstory, 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: go watch the video on my My challenge to search 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: Mark Moss on YouTube China Second Fatal Mistake. But um, 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: basically China kicked all the bitcoin mining out. They had 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the majority of all the bitcoin miners in the world 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: located in China and they kicked it out. And um, 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: they decided that they didn't want to their people in 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: China to be able to have access to cryptocurrencies. Um, 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: which you know isn't super surprising in China because they 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: decide that they don't want their people to have access 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: to most things, including Google and Facebook and Amazon and 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. And so you know, they control every aspect 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: of people's lives, including what they can and can't access, 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: and so you know they to kick they want to 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: say that their people can't access cryptocurrencies, fine, kick it out. 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: Um in that video I highlighted, or maybe there was 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: another video I highlighted. Uh, I think it was a 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: separate video. Um. There's something known as the Mundo Fleming trilemma. 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: And so try lima is different than a dilemma. Diallemmas 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: you have to choose between two things. The trial limits. 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: You have to choose between one of three things or 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: two of three things. And uh, you have this under 67 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: fleming trial. Man. So a country can't optimize or can't 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: can't optimize their monetary policy on one side of the triangle, 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: their interest rate on another side of the triangle, and 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the free flow of capital in another country on another 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: side of the triangle. And so what happens is when 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: they want to manipulate the monetary supply and the interest rates, 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: then capital will either flow into the country or out 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: of the country. And if it's bad policy, money will leave. 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: But they don't want money to leave, so they do 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: something what's called capital controls. It's the final stage that 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: every empire in history goes through when they've made such 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: disastrous policies. The money tries to leave as fast as 79 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: it possibly can, and they close the closed the getaway door, 80 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: right close, burn the burn the life rafts, and they 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: shut that down. Of course, you see this happening in Venezuela, Argentina, 82 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Turkey today. People trying to get out of that as 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: fast as they can, and so in China, they shut 84 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: that off. No cryptocurrencies. Um And anyway, like I said, 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: that's China. We also saw just now, I think yesterday 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Russia is now they're they're central bank in Russia. So 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: it's not totally officially but the but the central bank 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: is also saying. The news headline here and we pulled 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: it up. Russia's Bank of Russia calls for a full 90 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: ban on crypto. Russia's central bank suggests making crypto trading, 91 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: mining and usage illegal. Owning crypto would would owning crypto 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: would be allowed, it says, um, but they don't want 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: you can't trade it, mine or use it. You can 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: own it, but you can't you can't trade it, minor 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: use it. But this is the Bank of Russia, this 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: is the government. Um but and this came out on 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: January Russia's Russia must ban cryptocurrencies, the country's central bank 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: said in a report released Thursday. Um by offering an outlet, 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: So here's what they say. By offering an outlet for 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: people to take their money out of the national economy, 101 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: they risk undermining it and making the regulator's job of 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: maintaining optimal monetary policies harder. End quote. That's their quote. 103 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: So what I just told you, which you might have 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: been going, yeah, Mark or whatever, right, like, you know 105 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That's what they just said. By 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: offering an outlet two people to take their money out 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: of the national economy, they risk undermining it and making 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: the regulator's job of maintaining optimal monetary policies harder. So 109 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: what they're saying is, if you don't continue to let 110 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: us steal from you and manipulate the currency and print 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: more of it um, and you leave our system and 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: go somewhere else, then we can't control you anymore. Then 113 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: you take away our ability to create optimal, optimal monetary policies. Well, 114 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: what are optimal monetary policies, Because I'm pretty sure that 115 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: optimal for you is probably different than optimal for me. 116 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of like this version of utopia. No such 117 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: thing as utopia. The reason why there's no such thing 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: as utopia is because my version of utopia different than 119 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: your version of utopia. One man's hell is probably another 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: man's heaven kind of a thing. So what's optimal? Uh? 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: The central bankers optimal policy is one that continues to 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: get them richer. The one that continues to get their 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: friends richer. But unfortunately, as that the sacrifice of us 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: getting poorer. UM. To me, what would be optimal would 125 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: be a free market where we can all interact freely 126 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: without having a central bank and a regulator trying to 127 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: enrich themselves and make us poor. They said that it, Um, 128 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: if we did the outlet risks, undermining it, so undermine it. 129 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: What does that mean? So, um, if we can use 130 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a different system and now there's then we've undermined it. 131 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: They don't have the ability to twists. That's that's that's 132 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: their words, that's what they're saying. Um. And so the 133 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: the central bank says that an existing ban on using 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: crypto for payments should be reinforced and punished should be Oh, 135 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: and punishment should be introduced for buying or selling good 136 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: services and labor by Russian individuals and businesses. So they 137 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: want to punish you for even providing your labor. So 138 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: if I said, hey, you know, I'll come over and 139 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: help you paying offense or dig a hole or pack 140 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: a box if you'll give me something, Nope, Nope, you 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: can't even provide your labor in exchange for another object. 142 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: That's what that's what Russia's saying. That's their words here, 143 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: punishment should be introduced for your even providing your labor 144 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: by Russian individuals. Which isn't surprising, right, I mean, you 145 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: would expect something like that out of China or Russia, 146 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: at least in the world that I grew up under. 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Maybe the world is a little bit different these days. 148 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: And so hearing something like that from China or this 149 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: is I'm reading from Russia, isn't that surprising? Growing up 150 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: under the Cold War where they try to kind of 151 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: control every area of your life. Um, and this again, 152 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: the quote unquote optimal solution would be to ban crypto 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: in Russia, says the bank. The optimal solution, But the 154 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: optimal solution for who? For who? That's that's a central 155 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: planner saying that that's a central planner saying that, right, 156 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: it's not a free market. That's not the land of 157 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: the free. That's Russia. Well, let's talk about what happened 158 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: in the US US of A today, the land of 159 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: the free becaus As I said, I was listening to this, 160 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Uh this congressmen and lawmakers, regulators um talking about this 161 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: all day, and uh kind of sounds like, exactly like 162 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: what I heard out of China and Russia. Not something 163 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: that you wuld expect to hear from the Land of Three. 164 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: So let me hear. Let me tell you what they 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: said here led by a good old Senator Elizabeth Warren. 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: By the way, you're listening to the markma Show. We're 167 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and the decentralized revolution. We're 168 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: talking about why governments wouldn't want you to have it, 169 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: and what I want to talk to you about what 170 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the USA is actually saying, and why are they kind 171 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: of sound like Russia and China, and why I think 172 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: it's wrong. Um, So I'm gonna tell you exactly what 173 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: they said and where I think you need to focus 174 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: your perspective. So don't go away. I'll be right back, 175 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back. You're listening to the Mark Moa Show, 176 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: and we're talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and the decentralized 177 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: revolution that's happening right now before our very eyes. And 178 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: before the break, I was talking about, um, China banning cryptocurrencies, 179 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: and I was talking about Russia now talking about banning cryptocurrencies, 180 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and I was planning to you exactly what they said 181 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: and the reason why I want to tell you that 182 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: is because I want to put that into contrast in 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: to what the United States is actually saying today and so, um, 184 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: there's a big, big conversation going on led by Senator 185 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, Democrat from Massachusetts, and they're saying that cryptocurrency, 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: specifically bitcoin, contributes to rising energy costs and global warming 187 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: because of its use of power generated by fossil fuels. Um. 188 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: But uh, CEO of bit Freery, Brian Brooks, who actually 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: used to work in the Treasury Department that o c 190 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: C Comptroller of the Currency. Now he's in the private markets. 191 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: But he said, quote, it's not up to the government 192 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: to decide if bitcoin is important to the country's future. 193 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: It's up to the market end quote. And I love 194 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: that quote because that's exactly right in the Land of 195 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: the Free, in a free market, is up to the 196 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: market to decide what technology is to be used. It's 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: not up to it. Now again, what I read to 198 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you from Russia, I mean that sounds like something that 199 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: would come from Russia or China because they are a 200 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: communist country that is a centrally planned economy meaning essentially planned, 201 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: meaning a few people decide for millions or hundreds of 202 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: millions of in China's case, billions of people what they 203 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: should all be doing in their lives. That's not how 204 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: the Nice States is supposed to work. And I suppose 205 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: to THEAY is supposed to be a free market, so 206 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: it's not to the government to decide. It's up to 207 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: the market, as Brian brook says, and I agree with that. 208 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: But let's let's dig in and see what they're really 209 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: saying here. So here's a quote from a Senator Elizabeth Warren, 210 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: and she says, quote the extraordinarily high energy usage and 211 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: carbon emissions associated with bitcoin mining could undo much of 212 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: our work to tackle the climate crisis, not to mention 213 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: the harmful impacts of crypto mining has on local environments 214 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: and electricity prices end quote. Um. And then she went 215 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: on to say, quote, it is time for Congress and 216 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: federal regulators to step up and address the serious risks 217 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: that crypto poses to wait for it, wait for it, 218 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: our economy and our environment end quote. So what Elizabeth 219 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Warren is saying here is the same thing that China 220 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: and Russia are saying. Cryptocurrencies pose a risk to our economy. 221 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: That's what she said, the economy and environment. But let's 222 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: just focus on the economy. Then we'll go to the environment. 223 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: So the economy piece. Um so is she saying that 224 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: having an escape route basically what Russia said? That what 225 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: China said, by having an escape route takes away their 226 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: ability to manipulate the economy. Kind of sounds like that's 227 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: what she's saying. If we if we had a party, 228 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: and if I had a giant party, and I had 229 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: everybody over there, and um, I was trying to control 230 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: the party, I don't know, you're you're too loud, everybody 231 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: do this or whatever, and everybody left. Eventually I'm the 232 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: only one wh left at the party, and I have 233 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: no control any over those people because they've all left there. 234 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: They're all started their own party somewhere else. And that's 235 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: kind of what happens with the money supply. Uh. The 236 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: more of that China or Russia or in the United 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: States wants to manipulate the money supply, people just want 238 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: to leave, they want to opt out, they want to 239 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: go to something else, and it undermines their ability to 240 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: manage the economy because we're not using their economy anymore, 241 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: which is exactly what she's saying. Um, she's been saying 242 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: a lot of this, and then she said, also the environment. 243 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: So that's the piece that I really want to dig 244 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: into right now. Um. And so uh companies say they 245 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: have powered mining farms with energy that would have otherwise 246 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: gone to waste arrangements with some utility companies looking to 247 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: unload trapped or stranded energy and power, uh, for example, 248 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: hooking up mining units to oil welles relying on natural 249 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: gas that's typically burned off as a drilling by product. 250 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: So that's what is really happening. But she says, quote 251 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: crypto mining facilities energy consumption is also causing a significant 252 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: increase in energy costs for local and small businesses and residents. 253 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: She said, all right, so that's the part that I 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about. So, um, this is the debate 255 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: that's going on in uh behind closed walls in your 256 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: government in the United States today. UM. It's uh, it's 257 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: bad for the economy, and it's bad for the environment, 258 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: and it's jacking up rates. And so because of that, 259 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: we have to go and protect everybody, and we have 260 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: to take away people's rights and control the free market. 261 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: But let's take a look at what they're saying, and 262 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: see if there is any truth to that at all, 263 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: because I say there's not. And so, um, the first 264 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: part there is that it's a it's a waste of 265 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: energy or it's bad for the for the environment, because 266 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: it's wasting energy, it's burning fossil fuels, as they say, right, So, 267 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a giant misconception with that right off 268 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the bat, and that is that as they kind of 269 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: hinted to, that it is using electricity that most people 270 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: aren't using. And so what we can see is that, Um, 271 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: there was an article written by Newsweek back in December 272 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: of seventeen and the World Economic Forum, good old Cloud 273 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Schwab picked it up and they said back in seventeen 274 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: that by so that was two years ago now, they 275 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: said that all bitcoin mining would consume all of the 276 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: world's energy, all of it, all of the amount of 277 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: energy that produced in the world would be consumed by bitcoin. 278 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Was but that was two years ago, did it? Well? No, 279 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the world uses over one 280 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand, hundred seventy thousand terawa hours of 281 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: energy per year and the bitcoin network uses less than 282 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: zero point one of the world's energy consumption for a 283 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: network of a hundred million estimated users. So that means 284 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: that Bitcoin's energy uses is a rounding error. It's a 285 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: rounding error as far as global energy usages. Uh. And 286 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: and a bigger piece of this is that all the 287 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: energy that Bitcoin is using, the rounding error, the zero 288 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: point one percent, all that energy is from otherwise wasted 289 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: energy sources. So let me explain to you about that. 290 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: So first off, um, if you say that Bitcoin network 291 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: uses too much energy, okay, but it uses less energy 292 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: than Google us less energy than YouTube, Netflix, Facebook, Amazon, 293 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: the cruise industry, Christmas lights, household drying machines, private jets, 294 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: the zinc industry, and on and on and on. So 295 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: it uses less energy than household drying. Is has household 296 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: drying a waste of energy? I mean, come on, go 297 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: hang up your clothes. Do you need to be on YouTube? 298 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: It uses less energy than YouTube? Is YouTube a waste 299 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: of energy? What about air conditioners? Is it? Uh? Do 300 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: we do we need to have air conditioners? Where I 301 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: live here by the beach, I don't have an air 302 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: condition around my house. None of the houses have air conditioners, 303 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: So why should you have one? It's a waste, right, 304 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting they say that, But bitcoins energy uces 305 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: is the closest to about the cruise industries energuces and 306 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: maybe cruise industries are a waste of energy too, but 307 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: bitcoins are used by more people and the network scales 308 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: way better. So um. But the thing is is one, 309 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: it's not using if the world's energy, it's zero point one. 310 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: But let's talk about that zero point one for a second, 311 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: because not only is it using wasted energy, it's actually helping. 312 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: It's actually helping pioneer new energy technologies. It's actually helping 313 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: pioneer new countries to come online. And so I would 314 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: say that's a net positive, not uh not a not 315 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: a not a net drag. So um, how bitcoin uses 316 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: otherwise waste energy? How does it use wasted energy? Well, 317 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. It's about supply and demand, right, It's 318 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: supplying the man. If there's more people using something than 319 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: there is, if there's more demand, then there is supply, 320 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: the price goes down, and vice diversia operates the other way. 321 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: You're by the way, you're listening to the Mark ma Show. 322 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, the decentral revolution, we're 323 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: talking specifically about China and Russia cracking down on it. 324 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Why and what the United States is saying that sounds 325 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: exactly like what Russia and China is saying, and I'm 326 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: proving why it's completely wrong. I'm gonna be back with more. 327 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: Don't go away, all right, welcome back. You're listening to 328 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: the Mark Moa Show, and we're talking about bitcoin and 329 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: cryptocurrencies and the decentralized revolution, and um, I'm talking about 330 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: what came out of Russia today and also has happening 331 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: in the United States. And they're both saying that we 332 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: need to shut down cryptocurrencies because we can't allow people 333 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: to move into them because it will undermine our financial 334 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: system be bad for the economy. The United States has 335 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: taken a little bit of a different tact and they're 336 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: saying that that, but they're also saying that it's it's 337 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: bad for the environment, and so bitcoins mining specifically is 338 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: bad for the environment, and so we need to be 339 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: able to shut it down. And uh, I'm drawing the 340 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I I drew. I'm past that, but I drew the 341 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: comparison that. Okay, it's one thing for China or Russia 342 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, coming from a communist country 343 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: that's centrally planned and controlled, but not from a free country, 344 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: not from a free market. It's pretty pretty crazy in 345 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: my opinion. But even more than that, even even even 346 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: arguing that supposedly we're in the land of the free 347 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be controlling that. Even worse than that, 348 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: their entire argument is wrong. It's all built off of 349 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: a false premise. And so the premise that bitcoin waste energy. 350 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: So um I was explaining how they said in in 351 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: which was two years ago, bitcoin would consume more energy 352 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: than the entire world, but that that didn't come to 353 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: that didn't come to pass. Like every other model the 354 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: government puts out, it's wrong and it actually uses less 355 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: than zero point one percent, uses less than a quarter 356 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: percent of one a quarter of one percent um. It's 357 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: a rounding era. But even more than that, all the 358 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: energy being used is actually energy that would otherwise not 359 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: have been used. So an example in California in the summer, 360 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: in in California, we have like a tiered electricity rate, 361 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: so the more you use, the more you pay, And 362 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: in the summer, at the top tier you're gonna pay 363 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: about forty cents per kilo one hour. But bitcoin miners 364 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: can't afford to pay forty cents per kilo one hour. Um, 365 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: they need less than five cents. Really, they need less 366 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: than three cents. So they can't compete here. So they're 367 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: not going to come set up in California and compete 368 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: for our energy and which is going to drive prices 369 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: up on me. They can't do it. So if it's 370 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: forty cents in California, how could they find three cent power, Well, 371 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: they'd have to go somewhere where it's being wasted, and 372 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: so um, they would move somewhere where they have extra 373 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: energies not being used. One of the areas that's being 374 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: done is all throughout um Texas and Oklahoma and North 375 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: Dakota in the in the Midwest, and they go where 376 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: there's oil coming out of the ground, and where there's 377 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: oil coming out of the ground, there's also natural gas. 378 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: The problem is that most of this oil is so 379 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: far so remote out in the middle of nowhere. The 380 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: natural gas, it's not economical to capture it, and so 381 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: it's being either vented or flared. Vented means they just 382 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: let it just escape in the system. Flare it means 383 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: they actually light it on fire and it kind of 384 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: burns into the system. Either one arguably isn't too good 385 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: for the environment to just be releasing that into the atmosphere. UM, 386 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: and a's and as a waste. Right, all that energy 387 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: is just being released and when it could be captured. 388 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: Per the U S Energy Information Administration, they said in 389 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: that Natural Gas Annual reports that one point for eight 390 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: billion cubic feet of natural gas was vented or flared 391 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: per day on average in the US. That's about a 392 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty terawatt hours of energy for the year, 393 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: which is higher than the estimated total peak level of 394 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: Bitcoin's annual energy usage. As a matter of fact, the 395 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: global flare gas recovery potential is eight times larger than 396 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the Bitcoin networks energy usage. So we need oil that's 397 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: not going away. Um, if you want your food delivered 398 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: to the store, and you want your Amazon packages delivered, 399 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: and you want to drive to work, we need oil. 400 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: You want to fly to go see your family, you 401 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: need oil that's not going away. And as natural gas 402 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: is just being vented or flared, it's being wasted, it's 403 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: not being captured, and it's maybe even harmful So what 404 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: bitcoin mining has done is gone and captured that collected 405 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: it so it's not being vented or flare anymore, and 406 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: then turning it into energy. So not only is it 407 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: using energy that would be wasted anyway, it's actually a 408 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: net gain because instead of being vented or flared into 409 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: the ecosystem, it's being captured and used. See it's not bad. 410 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: It's being used and they're not competing in New York 411 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: with houses and businesses or in California for energy. They're 412 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 1: going places where it would already be wasted. And not 413 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: only are they using wasted energy, they're actually helping the ecosystem. 414 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: But what else, So bitcoin mining is a grid battery. 415 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: So um, what, especially in California, what they want to 416 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: do is they want to move us to what they 417 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: call renewable energy, which is kind of a big joke. 418 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as renewable energy. Um, if I 419 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: need a windmill, a windmill lasts for twenty years and 420 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: I have to buy I have to build another windmill, 421 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that renewable. That just means it just 422 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: lasts a little bit longer. Same with solar panels. They 423 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: last about the same time. And they have to be replaced. 424 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: How renewable is that anyway? Um, But they really want 425 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: us to move to wind and solar. The problem with 426 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: wind and solar is their intermittent power sources, or I 427 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: like to call them unreliable, because it doesn't blow all 428 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: the time, and it doesn't the sun, it doesn't shine 429 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: all the time, and so what happens is um. Like 430 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: in Europe they're having these energy crisis is partly because 431 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: they had a very low wind year, which who would 432 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: have thought. Sometimes the wind changes, and so in order 433 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: for window solders to ever work at all, what they 434 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: have to do is they'd have to overproduce. So they'd say, um, 435 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't it's not as windy or sunny, so um, 436 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: if it's less windy or less sunny, we'll only get 437 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: less power. So we need to overproduce. We have to 438 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: build way more windmills or way more solar than we 439 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: would need. The problem is when it is windy and 440 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: when it is sunny, then it's producing more power than 441 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: is being used, right, so they have to over buy. 442 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: So what what bitcoin mining would could do is work 443 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: with those energy grids and so on days when it's 444 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: super sunny or days when it's really windy and they're 445 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: overproducing power in the homes in the area can't use 446 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: it all. The bitcoin miners can turn on and they 447 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: could use that energy. And when the when the wind 448 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: drops or the sun drops and they need more energy, 449 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: they just shut the bitcoin miners off. And so in 450 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: that way they can make wind and solar actually more 451 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: economical and could actually help us scale to more wind 452 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: and solar than without it. It can help that future 453 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: come without Without bitcoin mining, the other option would be 454 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: to build batteries to store all that. The problem with 455 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: that is the biggest battery factory in the world is 456 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: the gigawat factory by Tesla. It would take them five 457 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: thousand years to make enough batteries to store the energy 458 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: for the United States for one one single day. Five 459 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: thousand years to make enough batteries to store energy for 460 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: one single day. We probably need to store energy for 461 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: weeks in case we have bad weather for a few weeks, 462 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: and so you can understand it's theoretically impossible to make 463 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: enough storage for what we need. And so bitcoin is 464 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: a way that we could easily scale into wind and 465 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: solar if we still wanted to do that. We can 466 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: also see other things like, for example, UM new energy sources. 467 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: So for example, UM, there's a company that's oak Low 468 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: that's starting to make these little mini nuclear reactors and 469 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: they they want to launch these new little mini reactors. 470 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: But the problem is is that, UM, how do they 471 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: how do they launch that? How do they scale that? 472 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: And so they're going to have to go build a 473 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: a new little nuclear reactor, but in a in a 474 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: new area, but there may not be enough people to 475 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: use that energy that's being used at that time. And 476 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: so what they can do is they can hook up 477 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: bitcoin mining to use that power until there's enough homes 478 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: and businesses that come in to start using a lot 479 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: utilizing the power that's being made by that reactor, and 480 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: then the bitcoin miners can just pack up and move. 481 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Same thing in other countries. So you have other countries 482 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: that are bootstrapping and so UM. Part of the reason 483 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: why in the Congo or and uh, you know South 484 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: America they don't have big economy there is because there's 485 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: no good electric sources or power and so they could 486 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: tap into like a hydroelectric dam for example, but there's 487 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: no businesses or homes to use all that power, and 488 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: so there's no way for them to raise the money 489 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: to justify the costs. It's like a chicken or the 490 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: egg scenario. And so what they could do is they 491 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: could build that um that you know, that that power 492 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: plant power generation plant, hook up bitcoin mining, and automatically 493 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: start making money, which justifies the cost. Then as businesses 494 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: and cities are built around that new energy source and 495 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: it becomes competitive, the bitcoin mining can just pack up 496 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: and move somewhere else. And you see in that way, 497 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: one it's it's only using like zero point one percent 498 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: of the world's energy anyway, but it's only using energy 499 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: that's already being wasted or not being used. When I 500 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: say wasted, I mean wasted as not being used. Um, 501 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: not that it's a waste of somebody's time. Like um, 502 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: if I don't eat my leftovers and they go in 503 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: the trash, it was wasted food, right, it wasn't used. 504 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: But not only is it using such a small percentage 505 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: to rounding aerror, not only is it using such a 506 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: small percents rounding airror and it's not being used by 507 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: any other source, it's actually doing a net good because 508 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: it's helping clean up the environment. It's helping to scale 509 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: wind and solar, and it can help other countries scale 510 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: their own energy. So when you hear these regulators in 511 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: Congress talking about trying to take away the market's ability 512 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: to work on a free market, just know their entire 513 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: premise is faulty. Anyway, you're listening to the Mark Moa Show. 514 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: We're talking about bitcoin. We're talking about cryptocurrencies and the 515 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: decentralized revolution. We're talking about the land of the Free. Um, 516 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: I'll be right back with more. All right, welcome back. 517 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the markma Show, and we're talking about 518 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and the decentralized revolution. And I've been 519 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: talking about um, China banning cryptocurrencies and Russia bannon cryptocurrencies, 520 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: and today the United States talking about the same thing, 521 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: starting to sound like Russia. UM, I have confidence that 522 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. And uh, I think the 523 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: United States will continue to take the lead in this. 524 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: I think they'll continue to flourish. That's my hope. I 525 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: think you know right now we see um that you know, 526 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: President Biden was on the news this week talking about 527 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: dealing with Russia and the potential war going on. In 528 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: the Ukraine. Obviously tensions are high with China. Maybe, just maybe, UM, 529 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: the US might want to take the opposite position of 530 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: Russia and China and not the same. And uh, I 531 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: think it's in our economics interest. We've seen that when 532 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: China kicked out all the bitcoin mining, the United States 533 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: became the big beneficiary of that. Hundreds of billions of 534 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: dollars of economic activity have been brought to the United States. 535 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many. I'm sure tens of thousands, 536 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: of not hundreds thousands of jobs have been created. And 537 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: some other big news happened this week UM, and that 538 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: is that UM, in order to scale these bitcoin miners, 539 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: they take special computers and they use these chips inside 540 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: of them, these ASIC chips. And these chips have been 541 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: UM they're kind of specialty chips, and they've been manufactured 542 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: by who would who would you guess China. China has 543 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: been making these these chips. And so we have all 544 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: these UM American companies and Canadian companies and they're buying 545 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: all these Chinese chips. And we saw this week announcement 546 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: from Intel. Intel, which is is you know, makes most 547 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: of the chips for the PCs announced that they are 548 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: going to start building bitcoin mining chips, which is pretty 549 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: cool again, American, American free markets, American quality coming into 550 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: the space to continue to build this out UM, it says, 551 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: a market leader in computer computer chip manufacturing, Intel has 552 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: already secured at least one buyer for its upcoming bitcoin 553 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: mining chips, according to a statement filed with the U 554 00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: S Securities and Exchange Commission, and it says that they 555 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: have orders placed for UM before May, as the world's 556 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: biggest chip maker tiptoes into the industry. Now, remember when 557 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: we talk about um new technologies, we don't want to 558 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: focus on the short term price. As a matter of fact, 559 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: I haven't even talked about the price today, amazingly. We 560 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: want to focus on the growth of the network, and 561 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: we want to focus on the development on the network. Right, 562 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: So is the network growing, the amount of users, etcetera. 563 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: And is the development happening on the network growing as well? 564 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: And when you see a US company, the largest, the 565 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: world's biggest chip maker, decide to jump into the bitcoin 566 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: mining industry, it's a pretty big sign, right, instead of 567 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: just small little uh specialty people the no no, no, 568 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: no no. The world's biggest chip maker is now jumping 569 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: into the industry. If that doesn't legitimize what is going on, 570 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: then I don't know what does um. And though while 571 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: I know I was talking about, you know, some of 572 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: this um bitcoin mining coming under fire from the regulators, 573 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: I think most of the market is probably agreeing that 574 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: that's not really happening. Otherwise you wouldn't see companies like 575 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: Intel jumping in and spending so much money to do that. 576 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think a couple of things that I 577 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: think about in regards to this one. Obviously, we need 578 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: to bring jobs back, we need to bring money back, 579 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: We need to bring the economics back from China and 580 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: the rest of the world back into the United States. 581 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: So I love to see American companies jumping into that. 582 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Another thing that's kind of interesting. This article doesn't say 583 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: but this is just my own, my own thinking out 584 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: louds just that's all it is. Is not official. I'm 585 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: just thinking it's out loud. But in the bitcoin community, 586 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: we've seen the we've seen the entrance of of the military. 587 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: We've seen the entrance of specifically the Space Force, and uh, 588 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: the U. S. Space Force has gotten involved. And there's 589 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: one person UM that is is been making a lot 590 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: of noise in the space and um, he says he's 591 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: been specifically put there in M I T and in 592 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: the bitcoin space to figure out what is in the 593 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: nation's best security interest in regard to bitcoin. And he's 594 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: been suggesting that it's in the US is security interest 595 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: if they were to start mining bitcoin. And he's been 596 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: angling something called the hash wars, and the hash wars 597 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: are a computer, so a bitcoin mining computer, if you 598 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: hook it to the network, you secure the network by 599 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: one by an electricity and two running the computer and 600 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: it generates hashes, and those hashes is what secures the network. 601 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: And he says that he thinks it's in the nations 602 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: the U S nation's best security if they were to 603 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: get a lead, get a headstart on on the bitcoin mining. 604 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: And that's what he's kind of been encouraging and pushing. 605 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: But how can the US military jump in and start 606 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: mining starting into the hash war, Um, if they if 607 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: we don't have US equipment right, they can't do that. 608 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: And so it's interesting and again this is just my 609 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: thinking out loud, but I've been watching this develop over 610 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: the last six months or a year, and uh, you know, 611 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: he's been pushing for this, and and he's a low 612 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: level ranking person. I mean, um, so he's not obviously 613 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: we don't we don't see uh general is talking about 614 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: this or whatnot. But just kind of like I said, 615 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: thinking out loud, Um, he's thinking about it, which means 616 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: people above him are thinking about it. And Um, the 617 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: US can't really do that, but now maybe they can 618 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: if we have a US company making the bitcoin mining chips. 619 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Obviously the military can make them on their own, but 620 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: they typically you know, form those contracts out. And so 621 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: now if we have a US company making those chips, 622 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe that changes something. So I don't know, something to watch, um, 623 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: something cool to think about. Um. And then I guess 624 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: another big thing that I saw this week that was 625 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: kind of making sense is that again thinking about things 626 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: in terms of both UM user adoption as well as 627 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: growth on the network. One thing that's been really I've 628 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: been watching is what's happening down in l Salvador. If 629 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: you don't know, El Salvador made bitcoin legal tender, meaning 630 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: it's as good as any other money, or it's their 631 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: legal money and government money. As a matter of fact, 632 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: I've been working with the people down El Salvadoor. Have 633 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: been down there a few times, and you can basically 634 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: go buy anything anywhere in El Salvador, Starbucks or McDonald's 635 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: with bitcoin. And so that's done a lot for user adoption. 636 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: Millions of people have come online and it's amazing and 637 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: and uh, if you're an American and you haven't really 638 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: traveled down there, you maybe don't grasp this. But most 639 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: people in El Salvadoor don't have bank accounts. And they 640 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: don't have bank accounts because they can't afford them. They 641 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: don't really have access to them. And if you don't 642 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: have a bank account, with a mobile phone, with a smartphone, 643 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: you're you're pretty much equal. You could learn anyone anything, 644 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: meet anyone, do anything on a phone, right, So the 645 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: phone is kind of the great equalizer if you have Internet, 646 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: but not if you can't join the global financial system. 647 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: So you know, a kid could start a Instagram account, 648 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: make a Hunter grand no problem today, but not if 649 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: you can't join the global financial system. You have to 650 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: have access to finance system, and most El Salvadoor and 651 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: people don't have that um and most merchants don't either, 652 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: And so bitcoin has fixed a massive, massive problem for them, 653 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people the US don't 654 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: understand why there's any value to bitcoin, but the people 655 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: in El salvadore A certainly do. And what we've seen 656 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: continuing to develop down there. Big news this week I 657 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: thought was pretty cool was El Salvadore now is is 658 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: looking to back low interest rate loans that are backed 659 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: by bitcoin for micro and small businesses across the country. 660 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: So the way that a country grows is through their 661 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: gross domestic product, and the way they do that is 662 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: by businesses starting up. You need businesses, you need people working, 663 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: you need to produce goods and services. The US doesn't 664 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: understand that they've shipped all their jobs offshore. But El 665 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: Savadore wants to start a program to give micro loans 666 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: to businesses. Increased businesses, increase employment, generating new goods and 667 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: services and so right now, because the banking system doesn't 668 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: really work down there, um, they don't have this. Also, 669 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Al Salvador has roughly one point two million businesses in 670 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: the country, roughly sixty or micro businesses or subsistence businesses. 671 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: Over micro businesses are self funded via informal loans or 672 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: loan sharks. Okay, so that's what they have to do 673 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: for money. Um, they may pay as much as fifteen 674 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: dollars a day for a hundred dollar loan, which make 675 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: annual interest rates over ten thousand per cent. So how 676 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: can a business grow if it doesn't have any capital, 677 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: has no access to money, and any money it gets, 678 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to pay ten tho percent interest. Businesses 679 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: can't make that. They can't and so they want to 680 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: be able to give bitcoin backed loans. Again, they don't 681 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: have access to banking, they don't have access to the the 682 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: capital credit, and now they do with bitcoin. And now 683 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: they're going to scale out bitcoin loans, which will then 684 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: scale out the businesses and really increase the economic activity 685 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: of what else Salvador is doing. It's amazing. I love 686 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: to see it. I'm super encouraged by it. You're listening 687 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: to the Mark My show. We're talking about bitcoin and 688 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: cryptocurrencies and the decentralized revolution. Covered a lot of the 689 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: hottest news stories of the week. Hopefully you didn't miss out. 690 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: If you did, you can check me out on the 691 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: I Heart podcast network and catch up on that. Uh 692 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: so much going on every every week. I love being 693 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: with you. Don't miss it. Thanks for listening,