1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: nor with you, Professor slim King back with us. A parent, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: normal researcher for really the majority of his life, Professor 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: has designed mental illusions for dozens of professional magicians, including 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: David Copperfield. He's a proud recipient of both the Merlin 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: and Houdini Awards and Radio Magic, and claims to be 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the world's foremost authority on Houdini's life after death. He 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: has written about the terat pendulums, numerology, palmistry, as well 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: as dreams and omens. And here he is back on 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast. Professor always a pleasure. It's great to 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: be back on this show. I love this show. Well, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: we love you. Have you been. I've been really good. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: It's in a great year for me. And I've just 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: got to say that, like Lisa Lyon and Stephanie Smith, 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: members of your staff, they are top notch. I mean, 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I've been on a lot of shows before and they 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: probably know more about radio than they probably forgot more 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: than I am so blessed I've had them for going 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: on eighteen years and it's just remarkable. Yes, they are 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: very very good. So it's the delight to work with 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: those gals and so fun to be on your show. 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't Halloween one of Harry Houdini's favorite times? Yes, Oh 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: he loved Halloween. And it's kind of fitting that he 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: died on Halloween. And what all the spirits are everywhere 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: and turn around and so that's why they have all 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: these Harry Hoodony biances coming up this next couple of weeks. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Did he die in my hometown to Detroit, Professor? I 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: think so, I do too. I think that's where he 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: got smacked in the stomach or something. He busted his appendix. 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Is that what happened to him? Yeah, he was hit 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: in the stomach and actually buy a spiritualist. And this 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: was about ten days before he died, so he would 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: in the hospital about three days later. This Harry Peney 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: was really strong person. It took him about a week 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: to die in the hospital. So I think today is 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: like the anniversary of the day he went in. And 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: that's where they finalize the code, the Deani code with 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: his wife Beth. That was so amazing when Arthur Ford 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: came up with that in nineteen twenty nine. What's your 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: take on Halloween. I mean, everybody celebrates it all over 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: the planet, don't they. I think Halloween is about the 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: biggest It's bigger worldwide than any other holiday. If you 44 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of combine all the different holidays from the different 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: from like China and Japan, they all have a version 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: of Halloween, and they all come. Most of them are 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: in the fall and write about the end of October 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: in the beginning of November, professor, Is it one of 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: those pagan rituals, Halloween, Well, it's combination. The Catholic Church 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: kind of had of a thing where they would adapt 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: pagan ritual or something into the Catholic Church, kind of 52 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: bring in the sheep or whatever, however you're gonna look 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: at it. And so they started All Saints Day, which 54 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: was November first, and All Souls Day November second, and 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: that coincided with some Celtic you know, pagan rituals around 56 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: the same time. Everybody has their own kind of a 57 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Day of the Dead, the Dia de los Muertos, the 58 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: Day of the Day South America Spanish things, so people celebrate, uh, 59 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, the death of people and that their life 60 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: or some existence goes on. Are any of the celebrations 61 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: evil or dangerous? Well, that depends on who you're talking to, 62 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: but some are very, very very dangerous. If you're digging 63 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: up dead bodies, I don't know if that's the most 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: sanitary thing. And some of these, like in Malaysia, they 65 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: dig up the body and rearrange the bones and repackage 66 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: the person, have like a picnic with them, and then 67 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: put them back in the ground. How long had that 68 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: person been dead? When they do this, they do it 69 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: annually until the person's totally decomposed. Oh my god. So 70 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: and then there's a big controversy because they have a 71 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: an old fashioned plague in some of those areas, and 72 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: it's because of this practice. Some medical doctors don't agree, 73 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: but it seems fair to me that maybe that might 74 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: be dangerous. You're kind of an expert in dealing with 75 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: communicating with the other side. How did you get involved 76 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: in that? Well, I've been studying that and what bowl 77 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: of how they do it. Of course, this anything really 78 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: got me excited because he was able to contact to 79 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: Deanie our ford was and and then since our show 80 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: last year, my father passed away. Oh I'm sorry to 81 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: hear that. Yes, and he and I were like, he 82 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: was my best friend. My father was my best friend. 83 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: We did a lot of things together and although he 84 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: lived about twenty five hundred miles away, we spoke on 85 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: the phone two three times a week, and politically and 86 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: anything else we lined up. So we're very, very very close. 87 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: So communicating with him, and I wondered about this when 88 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: he was starting to fail and get weaker. Could I 89 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: communicate after he passed away? And I think a lot 90 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: of people want to know, you know what's going on, 91 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what happens after they die. Sure, And so 92 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: that really got me since our last call, and so 93 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I started checking out. And I knew Jeanette Ucas, who 94 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: you had on last week, and Jeanette kind of showed 95 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: me how to how to sleep and how to incubate 96 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: in your dreams and initiate this contact. And so I 97 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: started started trying and it flat out worked. It worked 98 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: for me and my father, and it worked for my 99 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: best friend, my cousin. Share some of those techniques with 100 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: us A professor, Well, I meditate before I go to 101 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: bed and pray or if you believe in a divine 102 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: some kind of Creator or something. I asked that that 103 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: in my subconscious I believe the subconscious is the gateway 104 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: to the spiritual world. That they speak to us through 105 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: dreams and visions, and when you're in a trance or 106 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: if you're asleep and you're unconscious, that's how they communicate. 107 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: So I just asked, you know, the Supreme Being or whatever, 108 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: if they would allow that to happen while I sleep, 109 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: then I drink about. I drink about as much water 110 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: as I can hold. I drink look about a half 111 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: gallon of water. That's a lot of water. That's a 112 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: lot of water. And guess what that makes you do? Yeah, 113 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: you get up enough? Right, you wake up at two 114 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. You got right, You got to 115 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: go to the men's room. And but the good part 116 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: is you remember what you were dreaming about. Is that 117 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: why you do it? Yes? And that's kind of you 118 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: to wake up. The secrets that Jeanette taught me, And 119 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: so I began doing that and i'd wake up and 120 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: then you can keep a dream log. I just try 121 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: to remember what happened. And so I get up and 122 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: I remember what was going on. And these dreams are 123 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: extremely vivid and uh, you know, I got on Facebook 124 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: and I asked all my friends. I got a couple 125 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: of thousand friends and I got literally dozens, over one 126 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: hundred people say that they see their relatives in their dreams. 127 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I would believe that we get a lot of phone 128 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: calls from people who have seen their relatives, or they 129 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: come or they even The weird stuff is they get 130 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: calls on the telephone and you know, they have a 131 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: caller ID. The phone number may say zero zero zero 132 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: zero zero or something like that. That's strange too, you know, 133 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: I have and I always call him Uncle Otto. His 134 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: name is Otto Konig Koenig in Germany, and since the 135 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: sixties and now he's done itc work, he's done this, 136 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, electronic communication, that's the other side. But he's 137 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: German and everything was published in German and sometimes French, 138 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: but um and just this last year they translated one 139 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: of his books and it's called Listen, and it's about 140 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: using electronics talk to people on the other side. And 141 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: he's his lasers and all kinds of stuff. He's kind 142 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: of a scientist guy. He'll try anything just out of 143 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: the box. Thinker Otto Konig and my relatives are all 144 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: nat Konig. So there was an original device called the 145 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: Spirit Calm that was developed years and years ago, and 146 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that was a device that they claimed was used to 147 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: talk to the dead. It's it's interesting, but you know, 148 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: if you believe everything is energy, then there's that possibility 149 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: that you can communicate with the other side that way. Yes, yes, 150 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: energy is not created or lost, It goes somewhere. And 151 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: that's why I think your personality survive the imprint of 152 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: our personality survives and in another state. 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