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Speaker 1: Hey, this is this is our own Welcome.

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Speaker 2: To the Philly Show.

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Speaker 3: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky It's a

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Speaker 3: Philly Show. It's Wednesday, June eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Rubin

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Speaker 1: There's still still summon Todd's trunk.

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Speaker 4: We'll bring in some more merchandise. It's coming. We're getting

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Speaker 4: some pretty cool stuff. So keep your eyes out and peeled.

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Speaker 1: Get it while it's hot. Baby, got some lids.

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Speaker 4: We got some new shirts, maybe a hoodie or two.

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Speaker 2: You know, little We're trying to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: You know you're not any Mudandie's.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what that was.

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Speaker 1: Do you even know what Mudandie? Is?

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Speaker 4: That underwear or something? It is a whack job.

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Speaker 1: You get a weird mood today, man, I love better,

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Speaker 1: bring it better, bring it Yeah, where does this stuff come.

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Speaker 2: Out of your mouth? Oh my god, what a way

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Speaker 2: to open the show.

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Speaker 1: That's first pitch broke you by Park. Yeah. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that in a bit.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, so funny.

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Speaker 3: Last Tuesday Night, the Phillies lose to the Marlins eight three.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a snoozer. They won the series opener on Monday,

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Speaker 3: so they still have a chance to win the series

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Speaker 3: with the with the victory tonight Wednesday night, it's ranger.

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Speaker 4: They also it's a four game series, isn't it right?

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Speaker 2: Is it is a four game series?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they need to win the night if they

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Speaker 3: want to take three out of four against the lowly Marlins. Man,

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Speaker 3: what a I don't mind that ballpark, but it's always

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Speaker 3: just kind of a sad place.

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Speaker 2: To see in regards to the atmosphere, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: I would love to see it open more, but you

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Speaker 4: just can't with it. You know. It's just unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: It would be it would be it gets so much

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Speaker 5: nice or when it when it's opened up, But it's

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Speaker 5: such a downer.

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Speaker 4: And I've talked about it.

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Speaker 5: I talked about it in the post game when on

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Speaker 5: NBC and and and other times where they sort of

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Speaker 5: have to make their own energy there. Man, there's ten

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Speaker 5: thousand people in the ballpark that if that and so

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Speaker 5: and so. You know, and you know, probably six thousand

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Speaker 5: of those people are Phillise fans, right or four thousand

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Speaker 5: or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But it's just so dead in there. Man, it's like

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Speaker 4: a it's like a morgue.

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Speaker 1: It is a nice, nice ballpark too. I like the ballpark.

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Speaker 1: I mean I wish they would lift it up, like

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Speaker 1: with a helicopter and move it to Montreal. That ballpark,

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Speaker 1: drop it right, drop it right right on Peel Street.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love nice work. Yea.

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Speaker 2: I would love to go back to Montreal.

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Speaker 4: You're you're you're a wordsmith man, Dona.

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Speaker 3: The ballpark was The ballpark was so empty last night.

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Speaker 3: I know how much you guys caught this, this little

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Speaker 3: snippet of the broadcast. But a fan somewhere in the ballpark,

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Speaker 3: the quite empty ballpark, yelled free Castianos.

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Speaker 1: Really yes.

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Speaker 3: And that brings us to the park's first pitch. First

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Speaker 3: pitch by Parks, our partners and friends at Parks Casino,

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Speaker 3: right off of I ninety five and State Road. Guys,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna set the scene for you Monday night. The

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Speaker 3: Phillies are leading three to one going into the bottom

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Speaker 3: Castiano's taken out of the game for defensive purposes now

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Speaker 3: comes out. On Tuesday afternoon, before the game, Nick Castianos

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Speaker 3: made some quote inappropriate remarks to Phillies manager Rob Thompson.

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Speaker 3: So Rob Thompson benches Nick Castianos onto Tuesday for those

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Speaker 3: After agetting being benched for defensive purposes.

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Speaker 3: Before the game on Tuesday said, I wasn't happy about it.

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Speaker 3: Spoke my mind. He said, I crossed the line. So

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Speaker 3: Interesting stuff from a team that has not had a

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Speaker 3: You know, guys get upset here and there with different things.

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Speaker 4: Am I right, go ahead, Jimmy hit it.

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Speaker 1: No, It's the first instance I can remember him having

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Speaker 1: last year that was pretty public in the postseason, benched

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Speaker 1: him question to his energy, So I think that was

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Speaker 1: pretty significant. And this is, you know, right up there

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Speaker 1: the postseason is pretty intense, but you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: Nick's hometown. He had the streak. And then obviously Nick

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Speaker 1: reacted emotionally in the dugout in front of people, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you're the manager of the team.

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Speaker 1: You can't let something like that slide or everybody's going

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Speaker 1: to start pulling it on you. So I think Rob

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Speaker 1: did the right thing. You can't disrespect the manager like

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Speaker 1: that and without there being a consequence, and there was

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Speaker 1: a consequence, and I think baseball wise, it was a

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Speaker 1: it was a text book sound move correct. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at the defensive metrics, I mean on Fangrass,

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Speaker 1: Castanos is a minus ten and defensive run saved it's

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Speaker 1: like last among regular outfielders in Major League Baseball. And

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Speaker 1: I think there was some recency in in Rob's mind

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Speaker 1: because if you go back to last Wednesday, they beat

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Speaker 1: got back and pitched really well, ten strikeout snow walks.

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Speaker 1: There were two balls hit the right field that were

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Speaker 1: playable that were not caught, and rob was asked about

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Speaker 1: that they were both playable. Both. You know, he said

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Speaker 1: but you know, he didn't. He didn't just sweep them

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Speaker 1: both should have been caught. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: he employed the strategic move. That's his job to put

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Speaker 1: during the game, and that is the card he played,

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Speaker 5: So this is interesting because on Sunday and I was

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Speaker 5: doing the post game, the same situation came up. He

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Speaker 5: and I said to myself, Okay, I got to believe

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Speaker 5: And I thought to myself, sometimes he doesn't do that

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Speaker 5: on Monday, I absolutely think that's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 5: They have one average to above average everyday defensive outfielder,

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Speaker 5: and that's Max Kepler. He's the only guy who is

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Speaker 5: got a ball caught up in the lights yesterday and

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Speaker 5: I'm sure that sucked for everybody because he couldn't make

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Speaker 5: he makes that play every single time if the ball

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Speaker 5: I've done it. It's the worst feeling in the world

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Speaker 5: when he can't see the baseball and he just took

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Speaker 5: it off his body. I have to say that the

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Speaker 5: to over a two run lead or over a one

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Speaker 4: That's what you do. That's what you do as a manager.

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Speaker 5: You put your best defensive team out there, as Jim

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Speaker 5: set And no disrespect to Casianos because the balls I

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Speaker 5: sort of liken him to to burrow as far as

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Speaker 5: he catches it, but he doesn't have the range and

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Speaker 5: the overall foot speed that other people have. Marsh Kepler

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Speaker 4: Hey put the average, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, centerfielder in center field and make yourself defensively better

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Speaker 4: And you know, Rob's one of those guys that you.

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Speaker 5: Know typically communicates all this stuff to the players and

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Speaker 5: So it should have been much of a surprise to

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Speaker 5: He probably had to disrespect to me a whole lot

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Speaker 5: Because Rob Thompson is not like a He's not a

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Speaker 5: at some point you have a breaking point and you

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Speaker 5: can't be embarrassed by your players. And uh, what he

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Speaker 4: Out of the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in this day and age, you don't go into

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Speaker 5: Because I bet whatever he said to him, Rob Thomson

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Speaker 4: I bet I'm sure he wanted to fight him.

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Speaker 5: Because I mean, I again, I have no idea, but

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Speaker 5: that's that's what the what the I mean? Rob Thompson

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Speaker 5: doesn't make those kind of moves unless something that was

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Speaker 5: said that was disrespectful. I also understand on Casianos side, Hey,

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Speaker 5: I want to play. You know, I don't have any

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Speaker 5: problem with the guy wanting to play. But you also

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Speaker 5: there's a level and there's a place time and a

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Speaker 5: place for things. And if he had was displeased with

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Speaker 5: what happened after the game, you have a chat with

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rob used the word inappropriate, you know comment it

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Speaker 3: was it had to have been. It wasn't g Rob.

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Speaker 3: I really think that's a dumb decision on your part.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's put that out there, right. Yeah, Rob,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, buddy, I really think I should

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that.

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Speaker 4: At all.

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Speaker 1: I've known that. All of that deserves a lot of respect.

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Speaker 2: So go ahead, rubin.

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Speaker 5: No, it's just like a picture who gets pissed off

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Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people are probably wondering,

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Speaker 2: You know, clubhouse issue? What do you guys?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's impossible to sell, like I think, Jim,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I will tell you this. They needed

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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't fester. Thompson's pretty good at handling

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Speaker 5: So I've gotten to Oe Rob Thompson quite a bit,

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Speaker 5: He's really passionate about the game of baseball, and he's

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Speaker 4: But he's also very respectful of the players, and I

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Canada, Rubin, another year has passed without

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Speaker 4: Screw it.

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Speaker 3: Philly's won on Monday night, Guys, Ryan kirkeran got the

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 3: Jim, you got about twenty one saves a go and

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Speaker 5: Oh he might finish it all.

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Speaker 5: It's a really good spider. It's a big, strong one,

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Speaker 5: and uh sinker. Uh, that sinker is big for him

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Speaker 5: because you can run it in on the on the

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Speaker 5: right hander, so they can't hang out over the plate

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Speaker 5: on that breaking ball.

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Speaker 3: Last last sixteen appearances for Ryan kirk ring.

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Speaker 2: On run, no no runs, last zero earned runs. In

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Speaker 5: He's giving up a couple of inherited run Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: two in that frame right.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen strikeouts, seven walks, nine hits aloud.

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Speaker 2: So you know, hey, they.

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Speaker 3: Need to they need to figure out the bullpens. So

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Speaker 1: Because so I was watching Lozardo last night and his

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Speaker 1: But everything was up last night. His stuff was good,

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Speaker 1: but hey, three of the last four have not been good,

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Speaker 1: extenuating circumstances in those two. But you know, last night,

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Speaker 1: he just he didn't have a quality outing against a team. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: he should have man handled too many walks, especially those

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Speaker 1: two walks in the sixth inning. Now you hand it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of a dud. He did not

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if he gots piped up because

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Speaker 4: He's been had a pretty good year for.

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Speaker 5: You know, and done a pretty decent job, did not

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Speaker 4: And then they went to.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't understand it.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, they didn't. They played a little bit of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, talking about castianos and last night's game.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can always it's a good time to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does, you know.

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Speaker 1: Todd my first year covering the team, they were in

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Speaker 1: It was blue for day games, and they wore them

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Speaker 3: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Actually it was funny.

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Speaker 3: I think Matt Buren also wrote a story on that

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Speaker 1: They annihilated them.

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Speaker 5: That's when they didn't realize how much money they were

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Speaker 3: Please, well this is a dumb question, but Ruben, did

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Speaker 3: they even have did they have like BP caps back then,

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Speaker 3: like when you were playing, like.

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Speaker 5: We didn't have VP caps. In fact, we had to

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Speaker 5: It's very very limited. They've opened things up quite considerably,

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Speaker 5: Used to be like once the once the gates were open,

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Speaker 5: you had to wear a certain type of you know,

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Speaker 4: Otherwise you got fined.

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Speaker 5: I used to you know, you had a chance to

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Speaker 5: That's changed pretty dramatically now because of the merchandising thing.

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Speaker 1: And then on force anything anymore because they want to

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Speaker 1: last night I was watching the Marlins reliever. He had

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Speaker 4: Know, I would have Jim is a big asked him

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Speaker 5: Anything that's white on a picture, I would absolutely take

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Speaker 4: You can't wear white glove or a light.

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Speaker 5: Gray one because it looks too much like the baseball

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Speaker 5: and it's just distracting.

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Speaker 4: Same thing with the belt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't I don't get it, but whatever,

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Speaker 5: let the kids play.

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Speaker 3: Well, It's it's funny because now you think aback. Now,

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Speaker 3: the Mets. Mets have lost the Metropolitans.

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Speaker 4: They're struggling, just like every other team. Abs and flows.

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Speaker 3: Baby, it happens, it happens.

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Speaker 4: Tell you Jim.

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