Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast as a very freaky post
Speaker 1: super Bowl tradition. Welcome and you'll never know what it
Speaker 1: is to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan hands As I come to you
Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Reg Rosenthal and boys. You know this is big, This
Speaker 1: is big big boy pants stuff, this is big leagues.
Speaker 1: Joining us a very special guest, um taking a break
Speaker 1: from being on literally every single show over in Bristol.
Speaker 1: It's the great borderline iconic Mina Kimes, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the A t N Podcast. Me and how you doing?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, it's been about a year. I guess
Speaker 1: one more than a year, because um, we did a
Speaker 1: podcast in person, so it must have been pretty pandemic.
Speaker 1: You brought us treats. I recall you had been to um,
Speaker 1: some sort of favorite grocery store of yours, and you
Speaker 1: brought us some train gets, some treats, you know, in
Speaker 1: a live studio setting. How it happened? What happeny? They
Speaker 1: were hip hop snacks. But it wasn't a favorite grocery store.
Speaker 1: It was a convenience store that I bought the treats
Speaker 1: app because I had to throw up in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I know if you guys remember, yeah, do you remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You did come on the pandemic. Um. I think it
Speaker 1: was Clayvon and Colleen was in the mix and we
Speaker 1: had no agenda. It was the most formless podcast that was.
Speaker 1: That was me in his Flue Game Flu podcast. Not
Speaker 1: not my finest hour, that's for sure, yea. Um, so
Speaker 1: happy to have you here, Mina, And we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a great show today. Um. Coming up later on, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take you inside the minds the minds of various
Speaker 1: NFL figures and let you understand what's going on in
Speaker 1: their inner thoughts, the inner monologue, the stuff that you
Speaker 1: don't want you to hear. They don't want their teammates
Speaker 1: to hear, they don't want the media to hear. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear. And that's pretty good. Um. But before
Speaker 1: we get to that, I mean, I wanted to touch
Speaker 1: base quickly with you on something based off our last podcast.
Speaker 1: We have, like a a conversation I really enjoyed, which
Speaker 1: was what does it mean to be a fan? How
Speaker 1: important is it to win a championship? Do fans put
Speaker 1: too much value on titles when we should be more
Speaker 1: appreciative of teams who routinely put together fun, competitive seasons.
Speaker 1: Gregg was coming from this angle. We were talking about
Speaker 1: the Falcons and what they could be doing this season.
Speaker 1: Um And I think you're the perfect person to ask
Speaker 1: this question me because you're a die hard Seahawks fan.
Speaker 1: You got to enjoy the Super Bowl forty eight win.
Speaker 1: You've mixed in plenty of heartbreak and disappointment in the
Speaker 1: years before and after. You're also a massive Seattle Mariners fan,
Speaker 1: a franchise that has never won a World Series in
Speaker 1: forty five years. In fact, they're the only team in
Speaker 1: MLB and I don't I'm not telling. I'm not breaking
Speaker 1: news to me and the kids here, the only team
Speaker 1: in LB MLB without so much as a World Series
Speaker 1: appearance in their history. Um So, I think winning a
Speaker 1: title in Mark kind of agreed with my feeling on
Speaker 1: it is a point of Catharsis that fans need to
Speaker 1: kind of let you know that it was all worth something.
Speaker 1: Where do you come down on this, because I feel
Speaker 1: like you're qualified uniquely on some level. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: for that. Mariner's Recap just barely enjoyed that yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we're batting one, so that's does everybody else? Yeah? True, true,
Speaker 1: but the Mariners were no hit like twice in one week.
Speaker 1: The Worth people always trying to talk trash to me
Speaker 1: on Twitter about the Mariners, and I'm like, you really
Speaker 1: think I feel anything? Would you say this to me? Um?
Speaker 1: I actually think the cs are a good advantage point
Speaker 1: for the question you raised, which is the importance of
Speaker 1: winning a championship competing versus ripping it all up and
Speaker 1: illustrative about illustrative of how in football the timelines and
Speaker 1: steaks and realities of that are different from other sports. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, in basketball, I think you really have to
Speaker 1: have X y Z in place to compete. Where us
Speaker 1: When earlier this summer, when they were summer spring, when
Speaker 1: there were a lot of rumors about Russell Wilson, Um,
Speaker 1: there was a strain of thought, Well, the Seahawks aren't
Speaker 1: gonna win a Super Bowl anyways, uh so why not
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson, maximize his return, rip it up and
Speaker 1: start over, to which I said, yeah, there's no the
Speaker 1: Seahawks are not one of the five best rosters in football,
Speaker 1: but it's football. They might win. Like I don't like
Speaker 1: who's to say, right, like, we can't. It's far more unpredictable.
Speaker 1: With the single elimination playoffs, it's far more likely that
Speaker 1: weird could happen. You can get that Nick Foles Flacco
Speaker 1: run and I believe if you have And this is
Speaker 1: this is my very long winded path towards your question.
Speaker 1: If you have a quarterback who's good, you should just
Speaker 1: always try to wait. I think, um, if you don't,
Speaker 1: that's where it gets a little more complicated. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's not like I wasn't saying you're not gonna get Catharsis, like,
Speaker 1: of course it's always gonna be nice. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: ultimately that's not going to be your only You're gonna
Speaker 1: get more value out of the journey and everything else
Speaker 1: or else, like what are you doing, Like you're still
Speaker 1: talking about the Rex Ryan uh days Dan and how
Speaker 1: much you enjoyed it, or like if if you can't
Speaker 1: have fun with teams that don't win the title, then
Speaker 1: you're never gonna have any fun. But my argument is
Speaker 1: that it's like a rich person, Greg's a Patriots fans
Speaker 1: telling people with no money it's great to experience poverty.
Speaker 1: It's good for you, and it's there's something to learn
Speaker 1: from it. Like you're talking to a Seahawks fan who heart,
Speaker 1: whose heart was broken by the Patriots. Your example previously
Speaker 1: was the Falcons who were destroyed um astronomically by the Patriots.
Speaker 1: So the point was they had you had, Michael Vick,
Speaker 1: You've had some good times. I guess what I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: like a title, it's not going to take away the
Speaker 1: emptiness that's inside you like you think it will. But
Speaker 1: after like a couple of weeks, you're just kind of
Speaker 1: back to the sad page if you pull it back
Speaker 1: above the tree tops. I think the reason, I guess,
Speaker 1: do I talk about the Rex Rant Jets all time?
Speaker 1: Maybe I do. That's all I got. I'm like with
Speaker 1: the earners, I've never even seen my team in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Uh. And you know, I think competitive teams
Speaker 1: it's a little ephemeral, whereas flags fly forever. I actually
Speaker 1: believe that you have that forever. You have the DVD,
Speaker 1: you have the memories all that. Anyway, good May twenty
Speaker 1: talking point in a big spot. All right, let's do
Speaker 1: some news is going to be angels. I don't get
Speaker 1: enough of this on ESPN platform this, Yes, that is
Speaker 1: it annoying that he's like the best player in the
Speaker 1: you immediately I disproved. I now look like a total
Speaker 1: liar because less than five minutes ago I was I said,
Speaker 1: you can't hurt me as a merass fan, I feel nothing,
Speaker 1: and there I am being hurt all over again live
Speaker 1: like when he he decided where he was going. Yes,
Speaker 1: so we're that weren't on TV. We're in a commercial break,
Speaker 1: but the generous around the horn producers decided to share
Speaker 1: that with the world. Yeah, and it's had a lasting effect.
Speaker 1: Is I was like, oh, yeah, that'd be kind of
Speaker 1: connect to what we're talking about the top of the show,
Speaker 1: and sure enough it was on YouTube on like fourteen
Speaker 1: different easy enough to find. The Mariners are a good
Speaker 1: example by a team that should have ripped it up early.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it, but the central
Speaker 1: question is should you rip it up or try to
Speaker 1: compete right in every sport And this is something that
Speaker 1: is a matter of debate amongst many teams, and I
Speaker 1: think the Mariners should have ripped it up earlier and
Speaker 1: done the rebuild and gone full of astros slash cubs
Speaker 1: slash whatever, and they're doing it now, and there's some
Speaker 1: NFL teams that might be doing that now as well.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. Let's start with Bruce Arians.
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians on top of the world Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: coach six years old. Now, um, there was a report
Speaker 1: right around the Super Bowl that if if the Bucks
Speaker 1: won the big Game, which they did, that he would
Speaker 1: maybe walk into the sunset. No way. Arion's is a lifer,
Speaker 1: and he spoke on the Pewter Report, a type of
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers podcast, about the idea of how he sees
Speaker 1: kind of the back nine of his career going one
Speaker 1: that might not include Tom Brady. Here's what Arian's had
Speaker 1: to say. I could, I could get extremely excited about
Speaker 1: have another young quarterback and going to war with one. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'd be I'll be honest with you, I'd be excited
Speaker 1: to take Blaine Gabbert go to war because I love
Speaker 1: I think he's the most underrated player in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert's listening and being like pay me. You're like,
Speaker 1: let me be a free agent for a month and
Speaker 1: gave me three billion dollars. Pay me. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: such like Gabbert, Uh defense and standing since m j
Speaker 1: D would just tirelessly. Uh try to tell me that
Speaker 1: he was like a diamond in the rough that was
Speaker 1: just given a bad hand in life, and he's got
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians agreen with him. I don't believe this for
Speaker 1: a second really though, either. I feel like Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: if they had a bad season with Tampa and it
Speaker 1: wasn't fun, you know, he would just as easy walk away.
Speaker 1: Of course, like right now he's having fun and it
Speaker 1: sounds like he would want to play forever. But he
Speaker 1: or a coach forever. But he he left pretty quickly
Speaker 1: last time and seemed about done at that point. So
Speaker 1: the one thing I note though, is that you know,
Speaker 1: Arians was tied to Gabbert in Arizona too, and he
Speaker 1: I went went back and look at some quotes from
Speaker 1: seen and he gushed about Gabbert as a future starter.
Speaker 1: And so maybe there's just some of these coaches have
Speaker 1: these traits that they love. One time I talked to
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians also like the Browns fan of me about
Speaker 1: Kelly Holcomb, who was for about a season and a
Speaker 1: half incredible for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, Arians just
Speaker 1: gushed about him for like ten straight minutes. It was
Speaker 1: like too much I could put into the article. So
Speaker 1: I think he just finds these dudes and falls in love,
Speaker 1: do you think? And of course Gabbert was a first
Speaker 1: round pick and a bust with the Jaguars, and like
Speaker 1: there's a speaking of baseballer's that saying the old scouting community,
Speaker 1: Oh he's got a good face, and they actually put
Speaker 1: stock in someone being good looking. Gabbert's a very handsome man,
Speaker 1: do you think? And he looks the part obviously. I
Speaker 1: think he was even in draft day. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he's pretty athletic, like he checks the boxes. Like
Speaker 1: do you think the way do you think the way
Speaker 1: that Blaine Gabert looks makes certain coaches say this guy
Speaker 1: everything makes sense here, I could fix him. He looks
Speaker 1: like a star like moneyball thing. Um, well, I'll say
Speaker 1: this about Blaine Gabbert. He looks like someone named Blaine Gabbert,
Speaker 1: like completely, like if you had to visualize a guy
Speaker 1: named Blaine Gabberty would look exactly like I was. But um,
Speaker 1: your point mark about the arians type if you will.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that during the draft when they took Trash,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, that's an Arians guy, like,
Speaker 1: no question, and that's not a compliment people like I.
Speaker 1: I'm I was not particularly high on trash, but I
Speaker 1: just think he can't resist the like tall pocket passer Um,
Speaker 1: he's making it work. I mean he's made it work.
Speaker 1: But bet with Roethlisberger and Palmer he's digging. Well, there's
Speaker 1: a Mark had a big theory throughout his first season
Speaker 1: in Tampa Arians that like he was totally checked out
Speaker 1: and was like was almost that he was with Trent Green,
Speaker 1: like he was March act out than he was alongside
Speaker 1: Trent Green in the CBS booth, which is hard. Well,
Speaker 1: I would not say that he was more checked out
Speaker 1: than he was besides Trent Green. He did not want
Speaker 1: to be in that booth. But the first year in
Speaker 1: Tampa with Jamis Winston throwing like five interceptions in the
Speaker 1: London game and pick six is he looked a little
Speaker 1: tired to me. But I am multiply wrong. No one
Speaker 1: can convince me that Bruce Arians was a broadcaster for
Speaker 1: one year. It didn't happen. Show me the proof, I demanded.
Speaker 1: I don't think it did happen. I think he was there,
Speaker 1: but his voice by the way, whenever he talks. I
Speaker 1: just did a panel with him, um, the all the women,
Speaker 1: the diversity. Yeah, and and every time he talks. I'm
Speaker 1: surprising you, but I've heard this man thousands of times, right,
Speaker 1: and every time he speaks, there's like a softness to
Speaker 1: his voice. It's a little higher than you expect. It
Speaker 1: actually sounds like what he looks like, which is a
Speaker 1: hired assassin, like and who's been in the business for
Speaker 1: a long time. He talks like that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't is that an accent? Am I where is
Speaker 1: he from? Ricky? Can you find out where Bruce arians?
Speaker 1: It's distincting. It always takes me back a little bit. Um.
Speaker 1: In other news, Jeff Schultz, reporter for The Athletic, leads
Speaker 1: a right up on the Julio Jones situation with the Falcons.
Speaker 1: Thus Lee, the Falcons would like to trade Julio Jones
Speaker 1: period end of sentence. Okay, So it's uh, this guy
Speaker 1: that's plugged in deeply to the team knows it. Now
Speaker 1: the question becomes Mark Sessler, does it happen? How do
Speaker 1: they make it happen? They have some very real problems
Speaker 1: You've talked about. Mark often on this podcast this offseason.
Speaker 1: They have major salary cap issues to the extent that
Speaker 1: they can't sign their rookie class right now, and Julio
Speaker 1: Jones moving him off the books would solve a major
Speaker 1: real hurdle. Is it gonna happen? Is this thing? Is
Speaker 1: it fate? At this point, I think I think you've
Speaker 1: gotta mix in what you know. Our friend Steve White
Speaker 1: has reported to they don't want to it's not really
Speaker 1: about the player, but they are in a position, you know,
Speaker 1: as as the article noted, um, they can't really even
Speaker 1: sign their draft picks right now, and so I think
Speaker 1: that they're they're kind of stuck. And like you look
Speaker 1: at Thomas Dimitroff, who's you know, not really being mentioned enough.
Speaker 1: Part of your job is GM is not to get
Speaker 1: the team if you can help it into this kind
Speaker 1: of situation. They weren't a team that won five Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: and you know, with that as an excuse, but I
Speaker 1: think it's very real. I mean, just the reporting suggests
Speaker 1: it's very real, and that there were a limited number
Speaker 1: of teams that probably our targets. They talk about the Niners,
Speaker 1: the the Patriots, um, maybe the Ravens. I think the
Speaker 1: Cults could be a team in there, but they almost
Speaker 1: have to move him if they can't get Grady Jarrett
Speaker 1: UM to restructure, who's also getting paid twenty million. But
Speaker 1: they talked about Grady Jared Jarrett's agent not really UM
Speaker 1: necessarily like the most bendable, flexible guy on that front,
Speaker 1: maybe not totally game to wanting to do that. So
Speaker 1: you know the Falcons are in a tough spot. Well,
Speaker 1: you're so afraid of Grady Jarrett's agent that you can't
Speaker 1: keep like the greatest player in franchise history. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I see this is this is on
Speaker 1: your radar here me and you started. You started tweeting
Speaker 1: quite a bit this week, I mean this morning about
Speaker 1: about this story. Streets are talking that this this entire
Speaker 1: column might have been like a sub tweet or like
Speaker 1: a sub column UM responding to subma times. I know
Speaker 1: no streets are talking UM. I did put out a
Speaker 1: video saying that it didn't make sense to me. Not
Speaker 1: that the Falcons are broke, everyone knows that, but the
Speaker 1: fact that they're um looking to trade Julio to clear
Speaker 1: up some cap space doesn't square to me with everything
Speaker 1: else they've done. This off season, which was which began
Speaker 1: before the draft with restructuring Matt Ryan's contract, which was
Speaker 1: the first sign that they perhaps we're not going to
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback right because they basically tied the team
Speaker 1: of Matt Ryan for two seasons to be really painful
Speaker 1: for them to move on before then. And then of
Speaker 1: course in the draft, they don't take quarterback, they take
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. Um, you rebuild around Kyle. I love Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts the player, but he was the highest drafted tight
Speaker 1: end ever. Um to me, if you're a rebuilding team,
Speaker 1: you take justin fields there and you don't restructure Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan months before. So I don't understand why you would
Speaker 1: do those things and then trade Julio for some cap
Speaker 1: relief and like a future optimistically second round pick. And
Speaker 1: I say that obviously based on what I'm hearing, I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. Um, you're not going to get an
Speaker 1: impact player. You didn't get a pick that you could
Speaker 1: use this year. I just it feels like, um mixed
Speaker 1: messages from the organization, and I have yet to hear
Speaker 1: a good reason why you don't restructure Grave Jared, who's
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated defensive players in football other
Speaker 1: than Todd France is scary. That's decried like extension could
Speaker 1: be hard getting an extension for Jared, which also would
Speaker 1: make sense. It could be hard. But literally, any player
Speaker 1: will a yes, I'll take if if you want to
Speaker 1: give me my twenty million dollars today and then spread
Speaker 1: it out over the rest of my contract, they will
Speaker 1: take it. That thing. It is not hard. The the
Speaker 1: article from Saltz made me think though that they actually
Speaker 1: they really do want to trade Julio. And this was
Speaker 1: the first time that I thought, Okay, this actually is
Speaker 1: probably gonna happen. If I had to guess, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't really know and and I don't get it,
Speaker 1: not just like message sending of rebuilding or not, but
Speaker 1: just like this offense could be awesome. I don't know
Speaker 1: they if they could be a top five offense, they
Speaker 1: could absolutely be in the playoffs. They could absolutely have
Speaker 1: a meaningful season, And you're gonna do that for some
Speaker 1: second round pick. It just does that part doesn't make
Speaker 1: anything thing to like this. This is a team that
Speaker 1: had four wins last year. I tweeted this. They had
Speaker 1: the Pythagorean wins of a seven and a half team
Speaker 1: win win team. Based on their point differential, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be better. They upgraded at coaching. They brought Dps out
Speaker 1: of retirement, which I feel like everyone who's kind of
Speaker 1: being overlooked or just Smith amazing offensive coach. There's totally
Speaker 1: a case for this team blowing defenses out of the water.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, whom I love of having a comeback season,
Speaker 1: don't train, Julio can get it. We're all in agreement.
Speaker 1: Then restructure Grady jar and let's go. Let's not overthink this.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Flaklins and other news. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow recovering from that nasty knee injury is quote,
Speaker 1: all systems go for week one, and that coat came
Speaker 1: directly the all systems go from the doctor that has
Speaker 1: worked with Burrow. Week one is against the Vikings. We'll
Speaker 1: see how they handled the summer and and preseason and
Speaker 1: all that, but that's very good news. Minna have Burrow
Speaker 1: back on the field. And on that note, I'll just
Speaker 1: throw it out there since we're here. Very nice year
Speaker 1: coming up for comeback Player of the Year race. Like
Speaker 1: we knew last year, what was gonna happen? Alex Smith
Speaker 1: if he made it back, don't even have a vote.
Speaker 1: We know this year it's wide open, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you some odds here. Um Dak Prescott leads the
Speaker 1: way come back from the fraction Ankle, Plug, Quan Burrow
Speaker 1: and CMC all plus six hundred, Nick Bosa plus seven hundred,
Speaker 1: and then some long shots for you to chew on
Speaker 1: here everybody Derwin, James von Miller plus six hundred, O'Dell
Speaker 1: Marquis plus twenty hundred, and then Jimmy g As a
Speaker 1: real long shot plus five thousand. Who do you like,
Speaker 1: Nina coins? Um, I think those odds accurately like the
Speaker 1: likelihood of every player. I don't. Um. I would say
Speaker 1: probably Barkley is a bit of a long shot. Um
Speaker 1: I would go botha over Barkley and CMC personally, but
Speaker 1: it did seem like decks to lose Stacker Brew. How
Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan? Where is he? Plus four thousand? Get
Speaker 1: like the Philip Rivers Memorial Comeback Player of the Year
Speaker 1: where Philip Rivers came back from being like the eighteenth
Speaker 1: best quarterback and then was the sixth. Like I could
Speaker 1: see that. Then your boy Matt Ryan had catt could
Speaker 1: not be that could be Carson. What if Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: through forty touchdowns in you know Indiana was gonna say, Like,
Speaker 1: back in I think it was seven, they gave Raphael
Speaker 1: Palmero the Gold Glove and he paid like fourteen games
Speaker 1: at first base. There had to be that year that
Speaker 1: they gave Phil Rivers come Back Player of the Year
Speaker 1: because he threw a bunch of interceptions the year before.
Speaker 1: There had to be some nose tackle that shredded as
Speaker 1: achilles and played every snap the next year and made
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl that just didn't get love because he
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't a quarterback. Can I take over and
Speaker 1: ask you guys a question that I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: not getting good answer from. You could have just asked it.
Speaker 1: I like the frameman is taking over that is here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm redirecting the I didn't come on. You didn't ask
Speaker 1: me to come on and ask questions. What do you
Speaker 1: think is the likelihood? Just give it a present that
Speaker 1: Carson Wentze is better than Philip Rivers was. It's funny
Speaker 1: we just had this conversation on some level on our
Speaker 1: last show, and I'm kind of on the Wentz wagon.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is Frank right related the Phil
Speaker 1: Rivers bar. That's the thing that maybe I'm curious what
Speaker 1: you guys think was the bar? Is it? Where is
Speaker 1: that bar? Was it pretty low bar to clear? Is
Speaker 1: it a I know it wasn't a high bar. It
Speaker 1: was like maybe a medium bar. I think wins can
Speaker 1: clear what Rivers did last year because I think he
Speaker 1: has upside and gets the fresh start with good coaching.
Speaker 1: That's where I come down. What's their percent? I'm giving
Speaker 1: it yeah, uh. Because I'm such a Rivers fan and
Speaker 1: not a Wentz fan, I'm gonna give it seven. Seven.
Speaker 1: Rivers was like I would say Rivers was like the
Speaker 1: four teams best quarterback in the league or something. But
Speaker 1: it does matter to me that he played fantastic in
Speaker 1: the playoff game. I know it didn't end that well,
Speaker 1: but he played as well or better than Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and m v P Canada in that game. Like he
Speaker 1: played great in that game, so that that counts for me.
Speaker 1: I would so Dan is officially a Wentz head. Um
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not on skeptical, So I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: it at forty one point six chance probably good. It's
Speaker 1: probably the right answer. All right, that's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. By the way, Tim Tebow officially signed. He's
Speaker 1: number means you number fifteen, probably gonna trade him, Tebo
Speaker 1: get I mean, I don't want to go down. This
Speaker 1: will not be on the team by the time by
Speaker 1: the time Mini gets traded. I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Let's say it for another show. I just
Speaker 1: I'm still sure. I was the more I thought about
Speaker 1: this thing, because I hadn't really thought about it since
Speaker 1: that became a story. But like, why is urban Meyer
Speaker 1: actually doing this? I almost think it's something personally. He's
Speaker 1: just doing his buddy a favor that his wife said,
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow will always be a son to us. And
Speaker 1: all right, okay, here we go, let's get into it
Speaker 1: inner monologue time. How do you feel about this? Me
Speaker 1: and you feel good about the seg um. I think
Speaker 1: it's creative. We're like we we we we had some
Speaker 1: you know, meeting of the minds here, like we were like,
Speaker 1: what can we do the next six or seven weeks.
Speaker 1: That's not just previewing the season, which we're gonna do
Speaker 1: almost every day starting in July. So it's it's a tough.
Speaker 1: We ranked defenses last week that that felt pretty bottom
Speaker 1: of the barrel. That's that's good, just good rankings. The
Speaker 1: Mina Kim Show featuring Lonny by the Way, Oh Yeah
Speaker 1: featuring Linny um Erica tamp Post reports via the producer's
Speaker 1: Share that Bruce Arians is from Paterson, New Jersey, but
Speaker 1: he grew up in York, Pennsylvania, home of alternative Rocks,
Speaker 1: Stalwart Live. So the most famous person to come out
Speaker 1: of York, you decide, I go okay, I am Lightning Crashes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lightning Crash and I are like Secret Live,
Speaker 1: not even secret overt live. Fans, Wait, is there another song?
Speaker 1: What's what's another song that he's done? Uh? All over
Speaker 1: you selling the drama? The Dolphins Cry? I mean We're
Speaker 1: Dolphins Cry is great? What's the one that you and
Speaker 1: I um started to love that no one else knows?
Speaker 1: We go Deep, We go deep, cuts off mental jewelry
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins Cry would be a great money I
Speaker 1: football outro, Like you know, I maybe it was really clever,
Speaker 1: like references just whenever Lightning crashes For the Chargers too,
Speaker 1: it's always don't confuse live though with the band that
Speaker 1: did or else Dan Market very upset. You know that stummies.
Speaker 1: Those are feelings, all right, Let's get into an inner monologue,
Speaker 1: inner thoughts that people in the NFL are afraid to
Speaker 1: share with anyone but themselves. I'll get things going, and
Speaker 1: I will. I'm gonna take you inside the mind of
Speaker 1: Las Vegas raider Is general manager Mike Mayock. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I feel that I'm under an alarming amount of pressure
Speaker 1: that Alex Leatherwood pick. I kind of wish I had
Speaker 1: that one back. People are pretty mean to me about that. Oh.
Speaker 1: When I saw John that night in the break room,
Speaker 1: he said, you outsmarted everybody again. Mikey, what was he
Speaker 1: messing with me? You kind of set it through gritted teeth?
Speaker 1: Is that how he always talks? I need to watch
Speaker 1: one of those Corona commercials to be sure, like us
Speaker 1: a beer focus, Mike Leatherwood, It'll be fine. Need some
Speaker 1: of these other draft picks to help me out, though,
Speaker 1: rugs are Net Jacobs and Abraham. That'll have to those
Speaker 1: guy is. Last year peril was like thinking, so stupid
Speaker 1: John is a tenure contract. They're gonna come for me
Speaker 1: if these guys don't improve. I wonder if I film
Speaker 1: network would give me my whole job, Daniel Jeremy Jack,
Speaker 1: I'm hungry, can give a taco mm hmmm. A lot
Speaker 1: of pressure from Mike. We're out of the mind. We're
Speaker 1: out of his mind. Were we also right? I was
Speaker 1: just gonna wait, you can do it anyway. You're fine,
Speaker 1: You're fine, You're fine, You're the guest. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we we've done this enough. We all know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna turn your Yeah. I do like the idea of
Speaker 1: Mike Mayak as a as like this self doubting guy,
Speaker 1: because he never gives off that impressions whatsoever, but there
Speaker 1: has to be a little bit of doubt creeping. And
Speaker 1: I mean you do you do feel for him as
Speaker 1: a human because he knows how like amazing this opportunity was,
Speaker 1: like it was perfect for It's not like it's a
Speaker 1: kid getting picked out of the stands to like beyond
Speaker 1: the team, but it's about as close as you'll probably
Speaker 1: get in in the NFL that it's it's virtually on precedent,
Speaker 1: and he knows that this year matters, and they've they've
Speaker 1: had so many draft picks over the last three or
Speaker 1: four years, Like they did that part right. Everyone says,
Speaker 1: get a million draft picks, take a million swings, and
Speaker 1: they've they did the drect The team is absolutely in
Speaker 1: his image, and John Gruden's history will indicate that he
Speaker 1: will absolutely use Mayak as a scapegoat if if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. This is what I would say. I think
Speaker 1: one problem is, even even if Leatherwood um is a
Speaker 1: plus performer, your average fan is not going to be
Speaker 1: tracking Leatherwood on Sundays the way they would if it was,
Speaker 1: like you picked up this running back that goes for
Speaker 1: like six hundred yards or a wide receiver blowing people
Speaker 1: up a little bit difficult. It's so perfect that the
Speaker 1: hated writer's re pick this year was a lineman named
Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood. You just you couldn't make that up, all right?
Speaker 1: Ended up being um. Who did they take after him?
Speaker 1: The dB UM marriage? Yeah, Travan Merrick, it was. I
Speaker 1: It's simply if they had switched to the picks, everybody
Speaker 1: would have been cool with the draft. Like if they
Speaker 1: had taken marriage before Weatherwood in the exact same spots,
Speaker 1: they ended up with the same players. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of stuck to his guns. He's like stuck to his
Speaker 1: esoteric draft boards three years in a row, which does
Speaker 1: indicate I don't think he's too worried about what what
Speaker 1: people like us are saying. You're up next, take us
Speaker 1: inside the mind of who, um I'll do von Miller first,
Speaker 1: the probably no one expect the same level of performance.
Speaker 1: I got the pressure, all right, speaking pressure, man, I'm
Speaker 1: a favorite win comeback of the year. My defense is stacked.
Speaker 1: It's been since the Super Bowl run. We are well coached.
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb's opposite me. We resigned Shelby Harris. Our secondary
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. This is one of the best secondaries I've
Speaker 1: ever played with. We got Kyle Fuller in the mix.
Speaker 1: We drafted that kid with the dad who everyone's excited about.
Speaker 1: But you guys know, we're not win with Drew lock.
Speaker 1: Every day I practice, I gotta watch that guy throw
Speaker 1: passes that I know our defense with intercept. So Aaron,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, whatever it takes, get out here, man.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go out like this. I just
Speaker 1: can't ler out. I likely said. You guys know, and
Speaker 1: then if you make a passion like you reach to
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Is all inside the mind of von Miller.
Speaker 1: So now I have more questions. Okay, so it would
Speaker 1: have been more like maybe I should text Daron. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's sort of an aquaman skill set potentially. You know,
Speaker 1: if I had written it, I would have thought up
Speaker 1: this through a little bit. No, No, that I man, Matt,
Speaker 1: Where where do they if they ever if they ever
Speaker 1: ever ever found a way to get Rogers there? Like
Speaker 1: where did they come down? When you like put together
Speaker 1: the top teams in the NFC? Are they right behind
Speaker 1: the Chiefs too? That ever happened depends who they gave up.
Speaker 1: Depends like if they happened to give up like Bradley
Speaker 1: Chub and Jerry Judy and someone else, then maybe that
Speaker 1: would change something. But no, I would think I would
Speaker 1: put them number one. I mean I would even because
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was you that said this.
Speaker 1: Meaning last week, it's like there's like a lot of
Speaker 1: rosters better than the Chiefs. It's like they just have
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes like the Chiefs do not Like if the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were given Kirk Cousins, They've got like the twelve
Speaker 1: best roster in the league. You know, So if you
Speaker 1: put Aaron Rodgers on the Broncos, I like where did
Speaker 1: your rank the Broncos in your defense rankings, it's gotta
Speaker 1: they've got to be top five. Had them at three
Speaker 1: and I was, But defense is incredibly stacked, and so
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the number three defense and some and some
Speaker 1: good parts around them. I think they might be the favorite.
Speaker 1: You're right, the von Mill like people on the like
Speaker 1: veterans on the Broncos have to be actually feeling this,
Speaker 1: like I don't think people if there's like a thing
Speaker 1: that I can convey about NFL players that maybe they
Speaker 1: don't express publicly. It's how sick defensive players get of
Speaker 1: playing with quarterbacks like privately, those are the like it
Speaker 1: wears on you. And how many short fields do you
Speaker 1: deal with when you have a quarterbacks thrown an interception
Speaker 1: on your own fifteen? You know, at least Teddy is
Speaker 1: more likable. They'll they'll at least like like them in
Speaker 1: the locker room. You know, I forgot about I forgot
Speaker 1: to mention Teddy. Don't don't we having having We've had
Speaker 1: a few ted talks recently that have kind of been
Speaker 1: a little bit it's gotten a little salty. Uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: You're okay, I think I went too long. I'm realizing
Speaker 1: now all right, here we go. Ah, this is inside
Speaker 1: the mind of Urban Meyer. Oh boy, I got this.
Speaker 1: I'm not Ship Kelly, I'm not Nick Saban jumping to
Speaker 1: the n c A at the first sign of treble.
Speaker 1: Who do these people think they're dealing with? So what
Speaker 1: if I hired a racist strength coach? What am I
Speaker 1: zip recruiter? So what if I played traffics at the
Speaker 1: end at wide receiver in many camp? There's no tackling
Speaker 1: new nim Rods and big deal. If I want to
Speaker 1: let Timmy have his little tight end fantasy camp with us,
Speaker 1: I could play Trevor Lawrence's painting brother at h pack
Speaker 1: and we would steamroll this division. Carson Wentz, Please, he
Speaker 1: couldn't have started at North Dakota State last year the Titans.
Speaker 1: The Titans are three offensive players and Mike Brabel's haircut.
Speaker 1: That's the Sexans are right? Oh? I like that Easter
Speaker 1: b guy. Still, I got this. I've got my national
Speaker 1: media friends in my back pocket. We got Fox, we
Speaker 1: got NFL network. I've got less media down here than
Speaker 1: I've gotten Columbus. I've got Joe Cullen, that guy who
Speaker 1: was naked in the Wendy's drive through running my defense.
Speaker 1: I've gotta I've gotta change offensive football with my beautiful
Speaker 1: Trevor and my cutting edge play color um Darryl Bevil.
Speaker 1: All I need is to schedule some nonconference cupcakes in
Speaker 1: September and we'll be top five in the coaches poll
Speaker 1: before you know it. I've got this man. That man
Speaker 1: is not at a loss for confidence internally at least
Speaker 1: rods on people. That's not that's sharp cutting, totally clear
Speaker 1: on what the NFL schedule is, but you know, listen
Speaker 1: in time, in time, not wrong about the division Urban, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just something about just something about that he's so on
Speaker 1: my radar and the interviews he has with the with
Speaker 1: the media members who are all buddies with them and
Speaker 1: they're on my radar. He just feels like thinks he's
Speaker 1: above the rest of it. I'm not. No, We're gonna
Speaker 1: find out. He's got to put up results and he's
Speaker 1: got the kids. I mean, who else, Like, no one
Speaker 1: has criticized these hires. No one's criticize Well, maybe people
Speaker 1: are starting to criticize it. But it's like, though, like
Speaker 1: I I now, for a lot of reasons, want to
Speaker 1: watch the Jaguars where I, you know, strongly avoided them.
Speaker 1: There's just like a lot of belief and maybe he
Speaker 1: there's a there's a total chance that he's gonna you know,
Speaker 1: be good and make them nine and seven right away.
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm not just like cashing in that's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this will work out. This could be a
Speaker 1: total fiasco. I think I think that's probably I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that are just assuming
Speaker 1: they're gonna take off now that this could definitely I
Speaker 1: will give him credit for this that he he handled
Speaker 1: this beautifully from a timing standpoint. You know, he's the
Speaker 1: celebrated college coach. He makes a ton of money, uh,
Speaker 1: doing TV, and then he got this perfect opportunity that's
Speaker 1: franchise that backed up the brain struck for this generational
Speaker 1: quarterback at number one overall. So he gets that and
Speaker 1: he gets full power. It seems like, uh, to set
Speaker 1: things up the way he wants. He could even do
Speaker 1: things like signed Tim Tebow because he likes him and
Speaker 1: wants to do His brow is solid, like he's set up. Well,
Speaker 1: now you have to produce though, this is the national
Speaker 1: football I mean, if they had to three win seasons.
Speaker 1: I could also see him, you know, hitting the road.
Speaker 1: He's not someone that's like, hey, let me stay stick
Speaker 1: around for seven or eight years in places. So it's
Speaker 1: like when Reggie busch Um quit our digital television program
Speaker 1: and headed back to Fox. A similar situation to work
Speaker 1: with Urban Meyer. M Mark, you're buddy, all right, I
Speaker 1: um am going to go inside the mind of Brown's
Speaker 1: general manager Andrew Barry Music. Please, I carry secrets things
Speaker 1: nobody else could know. A trade on the table O'Dell
Speaker 1: to New England for a second rounder in the exclusive
Speaker 1: rights to special assistant Ernie Adams. Ernie, he is not
Speaker 1: any more retired than Tom Brady. We're giving him his
Speaker 1: old office back the bunker he's slept in from nine
Speaker 1: one to right here in Cleveland. Mind exercise seven hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy seven times five hundred and fifty five is
Speaker 1: four D and thirty one thousand, two d and thirty five.
Speaker 1: There's just things that nobody knows. Kevin Stefanski born May
Speaker 1: How we were introduced to each other in the year
Speaker 1: two thousand, right after I quietly saw the y two
Speaker 1: K bug for the Clinton White House at age thirteen,
Speaker 1: Stefanski and I were put into that special ops program
Speaker 1: for gifted minds, a lot of crazy ship astral projection
Speaker 1: remote viewing. They kept us hidden away in those caverns
Speaker 1: under Arlington Cemetery. We watch football obsessively in our downtime
Speaker 1: cut ups old film. That's how we met Ernie at
Speaker 1: He was doing some really dark stuff for the Navy.
Speaker 1: People think the Browns just settled on Stefanski. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, this was all pre planned. Paul D. Podesta,
Speaker 1: a baseball man, just crosses over to the NFL. Everyone
Speaker 1: buys it, makes fun of him. People want simple answers.
Speaker 1: Loan gunman us alone in the universe. This goes so
Speaker 1: much deeper than people know. They have no idea what
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns really are, why they went away, why
Speaker 1: they came back, and why they're rising again at this
Speaker 1: very hour. Barry out himself. I always thought the Native
Speaker 1: American flute was something that was just inside your mind.
Speaker 1: Mark that so imagine when you're up at three thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning. But I guess Andrew Barry as well. Yeah, Kindred.
Speaker 1: It's it's surprising because you think of Barry as this
Speaker 1: like analytics guy, you know, very you know Harvard educated, right,
Speaker 1: I believe Um, But no, like he it's not just
Speaker 1: thought about the numbers, it's about you know, conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: for him. He kind of made him a shaman or
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Um, Big Belichick put Ernie Adams on
Speaker 1: the on the trade block like before he retired. Well,
Speaker 1: now you know that's complex. Greg. I don't know anymore
Speaker 1: than what I what I just told you. So does
Speaker 1: the bloom? So I feel like Barry's right now the
Speaker 1: guy like everybody loves him. Everybody loves his drafts. Everybody
Speaker 1: loves with including me. I'm a big, big Berry fan.
Speaker 1: Do you think the bloom comes off the Rows if
Speaker 1: they extend Baker and he struggles in the first year
Speaker 1: A basic extension, yes, because I think that's that is
Speaker 1: a lightning flashpoint that would get essentially everyone in the
Speaker 1: media to go crazy on the Browns. So that would
Speaker 1: be it. But I mean, you know, if he plays
Speaker 1: great and then they extend him, I don't what do
Speaker 1: you not extend him? If he has a great smart
Speaker 1: That's why Barry keeps on pushing the right buttons. He's
Speaker 1: not extending him. He's not going to make the Jared
Speaker 1: goffmus ache right now he's gonna wait another year. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's actually sound the time where Golf
Speaker 1: and you know Golf got his extension and who else
Speaker 1: am I forgetting Wentz gets the extensive? Is the summer
Speaker 1: right before camp. That is the time that you do this.
Speaker 1: And it does sound like they're pretty interested in doing it.
Speaker 1: And I don't see the big upside. What is the
Speaker 1: gonna do if you wallion dollars more year whatever? Do
Speaker 1: it in week seven? Like if he gets off to
Speaker 1: fast start, he's gonna take that money in week seven.
Speaker 1: But let's see like a little bit of year two
Speaker 1: with one game, no play action button. So far, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a group think guy. We'll see all
Speaker 1: right up next and to take you inside the mind.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which of Jared Goff, Oh, fresh start for
Speaker 1: the j man. And this is exactly what I needed.
Speaker 1: I forget about my one house in Malibu and the
Speaker 1: other one near my parents place in Napa Valley. I'm
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Now. They may lakes all around this bitch,
Speaker 1: But should I buy yeah or rent? Do the lions
Speaker 1: really like me? Or did they bring me here just
Speaker 1: to get those number? Ones. Wait a second, A damn second.
Speaker 1: The Lions trade for me, so they could replace me
Speaker 1: with a draft pick they got in the trade for me.
Speaker 1: That's messed up, Dan Campbell want to do that to me?
Speaker 1: That dude seems brat Holmes. That guy's a straight shooter,
Speaker 1: upper management written all over. He wouldn't lie to me, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta call my agent. Oh, I feel bad for
Speaker 1: him after that. So listen, there's a lot of in
Speaker 1: all of us. Uh. I'll only speak for myself, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it's quite common. There's a level of
Speaker 1: self doubt and all of us. And how could Yard
Speaker 1: goff off this offseason? I think he's being set up
Speaker 1: for a long term stay in Detroit. Now I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll set it up the football conversation like this,
Speaker 1: this offensive line could be awesome, potentially are very good. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go and you take um Seul with the first pick.
Speaker 1: That's great. You got Frank Ragno, they just signed him
Speaker 1: to the extension. Um Taylor Decker Um had a really
Speaker 1: big season on the other side, and you got some
Speaker 1: solid guard play last year. Like maybe it's a really
Speaker 1: good line and that can help a quarterback and measurably
Speaker 1: as we know, the uh skill players on the outside
Speaker 1: a problem obviously unless somebody has a career year. But
Speaker 1: is is there any chance a long winded question, double question, Assessler,
Speaker 1: double question, Hey, any chance Jared Goff has a solid
Speaker 1: season and b that he's their quarterback in two years?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I think there's a chance. Yeah. Remember Anthony
Speaker 1: Lynn is the coordinator. Uh yeah, Like he's not gonna
Speaker 1: throw the ball much. He might he might throw like
Speaker 1: four and eighty four times. I guess if they fall
Speaker 1: behind in games, that will be tricky. But if he's
Speaker 1: well protected, Like there's the bar is so low for
Speaker 1: him now that if he has like an eighteen or
Speaker 1: nineteen touchdown and ten interception with like seven yards per attempt,
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, oh wow, Jared Goff was better than
Speaker 1: we thought and he's he's capable of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just last August, that mean, and I jumped
Speaker 1: on the I don't know if you want to call
Speaker 1: it a bandwagon, but the Lions something or other um
Speaker 1: and they disappointed my expectations. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: evenganizationally they're saying they're gonna be um blowing people away
Speaker 1: this year, So I don't like to set up for
Speaker 1: Jared Goff a ton and I don't think they're thinking
Speaker 1: Jared Goff's to your second question, I think they begin
Speaker 1: heat seeking a younger quarterback probably in the next draft.
Speaker 1: Do you think they should have taken the young quarterback
Speaker 1: this year? Yes, I would have taken I would have
Speaker 1: taken Justin Fields. But the Lion's Den, by the way,
Speaker 1: it was like, it was weird how they basically decided
Speaker 1: ahead of time and throw to the Eagles, apparently like
Speaker 1: they were not going to take Dustin Fields no matter
Speaker 1: what which is. We're just writing like they were trying
Speaker 1: to trade up four sewell two four, and the Falcons
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. Supposedly. I mean, they tried to trade up,
Speaker 1: and it made it sound pretty clear that it was
Speaker 1: going to be for Sewel. They got him at seven.
Speaker 1: That worked out. The non rebuilding Falcons was not interested
Speaker 1: in trading down for a haul. Make it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Stop stop, I'll stop stop tweeting my sub tweet you
Speaker 1: know whatever. Um yeah, Jared, Jared knows the score. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you are publicly called trade draft kick clotter, I think,
Speaker 1: um he he seems like a guy who would pay
Speaker 1: attention to you. I don't know if he's kept that
Speaker 1: golf course thing that he put in the back of
Speaker 1: his house where he could where he could chip like
Speaker 1: three yards below to it to his neighbors. Was already scene.
Speaker 1: He wasn't hitting the hole, and I felt like a
Speaker 1: horrible metaphor. I do know they've taken down the banana
Speaker 1: public um posters of golf on the third Avenue promenade
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, but that's because I think all the
Speaker 1: businesses have closed, so me and it isn't just totally
Speaker 1: so when things go south and the lions, then mina
Speaker 1: do when I try to put together the imagery, are
Speaker 1: you devoured by the expectations? Do the lions devour you?
Speaker 1: Do you starve inside the lines that when things go
Speaker 1: poorly in the lines? Yeah? Well that isn't there talk
Speaker 1: of an actual lion on the sidelines now, So maybe
Speaker 1: you have a date with the live mascot. I liked,
Speaker 1: I actually liked the cod chan high. I mean it's
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. It was a mistake. I mean,
Speaker 1: wouldn't the lions the lions themselves would become punchless and
Speaker 1: less vicious, because that's what happens to That's what happened
Speaker 1: to the actual Lions in the football season. So I
Speaker 1: think you're, if you're a human, you probably just get
Speaker 1: right out of there. Would you like that golf? You know,
Speaker 1: had sort of the Hollywood production value that his song
Speaker 1: changed midway through. I mean, Mina is worried about you
Speaker 1: didn't write your things out. I mean we got song
Speaker 1: changing changing. We could request songs didn't. Yeah, like in
Speaker 1: high school or something. This is just a thousand podcasts
Speaker 1: of faking it, you know. According to Dennis Dodd and
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, Matt Campbell of Iowa State was offered an
Speaker 1: eight year deal worth sixty eight and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars to leave the college ranks and take over the
Speaker 1: Lions program from Matt Patricia. Um, that's weird, kind of weird,
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. First of all, guys got the same last name,
Speaker 1: and then he's getting a seven million dollars seventy million
Speaker 1: dollar offer, right and like the three I think three
Speaker 1: last years was like Matt Campbell had the leverage to
Speaker 1: get that kind of offer and you didn't take it.
Speaker 1: Kind of a weird time in Detroit Lions history. All right,
Speaker 1: now you're up. Oh, okay, um, this one's a letta
Speaker 1: be a little subversive. I think, ok well, I just
Speaker 1: think you know, people call me a homer. I think
Speaker 1: this is going to fly in the face of that
Speaker 1: a little bit. No one costs me a homer, really,
Speaker 1: but you know, well, you know Miner's fans on Twitter. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm waving my hand from you up there. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's me, Brian Schottenheimer. A punchline. So many jokes in Seattle,
Speaker 1: so many memes, so many insults over the years. You
Speaker 1: wanted me to throw the ball, I did. I throw
Speaker 1: it on early downs at the highest rate in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What more do you want from me? Yeah, our offense
Speaker 1: sucked in the second half of the season, But where
Speaker 1: are still throwing the ball? Well, like, let me correct that.
Speaker 1: Somebody wasn't throwing the ball two open receivers underneath. He
Speaker 1: was big game hunting. I'm not gonna name names. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna name names. Ussell Wilson, I didn't draft that
Speaker 1: offensive line. I didn't pick that center. Those guards. One
Speaker 1: of the guards is okay, Damian Lewis. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be good ure, it's not my fault, and yet here
Speaker 1: I am the subject of scorn and blame. A joke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my vibes are makes more sense in Florida, if you
Speaker 1: know what, screw you, Seattle. I got six inches of
Speaker 1: height now to work with. Shoddy is going to show
Speaker 1: them that it wasn't my fault. The little internal pep
Speaker 1: talk and I love yeah, you know, picturing like looking
Speaker 1: in the mirror, like shirtless just pumping his fist. That
Speaker 1: big gss connects to my um to my my conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory that Russell Wilson partly put out all the trade
Speaker 1: requests to distract everyone from his his self started m
Speaker 1: v P campaign crashing off the tracks because of the
Speaker 1: worst ten game stretch of his entire career, which for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, he got like no blame for maybe from
Speaker 1: some Seahawks fans like yourself. I mean, I think kind
Speaker 1: of notice, but I feel like nationally was just like
Speaker 1: their offensive line Stinx and Brian Shotton. Oh oh, they
Speaker 1: stopped like trying to throw the ball. It's like now, Russell,
Speaker 1: like it happens. I'm not that worried long term, but
Speaker 1: that was the worst ten game stretch of his career,
Speaker 1: he struggled. If anything, Schottenheimer showed flexibility because you just
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna get this guy that's the same offense
Speaker 1: year after year, and he went for it last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of did everything Russell Wilson asked for.
Speaker 1: But I think we're just so I've never really even
Speaker 1: heard any critique of Russell Wilson the quarterback on the
Speaker 1: field ever. So it was sort of probably a mental
Speaker 1: shift and adjustment that we could handle in season. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny to me, like there are the
Speaker 1: Baldies of the world and other people that really understand
Speaker 1: the nuances of offensive line play and what's actually going
Speaker 1: on in the trenches, and but you don't need to
Speaker 1: be that person to see what was happening in points
Speaker 1: with Seattle's offense last year. He just held the ball
Speaker 1: too long and that was the big game hunting that
Speaker 1: was internally his offensive coordinator was thinking about in his
Speaker 1: mind shirtless with a giant cross like that. You didn't
Speaker 1: have to be an expert to see that Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: maybe was trying to do too much and that was
Speaker 1: killing the team to time. The other thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, but I would remembered if I had written
Speaker 1: down my script that I didn't. Um is they played
Speaker 1: the Ramps twice, they played Aaron Donald twice. You know,
Speaker 1: I think we are like there, there's a bit of
Speaker 1: a sample size issue in competition, uh, factoring into this? Alright, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're all right, we're going to get inside the mind
Speaker 1: of Zach Taylor Beals. Oh yeah, that guy. I'm good enough.
Speaker 1: I'm smart enough, doggone it. People like me except for
Speaker 1: that Mark Sessler character. What is this deal? Always wanting
Speaker 1: to punch down on us poor Bengals because his Browns
Speaker 1: have a little success. Well, whatever happened to Ohio unit community?
Speaker 1: That's a thing. Why don't we both rise up and
Speaker 1: take over these bullies in Pittsburgh and Baltimore? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: what's not to like about this team? Jabbar Chase, Tee Higgins,
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon, Joey Burrow. I dare say that
Speaker 1: group is better than the one in Cleveland, better than
Speaker 1: the Steelers, better than the Ravens in terms of offense.
Speaker 1: And here I see how Mark say, how forgettable? I
Speaker 1: am well over and over. Sorry if I like polos
Speaker 1: instead of button downs, Mark, why don't you try winning
Speaker 1: back to back games in the NFL with Ryan Finley
Speaker 1: and Brandon Allen. That happen, It's gonna happen a lot more.
Speaker 1: Just you watch out, Mr Sessler. Oh no, I guess
Speaker 1: that he does seem like a good dad on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's made a good He's made
Speaker 1: a good case for how strong the roster is. So
Speaker 1: where are the winds? Um? I? My thing with Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor is this, I just don't understand. I don't understand
Speaker 1: who he is at this point where two seasons in
Speaker 1: he was hired to be kind of like a Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh Offshoot, Um, you have your quarterback now, like I
Speaker 1: think there's they're bright skies ahead. But you know if
Speaker 1: in year three you better produce so that the only
Speaker 1: thing that going in his favors. The Bengals move about
Speaker 1: with the speed of molasses when it comes to any
Speaker 1: sort of coaching change. So he's probably safe until at
Speaker 1: least twenty one. So do we get where do you
Speaker 1: come down on me and the passing on sel for Jamach?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna are they going to rue that decision?
Speaker 1: Or is Jamar Chase a transcendent talent and how upset
Speaker 1: can you really get if that guy's a superstar. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a defensible pick. I would have taken Suel,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was like a wildly bad decision.
Speaker 1: I actually thought the Dolphins should have gotten more criticism
Speaker 1: for um not taking Sue. But I dared to say
Speaker 1: on NFL a lot, this is a really great place
Speaker 1: for me to air out all my Twitter grievances and
Speaker 1: strong men whatever. I dared to say that the way
Speaker 1: what I've said, I'm probably making it sound more reasonable
Speaker 1: in my retelling of my own hot take. But I
Speaker 1: said their most pressure in this organization is on Jonah
Speaker 1: Williams in this offensive line, because the Bengals basically bet
Speaker 1: on that group being good enough to keep Joey healthy.
Speaker 1: And you know, the first week they get Daniel Hunter,
Speaker 1: Cleil Mac and t J. Watter, the first three elite
Speaker 1: pass rushers, and Bengels fans went crazy at me for
Speaker 1: because apparently treating Riley Reef like Prime Lane Johnson is
Speaker 1: a sin, and I don't I sorry. I think that
Speaker 1: we will see very quickly if it was a mistake.
Speaker 1: I worry about Jonah Williams health. I actually liked him
Speaker 1: as a college prospect, but that is a big bet
Speaker 1: on that dude, and he has not staying on the field,
Speaker 1: So I I think it makes sense. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think like a great wide receiver is maybe a little
Speaker 1: less than a great left tackle. But you're betting that
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is and and another level above where Sue
Speaker 1: will be like in terms of tackle ranking. And I
Speaker 1: don't doubt that that Mike Brown, who's ultimately making these
Speaker 1: influencing these decisions in and loves like big college names
Speaker 1: and everything like that, is thinking let's keep Joe Burrow happy.
Speaker 1: His contract negotiation is in a couple of years. The
Speaker 1: last real quarterback that we had like sat out because
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play our with our franchise like that,
Speaker 1: it's getting to at least for a team like the Bengals,
Speaker 1: that there might be some NBA thinking like you do
Speaker 1: with Gianna Janice, where it's like we gotta get people
Speaker 1: around him that he likes and and keep him. And
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. The bars low here. You
Speaker 1: can win six or seven games. If Joe Burrow, I
Speaker 1: think he would have liked the idea. I will you
Speaker 1: know come actual games too, but I hear you should
Speaker 1: do Greg the Mike francessa move if you can't pronounce
Speaker 1: the just uh Greek freak, Greek freak. I just don't
Speaker 1: understand how people are still saying Giann. I know, sorry, Greg,
Speaker 1: but I it's we say it all the time now.
Speaker 1: The last name is because I probably never said his
Speaker 1: name out loud. But you're you're also a football person.
Speaker 1: I'm on shows with people who talk about basketball for
Speaker 1: a living and still do it. It blows my mind.
Speaker 1: Quick sackt Taylor theory. He would be much more memorable
Speaker 1: if he had a different haircut. Yes, he looks like
Speaker 1: like me. He looks like every normal, very basic, weird,
Speaker 1: you know, white dude. So that's our That's basically been
Speaker 1: our pre issue or our issue throughout is that he
Speaker 1: looks he's got like a polo on. He just like
Speaker 1: looks like he's about to hit like eighteen holes at
Speaker 1: like the local municipal like not even a private like
Speaker 1: private he's not going to Riviera with the pick in
Speaker 1: the whole afternoon You've got. I mean, look at La
Speaker 1: Fleur in the same coaching tree with the eyebrows and
Speaker 1: the skin. He glows the slick side part. And then
Speaker 1: you've got Zach Taylor, who looks like a real turn
Speaker 1: next to him. I mean, don't get it started on
Speaker 1: the on the d C either, Captain Lou Albano, he's
Speaker 1: gotta put rubber bands and grow out of the air
Speaker 1: to be here to put his mark in the like.
Speaker 1: All right, close this out, Mark sel, All right, we
Speaker 1: are gonna be um looking into the rather mysterious mind
Speaker 1: of Jack Easterby. Oh boy, hit it, Ricky careful here now, Mark,
Speaker 1: I know what's this is his thoughts. Yeah, Jackie Baby,
Speaker 1: we're feeling real good about this Texans team, a real
Speaker 1: unique squad guided by something. We're feeling real good. Ti
Speaker 1: Odd m hm. You know what might drive to seven
Speaker 1: eleven today, pick up a treat, something special, something zesty,
Speaker 1: a treat for Jackie Baby. Sometimes you feel like a nut,
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't. Almond Joy's got nuts mounds don't from
Speaker 1: another angle. Fresh Baby Ruth, Fresh, butter finger Baby Ruth
Speaker 1: and butter Finger Fresh guaranteed like the Texans. Baby, It's Friday, Friday,
Speaker 1: gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend.
Speaker 1: Yesterday was Thursday. Today is Friday. We we we so excited,
Speaker 1: were so excited Texans Baby, you can feel it in
Speaker 1: the air. I love it. I love market because you're
Speaker 1: a little bit older than your commercials aren't our commercial era.
Speaker 1: But that felt I loved it. But Rebecca Black being
Speaker 1: Jackie used to be his favorite artist is something I'll
Speaker 1: never be able to get out of my mind now, Like,
Speaker 1: how did you end up on that set of reference?
Speaker 1: I just want to just dive into your brain for
Speaker 1: a careful I just want to know. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, we there. It's a touchy character
Speaker 1: to to go into on the show, considering who we
Speaker 1: work for, so I tried to keep it just sort
Speaker 1: of those that go into the mind of the quiet storm,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes don't come out. That's I mean, this
Speaker 1: wasn't too different than you know, we We've been into
Speaker 1: the mind of Mark quite a bit. Mina's not as experience,
Speaker 1: but I think like it felt in character with that.
Speaker 1: But I felt like this was as gentle and um
Speaker 1: forgiving an evaluation of of Mr Easterby and um, what's
Speaker 1: really going on inside? And it in now that I
Speaker 1: know this is what's going on inside like it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense what's happening in Houston. It's like
Speaker 1: a nicer way of viewing all the events that are
Speaker 1: going If if the secrets Bengali behind the scenes for
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans was a raving lunatic um, that would
Speaker 1: explain a lot. He's a sumple man who's looking forward
Speaker 1: to the weekend of audio. That's the best media Jack
Speaker 1: Easterby has gotten. I hope to Texas feel that way.
Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, I'm trying to recent favor. Sure, alright,
Speaker 1: let's let's exit these minds. It's it's it's time to
Speaker 1: It was a way, all right, Mina, you said it all.
Speaker 1: He came on and you said it all. Only thank
Speaker 1: you so much? Did I I think you did. I
Speaker 1: think you had a really again, rock solid appearance. I
Speaker 1: stretched back at my my my haters perceived in real
Speaker 1: Well use it anyway you need to. I think that
Speaker 1: was a good, good way to operate. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know where to find me in all over ESPN and
Speaker 1: check out our podcast which is great, and we'll be back.
Speaker 1: Well we got the network show, see we aren't. We're
Speaker 1: on TV. Two men it around the NFL broadcast Friday
Speaker 1: at a new earlier time, right after Good Morning Football.
Speaker 1: How about that. I think that's a solid time slot,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that goes. Um, So check that
Speaker 1: out Friday and then we'll be back with another weekest shows.
Speaker 1: I have to go pick up my son at preschool,
Speaker 1: so I gotta go that. I have to say it,
Speaker 1: I have to I have to go. We're gonna sign off.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan Hanson signing off for widestormed the old boss,
Speaker 1: Rookie Hollywood, behind the virtual glab and the great need
Speaker 1: at time until Friday, keep the call.