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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast as a very freaky post

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Speaker 1: super Bowl tradition. Welcome and you'll never know what it

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Speaker 1: is to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hands As I come to you

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Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Reg Rosenthal and boys. You know this is big, This

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Speaker 1: is big big boy pants stuff, this is big leagues.

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Speaker 1: Joining us a very special guest, um taking a break

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Speaker 1: from being on literally every single show over in Bristol.

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Speaker 1: It's the great borderline iconic Mina Kimes, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the A t N Podcast. Me and how you doing?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, it's been about a year. I guess

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Speaker 1: one more than a year, because um, we did a

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Speaker 1: You brought us treats. I recall you had been to um,

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Speaker 1: some sort of favorite grocery store of yours, and you

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Speaker 1: brought us some train gets, some treats, you know, in

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Speaker 1: a live studio setting. How it happened? What happeny? They

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Speaker 1: were hip hop snacks. But it wasn't a favorite grocery store.

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Speaker 1: It was a convenience store that I bought the treats

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Speaker 1: I know if you guys remember, yeah, do you remember that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You did come on the pandemic. Um. I think it

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Speaker 1: was Clayvon and Colleen was in the mix and we

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Speaker 1: had no agenda. It was the most formless podcast that was.

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Speaker 1: That was me in his Flue Game Flu podcast. Not

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Speaker 1: not my finest hour, that's for sure, yea. Um, so

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Speaker 1: happy to have you here, Mina, And we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a great show today. Um. Coming up later on, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take you inside the minds the minds of various

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Speaker 1: their inner thoughts, the inner monologue, the stuff that you

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Speaker 1: don't want you to hear. They don't want their teammates

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Speaker 1: we get to that, I mean, I wanted to touch

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Speaker 1: base quickly with you on something based off our last podcast.

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Speaker 1: We have, like a a conversation I really enjoyed, which

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Speaker 1: Gregg was coming from this angle. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and what they could be doing this season.

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Speaker 1: Um And I think you're the perfect person to ask

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Speaker 1: You got to enjoy the Super Bowl forty eight win.

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Speaker 1: You've mixed in plenty of heartbreak and disappointment in the

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Speaker 1: MLB and I don't I'm not telling. I'm not breaking

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Speaker 1: Where do you come down on this, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like you're qualified uniquely on some level. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: for that. Mariner's Recap just barely enjoyed that yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think we're batting one, so that's does everybody else? Yeah? True, true,

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Speaker 1: I actually think the cs are a good advantage point

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Speaker 1: We ranked defenses last week that that felt pretty bottom

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Speaker 1: of the barrel. That's that's good, just good rankings. The

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Speaker 1: Mina Kim Show featuring Lonny by the Way, Oh Yeah

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Speaker 1: featuring Linny um Erica tamp Post reports via the producer's

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Speaker 1: Share that Bruce Arians is from Paterson, New Jersey, but

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Speaker 1: he grew up in York, Pennsylvania, home of alternative Rocks,

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Speaker 1: Stalwart Live. So the most famous person to come out

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Speaker 1: of York, you decide, I go okay, I am Lightning Crashes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lightning Crash and I are like Secret Live,

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Speaker 1: not even secret overt live. Fans, Wait, is there another song?

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Speaker 1: What's what's another song that he's done? Uh? All over

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Speaker 1: you selling the drama? The Dolphins Cry? I mean We're

437
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Speaker 1: Dolphins Cry is great? What's the one that you and

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Speaker 1: I um started to love that no one else knows?

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Speaker 1: We go Deep, We go deep, cuts off mental jewelry

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins Cry would be a great money I

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Speaker 1: football outro, Like you know, I maybe it was really clever,

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Speaker 1: like references just whenever Lightning crashes For the Chargers too,

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Speaker 1: it's always don't confuse live though with the band that

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Speaker 1: did or else Dan Market very upset. You know that stummies.

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Speaker 1: Those are feelings, all right, Let's get into an inner monologue,

446
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Speaker 1: inner thoughts that people in the NFL are afraid to

447
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Speaker 1: share with anyone but themselves. I'll get things going, and

448
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Speaker 1: I will. I'm gonna take you inside the mind of

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas raider Is general manager Mike Mayock. Here we go.

450
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: I feel that I'm under an alarming amount of pressure

451
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Speaker 1: that Alex Leatherwood pick. I kind of wish I had

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Speaker 1: that one back. People are pretty mean to me about that. Oh.

453
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Speaker 1: When I saw John that night in the break room,

454
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Speaker 1: he said, you outsmarted everybody again. Mikey, what was he

455
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Speaker 1: messing with me? You kind of set it through gritted teeth?

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Speaker 1: Is that how he always talks? I need to watch

457
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Speaker 1: one of those Corona commercials to be sure, like us

458
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Speaker 1: a beer focus, Mike Leatherwood, It'll be fine. Need some

459
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Speaker 1: of these other draft picks to help me out, though,

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Speaker 1: rugs are Net Jacobs and Abraham. That'll have to those

461
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Speaker 1: guy is. Last year peril was like thinking, so stupid

462
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Speaker 1: John is a tenure contract. They're gonna come for me

463
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Speaker 1: if these guys don't improve. I wonder if I film

464
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Speaker 1: network would give me my whole job, Daniel Jeremy Jack,

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Speaker 1: I'm hungry, can give a taco mm hmmm. A lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure from Mike. We're out of the mind. We're

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Speaker 1: out of his mind. Were we also right? I was

468
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Speaker 1: just gonna wait, you can do it anyway. You're fine,

469
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Speaker 1: You're fine, You're fine, You're the guest. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we've done this enough. We all know what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna turn your Yeah. I do like the idea of

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Speaker 1: Mike Mayak as a as like this self doubting guy,

473
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Speaker 1: because he never gives off that impressions whatsoever, but there

474
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Speaker 1: has to be a little bit of doubt creeping. And

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Speaker 1: I mean you do you do feel for him as

476
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Speaker 1: a human because he knows how like amazing this opportunity was,

477
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Speaker 1: like it was perfect for It's not like it's a

478
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Speaker 1: kid getting picked out of the stands to like beyond

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Speaker 1: the team, but it's about as close as you'll probably

480
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Speaker 1: get in in the NFL that it's it's virtually on precedent,

481
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Speaker 1: and he knows that this year matters, and they've they've

482
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Speaker 1: had so many draft picks over the last three or

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Speaker 1: four years, Like they did that part right. Everyone says,

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Speaker 1: get a million draft picks, take a million swings, and

485
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Speaker 1: they've they did the drect The team is absolutely in

486
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Speaker 1: his image, and John Gruden's history will indicate that he

487
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Speaker 1: will absolutely use Mayak as a scapegoat if if it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. This is what I would say. I think

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Speaker 1: one problem is, even even if Leatherwood um is a

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Speaker 1: plus performer, your average fan is not going to be

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Speaker 1: tracking Leatherwood on Sundays the way they would if it was,

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Speaker 1: like you picked up this running back that goes for

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Speaker 1: like six hundred yards or a wide receiver blowing people

494
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Speaker 1: up a little bit difficult. It's so perfect that the

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Speaker 1: hated writer's re pick this year was a lineman named

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Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood. You just you couldn't make that up, all right?

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Speaker 1: Ended up being um. Who did they take after him?

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Speaker 1: The dB UM marriage? Yeah, Travan Merrick, it was. I

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Speaker 1: It's simply if they had switched to the picks, everybody

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Speaker 1: would have been cool with the draft. Like if they

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Speaker 1: had taken marriage before Weatherwood in the exact same spots,

502
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Speaker 1: they ended up with the same players. So it's kind

503
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Speaker 1: of stuck to his guns. He's like stuck to his

504
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Speaker 1: esoteric draft boards three years in a row, which does

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Speaker 1: indicate I don't think he's too worried about what what

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Speaker 1: people like us are saying. You're up next, take us

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Speaker 1: inside the mind of who, um I'll do von Miller first,

508
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Speaker 1: the probably no one expect the same level of performance.

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Speaker 1: I got the pressure, all right, speaking pressure, man, I'm

510
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Speaker 1: a favorite win comeback of the year. My defense is stacked.

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Speaker 1: It's been since the Super Bowl run. We are well coached.

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Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb's opposite me. We resigned Shelby Harris. Our secondary

513
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. This is one of the best secondaries I've

514
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Speaker 1: ever played with. We got Kyle Fuller in the mix.

515
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Speaker 1: We drafted that kid with the dad who everyone's excited about.

516
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Speaker 1: But you guys know, we're not win with Drew lock.

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Speaker 1: Every day I practice, I gotta watch that guy throw

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Speaker 1: passes that I know our defense with intercept. So Aaron,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening, whatever it takes, get out here, man.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go out like this. I just

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Speaker 1: can't ler out. I likely said. You guys know, and

522
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Speaker 1: then if you make a passion like you reach to

523
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Is all inside the mind of von Miller.

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Speaker 1: So now I have more questions. Okay, so it would

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Speaker 1: have been more like maybe I should text Daron. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's sort of an aquaman skill set potentially. You know,

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Speaker 1: if I had written it, I would have thought up

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Speaker 1: this through a little bit. No, No, that I man, Matt,

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Speaker 1: Where where do they if they ever if they ever

530
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Speaker 1: ever ever found a way to get Rogers there? Like

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Speaker 1: where did they come down? When you like put together

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Speaker 1: the top teams in the NFC? Are they right behind

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs too? That ever happened depends who they gave up.

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Speaker 1: Depends like if they happened to give up like Bradley

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Speaker 1: Chub and Jerry Judy and someone else, then maybe that

536
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Speaker 1: would change something. But no, I would think I would

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Speaker 1: put them number one. I mean I would even because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was you that said this.

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Speaker 1: Meaning last week, it's like there's like a lot of

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Speaker 1: rosters better than the Chiefs. It's like they just have

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes like the Chiefs do not Like if the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs were given Kirk Cousins, They've got like the twelve

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Speaker 1: best roster in the league. You know, So if you

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Speaker 1: put Aaron Rodgers on the Broncos, I like where did

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Speaker 1: your rank the Broncos in your defense rankings, it's gotta

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Speaker 1: they've got to be top five. Had them at three

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Speaker 1: and I was, But defense is incredibly stacked, and so

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the number three defense and some and some

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Speaker 1: good parts around them. I think they might be the favorite.

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Speaker 1: You're right, the von Mill like people on the like

551
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Speaker 1: veterans on the Broncos have to be actually feeling this,

552
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Speaker 1: like I don't think people if there's like a thing

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Speaker 1: that I can convey about NFL players that maybe they

554
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Speaker 1: don't express publicly. It's how sick defensive players get of

555
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: playing with quarterbacks like privately, those are the like it

556
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: wears on you. And how many short fields do you

557
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Speaker 1: deal with when you have a quarterbacks thrown an interception

558
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Speaker 1: on your own fifteen? You know, at least Teddy is

559
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Speaker 1: more likable. They'll they'll at least like like them in

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Speaker 1: the locker room. You know, I forgot about I forgot

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Speaker 1: to mention Teddy. Don't don't we having having We've had

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Speaker 1: a few ted talks recently that have kind of been

563
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Speaker 1: a little bit it's gotten a little salty. Uh, Greg,

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Speaker 1: You're okay, I think I went too long. I'm realizing

565
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Speaker 1: now all right, here we go. Ah, this is inside

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Speaker 1: the mind of Urban Meyer. Oh boy, I got this.

567
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm not Ship Kelly, I'm not Nick Saban jumping to

568
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Speaker 1: the n c A at the first sign of treble.

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Speaker 1: Who do these people think they're dealing with? So what

570
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Speaker 1: if I hired a racist strength coach? What am I

571
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Speaker 1: zip recruiter? So what if I played traffics at the

572
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Speaker 1: end at wide receiver in many camp? There's no tackling

573
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Speaker 1: new nim Rods and big deal. If I want to

574
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Speaker 1: let Timmy have his little tight end fantasy camp with us,

575
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Speaker 1: I could play Trevor Lawrence's painting brother at h pack

576
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Speaker 1: and we would steamroll this division. Carson Wentz, Please, he

577
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Speaker 1: couldn't have started at North Dakota State last year the Titans.

578
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Speaker 1: The Titans are three offensive players and Mike Brabel's haircut.

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Speaker 1: That's the Sexans are right? Oh? I like that Easter

580
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Speaker 1: b guy. Still, I got this. I've got my national

581
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Speaker 1: media friends in my back pocket. We got Fox, we

582
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Speaker 1: got NFL network. I've got less media down here than

583
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: I've gotten Columbus. I've got Joe Cullen, that guy who

584
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: was naked in the Wendy's drive through running my defense.

585
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I've gotta I've gotta change offensive football with my beautiful

586
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Speaker 1: Trevor and my cutting edge play color um Darryl Bevil.

587
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: All I need is to schedule some nonconference cupcakes in

588
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: September and we'll be top five in the coaches poll

589
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: before you know it. I've got this man. That man

590
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Speaker 1: is not at a loss for confidence internally at least

591
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: rods on people. That's not that's sharp cutting, totally clear

592
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Speaker 1: on what the NFL schedule is, but you know, listen

593
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Speaker 1: in time, in time, not wrong about the division Urban, Yeah,

594
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: just something about just something about that he's so on

595
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Speaker 1: my radar and the interviews he has with the with

596
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Speaker 1: the media members who are all buddies with them and

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Speaker 1: they're on my radar. He just feels like thinks he's

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Speaker 1: above the rest of it. I'm not. No, We're gonna

599
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Speaker 1: find out. He's got to put up results and he's

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Speaker 1: got the kids. I mean, who else, Like, no one

601
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Speaker 1: has criticized these hires. No one's criticize Well, maybe people

602
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Speaker 1: are starting to criticize it. But it's like, though, like

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Speaker 1: I I now, for a lot of reasons, want to

604
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: watch the Jaguars where I, you know, strongly avoided them.

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Speaker 1: There's just like a lot of belief and maybe he

606
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Speaker 1: there's a there's a total chance that he's gonna you know,

607
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Speaker 1: be good and make them nine and seven right away.

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Speaker 1: But I guess I'm not just like cashing in that's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, this will work out. This could be a

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Speaker 1: total fiasco. I think I think that's probably I don't

611
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that are just assuming

612
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Speaker 1: they're gonna take off now that this could definitely I

613
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Speaker 1: will give him credit for this that he he handled

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Speaker 1: this beautifully from a timing standpoint. You know, he's the

615
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Speaker 1: celebrated college coach. He makes a ton of money, uh,

616
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Speaker 1: doing TV, and then he got this perfect opportunity that's

617
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Speaker 1: franchise that backed up the brain struck for this generational

618
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Speaker 1: quarterback at number one overall. So he gets that and

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Speaker 1: he gets full power. It seems like, uh, to set

620
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Speaker 1: things up the way he wants. He could even do

621
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Speaker 1: things like signed Tim Tebow because he likes him and

622
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Speaker 1: wants to do His brow is solid, like he's set up. Well,

623
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Speaker 1: now you have to produce though, this is the national

624
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Speaker 1: football I mean, if they had to three win seasons.

625
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: I could also see him, you know, hitting the road.

626
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: He's not someone that's like, hey, let me stay stick

627
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: around for seven or eight years in places. So it's

628
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Speaker 1: like when Reggie busch Um quit our digital television program

629
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Speaker 1: and headed back to Fox. A similar situation to work

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Speaker 1: with Urban Meyer. M Mark, you're buddy, all right, I

631
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Speaker 1: um am going to go inside the mind of Brown's

632
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Speaker 1: general manager Andrew Barry Music. Please, I carry secrets things

633
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Speaker 1: nobody else could know. A trade on the table O'Dell

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Speaker 1: to New England for a second rounder in the exclusive

635
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Speaker 1: rights to special assistant Ernie Adams. Ernie, he is not

636
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: any more retired than Tom Brady. We're giving him his

637
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: old office back the bunker he's slept in from nine

638
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: one to right here in Cleveland. Mind exercise seven hundred

639
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: and seventy seven times five hundred and fifty five is

640
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: four D and thirty one thousand, two d and thirty five.

641
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: There's just things that nobody knows. Kevin Stefanski born May

642
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: How we were introduced to each other in the year

643
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: two thousand, right after I quietly saw the y two

644
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: K bug for the Clinton White House at age thirteen,

645
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Stefanski and I were put into that special ops program

646
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: for gifted minds, a lot of crazy ship astral projection

647
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: remote viewing. They kept us hidden away in those caverns

648
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: under Arlington Cemetery. We watch football obsessively in our downtime

649
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: cut ups old film. That's how we met Ernie at

650
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: He was doing some really dark stuff for the Navy.

651
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: People think the Browns just settled on Stefanski. I mean,

652
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: come on, this was all pre planned. Paul D. Podesta,

653
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: a baseball man, just crosses over to the NFL. Everyone

654
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: buys it, makes fun of him. People want simple answers.

655
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: Loan gunman us alone in the universe. This goes so

656
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: much deeper than people know. They have no idea what

657
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns really are, why they went away, why

658
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: they came back, and why they're rising again at this

659
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: very hour. Barry out himself. I always thought the Native

660
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: American flute was something that was just inside your mind.

661
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Mark that so imagine when you're up at three thirty

662
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: in the morning. But I guess Andrew Barry as well. Yeah, Kindred.

663
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: It's it's surprising because you think of Barry as this

664
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: like analytics guy, you know, very you know Harvard educated, right,

665
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: I believe Um, But no, like he it's not just

666
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: thought about the numbers, it's about you know, conspiracy theories

667
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: for him. He kind of made him a shaman or

668
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Um, Big Belichick put Ernie Adams on

669
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: the on the trade block like before he retired. Well,

670
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: now you know that's complex. Greg. I don't know anymore

671
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: than what I what I just told you. So does

672
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: the bloom? So I feel like Barry's right now the

673
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: guy like everybody loves him. Everybody loves his drafts. Everybody

674
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: loves with including me. I'm a big, big Berry fan.

675
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Do you think the bloom comes off the Rows if

676
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: they extend Baker and he struggles in the first year

677
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: A basic extension, yes, because I think that's that is

678
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: a lightning flashpoint that would get essentially everyone in the

679
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: media to go crazy on the Browns. So that would

680
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: be it. But I mean, you know, if he plays

681
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: great and then they extend him, I don't what do

682
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: you not extend him? If he has a great smart

683
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: That's why Barry keeps on pushing the right buttons. He's

684
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: not extending him. He's not going to make the Jared

685
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: goffmus ache right now he's gonna wait another year. Well,

686
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's actually sound the time where Golf

687
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: and you know Golf got his extension and who else

688
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: am I forgetting Wentz gets the extensive? Is the summer

689
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: right before camp. That is the time that you do this.

690
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: And it does sound like they're pretty interested in doing it.

691
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: And I don't see the big upside. What is the

692
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna do if you wallion dollars more year whatever? Do

693
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: it in week seven? Like if he gets off to

694
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: fast start, he's gonna take that money in week seven.

695
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: But let's see like a little bit of year two

696
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: with one game, no play action button. So far, I

697
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's a group think guy. We'll see all

698
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: right up next and to take you inside the mind.

699
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of which of Jared Goff, Oh, fresh start for

700
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: the j man. And this is exactly what I needed.

701
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: I forget about my one house in Malibu and the

702
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: other one near my parents place in Napa Valley. I'm

703
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Now. They may lakes all around this bitch,

704
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: But should I buy yeah or rent? Do the lions

705
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: really like me? Or did they bring me here just

706
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: to get those number? Ones. Wait a second, A damn second.

707
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: The Lions trade for me, so they could replace me

708
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: with a draft pick they got in the trade for me.

709
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: That's messed up, Dan Campbell want to do that to me?

710
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: That dude seems brat Holmes. That guy's a straight shooter,

711
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: upper management written all over. He wouldn't lie to me, right,

712
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: I gotta call my agent. Oh, I feel bad for

713
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: him after that. So listen, there's a lot of in

714
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: all of us. Uh. I'll only speak for myself, but

715
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's quite common. There's a level of

716
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: self doubt and all of us. And how could Yard

717
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: goff off this offseason? I think he's being set up

718
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: for a long term stay in Detroit. Now I'll say this,

719
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: I'll I'll set it up the football conversation like this,

720
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: this offensive line could be awesome, potentially are very good. Okay,

721
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: you go and you take um Seul with the first pick.

722
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: That's great. You got Frank Ragno, they just signed him

723
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: to the extension. Um Taylor Decker Um had a really

724
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: big season on the other side, and you got some

725
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: solid guard play last year. Like maybe it's a really

726
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: good line and that can help a quarterback and measurably

727
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: as we know, the uh skill players on the outside

728
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: a problem obviously unless somebody has a career year. But

729
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: is is there any chance a long winded question, double question, Assessler,

730
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: double question, Hey, any chance Jared Goff has a solid

731
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: season and b that he's their quarterback in two years?

732
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I think there's a chance. Yeah. Remember Anthony

733
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: Lynn is the coordinator. Uh yeah, Like he's not gonna

734
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: throw the ball much. He might he might throw like

735
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: four and eighty four times. I guess if they fall

736
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: behind in games, that will be tricky. But if he's

737
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: well protected, Like there's the bar is so low for

738
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: him now that if he has like an eighteen or

739
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: nineteen touchdown and ten interception with like seven yards per attempt,

740
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, oh wow, Jared Goff was better than

741
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: we thought and he's he's capable of that. I mean,

742
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: it was just last August, that mean, and I jumped

743
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: on the I don't know if you want to call

744
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: it a bandwagon, but the Lions something or other um

745
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: and they disappointed my expectations. And I don't think that

746
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: evenganizationally they're saying they're gonna be um blowing people away

747
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: this year, So I don't like to set up for

748
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Jared Goff a ton and I don't think they're thinking

749
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Jared Goff's to your second question, I think they begin

750
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: heat seeking a younger quarterback probably in the next draft.

751
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Do you think they should have taken the young quarterback

752
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: this year? Yes, I would have taken I would have

753
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: taken Justin Fields. But the Lion's Den, by the way,

754
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: it was like, it was weird how they basically decided

755
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: ahead of time and throw to the Eagles, apparently like

756
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: they were not going to take Dustin Fields no matter

757
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: what which is. We're just writing like they were trying

758
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: to trade up four sewell two four, and the Falcons

759
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. Supposedly. I mean, they tried to trade up,

760
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: and it made it sound pretty clear that it was

761
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: going to be for Sewel. They got him at seven.

762
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: That worked out. The non rebuilding Falcons was not interested

763
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: in trading down for a haul. Make it makes sense.

764
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Stop stop, I'll stop stop tweeting my sub tweet you

765
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: know whatever. Um yeah, Jared, Jared knows the score. I mean,

766
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: when you are publicly called trade draft kick clotter, I think,

767
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: um he he seems like a guy who would pay

768
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: attention to you. I don't know if he's kept that

769
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: golf course thing that he put in the back of

770
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: his house where he could where he could chip like

771
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: three yards below to it to his neighbors. Was already scene.

772
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: He wasn't hitting the hole, and I felt like a

773
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: horrible metaphor. I do know they've taken down the banana

774
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: public um posters of golf on the third Avenue promenade

775
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, but that's because I think all the

776
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: businesses have closed, so me and it isn't just totally

777
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: so when things go south and the lions, then mina

778
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: do when I try to put together the imagery, are

779
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you devoured by the expectations? Do the lions devour you?

780
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Do you starve inside the lines that when things go

781
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: poorly in the lines? Yeah? Well that isn't there talk

782
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: of an actual lion on the sidelines now, So maybe

783
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: you have a date with the live mascot. I liked,

784
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: I actually liked the cod chan high. I mean it's

785
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. It was a mistake. I mean,

786
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't the lions the lions themselves would become punchless and

787
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: less vicious, because that's what happens to That's what happened

788
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: to the actual Lions in the football season. So I

789
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: think you're, if you're a human, you probably just get

790
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: right out of there. Would you like that golf? You know,

791
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: had sort of the Hollywood production value that his song

792
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: changed midway through. I mean, Mina is worried about you

793
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: didn't write your things out. I mean we got song

794
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: changing changing. We could request songs didn't. Yeah, like in

795
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: high school or something. This is just a thousand podcasts

796
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: of faking it, you know. According to Dennis Dodd and

797
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, Matt Campbell of Iowa State was offered an

798
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: eight year deal worth sixty eight and a half million

799
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: dollars to leave the college ranks and take over the

800
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: Lions program from Matt Patricia. Um, that's weird, kind of weird,

801
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. First of all, guys got the same last name,

802
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: and then he's getting a seven million dollars seventy million

803
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: dollar offer, right and like the three I think three

804
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: last years was like Matt Campbell had the leverage to

805
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: get that kind of offer and you didn't take it.

806
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Kind of a weird time in Detroit Lions history. All right,

807
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: now you're up. Oh, okay, um, this one's a letta

808
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: be a little subversive. I think, ok well, I just

809
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: think you know, people call me a homer. I think

810
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: this is going to fly in the face of that

811
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. No one costs me a homer, really,

812
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: but you know, well, you know Miner's fans on Twitter. Okay,

813
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm waving my hand from you up there. It's okay,

814
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: it's me, Brian Schottenheimer. A punchline. So many jokes in Seattle,

815
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: so many memes, so many insults over the years. You

816
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: wanted me to throw the ball, I did. I throw

817
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: it on early downs at the highest rate in the NFL.

818
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: What more do you want from me? Yeah, our offense

819
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: sucked in the second half of the season, But where

820
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: are still throwing the ball? Well, like, let me correct that.

821
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: Somebody wasn't throwing the ball two open receivers underneath. He

822
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: was big game hunting. I'm not gonna name names. I'm

823
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: not gonna name names. Ussell Wilson, I didn't draft that

824
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. I didn't pick that center. Those guards. One

825
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: of the guards is okay, Damian Lewis. I think he'll

826
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: be good ure, it's not my fault, and yet here

827
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I am the subject of scorn and blame. A joke. Yeah,

828
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: my vibes are makes more sense in Florida, if you

829
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: know what, screw you, Seattle. I got six inches of

830
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: height now to work with. Shoddy is going to show

831
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: them that it wasn't my fault. The little internal pep

832
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: talk and I love yeah, you know, picturing like looking

833
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: in the mirror, like shirtless just pumping his fist. That

834
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: big gss connects to my um to my my conspiracy

835
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: theory that Russell Wilson partly put out all the trade

836
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: requests to distract everyone from his his self started m

837
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: v P campaign crashing off the tracks because of the

838
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: worst ten game stretch of his entire career, which for

839
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: whatever reason, he got like no blame for maybe from

840
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: some Seahawks fans like yourself. I mean, I think kind

841
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: of notice, but I feel like nationally was just like

842
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: their offensive line Stinx and Brian Shotton. Oh oh, they

843
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: stopped like trying to throw the ball. It's like now, Russell,

844
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: like it happens. I'm not that worried long term, but

845
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: that was the worst ten game stretch of his career,

846
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: he struggled. If anything, Schottenheimer showed flexibility because you just

847
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna get this guy that's the same offense

848
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: year after year, and he went for it last year.

849
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of did everything Russell Wilson asked for.

850
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: But I think we're just so I've never really even

851
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: heard any critique of Russell Wilson the quarterback on the

852
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: field ever. So it was sort of probably a mental

853
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: shift and adjustment that we could handle in season. And

854
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny to me, like there are the

855
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Baldies of the world and other people that really understand

856
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: the nuances of offensive line play and what's actually going

857
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: on in the trenches, and but you don't need to

858
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: be that person to see what was happening in points

859
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: with Seattle's offense last year. He just held the ball

860
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: too long and that was the big game hunting that

861
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: was internally his offensive coordinator was thinking about in his

862
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: mind shirtless with a giant cross like that. You didn't

863
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: have to be an expert to see that Russell Wilson

864
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: maybe was trying to do too much and that was

865
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: killing the team to time. The other thing I wanted

866
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: to say, but I would remembered if I had written

867
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: down my script that I didn't. Um is they played

868
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: the Ramps twice, they played Aaron Donald twice. You know,

869
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: I think we are like there, there's a bit of

870
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: a sample size issue in competition, uh, factoring into this? Alright, Greg,

871
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: you're all right, we're going to get inside the mind

872
00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: of Zach Taylor Beals. Oh yeah, that guy. I'm good enough.

873
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm smart enough, doggone it. People like me except for

874
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: that Mark Sessler character. What is this deal? Always wanting

875
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: to punch down on us poor Bengals because his Browns

876
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: have a little success. Well, whatever happened to Ohio unit community?

877
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: That's a thing. Why don't we both rise up and

878
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: take over these bullies in Pittsburgh and Baltimore? I mean, well,

879
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: what's not to like about this team? Jabbar Chase, Tee Higgins,

880
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon, Joey Burrow. I dare say that

881
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: group is better than the one in Cleveland, better than

882
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers, better than the Ravens in terms of offense.

883
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: And here I see how Mark say, how forgettable? I

884
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: am well over and over. Sorry if I like polos

885
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: instead of button downs, Mark, why don't you try winning

886
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: back to back games in the NFL with Ryan Finley

887
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: and Brandon Allen. That happen, It's gonna happen a lot more.

888
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Just you watch out, Mr Sessler. Oh no, I guess

889
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: that he does seem like a good dad on Instagram.

890
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's made a good He's made

891
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: a good case for how strong the roster is. So

892
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: where are the winds? Um? I? My thing with Zach

893
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: Taylor is this, I just don't understand. I don't understand

894
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: who he is at this point where two seasons in

895
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: he was hired to be kind of like a Sean

896
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: McVeigh Offshoot, Um, you have your quarterback now, like I

897
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: think there's they're bright skies ahead. But you know if

898
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: in year three you better produce so that the only

899
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: thing that going in his favors. The Bengals move about

900
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: with the speed of molasses when it comes to any

901
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: sort of coaching change. So he's probably safe until at

902
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: least twenty one. So do we get where do you

903
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: come down on me and the passing on sel for Jamach?

904
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: Are they gonna are they going to rue that decision?

905
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Or is Jamar Chase a transcendent talent and how upset

906
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: can you really get if that guy's a superstar. I

907
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: thought it was a defensible pick. I would have taken Suel,

908
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was like a wildly bad decision.

909
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: I actually thought the Dolphins should have gotten more criticism

910
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: for um not taking Sue. But I dared to say

911
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: on NFL a lot, this is a really great place

912
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: for me to air out all my Twitter grievances and

913
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: strong men whatever. I dared to say that the way

914
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: what I've said, I'm probably making it sound more reasonable

915
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: in my retelling of my own hot take. But I

916
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: said their most pressure in this organization is on Jonah

917
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: Williams in this offensive line, because the Bengals basically bet

918
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: on that group being good enough to keep Joey healthy.

919
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: And you know, the first week they get Daniel Hunter,

920
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: Cleil Mac and t J. Watter, the first three elite

921
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: pass rushers, and Bengels fans went crazy at me for

922
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: because apparently treating Riley Reef like Prime Lane Johnson is

923
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: a sin, and I don't I sorry. I think that

924
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: we will see very quickly if it was a mistake.

925
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: I worry about Jonah Williams health. I actually liked him

926
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: as a college prospect, but that is a big bet

927
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: on that dude, and he has not staying on the field,

928
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: So I I think it makes sense. I mean, I

929
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 1: think like a great wide receiver is maybe a little

930
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: less than a great left tackle. But you're betting that

931
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is and and another level above where Sue

932
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: will be like in terms of tackle ranking. And I

933
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: don't doubt that that Mike Brown, who's ultimately making these

934
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: influencing these decisions in and loves like big college names

935
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: and everything like that, is thinking let's keep Joe Burrow happy.

936
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: His contract negotiation is in a couple of years. The

937
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: last real quarterback that we had like sat out because

938
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play our with our franchise like that,

939
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: it's getting to at least for a team like the Bengals,

940
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: that there might be some NBA thinking like you do

941
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: with Gianna Janice, where it's like we gotta get people

942
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: around him that he likes and and keep him. And

943
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. The bars low here. You

944
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: can win six or seven games. If Joe Burrow, I

945
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: think he would have liked the idea. I will you

946
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: know come actual games too, but I hear you should

947
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: do Greg the Mike francessa move if you can't pronounce

948
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: the just uh Greek freak, Greek freak. I just don't

949
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: understand how people are still saying Giann. I know, sorry, Greg,

950
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: but I it's we say it all the time now.

951
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: The last name is because I probably never said his

952
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: name out loud. But you're you're also a football person.

953
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm on shows with people who talk about basketball for

954
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: a living and still do it. It blows my mind.

955
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: Quick sackt Taylor theory. He would be much more memorable

956
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: if he had a different haircut. Yes, he looks like

957
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 1: like me. He looks like every normal, very basic, weird,

958
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, white dude. So that's our That's basically been

959
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: our pre issue or our issue throughout is that he

960
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: looks he's got like a polo on. He just like

961
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: looks like he's about to hit like eighteen holes at

962
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: like the local municipal like not even a private like

963
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: private he's not going to Riviera with the pick in

964
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: the whole afternoon You've got. I mean, look at La

965
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Fleur in the same coaching tree with the eyebrows and

966
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: the skin. He glows the slick side part. And then

967
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 1: you've got Zach Taylor, who looks like a real turn

968
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: next to him. I mean, don't get it started on

969
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: the on the d C either, Captain Lou Albano, he's

970
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: gotta put rubber bands and grow out of the air

971
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: to be here to put his mark in the like.

972
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: All right, close this out, Mark sel, All right, we

973
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: are gonna be um looking into the rather mysterious mind

974
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: of Jack Easterby. Oh boy, hit it, Ricky careful here now, Mark,

975
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: I know what's this is his thoughts. Yeah, Jackie Baby,

976
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: we're feeling real good about this Texans team, a real

977
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: unique squad guided by something. We're feeling real good. Ti

978
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: Odd m hm. You know what might drive to seven

979
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: eleven today, pick up a treat, something special, something zesty,

980
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: a treat for Jackie Baby. Sometimes you feel like a nut,

981
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't. Almond Joy's got nuts mounds don't from

982
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: another angle. Fresh Baby Ruth, Fresh, butter finger Baby Ruth

983
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: and butter Finger Fresh guaranteed like the Texans. Baby, It's Friday, Friday,

984
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend.

985
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: Yesterday was Thursday. Today is Friday. We we we so excited,

986
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: were so excited Texans Baby, you can feel it in

987
00:55:52,600 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: the air. I love it. I love market because you're

988
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: a little bit older than your commercials aren't our commercial era.

989
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: But that felt I loved it. But Rebecca Black being

990
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Jackie used to be his favorite artist is something I'll

991
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: never be able to get out of my mind now, Like,

992
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: how did you end up on that set of reference?

993
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: I just want to just dive into your brain for

994
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: a careful I just want to know. I mean, this

995
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, we there. It's a touchy character

996
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: to to go into on the show, considering who we

997
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: work for, so I tried to keep it just sort

998
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: of those that go into the mind of the quiet storm,

999
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes don't come out. That's I mean, this

1000
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: wasn't too different than you know, we We've been into

1001
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: the mind of Mark quite a bit. Mina's not as experience,

1002
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: but I think like it felt in character with that.

1003
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: But I felt like this was as gentle and um

1004
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: forgiving an evaluation of of Mr Easterby and um, what's

1005
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: really going on inside? And it in now that I

1006
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: know this is what's going on inside like it makes

1007
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: a lot of sense what's happening in Houston. It's like

1008
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: a nicer way of viewing all the events that are

1009
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: going If if the secrets Bengali behind the scenes for

1010
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans was a raving lunatic um, that would

1011
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: explain a lot. He's a sumple man who's looking forward

1012
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: to the weekend of audio. That's the best media Jack

1013
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: Easterby has gotten. I hope to Texas feel that way.

1014
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, I'm trying to recent favor. Sure, alright,

1015
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: let's let's exit these minds. It's it's it's time to

1016
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: It was a way, all right, Mina, you said it all.

1017
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: He came on and you said it all. Only thank

1018
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: you so much? Did I I think you did. I

1019
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: think you had a really again, rock solid appearance. I

1020
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: stretched back at my my my haters perceived in real

1021
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: Well use it anyway you need to. I think that

1022
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: was a good, good way to operate. Yeah, and you

1023
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: know where to find me in all over ESPN and

1024
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: check out our podcast which is great, and we'll be back.

1025
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: Well we got the network show, see we aren't. We're

1026
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: on TV. Two men it around the NFL broadcast Friday

1027
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: at a new earlier time, right after Good Morning Football.

1028
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: How about that. I think that's a solid time slot,

1029
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that goes. Um, So check that

1030
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: out Friday and then we'll be back with another weekest shows.

1031
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: I have to go pick up my son at preschool,

1032
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: so I gotta go that. I have to say it,

1033
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: I have to I have to go. We're gonna sign off.

1034
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan Hanson signing off for widestormed the old boss,

1035
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: Rookie Hollywood, behind the virtual glab and the great need

1036
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 1: at time until Friday, keep the call.