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Speaker 1: twenty of twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode number twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. We're live
Speaker 1: from the Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Very
Speaker 1: happy to be back home from training camp at Oxnard. Uh.
Speaker 1: Cowboys having their first practice here at the Ford Center.
Speaker 1: They are on the field right now going through their routine.
Speaker 1: And I got my guys here, Nick and Dave joining me.
Speaker 1: Amber's out today, but we'll carry on anyway. We got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, particularly we will get into
Speaker 1: Cowboys second preseason game. Dave what I'm just saying. Dave's
Speaker 1: right there, I said, he said, guys, I know I
Speaker 1: was watching anyway. People are because because we get to
Speaker 1: watch practice, We're gonna get to watch practice. Let's have
Speaker 1: a little bit of that is a little treat for
Speaker 1: you guys as we do the show today, you'll be
Speaker 1: able to have a quick look in at what's happening
Speaker 1: here on the field. We're gonna spend some time talking
Speaker 1: though about the Cowboys second preseason game where they faced
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. They gotta win fourteen to ten.
Speaker 1: There was some very good things we saw during that game.
Speaker 1: We're gonna point those out and talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about those. There are also some not so good moments
Speaker 1: that I also want to throw out and get your
Speaker 1: opinions on. Before we do that, though, let's talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about injuries. This injury list is is quite expansive. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's some guys that are kind of working back in,
Speaker 1: some guys still out. Why don't you guys go through
Speaker 1: and talk to me a little bit about some of
Speaker 1: the injuries and kind of where everybody stands with those.
Speaker 1: It's long, I don't know, I mean, really, we could
Speaker 1: just start with who is practicing at this point. It's
Speaker 1: not that bad. Tyrant Smith is limited today. He the
Speaker 1: dreaded back tweak. We know he didn't go to Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said he's still dealing with that. He's out
Speaker 1: there in uniform so much like a lot of these
Speaker 1: I don't think it's something that's super serious, but he's
Speaker 1: dealing with the back. Zach Martin's still dealing with the back.
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper still dealing with his foot. Tyrone Crawford and
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence are back to practice today, but they're going
Speaker 1: to be very limited because this is their first work
Speaker 1: of the year. But positive step that positive step. Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin and Dalton Schultz are both out. Um who else
Speaker 1: am I missing? Noah Brown and Byron Jones are still
Speaker 1: his PP. Shaun Lee is back. I don't expect that
Speaker 1: he's gonna do a ton, but he did come into practice.
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath is limited. He did not play on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank as to what his exact injury was.
Speaker 1: But again, these this is for the most part, all
Speaker 1: training camp. You know, knocks and bruises. Being cautious with guys.
Speaker 1: I think I don't wanna knock on wood, but I
Speaker 1: think Robert Quinn is like the only guy that's dealing
Speaker 1: with a you know, aside from Louke Gifford, which we
Speaker 1: already knew that, but those two are like the severe
Speaker 1: injuries among that's you know what we didn't get an
Speaker 1: update on him today. It's a long list, man, It's
Speaker 1: a very long play the game, right, I mean not
Speaker 1: even a play, it was a kickoff. Yeah, linebacker Chris Covington.
Speaker 1: That's something that we need to check in on because
Speaker 1: we updated every single injury this morning with Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: But the you know, sixth string linebacker got lost in
Speaker 1: the shuffle. I guess. Talk to me a little bit
Speaker 1: about Byron Jones and Noah Brown. These are two guys
Speaker 1: that haven't practiced yet. Obviously, when you see couple guys
Speaker 1: now in Tyrone Crawford and Tank Lawrence coming back, you
Speaker 1: kind of started looking like, Okay, when are they going
Speaker 1: to be back? Talk to me about those two guys particularly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually asked Jason for an update on both of them,
Speaker 1: because they're not they're not off of pup like Tyrone
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus are. Um. Jason said that Byron is still
Speaker 1: on schedule. He's right where he's supposed to be. Obviously.
Speaker 1: You know, it feels like there's a long time to
Speaker 1: the season, but it's really they got five practices until
Speaker 1: it's time to start game planning for the Giants, so
Speaker 1: we'll see. It doesn't sound like it's gonna be this week,
Speaker 1: maybe next and then Noah Brown trying to read between
Speaker 1: the lines. I wonder, I wonder what his progress is.
Speaker 1: Jason said, he's still a little bit away. So now
Speaker 1: you now maybe you wonder if he's gonna not be
Speaker 1: available at the outside of the season. But that's the
Speaker 1: little premature, you know. And the thing about Noah we
Speaker 1: we've talked about him being a guy that you know
Speaker 1: will probably make the team. They like him that much.
Speaker 1: The one thing about about him is that you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's obviously a big, strong guy. They don't have
Speaker 1: another guy that's in this mix of the John Vay
Speaker 1: Johnson's and Reggie Davis or Cedric Wilson. He's pretty pretty
Speaker 1: much the biggest guy there, Cedric Wilson. But there's an
Speaker 1: important note. If you're watching Cedric Wilson out there doing
Speaker 1: um receiver drills, which obviously he's been in the concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: So that's there's nobody like Noah Brown. Though's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, that there's nobody that does what he
Speaker 1: does or what they want him to do. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he does it well or extremely well. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because they want him to be this tied end and
Speaker 1: block all the time, and he's really not. He's just
Speaker 1: a big receiver. But you know, he's getting there, and
Speaker 1: I think that they like him for a reason. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know who's competing with him
Speaker 1: to say we're gonna take You're gonna be the big
Speaker 1: receiver on this team. You know who is that they don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll maybe Cedric, Yeah, which that is. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: And if you remember, Noah started the season on ir
Speaker 1: last year and it kept them from having to make
Speaker 1: a decision about him. So if he is unavailable at
Speaker 1: the start of the season, it could be the same
Speaker 1: thing all over again. And I think it would be
Speaker 1: pup this year because he didn't even mix into practice
Speaker 1: this year, So again it's premature, but I do wonder
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with him if he can't mix
Speaker 1: into practice before they have to cut their roster down.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go on. Let's move on to a
Speaker 1: little bit of blanket coverage. I have a statement for
Speaker 1: you guys. It's just gonna be one statement today, you guys,
Speaker 1: fill in the blank. Here's the statement. Jerry joked after
Speaker 1: Pollard's performance on Saturday. Zeke Who, Zeke's agent said it
Speaker 1: was as he said, he thought it was disrespectful. This
Speaker 1: has blank impact on negotiations, Dave none. It has like
Speaker 1: absolutely no impact on negotiations, which I feel a lot
Speaker 1: of different types of way about this. First of all,
Speaker 1: let's provide some context to the situation, because within ten
Speaker 1: seconds of the Zeke Who joke, he said, obviously I'm
Speaker 1: three seconds like it was quick. I'm very quick. I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: We all love Zeke. We know what he does for
Speaker 1: this team. I would love to have him and Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard in the backfield at the same time. Very complimentary stuff.
Speaker 1: But as Jerry, first of all, he loves that type
Speaker 1: of stores. And then he was evan it was too
Speaker 1: good to pass up. It was a great opportunity at
Speaker 1: a joke. He winked at the camera after he said it. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, whatever, like full context, it's not a
Speaker 1: big deal. Second of all, Okay, Zeke, you feel disrespected
Speaker 1: like Jerry probably doesn't appreciate that you haven't been at
Speaker 1: work for the last three weeks, Like big big deal.
Speaker 1: I don't care, like I it's and I guarantee you
Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't care either. And thirdly, and lastly, if a
Speaker 1: deal gets done, or when a deal gets done, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be water so far into the But do you
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna care if they agree on this new
Speaker 1: big deal and he's back in the fold. Oh, but
Speaker 1: you made a half hearted, light hearted joke about me
Speaker 1: two weeks. Nobody's gonna care. It's nothing. I'll take the
Speaker 1: next one. Yeah, it's been all the talk of social
Speaker 1: media for three days. I'm sick of hearing. And honestly,
Speaker 1: the only reason I brought it up is really because
Speaker 1: I wanted to give context because we were standing there.
Speaker 1: I know I was standing there. I think Dave, you
Speaker 1: were standing there. Yeah, And I do think sometimes you
Speaker 1: hear these things how they reported, they'll kind of says
Speaker 1: in small italics, he was joking, but it in the
Speaker 1: big headline. Everybody read the headline and that's what they knew,
Speaker 1: and so a lot of people don't know that it
Speaker 1: was really it really was just one of those lighthearted
Speaker 1: moments that Jerry's having with the media, which he has
Speaker 1: quite frankly a lot of the time. Man, And just
Speaker 1: get over it. If you're disrespected, I mean it sounds
Speaker 1: like the offer that they threw out there was pretty
Speaker 1: disrespectful as well, the first offer that they threw out there.
Speaker 1: So that zis camp. So, I mean, you know, it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's been happening. I completely I completely agree
Speaker 1: with the guy's strategy. Honestly, he does deserve to be
Speaker 1: paid better, and if that's what it takes to get it,
Speaker 1: good for him. But he is in breach of contract
Speaker 1: with two years left on his deal. Like I doubt
Speaker 1: Stephen and Jerry Jones genuinely appreciate what he's doing. So great,
Speaker 1: everybody feels disrespected. Cool, don't care. All right, here's we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. I want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the game I've noted about. I don't know. They're about
Speaker 1: five different things I noted from the game that I
Speaker 1: considered to be good moments in the game, or good
Speaker 1: or players I wanted to point out. And then they
Speaker 1: are roughly about four things I wanted to point out
Speaker 1: that weren't so good, and we'll talk about each one.
Speaker 1: Cowboys get the win fourteen ten. The first thing I
Speaker 1: noticed m and I want to point it out and
Speaker 1: talk about is Tony Pollard. He has five carries forty
Speaker 1: two yards and a touchdown. Uh. In my opinion, that
Speaker 1: touchdown run was unique in the way that it wasn't
Speaker 1: just what we had heard of him from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of him being a guy that can kind of take
Speaker 1: a run and use his speed to being something that happened.
Speaker 1: He actually had to finish that run with some power,
Speaker 1: and he did and he got into the end zone.
Speaker 1: That all being said, have you seen anything from him
Speaker 1: that even makes you think that there's a possibility he
Speaker 1: could be in every down back in the NFL? Nick Um, Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the fact that Zeke's not here and he's the
Speaker 1: number one back and he's looked really good relatively speaking,
Speaker 1: so he will be the number one back and if
Speaker 1: you know, if he's if Zeke's not here, and he
Speaker 1: showed it with what you're asking and with these runs there.
Speaker 1: The touchdown run to me reminded me and and again
Speaker 1: let's be I mean, I'm gonna put it in some
Speaker 1: context here, Bud. He reminded me of him at Smith
Speaker 1: the way that he was he was loaded the I
Speaker 1: like how you started it, I'm gonna put that in context. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: the was like Emmett Smith in that very low center
Speaker 1: of gravity. He's you know, he's obviously when you're not
Speaker 1: that tall, you're going you're going to be But he stayed,
Speaker 1: his balance was there. It was it was that hit
Speaker 1: like three yards off the line of scrimmage, and then
Speaker 1: he stays and then he goes and he finishes the run.
Speaker 1: But that to me, I'm not saying he's Emmitt Smith
Speaker 1: at all, because he's not really built like it. But
Speaker 1: the run was powerful with a low center of gravity
Speaker 1: that I thought was good. I thought I was being
Speaker 1: bold because I compared I've compared Pollard's drive in that
Speaker 1: game to what Zeke did against Seattle in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Like it just felt familiar in the sense of like
Speaker 1: putting everybody in the game on notice, although you have
Speaker 1: to point out that he did it against the Rams backups,
Speaker 1: like not really nobody of consequence was in that game
Speaker 1: for LA. I don't want to say, like it was
Speaker 1: very impressive. I wrote a whole story about it. I
Speaker 1: was blown away, and even you know, Brian brought us
Speaker 1: went through and watched the tape and the sack that
Speaker 1: they gave up on Dak wasn't all Pollard's fallow Jason
Speaker 1: Witten had a hand in that. So all of that consider,
Speaker 1: like he looked fantastic in every aspect of the game. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't want to doubt or hate on the guy,
Speaker 1: but like, I'm not convinced that that means he's gonna
Speaker 1: be your every down guy. And I if Zeke's not here,
Speaker 1: I still don't think that'll be the case. I think
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris is here for a reason, especially if Zeke
Speaker 1: doesn't show up, and I just think there will be
Speaker 1: some divvying there. I Mean, these guys know what they
Speaker 1: have in Morris, and there's a reason that he's kind
Speaker 1: of quietly been ramping up as time goes, and if
Speaker 1: Zeke's not here when the regular season starts, I think
Speaker 1: it'll be some type of balance between the two. The
Speaker 1: one thing I will say, though, is I don't think
Speaker 1: he's just a third down back. I think for sure
Speaker 1: you can give him series because the one thing we've
Speaker 1: that at least I think i've noticed, is he is
Speaker 1: he's not afraid, and he's not bad at running between
Speaker 1: the tackles. A lot of the runs, most of the
Speaker 1: runs that we've seen him have here in the preseason,
Speaker 1: so far, I've been between the tackles, and the one
Speaker 1: thing I like about him when he's running in there is,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you see a guy when he's running
Speaker 1: between the tackle, he just kind of bows his way through.
Speaker 1: He has a way of kind of just figuring out
Speaker 1: where the little creases are and he kind of just
Speaker 1: moves within them to try to get as much as
Speaker 1: he can get. Yeah, it's a different way maybe than
Speaker 1: you have than a bruising type back. But the point
Speaker 1: is he's been pretty effective at it, and so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't discount his ability to be able to work within
Speaker 1: the tackles. And that makes him in every down back,
Speaker 1: even though he's not taking every carry in the game,
Speaker 1: he is a back that can play on any down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big difference, and the big question with backs like
Speaker 1: that is is you know, he's done it for one
Speaker 1: drive in each game. Let's see what happens in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, fourth quarter when you know these these hits start,
Speaker 1: you know, piling up a little bit. But he's done
Speaker 1: everything that they've given him so far. He's passed with
Speaker 1: flying colors. So but that's my thing too, is I
Speaker 1: don't expect him to be the guy all three, whether
Speaker 1: it's Zeke or Alfred Morris or whatever. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: expect him to put that kind of load on him,
Speaker 1: but there's no based on what we've seen through training
Speaker 1: camp in two preseason games, there's no way he shouldn't
Speaker 1: be getting a healthy percentage of the workload from the
Speaker 1: from the get you know, I mean, shoot, we already
Speaker 1: compared him to Emmett and Zeke, So just throw Kamara
Speaker 1: back out there too, Like, no, right, if the Saints
Speaker 1: can get Alvin Kamara that involved while they still have
Speaker 1: mark Ingram, then there has to be a way to
Speaker 1: use this guy. It's clearly awesome. You know. It was
Speaker 1: back in the three yard line. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what I told Derek, what if he takes it to
Speaker 1: the house right here ninety seven yards? And if that
Speaker 1: was the case, we would be comparing him to Tony Dorsett. So,
Speaker 1: you know, let's just do the whole thing. Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer's run over someone like Marion Barber. You'll put him
Speaker 1: in the Hall already, all right, he's gonna Sorry, I
Speaker 1: wonder if he's gonna keep one in thirty six when
Speaker 1: he makes the team. Yeah, I don't like thirty six
Speaker 1: I don't need it, but maybe I will though, you know,
Speaker 1: like we said this the other day, Kamara, like forty
Speaker 1: one is lame, but Kamara made it cool, So maybe
Speaker 1: he can make thirty six. And forty one still doesn't
Speaker 1: match for his kind of skill for Kamara, it doesn't
Speaker 1: match to me, like I see in him. It's just
Speaker 1: but it looks cool, like they call him AK forty one,
Speaker 1: like it's way cooler than you would have thought. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'd rather I'd rather get to a number.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a thirty six in NFL
Speaker 1: history that's been and like a real standout running back.
Speaker 1: Probably I'm sure there's been one. I'm sure there's been one,
Speaker 1: but I just can't think. I just feel like he's
Speaker 1: going to move into the twenties win this Roger is
Speaker 1: a good thirty six. Ever, Like I mean, I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I'm trying to I don't want to think answered.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's true. I don't know,
Speaker 1: baby not, I don't know. All right, let's go and
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, we have
Speaker 1: a couple others. We want to get to some good
Speaker 1: things that happened in this game, Cowboys get the fourteen
Speaker 1: ten win on the road out in Honolulu. We're back
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Speaker 1: to talk in Cowboys. Welcome back here. Well, oh, we're
Speaker 1: live here at Starr in Frisco at Fort Center, Cowboys
Speaker 1: are having practice this morning and we're here alive. The
Speaker 1: fans are out they're watching practice. If you want to
Speaker 1: come out and check out a practice, make sure you
Speaker 1: get out here. It will be tomorrow and Thursday. That
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Speaker 1: will be another practice next week. It'll be two practices
Speaker 1: next week and they'll be at night. So if your
Speaker 1: kids are back at school, you want to get out here.
Speaker 1: After the kids are out of school. I think it's
Speaker 1: at five forty five on next Monday and Tuesday, So
Speaker 1: make sure you give that a shot. Try and get
Speaker 1: out here to the Star in Frisco Ford Center. That's
Speaker 1: where everything will be happening. It's a crazy thing, and
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, but Jason Garrett, you know it's
Speaker 1: like it's still training camp. But there's four more practices
Speaker 1: after this because they play a Thursday game next week.
Speaker 1: We're already almost halfway through this week. Like I'm kind
Speaker 1: of ready. I'm ready for some real football. That doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you're ready or not. It's coming. It's like
Speaker 1: fifteen days away. Think about it. This weekend. College football
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Speaker 1: until February. Love it. That's the time of the year.
Speaker 1: So excited. All right, Let's move on a couple other
Speaker 1: good things that happened in that game. Dak Prescott win
Speaker 1: five or five or sixty four yards. If you take
Speaker 1: his first two games in the preseason, he's gone nine
Speaker 1: for nine. He has not had an incompletion. He's had
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards total. What you've seen from Dak during
Speaker 1: the preseason, as well as what you saw from him
Speaker 1: during training camp, do you think that you've seen enough
Speaker 1: growth in him where you think he is ready to
Speaker 1: assume the mantle of being the best thing that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do. Let's assume for a second that Dak is
Speaker 1: not here. Is he ready to be that kind of guy?
Speaker 1: Zeke is not here? I'm sorry, Zeke is not here.
Speaker 1: Is Dak ready to be the best thing that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do? Offensively? I should say yeah, I'm not ready
Speaker 1: to say that, which, although let me let me start
Speaker 1: good before I get to that, though. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: so encouraged by the way he's looked in these games,
Speaker 1: because again, we've been going back and forth about how
Speaker 1: he's looked in practice. It's been up and down. I
Speaker 1: even said he needs to be more consistent. And the argument,
Speaker 1: as always well, is that because of this top five
Speaker 1: defense or because Dak's not that good, And granted he's
Speaker 1: playing backups in these games. I get that, but he's
Speaker 1: done everything you could ask him to do to this point.
Speaker 1: Ten points on two drives and ninety seven yard scoring
Speaker 1: drive got everybody involved look accurate. I know people were
Speaker 1: debating the gallop throw. I thought it was a fantastic pass.
Speaker 1: I thought he put it exactly where it needed to
Speaker 1: be to give Gallup a chance to get it, even
Speaker 1: if it was a jump ball. I think he's looked
Speaker 1: great and he's done everything you can ask of him.
Speaker 1: Whether that means he's ready to be that load carrying quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say. You know, I thought the
Speaker 1: past that we just saw here in practice, where it
Speaker 1: was Tavon Austin about twenty yards down the field a
Speaker 1: crossing route, I thought that those are the type of
Speaker 1: plays that a Kellen Moore is kind of scheming open
Speaker 1: more than we saw last year and B Decks hitting him.
Speaker 1: You know, so see who's getting these carries right, now right,
Speaker 1: my man Alfie, Sorry Pollard, who No, I just yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go, Mack haven't had a drop in a while, No,
Speaker 1: I thought. I just I think he's done well. I
Speaker 1: don't know if if that's the right answer where you
Speaker 1: get the best that they do, because I still think
Speaker 1: their offensive line in the running game kind of is
Speaker 1: everything that this team's based off of. So I still
Speaker 1: think that it's not the best thing that they do.
Speaker 1: But he runs it really well. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: my argument for why I think this team, like fret
Speaker 1: less about the money, because even if you pay him
Speaker 1: right now, Dak doesn't have to be the best thing
Speaker 1: you do, Like Russell Wilson wasn't the best thing the
Speaker 1: Seahawks did after they gave him his first big contract.
Speaker 1: You still have the offensive line in place. Zeke presumably
Speaker 1: will be there. We'll see how that goes. Cooper is
Speaker 1: going to be there, like all of that stuff is
Speaker 1: gonna be there for Dak, and all of this salary
Speaker 1: cap stuff isn't going to hit you for several more
Speaker 1: years at least two, if not more than that. And
Speaker 1: so even if he is just a high end I
Speaker 1: hate that phrase, but even if he's just a high
Speaker 1: end bus driver with all the other talent around him.
Speaker 1: Right now, that's probably good enough. And the hope for
Speaker 1: me is that in let's say two three years, he
Speaker 1: is that guy. I don't know if he's there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, and that's the nature of this
Speaker 1: is once you give him that big contract, Basically, once
Speaker 1: you give all these guys these big contracts, over time,
Speaker 1: that's going to start diminishing the amount of talent that
Speaker 1: you'll have across the board. That being said, if you
Speaker 1: guys were to look into your crystal balls right now,
Speaker 1: from what you've seen of him and his growth and
Speaker 1: his maturation over the years that he's been with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: do you see his trajectory being one that gets him
Speaker 1: to that level? Yeah? I do, because because he's gotten
Speaker 1: better every every year. I mean, he's you can say
Speaker 1: that that he's you know, he keeps improving. Make sure
Speaker 1: there's not an injured guy there on the field. No,
Speaker 1: But I mean I think you know, he's he's gotten
Speaker 1: you know, weapons around him, and I think the Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper thing really helped him last year. There's just the
Speaker 1: best route running receiver that he's ever had. On the team.
Speaker 1: You know, I guess Beasley was a good route runner,
Speaker 1: but not in all the spots. So I think he's
Speaker 1: getting more and more weapons and he's getting better, and
Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore seems to be a better fit
Speaker 1: for what he's trying to do. It's we'll see. I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to bet against his work ethic and
Speaker 1: his natural charisma, and those are the things that I
Speaker 1: that give me a lot of confidence that he can
Speaker 1: on top of that. And this isn't to take credit
Speaker 1: away from Dak, but I think of oh, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: tarn Christian getting some reps at quarterback, which we've seen
Speaker 1: very very little of a lot of people have been
Speaker 1: asking me about that. I think the Cowboys are trying
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to hide him. I've played this
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson this week. Maybe they're trying to that's a
Speaker 1: good point getting him. I don't know. Maybe, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean he's going to get a chance with this
Speaker 1: number two. These are not his first reps at quarterback,
Speaker 1: Like He's had a few chances, but it has been
Speaker 1: few and far between. But I just think they like
Speaker 1: what he does on a variety of fact and like
Speaker 1: we joke like Jamie Showers two point oh, but I
Speaker 1: really think that's it's not a coincidence that they're trying
Speaker 1: to develop this guy at the same time that Jamie
Speaker 1: Showers runs out of practice squad eligibility. Yeah so, and
Speaker 1: he just does the read option. There is scout team quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Eschell teams guy. He's covered kickoffs of we'll talk more
Speaker 1: about backup quarterbacks get to the bad of the game.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to take credit away from Dak,
Speaker 1: but you can't underestimate what a good offensive coordinator can
Speaker 1: do for you, Like how bad did Jared Goff look
Speaker 1: when he first got in the league Versus how great
Speaker 1: he looks under Sean McVay. And like it's not a secret,
Speaker 1: Like Sean mcvayh is good at scheming quote unquote easy
Speaker 1: calls for him, Like he makes it easy on his quarterback.
Speaker 1: Saw it in the game on that wheel route. I
Speaker 1: mean he schemed that. And it's not to take credit
Speaker 1: away from Jared Goff either, but you know how much
Speaker 1: have we talked about like play design, Why don't the
Speaker 1: Cowboys use rub routes? Why don't the Cowboys scheme guys
Speaker 1: open instead? Of relying on the receivers, and that's that's
Speaker 1: been this talking point. And maybe it's Kellen Moore that
Speaker 1: opens that up for Dak, or maybe it's the next coach,
Speaker 1: but either way, I think you can't underestimate what that
Speaker 1: could do for him too. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup had a thirty one yard reception. We've seen
Speaker 1: him go down the field quite a bit. Last year,
Speaker 1: he went down the field quite a bit, but the
Speaker 1: connection between he and Dak wasn't always perfect. And if
Speaker 1: you guys seen enough here in practicing in training camp
Speaker 1: to suggest that you think that'll be a more higher
Speaker 1: percentage play for the Cowboys this year than it was
Speaker 1: last year. Yes, I do think so. And I think
Speaker 1: that the catch that he made was a proof of that,
Speaker 1: going up and attacking the football, getting the ball, not
Speaker 1: just you know, running in the past. Wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't get him in stride. But you
Speaker 1: don't always have to do that. You get it out
Speaker 1: there and you let your playmaker go get to play
Speaker 1: because once he stops, the cornerback flies by anyways, So
Speaker 1: just get it in a spot where he can catch it.
Speaker 1: That was the problem that Dak was last year was
Speaker 1: overthrowing him or throwing it out of bounds. Give him
Speaker 1: a catchable ball and let the playmaker go make the catch,
Speaker 1: which is what he did. Dak haters don't want to
Speaker 1: hear it, but he threw Gallop open on that play.
Speaker 1: Like the coverage was good and I like, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to hit him in stride, but you know
Speaker 1: they're safety help in the NFL. That's a thing. Like
Speaker 1: it was a well, it was a well placed ball,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's exactly right. All right, Let's move on
Speaker 1: Devin Smith, another receiver. He actually had three catches for
Speaker 1: twenty four yards and a touchdown. Interesting guy because he's
Speaker 1: a second round pick, has had two knee injuries, did
Speaker 1: not play on a fifty three man roster last season,
Speaker 1: but this year has played pretty good over the last week.
Speaker 1: He had a really good last week, really nice catch
Speaker 1: by Randall Cobb right there, like that could have been
Speaker 1: an interception and Cobb just kind of took it away
Speaker 1: from the guy. But he had a really nice practice
Speaker 1: last week and then ended in game with a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That was a really nice play. Do you think Devin
Speaker 1: Smith is making a case for himself to make this
Speaker 1: team despite the fact that he is a guy that
Speaker 1: has been injury prone, had two major injuries for him.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure like we're being very transparent
Speaker 1: here because I see you astute listeners of the break,
Speaker 1: like we we buried the guy. I think it was
Speaker 1: it was the wednesday before we like packed up in
Speaker 1: ox and arts. No, no, no no, it was the Wednesday
Speaker 1: before the forty nine ers game. So coming up on
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, we were basically like, I don't see it.
Speaker 1: He's not really distinguishing himself. He's not that versatile. And
Speaker 1: ever since there he is right there. Ever since he's
Speaker 1: been making us eat our words, and people have pointed
Speaker 1: that out to me. I'm not hiding from it like
Speaker 1: he was. This thing is fluid. Let's absolutely it changes
Speaker 1: from day to day. He's great in the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers game. He put together three great practices. Last week,
Speaker 1: he was great in the Rams game. He just had
Speaker 1: a catch right there. I do wonder though, and Nick
Speaker 1: just said it's gonna be tough for him, Like, again,
Speaker 1: are you versatile enough to justify that roster spot when
Speaker 1: you consider that the three main pass catchers. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got three guys that are gonna play most of
Speaker 1: the snaps. You've got a fourth guy in Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: who's gonna handle a lot of special teams duties and
Speaker 1: be a gadget guy. You probably have Noah Brown depending
Speaker 1: and again, I don't care if people don't want to
Speaker 1: hear it. He blocks, he does all that dirty stuff
Speaker 1: that Jason Garrett loves. That's important. Is Devin Smith good
Speaker 1: enough to justify that even and and does he have
Speaker 1: a role on special teams because that's so important for
Speaker 1: a guy that's you know, fifth or six on the
Speaker 1: depth chart too. They did have him as the gunner
Speaker 1: the other day in the punt team. But it's come
Speaker 1: It looks like it's gonna come down to that final
Speaker 1: spot with John Vay Johnson, h Cedric Wilson. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe Reggie Davis. He's he's kind of taking a few
Speaker 1: steps backwards here, but uh, you know, they really liked
Speaker 1: what John Vy does and uh Scooper throws into somebody.
Speaker 1: John Vy is just the classic case of not taking
Speaker 1: it to a game, though, right, which is I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I do wonder you know, Devin Smith second round pick
Speaker 1: thirty seventh overall by the New York Jets. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: he's had He's had two knee injuries completely derailed his career,
Speaker 1: but everybody knows his talent. You average twenty eight yards
Speaker 1: per catch his final year Ohio State. That's crazy. If
Speaker 1: you cut him, is he more likely to get scooped up?
Speaker 1: Because name power is part of it, But obviously he's
Speaker 1: got a talent to be a top forty pick if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, and he is. Is he less likely to
Speaker 1: hang around if you release him as opposed to you know,
Speaker 1: no offense, no offense to John Bay Johnson or Jalen
Speaker 1: Guiden or even Cedric Wilson. But like, you can probably
Speaker 1: sneak those guys onto your practice squad. Like I don't
Speaker 1: think NFL teams are beating down the door to steal
Speaker 1: them from you, because every team has guys like that.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing to consider. I think we
Speaker 1: all talk about it a lot on this show. You
Speaker 1: get down that layer of the depth chart, and the
Speaker 1: guy needs to also give you something on special teams.
Speaker 1: But I think something that could factor into this decision,
Speaker 1: or probably should factor into this decision, is that if
Speaker 1: you got a guy here that you feel like you
Speaker 1: might have stolen, who is a second round pick, a
Speaker 1: high second round pick that is really a caliber wide
Speaker 1: receiver of your top three guys, just hasn't had a
Speaker 1: chance to really prove that because of injury. Then maybe
Speaker 1: you say, hey, we gotta keep this guy around because
Speaker 1: we think developing him, he's gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: top three guys come next year. And that's more important
Speaker 1: then having a guy down at the six wide receiver
Speaker 1: spot who was either going to be an active or
Speaker 1: gonna be a special teams guy. And I think that
Speaker 1: might be Devin Smith's best bet is that you know,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb's a free agent, all that good stuff, like
Speaker 1: having this guy is more important to us than having
Speaker 1: a dude who could do something more on special teams.
Speaker 1: And maybe you have to finagle some things to make
Speaker 1: that work, but you probably could. I just keep thinking
Speaker 1: of guys like Jimmy Smith, who it happened sometimes in
Speaker 1: the NFL, things just don't work out for you from
Speaker 1: where you're drafting. You may have a high draft pick,
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't work out for injury or whatever reason.
Speaker 1: And then you get somewhere else and you do get
Speaker 1: that luck to fall on your side and now you're rolling.
Speaker 1: That's that. It's so tantalizing too. And we saw it
Speaker 1: briefly with Rolando mcclan right, like, if you can get
Speaker 1: one of those talented guys whose career hasn't worked out
Speaker 1: for him to hit, it can be big for our
Speaker 1: Colombo was another guy. He came to the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: Chicago felt they that he had been a bus for them.
Speaker 1: He came here and had a really nice career here
Speaker 1: as a as a right tackle. And what does you know,
Speaker 1: Brian brun As say that the scouts always say, give
Speaker 1: me some traits. What does he do that separates him
Speaker 1: from others? And he is separating and run, He can
Speaker 1: separate from the knees. He can he can run. We
Speaker 1: haven't even seen that so much as we've seen him
Speaker 1: just make good plays and in the red zone at receiver,
Speaker 1: which was a nice catch there in the back of
Speaker 1: the end zone in the game. Yeah, all right's sake,
Speaker 1: our final break. We'll come back. We got one more
Speaker 1: good thing, and then we have a couple of things
Speaker 1: that are we're not so good. We'll talk about those
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Speaker 1: get an opportunities to your team up close and personal
Speaker 1: before we get to the regular season. We're going through
Speaker 1: the game. One other thing I wanted to point out
Speaker 1: that was on the good side. Carrie hyder Um played
Speaker 1: very well and played very well at two different positions,
Speaker 1: both defensive tackle and defensive end, showing that versatility that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys love that position flex. This is kind of
Speaker 1: a bigger picture question. Do you think that he can
Speaker 1: now possibly play the role that for so many years
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford has played for this team And maybe it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything for this year, but in going down
Speaker 1: the road obviously next year be more of a decision.
Speaker 1: Do you think that maybe he can start feeling that
Speaker 1: feeling that kind of role for him, or do you
Speaker 1: think it can even take another step in the in
Speaker 1: the form that you don't really want to have. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out how you're gonna cut this
Speaker 1: team and get down to fifty three, that you have
Speaker 1: to make a decision between here and Tyrone Crawford. M
Speaker 1: I think that that Hyder is a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you if you're looking
Speaker 1: that far down the road, I mean it makes sense
Speaker 1: though with about Crawford, you want to you wanna see
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be able to do next year contract wise,
Speaker 1: it could be something where they maybe part ways from
Speaker 1: But they love position flex They'll say they'll say that
Speaker 1: all the time on every player. What I think Hider's
Speaker 1: able to do right now is that you have some
Speaker 1: questions all over the d line, especially a defensive end,
Speaker 1: and he's able to do that and say he's gonna
Speaker 1: be here week one. We know that he's gonna make that.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make the team for sure. I
Speaker 1: don't even think now he's a guy that makes the
Speaker 1: team for week one or two, and then we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with Quinn. I mean he I think he's
Speaker 1: got a role because of what you said, all that versatility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean always we can be wrong. We were about
Speaker 1: Devin Smith two weeks ago, but I think of him
Speaker 1: as on the team and having a role. I think
Speaker 1: they love him. He's shown it in the games. I
Speaker 1: think it's a little premature of the stuff with Tyrone
Speaker 1: and Tyrone's contract the way it sits it does you
Speaker 1: know if they wanted to move on from him next year?
Speaker 1: Y sense? But I think he means too much to
Speaker 1: them right now. I think they're both versatile enough that
Speaker 1: you can find ways to work them both simultaneously anyway.
Speaker 1: But on top of that, Carrie Hyder is not this
Speaker 1: like long term situation that Tyrone isn't. He's on a
Speaker 1: one year veteran deal. He's turning twenty nine next year.
Speaker 1: Like this isn't a rookie draft pick or something who's
Speaker 1: got this long future in front of him. So if
Speaker 1: you're making decisions based on Carrie Hyder with Tyrone, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I see that And I expect him
Speaker 1: both to be on the team. Okay, let's move over
Speaker 1: to some of the things that weren't so good for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Let's talk first about Mike White. He was
Speaker 1: seven to thirteen, he had thirty yards, he had an interception.
Speaker 1: They did give an opportunity to roam with the twos.
Speaker 1: I would assume in hopes that that maybe they could
Speaker 1: give him an opportunity to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: protection than he had in the San Francisco game. I
Speaker 1: think he all agreed the protection was a little shoddy
Speaker 1: there in that game. What do you think that means
Speaker 1: for him long term and for the backup quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem good that Taren Christian just took his third
Speaker 1: team reps in practice. That doesn't seem good to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I try to keep an open
Speaker 1: mind and really be as forgiving as possible. But the
Speaker 1: Rams muffed punt set them up at the thirty one
Speaker 1: yard line. The Rams thirty one yard line, thirty one
Speaker 1: yards from pay dirt. Mike White goes in there, he's
Speaker 1: with the second team, he's he should have good players
Speaker 1: around him, and they moved backward two yards, and I
Speaker 1: think that was Maher's missed field goal, right, so good
Speaker 1: to that. That's that's just not good enough. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just not And really, they haven't moved the ball with
Speaker 1: Mike White at quarterback in either preseason that he's been
Speaker 1: allowed to do it. And say what you will about
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, he's certainly he hasn't looked as amazing as
Speaker 1: he did his rookie year back in twenty seventeen. But
Speaker 1: he moved the offense down the field. He threw a
Speaker 1: touchdown past to Devin's. I always want to call him
Speaker 1: Devin White, Devin Smith. He moves the offense. It doesn't
Speaker 1: always look great, but he does it. You cannot say
Speaker 1: that about Mike White. As far as I'm concerned that
Speaker 1: competition is over, it seems pretty clear that, I mean,
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen, how can you call it
Speaker 1: any other way. So it just it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: they have any need to carry three quarterbacks, at least
Speaker 1: not these three m And I just think Cooper Russia
Speaker 1: will be the backup, and it's really not close in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Do you feel comfortable with Cooper Russia's the backup?
Speaker 1: Because I know going into this preseason I probably was
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was on the side of being
Speaker 1: very nervous about the backup quarterback position. I have seen
Speaker 1: a little bit this preseason and during training camp that
Speaker 1: suggested me that maybe Cooper's got a little something. Do
Speaker 1: you guys feel a little better about it or you
Speaker 1: still feel the exact same as you did before the
Speaker 1: presempt to be a smart ass. I'm comfortable with anyone
Speaker 1: as the backup quarterback, you know I am. I mean
Speaker 1: anybody as the backup. I mean, we could be the
Speaker 1: backup as long as we given the defense very good
Speaker 1: looks in practice. If we're the backup, I'm just thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, we all know the deal. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a huge drop off, and I think I think it
Speaker 1: would be a huge drop off. However, um, I see
Speaker 1: what you're seeing. I think that he's he moves the ball. Well,
Speaker 1: he's kind of a gamer, you know, he's he's never
Speaker 1: been one that just lights it up in practice. But
Speaker 1: you know, Dad didn't either. I don't know if Romo
Speaker 1: did either. I I don't. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you go out and practice his practice. But
Speaker 1: Cooper in the games, he moves the ball a lot better,
Speaker 1: and we're comparing him to Mike White, which Mike White can't.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't pull the trigger on that interception, and
Speaker 1: it was like the guy was open and he just
Speaker 1: waited and then he threw it, and then it was
Speaker 1: it was a terrible pass. That's not open in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You've got to hit it. And I think that Cooper
Speaker 1: is and even Jason Garrett, surprisingly if you saw in
Speaker 1: the in the postgame press conference, said he's a lot
Speaker 1: more comfortable, and he's he's a he's further ahead, and
Speaker 1: I think we're all seeing that right now. Bret Meyer
Speaker 1: was another guy that I'll put in the category of
Speaker 1: of something that didn't go the Cowboys way. He misses
Speaker 1: a fifty two yard field goal. Um after that, were
Speaker 1: you more or less or the same as far as
Speaker 1: your level of concern concern? I feel the same, just
Speaker 1: for me less a little a little less because he
Speaker 1: didn't strike it well. You know, I get it, it's
Speaker 1: a miss. Yeah, I fifty two yards and it's windy
Speaker 1: and all that. It didn't seem like it was well hit. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I didn't get a good look
Speaker 1: at it, but it looked like a knuckleball just kind
Speaker 1: of fluttering a way off and it wasn't really close.
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: a great attempt. I mean, yeah, you're gonna miss some
Speaker 1: but so that makes you feel less concerned. No, I
Speaker 1: meant you feel less good about Maybe I just was
Speaker 1: so quick to answer. Now, I don't know how you
Speaker 1: can be less Okay, sorry, that's why you said. I
Speaker 1: thought you'd come with some clever point. Sometimes you'll just
Speaker 1: kind of give something to say. Yeah, sorry, I feel
Speaker 1: I feel less about him, Yeah than I did, But
Speaker 1: I think I don't know who's better. But it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to pay it's hard to pay one hundred percent
Speaker 1: attention to what's going on a practice while we're trying
Speaker 1: to have a conversation. But I'm pretty sure he just
Speaker 1: went six for six during field goal period. He was
Speaker 1: he was what five for five last ye If he
Speaker 1: was six for six today, which I'm not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure, but I think then that's his third straight
Speaker 1: or no, his Yeah, his third strade six for six
Speaker 1: and his fourth overall, which you know he's still missed
Speaker 1: in the game. That's I feel the same because he
Speaker 1: missed it's a fifty two yard or in a windy stadium, like,
Speaker 1: that's not a gimmey. I get that, But a miss
Speaker 1: is a miss, and that's supposed to be what you're
Speaker 1: great at. You know, we know you missed from short range,
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to make it from long range. So
Speaker 1: now you missed from short range in San Francisco and
Speaker 1: you missed from so I just it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel good. But yeah, I'm kind of with Nick that
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that there's this definitive upgrade out there.
Speaker 1: I know, like people are gonna say Matt Brian and
Speaker 1: that might be the case, but he'll he'll be there,
Speaker 1: I assume. So nobody else has grabbed him yet, although
Speaker 1: going back to the previous point, the Eagles did grab
Speaker 1: Josh McCown, who was my break glass in case of
Speaker 1: emergency quarterbacks. So I think that was probably a lot
Speaker 1: of teams around in the league thinking that. I tell
Speaker 1: think I would do it. I think I would get
Speaker 1: Matt Bryant would if if he struggles against the Texans,
Speaker 1: I would would I would. My point was going to
Speaker 1: be as get through the preseason and if you if
Speaker 1: if really you're not feeling any better than you can
Speaker 1: go get Matt Bryant. But if you're worried that somebody
Speaker 1: else is going to take him, maybe you should. All
Speaker 1: right now, I bet I bet you they as usual.
Speaker 1: I bet you they're not as worried about it as
Speaker 1: we are. For whatever reason. Reggie Davis muffed to punt.
Speaker 1: We've seen him muff punts and practice as well throughout
Speaker 1: training camp. Are you convinced that he can't be the
Speaker 1: return guy for you this year? Oh? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think he will be. I think tayvon Or and or
Speaker 1: Cobb you know, can do that. The thing about these
Speaker 1: receivers would say it all the time. You get on
Speaker 1: the radar because you run routes and you and you
Speaker 1: catch the ball, But what are you doing on special teams?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the difference. So if you're dropping punts,
Speaker 1: or you're or you're not running down on kickoff or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, that's that's you've got to get there
Speaker 1: from there. It's not just catching the ball. You're not
Speaker 1: that good doing that. So we'll see, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see on him. But his arrow is gone down. As
Speaker 1: Devin Smith goes up and and Cedric Wilson's go up
Speaker 1: and you know he's what we ranked the receivers a
Speaker 1: week and a half ago, I believe, And you know
Speaker 1: we were we were told we were pretty close and
Speaker 1: what we were doing. I think we put him seventh
Speaker 1: if we had to do it today. I know Devin
Speaker 1: Smith is higher than him. I know Cedric Wilson would
Speaker 1: be higher than him. I don't think Jalen Guidon would be.
Speaker 1: This week is going to be interesting because, like I mean, Reggie,
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis has played well as a receiver, but his
Speaker 1: big thing is the special team's contributions. He's been working
Speaker 1: at punt returner all camp, which people were blowing me
Speaker 1: up on Saturday to night like let somebody else get
Speaker 1: a look at this, And I'm like, well, go through
Speaker 1: your list of options. You know Tavan and Cob aren't
Speaker 1: going to do it. Cedric Wilson wasn't even in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, like you basically are got
Speaker 1: nothing but Reggie Davis. You might as well give him
Speaker 1: a long look. But Cedric is back today, so there's
Speaker 1: a chance you could give him a look at returns
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. And also I think there's a chance
Speaker 1: you might see Tony Pollard back there, so it'd be
Speaker 1: interesting if one of those guys does a good job,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Reggie Davis's unique skill set
Speaker 1: doesn't look that impressive. So something to watch real quick
Speaker 1: before we end the show. That was actually one other
Speaker 1: good that I wanted to point out done them in
Speaker 1: a loom book. Yeh was very active playing cornerback for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. All that being said, that is one of
Speaker 1: the positions where they got a little depth. Do you
Speaker 1: think he has a shot? I should even say a
Speaker 1: shot shot. Do you think he makes this team makes
Speaker 1: the final fifty three? I think so. I think he does.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to keep a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick in Mike Jackson. He has He's been way better
Speaker 1: than Mike Jackson, and he should be, you would think,
Speaker 1: because he's he's been here that much longer. But um,
Speaker 1: I think when you look at what you said earlier
Speaker 1: about the defensive tackle, if you look at the cornerback
Speaker 1: position next year and Anthony Brown Byron Jones, Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: will see he'd be restricted, right Jordan Lewis, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's just being the last year of his deal. Nice
Speaker 1: looked like a nice breakup by Cheeto Woozier right there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of cornerback, Cheeto will be here ully but not hurt,
Speaker 1: but a lumbo the guy that they like. He's okay
Speaker 1: and the the body type that that they like that
Speaker 1: Chris Shard obviously likes. I mean he's making he's making
Speaker 1: plays and because why do you want linked at corner
Speaker 1: so you can get you know, your hand on the ball. Well,
Speaker 1: he's done that more than anybody out here. It's interesting
Speaker 1: because Okay, again, let's break it down barring assuming nothing
Speaker 1: crazy happens with like a you know, a roster cut
Speaker 1: trade something like that. Then Byron's on the team, Cheetos
Speaker 1: on the team, Jordan's on the team, Anthony Brown's on
Speaker 1: the team, and I think CJ. Goodwin's on the team
Speaker 1: because he is far and away their best. But he
Speaker 1: made a great play. Yeah, he made a great tackle
Speaker 1: as he was the guy that that he was in
Speaker 1: on that muff punt. He's a fantastic gunner. They love
Speaker 1: him as a special teamer. So that's five if they
Speaker 1: keep six. I think it's evidence that Chris Rashard has
Speaker 1: a lot of sway which he I mean, he should.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that, And either way, you would
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of his guys because Jackson
Speaker 1: is his guy, and so is Alumba, So take your pick.
Speaker 1: Alumba has been better. But they only went with five
Speaker 1: corners last year, so if they go with six, I
Speaker 1: think it says a lot about Richard Sway in that
Speaker 1: personnel room. I will say this though, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think they necessarily want CJ. Goodwin on the
Speaker 1: field playing cornerback, and so when you're talking about having
Speaker 1: I know that he will fit on the depth chart there,
Speaker 1: but the fact is that would only be four cornerbacks
Speaker 1: because you don't want him to have to play, so
Speaker 1: you could kind of think of him more as even
Speaker 1: though he would make the team, you can't think of
Speaker 1: him or as your special team's ace. And then you
Speaker 1: have your fifth cornerback in a Loomba or Jackson. Just
Speaker 1: in terms of bodies though, I get it, I get it,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to imagine more than ten dbs, and
Speaker 1: like I said, last year, they only kept nine. So
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm I'm good with four safety too. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear I think you you go with
Speaker 1: pretty clear the two starters obviously, and then I think
Speaker 1: you got Um, I'm I don't have my roster with
Speaker 1: me for all the names. Uh, there's there's Darian Thompson.
Speaker 1: Darian Thompson, that's three, and there's Donald Wilson. Those are
Speaker 1: the four that I would keep. And uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong. That's who I would keep. You're
Speaker 1: gonna cut Fraser and I would. I would. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think I think I feel I feel pretty good about
Speaker 1: where the safeties are right now. The two starters, um,
Speaker 1: and I don't think. I don't personally think they get
Speaker 1: a whole lot out of Frasier playing cornerback. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry playing safety. Frasier got the start for Heath on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and I get all that, Okay, get all that, but
Speaker 1: I just and this is if I were making the cuts.
Speaker 1: But obviously they they'll they do factor in veterans and
Speaker 1: veterans and their their knowledge of the team and being
Speaker 1: around here and being good citizens on the team like
Speaker 1: that matters to them. And so I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 1: if if Frasier's here, But I do think this would
Speaker 1: be an opportunity for them to go a little young there.
Speaker 1: And and if you're gonna have ten, go four safeties
Speaker 1: and keep that that extra cornerback. I think you got
Speaker 1: more talent at cornerback than what you do at say
Speaker 1: one way or another. Yeah, six cornerbacks sounds like it
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. All Right, we'll appreciate you guys
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