1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Back him to neeading with Mark Shapiro. What is your title? 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Is it President of Baseball. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Pident and CEO. No, I'm your CEO. I oversee both 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: the baseball and the business side. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: Wow, you're mostly important. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I'm a legend of my own mind. Yeah. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: No, I'm not that bored. I basically says, I'm I'm 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: not doing anything. Those ross running the baseball organization, Marnie 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Starkman's running the business organization. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to help out whenever I can. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Did you fire You're the new Paul Beeston? You're the 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 3: new Paul Beston? 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly the same as beasts. 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 5: I was dressed about the Blue days in two thousand 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 5: and two, and Paul Beeston was the guy. I didn't 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 5: realize he made it. He was there till twenty fifteen 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 5: and when you took over, Am I correct? 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: He had two different runs. I think he went to 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: the Commissioner's office for a little while in between. Forget 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: what those years were, but yeah, and he's still in 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: the building. Man, the guy still has an office there, 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: still goes to every game. Was the first hire in 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: I think the history of the Blue Jay organization. And 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: this is our fiftieth season, so that's remarkable to think. 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: About how much are you involved in the day to. 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: Day Not I mean not when it comes to like 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: waiver claims or you know, I think when it comes 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: to our highest leverage decisions like signing Dylan Ceese or 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: something like that. You know, hopefully I can be still 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: be a resource for Ross having done that job when 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: he has to think about tough conversations or big decisions 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: we have to make. I still gravitate towards player development, 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: like Farm director was to me the most fulfilling role 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: that I had in all the different roles that I've 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: had over thirty five years of working in the game. 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: And so you know, David Bell, Joe Sclaffani, those are 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: still like the guys. I still love thinking about how 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: to help as many players as possible get to the 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: big leagues and stay in the big leagues. 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: And that's where my passion life. 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I saw David Bell this morning and he said he's 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: assistant GM or. 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's assistant GM and overseeing play focusing in the 46 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: player development. 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: And he had the scrubbing bubbles and towels, and I'm like, man, 48 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: you went from big League manager crafts to cleaning your 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: own shoes. 50 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: He had to scrubbing bubbles with the dirty towels. I'm like, David, 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: do you really David? 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: David's about as humble of it, and you think about 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: like his his resume. You know, he's obviously kind of 54 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: baseball royalty third generation. There's only a few of the 55 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: boons and the bells that are kind of you know. 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: That special history. 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Gus the buddy to him and his brother, and then 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: he had a good, great playing career and then he managed, 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: you know, for a long time. And when I'm talking 60 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: to him, the guy is so incredibly humble, I forget, 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: you know, his. 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: Background, and talk guy. 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: I remind myself, like, you know, you should be just 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: asking this guy questions, not talking to him about players. 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: You need to ask him one question when you see him, 66 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: just say, you know what happened to you when I 67 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: go aj broke your foot one time? 68 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: Just ask him and get the story, all right. 69 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: So he was our assistant hitting coach in Saint Louis 70 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: and he was flipping to me, oh really, and I 71 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: smoked him and broke his foot and then he's hobbling 72 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: around on like, oh yeah, he doesn't like to talk 73 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: about it. 74 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: He did, you know, you'd never know because he's a quiet, 75 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: understated guy. But he did have some of the greatest 76 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: snaps ever. Because I when I was a young farm director, 77 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: he was with us in Buffalo and in the Triple 78 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: and Triple A and just getting into the big leagues, 79 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: and that guy, you know, I know, you could see 80 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: his manager he had some of the greatest From a 81 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: mild matter guy, he could snap, but the best of them. 82 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: One of the guys I respected the most was Chase Utley, 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: and Chase Hutley respected David Bell more than anybody. So 84 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: if you say that, if he says that, I believe it. 85 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: But I want to talk to you about the front 86 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: offices because you're the guy that kind of sets the 87 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: groundwork for the front office. You said, these other guys 88 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 5: do do the things that you know more day to 89 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: day and and the and the moves. But how have 90 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 5: front offices changed since your time with the Indians to 91 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 5: now from a structure standpoint to a communications standpoint all 92 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 5: of that. 93 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, shoot, that's a heck of a question. 94 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: And I laughed about it all the time. I remember 95 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: talking to John Hart when I first started in the 96 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: game in Cleveland, and John, you know, we would make 97 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: decisions with scouting reports from the filing cabinet behind his desk, 98 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: and stat books on our laps and scouts raising hands. 99 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: And I think just the magnitude and the level of 100 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: information that we have that goes into decisions now is 101 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: just it makes it hard to almost manage. And it 102 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: does allow for better decisions, understanding why we make good decisions, 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: why we make bad decisions, which does enable you to 104 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: learn and continue to get better. But the challenge in 105 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: going from a smaller front office where only a few 106 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: people had cell phones to the amount of data generated 107 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: on every single pitch being overwhelming and the front offices 108 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: ballooning in size. Player development staffs, you know, I laugh 109 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: all the time. I you know, player developments have are 110 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: double A and triple A teams have twelve people on 111 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: a staff. Now you know dietitian, a mental performance coach, 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: two hitting coaches, two pitching coaches, you know, a physical therapist, 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: two strength coaches. When I was a farm director, it 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: was manager, hitting coach, and pitching coach and a trainer. 115 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: And a trainer did just about every job there was 116 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: to do. I'm sure you coming up that. I think 117 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: it's it's more to manage, it's. 118 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: More to lead. 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: To do that, you have to have. 120 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: Some really strong strategies. You have to have values that 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: are crystal clear throughout the organization that connect every function 122 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: within the organization. And then I think the most important 123 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: thing is you can't just have all those people for 124 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: eyewash just to check a box and say you've got them. 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: You've got to most importantly be thoughtful on how does 126 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: that information get to your players and how can players 127 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: use it and not be overwhelming. So the magnitude of 128 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: information managed within a decision, you know is is. 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: Is one challenge. 130 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: And then how to make sure people still feel connected 131 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: and players still get what's important for them to be 132 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: the best they can be. Those are the biggest challenges 133 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: with the way everything's changed in the game. 134 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Did you used to work the John Hart baseball camp 135 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: back in the day when John. 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: I never worked? I know I did. 137 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 6: I went. 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: I was just I was he was a boon, Yes, 139 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: I was. 140 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I guess I was a camper and after I got 141 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: drafted and then I was a counselor John. 142 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: You know why, I was the best assistant for John 143 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: he could possibly ever have because I'm like one of 144 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: the only guys in baseball that doesn't golf. So well, 145 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: he loved that about me because John could go out 146 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: and play golf and he knew I'd be there the 147 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: early cell phone and he'd be on the driving range 148 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: and then he like you talking through the lineup with 149 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: me and like asking me questions about everything. 150 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 151 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: Okay, So everyone says this, and Toronto has become this place. 152 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of la in the National League in Toronto, 153 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: in the American League place guys want to go. 154 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: How import from NY take it from? 155 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: When I got there, I think I can tell you 156 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: how you make it that. But when I got there, 157 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: you know what I was told was, guys, don't you 158 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: know you have to pay guys more, give them extra years, 159 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: Guys won't come to Toronto. 160 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: And I never really understood that. 161 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I was making a decision after twenty four 162 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: years in Cleveland to come to Toronto because I thought 163 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: it was such an incredible city. And I think, you know, 164 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: you have to do a couple of things. One every 165 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: little thing matters. So the way we treat players, the 166 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: way we treat their families. We've built the best clubhouse 167 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. I think we have the best 168 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: staff to support players, families, the best family room. Our 169 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: family rooms like a you know, incredible oasis for kids 170 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: that are bugging their dads to take them. 171 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: On off days. 172 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: And so I just think it's recognizing that that you know, 173 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: from the environment that players walk into, how you feed 174 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: them to the hovery, you know, modalities that you've got 175 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: to you know, every single thing, the way you travel. 176 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: Yes, there are. 177 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Some challenges navigating the border, not that big of a deal, 178 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: but twenty other little things and a bunch of people 179 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: that are focused on how to make it the best 180 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: place to play. You know, we're thinking how to make 181 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: it the best place to play. From this facility you 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: were in today aj you know, to our clubhouse in Toronto, 183 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: and then all the people that are around them. We 184 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time thinking let's make this the 185 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: best place to play. 186 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: When you say that, did you think of the hitters 187 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: when you moved the fences and made it a pitcher's ballpark? 188 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: Because I used to go to Toronto, man, I gotta 189 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: sneak one home ran because it's such a great place 190 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: to hit. 191 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 192 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean now, all of a sudden, you change everything 193 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and now it's become almost new to corporal. 194 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. 195 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: When we did it, everyone was saying we were making 196 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: a bambox because we brought the alleys in dramatically made 197 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: the fences higher, but brought the alleys in. I wish 198 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: it was a little more of a bambo in Game 199 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: seven of the World Series, if gass out, you know, 200 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: kind of a slider hit over the left field in 201 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: the shortest part of the park. But you know, listen, 202 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: I think you either want to have a defined ballpark attribute, 203 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: like absolutely defined like the Green Monster or Yankee Stadium 204 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: in right field, or you want to have it play neutral. 205 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: It's hard to build a club to kind of subtle, 206 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, aspects of a ballpark. 207 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: We thought it would be a little more hitter friendly 208 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: when we made the changes, but. 209 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: Tried to keep it as new because we took out 210 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: a ton of foul territory and brought the alleys in 211 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: quite a bit. But we also were most importantly just 212 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: changing it from a multi purpose generic stadium that was 213 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: just a circle to a ballpark. And I think, you know, 214 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: everyone that saw it for the first time in a 215 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: long time, and in the World Series and in the postseason, 216 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: had a chance to kind of see the showcase of 217 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: the work of so many people that worked hard to 218 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: make it truly just a baseball focused ballpark. 219 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: Now I love it. 220 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: I can't I get to go in April for the 221 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: first time in a couple of years. I can't wait 222 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: to see the the new place. I'm excited. Mark, thank 223 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: you very much for joining. 224 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: Us your time. 225 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: He's got the quarters if he's president, guys, but he 226 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: still has quarters. 227 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, the quarters if it's it's the standard attire. 228 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: Ye standard issue for anyone in the front office. Mark, 229 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: thank you very much. 230 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Now joined by another Blue Jay And did you ever 231 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: pitch in the WBC? Not Bax Scherzer is here with us, 232 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: who's also we talked about a Hall of Famer where 233 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: he won't say it, but I'll say it. Another hall 234 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: of Famer is joining us now here in the Blue 235 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Jays Land. You never pitched a WBC? Nope, we you 236 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: ever asked. 237 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 7: In twenty seventeen, I was really contemplating doing it, but 238 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: I was coming through that fingerspring broke a knuckle situation. Uh, 239 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 7: so that prevent me from ramping up on time and 240 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 7: then because I was when Jim Leewyn and Jeff jones 241 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 7: Uh did it and I was like, Jonesy, tell me 242 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 7: how I really respect Jonesy a lot. And I remember 243 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 7: he I missed it and I was like, I wanted 244 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 7: to do it so bad, and He's like, Max, you 245 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 7: gotta really think about not doing this. It's just too early. 246 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 5: Uh. 247 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 7: You know, these guys are really I mean, these are 248 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 7: playoff games, and you're really you know, the guys are 249 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 7: really talking about how this is hard on their arms. 250 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 7: And uh, I'll never forget that conversation that he really 251 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 7: warned me about the dangers of this. And when I 252 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 7: had an opportunity maybe in twenty twenty two to do it, 253 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 7: I just went with the Mets and it was just 254 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 7: kind of fifty to fifty and I just couldn't pull 255 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 7: the trigger. 256 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: You know. 257 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 7: At that point in time, you know, I realized my 258 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 7: dedication was to the organization. I made a decision not. 259 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: To Okay, that's fair, listen to respect you. If you 260 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: did it, you think of Schoog will get in the heat. 261 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got he's a free agent at the 262 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: end of the year, right it's got a chance to 263 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: make who knows how much. I mean, he still went 264 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: out there for one start, He's putting an impossible situation 265 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: situation here, it's for for everything on table. 266 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 7: Every player wants to do it. Thank you, Thank you 267 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 7: for saying that he wants to do this. Everybody wants 268 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 7: to be out there competing for their country. They're like, 269 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 7: full stop, like there's just no argument about that. Everybody 270 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 7: wants to It's just you have a risk factor to this, 271 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 7: and which you know this is hard on your arms. 272 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 7: What I just said, you're walking into playoff baseball max 273 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 7: intensity without being properly built up, and so that's a 274 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 7: huge risk factor to try to take on. I get 275 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 7: what I've been there. I get why you don't do it. 276 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 7: I get why people do want to do it. You know, 277 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 7: it really takes a narrow band to really be able 278 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 7: to be early, to be able to ramp up early, 279 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 7: to be able to take on that type of stress early. 280 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 7: So you know, that's where I wish this deternament was 281 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 7: just pushed back two weeks, you know, if it started now, 282 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 7: like if it started now, all right, now, I'm built 283 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 7: up to seventy five eighty pitches. Okay, that's a much 284 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 7: easier You're you're closer to being to mid season form, 285 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 7: so that way you we protect the pictures if you 286 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 7: had the proper ramp up time. 287 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 5: Do they would they ever listen to that part? I mean, 288 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: I get it, it bumps it right to the end 289 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: of spring training, but because you're saying this, a player 290 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 5: who has stayed healthy had an incredible Hall of Fame career, 291 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 5: and do you feel like they would listen to that. 292 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 7: I don't know all the things that I play, but 293 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 7: I've advocated for take the first week out of the season, 294 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 7: drop from one sixty two to one fifty five or 295 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 7: something to that effect, so that way the pitchers can 296 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 7: ramp up and then, uh, you know when basically opening 297 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 7: day is, you know those are the you know kind 298 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 7: of the you know those high intensity games. You're ready 299 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 7: for that. I mean, Opening day is a high intensity game. 300 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 7: You're ready for that. But you got to be built 301 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 7: up for that. So it really just takes two weeks. 302 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 7: Two more weeks here and you would, in my opinion, 303 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 7: you'd really drop the risk factor for pitchers and I'd 304 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 7: see you get everybody to participate. You kind of would 305 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 7: lose the uh, you know, everybody, all the teams, you know, 306 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 7: kind of micromanaging whether the guys can pitch or not. 307 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 7: You know, you would that would fall by the wayside 308 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 7: because now you're properly built up. 309 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: You know why they don't do that though, right I understand, 310 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: but because because money they'd have to lose the week 311 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: of the season. 312 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 7: Right, But so you know, you know, And but there's 313 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 7: two things you can say to that. 314 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 6: Is. 315 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 7: One, the WC is great, Like everybody's watching, so it's 316 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 7: already a great event. Can you imagine if all the 317 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 7: players are in, it's even better. You know, you're you're 318 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 7: having even better baseball, So ThEC could be even better 319 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 7: in in that with that regard. And two, I mean, 320 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 7: I know, you know Opening Day is you know, a 321 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 7: big day. But outside of that, the games in April, 322 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 7: those are not high revenue games, you know, for the 323 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 7: league's purpose, so you'd actually be trading out, you know, 324 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 7: to make the game better, to make the WBC better 325 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 7: and make fans watch baseball, you know, make this even 326 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 7: kind of bigger and better. Just have it be right 327 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 7: there in April, would you know, to me make the 328 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 7: game itself better by you know, like I said, just 329 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 7: losing a week. 330 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting because most people say, oh, move it 331 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: to the All Star break. That doesn't work because then 332 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: you have most of the league other than the guys 333 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: playing that have to sit out for two weeks, like, 334 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: you can't do that, and then you don't want to 335 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: play games in the middle of July without your best 336 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: some of your best players, and then you're playing for 337 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: your pennant, which is at the end of the year 338 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: is how you get paid, and you're losing half the 339 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: team and they're gone, right, so there's no and you 340 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: can't do it after because there's different reasons after. 341 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: That doesn't work. 342 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 7: So right, if you take two weeks in the middle season, well, 343 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 7: that creates a lot of injury factors for the rest 344 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 7: of the league. So you know, to me, where here's 345 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 7: the perfect slice here, it's just it's right now. You 346 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 7: know it started right now, and that would solve a 347 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 7: lot of this. 348 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. I've never heard that. All right, 349 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: let's get to you a little bit. Are you in 350 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: the best shape of your life? Because you look good? 351 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 7: No, I feel good. No, I've had a great off season, 352 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 7: really trained well really uh yeah, put myself in a 353 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 7: good position, and you know they hit the ground run 354 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 7: as soon as I got back here in the spring, 355 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 7: and I feel good, ready, ready to get out there. 356 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: How's your hand? Yeah, thumbs good? Yeah, thumbs good. What 357 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: did you tell us you did for your thumb last year? 358 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: You had something you did special for your thumb? Remember 359 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: your thumb? 360 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm keeping that secret. 361 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine. He 362 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: told us on the show, though, or you just told 363 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: me when I yeah. 364 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 7: I told you. 365 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: Oh shoot, I apologize, You're good. I didn't. 366 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: This is why we were thinking any nice things. Well, this 367 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 5: is why, this is why I can't gossip because I 368 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 5: can't remember. I can't remember what he told me. 369 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: I was hoping, I actually forgot. 370 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: What is it that you're looking for in spring right 371 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: now at your age? Is it how you bounce back 372 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: when you say you feel good? Or is it how 373 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: you feel on your second or third up or your 374 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: third inning of of a four inning out all of it? 375 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 7: How you feel during the game, how you how you're progressing, 376 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 7: how do you recover out of it? You know, when 377 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 7: you get your bullpen, how do you feel in your bullpen? 378 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 7: You know, you're just paying attention to all of it. 379 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 7: How you're training, you know, for me, Uh so checking 380 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 7: a lot of boxes here and uh, you know, finish, 381 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 7: finish off spring here and get ready. 382 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: For the season. 383 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: What have they told you about the season? Are you starting? 384 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Are doing six man? Are they doing they? You know, 385 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to solve that. 386 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not just pitch when they tell you, 387 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 7: pitch when they tell me, you know, tell them how 388 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 7: I'm feeling, and uh take the ball on ay too? 389 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: How how how late was it Toronto or bus for you? 390 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Was it Toronto or bus for you? Because I listen, 391 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: we saw your daughter letter, which was believable, like. 392 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 6: In the middle of things. 393 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: For people that have daughters, it's like brings you here 394 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: to your eyes. Your kids can write something like that. 395 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Yep. So was it Toronto or bus for you? Or? 396 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: Are there are other teams in play that you would 397 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: have gone to? 398 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 7: There were have been a couple of other teams, but 399 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 7: I mean, I really wanted to come back to Toronto. 400 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 7: I just know in freeingen Syed, things get sideways. I look, 401 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 7: I've been in free so many times thinking it was 402 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 7: going to break one way and it doesn't break the 403 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 7: way that you think it's going to break. And uh 404 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 7: so I had to, you know, if I wanted to 405 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 7: play this year, I had to have the you know, 406 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 7: know that it might not be Toronto and thinking it 407 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 7: might not be, but at the end of the day, 408 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 7: I wanted it to be. 409 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: And so. 410 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 7: You know, fortunately everything happened the way it needed to happen, 411 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 7: and uh you know, I got the call when I 412 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 7: needed needed and was able to get a deal done. 413 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 5: Last time you were on, I forgot to ask this 414 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 5: last year, Clayton Kershaw got his complimentary All Star selection. 415 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: I think it's a cool thing that Major League Baseball does. 416 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 5: Does somebody come to you part way through last season 417 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 5: and say, would you like the complimentary All Star selection 418 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: or is it something that when you accept that, we 419 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: know that's going to be your last year? 420 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It was the same answer. First. 421 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 7: I didn't even get a phone call. But yeah, we'll 422 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 7: cross that bridge at a different time. For me, it's 423 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 7: just going out there and be healthy and go out 424 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 7: there and pitch. 425 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: What changed in the post season for you? Just health, 426 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: just a health thing. Yeah, good, you were really good 427 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: in the postseason and people were like, wow, Max, why 428 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: is Max? Suers are starting and then and then you 429 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: go out and they're like, yeah, watch this. 430 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 7: You know, month of September got away from me. Ironically enough. 431 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 7: It was actually my left side. I'm kind of calling 432 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 7: this a Bermuda triangle between like my left shoulder and 433 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 7: to my back to my neck, you know, on the 434 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 7: left left side. Uh, it was affecting me more than 435 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 7: I'd like to admit that I wasn't quite able to 436 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 7: get through the pitches in the same way I could 437 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 7: take the ball. You know, you're in a playoff hunt. 438 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 7: Can you go or not go? I could go, you know, 439 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 7: I could go out there and physically throw the ball. Unfortunately, 440 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 7: I had lost kind of my effectiveness. It wasn't quite 441 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 7: the same arm. And so you know during that time, uh, 442 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 7: when I wasn't on the roster, you know, I got 443 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 7: a Corson shot there and my upper trap and that 444 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 7: you know, freed everything up. So that way, when you know, 445 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 7: once on's that tension released, uh and kind of my 446 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 7: neck that Uh, then I could go out there and 447 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 7: be normal and go out there and get through the 448 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 7: ball the way I always can. And I was able 449 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 7: to throw the ball really well in the postseason. 450 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: Do they have all do they have all the things 451 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: you need here? Everyone talks about like the facilities with 452 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 5: the Blue Jays, And does that go into your decision 453 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 5: to re sign back? 454 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 7: I'd say more Toronto does an amazing job of taking 455 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 7: care of the families. I mean, this might be one one 456 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 7: in terms of what they do on and off the field, 457 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 7: of what they do, uh for all the kids and wives, 458 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 7: and uh really makes for a great atmosphere, uh for me. 459 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 7: In terms of facilities, yeah, they're great. I mean, look, 460 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 7: I can train in great facilities. 461 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: It's great. 462 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 7: But you can also I learned in COVID. You can 463 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 7: just give me a couple you know, weights, weaight vests 464 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 7: and some bands and I can actually train on my 465 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 7: own and be ready for the season. So I can 466 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 7: have nothing to be ready, or I can have everything 467 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 7: and be ready. It just really comes down to how 468 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 7: you train all. 469 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Right before before we let you go. We had Chris 470 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: Baston on last week. He came out barefooted. He said 471 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't wear shower shoes, I know, and then he 472 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: said there was teammates that gave him some grief for 473 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: not wearing shower shoes. He didn't say who it was. 474 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you who it was, But 475 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: did people give him grief? Because that's one of the 476 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: most I told him to his face. It's one of 477 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: the most disgusting things I've ever heard. 478 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: I share. 479 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 7: I share your sentiment. I played with him in New York. 480 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 7: He wasn't doing it then. Oh so this is a 481 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 7: new thing, like a new thing. So I came over here. 482 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: In my bash. What are you doing? 483 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 7: You're not wearing shower shoes like this is disgusting. And 484 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 7: you know, we had different ways to try to incentivize 485 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 7: him to put on shower shoes. Those failed, and then 486 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 7: it was just like this guy, what was his reason? 487 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 7: I still don't know. I I still don't get it. 488 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: That's that's one of the that's one of the grossest, 489 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: worst things I've ever heard as a teammate. 490 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: At some point, you did he get funk? Did he 491 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: get fun? Good? 492 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 7: We were trying to give it to him. 493 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 494 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Well back, You're always one of our favorites. Thanks you 495 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you stay healthy this year. I 496 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to watch you pitch all year. 497 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, appreciate it. Thank you. 498 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 3: Get ready we're ready. He's here. 499 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 6: You want what's up to? 500 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: Shane Bieber's here. He asked me before he came on, 501 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: He said, how what do you guys want me to say? 502 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: Should I say something really crazy? And I said, well, absolutely, 503 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: please say something crazy. 504 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 6: You said, no curse words. 505 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: No curse words, Actually, don't curse you can you can 506 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: say whatever you want. 507 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 7: No. 508 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 6: I mean, maybe we'll work our way into that. 509 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 8: But I heard you guys asking, you know, maybe the 510 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 8: difference between the W in the World Series. Obviously there's 511 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 8: been a bit of a debate with that, right, But 512 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 8: I haven't had the honor and the privilege of of 513 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 8: strapping the USA on the chest, So it's hard for 514 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 8: me to speak for those guys. But what a tournament, right, 515 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 8: And you could see the passion that guys are playing 516 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 8: with in mid March, you know, I think it's it's 517 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 8: fantastic for the game of baseball. 518 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 6: At the very least. 519 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: Would you do it if they asked if you were healthy? 520 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: Because Max we had Max on here and he said 521 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: he was asked one year and he wasn't one hundred percent. 522 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And I think that I think that's what 523 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 8: was great about it this year. 524 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: Is. 525 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 8: You know, guys around the league, it. 526 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 6: It felt even more notable. 527 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 8: You know, it's been notable in the past as well, 528 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 8: but it's gaining a lot of steam. 529 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: And what a competition. 530 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 8: There's so many good teams and players on on quite 531 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 8: a big stage. It's a great it's a great I 532 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 8: think it puts the game at baseball in a great 533 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 8: spot headed into April. 534 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: For sure. For sure. 535 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: Is it a weird thing that all you starters, well 536 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: not all the starters on blue just have to have 537 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: a funky mustache because Golfman had it. 538 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: I know, is it bunky or is it just I 539 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 6: don't know. I can't see has one me funky? 540 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 3: Funky? 541 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 7: Has one? 542 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: Didn't have one in Max doesn't have one. Did they 543 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: get the pass? 544 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess so. I don't know if it was 545 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 6: a team rule. I just had one when I came 546 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 6: over last year. 547 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 8: I told those guys that it wasn't normal for me 548 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 8: at the end of the year, and they're like, what 549 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 8: do you mean. 550 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: You know, when you have a look, people expect you 551 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 6: to always look that way. But I like it. It's 552 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: gaining some traction. 553 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: Okay, his wife like it, Yeah. 554 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 6: She loves it. 555 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 8: I shaved it for a bit in the off season, 556 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 8: and she surprised me and she's like, you gotta. 557 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, wow, Dash Daddy. 558 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 6: And Hill and dash Daddy. I like it. Yeah, looks 559 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 6: like who is it? 560 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 561 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 6: That guy from Tombstone? I tell him all the time. 562 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 6: Oh your Huckleberry. 563 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 8: Oh oh yeah, yeah, he really looks like him. It's 564 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 8: a good look for for Dylan. 565 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: He's got the long white handles, it's untamed hair. Yeah, 566 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen him care like that. Yeah, he looks 567 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: like you. 568 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 5: Look like do you look like a State trooper? 569 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 6: I'll take state trooper. I will take Oh my gosh, 570 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: who's that guy? You gotta. 571 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 8: Yep, there it is Cody Ponce gave me tom Selle. 572 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 8: I will take that all day. 573 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: This is a little thicker though, Yeah, no, I trim 574 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: it down. 575 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 6: Maybe I'll let it go. I'll let it go for 576 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 6: a bit. 577 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: You're gonna be running around shirtless. 578 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 6: And if you keep calling it because yeah, yeah. 579 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: Funky as probably wasn't the proper terminology. Just maybe more 580 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they all have pon. Ponce has the 581 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: long hair and the whole facial hair thing going to. 582 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 8: The Blue Jays have a type I guess huh. 583 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: Yes, like a woman that keeps dating the wrong person. 584 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: The Blue Jays have a type. 585 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: And they like they're starting pictures with. 586 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 6: Long hairunky, funky, and the wrong person. I'm hearing you. 587 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 6: I'm hearing you. 588 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 5: All right, no more facial hair. The question is qualifying offer. 589 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 5: You accepted it after what you did in the postseason, 590 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 5: and you came out and you said how much you 591 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 5: loved it. Here explain that like process. To us as 592 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 5: outsiders were like, holy crap, this dude's gonna go out 593 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 5: and he's gonna be a great pick in the free 594 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: agency and you go back to where you had so 595 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: much fun. 596 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't the QO. 597 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 8: I had a player option, So I'm sorry. 598 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, no worries. 599 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 8: Ultimately, like last year was the most fun I've ever had. 600 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 8: Obviously it didn't end the way that we wanted to, 601 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 8: but the togetherness of that locker room and the bonds 602 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 8: that we were able to forge within that locker room, 603 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 8: and and honestly the whole organization from top to bottom, 604 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 8: I was, you know, pleasantly surprised and and I'd always 605 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 8: heard great things about Toronto, but to experience that first 606 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 8: and firsthand, not just myself, but my family, my wife 607 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 8: and my son, you know, my parents, my brother. We 608 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 8: just had the best time and we sat down and 609 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 8: we talked about it, and you know, this is a 610 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 8: place that we love to be and wanted to be 611 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 8: here for for the future. And so you know, obviously 612 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 8: it helped getting so close last year and having a 613 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 8: little bit of a sour taste in the mouth at 614 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 8: the end of the year, and hopefully we're able to 615 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 8: go go back and you know, make it one step 616 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 8: further this year. 617 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: Did your son Your son's young. 618 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, you're young. 619 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: Ye, he just turned one, Okay, because he's not writing 620 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: a letter like Max's daughter No Toronto. 621 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was awesome. I didn't know about that until 622 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 8: it was posted, right. 623 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: Well, Max said he sat on it for two months, 624 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: did he He sat on it for two months? 625 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 6: That was cute. 626 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 8: And and they're actually I just ran into them and 627 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 8: was talking to them for a second. Uh, he's got 628 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 8: his kids here and his family here. So yeah, I mean, 629 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 8: I think it just speaks volumes to the organization how 630 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 8: they take care of not just the players, with the families. 631 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 8: And I think you guys have all heard that probably 632 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 8: quite a bit from not just myself but the other 633 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 8: guys in the locker room. It goes a really long. 634 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: Way when you're People were like, why is Shane Bieber 635 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: taking this? Why as you're picking up his option, he 636 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: could be a freezient. And I said, there's something to 637 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: be said for being comfortable in a place where you're happy, 638 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: your wife's happy, your family's happy. You like the guys 639 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: a lot. You guys are winning. It's only you guys 640 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: finished last last year. 641 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 6: Yeah right, Yeah, no, I fantastic locker room. 642 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 8: Obviously, Like coming off of TJ right into a Pennant 643 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 8: race and going into the playoffs and pitching some pretty 644 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 8: high leverage innings, I was, you know, I was advised 645 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 8: to maybe take some some time off slow play the 646 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 8: build up, which is where I'm at right now. I'm 647 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 8: feeling great and getting after it and long toss hopefully 648 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 8: touching them out here soon. 649 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 6: It kind of all just made sense. 650 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 8: But on top of that, like I said, just so 651 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 8: many different factors within the organization to be able to 652 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 8: want to be here, myself and my family and the guys, 653 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 8: I'm happy to run it back. 654 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 5: How are you going to be able to or how 655 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 5: are you going to know when you're hitting the next step. 656 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 5: You said, somebody advised you to say, you know, slowly 657 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 5: build that up, which I think is smart. So you're 658 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: ready for the postseason again, But how are you going 659 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: to know when you're at a certain point. Is it 660 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 5: going to be a feel Is it going to be 661 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: that bounce back that you kind of talked about last year. 662 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: Some days it feels good, some days it doesn't. 663 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of everything, right, 664 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 8: just trying to know yourself, put yourself in the best 665 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 8: position to succeed, you know, for for the team. Really, 666 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 8: I'm feeling great. I'm chomping at the bit, but at 667 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 8: the same time, like I see how it all went 668 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 8: last year. You know, I think we all have a 669 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 8: taste for for the playoffs and what that means for 670 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 8: not just the organization but or the city of Toronto, 671 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 8: but the country, the entire country of Canada. 672 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 6: So I'm very hopeful to be able to get back there. 673 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 6: And you know, that's what I'm working towards each and 674 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: every day. 675 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 8: It's it's hard to say, like you know what you're 676 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 8: looking for, but you know, within my catch play, I 677 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 8: feel fantastic. I can't wait to get on the bump 678 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 8: and get it rolling. 679 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit last year, I think, and 680 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: you said this, like when you come back from TJ, 681 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: it's one start and the next start is in, and 682 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: the next start is good again. It's kind of back 683 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: and forth with you're almost two years out. 684 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, two years maybe next month. And I think that's 685 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 8: when they say, like the graph fully matures. It's not 686 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 8: a perfect science, right, But like I said, yeah, pushed 687 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 8: it pretty hard last year and was happy to do so. 688 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 8: I'd give anything to be in that position again. So 689 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 8: I hope to be able to do that. 690 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: And it feels normal ish, back to where you were 691 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: before the surgery. Yeah, and what does that mean? Explain 692 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: to people what that means. 693 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Feeling like when the ball comes out of your hand, 694 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: when you finish your recovery. 695 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: What does normal feel like for a starting pitcher, just. 696 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 8: Not thinking about it right, being able to execute pitches 697 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 8: time and time again, locate the zone all four quadrants. 698 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 8: I think guys coming off with TJ, you know, some 699 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 8: guys have great experiences that first year. Some guys don't, 700 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 8: and they struggle for a few years. It's like I said, 701 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 8: it's not a perfect science. So you just hope to 702 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 8: be able to go out there and compete. And as 703 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 8: hard as it is to slow play it right now, 704 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 8: I'm doing my best keeping the the long term. 705 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: So what do you say to someone like bout in 706 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: Francis it just had Tommy John not that long. What 707 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: do you say to him? 708 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 6: I know he was a little frustrated. 709 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 8: You know, that's completely normal and understandable. But you know 710 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 8: he's in a really good spot. 711 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: He's except for his hair. 712 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 6: You don't like his hair. He's got a stash he does. 713 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 6: He fits in so that works. He he fits in. 714 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 8: But I think even though it's not a perfect science, 715 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 8: they've got these programs, they're very lengthy, right, and you 716 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 8: put the work in day in and day out, and 717 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 8: you know that you're putting your best foot forward. You're 718 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 8: going to be in a good spot and I know 719 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 8: he'll do that. 720 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 5: How are you able to or what are some of 721 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 5: the parallels of your relationship with Tray's Savage moving forward 722 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 5: this year and your relationship with Corey Klueber when you 723 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 5: first got called up in twenty eighteen. 724 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 8: Oh, I'd appreciate to be to be that for Trey. 725 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 6: I think in his. 726 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 8: From his perspective, he's got a lot of great guys 727 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 8: in that locker room to be able to you know, 728 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 8: pull from, to learn from. Obviously, like it's hard to 729 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 8: put into words what he was able to do last year, 730 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 8: the physical and emotional maturity of not even pitching in 731 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 8: Big League spring and hitting all those stops along the way, 732 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 8: and then to have the postseason that he did was 733 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 8: nothing short of amazing. I know he's chomping at the 734 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 8: bit to be able to do that again this year. 735 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 8: So we're just hopeful to be able to get the opportunity. 736 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 8: But always there for him. Obviously, he throws, He's very 737 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 8: unique in the in the way that he throws and 738 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 8: releases the baseball, and so you know, it takes a 739 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 8: little bit of time to learn how how he operates 740 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 8: and what makes him tick and. 741 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 6: What makes him good. 742 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 8: But like I said, lucky for Trey, I think he's 743 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 8: got a bunch of fantastic guys with with great pedigrees 744 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 8: to be able to pull from within the organization. 745 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Were two catchers on this show. You've had a nice 746 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: run of catchers. Roberto Perez, Heggy was there with you. 747 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: Now you have Aleandro kurb What makes these guys so 748 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: special as catchers. 749 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 6: I think they're all unique, right. 750 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 8: I think they're great receivers of the baseball and they 751 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 8: think they put their themselves in fantastic positions. 752 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 6: Obviously that's gonna be. 753 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: Like we forgot. 754 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, yan Jan caught my debut. That was that was awesome. 755 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 8: I appreciate all those guys for for everything they've done. 756 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 8: And I'm curious what you guys think about the the 757 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 8: A B S. 758 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: But as no pictures are allowed to do it, Oh no, 759 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: no pictures are as smart as as smart as Max. 760 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 6: Thank you. We think everything's a strike. 761 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 8: You guys make it look good, right, and you're still 762 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 8: going to be doing that this year, and so you 763 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 8: try and let the catchers do the work on that end. 764 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 6: But I think they're all unique, right. 765 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 8: And with Hedgy it was obviously he's got tremendous hands, 766 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 8: they all do, but the way he prepares was unlike 767 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 8: anybody else. I think he did that not just for himself, 768 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 8: but with Bo. Bo's an incredible catcher as well, and 769 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 8: all those guys within that organization. Kirk, he's tremendous back 770 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 8: there with the way he puts his the way he feels. 771 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 6: For the zone. 772 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 8: I think he's going to be tremendous with the ABS 773 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 8: this year. Obviously, his bat is is incredible and we 774 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 8: love to have him up at the plate. But like 775 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 8: you said, I think that's just the best way to 776 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 8: put I've been blessed with some great catchers. 777 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 6: I'm very lucky for that. 778 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: Always remember thank your catcher. 779 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Of course, some storting pictures forget that crotchy as you know, they. 780 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 8: Think Gus forget it in between pens too, like, yeah, 781 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 8: you always got it. 782 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: They don't forget. They don't forget. Okay, Well, Shane, thanks 783 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: for joining us. We really appreciate. We hope you're healthy. 784 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: We hope you get back, have a great year, and 785 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: have another deep run into the postseason.