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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. We've got some aerospace

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Speaker 1: royalty here in the room, as you say, Larry Culp,

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Speaker 1: the CEO and chair of General Electric, the world's biggest

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Speaker 1: jet engine manufacturer. John this is a company that is

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Speaker 1: newly independent. It's a standalone business. The first time we've

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Speaker 1: see numbers being reported on that basis, and the numbers

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Speaker 1: we've seen being reported look good and being taken well

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Speaker 1: by the market. That stock I think is up circa

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Speaker 1: three percent this morning. It looks like a beat and

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Speaker 1: a rays from Larry Culp. Good morning, good afternoons. I

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Speaker 1: probably should say nice to have you with us, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: I good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Talk me through, took me through the strength, taught me

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Speaker 1: through where it has come from. Where is the strength

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Speaker 1: of this beaten rays within the business?

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Speaker 2: Well, guy, it's really rooted in the demand that we

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Speaker 2: see both from the airlines and from the airframers for

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Speaker 2: more of what we do. Seventy percent of Gerospace on

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Speaker 2: a standalone basis comes in the aftermarket, supporting the airlines

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Speaker 2: with parts, with services of all types to keep today's

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Speaker 2: fleets in the air and given the activity that they're

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Speaker 2: seeing with the flying public. It's all we can do

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Speaker 2: to keep up with what they'd like to see from us.

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Speaker 2: So the sixty plus percent improvement in earnings, the nearly

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Speaker 2: twenty percent improvement in free cash we announced today is

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Speaker 2: really a function of the strength that we're seeing in

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Speaker 2: our commercial engines and services business in the aftermarket.

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Speaker 1: Is that sustainable? Does that carry on throughout the rest

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Speaker 1: of this year into twenty twenty five? Is that something

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Speaker 1: that is here now gone tomorrow? Because we're starting to

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Speaker 1: see some warnings coming through, particularly from the narrow body

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Speaker 1: OPERATESUS in the United States, and as of the beginning

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Speaker 1: of this week with run here.

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Speaker 2: In Europe, well, we've certainly seen those as well. It

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Speaker 2: seems like that commentary is really geared more toward pricing

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Speaker 2: than anything else. But if you look at our order

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Speaker 2: book in the second quarter alone, nearly forty percent year

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Speaker 2: every year we see our utilization of the fleets, both

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Speaker 2: the mature fleet which we power with the CFM fifty

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Speaker 2: six have been steady. An engine that folks might thought

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Speaker 2: might begin to fade our newer generation technology, the leap

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Speaker 2: engine on both the seventy three seven Max and the

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Speaker 2: Neo at Airbus that's probably four points in terms of share,

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Speaker 2: so our utilization could not be higher even just looking

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Speaker 2: at the third quarter here, we have probably ninety percent

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Speaker 2: of our third quarter projection in backlog today with respect

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Speaker 2: to parts. So in terms of the demand signals we're

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Speaker 2: seeing from our customers, things are strong.

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Speaker 1: The hours being flown are going to remain consistent, you think.

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Speaker 2: We believe so, and going forward they're going to increase.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of the oldest story, that's the existing

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Speaker 1: fleet that's already out there. As you say, the maintenance,

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Speaker 1: the maintenance story is very strong. The margin off that

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Speaker 1: is very very strong. The story sting of the Farmberas

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Speaker 1: Show and all the air shows recently and throughout this

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Speaker 1: industry has been what has been happening with the supply chain.

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Speaker 1: Ab Bus Learning gets guidance for the year talking about

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Speaker 1: engines within that guidance. Is the supply chain story getting

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Speaker 1: better or is it getting worse?

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Speaker 2: Guy, I'm strongly of the view it's getting better. It's

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Speaker 2: really all about the rate of improvement. And what we

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Speaker 2: shared earlier today with investors is that we didn't have

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Speaker 2: the output that we had anticipated in the second quarter

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Speaker 2: with our newest generation engine in particular with our Leap engine.

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Speaker 2: But we're going in using our flight deck, our lean

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Speaker 2: operating model to help our suppliers help us jointly problem

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Speaker 2: solving YEP, really understanding constraints at the point of impact,

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Speaker 2: and we saw tremendous results from that in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: Didn't translate into as many deliveries, perhaps as our frame

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Speaker 2: or customers would have liked, but we saw two thirds

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Speaker 2: of the suppliers that we worked with improve their output

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Speaker 2: to us by nearly twofold. It's discouraging.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of told me through what's happening. So originally

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Speaker 1: the guidance was for twenty five percent improvement for that engine.

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Speaker 1: Then you went, I think it was an eight. You

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Speaker 1: are kind of ten to fifteen. Now you're a kind

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Speaker 1: of flat to five exactly. That feels like it's not

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Speaker 1: getting better. You're telling me that it is below the

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Speaker 1: surface is getting better.

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Speaker 2: It's not getting better at the rate that we had anticipated,

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Speaker 2: but it's getting better. If you look at the sequential

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Speaker 2: trends and that from an operating perspective, that's all that

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Speaker 2: really matters. Week in week out, quarter in quarter out.

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing more and are we seeing more predictably. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're getting better in that regard. I'm encouraged by what

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Speaker 2: I've seen here just in the first three weeks of July.

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Speaker 2: A lot of work not only in the second half

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Speaker 2: still in front of us, but as we think about

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Speaker 2: twenty five and twenty six, but working in that way,

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Speaker 2: yielding those sorts of results will I think put us

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Speaker 2: all on the ramp.

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Speaker 1: So the benefit comes next year. That's when we start

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Speaker 1: to see the big benefit coming through.

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Speaker 2: I think some of the actions that we took in

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Speaker 2: the second quarter will help us in the third quarter

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Speaker 2: and in the fourth quarter of this year.

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Speaker 1: Why is it taking this is a question I put

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Speaker 1: the gill four you. Why is it taking so long

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Speaker 1: to resolve this issue within the supply chain?

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Speaker 2: Well, I saw a gillom yesterday. We talk about this

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Speaker 2: every time we're together. I think it's important for everyone

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Speaker 2: to remember, guy, that we turned the industry down to

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Speaker 2: almost zero during the pandemic, and what we're trying to

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Speaker 2: do now is turn it all the way back on.

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Speaker 2: And that's hard. We lost not only people during the pandemic,

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Speaker 2: we lost a tremendous amount of experience technical people throughout

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Speaker 2: the supply chain. In GIMP's facilities, at Boeing, at g

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Speaker 2: Eero space and throughout the supply chain. We're building all

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Speaker 2: of that capability back and because those roles are filled

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Speaker 2: now not by a fifty eight year old, but perhaps

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Speaker 2: by a twenty eight year old, there's a lot we

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Speaker 2: have to do in terms of not only adding capacity

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Speaker 2: but capability to meet the ramp that we all marked upon.

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Speaker 1: He told me this one. He thinks we've already got

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Speaker 1: another couple of years Togo though, until we resolved some

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Speaker 1: of these issues. Does that timeline feel kind of about

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Speaker 1: right to you as well?

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Speaker 2: We're trying to make progress every week, but I think

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Speaker 2: this is a multi year effort that the industry faces.

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Speaker 1: In terms of what we bring up gilforty. How is

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Speaker 1: your relationship changing with their bus? You traditionally be really

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Speaker 1: tight with Boeing, tom Endos, I know, well, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: now is now on your board? Does that does that

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Speaker 1: signal to change in relationship with that bus? Well?

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Speaker 2: I think we have served both of the major air

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Speaker 2: framers well over time. Right we don't have over two

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Speaker 2: thirds of the departures in the narrow body space serving

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Speaker 2: Boeing alone. We're very excited about the news we put

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Speaker 2: out last week with the A three twenty one xl

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Speaker 2: R now approved but only proved with the GDE Leap

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Speaker 2: one A right our engine. So there's a lot that

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Speaker 2: we're doing with Airbus, not only in terms of the

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Speaker 2: ramp but next generation technology as well, and we're trying

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Speaker 2: to be as strong and as good a partner to

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Speaker 2: Gillom and Christian and their teams as we possibly can be.

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Speaker 2: We want to do the same thing with the folks

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Speaker 2: at Boeing. Of course, yep, we can do that as

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Speaker 2: long as we invest into technology, use flight deck to

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Speaker 2: deliver safety, quality, delivery and cost to their requirements and

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Speaker 2: jointly serve the airlines.

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Speaker 1: Defense and just spend a moment if we can as

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Speaker 1: we conclete things. Talking about defense, do you think spend

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Speaker 1: spending is going up? Do you think that Trump presidency

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Speaker 1: would mean great to defense spending? Do you see defense

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Speaker 1: spending going up in Europe in a Trump presidency because

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Speaker 1: of the requirements in terms of that's GDP not that's

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Speaker 1: GDP spending to GDP. How do you see that story

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Speaker 1: progressing and what does it mean ultimately for Ge?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think on both sides of the Atlantic. Given

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Speaker 2: the authorities that I speak with, spending will be paced

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Speaker 2: by the threat, and the threat is only increasing. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: be it in combat aircraft, be it in rotary craft.

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Speaker 2: The two areas that we serve most directly, we think

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Speaker 2: we will see looking out over the next five to

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Speaker 2: ten years, have sustained growth.

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Speaker 1: Just one final quick question before I'm full of throw

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Speaker 1: banks at this GDA. Was it an easy decision to

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Speaker 1: continue your contract? Can I one hundred percent rule you

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Speaker 1: out as a Boeing job?

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Speaker 2: How about one hundred and one percent?

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Speaker 1: One hundred and one percent, There you go, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and one percent. I know the guys in the studio

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Speaker 1: were talking about this a little bit earlier on. So

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Speaker 1: one hundred and one percent, there you go, John, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and one percent. Larry Kulp is staying at

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Speaker 1: GE and a fantastic set of numbers delivered earlier on today.

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Speaker 1: Looks like the market likes what it hears.