1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Chris Harry with you on a new 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: episode of Chargers Weekly. It's been a busy week in 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Coast to Mesa. All the coordinator who have been announced. 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley obviously announced as a seventeenth head coach at 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: franchise history last week. So it's time for a beat 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: writer's round table, joined by Joe Ready, Associated press Fernando Ramirez, 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Sports illustrated in the La Times is Jeff Miller. Gentlemen, 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: it's been a while. How are you guys doing. I'm 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: doing tremendous. How about how about you guys, Fernando, Joe, 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: how are we doing? I'm letting uncle Uncle Joe go first, 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: guys are being Baschel out there? Come on, Jess, you 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: gotta get your saying in this group. Don't wait. Just 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's typical offseason here at DAP. 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: Football's over and time for bad basketball, hockey, women's basketball, 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and everything else it does. It does not end here. 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: They here. Joe's the bo Jackson of the AP. It's 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: every sport. He does everything. No, I mean, just a 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: very interesting press conference. Is that we've just gone through 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of days honestly, very charge events should 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: be excited about the future of their team and kind 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff and all that. Yeah, we just 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: wrapped with Darius Swinton. That guy's a star, the special 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: team's coordinator. We'll get to him a little bit later. 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: But I haven't talked to you guys since Brandon Staley's pressers, 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: So let's just go around the horn. Just your overall 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: impressions of that. I think it was like ninety six minutes. 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Joe will start with you, dude, you stagged in a 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: press conference which has every sports writer. He's he's now 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: the patron saint of sports writers. Maybe looking at getting 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: an NFL job in the future. I mean it used 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: to be it used to be Eric, me and Jeanie 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: because he was a pr intern for the Browns before 33 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: eventually working his way up. But if the guy can 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: take a boys and girls triangular track meet, since we've 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: all had those on deadline, he's good. And as I've 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: told people, he's a Northeast Ohio guy. What's not to like? 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: But very impressive press conference. I think I scored at 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: a thirty five fourteen victory in favor of the press 39 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: conference with the with the win. I think the spread 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: was like eight to ten coming in. But uh, you know, overall, 41 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: I think I think there's a there's a there's a 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: lot to like, especially with the staff that he's building. 43 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Listen Staley won the presser, but a close second was 44 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: Joe Ready for a number of reasons. And we'll get 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: to that a little bit later too, because Chris Long 46 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: was very high on Joe Reidy's performance. And I have 47 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: so many questions about the lower suits and Hennessy parties 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: that I joking was the answer to it a little bit, Jomp? 49 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: What about you? Well, I told somebody after the word 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: that I have no idea how good Brendon Staeley's gonna 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: be as a head coach. None of us do. He's 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: never done it. We'll see, but I don't think the 53 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: Chargers are going to go into many games not being 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: smarter than the other team. He's a smart guy. I 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: don't there's any question about that. And we've heard these stories, 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: right or I've heard some stories. I think everybody probably has. 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: By now. You know, he's sort of got that mind, 58 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: sort of like Sean McVeigh, where he he's very good 59 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: at memory. You know, maybe not memorizing things. But he 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: knows he you know, he reads something, he retains it. 61 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: So he's a really bright guy. And like like we've mentioned, 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I think he's putting together a decent staff here. And again, 63 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: it's so hard to tell on the stuff. Nobody knows 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: until they start to interact with the players, and the 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: players get on the field. Well, we're not going to 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: know how good any of this is going to work out. 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: But but the Charger's definitely got a really bright guy 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: at the time up and we'll just see how it unfolds. 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: And that you know, there's a long ways before this 70 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: team plays a game, but at least to start off, 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: they're starting from a really good foundation. There's no doubt 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: about that. Fernando, he said, you know, his philosophy is 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: going to be built on relationships in competition. And what 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of struck me at the beginning of his presser 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: was the fact that that he's reached out to a 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: ton of guys already. I'm sure he's talked to everybody 77 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: on the roster at this point, but he's also reached 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: out to players of the past, whether it's you know, 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Dan Fouts or Seawan Merriman, Lithenian Tomlinson really trying to 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: get a feel for a the franchise and be just 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: trying to form that that family aspect that you can 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: tell is so important tool you know what. And it's 83 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: very interesting because the quote that struck me about him 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: was from Jalen Ramsey from The Rams Cornerback. We all 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: know Jalen Ramsey isn't afraid to tell you how it is. 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: And for him to say he's the best defensive coordinator 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: I've ever had was very interesting. The way he's builtationships, 88 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: like you said, is great, and it feels like he's 89 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 1: doing that already. I mean, he called Justin Herbert after 90 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: his wife obviously, but called him right after to let 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: him know, Hey, I'm gonna be your new head coach. 92 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you. He's like I 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: wanted him to hear my voice. So that's that's honestly 94 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: huge for him. He's texted a couple of guys. I'm sure, 95 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: like you said, by now, he's already talked to everybody. 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: But it's more it's about building a family, which is 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: interesting that he said that because obviously this Spando's family 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: has that's been their Mantra, So that's very good that 99 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: he's reaching out to some of these legends and kind 100 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: of have them around the game, have them, i mean, 101 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: possibly come to training camp, possibly be around the team 102 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: during the season, which is great. And it just seems 103 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: like everyone you talk to has nothing but positive things 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: to say about Brandon and that's honestly a good thing 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: moving forward. Because he's a young head coach. He was 106 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: only a defensive coordinator for one year, so it's gonna 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: take a little bit of time for him to get 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: adjusted to everything. But if he has the right people 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: and the players already like him, then he's already He's 110 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: already moving in the right direction. Joe. It's such a 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: unique higher in that a lot of people just say, Okay, 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: this is a defensive mind of coach led the rams 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: of the number one overall defensive twenty twenty cut his 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: teeth in the NFL under Vic Fangio. But there's so 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: much more to Brandon Staley in terms of the fact 116 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: that he played quarterback and he seems to look at 117 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: the game from a different lens. In the partnership between 118 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: him and Justin Herbert, I think is going to be 119 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: fascinating what did you take away from what he said 120 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: about Justin and his plan to make Justin the best 121 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: version of himself. I think if newspapers, you know, Jeff, 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys still do NFL special 123 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: sections or not, or if that's a we're doing the past, 124 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: But if nobody tries to use a beautiful mind spoof 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: for to cover this year with Brandon Stale, then they're 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: they're wasting valuable idea time. I think the fact that 127 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: he played quarterback, very offensive minded coming up and then 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: switched to defense. He has the ability to see all 129 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: three facets. And you know, I talked to Tom Arth, 130 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: who who was his boss at John Carroll was rumored 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: to possibly joined his staff until he decided to remain 132 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the head coach at Acker and and he just marvels 133 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: at how he's able to see all three phases of 134 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: the game. And I think it's a head coach we 135 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: get locked so much on he's an offensive or defensive 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: guy that we don't really look at, you know, how 137 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: they've come up and everything. I mean, frankly, you've had 138 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: some defensive guys, you know, who started out playing defense 139 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: and then switched offensive side of the ball. So I 140 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: think he sees everything interrelated to things and all the 141 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: six degrees of separation that it'll be interesting to see, 142 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: especially how he manages games and everything. I was concerned 143 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: about him calling the defensive plays him saying that, but 144 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: considering that Ronaldo Hill is his defensive coordinator. This is 145 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: his first attempt at being a coordinator, and he wants 146 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: to bring him along slowly instead of throwing him in 147 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: a deep end of the pool and see if he 148 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: can sink or swim. I think is I think it's 149 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: a very good move. So I think he looks at 150 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: he micro I think he looks at the micro in 151 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the macro and how everything fits and 152 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: how it all comes together as a puzzle. Let's think 153 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Justin had a record setting season and one of 154 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: the things that Brandon Staley said was he's not gonna 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: put Justin in a system. He's going to make sure 156 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: that Justin is kind of his own system and they 157 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of magnify what he does best. What else did 158 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: you take from just the relationship between what Herbert and 159 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Staley can look like. Well, I thought it was really 160 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: telling that he he facetimed Justin with his family on 161 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: the way to his before his press conference with us, 162 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: because he wanted to share that moment what he said, 163 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, he wanted it. It was such a big moment. 164 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: He wanted Herbert to be a part of that. Yeah, 165 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's relationship building to another level. That's taking 166 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: it to the next step that a lot of people, 167 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: myself included, wouldn't even have considered something like that. And 168 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: to realize how profound that may have impacted Justin Herbert, 169 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: another really smart guy. I mean, these are two really 170 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: bright guys who are going to be working together. So 171 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: it's very interesting to me. I mean, Herbert's twenty two, right, 172 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: he's about to be twenty three, as soon as gonna 173 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: be twenty three. And this team, if you don't think 174 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: the franchises is all in on this guy, I mean 175 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: the fact that their new head coach is going out 176 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: of his way to get Herbert's trust, to get the 177 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: trust of this young quarterback is very telling. And the 178 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: and you know, Brendon Staley said to us, there's nobody 179 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: more important to buy in here than Justin Herbert, and 180 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's quite a that's quite a statement for 181 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: a young man who's played fifteen NFL games. But that's 182 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: what they think of him, and that's what Staley thinks 183 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: of his new quarterback. So they're they're in this together 184 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: their partners. I mean, he said, you know, when we're 185 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: asking about offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches and and that 186 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, he wants to get a partner. He 187 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: didn't say, I want to get a good coach in here. 188 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I want to get a good quarter He wants to 189 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: get a partner for for Justin Herbert. So I thought 190 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: all of that stuff was very telling that how important 191 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: that they viewed Justin Herbert and this, you know, this team. 192 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: He talked about building a system around I don't have 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: any question that he's going to do that because they're 194 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: building this entire franchise and around Justin Herbert right now. 195 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: They are. And you know a couple of themes that 196 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: came up throughout the week and just talking to people, 197 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: Fernando and Stanley mentioned it in his presser. Yeah he's 198 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: a defensive mind, but but look at guys that he 199 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: looks up to in Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick and 200 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee and Mike Tomlin. They all had young quarterbacks 201 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: that they brought along the way, and many of them 202 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: went won Super Bowls. I mean, John Harbo's special teams 203 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: guy with Lamar Jackson that remains to be seen. But 204 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: that and then the fact that Tom Tleska he said 205 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: this in his presser and he said it on the 206 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: podcast last Friday. He talked to Tony Dungee about, you know, 207 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: trying to find the right guy, and Dungee referenced just 208 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: the Steelers model having three coaches in its franchise history 209 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: and they all started it in their thirties. So both 210 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: of those things kind of jumped out of me. You 211 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: know what, Chris, you actually got that one wrong. John 212 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: Harbaugh did win a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco, not 213 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely. Now he's 214 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: doing it again with Lamar Jackson. So it's credit to 215 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: him the way he's taken two two rookie quarterbacks and 216 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of built off of them. But yeah, no, um, 217 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: that really impressed me because I mean, the biggest one 218 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: that we can talk to is is about is Bill 219 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: Belichick and Tom Brady six super Bowl rings. Bill Belichick 220 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: is obviously defensive minded. Tom Brady's the quarterback he developed 221 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: him and and but what you're saying is is completely right. 222 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this relationship has to work. It has to 223 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: work for for the future of this team. Um. I 224 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: feel like it really is going to help Justin out 225 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: to have a defensive minded head coach because I remember 226 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: I read a story where Tom Brady said that during 227 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: the summer in the off season he would sit with 228 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and they'd go over every single defensive team 229 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: they've seen, will see and uh and could see in 230 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs or even in the Super Bowl. That's gonna 231 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: be very interesting to see because I remember I asked 232 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Justin last year and he said he did sit down 233 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: with Gus and they did go over defensive schemes and 234 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I feel like it's only gonna 235 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: help Justin out. To me, in my opinion, the way 236 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: I've seen it is the second year of a starting 237 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: quarterback is their most crucial season because teams have had 238 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: a whole offseason to research. You see what you tick, 239 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: what you can do, what you can do. So it's 240 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be great for Justin and kind 241 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: of get that defensive minded head coach in there, and 242 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: then Obviously he doesn't just have to go with what 243 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Brandon teaches him. It's also what Lombardi teaches him, what 244 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: Ronaldo Hill, because of course Ronaldo Hill is a former player, 245 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: so he can really help Justin out as well. So 246 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: the staff that that Staley is building around him is, 247 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: like you guys have said, to help Justin out a lot, 248 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: but it's also to help the other players and the 249 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: team around and around Justin. So honestly, kudos to them 250 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: for the way they've built this team or the way 251 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: they've built this coaching staff. And obviously these guys aren't 252 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: done yet. They still have a lot of pieces to fix, 253 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: but the way they've done it, you can tell that 254 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: like Jeff and like Uncle Joe have said, they're building 255 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: this staff around, they've building this team in there and 256 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: their identity around Justin Herbert. I think the other thing 257 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: that's important too, when you look at it from Justin's standpoint, 258 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: only once in his six six years of college or 259 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: NFL his he had the same head coach for two years, 260 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: so this is a complete now his fourth different offensive system. 261 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Because I don't know if Arroyo was hired under Taggart 262 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: or Arroyo came in when Mario was named. I forget 263 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: how much of that because Taggart. Taggert brought a few 264 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: of his guys from Oregon to Florida State, but he 265 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: I know he didn't bring to I didn't know he 266 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: didn't bring to OC. But then here you hear what 267 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: John Spano said, and he said, we're I mean, we 268 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: could potentially lose guy. We know that we can potentially 269 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: lose guys when it comes to offensive coordinator's, quarterback coaches 270 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: to other jobs because of the job that Justin might 271 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: be able to do in the future, and because I mean, 272 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: if they do well this season and they make the 273 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: playoffs or whatever, you could potentially lose Joe Lombardi to 274 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: a head coaching job. So it's just that they know 275 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: that they're prepared for that, and it seems like Justin 276 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: has really adjusted well to that, and it seems like 277 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: he's he's kind of used to being in different systems 278 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: and prevailing in those different systems. But I think it 279 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: was important for Staley to reach out too, because if 280 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: you're Justin Herbert, you're thinking, on January fourth or fifth, 281 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: here we go again with another coaching change. Can't I 282 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: get consistency or a bedrock for once, and the fact 283 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: that this guy reached out kind of here's the family 284 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: and everything, here's what we want to do. You know, 285 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: it's Staley's like I called the wife first to let 286 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: him know, I let her know I got the job, 287 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: and then called justin Herbert, where some fans were going, 288 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: well that's the wrong order, but you know, happy wife, 289 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: happy wife, happy life or so or so I've heard. Um. 290 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I think I think that. Um. I think Stanley kind 291 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: of knew that background and everything and how important it 292 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: was to reach out to him off the get go 293 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: and have him buy in immediately. Hey, Jeff, Joe Lombardi 294 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: and first Fornia, you're right in bed Jo by mean 295 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: by not putting Joe Flacco in the elite category. No, 296 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: that was a heck of a run. That was honest 297 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: and did you look back? That was a was a 298 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: pretty impressive run. But I don't know, do you think 299 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Joe will have a gold jacket and ken once he's 300 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean he was, he's one of the best playoff quarterbacks. 301 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Where are you hesitating answer that? Just just say no, no, 302 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, honestly, that run was great. It 303 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: was but I mean you really think he's gonna be no, no, no, no, Well, 304 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: I mean in that run up, he beat uh, he 305 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: beat Andrew Luck, he'd beat Peyton Manning, he beat Tom Brady, 306 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: and then he beat Colin Kaepernick. I mean, honestly, that's 307 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: one one hell of a playoff. There were moments in time, yeah, 308 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: be a first ballot, all the favor right exactly, No, no, no, no, 309 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: six years yes, but yeah, yeah, yeah. First half of 310 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: the career great. Second half of the career not so much. 311 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that's interesting just being in 312 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: that room a couple of times, is that you've got 313 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to you've got to be a transcendent quarterback to get 314 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: in now. And you know, with this generation and everything, 315 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it used to be if you were a 316 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: transcendent quarterback, you were first ballot. I mean, Hackett took 317 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner three, you know, three years to get in. 318 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: So now, I mean, good, good, first half of the career, 319 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: but one ring isn't going to get you in. Speaking 320 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: of transtander quarterbacks, Joe Lombardi's but I think it was 321 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: twelve seasons Jeff with Drew Brees in New Orleans, a 322 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: pair of seasons with Jim Coldwell and Matthew Stafford as 323 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: the OC in Detroit. Um, your oppressions of Joe Lombardi 324 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: and his presser this week, and again he's gonna be 325 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: tied to Justin Herbert. Yeah, it'll be Uh, that's gonna 326 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: be really interesting because it's in Detroit. It didn't go well. Um, 327 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, seven seven games into his second year, he 328 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: was fired and they were that was that was a 329 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: team that was not playing well. I think they were 330 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: one in six and he left and they got better, 331 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: the offense got better. So uh that you know, that's 332 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: a mark on his that's a black mark on his 333 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: his resume right now. And um, he talked about what 334 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: he had learned and then trying to maybe be more flexible, 335 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: being a little more open to um, you know, open 336 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: to what is better for the players, what might work 337 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: better for the talent, as opposed to forcing a system 338 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: on on a team. So we'll see what happens there. 339 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: But he you know, he's a guy who's motivated, no question, 340 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: to prove that he's he's a he's better than that, 341 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: and that was a that was not who he is 342 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: as a coordinator. And he gets a second chance here. 343 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: He's he obviously has a lot of knowledge. Uh, working 344 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton, you expect he's got a great, great 345 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: deal of knowledge from that and just being around Drew Brees, 346 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: he understands how you know what a great quarterback looks like. 347 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: So a lot of experience, uh, no question, a lot 348 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: of knowledge, no question. But a guy who's who's also 349 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: should be highly motivated to to come back and and 350 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: show everybody, hey, look at I can I can do this. 351 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: I can be a success and and I can coordinate 352 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: an offense and do a lot better than what happened 353 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: in Detroit. Because as everybody knows, if you all you 354 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: got to do is go back and look, it wasn't 355 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: that long ago and things did not go well there. 356 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: So he's, uh, he's in a position now, he's got 357 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: a chance to prove otherwise and got a chance to 358 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: prove himself. And so he's a guy I would I 359 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: would think would be would there'd be a lot of 360 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: motivation on his part to get this right. Joe, I 361 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: want to ask you about Ronaldo Hill. But but first, 362 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: real quick, Fernando, when you are under a guy like 363 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: Sean Payton and you're with Drew Brees, even for that 364 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: amount of time after Detroit. I that can do nothing, 365 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: but I think help you in terms of developing a 366 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: young quarterback, knowing that that you got to see Drew 367 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: Brees on a daily basis in his work habits, and 368 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, it's it seems like when you spend a 369 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: year with Sean McVay, like Brandon Daley did that offense, 370 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of that influence on this 371 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Chargers offense. Yeah. No. And you know 372 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: what stood out to me also, Chris is the fact that, um, 373 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean I think differently than a lot of people, 374 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: which is not always a good thing. But in this dance, 375 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: the way he the work that he did with Teddy Bridgewater, 376 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: with with Taysom Hill, and even I mean we didn't 377 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: see that much of Jamis Winson, but I thought the 378 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: way when when Drew Brees would leave, the quarterbacks wouldn't 379 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: skip a beat in a sense. I mean, obviously you 380 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: don't have the veteran leadership of Drew Brees in there, 381 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: but Teddy Bridgewater I think was five and oh with 382 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: this team. Taysom Hill did a good job this season 383 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: as well with the team. So that's very impressive when 384 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: it comes to the job that he did, So that 385 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: that's very impressive with Joe, with Joe Lombardi being able 386 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: to keep the ship right even though you were missing 387 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: your captain. So that was very impressive. And then obviously 388 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater got paid by Carolina. Now it's what can 389 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: you do with Justin Herbert. Hey, he was, like you said, 390 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. Drew Brees. I remember they've They've done 391 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of training camps together with the Chargers. I 392 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: remember as soon as we would get there, I'd go 393 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: over to the same sideline to see what to see 394 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He would be stretching out before the team 395 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: even got there. The team would already like they would 396 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: stretch out do all their stuff and then they would 397 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: go to their individual individuals and stuff like that, Drew 398 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Brees was still stretching. So, I mean, it's just his attention, 399 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: a detail of Drew Brees that really can help Justin 400 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: for the long run and learning some of the things 401 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: that he learned from Drew Brees. Bring it to Justin 402 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, look, I mean, obviously Justin's his 403 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: own court, his own man he's going to figure out 404 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: what's good for him. But having the little pieces of 405 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: advice that maybe Drew Brees could give him, or that 406 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi can give him from Drew Brees can be 407 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: special and they can help justin in the future. But honestly, 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you can go wrong from spending so 409 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: much time with with with Breeze and Peyton. But now, hey, 410 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: it's your show, your offense. Now let's see what you 411 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: can do with it. And like Jeff said, make up 412 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: for the mistakes that you had in Detroit. Let's go 413 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: around the horn on Ronaldo Hill and Darius Swinton. Let's 414 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: start with Ronaldo Hill and Joe. I was really impressed 415 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: by the fact that him and Stanley had such a 416 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: cool partnership in Denver. It seemed like they were trying 417 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: to solve problems. He said. They were in each other's 418 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: offices all the time, probably more than their own office. 419 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Your first oppressions of Ronaldo, I like Ronaldo just for 420 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: him giving us his defensive staff yesterday and U not 421 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: keeping that uh under wraps. I think I think he's 422 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: a He's a good young defensive guy. Came up in 423 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: the Fangio system also played under Nick Saban at Michigan State, 424 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: so there's there's some of those Saban qualities there. And 425 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: in defense, I've heard from a few people in Denver 426 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: that he did very good with the defensive backs. Chris 427 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Harris knows him, so I'm sure many of the defensive 428 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: players are contacting him. And I think, and I think 429 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: Staley too knows that building a diverse staff but also 430 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: putting people in positions to succeed is a key, which 431 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: I think when he said he was going to call 432 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: the defense during his introductory press conference, this was with 433 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Ronaldo Hill or somebody else in mind that I'm not 434 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: going to drown you your first year as a defensive coordinator. 435 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: Learn the basics, get organized, you know, help me out 436 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: during the week, and then maybe in year two or three, 437 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: what you know, I can hand everything to you. So 438 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: so far, so good. And you know the fact that 439 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: they both worked well in Denver is even better. Because 440 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: ed Donitel's son is also coming here to We don't 441 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: know what his position is going to be or anything yet, 442 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: but I think I think the basics of the defensive 443 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: staff's gonna be good, and he's gonna have Joe Berry 444 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: there too, who's been in the league a lot of 445 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: years and knows that knows intricacies of defense. That Eric 446 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Ainsley was a coordinator too, so he'll besides Staley, he'll 447 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: have a good veteran group to lean back on. Jeff, 448 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: I love the fact that his biggest coaching influences Todd Bowles, 449 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: who's over overseeing a defensive unit in Tampa that's playing 450 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl in a couple of Sundays. But 451 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: his his coaching journey in twenty fourteen, he said he 452 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: took a subbatical wentn't just around the country trying to 453 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: pick the brains of some of the biggest programs. Led 454 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: him to pit which led him to the Dolphins, which 455 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: led him to Denver. So a pretty quick rise in 456 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: the NFL for Ronaldo. Oh absolutely. I mean I thought, 457 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think all of us when Brandon Staley 458 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: was hired and he only at four years in the league. 459 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: Then he hires a defensive coordinator has only been in 460 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: three years in the league, so somebody even leked less experience. 461 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: But I think we need to be clear. I mean, 462 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is running the defense. This will be his defense, 463 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: and he I think he brought in a young, young 464 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: coach relatively more in experience than young, but a guy 465 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: who has a great relationship with you talked about how 466 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: they their offices right next to each other, you know, 467 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: he told us that story. And so a guy he 468 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: has a great relationship with a guy he knows, here's 469 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. He's gonna be on board. But 470 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: Staley's gonna run the we're in the defense, it's gonna 471 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: he's gonna be deciding what when they're what they're gonna do. 472 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: When they're gonna do it, it's gonna be no question. 473 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: They'll be input from everybody, but it'll be Staley running 474 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: the defense like you see and and other other teams 475 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: that have done the same thing when they have a 476 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: defensive minded, a defensive oriented head coach. But I think, 477 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: like Joe mentioned, it's you know, they they brought in 478 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: a you know, they're giving him an opportunity here, learn this, 479 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: how how this works, how we do this. If they 480 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: have success, it could be a springboard for for a 481 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: guy who who is has arrived very quickly at a 482 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: coordinator position. But good for him, you know, he you know, 483 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: we need to see this. We need to see guys 484 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: like this get an opportunity. Who who who? You know? 485 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: For guys like that, it's been it's been tough for 486 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: minority candidates. It's tough to get these jobs. And and 487 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: God bless Brendon Staley. He's given a minority candidate a 488 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: great job here, a great opportunity. And if he can, 489 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: if he can, you know, sort of build him in 490 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: that mold of of a sort of that head coaching, 491 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: get him on that path and that journey, this could 492 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: lead to something, uh, something really big for a guy 493 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: who who obviously, as he said, he got into coaching 494 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: and learned right away. He loved it. And there's no 495 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: doubt about that. You mentioned that the year or that 496 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: he didn't have a job, he went around to try 497 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: to get better, to try to spend some time around 498 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: these programs, these coaches that were big time coaches, to 499 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: try to figure out how do I succeed in this business. 500 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: And now he's got an opportunity. It's it's paid off 501 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: for him and paid off quickly. And I hope it 502 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: works out for him because we need to see more 503 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: of this in the NFL. The guys like him need 504 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: to get opportunities that have been denied in the past. 505 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: Question in Fernando, a former player ten years in the league, 506 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: one hundred forty one games played, I think one hundred 507 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: and fourteen starts, actually crossed paths with Chris Harris Junior 508 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: as a player when he was an undrafted free agent 509 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: Denver coming out of Kansas. So what also struck me 510 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: is he knows the grind, he knows the sacrifice that 511 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: these guys have to go through on a daily basis 512 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: just to get the Sunday, and I think that's really 513 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: going to be helpful to him. You know what really 514 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: impressed me about him is Papa asked him a question 515 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: right away about what excites him about this team. He 516 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: starts naming every single every single starter on this on 517 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: this defense, and that really impressed me him knowing every 518 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: single starter. But the twinkling his eye when he said 519 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: the name Derwin James really really struck me because he said, 520 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: you know that big guy thirty three, And I'm like, 521 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: oh wow, he knows No. Yeah, as a secondaries coach, 522 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's excited. But yeah, I know he said 523 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: that that he got Chris Harris twice. But when a player, 524 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: when a player goes and and becomes a head coach, 525 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: they know what it's like to be in those rooms. 526 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: Some coaches know what it's like to be a coach 527 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: in the room, but some guy like Ronaldo's gonna know 528 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: what it's like to be a player. So he knows 529 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: that sometimes you're sitting You were sitting there as a player, 530 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: you heard one voice. One voice just kept on talking 531 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: and talking, and obviously you'd go out there and you 532 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: do your job. But what it seems like Brandon's trying 533 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: to do, and obviously Ronaldo sounds like he wants to 534 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: do the exact same thing too, is is pick on 535 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: other guys to talk and kind of give their point 536 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: of view. So maybe the last Joey, Joey, what did 537 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: you kind of see from the offensive line? And then 538 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: Joey'll give his perspective. But that's what That's what I 539 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: understood from listening to Jalen Ramsey and some of these 540 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: other guys talk about Brandon Staley. So it seems like 541 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: Ronaldo's all about that, and he mentioned that yesterday. He's like, 542 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: that's what I liked about Brandon is that he gives 543 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: other people a voice. You give the players a voice 544 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: to kind of see what they're seeing and help other guys. 545 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: So it feels like it's it's gonna be a little 546 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: bit of a communal defense. Everybody's gonna be able to 547 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: speak and say what they see. And you have some 548 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: brilliant minds on this defense. You have a Kenneth Murray, 549 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: you have a Chris Harris Jr. You have a Derwin James, 550 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: you have Joey bows As. You have guys like that 551 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: that understand what's going on on the and what the 552 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: offense is running, so they can help on the offensive 553 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: end and then help younger guys kind of understand what 554 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: they're seeing and kind of help them analyze that. So, no, 555 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: it seems like Brandon is really it seems like Ronaldo 556 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: really understand, really understands, and he's with the vision of 557 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Brandon stalely for this team. I said this at the top, 558 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: Darius Swinton a special teams coordinator. He's a star already. Jeff, 559 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: you're oppressions. We just wrapped that press or up going 560 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: into this podcast. Well, he was the guy of all, 561 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, starting with Staley and then going to the 562 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: three coordinators. I was waiting for that guy who would 563 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: be the one you always share after three minutes, I 564 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: wanted to run through the wall for this guy, and 565 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: think we got that with Darius Swinton. He was the 566 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: guy that, yes, like you can see why he's a 567 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Special Teams coach. He's he's all fired up, He's he 568 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: wants to go coach right now, you know, he was 569 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: just saying, and so, uh, yeah, he's he's a lot 570 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: of energy. Again, seems like a really smart guy. Uh, 571 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: And so I think there's reason for for for optimism 572 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: there too. And he Uh. I thought it's interesting how 573 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: we he talked about his game management and trying to 574 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: help with that. We all know the Chargers had issues 575 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: with that last year. And uh, he's definitely he's definitely 576 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: the energy in the room. And so I think there 577 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: won't be any any lacking of that. I mean, I 578 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: think he talked about how you know, the Special Teams 579 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: as a party and that it's like a big it's 580 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: a big party. And you see these you know, you 581 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: see that all the time with teams where they're jumping 582 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: around on the sideline getting crazy before they run out 583 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: to for a kickoff or something. I think you're going 584 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: to see that with the chargers and that's fun and 585 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: that's the way it shouldn't be. And that's obviously Special 586 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: teams a lot of his energy kind of place. So 587 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: he seems like he absolutely fits that mold of that 588 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: guy that you're going to rally around and get people 589 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: fired up. And so yeah, I think he was definitely 590 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: the star of the press conferences at leases with the media. 591 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: What that means on the sideline and what that means 592 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: on the field, we don't know yet, but he's he's 593 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to talk to. Joe Joe. He was 594 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: asked a couple of times, just hey, you look back 595 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: at twenty twenty and all the mistakes that happened and 596 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: how do you fix it? And it's something so small, 597 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: but he's just like, listen, I'm I'm looking forward. I'm 598 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: trying to find solutions as opposed to talking about what 599 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: happened in the past. This is a new deal. There's 600 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: probably gonna be some new guys on that unit, and 601 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: he seems like he's he's the man to lead him. Yeah, 602 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: because I think when you look at the Rick Gossel 603 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: and Special Teams rankings, which I basically called the gold 604 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: standard of Special teams rankings with everything that Goose puts 605 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: into it. Cardinals tenth last year, Chargers thirty second, and 606 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: if there were more than thirty two teams, the Chargers 607 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: would be even lower than that. I've got to have 608 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: any go easy Joe here, this is this is a 609 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Charger podcast. Don't forget right. But I think I think 610 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: we're not breaking new ground here that the past two 611 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: three years has been a nightmare for special teams. And 612 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: it's hard for him to look forward because, let's face it, 613 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: most of the time, guys thirty to fifty three on 614 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: the roster are going to be your special teams. Guys 615 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: who remains here after free agency and everything we've got, 616 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: We've got no idea, really, we don't know. It's it's 617 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: going to be a completely different operation. Yeah, So for 618 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: him to you know, look back, see if there's any 619 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, special teams all works. For lack of a 620 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: better term, it's it's hard for him to see right 621 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: now with the new coaching staff going in. So look forward. 622 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: I think the returners, you know, and kJ Hill and 623 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: Joe read what you have there, but you could see 624 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: a new punter. What about Adderly? Yeah, Adderly too with 625 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: what he did late in the season. Uh sorry to 626 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Osford admitting him there, but he certainly showed his potential. 627 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: But I mean could have a told new operation in 628 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: terms of punter, long snapper, kicker badgeley. We all know 629 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: from within forty five great, when you get to forty 630 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: six and beyond, it's an adventure. So you know, do 631 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: they do they look for kicker helping in that way. 632 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: So he's right in terms of you know, how to 633 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: look forward, see what he's got and then go from there. 634 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: And let's face it too, we don't know how how 635 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: this virus is going to be in August and if 636 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna have preseason games or not, so that makes 637 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: it even harder to teach what you want in special 638 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: teams basics. Fernanda, what were your thoughts? I was very 639 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: impressed with when when he talked about going through the 640 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: special team's footage before the interview because he wanted to 641 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: just in case of Brandon asked him a question he 642 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: wanted to be He wanted to make sure he knew it. 643 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: I could see him go. I could I could just 644 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: see so many, so many facial expressions that he had 645 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: watching that special because the only positive that I took 646 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: away from special teams last year was they didn't allow 647 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: a kickoff return for a touchdown. Everything else they literally had. 648 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: They had blocked blocked kicks, blocked puns, they had everything. 649 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: So honestly, um, I believe that he has his work 650 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: cut out for him. Like Jeff and Joe have said, 651 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: but hey, he seems like he understands the concepts, He 652 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: understands what he needs to do to better this uh 653 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: special teams and and he's just another guy that you 654 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: see the extension of um of Brandon and what he 655 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: wants to do with this team. So you could tell 656 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: he You could tell that from Brandon's first press conferences. 657 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: He wants to win in all three phases of the game. So, 658 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and they know how important all three phases are. 659 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: So it seems like he has good coaches around him. 660 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: And that's that's how good a head coach is gonna be. 661 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: What are the coaches around you? And it seems like 662 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: Swinton is is gonna be a good special teams coach. 663 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Now it's what he's he gonna do with, Like Joe said, 664 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: kicker hunter long snapper, the players that you have out 665 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: on the field. So honestly, he has he has his 666 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: work cut out for him because it's it's gonna be 667 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very long offseason for him to 668 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: get all this uh to be able to answer all 669 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: these questions, and and he's gonna get him. He's gonna 670 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: get him off all season. What do you think about that? 671 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: Who's gonna be your kicker? What's gonna Are you guys 672 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna let Badgeley walk? Are you guys gonna let Tay 673 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: Long walk? So's it's gonna be a very interesting off 674 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: season for from his point of view. I answer was 675 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: so boring that Joe left. I don't know if I 676 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: was worried there's an empty box. I don't know what 677 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: they sudden when the dogs gotta go, the dogs gotta go. 678 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: I I was gonna follow it to Joe and He's like, 679 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: it's not there. One thing I wanted to mention Chris 680 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: is and we I think we would be remiss. We're 681 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: talking about special teams that we didn't talk about. This 682 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: is that Tom Teletsko, the general manager of this team, 683 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: admitted after the season he did a bad job. He 684 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: didn't give. He didn't give the previous regime the kind 685 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: of players that they needed on special team. So I 686 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: think that you know, and just talking about special teams 687 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: and trying to improve and for this team, which we 688 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: all know they need to do. Anybody's rankings would have 689 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: had the Charges at the bottom. There's no question about that. 690 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: We we watched it. It It was a nightmare. But I 691 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, a big part of this is going to 692 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: be not only as Joe mentioned, is going to be 693 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: what what practices are going to look like and how 694 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: involved they're gonna be able to to you know, get 695 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: and how much look they're going to get at some 696 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: of these guys on the back half of the roster. 697 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the next couple of months here when 698 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: we see what the who those guys even are those 699 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: possibilities are, because that you know, they this team had 700 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: a problem. They've got some real high end talent and 701 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: they've got a little bit in the middle, and then 702 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: they've got they don't have enough of that middle talent. 703 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't think on this roster this past year, where 704 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: are those kind of guys who you need on special teams, 705 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: who are going to be able to not only keep 706 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: it together but also make plays on special teams. And 707 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: this team had a hard enough time just trying to 708 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: keep it together last year. So you know, at least 709 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: Tom Telesco is openly admitting that, yeah, he he did 710 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: not do a good enough job and getting you know, 711 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: the having the roster built in such a way that 712 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: there were those players that could that could keep things 713 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: together on special teams. So that's gonna be a big 714 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: thing too. Even before where we get to who these 715 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: guys are going to be coaching, it's it's who are 716 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: these guys free free agency in the drafting nine selections 717 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: in the draft, and when you see how that plays 718 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: out a couple with free agency, um, you may start 719 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: to see the wheels turning in terms of what the 720 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: special teams players in the makeup of some of the 721 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: guys are looking for. Is gonna look like, um, guys, 722 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: we went a little long but awesome conversation. I want 723 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: to end it here though, Joe, like I want the 724 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: exclusive one, the Vlora suit, the Hennessey party, if you 725 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: could please indulge us for just a couple of minutes 726 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: of floors yours, God Blessing Chris. I've I've been to 727 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: Hennessey Super Bowl parties, but i that's gotta be a 728 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: different guy with the Valori's suit. Oh, there's no way, 729 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: it's got a way. There's no way it's it's got 730 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: it's got to be a different person. I mean, I 731 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: don't know if what I wore look like a Valori suit. 732 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: Do you own a Valor suit? I do not own 733 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: a Valor suit? You at any time suit? No, you got? 734 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: I would get, I would go. I would go to 735 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: super Bowl parties in the dead of winter wearing like 736 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: the white sports jacket and committing every every fashion faux 737 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: pod known to man that way. But but the Vlora suit, 738 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: Vlora suit. No, Um, but you have been to the 739 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: Hennesse party though, so yeah, I yes, I have been. 740 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: I have been to the Hennesse Party. And U I'm 741 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: just gonna tell you, Joe, be careful because I'm the 742 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: if they say, you know, you can find anything on 743 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: the internet. It's all out there. There's there could be 744 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: photographic images aware of that. Call it the year that 745 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: the super Bowl was in New Orleans. There are there 746 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: are plenty of photos of me and New Orleans finest 747 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: bars drinking and stuff. Uh. People I think they're like, 748 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: it was glad to hear that. Very glad to hear that. 749 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: I think the plane put one on Twitter of me 750 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: drinking a massive hurricane with a with one of those 751 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: plastic sharks in the uh in the actual class. But 752 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: it's amazing, Joe. It's been a it's been a heck 753 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: of a ride for you this year at social media. 754 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: But you know what, the David Square thing was funny. 755 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: My favorite though, was when you asked coach Lin about 756 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: goal line. He said, oh, hold on, Joel, Joe, Yeah, 757 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: like like let us let us, let us slowly get 758 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: into the thing. And I mean the press conference thing. 759 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: And that was just a stupid mistake by me not 760 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: looking at the screen because I've got one of these 761 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: lamps on my computer and the desktop that I didn't 762 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: even see that it interfered with the camera. So that 763 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: was on me. That was on me most of all. 764 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, you'll live, you'll learn. And as 765 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: I as I told people yesterday, if if you're not entertained, 766 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: especially without the past ten eleven months of gone, you know, 767 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: then then you're never gonna be. There's no such thing 768 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: as bad press, right, oh, absolutely not. And you're right, man, 769 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: when you're at home, you know whether it's the mute button, 770 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: talking over asking a question and it's muted. I mean, 771 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: like every little thing. Everybody has had something in their background. 772 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: You know, I have my dog barking literally every single podcast. 773 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: So it's just it's just what it is. In twenty 774 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: twenty one, we're all trying to make do guys. Well, 775 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: don't forget I'm barked with Brian Bouloga. So I when 776 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: I was asking Brian Bulogga a question, So I know 777 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: I know where you're coming from with that one. And 778 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa at one point exclaimed during one of his 779 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: presumed zoomers, Hey little kitty, when my cat jumped out, 780 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: Actually you're you're kept me out. You're kept me out 781 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: during the feature one time. That's true. Also, yes, Joey 782 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: hadn't Joey had his brother zoom bomb us this year. 783 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: It's been a wild year. Well, there was a post 784 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: game too. I think it was a New Orleans Monday 785 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: Night game where my dog barked, like right after I 786 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: asked a question or something, and Hunter Henry like flinch 787 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: for a second, like where the heck is that dog 788 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: coming from? Oh, because they had earphones on two like 789 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: during that, Yeah, I remember that where it was like, 790 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's what's going on here? Or the 791 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: TSA dogs all of a sudden coming into the locker 792 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: room to check us out, a Miami COVID sniffing dogs exactly. 793 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: The thing is, we don't know when this is gonna end, 794 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: so we could be on Zoom for several more months, 795 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: so we'll keep you entertained. I know this roundtable kept 796 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: everybody entertaining. Joe ready for Nato, Ramirez, Jeff Miller. Appreciate 797 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: you guys joining us, and thanks you guys for listening. 798 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: Be sure to download, subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network 799 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Have a great weekend, and 800 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: until next time, I'm Chris Harary M