WEBVTT - Inside Coverage: Depth Draft 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.120 This episode of Inside Coverage was recorded before the news 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.560 of Brian Robinson Junior on behalf of Braham, myself and 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.119 the Washington Commander's media team. We wish him the best 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:15.000 of health and a full speedy recovery. Yes or no? 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.119 Do you want to take me to the hospital? Get 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.119 out of here? That is cheating. No, I don't. I 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:28.280 disagree with that. Let me do that I want all Right, 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.440 Welcome into the latest edition of The Unnamed Show with 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.000 Logan Halson by Brand Whitstein. Today, let's focus in on 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.160 the depth of the team, and we're gonna do so 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.159 in draft version. So we're gonna have to set some 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.120 rules here that you can't pick a starter, or at 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:48.440 least a known starter, right, Okay, we're looking for spots 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.040 on this team to showcase the depth and the importance 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.000 of those players that we believe they're going to have 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.440 throughout the course of the year. Right, And let me 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.240 just start with this. As you're watching camp, right, what 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.120 are you looking for, you know, outside of the players 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.440 that we know are going to be out there for 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.959 the first series against Jacksonville. Yeah, I think like camp 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.559 is a really interesting time of year obviously because there's 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.399 really forty four guys that are pretty well established. You know, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.440 probably after the first week at camp, you know who's 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.280 going to be on the team, and like, having been 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.280 a player, you kind of can flesh the roster out. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.280 So there's like, I don't know, ten spots that are 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.000 really up for grabs and yeah, right, So for those guys, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.240 it's like what it's the little things, right, It's like 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.039 how do they work at practice, how do they study 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.080 in the classroom, and those things that people might not 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.040 see because you know, when we watch practice it's like, oh, 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.520 here's a big explosive play. That guy's gonna make the team. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.040 It's like, no, like how is he how's he digesting 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.840 the playbook, how's he finishing? How important is it to him? 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.840 How's he run on special teams? And that's why the 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.680 evaluation for the bottom half of the roster becomes so 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.600 challenging because the evaluation parameters are different. Right, You're not 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.200 I'm not getting if I'm a tight end, I'm not 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.400 getting evaluated against the other tight ends. If if I'm 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.000 the last tight end, I'm getting evaluated against the sixth linebacker, right, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.520 because we're gonna basically embody the same role on the team, 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.280 so really special team's value. How to me, a big 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.040 thing is just finish, you know, like how they do 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.440 the things at the position that are not necessarily like 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:16.079 glorified or gratified or whatever. It's like, you know, does 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.959 he finish his blocks? Does he like enjoy doing the 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:21.640 grit work of the thing. Does he enjoy taking on 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.720 blocks if he's a linebacker, Like, how does he handle 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.680 those things? That shows a mindset and a passion for 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.440 what they're doing in the position. You know, it's only 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.639 the longer I come out of here, the more years 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.679 to come out here. It really is week to week two. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.080 For younger guys, it's really week to week. Like the 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.839 first week you'll see a player or two and they'll 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.080 catch your eye and then you'll watch them. You know, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.919 it's a competitive spot, like on this team the secondary 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.480 where you know a couple of younger players are definitively 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.240 going to make the team. So you're kind of watching 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.680 and you're looking for these couple of guys. The next week, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.760 you'll change your mind. It's like consistency, that's where I 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.600 see it. Yeah, I see consistency and younger players and 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.280 those are the guys that I think are there for 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.240 the long lall. I think it's like the position that 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.160 embodies that probably perfectly is tight end position right now, right, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.760 because it started off and it was like, oh, well, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.079 these are the three guys. It's you know, Bates cold Turner, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.840 Curtis Hodges, and then our money is going to be 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.200 the odd man out looking in. But obviously that's changed dramatically, right, 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.600 And I think that that's just again speaking to your 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.760 point like consistency, can you stay healthy, can you put 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.000 good stuff on film? And that's all part of the 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.200 evaluation process at this point of the off season for sure. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:25.600 All Right, so our objects are to draft a depth team, right, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.160 We're gonna go in order like a fantasy draft, Okay, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.640 and then somebody somewhere is good determine who got it 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.200 right the fans correct on social media, they're gonna tell 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.920 us the producer is going to Maddie will do it. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.640 Who knows, right, Here's the deal. Six positions. Two of 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.960 them have to be skilled position players. Two of them 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.880 have to be lineman, offensive or defensive. Okay, you could 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.880 do two defensive lineman or two offensive linemen. Up to 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.160 you just have to be lineman, a linebacker or a 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.000 dB and then one that they're calling wildcard. Okay, right, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.280 so that could be anybody. Yeah, right. I have a 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:02.080 fundamental problem with this start out because I do think, like, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.800 take a position like running back, there's no definitive starter 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.800 at this point. Well, I was raised my hat to go, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.600 can I take Antonio Gibson or can I take McKissick 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.360 even right, because like talk about a mismatch weapon within 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.960 the context of the offense, right, Like you know he 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.200 would be starting on some teams. He's got a huge role. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.200 So again, like Cornelias Lucas, like all those types of 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.719 guys that are fringe starter for maybe another team, Like 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.760 I don't want to shy away from that, but in 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.960 order to win the game, I'm gonna be really hunting 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.600 seeking those kinds of players that I just need to seek, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.680 like approval. Right now, my first pick would be a 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.680 Totio Gibson. Am I allowed to take him? I would 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.880 say sure, just because like I don't really care, But 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.520 then I would then my first pick would be McKissick. Fine, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.239 But in order to talk about the depth of a position, obviously, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.920 Jonathan Williams had a really nice camp so far, probably 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.800 a practice squad type of player, but a guy that 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.280 you feel good about. No. Yeah, but I'm saying, like, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.760 the reason you're not taking Jonathan Williams is because he's 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.839 not He's not going to have like a role, a 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.279 starting role or significant role like as an NFL running 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.880 back today. That's why he's gonna be on the practice 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.560 squad or rotational piece. So again, just from like just 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.120 to give those the depth guys their due, yeah, yeah, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.120 so right, so all right, So I think then we're 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.680 even here because we took two guys who really are 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.520 starters on the team, but because of I don't know, 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.440 some headlines that got a little out of control about Gibson. 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.320 In my opinion, he's gonna play an enormously prominent role 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.159 on this team, probably a little differently than we like. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.320 People like me who cover the team probably envisioned it. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.559 And that's why I think it's spiraled into He's big bench. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.000 There's a message being set. Oh my god, he's returning 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.360 kicks and I'm sitting there watching that preseason gave the 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.680 other day, going, oh, that's where he's going to kill 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.400 somebody in space when they get him out of the backfield, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.200 making catches. You call him a backup ball you want, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.520 Gibson is maybe gonna have a bigger effect on games, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.839 running the ball five to ten times a game instead 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.159 of twenty and catching five passes a game where he 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.160 could blow the lid off of the absolute. And that's 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.120 something like when they drive the guy like Brian Robinson 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.240 that you immediately that that thought comes in your head, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.919 Like even if Brian Robinson isn't the starter technically and 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.479 he's a rotational piece, like he's a pure runner, So 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.960 that him getting more touches helps Gibson because it helps 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.560 you kind of manufacture touches for him where he is 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.360 in space, where where Gibson is kind of that truly 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.159 special player. So yeah, even though he might not be 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.560 the starter or whatever, I do think that is a 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.880 I think I think his role in the offense is 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.479 going to be so much more comprehensive and conducive to 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.640 his skill set, even on special teams too. Right, him 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.000 returning kicks, I think that's an outstanding Okay, you took mckissic, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.280 I agree with you. I mean you should agree with me. Right, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.200 He's been an enormous impact player, right, right, I also 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.520 agree with you that I'm not really sure how much 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.760 time he's going to see on the field, what his 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.320 role is. Well, it's the same thing with Gibson though, right, like, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.800 because Gibson in the game was featured heavily in the 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.000 passing game, right, But in real life, the guy who's 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.920 a better rout runner, the guyho's a more accomplished receiver, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.839 the guy who's got better hands is mkissick. Right, So 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.560 do those touches all of a sudden when mckissicks Helsey 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.240 go back to be mckissicks touches. That's my question for you. Right, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.640 Gibson in the game gets all these touches in space 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.400 because McKissick isn't there, But when the when, the when 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.479 the big dog, when the second best receiving back in 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.040 the NFL is back in the lineup, how does that 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.440 shake out? And that's to me a huge storyline is 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.560 can you get all the guys the touches they want 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.600 in the context of this offense? So I feel like 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.240 now and my mind might change about this that on 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.240 first and second down, you're going to see Gibson because 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.560 he's a home run hitter, right, mkissick, While he's amazing 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.040 at using other players momentum against them. Yeah, using leverage, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.480 great route runner, terrific move the chains type of player. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.360 He's not a home run hitter, right. That's not to 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.200 devalue what he does. I think he's amazing at what 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.600 he does, right, But Gibson, on any one given play 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.320 is the player that potentially takes it to the house. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.320 Now on third and short, I think I want Mkissic 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.040 on the field. I don't think I want the certainty 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.280 of what he's doing, and I want to move the chain. Yeah, him, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.680 disagree with you, But I think in twenty twenty two, 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.520 the guy that's more valuable to an offense is consistent 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.960 rot runner who can win a matchup. Right. I can 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.840 get an empty I can line them up outside and 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.080 say hey, you're you're matching with a back or you're 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.960 matching with a safety. He can win that matchup ninety 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.520 percent of the time, and I can go with the 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.000 football there, as opposed to Gibson, where there's a little 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.240 bit inconsistency with his route running. Yes, he is a 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.760 homewn hitter, right, You get him the ball on screens, 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.280 you get him the ball on like those angle routes 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.920 like we saw in the game things play he did 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.240 in Buffalo. Ye, yeah, like that. There's very few people 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.400 in this team that do that correct, but that don't 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.280 require a high level of rot running, nuance and precision. Yes, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.760 I understand those situations, But which which players are going 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.360 to be more impactful on the aggregate to the season. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.720 I'd say the guy who can consistently win your matchups 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.480 and a guy that is a security blanket for Carson 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.360 went touchdown all the Oh. I mean you know, like 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.880 that's the short sided approach by because how many how 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.360 many adr touchdowns have there been, like there's been one, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.240 and how many third down conversions that have extended drives 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.480 for points? Right, So I'm not anti m kissing. It 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.280 sounds like you are, all right pick number two for me. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.199 I'm gonna go defensive back here, Well we can go. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.160 We have to go skill skill, What are the rules? Okay, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.559 do not have to go in order can fill in 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:13.120 anybody at any times mistakes, Go ahead. I am gonna 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.640 go with someone who I think is going to play 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.120 a prominent role in year two. It is not like 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.920 the definitive starter starter because I believe we look at 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.920 our safeties and go McCain curl, I'm gonna take Derek Forrest. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.080 Short side of I'm gonna take Derek Forrest. Uh. He 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.840 is clearly going to have a large role for them, 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.280 maybe some of this very famous Buffalo nickel stuff that's 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.880 going on. I've seen a major difference in his play 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.679 this year. He's aggressive, he hits. I think he can 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.240 be the type of player that can have an impact 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.400 player on the back end with the way that he hits. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.400 And I feel like there's a bit a massive difference 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.079 for him from last summer to this summer, and clearly 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.880 with the youth around that unit, he's gonna play a lot. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:59.200 So to me, he plays a pivotal role specifically in 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.080 three safety set. Yeah. And if you know, you were 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.959 the one who said that, Like it's about consistency, and 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.360 it's a week to week thing. Like if you look 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.440 at the evaluation this week, the guy who's getting more 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.680 burned there now is Percy Butler. Who I'm gonna pick. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.640 I'm picking Percy Butler for the defensive back inst tell 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.560 me why, and I'll tell you why. I think Forrest 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.640 ends up playing a more prominent role. Why. What's happening 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.480 is happening, so so again, I if we're just picking 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.160 off like today, I think your pick is fine, Like 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.880 I think it's five pick because I think right now 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.600 he's playing better football. But I think over the course 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.600 of the season, like and that's part of the thing 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.640 with a draft, as you're drafting for potential, you know 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.080 what I mean, You're drafting on opportunity, and I think 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.480 the guy with more growth potential is Percy Butler. Right, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.720 he can play nickel, he runs a four two, He 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.600 hits when he can like, I think that's an area 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.439 of the game where he needs to improve. He can 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.280 fit the runs. He gives you that position flex and 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.120 the speed to play the position flex. I think while 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.000 Derek Forrest is a good football player and there's no 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.680 doubt in my mind that he's going to be a 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.320 solid pro for a couple of years, his ceiling is 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.400 not what I'm looking for in my draft. I want 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.520 more upside, and I think this week Percy Butler is 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.880 shown an opport shown in my opinion, that he can 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.360 do more in the context of this defense than Derek Forrest. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.520 Ken I think Derek Forrest is a good football player, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.560 but I think he's limited, and I think that's why 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.600 I'm gonna go Percy. Like right now, I think you're right, 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.480 But I'm thinking Week five, who's gonna be playing better? 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.560 And I think it's gonna be Percy Butler. Okay, I 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.400 think it's gonna be Forrest's job for the bulk of 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.280 the year. I think Butler is where Forrest was a 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.440 year ago. It is probably about a year away from 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.480 playing a more prominent role. If I was taking a 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.120 Dynasty depth draft right now, I would take Butler over 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.720 Forrest for all the reasons that you just said that 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.520 next year or the year after that, I'm hoping that 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.200 he's a starting safety for them. He's playing a prominent role. Clearly, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.720 he's gonna be on special teams this year. I think 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.480 he is not that player for them this year short 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.480 of injuries, and therefore, I don't think you're going to 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.560 see him as much as maybe you're anticipating you're gonna 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.480 see him. And the other thing about this week, and 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.240 you can tell me if I'm wrong about this, right, 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.679 I think the backups are playing a ton. It's Baltimore, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.040 and I think he's just getting ready for the amount 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.079 of reps that he's about to have in a game 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.080 that is not going to really actually carry over to 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.720 what we see on So I'm really glad you brought 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.160 that up because they are doing Baltimore prep, but they're 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.720 also doing like varsity prep too for Jacksonville at this point, right, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.839 And the guy who's getting the reps with the varsity 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.640 is Percy Butler. It's not the Forrest, right, or it's 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.679 not Forrest, Excuse me. I always want to call him 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.040 the Forest anyway, So I think that there. So what 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.880 I think is, despite what he's shown in practice and 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.720 in the games, I think the coaching staff here thinks 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.160 he's a little bit farther ahead of that where we 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.760 think he's at. And I've talked to coaches. I think 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.000 they're excited about him for the reasons that I'm excited 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.280 about him, and I think if he can kind of 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.160 grow up, I think they want to give him the job, 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:49.480 and I think that is going to lead to more 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.719 opportunity for him, which is why I don't disagree with you. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.960 But I do think that this him playing more on 0:12:56.000 --> 0:13:00.480 the starting defense this week shows a thought process that 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.120 is exciting from the staff. And also I think the 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.480 other thing is has cam Crow performed exceptionally well at 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.360 the Buffalo nickel? Has he performed to the standard that 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.040 they want? Obviously he had a you know, coverage bust 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.920 against Carolina, had a coverage bunch against Kansas City. Maybe 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.520 they're trying to solidify his role within the defense as 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.120 that kind of post safety or the traditional safety. Yes, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.959 and find a guy who can play the Buffalo nickel. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.600 And in my opinion, after talking to the coaches here, 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.800 they say Forrest has a hard time closer to the the 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.560 line of scrimmage and would not be good in that role. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.000 I think Percy Butler has a skill set to maybe 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.839 play more as that pure Buffalo nickel. I think that 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.000 makes cam crowl stuffs an interesting development. This is two 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.640 years of a row at the safeties where they ended 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.360 up maneuvering people to finally get them into a position 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.120 where they were having some effectiveness. I agree with you 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:46.720 with Curl. I think he might be one of their 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.640 best players on defense, that he'd find the right role 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.040 for right absolutely clearly. All right, my next pick, I'm 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.880 gonna go on the line, and I think that this 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.880 guy's going to play an absolutely massive role for this 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.040 team this year. And that's West Schweitzer. Okay, Yeah, I 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:05.400 mean I don't disagree at this juncture, like I don't 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:10.000 think that this team can rely necessarily on, especially on 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:15.800 the interior, a regular productive starting five, that there's going 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.400 to be rotational pieces that are going to happen. Schweitzer 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.920 could be a backup center if you need him to be. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.680 He can play either guard. He probably starts against Jacksonville 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.720 if he's healthy enough to do so. With Trey Turner's injury, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.920 we haven't seen him all camp. I think that's almost 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.440 a definitive that that's going to happen. And I have 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.240 a feeling he is going to be for them this year. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.720 The Swiss Army Knife. They need to keep the whole 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.640 thing together. He feels like a glue guy to me. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.600 When he got hurt last week. That was the one 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.880 where I went, they're in trouble on the line. They 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.400 need him. Yeah, and I love this pick by you. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.240 I think it's a great pick because of all the 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.960 reasons you said. Right, he's basically starting. He's basically been 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.600 starting for the last two and a half weeks of 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.360 training camp. He's physical, he's smart, he can play center, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.600 he can play the other guard. He's the guy that's 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.160 kind of been in there interchangeably with the other pieces. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.680 I love the pick, but I'm gonna go yeah, yeah, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.000 but if I'm gonna pick somebody, I'm gonna go Cornelius 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:11.800 Lucas here just because I think the tackle depth, Like, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.800 I think you can get away, Like if we were 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.440 just drafting guards, I think you can get away. You 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.600 can survive with Ciddy Charles, you can you can survive 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.840 with some of these other backup pieces. I think they 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.320 don't have enough tackles on this team, right, And I 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.160 think that that's why Cornelius is so much more valuable 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.720 than West. I'm watching the waiver wire next week when 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.560 teams go down to fifty three. I don't think it's 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.720 out of the realm at all that there's a potential 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.000 interior alignment or a tackle to your point, the right 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.320 one somehow doesn't make a team and is available, that 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:39.760 they take a look at that. Yeah, because I think 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.920 right now, you've got excellent I think you have excellent 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.000 depth on the inside, right, And I think even if 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:48.080 Cosmi can play can play guard, I think that's outstanding also. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.880 So again, it's just it's tackle is more valuable on 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.880 this team in my opinion, because there aren't many of them, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.840 and because he's a high quality start. I mean, he played, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.840 he practiced two days last week and had not standing game, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.560 So that just speaks to kind of the caliber of 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.240 player that he is. And again, I love Wes, but 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.400 this is more just like what I think which position 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.840 I think is more valuable. And I'm gonna say tackle. Okay, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.280 I'm gonna stay on the line. I'm gonna go the 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.160 other side of the ball. But first let me tell 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.760 you where we are. Let's see, we both cheated. I 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.600 took Antonio Gibson and you took JD. Mckissic, right, which 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.480 we both agree probably are kind of starters. So it's 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.600 kind of not fair, Derek. I mean, yours is probably 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.920 more cheating than mine. But that's okay, yeah, but you 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.880 let me do it. It's not cheating if you allow that. Again, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.960 that's right. We then went with I took Derek Forrest. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.360 You took Percy Butler. You like the upside of Butler. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.320 I think by mid season you might see a lot 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:42.920 more of him on the field, especially with the speed. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.360 And it's not that I don't like Forest because I 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.200 think he is a physical for all the things you said, 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.560 but I think I just think the upsides there. And 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.000 then I went with west Schweitzer because I think he's 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.960 going to play a key role in the interior of 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.720 the offensive line, probably playing multiple positions this year. You 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.160 took Cornelius Lucas because you feel like they're gonna need 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.880 help at tall and the tackling is just like there's 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.040 no there's no tackle depth here, like who's your who's 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.680 the other tackle on the team? Yeah you have obviously 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:11.280 um Leno caused me and who correct and the other 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.520 guys you know, like beat Willie Beavers, all those guys 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.040 that I don't I think they've had good camps. I 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.199 don't think their NFL caliber swing guys. And so you 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.840 need a swing guy. Cordeli is the guy. All right, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.960 I'm gonna stay on the line other side of the ball. 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.760 And again this is feels like a cheat because he's 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.840 going to start week one because Chase Young is out. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.320 But I'm gonna take James Smith. Will get out of here. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.880 That is cheating. He's a starter. You gotta pick somebody else, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.120 But he's starting if Chase Young was on the team. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.520 But he's not be starting. If my aunt had a beard, 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.280 she'd be my uncle or whatever. That is, right, Like 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.080 when west Schweitzer's healthy, he will be starting that cheating 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.640 if if Trey Turner's healthy, he's not starting, though, that's 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.520 what That's what I'm saying, and he Chase is different 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.359 because he's on the pup's I could be starting till 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.200 week five. It's fair, Maddie. You can say that in 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.879 the microphones. Just so why is it fair? It is 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.399 fair because Chase Young would be the starter of this 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.720 team and the gay healthy he startin, right. I don't 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.000 think there's that big of a distant him in a 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:08.440 case too anyway, But go ahead, I'll take James Smith Williams. Clearly, 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.879 there is going to be a lot of attention on 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.119 Montes sweat, I would think from offensive coordinators who are 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.080