1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This episode of Inside Coverage was recorded before the news 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: of Brian Robinson Junior on behalf of Braham, myself and 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: the Washington Commander's media team. We wish him the best 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: of health and a full speedy recovery. Yes or no? 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Do you want to take me to the hospital? Get 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: out of here? That is cheating. No, I don't. I 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: disagree with that. Let me do that I want all Right, 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the latest edition of The Unnamed Show with 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Logan Halson by Brand Whitstein. Today, let's focus in on 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: the depth of the team, and we're gonna do so 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: in draft version. So we're gonna have to set some 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: rules here that you can't pick a starter, or at 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: least a known starter, right, Okay, we're looking for spots 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: on this team to showcase the depth and the importance 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: of those players that we believe they're going to have 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year. Right, And let me 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: just start with this. As you're watching camp, right, what 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: are you looking for, you know, outside of the players 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: that we know are going to be out there for 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: the first series against Jacksonville. Yeah, I think like camp 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: is a really interesting time of year obviously because there's 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: really forty four guys that are pretty well established. You know, 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: probably after the first week at camp, you know who's 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: going to be on the team, and like, having been 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: a player, you kind of can flesh the roster out. 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: So there's like, I don't know, ten spots that are 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: really up for grabs and yeah, right, So for those guys, 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: it's like what it's the little things, right, It's like 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: how do they work at practice, how do they study 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: in the classroom, and those things that people might not 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: see because you know, when we watch practice it's like, oh, 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: here's a big explosive play. That guy's gonna make the team. 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: It's like, no, like how is he how's he digesting 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: the playbook, how's he finishing? How important is it to him? 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: How's he run on special teams? And that's why the 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: evaluation for the bottom half of the roster becomes so 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: challenging because the evaluation parameters are different. Right, You're not 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not getting if I'm a tight end, I'm not 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: getting evaluated against the other tight ends. If if I'm 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the last tight end, I'm getting evaluated against the sixth linebacker, right, 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: because we're gonna basically embody the same role on the team, 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: so really special team's value. How to me, a big 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: thing is just finish, you know, like how they do 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: the things at the position that are not necessarily like 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: glorified or gratified or whatever. It's like, you know, does 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: he finish his blocks? Does he like enjoy doing the 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: grit work of the thing. Does he enjoy taking on 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: blocks if he's a linebacker, Like, how does he handle 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: those things? That shows a mindset and a passion for 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: what they're doing in the position. You know, it's only 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: the longer I come out of here, the more years 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: to come out here. It really is week to week two. 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: For younger guys, it's really week to week. Like the 54 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: first week you'll see a player or two and they'll 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: catch your eye and then you'll watch them. You know, 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: it's a competitive spot, like on this team the secondary 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: where you know a couple of younger players are definitively 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: going to make the team. So you're kind of watching 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: and you're looking for these couple of guys. The next week, 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: you'll change your mind. It's like consistency, that's where I 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I see consistency and younger players and 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: those are the guys that I think are there for 63 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the long lall. I think it's like the position that 64 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: embodies that probably perfectly is tight end position right now, right, 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: because it started off and it was like, oh, well, 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: these are the three guys. It's you know, Bates cold Turner, 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Curtis Hodges, and then our money is going to be 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: the odd man out looking in. But obviously that's changed dramatically, right, 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: And I think that that's just again speaking to your 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: point like consistency, can you stay healthy, can you put 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: good stuff on film? And that's all part of the 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: evaluation process at this point of the off season for sure. 73 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: All Right, so our objects are to draft a depth team, right, 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna go in order like a fantasy draft, Okay, 75 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: and then somebody somewhere is good determine who got it 76 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: right the fans correct on social media, they're gonna tell 77 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: us the producer is going to Maddie will do it. 78 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Who knows, right, Here's the deal. Six positions. Two of 79 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: them have to be skilled position players. Two of them 80 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: have to be lineman, offensive or defensive. Okay, you could 81 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: do two defensive lineman or two offensive linemen. Up to 82 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: you just have to be lineman, a linebacker or a 83 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: dB and then one that they're calling wildcard. Okay, right, 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: so that could be anybody. Yeah, right. I have a 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: fundamental problem with this start out because I do think, like, 86 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: take a position like running back, there's no definitive starter 87 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: at this point. Well, I was raised my hat to go, 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: can I take Antonio Gibson or can I take McKissick 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: even right, because like talk about a mismatch weapon within 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: the context of the offense, right, Like you know he 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: would be starting on some teams. He's got a huge role. 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: So again, like Cornelias Lucas, like all those types of 93 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: guys that are fringe starter for maybe another team, Like 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to shy away from that, but in 95 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: order to win the game, I'm gonna be really hunting 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: seeking those kinds of players that I just need to seek, 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: like approval. Right now, my first pick would be a 98 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Totio Gibson. Am I allowed to take him? I would 99 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: say sure, just because like I don't really care, But 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: then I would then my first pick would be McKissick. Fine, 101 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: But in order to talk about the depth of a position, obviously, 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams had a really nice camp so far, probably 103 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: a practice squad type of player, but a guy that 104 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: you feel good about. No. Yeah, but I'm saying, like, 105 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the reason you're not taking Jonathan Williams is because he's 106 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: not He's not going to have like a role, a 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: starting role or significant role like as an NFL running 108 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: back today. That's why he's gonna be on the practice 109 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: squad or rotational piece. So again, just from like just 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: to give those the depth guys their due, yeah, yeah, 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: so right, so all right, So I think then we're 112 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: even here because we took two guys who really are 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: starters on the team, but because of I don't know, 114 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: some headlines that got a little out of control about Gibson. 115 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's gonna play an enormously prominent role 116 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: on this team, probably a little differently than we like. 117 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: People like me who cover the team probably envisioned it. 118 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's spiraled into He's big bench. 119 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: There's a message being set. Oh my god, he's returning 120 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: kicks and I'm sitting there watching that preseason gave the 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: other day, going, oh, that's where he's going to kill 122 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: somebody in space when they get him out of the backfield, 123 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: making catches. You call him a backup ball you want, 124 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: Gibson is maybe gonna have a bigger effect on games, 125 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: running the ball five to ten times a game instead 126 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: of twenty and catching five passes a game where he 127 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: could blow the lid off of the absolute. And that's 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: something like when they drive the guy like Brian Robinson 129 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: that you immediately that that thought comes in your head, 130 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: Like even if Brian Robinson isn't the starter technically and 131 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: he's a rotational piece, like he's a pure runner, So 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: that him getting more touches helps Gibson because it helps 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you kind of manufacture touches for him where he is 134 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: in space, where where Gibson is kind of that truly 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: special player. So yeah, even though he might not be 136 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the starter or whatever, I do think that is a 137 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I think I think his role in the offense is 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: going to be so much more comprehensive and conducive to 139 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: his skill set, even on special teams too. Right, him 140 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: returning kicks, I think that's an outstanding Okay, you took mckissic, 141 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean you should agree with me. Right, 142 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: He's been an enormous impact player, right, right, I also 143 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: agree with you that I'm not really sure how much 144 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: time he's going to see on the field, what his 145 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: role is. Well, it's the same thing with Gibson though, right, like, 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: because Gibson in the game was featured heavily in the 147 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: passing game, right, But in real life, the guy who's 148 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: a better rout runner, the guyho's a more accomplished receiver, 149 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: the guy who's got better hands is mkissick. Right, So 150 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: do those touches all of a sudden when mckissicks Helsey 151 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: go back to be mckissicks touches. That's my question for you. Right, 152 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: Gibson in the game gets all these touches in space 153 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: because McKissick isn't there, But when the when, the when 154 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: the big dog, when the second best receiving back in 155 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: the NFL is back in the lineup, how does that 156 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: shake out? And that's to me a huge storyline is 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: can you get all the guys the touches they want 158 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: in the context of this offense? So I feel like 159 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: now and my mind might change about this that on 160 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: first and second down, you're going to see Gibson because 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: he's a home run hitter, right, mkissick, While he's amazing 162 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: at using other players momentum against them. Yeah, using leverage, 163 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: great route runner, terrific move the chains type of player. 164 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: He's not a home run hitter, right. That's not to 165 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: devalue what he does. I think he's amazing at what 166 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: he does, right, But Gibson, on any one given play 167 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: is the player that potentially takes it to the house. 168 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: Now on third and short, I think I want Mkissic 169 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: on the field. I don't think I want the certainty 170 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: of what he's doing, and I want to move the chain. Yeah, him, 171 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: disagree with you, But I think in twenty twenty two, 172 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: the guy that's more valuable to an offense is consistent 173 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: rot runner who can win a matchup. Right. I can 174 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: get an empty I can line them up outside and 175 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: say hey, you're you're matching with a back or you're 176 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: matching with a safety. He can win that matchup ninety 177 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: percent of the time, and I can go with the 178 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: football there, as opposed to Gibson, where there's a little 179 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: bit inconsistency with his route running. Yes, he is a 180 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: homewn hitter, right, You get him the ball on screens, 181 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: you get him the ball on like those angle routes 182 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: like we saw in the game things play he did 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Ye, yeah, like that. There's very few people 184 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: in this team that do that correct, but that don't 185 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: require a high level of rot running, nuance and precision. Yes, 186 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I understand those situations, But which which players are going 187 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: to be more impactful on the aggregate to the season. 188 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: I'd say the guy who can consistently win your matchups 189 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: and a guy that is a security blanket for Carson 190 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: went touchdown all the Oh. I mean you know, like 191 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: that's the short sided approach by because how many how 192 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: many adr touchdowns have there been, like there's been one, 193 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: and how many third down conversions that have extended drives 194 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: for points? Right, So I'm not anti m kissing. It 195 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: sounds like you are, all right pick number two for me. 196 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go defensive back here, Well we can go. 197 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: We have to go skill skill, What are the rules? Okay, 198 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: do not have to go in order can fill in 199 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: anybody at any times mistakes, Go ahead. I am gonna 200 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: go with someone who I think is going to play 201 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: a prominent role in year two. It is not like 202 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: the definitive starter starter because I believe we look at 203 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: our safeties and go McCain curl, I'm gonna take Derek Forrest. 204 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Short side of I'm gonna take Derek Forrest. Uh. He 205 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: is clearly going to have a large role for them, 206 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: maybe some of this very famous Buffalo nickel stuff that's 207 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: going on. I've seen a major difference in his play 208 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: this year. He's aggressive, he hits. I think he can 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: be the type of player that can have an impact 210 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: player on the back end with the way that he hits. 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a bit a massive difference 212 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: for him from last summer to this summer, and clearly 213 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: with the youth around that unit, he's gonna play a lot. 214 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: So to me, he plays a pivotal role specifically in 215 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: three safety set. Yeah. And if you know, you were 216 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: the one who said that, Like it's about consistency, and 217 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: it's a week to week thing. Like if you look 218 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: at the evaluation this week, the guy who's getting more 219 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: burned there now is Percy Butler. Who I'm gonna pick. 220 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm picking Percy Butler for the defensive back inst tell 221 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: me why, and I'll tell you why. I think Forrest 222 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: ends up playing a more prominent role. Why. What's happening 223 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: is happening, so so again, I if we're just picking 224 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: off like today, I think your pick is fine, Like 225 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: I think it's five pick because I think right now 226 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: he's playing better football. But I think over the course 227 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: of the season, like and that's part of the thing 228 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: with a draft, as you're drafting for potential, you know 229 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, You're drafting on opportunity, and I think 230 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the guy with more growth potential is Percy Butler. Right, 231 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: he can play nickel, he runs a four two, He 232 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: hits when he can like, I think that's an area 233 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: of the game where he needs to improve. He can 234 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: fit the runs. He gives you that position flex and 235 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: the speed to play the position flex. I think while 236 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Derek Forrest is a good football player and there's no 237 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that he's going to be a 238 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: solid pro for a couple of years, his ceiling is 239 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: not what I'm looking for in my draft. I want 240 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: more upside, and I think this week Percy Butler is 241 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: shown an opport shown in my opinion, that he can 242 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: do more in the context of this defense than Derek Forrest. 243 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Ken I think Derek Forrest is a good football player, 244 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: but I think he's limited, and I think that's why 245 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Percy. Like right now, I think you're right, 246 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking Week five, who's gonna be playing better? 247 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be Percy Butler. Okay, I 248 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Forrest's job for the bulk of 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: the year. I think Butler is where Forrest was a 250 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: year ago. It is probably about a year away from 251 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: playing a more prominent role. If I was taking a 252 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Dynasty depth draft right now, I would take Butler over 253 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Forrest for all the reasons that you just said that 254 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: next year or the year after that, I'm hoping that 255 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: he's a starting safety for them. He's playing a prominent role. Clearly, 256 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna be on special teams this year. I think 257 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: he is not that player for them this year short 258 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: of injuries, and therefore, I don't think you're going to 259 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: see him as much as maybe you're anticipating you're gonna 260 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: see him. And the other thing about this week, and 261 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: you can tell me if I'm wrong about this, right, 262 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: I think the backups are playing a ton. It's Baltimore, 263 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: and I think he's just getting ready for the amount 264 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: of reps that he's about to have in a game 265 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: that is not going to really actually carry over to 266 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: what we see on So I'm really glad you brought 267 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: that up because they are doing Baltimore prep, but they're 268 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: also doing like varsity prep too for Jacksonville at this point, right, 269 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: And the guy who's getting the reps with the varsity 270 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: is Percy Butler. It's not the Forrest, right, or it's 271 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: not Forrest, Excuse me. I always want to call him 272 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: the Forest anyway, So I think that there. So what 273 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: I think is, despite what he's shown in practice and 274 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: in the games, I think the coaching staff here thinks 275 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: he's a little bit farther ahead of that where we 276 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: think he's at. And I've talked to coaches. I think 277 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: they're excited about him for the reasons that I'm excited 278 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: about him, and I think if he can kind of 279 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: grow up, I think they want to give him the job, 280 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: and I think that is going to lead to more 281 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: opportunity for him, which is why I don't disagree with you. 282 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: But I do think that this him playing more on 283 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: the starting defense this week shows a thought process that 284 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: is exciting from the staff. And also I think the 285 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: other thing is has cam Crow performed exceptionally well at 286 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: the Buffalo nickel? Has he performed to the standard that 287 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: they want? Obviously he had a you know, coverage bust 288 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: against Carolina, had a coverage bunch against Kansas City. Maybe 289 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: they're trying to solidify his role within the defense as 290 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: that kind of post safety or the traditional safety. Yes, 291 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: and find a guy who can play the Buffalo nickel. 292 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: And in my opinion, after talking to the coaches here, 293 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: they say Forrest has a hard time closer to the the 294 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and would not be good in that role. 295 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I think Percy Butler has a skill set to maybe 296 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: play more as that pure Buffalo nickel. I think that 297 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: makes cam crowl stuffs an interesting development. This is two 298 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: years of a row at the safeties where they ended 299 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: up maneuvering people to finally get them into a position 300 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: where they were having some effectiveness. I agree with you 301 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: with Curl. I think he might be one of their 302 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: best players on defense, that he'd find the right role 303 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: for right absolutely clearly. All right, my next pick, I'm 304 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna go on the line, and I think that this 305 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: guy's going to play an absolutely massive role for this 306 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: team this year. And that's West Schweitzer. Okay, Yeah, I 307 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: mean I don't disagree at this juncture, like I don't 308 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: think that this team can rely necessarily on, especially on 309 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: the interior, a regular productive starting five, that there's going 310 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: to be rotational pieces that are going to happen. Schweitzer 311 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: could be a backup center if you need him to be. 312 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: He can play either guard. He probably starts against Jacksonville 313 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: if he's healthy enough to do so. With Trey Turner's injury, 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: we haven't seen him all camp. I think that's almost 315 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: a definitive that that's going to happen. And I have 316 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: a feeling he is going to be for them this year. 317 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: The Swiss Army Knife. They need to keep the whole 318 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: thing together. He feels like a glue guy to me. 319 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: When he got hurt last week. That was the one 320 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: where I went, they're in trouble on the line. They 321 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: need him. Yeah, and I love this pick by you. 322 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a great pick because of all the 323 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: reasons you said. Right, he's basically starting. He's basically been 324 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: starting for the last two and a half weeks of 325 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: training camp. He's physical, he's smart, he can play center, 326 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: he can play the other guard. He's the guy that's 327 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of been in there interchangeably with the other pieces. 328 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: I love the pick, but I'm gonna go yeah, yeah, 329 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: but if I'm gonna pick somebody, I'm gonna go Cornelius 330 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Lucas here just because I think the tackle depth, Like, 331 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: I think you can get away, Like if we were 332 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: just drafting guards, I think you can get away. You 333 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: can survive with Ciddy Charles, you can you can survive 334 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: with some of these other backup pieces. I think they 335 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: don't have enough tackles on this team, right, And I 336 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: think that that's why Cornelius is so much more valuable 337 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: than West. I'm watching the waiver wire next week when 338 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: teams go down to fifty three. I don't think it's 339 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: out of the realm at all that there's a potential 340 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: interior alignment or a tackle to your point, the right 341 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: one somehow doesn't make a team and is available, that 342 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: they take a look at that. Yeah, because I think 343 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: right now, you've got excellent I think you have excellent 344 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: depth on the inside, right, And I think even if 345 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Cosmi can play can play guard, I think that's outstanding also. 346 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: So again, it's just it's tackle is more valuable on 347 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: this team in my opinion, because there aren't many of them, 348 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: and because he's a high quality start. I mean, he played, 349 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: he practiced two days last week and had not standing game, 350 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: So that just speaks to kind of the caliber of 351 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: player that he is. And again, I love Wes, but 352 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: this is more just like what I think which position 353 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I think is more valuable. And I'm gonna say tackle. Okay, 354 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on the line. I'm gonna go the 355 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: other side of the ball. But first let me tell 356 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: you where we are. Let's see, we both cheated. I 357 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: took Antonio Gibson and you took JD. Mckissic, right, which 358 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: we both agree probably are kind of starters. So it's 359 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of not fair, Derek. I mean, yours is probably 360 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: more cheating than mine. But that's okay, yeah, but you 361 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: let me do it. It's not cheating if you allow that. Again, 362 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: that's right. We then went with I took Derek Forrest. 363 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: You took Percy Butler. You like the upside of Butler. 364 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: I think by mid season you might see a lot 365 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: more of him on the field, especially with the speed. 366 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: And it's not that I don't like Forest because I 367 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: think he is a physical for all the things you said, 368 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: but I think I just think the upsides there. And 369 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: then I went with west Schweitzer because I think he's 370 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: going to play a key role in the interior of 371 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line, probably playing multiple positions this year. You 372 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: took Cornelius Lucas because you feel like they're gonna need 373 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: help at tall and the tackling is just like there's 374 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: no there's no tackle depth here, like who's your who's 375 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: the other tackle on the team? Yeah you have obviously 376 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: um Leno caused me and who correct and the other 377 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: guys you know, like beat Willie Beavers, all those guys 378 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: that I don't I think they've had good camps. I 379 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: don't think their NFL caliber swing guys. And so you 380 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: need a swing guy. Cordeli is the guy. All right, 381 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on the line other side of the ball. 382 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: And again this is feels like a cheat because he's 383 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: going to start week one because Chase Young is out. 384 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take James Smith. Will get out of here. 385 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: That is cheating. He's a starter. You gotta pick somebody else, 386 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: But he's starting if Chase Young was on the team. 387 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: But he's not be starting. If my aunt had a beard, 388 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: she'd be my uncle or whatever. That is, right, Like 389 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: when west Schweitzer's healthy, he will be starting that cheating 390 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: if if Trey Turner's healthy, he's not starting, though, that's 391 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: what That's what I'm saying, and he Chase is different 392 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: because he's on the pup's I could be starting till 393 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: week five. It's fair, Maddie. You can say that in 394 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: the microphones. Just so why is it fair? It is 395 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: fair because Chase Young would be the starter of this 396 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: team and the gay healthy he startin, right. I don't 397 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: think there's that big of a distant him in a 398 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: case too anyway, But go ahead, I'll take James Smith Williams. Clearly, 399 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: there is going to be a lot of attention on 400 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: Montes sweat, I would think from offensive coordinators who are 401 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: going to be protecting because they don't have the other 402 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: freak on the other side of the line. And therefore 403 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: James Smith Williams is going to play a big role 404 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: in determining whether this pass rush and this front is 405 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: as successful as I think we both know they need 406 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: to be. Because frankly, like I still firmly believe this 407 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: team goes as far as that unit takes them, which 408 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: is why I think you're hearing Ron Rivera publicly pressure 409 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: them even in the preseason to say, we want things 410 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: to go this way, we want things to go that way. 411 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: He's pointing out pass rush lanes and that type of stuff. 412 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: He's coming at them publicly to try to get the 413 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: message across that they are a big deal, which makes 414 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: him a big deal for this until Chase comes back, 415 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: whatever date that's going to be. Right. Um yeah, I 416 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't deserve I think you're I 417 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: think this is like cheating kind of because he's basically 418 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: been starting since this start. He started all OTA's all 419 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: of training camp, like you let me pick Gibson. Gibson 420 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: is there's a rotational element anyway, I'm gonna go Daniel 421 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Wise here, and I think Daniel Wise because he has 422 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: shown tremendous potential inside he's flash as a pass rusher. Again, 423 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm playing the game correctly, so I'm going with a 424 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: depth player, not a starter at a position. So I 425 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: understand what it means I win, But I think, no, 426 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I disagree with that. Let me do that. 427 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: I want I don't know. Oh, they're gonna pick the 428 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: team that doesn't have Antonio Gibson on it. Okay, I 429 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: think mckissi. We just talked about why. I think McKissick 430 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: is a better fit for the twenty twenty two NFL 431 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: standard of what the NFL is than Gibson is. You 432 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: want big plays, I want consistency. I want first downs. 433 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: I want to extend drives. I want mismatches and if 434 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: you can tell me that flashy touchdowns and yelling touchdown 435 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: way and how many times but times are going to 436 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: happen this year? How many times? Once? It happened one 437 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: time last year on a big, flashy long Touchdow. I'm 438 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: just saying, we're just talking ball. We're just talking ball. 439 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: We're just talking ball here. We're just talking ball. So 440 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go yeah. Daniel Wise, I think a lot 441 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: of potential, a lot upside are gonna be that fourth 442 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: internal internal piece there. I think he'll play a lot 443 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 1: of football for this team, much like James Smith, much 444 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: like Casey two Hill. Obviously, Big Phil is a guy 445 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: that I thought about going with here, but I think 446 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of cheating because he's you know, he's gonna 447 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: be the starter of the Sinco package. He's your third element. 448 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna play a lot of football. So Daniel Wise, 449 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: just to kind of get the name note right out there. 450 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: He's at outstanding camp, outstanding preseason, a ton of pressures, 451 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: and seems to be playing with a kind of nice 452 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: mentality which I enjoy. Okay, this feels like a cheat too, 453 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: so you can I'll let you not let me do 454 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: this if you think this one's unfair. Okay, can I 455 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: pick Curtis Samuel? He's the third guy, right, so we're 456 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: trying to bring Yeah, Maddie, what's the what's the rest? 457 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: I picked the third guy on the depth draft. He's 458 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: starting it at your f position though, you know what 459 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the starter in your as your third receiver. 460 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: It's like it's like Danny is what was the guy's 461 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: name up in New England who started like Westwelker, He 462 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: was like the leading receiver in the NFL. But he's 463 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: the third guy on the roster. Like is that that 464 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: doesn't seem right to me? Do you think they still? Okay, 465 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: hold on before you rule on this, Maddie, teams now 466 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: start Monday night football, not introducing a second tight end 467 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: or fullback that introduce a third wide receiver. You know 468 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he's gonna be on the screen 469 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: before the game starts, saying I am starting for the Commanders, 470 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: so I can't pick him. I mean, Maddie's Maddie's judging. 471 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, with that justification alone, I feel like we 472 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: can't allow it. Okay, that's fine. Can I pick John 473 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: Bates that it is a tough one coach, I'm gonna 474 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: go yes, Yeah, because you have to because Logan Thomas 475 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: flex wild card. No, you could be your skill. He's 476 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: your skill skill or your flex wild I guess I'll 477 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: take skill because then it makes it easier for me 478 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: because I could pick anybody with flex wild card. Right. 479 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: But he's he's a skill player, right, you tell me? Yeah? 480 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: And he's also hurt though, So does that impact your No, 481 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: because I have a feeling they're just taking it slow 482 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: with him, and I'm hoping that that's what the cases. 483 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Then he's going to be back. I also think, in 484 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: the same way that I talked about Schweitzer, I think 485 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: he's integral, Yeah, completely totally integral to what they do 486 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: this year. He's going to be there by far best 487 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: blocking tight end that they have on the field. I 488 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: think with all of the concern I have about the line, 489 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: with pieces going in and out, likely some rotational pieces, 490 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: I think he's someone that helps them solidified protection. And 491 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: we found out last year he has hands. Yeah, So 492 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: if Logan Thomas has to be on a pitch count 493 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: or is not coming back really early in the season, 494 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: I think he's an integral player here. So that's why 495 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I took John Bates. No. I think, like John, I'm 496 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: You're not gonna find a bigger John Bates fan than 497 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: me in this entire building. He's maybe the most physical 498 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: blocker in the NFL. And when you're talking about kind 499 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: of building a run game with, you know, kind of 500 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: this diverse backfield, I think that's huge. You mentioned the 501 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: past protection, which he excels at. You mentioned the hands. 502 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: He's a very well rounded dude, great frame, all the things, 503 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: And I guess I would actually stay with tight end 504 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: as well, and I would go Cold Turner here, and 505 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: I think col Turner because he has hurt as well. 506 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: And again, this is one of those weird things where 507 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: if you're going off of just like the roster today, 508 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: I probably go somewhere else. But just based on what 509 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: he showed in training camp, to catch radius, the physical stature, 510 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: the ability to win one on ones. Again, that's a 511 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: premium for me. Can we create mismatches when we get 512 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: an empty who's matching him? Put that guy and can 513 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: he win in The answer I think is yes, I 514 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: love Bates and he can win in a different way. 515 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: Like if we're in you know, kind of a running formation. 516 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I know he can be the defensive and I know 517 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: he can be the linebacker in that physical element of 518 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the game. But if we're trying to find like a 519 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: Gronkowski light type of player who I can line up 520 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: and say, oh I get a man zone, tell he 521 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: can run a deep route, I know he can win 522 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: catch the fade. I think that's a very valuable skill set. 523 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: And again he has hurt. The hamstring thing is is alarming, 524 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: but because it's the second time it's happened, he had 525 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: the same thing happened in OTA's But again, that's a 526 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: guy that I just think he speaks to where the 527 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: NFL is going from a matchup standpoint. If I can't 528 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: go him because he's hurt, I would probably go Campsims 529 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: here like, that's the other guy. Would go with cam Sims, Yeah, 530 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: would be the other if I can't go Cold Turners. 531 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: He falls into the same category that Mkissock falls in 532 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: with me now where I look at him and I go, well, 533 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: I think he could be a really valuable player for them. 534 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I just don't know how many reps he's gonna get, 535 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: how often he's going to be on the field. I 536 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: think last week we saw what he can be in 537 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: the red zone. Yeah. So, but that's one of those 538 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: guys where I go, I agree with you. I just 539 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: with all of these different pieces this year, I can't 540 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: quite figure out the puzzle yet. Yea. And I think 541 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: also like his chemistry or lack thereof with Carson Wentz 542 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: is significant, right, they just haven't All of his big 543 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: plays have come and stem from his time with Heinecke 544 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: on the field, and him and Carson just haven't seemed 545 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: to jive yet. So that's another thing to keep an 546 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: eye on with him. But yeah, if I'd go Cold Turner, 547 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: if I can't go him, I'd probably go camp Sims. 548 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: All right, wild card, So I can't take Curtis Samuel, 549 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: you finally put your foot down. Yeah, seriously, Oh man, 550 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: this is a tough one. Oh god. I mean, I 551 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: feel like there's part of me that's gonna pick somebody 552 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: that may not make the team for your wild card 553 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: and that's that's like, that's a scary move to do. Yeah, 554 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: that is that's ill advised. It is ill advised. That's true. 555 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: A safe A safe pick if someone is going to 556 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: be I don't know, I have no idea where you're 557 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: going with this. So I'm gonna say Milo Eifler. I 558 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: like Milo a lot. I'll take him. Milo Eifler. I 559 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: actually think he might be in contention for the fourth 560 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: spot right now. He just well that's why I'm picking up. 561 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's gonna make the team, so obviously, like 562 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: and I go off of you know, this is just 563 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: me watching. He's on all the special teams unit especially, 564 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: and therefore like that to me is the ultimate sign 565 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: of he's probably at leases in line to make the team. 566 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: And I think we all know that depth at the 567 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: linebacker position is a real, real question. So there are 568 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: three or four guys that I'd be keeping my eyes 569 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: on the entire summer, like Milo Eifler, Trey Walker, who 570 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: retired him back to John you know, like, yeah, I'm 571 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: watching these guys that I'm going one or two of 572 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: these guys are going to make this team. And Eiffler, 573 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: to me, flashes among them the most speed, Right, So 574 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: I think he's going to play, like because out of necessity, 575 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: he's going to play this year and therefore he could 576 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not like looking at it like you're looking 577 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: at Percy Butler, go guy, see the upside. I don't 578 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: know that I see that, but I do know he's 579 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: going to play, and if he has an impact, it's 580 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: going to be invaluable to them. I mean, another interesting 581 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: thing here would be to say, like a guy like 582 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: I like your pick, and I think he's gonna make 583 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: the team. I think he's gonna find a role. Like 584 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys in the in the third 585 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: preseason game where you're like, oh, like this is your 586 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, the period of the punctuation on the end 587 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: of your very solid offseason. If he plays well, I 588 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: think he's got the job. But you know, a guy 589 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: like Mayo is another interesting one here. I think I'm 590 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: not gonna go Mayo, but you know, he's a guy 591 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: that could start for a lot of teams in a 592 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: situational starter for this team, and I think it would 593 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: be get certain offenses. Yeah, absolutely, ins Tennessee. I think 594 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: he's the guy that's gonna be in there. He's he's 595 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit less um. He's a little bit more 596 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: specific than Bates, for example, but a guy who's very 597 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: very good at you know, reading his keys in the 598 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: run game, getting guys lined up. Obviously lacking a little 599 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: bit in coverage. But I don't think he's bad there. 600 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: It just doesn't he doesn't like excel. That's why he's 601 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: not starting here. But I'm gonna go with Dax Miln. 602 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: I think from my flex guy, and I think because 603 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: the return ability. He knows all the receiver spots. So 604 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: if there were an injury, I think I could see 605 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: a way where he's playing a little bit um situationally. 606 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: And I think he's just had an outstanding camp. You know, 607 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: he's just been super consistent catching the football, running routes, 608 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: has seems to have a good relationship with not only 609 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: m Heinekey, but also Carson Wentz. So he's a guy 610 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: that I I'm very excited about. All Right, So let's recap. 611 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Here's what I got Antonio Gibson, John Bates, West Schweitzer, 612 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: James Smith, Williams, Derek Forrest, Milo Eifler. You've got JD. McKissick, 613 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: col Turner, Cornelius Lucas, Daniel Wise, Percy Butler, and Dax Milne. 614 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, do you really think you're gonna win? Of course, 615 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: because I've drafted better than you, I don't think so. 616 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: So let's see you went. I mean, I have like 617 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: four starters, so that's a little unfair. But the only 618 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: one that kind of irks me a little bit is 619 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: the James one. But I think, honestly, I think I 620 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: have for the offer the type of philosophy that I'm 621 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: trying to embrace. I feel like I have the correct 622 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: offensive personnel. You know, I've got a guy in Dax 623 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: who knows multiple receiver spots can return kicks. You're all 624 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: upside though, You're all upside here, am I though? Yeah? 625 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean you're upside with Gibson. John is consistent West. 626 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm upside with Gibson. He rushed for a thousand yards 627 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: last year. But I'm saying in the context you're saying. 628 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying upside in the context of the new offense 629 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: with Brian Robinson. You're looking at best case scenario for you. 630 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: Should you saying you think he's going to be used 631 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: more than Mkissic. I think it Mkissics will be used 632 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: more than Gibson, and that's why I like my pick 633 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: better there, because I don't I don't think Gibson will 634 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: have the same type of pass catching volume that we 635 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: saw against Kansas City because I think Mkissic will be around. 636 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: I do think there will be plays for him. I'm 637 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: not saying he's not gonna make plays. I don't think 638 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be at the volume that you think you're 639 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna get here. I think he will have in most 640 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: games as many targets as J. D. McKissick. For I 641 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: don't know he will definitively have more carries than him 642 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: in every game. I don't, so I think he will 643 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: get more touches than Mkissick will on a week to 644 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: week basis one way or the other. What he won't 645 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: be is getting the volume of carries that he got 646 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: in the past. So that's gonna get limited down to 647 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: what five to ten maybe right on any particular day, 648 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: but on targets, there's no way he doesn't receive three 649 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: to five targets a game. Three to five targets a game, 650 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: But like, where are those targets coming from? You? You're 651 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: not going to give John like John's get deserves. Probably 652 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: in the context of this offense, I'd say seven to 653 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: ten Terry probably ten to twelve, right, and then you're 654 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna allocate. So then where's mckissic getting. But what I'm 655 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: saying so mkissic at least is in on third downs 656 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: right as a pass protector, He's gonna be running out 657 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: of that kind of three wide receiver set more he 658 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: plays in that set. More, that set's gonna be on 659 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: the field more. So. I mean again, I don't I 660 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: don't want to sound like I'm down on Gibson. The 661 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: thing I'm down on is how does he fit in 662 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: this new use? And that's the big question I have 663 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: for him? All Right, Yeah, I am upside with cold Turner. 664 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: You are upside with cold Turner who hasn't practiced it 665 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. And listen, like I saw in 666 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: the spring too. Yeah, I haven't seen him play in 667 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: a NFL game yet. I've seen Bates play, and I 668 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: like Bates a lot. Yeah, I took Schweitzer because I 669 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: just think he's gonna be Swiss army Knight for them 670 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: and necessary for them to kind of keep the whole 671 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: thing together. I agree with you, though Lucas is going 672 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: to play a lot. It's prominent role, and they are 673 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: very very thin at down. I kind of feel like 674 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: that's a wash. I mean, just depending on how you're 675 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: looking at that. You squint and you say West is 676 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: more valuable Corn because of the tackle depth. You know, 677 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of whichever you're whichever you're looking at. I 678 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: got Chiefs with Williams, who's going to have more sacks 679 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: than Daniel Wise, so I'm gonna look better. I don't 680 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: know how many sacks did have last year, and I 681 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: think he had one. So again, Daniel Wise in preseason 682 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: has already had three or two in a pressure, two 683 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: in three pressures. So a guy who's been able to 684 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: generate pass rush with limited opportunities now, is his role 685 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: going to be that in the season. Probably not, But again, 686 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: a guy that I think has some upside, I got 687 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: Derek Forrest over YouTube Percy Butler. I agree with you 688 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: about the upside. I feel like this is and again 689 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: that this conversation next year, and I'd go I would 690 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: take Percy Butler over there. And again, I think this 691 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: kind of goes back to the Gibson mckisic thing, just 692 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: in terms of usage. I think you think Gibson's going 693 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: to be used more, and that's why you value him. 694 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: I think mcisics and more. I think Butler will be 695 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: used more earlier than I would have thought, even like 696 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: three days ago. Okay, and then I took Milo Eifler 697 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: and you took Dacks Mill and as we think that 698 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: these are guys who won't have prominent roles but could 699 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: have important roles, right, And I think of the two, 700 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Dacks will probably be more significant because I think he's 701 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: returning punts. Okay, what's the rules? People get to vote 702 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: on this thing now? All right? We want fans to 703 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: decide on our drafts. Man, we got in the weeds 704 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: today with this is good though, Commanders dot Com the 705 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: Depth Draft. If you vote for him, it's only because 706 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: you favor the player, and it's just not there. WHOA, 707 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: it's I don't know about that. It's probably because I 708 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: could do ten pushups. I can do ten push you 709 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: can't do it, right, now you can't do it right now? 710 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: You see I had kiss and you said I can't 711 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: do it. My wrist sharts. So because I had risk surgery, 712 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: it's not my wrist hurts. Can you get push ups? 713 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Yes or no? Do you want to 714 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: take me to the hospital? Is that what you want 715 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: to do? I don't want to do that. Do you 716 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: want to actually bother our trading staff to fix my wrist? 717 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: We should maybe do something that I shouldn't be to 718 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: go down and get it taped up and then you 719 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: do ted push ups. All right, that's it for this show. 720 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: See what happens next time.