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Speaker 1: Hey man, Russell Peters here and this is culturally canceled.

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Speaker 1: This episode is all about hip hop and hip hop

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Speaker 1: legends that I'm happy to call my friends. First of all,

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Speaker 1: we have Kango Kid. He is from the group U

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Speaker 1: t FO you know the cano you know who he is?

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Speaker 1: Can go from you t F. Oh so she said,

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Speaker 1: so baby, don't you know you know, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know the drill on this anyway, we talk about

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Speaker 1: hip hop and dancing and being a fool. He's responsible

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Speaker 1: the first and only song to accumulate over twenty five

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Speaker 1: remakes in one year's time, just from Roxane Roxanne. So

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Speaker 1: that gets interesting. And then we have my brother, my

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Speaker 1: my housemates, my friend, the legendary hip hop artist DJ

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Speaker 1: and producer, founding member of d I t C. The

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Speaker 1: Dicken in the Crates originators, what player hat us holding

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Speaker 1: down Bronx creators. You get the idea. He's also the

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Speaker 1: creator the culturally canceled theme song. Yeah, he gave me that.

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Speaker 1: He did me a solid and made me it. It

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Speaker 1: will be the one that you hear to beg any

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Speaker 1: of the show. That's Lord Finesse. Lord Finesse was also

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite rappers of all time. And he's

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Speaker 1: also now one of my favorite humans of all time

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Speaker 1: because he's literally one of my best friends in the

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Speaker 1: entire planet. Also, we have the legendary smooth Be, one

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Speaker 1: half of Nice and Smooth Greg Nice and Smoothie. Um,

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Speaker 1: Greg Nice and I MMC smooth Bee. Anyway, smooth Bee

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Speaker 1: is here with us, and you'll see something. He knows

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Speaker 1: how to tell a story, because Smoothie's got stories for days,

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Speaker 1: and they're the craziest little hip hop stories. Stuff you

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Speaker 1: didn't know about. So many things I learned on this episode,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're really gonna enjoy this. Honestly, this

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Speaker 1: episode of smooth Be making a long story short, a

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Speaker 1: short story long, A long story to Long Island, a

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Speaker 1: short story to two short falls. Went North Dakota. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that's a real place, but I made that

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Speaker 1: up on the fly. It's a trip to hip hop

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Speaker 1: early days, early days, but not early early days, but

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Speaker 1: like the early days, like when before he made it,

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Speaker 1: before he was smooth B. So you're gonna dig this,

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Speaker 1: and it's it was so much fun to talk about

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Speaker 1: the music I love with these guys. These are guys

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Speaker 1: like you know you gotta figure that they each influenced

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Speaker 1: a different year of my life. You know, U t

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Speaker 1: FO and Rocks and Rocks and well was ninth grade

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Speaker 1: for me. And then you got you know, Nice and Smooth.

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Speaker 1: I bought that first album and there's so much and

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Speaker 1: Lord Finesse, my cousin Bob and I used to sit

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Speaker 1: in the car and literally dissect the CD when we

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Speaker 1: get the new album, and we'd be like, Yo, did

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Speaker 1: you hear what he said? So listen. If you're into

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Speaker 1: hip hop even remotely, or think you're into hip hop,

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Speaker 1: or you're an older head and you you're just listening

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Speaker 1: to a podcast, this is the one for you to

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Speaker 1: listen to, alright, So welcome to this is by the way,

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Speaker 1: this is Russell Peters, and welcome to Culturally Canceled. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm a hip hop guy. People know that about me

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Speaker 1: that I love hip hop. I grew up with it.

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Speaker 1: It shaped my life and made me the way I

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Speaker 1: am and made me talk a certain way, act a

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Speaker 1: certain way, be a certain way. And I'm here with

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Speaker 1: three of my heroes who are also three of my

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Speaker 1: very dear friends. Um on my left to have Smooth

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Speaker 1: Beef from the legendary nice and smooth. What's that? Baby?

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Speaker 1: Here we go, and across from me we have a

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Speaker 1: guy who defined my ninth grade for me. Um, he's

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Speaker 1: can't go from U t FO. So I said, so, baby,

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Speaker 1: don't you know, I stay, I stay on Cuman. He's

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Speaker 1: very good like that. And on my and on my

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Speaker 1: right is my right hand brother, Um, the underboss himself,

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Speaker 1: the funky technician. Um, what was that other name that

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Speaker 1: I didn't know your head? Um? Was that other one?

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Speaker 1: The trade lord? So right about now, so we're just

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Speaker 1: here is we're sitting in the back of my backyard.

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Speaker 1: And so if you hear wind noises or helicopters and airplanes,

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Speaker 1: that's because we're doing this ship outside and they're coming

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Speaker 1: to get you. Well, well you're Canadian, so they're coming

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Speaker 1: to get you or me. No off switch with this

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Speaker 1: none So we don't really have a plan. We don't

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Speaker 1: have a plan with this podcast. We're just kind of

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Speaker 1: gonna talk. And these are conversations that generally happened in

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Speaker 1: met Bobby Brown. Yes. First of all, people don't know

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Speaker 1: the connection with you and Bobby Brown. Okay, oh man,

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Speaker 1: I can elaborate on that now, Bobby, that's my dude. Man.

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Speaker 1: Day one day one, stay one day one. And he

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Speaker 1: was before Greg Nice. Yes, yes, you know when I

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Speaker 1: then uh that I met Greg like summer of eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Bobby is my dude. Uh. He introduced me

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Speaker 1: And what did you end up writing for him? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The Girl next Door on his first album. I wrote

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Speaker 1: the raps, well, all the raps on it more or less. Uh,

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Speaker 1: a trivia you see me see in the girlfriend video.

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Speaker 1: Man going on? It was this. This wasn't the my

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Speaker 1: Prerogative album. No no, no, no no, no no. I actually

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Speaker 1: no um in the middle of the song. Don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm really not super ego. Trips is not

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Speaker 1: took Bobby to Teddy's house. Uh, and they actually did

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Speaker 1: Prerogative because Teddy lived in St. Nick Projects and at

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Speaker 1: first album. That's where he would record Stephanie Mills, Johnny Kemp,

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Speaker 1: So all of that was in the first floor in

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Speaker 1: knew that Teddy did the show. No, No, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that. I didn't know that either, tell versus, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: ain't that crazy? So yeah, yeah, I didn't know wrap

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Speaker 1: He was like, yo, smooth, y'all, whoa, you know, thanks,

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Speaker 1: But we became tight, you know, funny because he was

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Speaker 1: the irony of it. He um. Of course he's famous,

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Speaker 1: So the thing was, I'm running around. I've frequented every

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Speaker 1: in hall um everywhere, right, so um, you know, ironically,

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Speaker 1: I knew where he lived, and I knew Marquel as well.

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Speaker 1: Long story, short, um bottom line. So so Bobby was

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Speaker 1: the first album was The King of Stage. You gotta

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Speaker 1: check it out, man, he got some bangers in there.

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Speaker 1: Cameo Larry Blackman produced the song that actually he produced

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Speaker 1: the song that I that I wrote on. Also a

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Speaker 1: Girl next Door. Yeah, that was the video that Bobby

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Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't give a funk about any

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Speaker 1: R and B ship, right. I looked at that as

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Speaker 1: I don't want to send that ship. Give me some.

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Speaker 1: I thought a slow song was like left Me Lonely

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Cheating Girl by Steady Be. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: that's some real ship man. I love it. I love it, man,

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Speaker 1: But you know that's that's basically was he didn't know

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Speaker 1: He was like, oh, yo, what's up man? And I said, look,

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Speaker 1: I got Bobby and he was like, oh, what's up Bobby?

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Speaker 1: he fired. You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I know him like like boom boom to see him

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Speaker 1: you know, because Bob is dugged out Nick project. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I want to meet him face to face, and they

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Speaker 1: made prerogative that day. And did he already have the

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Speaker 1: song in his head before that? No, all of that

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Speaker 1: was impromptu right there, right there, dude, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: when we got there, he says. So Teddy comes out.

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Speaker 1: This is why I gotta tell you this story. So

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Speaker 1: he comes out, He out on a sweatsuite. I never

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Speaker 1: forget on the d D the sweat and not on joint,

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Speaker 1: He was like, what's up, guys? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: he was gonna produce some ship. Teddy, Yeah, came up

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Speaker 1: Ed got in his bag son and kept telling us.

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Speaker 1: He said, yo, listen, he said I'm waiting for my singer, man,

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Speaker 1: he said, I'm waiting for him to come from Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: there was a spot in the Bronx called the park

418
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: Side Plaza, and they let him debut in the Parkside Plaza.

419
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: And I remember when he got his name from Doc

420
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: Holiday the Western. So it was like, anyway, long story short.

421
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: He was the first person that I knew that went

422
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: on the road at the time, so that was fascinating.

423
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: He's the first person to tell me that what a

424
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: skeezer was skeezer you know. So anyway, long story short,

425
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: he would come back to the hood and he tell

426
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: us all these fascinating stories and telling me about how

427
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: he was on the road with y'all in on that.

428
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I was like cool. So one day, at this time,

429
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: I was living uptown. I had moved and this was

430
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: Townsend Avenue that I used to live on. Then I

431
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: moved up from Mount Eaton to thirty third. But every

432
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: weekend I will come back to the book to the block.

433
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: Now come back around and I'm kicking with Holiday and

434
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Mix pulls up. Mis pulled up in the BMW. Yeah,

435
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: so he pulls up and it bucked me out because

436
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know we're around, We're the same age,

437
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: and this dude gott a BMW and jewelry from deep

438
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: from hip hop, you know what I'm saying, Like we

439
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: know that from hustling. I was like, this is what

440
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: I want to do, you know what I'm saying. So,

441
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: long story short, I talked to him and then uh,

442
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Holiday introduced me to him and he was like, spit

443
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: forms move and oh boy, I must have hit him,

444
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: hit him with about a hunting bars and then and

445
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: then Mix was like, yo, you dope, and that's all

446
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: I needed to hear. And I damn. They walked home

447
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: that night, you know what I'm saying. I was on

448
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: the high, like but it was. And that was eighty five.

449
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: That was right before I met Bobby. Yeah and so

450
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: um And it was funny because after that night, like

451
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: two a month later, is when I ran into a

452
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Mix and he introduced me to Bobby. That's how deep

453
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: it was. I spit for him. He told me I

454
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: could spit. I was pumped because y'all on the radio

455
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: Leader of the Pack and all this ship is on radio. Baby,

456
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Yo, this ship is a sign. And um.

457
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I was a messenger at the time, and I wasn't

458
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna go to work this particular I never forget it.

459
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Long story show. There was raining and I didn't want

460
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: to go, and some just said go yo after work,

461
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: and I went. I got my rain punched and shoot on.

462
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: I go in this pizza shop. I'm sitting in there

463
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: trying to wait till the rain slow down. And as

464
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: it started slowing down, I look across the street and

465
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: it was right by the Omni Hotel and I see

466
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: Mix mass Ice standing on the corner. So I came

467
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: out and I was like, yo, Mix, and then he looked.

468
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: I was like, it's smooth, and he goes, y'all come there,

469
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: So I come across the street. Now. Mix told me

470
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: prior to that. That night he told me because I

471
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: was like, yeo, I gotta go work to them all

472
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, what you do And I said,

473
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm a messenger and make it to me. I used

474
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: to be a message right, So long story down that

475
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: was another sign to me, you know back there, like

476
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: you are a sign guy. Though yeah, yeah, it's almost

477
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: like you were deaf, damn it. So yeah, So anyway,

478
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: long story, short keep saying a long story. I'm trying

479
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: to shorten this ship. You ain't got a shorten. Were kicking.

480
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: We're kicking, and we're not. I an't gonna Russian nothing. Okay, excellent.

481
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: So here's the kicker. So I come across the street.

482
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: He goes, what you're doing? I said, I'm worried. You

483
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: know my message? He said, that's what you told me that.

484
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, I used to be a message that

485
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: we're talking this ship. And uh he said, I see

486
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: what you're doing out here. He said, I'm waiting for

487
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. I was like, who you know what I'm

488
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: saying because I knew New Edition Robb I did never

489
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, the first and last name together. I didn't

490
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: put all that together. So he said away, Bobby said,

491
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: whos Bobby Brown? He goes, you know, to do from

492
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: New Edition and left. And so back then there was

493
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: a rumor that Bobby has skin cancer. You know, I

494
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: don't know, you just hear crazy. Didn't hear that one?

495
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: I heard that one. It was in the hood. There

496
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: was just some great rumors out there for a lot

497
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, you feel me. So so they were

498
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: talking some skin cancer ship, so I asked Mixed, I said,

499
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I said, that's the one with skin getting man. It

500
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: ain't no damn skin. So I was like, oh, I

501
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: was like mothers be lying, you know, yeah, it exists

502
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: right rights exactly. So that Bobby comes walking out of

503
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: the Omni and then he's with Tommy by the time

504
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: to come out the Omni, and they give him a

505
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: path and then he's just like, looked at me, and

506
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: I looked at him. It just seemed like I knew him.

507
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: It was weird, and I was like, yo, what's I'm

508
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: looking at him like A met this dude before, but

509
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: I fucking know him or something. Look at them and

510
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: he goes, Joe, Bobby just chicked from the Bronx. His

511
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: name is Smooth. This motherfucker crime like that, right, So

512
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: he nice, Oh it gets deeper. So Mixed was like, yo,

513
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: he could spit like that. So Bobby said, well, Ship,

514
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: bring him in the studio like that and uh he said, so,

515
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: so it's like come want And I was like, dude,

516
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm working dog. So he's like, what he said,

517
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: all right, we'll come funk with us after, you know,

518
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: after you get off work. I said, all right, So

519
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: I go and uh I get off work. I go home.

520
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, I got my little skunk weed. You know

521
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My preparation. So I blow down something

522
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: and I put some boz in my eyes because I

523
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know these is new edition guys. You feel I

524
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: crawled them up there, like, come on down and see me. Fine,

525
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: Bobby gets on the phone, but my mom we talked, boom,

526
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: come on down. We have this one out. So long

527
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: story short. I get down to the Omni and I

528
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: see like twenty old English courts in a big boom

529
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: box where I come in the road. I'm like, yo,

530
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: just my real those are courts. So I walk out

531
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: there and he's like, yo, ga and take a court.

532
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my man, I cracked the

533
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: cord over. I'm just chilling and so mixed with in

534
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: there yet. So I'm sitting there and then LLL came

535
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: in nice sound like, oh LLL col what the fuck?

536
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there, And then red alert came in

537
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: and you were like yeah, and then Eric B comes in. Now,

538
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: Eric B didn't put out Painting Full of Nothing yet,

539
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: he didn't put out check Out my Melody or nothing yet, right,

540
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: so he's raphen he came. I can't remember. I just

541
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: saw him in that big gass four finger ring he had.

542
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: That's what stuck out of my mind. And he had

543
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: on arm. So it wasn't Eric being rock him then? No, no, no,

544
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: he as we were talking because after this I rapped

545
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: for them, right and after I spit, he said to me, yo, man,

546
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: you'll be saying that peace guards because I used to

547
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: mix all types of stuff in there. And he even

548
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: said talk about five. So he was like, you you're

549
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: saying that peace guardship. This is Eric said to me.

550
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I was like yeah. So he goes um he said,

551
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: I got up. He said my mc man. He said

552
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: his name is Rock Kim. He said we just hooked up.

553
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: He said we get made to come out, and I

554
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I'm saying. So he said

555
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: he'd be on that and I was like, wow, that's

556
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: what's up, dude. And then ironically, the first time check

557
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: Out My Melody was played in the Latin quarters, I

558
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: came out the Latin Quarters. I was about to leave

559
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: and Eric was standing across the street in front of

560
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: the Popeye's right on the corner. He's just standing there

561
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: with two test presses in his hands. So I was like, Yo,

562
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: what's up? And he was like, Yo, what's up? Man?

563
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: I what's up? He said, this is my new song.

564
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: Ma'm getting me to give it the red alert and

565
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna play, you know, glad Quarters red hot. So

566
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: we went up in there and he gave red alert.

567
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Check out my melody, dude. And when that whistle came

568
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: up here, dude, I was like, dude, you're fucking out

569
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: of here. That's your man. He could spit and he

570
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yo, dude. I literally when I got home,

571
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I called Bobby like four in the morning, yo body,

572
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: because at that time he was trying to put me out.

573
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, your body. It's this new motherfucker.

574
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. They called him the Awesome Ship. Yo. Listen,

575
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: you gotta get you gotta get my beasts together. I

576
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: said this boy, you're a bad motherfucker's son. No, every

577
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: BMC not fun that come on, I need tracks, you

578
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I went Ham. He was like, okay, okay,

579
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: and then he heard then he heard in the world

580
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: rock him, you know, shout out to rock him. But yeah,

581
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was that type

582
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: of thing. And uh, there's a lot of boom boom booms.

583
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: There was a lot of boom boom booms and long

584
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587
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Speaker 1: you put the battery with the back up about No,

588
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to shorten it. Oh ship, now you

589
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,560
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676
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Speaker 1: big rapper. Yeah. He didn't want to be an m C. Yeah,

677
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Speaker 1: I fell into that. That's some bullshit. I wanted to

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680
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681
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682
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,920
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Speaker 1: words I've been writing. Oh, I got this and I

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687
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688
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Man that that is absolutely one song that I will

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Speaker 1: say every member did their part in that song. I

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Speaker 1: wrote my verse doc e. Everyone who came be Fine

691
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Speaker 1: a full force be Fine came up with that. The

692
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Speaker 1: record company wanted us to do a B side to

693
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Speaker 1: a song that we presented to them. We delivered a

694
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Speaker 1: song called hanging Out and did that come out. Yeah, yeah,

695
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: it came out with Roxanne because what the record company

696
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: wanted was on the side. Yeah, it's actually a double

697
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Speaker 1: A side. They're both on the same side, like side

698
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: A is hanging Out and rock sand vocal side B

699
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: is hanging Out in rock Sanne instrumental. Yes, it was

700
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Speaker 1: a double A side. Yeah, I do remember this now,

701
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: and so I remember that Flimsy as twelve inch. I

702
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: must had the UK copy or something, because yeah, I'm

703
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't like I'm sure he did a lot

704
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: of flimsy copies. It wasn't like a spine on it.

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: It was like those flimsy uk I'll give you some

706
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: trivia right now that I just bug all of your out.

707
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: We're being told as we speak today, at the end

708
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: of that Roxanne Roxanne did not go gold. It didn't.

709
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: That's bullshit, thank you. So when you say you got

710
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: your flimsy copy, I'm sure you did. I'm sure a

711
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: lot of people got there. You mean, it's sold enough

712
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: copies to go platinum, So we know he did. You

713
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: know he did. Who's fucking who was that? Select? Is correct?

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Was it that mob ship that was happening back? What

715
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: it was? But I'm telling you, as we speak today,

716
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: thirty something years after the success of that song, I'm

717
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: being told, I'm telling you right, one of the biggest

718
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: rap songs and rap mean, he didn't go gold after

719
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: thirty years. Yeah, that's bullshit. Who's telling you that though

720
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Speaker 1: the own or of the label, and you're supposed to

721
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's what the handset to the fact.

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Speaker 1: That's the I agree, bro, and trust me that that

723
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724
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Speaker 1: a nice lawyer comes in handy. Yeah, man, it probably

725
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Speaker 1: tells you're still own money. Oh yeah, of course that's

726
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: being yeah in shady as Rocks. And that had to

727
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: go platinum the way. Hell yeah, the amount of records

728
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: that record spawned and you don't tell hey, and then

729
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: he's still keeping a story. Ain't even like, nah, you

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Speaker 1: know what last year it just went gold right six

731
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: years later, No, I'm still nothing, still nothing. Yeah, good trying, guys,

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Speaker 1: good trying about a hundred thousand away from that. Oh yeah,

733
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: that's that's yeah. I just thought that. Yeah, man, so

734
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: yes be find a full Force came up with this

735
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: song because the label wanted us to give them a

736
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: B side to hanging Out. And we don't remember hanging

737
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Speaker 1: up because I'm pretty sure I skipped out of hanging out,

738
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: cooling out without it out. It's all about hanging out, definitely.

739
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Speaker 1: I don't even like it when you're doing it right

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Speaker 1: now whatever, three weeks think that ever, I don't even

741
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: think my need will ever hit that record. Yeah. I

742
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,440
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743
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,120
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744
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745
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,600
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746
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: a song about a girl named Roxanne. We said, okay,

747
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: why rocks and I like the name. Okay, fine, what

748
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: do he want us to write about? He says, Kang,

749
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I want you to write about how you're trying to

750
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: get with her and you know you're you're kicking it

751
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: to her and so on, but at the end of

752
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: the song you don't get her. I said, all right, fine,

753
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: I want you to do the same, and at the

754
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: end of the song you don't get her. Um, Doc,

755
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: you do the same, but at the end you get up.

756
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, why he got to get and so

757
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: he goes, all right, find nobody gets a right. Fine,

758
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: So we all went home and wrote out individual wraps

759
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: and uh, we had no idea what beat who We're

760
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: going to do this too? So Be said, you know,

761
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: we'll just do a different beat for everyone. Again, that

762
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: was his idea as well. So I said, well, I

763
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: got a beat that I did at how He's crib

764
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, can I use that beat? And he said yeah,

765
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: without even hearing it. That's how much we all cared

766
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: about this full Force is a hands on production team. Nothing.

767
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: People also don't understand how much Full Force tributed to

768
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: music overall culture. Well this is before all that happened. No, no,

769
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean it just shows you like

770
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: and didn't they write Ship for the Back Straight Boys

771
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: in sync and sync all of them hits. Fucking Samantha Fox,

772
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: remember jacking. I mean looking at pictures of Samantha Fox,

773
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: she was always topless. He got tongue time. I didn't

774
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: get tongue time. That meant to slip that up. I remember,

775
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen every week until j B gets

776
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: his money. Oh yeah, that's the which we were in

777
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: and got edited out. It's another little story. I'll share it.

778
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to ask Russ if he can send

779
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: me that footage. I would love to get that. I

780
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: would love So we presented the song. We did this

781
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: in three days. That's how much we cared about it.

782
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: Three days, gave it to the label. To you, it

783
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: was the throwaway, absolutely was. That song was not, in

784
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: my opinion, supposed to be what it became. Absolutely not.

785
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: In fact, we're the dudes telling the DJ's hanging out.

786
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: That's the hit man. Let's play that. You're like, nah

787
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: read alert, chuck, chill out, Mr Magic, Nah rock saying

788
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: that's the hit. Okay, DJ is no better play whatever

789
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna play. Fine, look at that and that blue

790
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: up to the sky. But Courtney, you know about that song?

791
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: Don't look at you? Courtney is our Roxin? Yeah, God

792
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: be your man, Roxanne Froxin. Did you guys harmonize on that?

793
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: We we all sang the chorus. YEA, man, that was it.

794
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: I can't believe it did what it did. Still can't

795
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: what song he most proud of? Wow, that's a great question, man,

796
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: um and that and I'm encompassing everything you've done. I

797
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: was just about to ask, are you saying what I've

798
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: written for t every anything anything you have done? Okay.

799
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: My answer to that is a song I wrote called

800
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: right next to Me for Whistle. Was that on their album? Yes?

801
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: It was on the album. It went top forty on

802
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: the pop charts, UM and I think it was top ten. Yeah,

803
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I think it was top ten UM R and B.

804
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because what that meant to

805
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: me when I wrote it, and and the fact that

806
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: they performed. He here's a great story with that so

807
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: um Whistle started off as an arm as a rap group. Yes,

808
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I know. They irritated me with that because what's such

809
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: a dope record for me? As? Because I was DJ

810
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: and starting eighty five. So when I got just bugging,

811
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this ship is dope. I can't

812
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: wait to hear what else they gotten. The next thing

813
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: I get is always and you go further back and

814
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, you're did the same ship for s

815
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: m d S did to me when they were the

816
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: four Simcs. Then they came out with Tender Tender, let

817
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Me Say This about, which was a class which was

818
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: actually the first rap group to become an R and

819
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: B group. Though four SMDs we know them as four mcs.

820
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: They never recorded a rap song, I know. And that's what.

821
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: Never recorded a rap song as four smcs. When they

822
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: first came out, it was scratch. That was after their

823
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: first joint was give Me for Give Me Girl. Wasn't

824
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: forgive me girl. Oh there was another one, let Me

825
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: Love you, let me love you, wasn't let me love you,

826
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: let me love you? Right, So that was their first single.

827
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: So they so they never recorded a rap song. Whistle

828
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: recorded a rap song and that's the thing I didn't.

829
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I knew back then that

830
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: the four SMDs used to be the four Smcs because

831
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: I was in Toronto. We never I was just like, wait,

832
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: wasn't there the four smcs? That's probably the battles? Yeah, yeah,

833
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: because I was like, those tapes were why is it

834
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: so close to Camoral battles? I got those? You gotta

835
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: make me some of those. I'll put on a stick

836
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: for you. Ayo. So that's how you would know about that.

837
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: But um yeah, so right next to me would be

838
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: it because so um so we recorded the song and

839
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: video was just all on the same album with just

840
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: bugging No what's it? Just bug I don't know if

841
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: right next to me was on that album because that

842
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: was only I don't think so. I don't know if

843
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: right that was the only rap songing is none of that?

844
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: There was a few raps on it, um uh just

845
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: for fun was another rap song. Um, there was a few.

846
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't remember what was on there, to be honest,

847
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: but right next to Me wasn't on there. Still my

848
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: Girl was a song on there. They did do a

849
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: few battants on the first album, Still my Girl, Chance

850
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: for our Love. So we had Barbera's bedroom. I don't

851
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: know if you remember that. I only bought the twelve

852
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: ands and I when I looked at the album, I

853
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: saw the titles like this don't sound like hip hop

854
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: to me. So the second album was called Transformation, which

855
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: was the group transforming from a rap group to an

856
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: R and B group. And so that's the album that

857
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: we had right next to me on so So Video

858
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: music box. I'm sure your familiar uncle Ralph. Of course,

859
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: I was having an anniversary and anniversary performance and filming

860
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: of this show. And uh, the hit at the time

861
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: was right next to me, which was the ballad for Whistle.

862
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: But the crowd stugged out hip hop dudes, and it

863
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: was more dudes in the audience than there were chicks.

864
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: People don't understand that about hip hop events back in

865
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: the day. People like it must have been so many,

866
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: so many chicks. I'm like, not, nope, you'd be lucky

867
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: if you found two sausage fest but dudes out in

868
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: this hip hop joint. And so here comes Whistle slated

869
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: on the on the you know, on the timeline or

870
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: whatever on on the list um to do their ballad.

871
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: Oh boy among all of these I forgot what venue

872
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: it was New York. It was in New York, New York,

873
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: and so one of the members said, na, I'm not

874
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: doing it. Jazz from Whistle jasson No, now, I'm not

875
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: doing this, and we're like, look, this is Ralph's event.

876
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: Ralph asked us to come down. We can't say no

877
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: to Ralph bro and this is at the show. There

878
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: wasn't days before he saying no at the show, and

879
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: you're next to go on. Now, I'm not going on.

880
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Too many dudes out there, I'm not doing this, and

881
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: so they were like, yo, forget you. They voted on

882
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: it and they decided they're going, and he didn't go

883
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: on with them. So it's three out of the four

884
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: members now go on stage. Luckily the lead was done

885
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: by by um Craze, so it's just with that that

886
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: a right. So they get up there as brave as possible,

887
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: singing this R and B ballad, this love song among

888
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: all these dudes, and all the dudes like like kidding me, yeah,

889
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, talk about music calming the savage beasts. All

890
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: of these cats were like hands in the air and

891
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you gotta be kidding. And as I'm

892
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: watching my group sing my song right and calm this

893
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: whole crowd of dudes out, I teared up. Yeah, I'm like, yo,

894
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: this is crazy that I wrote something that has this power.

895
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: That power bro so so that would be the answer

896
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: to the question. That song right there has done so

897
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: much to people who have said to me, that was

898
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: the song that I had at my wedding or when

899
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I think of this song right next to me, unless

900
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: I hear and bye, it's time for me to go.

901
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: I'll call you in the morning so I can let

902
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: you know. And it was done a few times by

903
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: a few other acts Um Left Eyes, God Rest Her Soul,

904
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: R and B group Black be l a Q Right.

905
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: They did a remake of it on their album, that

906
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: album with Platinum. That's my biggest song. Wow, I didn't

907
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. I know I know you had.

908
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you did. Just Bugging the

909
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: song that keeps on giving. See to me, just bugging

910
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: is so important to me. And as a DJ. Remember

911
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: in the DJ world because he Jeff made that song

912
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: his with the whistle, that well, that was that was cash,

913
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: money and jazz. They it is true the Philly connection

914
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: over there. You're right. But then Steve d when he

915
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: juggled banam pam, pam pam, and that's when I first

916
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: saw somebody beat juggling, making beats with bam bam bam bam,

917
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: like jam making joint bah bah bah ba ba ba

918
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: ba ba ba. And that's when he took the end.

919
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I was like, yo that when I saw Jeff Jeff

920
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: take that whistle when it goes yeah with you know

921
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm the whistle is in um Will Smith's biggest song.

922
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: It's all in there, and that's my black. But I

923
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: remember seeing right, you got blacks today. I remember saying

924
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: remember cash money and marvelous and and and they'd be like, okay,

925
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: what you just say? When you saw that girl and

926
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: they play it backwards were nice? And then oh that

927
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: ship was so Joe. And that's probably why I didn't

928
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: buy the Whistle album because I was like, the funk

929
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: are you doing? Just make some choices in life. But

930
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: you know what, and I get it now. I'm like,

931
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm an adult, so let me share this part of

932
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: it with you. WI soon became my outlet group because

933
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: it got to a point to where the members of

934
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: you TFO, we're v tooing songs I bring to the table.

935
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: So I'd say, you know, I think I think this

936
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: would be a great song for our next album. No

937
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not digging that now. Yeah, I'm not

938
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: digging it either. Like okay, so I'm supposed to trash

939
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: this now, this thing that I spent all night writing,

940
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: I got to put this in the garbage now like now,

941
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: so I created another the group that everything that they

942
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: would turn down, I'd give it to them. Yeah, and

943
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: I create even more beef because now it's like, oh,

944
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: you're giving them all the hits. I'm giving them your rejects,

945
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: bro right right right right, giving him hits. I would

946
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: have bluff to have this here, right, you know. You

947
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: know it's funny. On the West Coast, they went backwards

948
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: with it. You got Dre, who was in the World

949
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: Class Wrecking Crew, who did R and B Right, he

950
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: went into the most fucking gangster group of all time. Yo,

951
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: and look to add onto that. Dre World Class Recking

952
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: Crew went on the road with Bobby like his first

953
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: King of Stage tour was World Class Recking Crew Club.

954
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: Now vote and and ready for the world size to

955
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: watch them every night and I see them come out

956
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: and I'm the doctor and you doing Yeah. I'd just

957
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: been laughing, like makeup. Yeah. And then when he came

958
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: out as dr I had no idea right right exposed.

959
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: It was like he was the world. And I was like,

960
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: and then yeah, remember easy either that later remember when

961
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: he had beat for them, he put that picture out

962
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: of Dre with the with the doctor on the with

963
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: the running yeah, yo, do it sounds like? And then

964
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: that memory start going through like I would were passing

965
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: each other on like sure we're in hotels. I'm like, yeah,

966
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: what's up y'all? You know, come on, man, you know

967
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: we know so we from were from the heart of it,

968
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: right from the essence of it. So when you get

969
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity to travel the world, all that ship is dexieting.

970
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't give a damn

971
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: day up there doing some ship that's like a knock

972
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: off a float on you know what float float You

973
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Eat, We on the road. So

974
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm just bugging out like that they ship, you know,

975
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: and watching Club New Vot. I'm just trying to soak

976
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: up game. But I would see him all the time.

977
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: I was ready for the world from Michigan. Oh really,

978
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's not ready

979
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: to Flint from Flint. And those are some old dudes.

980
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: What dude, um Melvin, we we hit each other on

981
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: Instagram now he clicked like on something my mind. I

982
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: was like, holdo, is that the real pretty good world?

983
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: So I hit him, you know, DM like we gotta

984
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: stay in touch. They are still alive. I'm sorry, are

985
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: they all still alive? I don't know about all, but

986
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: the lead singer is Yeah. If they need to go

987
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: back on tour, there needs to be because they do

988
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: a lot of those reunion tours and then there's a

989
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: lot of people that don't get put on them. I

990
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: don't know for whatever reason. I don't know if it's

991
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: with the artist or with the people forgetting that. They varies.

992
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: It just has to be done the right way because

993
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: the problem is they go a lot of as I'll

994
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: tell you as a fan, because I'm not in the

995
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: music world. As a fan, I look at some of

996
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: those things that go, Look, I only want to hear

997
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: them do the one song and once they're going too

998
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: their be tracks. I don't care like there was a

999
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: reason you only had one hit. Just sing the fucking

1000
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: one hit and keep it moving, you know what I mean.

1001
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: I think my worst thing is saying with with the

1002
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: old artist that we love is when they say, now

1003
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna do our new joint. Agree. I agree. You'd

1004
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's not downfalls right right, that's the

1005
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: lowest point of the show because you'll be praying that

1006
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be decent. You know it's not gonna be decent,

1007
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: but you you give that hope, like I hope this

1008
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: come on and then they still rhyming in that old format. Us.

1009
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: Now here's what's funny about what you just said. You're

1010
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: you're addressing it from the audience point of view, which

1011
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm the dude on stage with

1012
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the group saying we're not doing anything new. Bro,

1013
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: the audience don't want to hear that. Now. Now we

1014
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: gotta push this man, We gotta let them know that

1015
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: we we still got it. Like, you're killing me, Bro,

1016
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna hurt us with this bitch you got right now,

1017
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 1: don't do it. And I wish that they could hear

1018
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: you from the audience going I didn't come here song, right,

1019
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm caught in the

1020
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: middle on how do you get this to not happen?

1021
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I say, do the new ship first, slipping in like

1022
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: uh yeah, you slip the song on end like twenty

1023
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: to thirty seconds, you know, and if it ain't working,

1024
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: then you can say, oh we we was bullshit. Let's

1025
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: do the ship you know us for right. But again,

1026
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: it's a real hard place to be when you're the

1027
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: artist dealing with the rest of your group members who

1028
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: wants to defy what you just said. Man, I'm like,

1029
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: my dude, go ask nest. They don't want to hear

1030
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: no new songs right right right? You know. I guess

1031
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: that happens in all groups. Yeah, man, happens in all groups.

1032
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I find myself jealous of solo artists bro being a

1033
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: group member. My damn. I wish I could just move

1034
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: the way Chubb Rock moves, the way Big Daddy Kane

1035
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: can move, way Dougy can move, you know, because there's

1036
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: no voting. He makes a decision. That's how it's going down.

1037
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm solo, so that everything everything you say,

1038
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: and you know, but I produce everything when and it's

1039
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: because I'm a producer, DJ artists, so I do all three.

1040
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: So when I hook up with my DJ, he got

1041
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: the he got everything. He got the instrumentals, he got

1042
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: everything I feel like doing that night. He got there,

1043
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: but he got all the all the instrumentals, regardless, And

1044
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: you address what you want to do first, second, third,

1045
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: how you want to come out. When he gets drunk.

1046
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: Now wine gets drunk, He's gonna slip. He's gonna slip

1047
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: in the songs. He want to hear me perform like

1048
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: he knows, not cool, he knows I do not want

1049
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: to do strictly for the ladies. If it's a bunch

1050
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: of dudes in the crowd, We're not doing that song

1051
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: strictly for the ladies. Now, if we come in, we

1052
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: come in the spot and he sees some females. Are

1053
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: we doing this ship tonight? That's this ladies in here tonight,

1054
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: and you know he'll he'll put the song in. I mean,

1055
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: when me and this dude is performing, it's like a

1056
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: comedy sketch up there because he's drunk. I'm drunk. We

1057
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: were just but it's it's we functional alcoholics. You know,

1058
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: we're not the alcoholics that go up there and messed

1059
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: the whole show up. We actually look forward to getting

1060
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: drunk before the show. I can't do that. He's sitting

1061
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: in the We're sitting in the background, we're sitting in

1062
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: the dressing room. Just he might have his his voca

1063
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: or any whatever we want to drink for the night.

1064
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm the hip hop, the hip hop nerd.

1065
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: I guess when he comes. Gotta, I gotta, I gotta.

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00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just narrow that down to hip hop. Okay,

1067
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: I gotta. I gotta have a drink before the show.

1068
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: I gotta. I need something that's going on whine me

1069
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: so I could go up on stage and and be

1070
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: this dude, I'm about to become sober. It's just fun.

1071
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it takes over me if that happens.

1072
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: If I'm a little tipsy or whatever, I'm not in

1073
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: full control and I want to get my high. Is

1074
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: that crowd screaming? I want to get that. I want

1075
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: to stay sober through it all. I can't do it

1076
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: like after the show. Sure, I'm fine with whatever, but beforehand,

1077
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: because I've had that happen like once or twice where

1078
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I probably had a little bit too much before I

1079
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: went on, and I'm like, yea, what the hell? And

1080
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: I know I'm not in control right now. This is

1081
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: not cool, but you you said it right. It's the

1082
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: it's the energy of the crowd. And but that's what

1083
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm working on. So when I'm on stage, I want

1084
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: them to understand that. Look, man, I'm coming to perform.

1085
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. We're gonna vibe out like it's

1086
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: like you gotta couch on the stage. I'm talking to

1087
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: the crowd. I can look all the way in the back.

1088
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm pointing out things that they probably don't even know. Yo,

1089
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: you've been recording, like the last three songs. You try

1090
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: and get your subscribers up, like come on, man, cut

1091
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: the camera. Wait what phone you got that last that long?

1092
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: You know, you do certain things to the crowd that

1093
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: they go, Yo, he's spotting everything. So he's performing, but

1094
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: he's looking at everything he's in the room. And then

1095
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta I gotta make my my my

1096
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: my disclaimer when I get up on stage. Yeah, man,

1097
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: all y'all FONZI motherfucker's that think y'all too cool? The

1098
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: party go to the fucking back. Let people who want party.

1099
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't need you fucking grilling me while I'm performing. Man,

1100
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, crush your arms. Yeah, just be too cool,

1101
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: like you know you're killing it and you know he's

1102
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: killing it. Oh my god, I gotta date with the

1103
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: Hooper triplets after Yeah, so I make the disclaimer. They go, oh, ship,

1104
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: he's on some other ship. You know. I ain't coming

1105
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: here to face you for y'all a face fuck me

1106
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: the whole motherfucking show, you know. Yeah, I want to

1107
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: go in there. I want to do the show. I

1108
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: want to have fun. I want you all the party

1109
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: because you why would you pay your money to come

1110
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: to just grill somebody? Like what is that? You know?

1111
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: But that was our mentality back then. Remember our generation

1112
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: was the ice grilled generation. Everybody had to be hard,

1113
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: mean looking, and now this generation was like, that's too intense.

1114
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: We're just gonna do whatever the funk we want to do.

1115
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna do goofy dances, not make any sense when

1116
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: we run, but we're having fun. That's the only thing

1117
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: I admire about this younger generations that they having a

1118
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: good time with it. But when you've seen certain artists

1119
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: present that energy. That's what made the show. Just to

1120
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: see run DMC. I'm gonna say, run DMC. Right, you

1121
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: see them perform, you be like god damn. You know

1122
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: a certain artists that I've seen just have used to

1123
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: do that have Let's say cariss One. If you ever

1124
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: been one show he do three hours. Man. I've seen

1125
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: him throw tennis tennis balls out, thro the tennis balls

1126
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: out and put him up in the you are holding

1127
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: the world in your hands, and I'm like, yo, this anybody, man,

1128
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: he would just destroy He's the one who taught me

1129
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: how to do met least right because people go on

1130
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: stage and they do one song, stopped, crowd clap, do

1131
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: another song, stop the crowd clap. No. He taught me

1132
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: how he would go from one song to another song

1133
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: to another song like he yeah man, and would destroy it.

1134
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: That was the best thing I think I loved about

1135
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: the eighties and the nineties because if you performed and

1136
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: you sound like your record, that was the ship. I

1137
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: hate when I go to a show now and it's

1138
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: like your your your favorite MC's on stage and his

1139
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: fucking man's sang the punchline for him, you know, or

1140
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: or the days when they come on with twenty dudes

1141
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: on stage, and I'm like, Okay, where's my where's my rapper?

1142
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: Where's the guy I came to see? Who are you guys? Like,

1143
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it right, I've seen the perfect

1144
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: The perfect group that would do that was Um leaders

1145
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: of the New School, like you got certain, yeah, but

1146
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: they would. They would do the ad libs around whoever

1147
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: was rapping, and it felt right, you know, because the

1148
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: harmon was right right. But that's what he did on

1149
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: the record anyway, right, they did it that same way.

1150
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: So he's talking about the dudes that go up on

1151
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: stage be all out of tune, all out of key

1152
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: and shouting the ad libs, and they sounded louder than

1153
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: the artists. I get what he's saying. Yeah, they're angry

1154
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: fucking hood friend that they brought with him. You're gonna

1155
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: take you on the road with me? I could do

1156
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: be on stage with me, you know, like all right,

1157
01:01:52,040 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: it's being ready to die and you whatever the deal is,

1158
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: it's annoying and ship because I would get that, and

1159
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: then I love rock him but live when he decides

1160
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: to do it live and he can sound like himself.

1161
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: But then sometimes he just turns the mic on the crowd. Yeah,

1162
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: he does it differently now and now everybody wants to

1163
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: hear his voice voice. But it's funny as you say that,

1164
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: and I agree and I love I don't only take

1165
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: no offense. Crowd wants to say it too, Yeah, and

1166
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: that's why he lets them do it. M but not

1167
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: most of the song. I get the call and response.

1168
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't want I paid to hear you, not them right. Nah,

1169
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: but uh, that tactic used to work for me. Like

1170
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: if I forget the lyrics, that happened, No, I get

1171
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: that's the perfect room. The minute I forget the lyrics,

1172
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm this dude like an audience. Y'all sing it right

1173
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: because I'm Yeah, that part I gotta do. I've definitely

1174
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: nd stand. Check us out. Okay, go my favorite one

1175
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: for you say at home? Do you have another? I

1176
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: just doubt remember at my fortieth birthday when you and

1177
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Greg were performing, I had a Philly blunt in my pocket. Yeah,

1178
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: and I left my Philly at home. Do you have

1179
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: another one? Here you go? Yeah? He just looked at

1180
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: me like he's stupid as ship as it was dope. Man,

1181
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: that was dope. This was fun guys. Hey, I hope

1182
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed this episode of Culturally canceled Um. If

1183
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: you're looking to see me live, you can go to

1184
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: Russell Peters dot com and check out my tour dates.

1185
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: I got some shows coming up. I got I got

1186
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: shows coming up in New Jersey at the Stress Factory,

1187
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: but unfortunately that's sold out, really unfortunate for you, very

1188
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: fortunate for me. But otherwise checking out. Dates are popping

1189
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: up there. The numbers are going up with sales not

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01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: to COVID, so come and check me out and a