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Speaker 1: He's on the line Old Friend. I'm gonna call him

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Speaker 1: Old Frank because we have done some motivation together with

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Speaker 1: some young people and he's been at the forefront a

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Speaker 1: because catching a seat early, you know, you see a

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Speaker 1: That's what he does. My next guest is one of

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Speaker 1: the top educators. He is a top motivational speaker and

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Speaker 1: now a daytime TV host. New show call break Through

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Speaker 1: with Dr Perry, a new daytime syndication talk show from

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Speaker 1: CBS Television Distribution starring my man Dr Steve Perry and

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Speaker 1: respected educating and advocate Best known for creating educational opportunities

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Speaker 1: for children. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Dr Steve Perry.

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Speaker 1: My main man, How you man? How you mad? It's

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Speaker 1: wild to talk to you when we ain't both sweat

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Speaker 1: and burning up like living comfortably? Oh man? First of all,

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Speaker 1: I saw the promo. I didn't even know about the show. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I do the doctor. You know. And when you see

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Speaker 1: know how long we've talked about people are different. Networks

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Speaker 1: have have have sat down what you said, you had

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Speaker 1: tell us about their journey. They We're gonna go back

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Speaker 1: to our history together to let everybody know this is

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Speaker 1: not an individual who just got a shot. You've nurtured

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Speaker 1: this through your your craft, through your education, through your

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Speaker 1: hard work. But tell us how did this show, Tip

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Speaker 1: talk show come about? Well, it's CBS reached out. Um,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. You're listening to money making conversations. UH, very

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Speaker 1: He's one of the most sought after educators in America,

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Speaker 1: He's he's chrismatic and compelling force. Is truly, truly and inspiration.

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