WEBVTT - Tim Scott… Baby Please! 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.800 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:05.320 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:07.800 What's Up? 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:08.119 What's Up? 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:08.479 What's up? 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:09.000 Everybody? 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:13.120 This is Andrew Gillum coming to you with not the second, 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:20.240 but the third episode of Native Land Pod, where we 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:21.840 break it all down for you. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:22.920 What's happening in. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.880 Politics, a little bit of what's happening in culture, but 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.400 not too much of either. And the beauty of today 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.000 is I get to do it with two of my 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:38.479 favorite favorite people, Tiffany Cross and Miss Angelo Rod. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:39.240 What's up, ladies? 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:44.520 Hey everybody, welcome with you number three, Welcome home. Can 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.320 I just say really quickly before we get started, I 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.479 want to give a shout out to the Gathering Spot. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.880 I'm broadcasting to you, guys, life from a gathering spot, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.720 black owned business, and so just shout out to them 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.120 for being a partner and host of Native lamppod. So 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.760 what up Gathering Spot? Shout out to the gathering. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.120 Thank you Gathering Spot for sharing some space with us. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.000 It's only a tiny bit of space because Tiffany's so 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:07.959 fun sized. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.039 The disrespect for the petits out here, well, I tell 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:14.399 you that you. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:22.960 Let me find out fun size, like yeahful, I'm sorry, Tiffany, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.920 let me know I need to go ahead and withdraw 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:26.640 my offense if there's. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:33.040 An I'm vertically challenged. Sobody my secret. I'm five to two, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.280 but my attitude six months and don't try it all 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.000 right exactly? How about that. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:43.480 I also have a slight confession, which is, y'all, I 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.880 have some or surgery in the past couple of days. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.760 And so if you are looking at this or even listening, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.080 you hear me, you know, mess up a word, a 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.919 little kerfuffle here or there. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.200 Just give me a little bit of grace today. I'm trying. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.000 We're pushing and. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.440 Brother, because if it would have been me, I would 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.240 have been under bed somewhere. Y'all would have to come 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:05.560 get me. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.600 Please believe the Metzure in full effect today, Yeah and fullfect. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.679 Thank you for showing up though while you're still a 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:18.720 little bit under the weather because I've had only episode three, y'all, yeah, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:19.480 you kind of can't. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.760 We might have came to your house to come get you, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.600 or or all the listeners who we should probably think 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.800 the people have been listening, they have been reviewing the podcast. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.040 We are so grateful that you're tuning in. But Andrew 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.960 on episode three, they definitely would have run to your 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.880 house and been like, where you at, Gillam come through. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:38.560 So we're grateful for that care. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.799 You're basically saying the center of our listening universe is 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:42.840 based here in Tallahassee. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.799 Yes, yeah, no, I think that there are planes, trains 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.600 and automobiles though, So that's the thing. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.880 There it is, y'all, There it is. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.120 We have an exciting show for you all today, as 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.320 I said in the intro, a little bit of news, 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.560 a little bit of the culture, but not too much 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.040 of either of them. We're getting right to the news, ladies. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.640 And I gotta say this because I remember doing this 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.480 public speaking event and I and I greeted folks as 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.400 ladies and gentlemen, and this one woman and two of 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.919 her friends afterwards came up to me to say, we 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.880 are not ladies, we are women. And she then gave 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.720 me a whole thing about the difference. And so just 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.560 know that I know the difference, but I know my 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:25.160 two colleagues. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.440 Can you tell me I'm not I would like to know. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.160 You know, Cicely Tyson used to draft people saying ladies. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.760 Created with a dainty, you know, particular way of being 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:45.920 a trophy established upon women by men, more of a 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.960 sort of status and social daintiness than it had to 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.760 do with gender. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.400 I don't mind. You can. If you look like me, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.400 you can call me girl. If you don't look like me, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:57.040 don't call me. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.040 Don't call me hip who I'm with you on that. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.880 And we're gonna talk about baby later. We're gonna talk 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:03.360 about that. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.640 Yes, later, we're gonna get it at. We're gonna get 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.640 it at anyway, Andrew, are you trying to get us 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.600 to New Hampshire? I think, my brother I am trying 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.960 to get us to New Hampton already. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.280 I know, I know, but we can take our time 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:16.120 getting there. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.839 In fact, we're gonna spend a long time in New 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.200 Hampshire because by now, I'm sure all of you all 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.400 know what happened this Earlier this week, New Hampshire held 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:32.040 the primary that Angela. I think people projected to have 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.640 a lower than what actually performed turnout on behalf of 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.400 the Republicans. I don't know what you make of that, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.320 but essentially we had what was record turnout in New 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:48.880 Hampshire for this primary election, and the all able King 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.000 Donald Trump appeared to have prevailed that I get the 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:52.719 news right on that. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:53.440 Yeah. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.040 I think what was really fascinating is think I thought 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.000 a lot of people would you know, kind of stick 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.960 that one out. They had more than three hundred thousand 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.680 voters show up to participate in the New Hampshire primary, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.479 outpacing their performance which was their original high mark in 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.279 twenty sixteen. So it is fascinating to see folks come 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.080 through and, as Tiffany would say. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.000 Vote for their king. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:17.080 Yeah. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.200 Can I say though, this is my big problem with 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.599 New Hampshire. All right? First of all the issues that 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.960 they voted on their top four issues, it was the economy, immigration, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.560 foreign policy, and abortion. Okay, so those were the top 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.640 four issues. And then you saw a reporter after reporter 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.000 talking to voters and they would ask, why are you 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.400 voting for Donald Trump? And the random voter would say, oh, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.960 well his policy aligns with mine. Now did these reporters 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.200 say really what policy specifically? 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:47.599 No? 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.279 Or they say well my life was better under Donald Trump? 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:50.599 Really? 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.400 How So they just put these sound bites out there 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.719 like it's truth, and they would never challenge any of 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.320 these folks on any of these things. And that to 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.800 me is so that's what I want to hear what 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.280 policies specifically align with you, and I'll keep saying this 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.920 until the media gets it right. Never once was anybody asked, well, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.880 what do you make of his racism? What do you 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.400 make of his misogyny? What do you make of his xenophobia? 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.359 What do you make of the ninety one indictments. It 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.520 was just let's pretend none of this has happened, and 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.800 we're going to treat this like everything about this man 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.080 is normal, when nothing is normal and democracy is on 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.040 the line. This has been my big drum that media 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:32.720 influences policy influences elections, and both are failing right now. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:39.719 I kept hearing about immigration, immigration, immigration, immigration. Can somebody 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.440 just put into context for me? Is what is the 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.960 immigration issue in New Hampshire? 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:46.000 Like? 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:53.600 What is it the Canadians dangerous? 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.440 What is it that makes look? 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.640 I mean I think the reality of it is people 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.760 are mad. Yeah, I think people when they say immigration, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.560 I think what it is is people are mad that 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.480 the brown people crossing the border. Because most of these 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.960 voters likely watch something you know, like o In or 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.920 Fox News. They have it on a twenty four hour 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.600 doom loop in their home and all they can see 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.880 is my life is so shitty because all of these 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.640 people keep coming in taking resources from me. This is 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.440 the reason why I don't live in a bigger house 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.440 because of these people. This is the reason why my 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.640 kid can't get a job when they graduate college because 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.040 of these people. There is no immigration issue in New Hampshire, 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.320 certainly not one that should be driving your interest at 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.240 the ballot box. So I call bs on that it 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.200 is racism under a different name, MASSES policy, and we 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.840 see you, We know the truth. You know the thing. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.200 I'm curious to know. What was the last time you 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:47.000 were in New Hampshire? 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:54.040 Just the first of Nebruary. Actually, so hasn't happened. I 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.680 don't think I've ever I ain't never had a connecting 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.520 flight through New Hampshire. I never passed through to go 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.640 somewhere else, you know, I just I really haven't. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:03.840 What about you. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.520 The last time I was in New Hampshire was in 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.200 twenty twenty. Andrew and I a Bols fellows of diop 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.040 at Harvard and we did an event in New Hampshire. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.600 And so that was what four years ago? 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.480 Yeah at least, and mine was I mean about four 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.040 years ago. And it was a really quick, quick, quick, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.000 quick stint quick stint in there. The reason why I ask, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:30.760 y'all is because New Hampshire hearkens back to a comment 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.280 that you made, Tiff. I think the last episode and 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.720 maybe even the one before that, when we talked about 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.679 who shows up in these products. Right now, Angela did 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.160 a great credit by talking about three hundred thousand more people, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.640 and of course we salute, you know, more participation. But 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.400 if I'm not mistaken, we're talking about the state that 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.240 is pretty much a monolist. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.600 Ninety four percent white. I was just pulling it up. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.160 I found ninety two point six TIFs need to be 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.520 on Jeopardy. That's good, Tiff. Ninety two points is what 0:08:58.559 --> 0:08:59.680 I just pulled up Therety is. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.240 And that that's not to say that people who look 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.640 and sound and are from and all this kind of thing, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.680 same upbringing, same issues, own as one or the other. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.400 Doesn't matter. It matters. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.520 But the interesting thing that I found about the New 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:19.400 Hampshire primary was the fact that self identified liberal or 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:25.120 rather self identified moderates and self identified independence tend to 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:31.439 coalesce around Nicky Haley, whereas everybody else who was pretty 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.440 much identified as just a Republican got behind Donald Trump. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.800 So Donald Trump got to see the coalescing of Republicans 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.600 behind him. But this really interesting gap opened up, y'all. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.400 And I wonder if you take anything from this that 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:51.640 independence and no party affiliates who leaned more right, many 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.120 of us said that under no circumstances will they vote 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.280 for Donald Trump. That group got behind NICKI Haley to 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.520 the degree of I don't know for or so of 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.720 them voted for her. Do you think this signals anything 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.600 in the long term to be problematic for Donald Trump? 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.480 Yeah, I mean yeah, I think that the thing that 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.080 we're seeing is there is a real divide in the 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.960 Republican Party in terms of what they want out Like 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:22.320 we know that Donald Trump is absolutely what the Republican 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.960 Party has been building for many years. But I think 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.760 that there are some folks, maybe the Karl Roves, the 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.080 folks who were associated with HW and W. Bush, who 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.400 don't want it to be this outward like this blatantly racist. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.840 I would imagine the Condoleeza Rices even of the world, 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.440 wouldn't want it this bad. Clarence don't care, y'all, see 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.120 that Clarence does not care as long as you take 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.920 them on a trippy good but the rest of them right, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.400 there's there may be some pause, I think with What 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.560 is interesting is Nikki Hayley being from the state of 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:58.559 South Carolina and then having a senator who she appointed. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.360 Somebody's the Tim Scott, but not mine. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:07.480 Still, despite being appointed by her originally being from the 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.440 same state, said it is now time for me to 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.640 indorse Donald Trump. Of course, we know he'd already dropped 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.880 out of the presidential election, but New Hampshire had a 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.200 solid one hundred and seventy seven votes. I don't mean thousand, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.120 I mean one hundred and seventy seven votes for Tim Scott, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.600 and Tim Scott took it upon himself this weekend to 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:32.240 not endorse his fellow statesman stateswoman south from South Carolina, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.040 but to endorse Donald J. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:34.680 Trump. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.880 I would love for us to roll the clip. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:44.480 Thank you. They were saying, we need a president who 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.320 will close our southern border today. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:55.280 We need a president who understands the American people are. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.560 Sick and tired of being sick and tired. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.800 Really, he was having church with all them white folks 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.400 who who on Insurrection Day he would have I'm not 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.120 even gonna go there y'all know what would have happened 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.200 to Tim Scott if they didn't recognize him on Insurrection Day. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.160 The point is he burned and said, to hell with 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.120 loyalty to this person who he's from the same state, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.840 who arguably share some of the sentiment he might share 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.000 around the Confederacy remove statute. I'm not a Nikki Haley 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.240 fan who at least some parts of the day, they 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.880 both recognize that racism is a thing, even if it 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.720 only happened to them and nobody else. But it's very 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.120 bizarre to me that that was the approach that he took, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.200 and not only did he well, I want you guys 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.439 to talk about what you think about how he referenced 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:46.199 Fanny lou Hamer. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.840 Yeah, I was gonna say that. I think that's the 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.760 most offensive part because I'm probably most of the audience 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.679 couldn't even you know, name that that quote came from 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.800 Fanny lou Hamer and she stood for the complete opposite 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.800 of what Tim Scott, Senator got. Tim Scott says, and 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.360 Tim Scott has often said that he went from cotton 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.559 to Congress, which you know, he's gone from cotton to 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.600 Congress to clown. It's just embarrassing to watch this guy. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.679 But I will say, angel I kind of disagree with 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.680 you when you say it's not a problem for or 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.400 that Donald Trump should be worried about this gap with 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.560 I and Nikki Haley. I actually don't think he is worried. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.080 I think he's a bully who loves to pick on her, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.840 and I think he mathematically it doesn't show to be 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.320 a big problem for him. He is the front runner, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.240 he will likely be the GOP nominee. And to watch 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.120 people who say they would never vote from just months ago, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.280 I'm not talking about twenty twenty. Just months ago, people 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.360 say I will never vote for this man, they have 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.880 criticized him, and to watch them, one after another line 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.200 up behind this man is disgusting. To see a black 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.080 man do this is even more disgusting. I don't know 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.200 what Tim Scott is aiming to do. When you say 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.960 he dropped his presidential race, legit, I forgot the man 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.320 was running. I want to insert that Oprah meme and 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.320 say did you drop or were you dropped? Because nobody 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.120 was paying attention to his campaign. And I think a 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.440 lot of these people who launch these campaigns they're really 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.200 angling for a position in Donald Trump's cabinet were he 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.400 to be reelected and have no real policy agenda or anything. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.760 They are loyal to power. I really quit, Andrew. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.800 I want to hear what you got to say, but 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.960 I wanted to just clarify one point. The point that 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.160 I was trying to make is for someone who's supposed 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.320 to be like their guy one hundred grand, he is 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.320 still barely clearing half fifty percent. He should be in 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.360 a primary in the seventy percent out eighty like he 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.880 should be killing it. He's not killing it. And that 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.840 is the part where I think it's a flag. Do 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.560 we think that that his arrogant self is concerned about anything? No, anyway, 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:43.800 I want to hear you, Andrew, but I just wanted 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:44.720 to clarify that one point. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.360 No, No, that that's fair, And I actually tend to 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.920 agree with you that. First of all, as the former 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.040 president of the United States, such an embarrassing time for 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.720 the country that he wouldn't have an opponent if he 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.640 were as a former president running for the nomination of 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.520 his party again, So the fact that he's only pulling 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:09.040 half of the Republican Party should seem a little problematic 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:09.400 to him. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.640 But it won't. On the Tim Scott thing Man. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.200 There is a particular disdain that he has for her, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.880 and I just think it's more than what meets the eye. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:24.440 Probably not worth our time in consideration, but I'm just 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.520 curious to know what that they're there is as it 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.760 relates to them. I do think for the Republican primary, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.120 Trump not having the independence and moderates behind him is 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.160 probably nothing. He'll get the nomination, but I think in 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.480 the general election this thing is gonna rear his head again, 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.840 and this is probably where you're going to see Biden 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.240 and Harris try to come up the center. We're gonna 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.960 be scratching our head at some of the advertisements that happen, 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.880 I think later on in the campaign. But when we 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.360 do scratch our head, let's just double back to this moment, 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.080 to this conversation, and we start to think about, well, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.920 who are they trying to get? Who are we trying 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.440 to bring to our side? And I think it's gonna 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.440 make a lot more sense some of the tactical moves 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.440 that you see the Democrats in this campaign take later 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.880 in the cycle. But I said to the audience on 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:25.640 episode one, the reason why these primaries mattered is because 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.200 this is when the fields starts to widow. It has 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:35.239 been whittling down ever since and just before that primary. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:36.840 And I think this thing is about to be over 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.480 and probably a shoe a few short weeks, if not sooner. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.200 You're talking about doubling down. Tim Scott doubled down after, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.720 of course, Donald Trump proclaimed victory. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:49.280 Last night. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.760 Donald Trump had a lot to say about why he's 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.640 abandoning Nikki Haley in this way, and we get to 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.160 hear what Tim Scott's response was, did. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:04.000 You ever think that she actually appointed you, Tim, and 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.359 think of it appointed and you're the senator of his 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:15.760 state and she endorsed me. You must really hate her. No, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.200 it's uh, it's a shame. It's a share. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.240 Oh, I just love you. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:22.320 No, that's good. 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.240 That's why he's a great politician. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:32.280 Lord man, I do not even claim him. So I 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.600 am not embarrassed. You know, it is what it is. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.280 The line, the line is shorter. We should roll on 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.520 because he about to get rolled over. The problem is 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.639 he didn't did all this stuff. He didn't propose to 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.000 this woman that he probably don't know that well. He 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.119 has thrown the governor or the former governor who actually 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.399 appointed him under the bus and and the found that 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.359 people said the lady is a scammer and was a 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.360 scammer with her and with her ex husband. But he's 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.719 doing all that, you know why he wants to be 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.080 the v P. And he about to speak. He's on 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.199 a fat phone mission. We can't cuss no more. But 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.119 y'all look up what a fat phone mission is. That 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:07.880 is what Tim Scott is on. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:13.240 We can well, I just love you go ahead, sip, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:14.320 and then we'll roll through it. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.439 Well, I just because you brought up the general, and 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.320 I think that's where they're like, we know what the 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.119 general is gonna look like. You know, people as crappy 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.120 a year as twenty twenty was, people are like, let's 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.480 do that again. So if we're looking at Donald Trump 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:32.400 and versus Joe Biden, I want to shift the subject 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.119 a bit to talk about the political advertisement, the political 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.600 advertisements that you brought up, Andrew, because we have seen 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.920 this act before and what we have now is an 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.879 outsized influence on our political elections. And what I'm talking 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:50.200 about is artificial intelligence AI is going to wreak havoc 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.520 on elections. I want to just let our listeners and 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.440 our audience members know that. This week, NBC News reported 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.760 that the folks in New Hampshire were receiving robo calls, 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.240 fake robo calls from President Joe Biden discouraging people to 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.560 participate in the New Hampshire primary. This is nothing new. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.679 This has happened in Senate races. When Ron Kirk ran 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.880 for Senate in Texas, there are fake robo calls leading him. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.240 I think when we think about what happens in AI 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.880 and our elections, we are lacking in imagination and how 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.200 dangerous this can be. This year alone, over two billion 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.639 people across the globe will vote and choose their elected representatives. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.520 The fact that AI is going to have this big 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:35.000 influence can influence our elections not only in disinformation, but 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.000 literally in the mechanics of how we elect these leaders. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.840 And I just think the big question we're asking around 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.600 AI is is it sci fi or is it horror? 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.480 And we really don't know at this point, and I 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.359 think we have to make sure that AI is in 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.800 our hands and we are not in its hands. It 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.280 even has a big impact on media, we have to 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.560 remember that AI is neither artificial nor intelligent. They are 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.760 pulling from people, and if the majority of people they're 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.120 pulling from are white folks, then that's going to drive 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.240 a lot of AI. It is not intelligent, so it's 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.080 pulling from the dumbest people, and that's that's going to 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:14.760 recav it as well. Sorry, go ahead, Andrew. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:16.919 No, I was just going to say, I mean, I 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.320 think you're right, you're you're right on the money with 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.280 this one, and I think we should hear a little 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.680 bit one just an example of how how artificial intelligence 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.800 played a role with some of the deep fake robo 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:33.280 calls from Joe Biden. Just this last New Hampshire election 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.280 a few days ago. Let's here, voting this Tuesday only 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.679 enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.720 Again, your vote makes a difference in November, not just Tuesday. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:47.320 Unbelievable. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.000 So if you if you missed what that was, this 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:56.240 was a a robo call being sent into households in 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:02.359 New Hampshire telling voters that while defeating Donald Trump is important, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.320 it's important to do that in November and not for 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.640 them to go and participate in the primaries that were 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:14.200 held this past Tuesday, encouraging people basically to to stay home. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.600 And you all may remember this from from my race, 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.840 and and and and even from some other races that 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.200 took place during the time of robo calls going into 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:26.719 people's homes of the voices of pastors and reverends and 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:31.040 and and and other you know, identifiable African Americans making 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.199 calls basically say hey, don't get fooled. The election is 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.600 not this Tuesday, it's next Tuesday. Stay in line, this 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.080 you know, this sort of thing, so really mimicking the 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.359 types of calls and clarion calls that come from polpits 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.520 and many African American leaders saying hey, if you're in line, 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:50.520 stay in line. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:51.000 That's legit. 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.520 We've often said that, but to confuse the election date, 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.760 saying that it's not the first Tuesday of of of 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.919 of every November, it's gonna be the next Tuesday that 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.520 you're supposed to show up and vote. That can have 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.840 a deleterious effect on the outcome of the election. Where 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:14.280 you consider that not everybody knows when election day always is, 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:19.040 and oftentimes these are going to be voices that seemingly 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:22.920 are of our community, from our community, targeted toward our community, 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.680 except in fact it's not us at all. It's artificial 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.320 intelligence being piped into their into their into their phones. 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:30.879 You know. 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.080 The thing that is scary to me, And I was 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:37.600 trying to listen for something that would indicate that that 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.520 robo call was not him, you know, something that would 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.720 indicate that it was you know, like, what what about 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.879 the cadence of his of his speech? Is there something 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.639 that tips us off that it's not real? And at 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.520 the end of it, plane, I'm like, man, And the 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.359 reason why is because I'm like, why can't I tell 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:55.920 that it's fake? And so you just feel so bad. 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.640 Part of what I'm wrestling with you guys, and I'm 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.240 sure you're dealing with this too. As our parents' age 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.199 is there are so many different kind of scams that 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.720 specifically really target our seniors. Robo calls probably for the 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.919 most part, or targeting seniors. Young people are texting and 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.879 you know, on social and other ways. Although my mom 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:16.920 had shout out to mom and daddy always on Facebook, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.800 but like I literally walked in on my dad probably 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.479 I don't know, maybe six months ago in the summer. 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.760 He's on the phone arguing with someone from Amazon about 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.720 something that he didn't purchase, and They're trying to get 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.200 him to give his debit card number so that they 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.960 could refund him this money. And I was like in 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:41.880 the kitchen and kind of halfway listened. I was like, wait, 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.720 who are you talking to? And he was like Amazon. 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.280 I was like, they don't even call. So I snatched 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:46.840 the phone. I was like, I suggest you hang this 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.720 phone up right now before I call the FEDS on 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.200 that ass. Sorry, daddy, but that's what happened, and he 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.680 knows it, but like literally, And the reason why I'm 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.800 bringing that up is because AI isn't just hurting us 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:02.760 and engaging in voter suppression. It is literally causing our parents, 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:07.160 our elders to like spin excess resources that they don't have. 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.000 It is fraudulent on all fronts, and so of course 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.639 it's going to impact the electro system. So we have 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.239 to be hyper vigilant and super aware. And then we 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.720 have to figure out a way to discern truth from 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.359 a lie, even when it is a voice that we 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:24.200 all know. That's a lot, you know, So anyway, Amazon 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:25.280 stys I want to get. 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.040 Point out really quickly. Yeah, and Angela, I love that 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.880 you brought up the fact that a lot of seniors 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.639 are targeted by this. I also want to point out, 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:32.920 because you said your parents spent a lot of time 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.560 on Facebook, Well, these mega social media companies like Meta, 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.159 like Amazon, like x Twitter or whatever we're calling it 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.040 these days, they have fired a lot of people who 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:47.480 were in position to safeguard some of these AI efforts 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.000 to infiltrate these platforms. Those people have been fired in 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.200 sweeping numbers. We saw this over the years, and nobody 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.320 a lot of people were waving a red flag saying, hey, 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.600 this isn't a good idea, and those positions, as far 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:01.560 as I know, have not been replaced. So that's something 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.400 to think about when you're on social media. Man. 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.400 Well, I just I really hate that they have determined 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:11.399 that it is no longer their responsibility to play in 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:15.280 this space. When they are they have the platforms by 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:19.200 which many of these scams are being perpetuated. You've created 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:24.280 the space, you've created the ring in which the game 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.600 is being played. But somehow you're not responsible for referees, 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.479 you're not responsible for safeguards. You run up, you know, 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.119 against the stand and you break a leg or your 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.800 nose or you this there's no responsibility to be shared whatsoever. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.240 And I got to say, it's a big reflection of 0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:45.800 our regulatory environment, which is really played kid gloves with 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:50.600 a lot of these companies, basically, you know, taking the 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.199 lead shop and saying, well, if we start to regulate 0:25:54.359 --> 0:26:00.080 artificial intelligence, then we're going to stifle creativity, innovation, and 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.879 growth in these sectors. You saw this come to a 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.520 head this past summer doing congressional hearings where the Biden 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.240 administration did get out there and basically say, you know, 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.600 we don't want to put handcuffs on innovation, yet let's 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.080 let it, you know, lead a bit, and then the 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.439 regulation is going to follow. And I just think that 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.800 this is a mistake, and I think we are badly, 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.080 badly misestimating the ways in which this is harmful to 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.440 our democracy and the way that it's going to show 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.800 up this election cycle. And in a race where you're 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.399 talking about the difference between the winner and the loser 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:38.440 being a point represented by a couple of votes every precinct, 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.040 you can start to calculate how very quick fast, and 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:48.119 in a hurry, the other side realizes that we're playing 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.080 in margins, We're not changing whole communities and whole societies. 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:57.959 We're just in the indentations, very very small, unwriteable places 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.800 that are making the big difference here. 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.280 Yeah, I agree with that, all right, And honestly, AI 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.080 is scaring me. I want to I want to move on. 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.119 If we can't exactly sci fi or horror right now, 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:09.959 it feels like horror. 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.880 Well, y'all, we could keep going with this AI thing, 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.680 but I'm getting freaked out, so I think it's time 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:15.240 to pay some bills. 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:16.400 Let's take a break real quick. 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.320 Well, I hate to make it worse for y'all after 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.359 the break, but it's still a little bit of horror. 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:26.680 And gloom and doom. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.440 What did you say earlier, tiff what was the what's 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.040 the gloom doom cycle or something? 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:31.760 Doom loop? 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.320 The doom loop coming up? 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:35.280 That's they're so good. 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.440 If the Democratic Party could hire Tiffany Cross to lead 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.160 them in messaging, they would probably. 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.080 Well, then there's that. Okay. 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:48.000 So here's the thing, though, this is a place where 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.080 I think the Democrats are killing it from a messaging standpoint. 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.479 As you all know, we're just on the other side 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:59.200 of the fifty first anniversary of Roe versus Weight, and 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.800 in twenty twenty two, of course, the Supreme court overturned 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:09.200 Row in the Dobbs decision. However, Kamala Harris, Madame Vice President, 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.359 who we know and I just talked about this last week, 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.639 is fantastic at prosecuting the cases against the thing. I 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.159 wanted it to be against racism, but Kamala showed you 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.760 how to get it done. When she went to Wisconsin 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:27.199 as they face this new bill that's been introduced to 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:31.640 ban abortion after fourteen weeks, there would be an abortion band. 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.600 She took abortion head on. She talked about what was 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.520 at stake with the Wisconsin law, but she also talked 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.120 about what would happen if a national band were to 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.800 make it to President Biden's desk. 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:47.320 In America, freedom is not to be given, It is 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:52.000 not to be bestowed. It is ours by. 0:28:51.920 --> 0:29:01.080 Right, by right, and that includes the freedom to make 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:07.240 decisions about one's own body, not the government telling you 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:08.479 what to do. 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:16.320 This afternoon, in the Wisconsin legislature, extremists will hold a 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.000 hearing on a new bill that would ban abortion in 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:24.360 this state with no exception for rape and incest. And 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.520 in the United States Congress, extremists are trying to pass 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:35.840 a national abortion ban to outlaw abortion in every single state. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.960 But what they need to know is that if Congress 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:47.120 passes a national abortion ban, President Joe Biden will veto it. 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.880 So here's the thing we talked about last week, the 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:57.680 importance of Vice President Harris being on the road kind 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.520 of prosecuting the case against the things. I know that 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.440 people desperately want to hear what the Democratic Party will 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.440 do for them going forward. How have these accomplishments that 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.880 they've made helped people in a really tangible way. But 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.959 the thing that I love about this is this calls 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:18.480 women ladies no matter we're saying, Andrew straight to the 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.600 carpet and reminds them all, particularly the fifty three percent 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.040 of white women who voted for Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.400 where are you going to stand? You want to be 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.960 a single voter issue about life? Do you really want 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.680 the government making these decisions for women? It has been 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.960 too long where the government has put positioned itself to 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.680 make decisions for us and not doing the same thing 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.600 for men. And so I really appreciated her being in 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:48.680 this role, not only fighting against a potential national ban 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.880 if the fifty first anniversary of Row, but also taking 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.240 it straight to the Wisconsin state legislature, and we all 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.480 know that Wisconsin is a battleground state. I thought it 0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:02.600 was super smart tactically, geographic, messaging wise. I just appreciated this. 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.120 I love to hear what y'all thought. 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.520 I thought she did a great job to your point 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:10.360 prosecuting the case. It makes me nervous her messaging there aside, 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.440 she did a great job. I'm passionate about this issue 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.360 for sure. Her messaging aside, though, Angel, it does make 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.080 me nervous if we're trying to appeal to white women 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.600 to show up to help save this country because they 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.680 a white woman outpaced white men in their support for 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.440 Brian Kemp when he ran for governor in twenty sixteen 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.080 in Georgia, and they wrote it for him because he 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.680 was introducing that abortion ban in Georgia that ended up 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:42.320 having potentially having bad economic impact on the state. So look, 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.560 whatever it takes, everybody show up. Her messaging was great, 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.160 But if we got to depend on folks outside of us, 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.480 I'm just not sure that's enough to keep Donald Trump 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.560 from the Oval office. Quite frankly, as scary as that is. 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:02.440 God, I hope you're wrong by every by every measure, 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:07.440 but to to Angela's original point, which is to say 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:11.640 that this was a clear example of the Vice President 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:21.000 going in unleashed, unrehearsed, unchecked, unbothered really by opinions of others, 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.840 but rather getting to the point of saying, look, I'm 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:29.360 so frustrated, but I also feel so free to talk 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.760 about that level of frustration, what drives it, what animated 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.320 her in that moment. It is true, this is the 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.800 kind of of of animated and anger field moment that 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.160 I think we we wanted to hear a little bit 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.680 more of when we were when we were reviewing that 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.840 piece on race that she that she sat down with 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.600 the view on and I just got to say, I 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.280 think part of what gives the Vice President gave her 0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:03.680 license on this issue is the broad based support, appearingly 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:08.200 from white women majority white men in some of these 0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.640 elections that have taken place where it's been essentially a 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.520 vote on whether or not you stand by a woman's 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.920 right to choose or not. And frankly, the motivations may 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.239 have been different for what got them to where they 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.960 are on the issue, but they cast to vote the same, 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.920 which was to say, no government, you don't have a 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.720 seat in this room. We're taking the seat back. Leave 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.160 it between a woman and her doctor. Case after case 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.320 after case where this has been on the ballot and 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:41.160 states both red, blue, and purple. I said both, but 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:45.800 all three everything in between. We still come out on 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.240 the right side of this issue. And I think the 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.520 Vice President felt that license to be able to say, 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.840 it's unfortunate that we still don't yet have that license 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.480 that has been well earned, well established on the issue 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.240 of race in this country, but certainly on this issue, 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.400 I think she felt licensed. To your point, Angela, she 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.560 prosecuted it like a prosecutor. Would she tore it from 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:12.160 you know, to quote boomerang from Ruda to tudor not 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.680 to quote boom y'all ain't gonna get that boomerang reference. 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:17.080 I got it. 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:21.879 Got to coordinate, you know whatever. Anyway, Okay, well there's that. 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.239 I just I just thought we should acknowledge when they 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:31.000 do the things that we're encouraging. And so kudos to y'all. Yes, yeah, yes, 0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:32.840 kudos Vice President. 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:39.920 Thank you for that. All right, lampid tip, that's thank you. 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.560 I just want to thank you. Shout out native lamp pod. Yeah. 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:49.879 Speaking of Wisconsin, we know politics are everywhere, tip everywhere. 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.120 Let's talk about what I know, you love. 0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.400 You know, you're the in house resident expert on sports 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.000 but also entertainment. 0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.840 What's going on? What's going on? Oh yes, thank you? Okay, 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.120 I want to talk about award season because y'all know 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:09.120 I the OSCAR nominations came out this week and there's 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.640 a lot of chatter about it. But I really wanted 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.040 to talk to you guys about award season in general 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:19.000 because there's a diversity problem, as you may have heard 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.040 in Hollywood. So I do want to shout out killers 0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.880 in a flower Moon. Some people liked it, some people didn't. 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.680 But at least there was Indigenous representation at the Oscars, 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:32.080 which is long overdue. Jeffrey Wright and American fiction Sterling K. 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:36.640 Brown and Danielle Brooks for the Color Purple. So I 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.360 love seeing an Api community was nominated. I love seeing 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:46.600 some of the diversity. But Angela, this is my issue. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.080 Oh yes, thank you, thank you. But here's the thing. 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.120 The award shows to me still come across like this 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.080 is white man's land. You know, it is still overwhelmingly 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.799 white people saying do we select you, do we like you? 0:35:58.920 --> 0:35:59.120 Or not? 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.400 From the Oscars, to the Emmys, to the Grammys, and 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.720 I just have stopped putting a lot of credence into 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.160 some of these award shows. And to me, we're celebrating 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.239 the diversity in front of the camera, which is good. 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:16.160 Thirty percent or movies that had a title main character 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.839 black actor went up thirty percent since twenty twenty two. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.280 We like that, but we got to talk about diversity 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.640 behind the camera and a lot if you, I know, 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.360 you probably remembered this, Angela. I think Variety, maybe the 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.480 Hollywood Reporter. Variety did a whole spread on the number 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.080 of black women executives who were leaving some of these 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:36.160 major studios, everybody from Warner Brothers to Discovery, and these 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.200 are people who have power, they have green light power, 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.160 they were leading some of the DEI efforts, and it's 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.160 just shameful. So I don't know what it takes for 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.440 us to build and create our own but I know 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.600 when I see the creativity that exists among black folks 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.000 on social media, I'm like, what would entertainment be without us? 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.040 So I don't know how we fix this. Angela, you're 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.160 in LA. I feel like you have your hand on 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.360 the pulse or finger on the pulse of the community, 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.520 and you said at the intersection of a lot of things, 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.759 including entertainment, politics, policy, all of that. So you're so 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.840 dope and my sister, So I'm really curious your thoughts 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.680 on this because it's frustrating to be mad about it 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.520 and also want to celebrate it at the same time. 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.640 Yeah, I am, you know, thankfully, I don't have my 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:25.720 pulse too much on this community being grooted or groomed 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.400 in politics. For by Congresswiman Water, so I was like, 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.399 for real, La not Hollywood. It's a difference. And then 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.239 also Seattle, so definitely keeping them roots. But I think 0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.319 that what's frustrating to me is there are these incredible 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.200 actors also Coleman Domingo style. 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:41.560 Man. 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.560 Watch him on the carpet, y'all, he is killing it. 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:48.200 But they are every time, like nails it, every time 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.720 they are shining. And Danielle Brooks deserved, I honestly thought 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.240 to Raji deserved and not she killed it as sugar. 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.680 I'm also partial because of everything she's been saying, and 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.400 I want her to get up on the stage except 0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.279 an award and say it again where nobody can run 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.239 from it, and then the other thing, I'll tell you 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.400 that I was really disappointed by TIF. You know, in 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.879 our Girls Chair, we've been talking a lot about how 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:14.000 powerful Origin is. I was so disappointed that there it 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:19.520 was a complete snub, and I would argue, oh, did. 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.879 They That's what I thought they weren't. The film didn't 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:27.600 come out in time. Let's see somebody check me. But 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:29.319 I think that's what the issue was. 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:34.040 It says Ava Duvernet's Origin has been notably shut out 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.280 of the awards circuit this season, not receiving any Golden Globes, 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:42.839 Critics Choice Awards, or SAG Award nominations. Origin had been 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.000 a possible Oscars hopeful, but it was ultimately shut out. 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.880 I don't know if shut out means that she missed 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:48.719 the deadline. 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:50.560 No, they would have said if she missed the deadline. 0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.040 So I take that back. I retract my statement. Why 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.560 do you think she wasn't nominated? I think because she 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.160 didn't need to go through a big studio. 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.000 And I think that right now, you know, big hollyoo 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.279 what wants to make this point that like, in order 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.640 for it to be official, in order for it to 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:09.760 be credible, in order for it to be good enough, 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.960 you need to go through our process. That process rewards 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.759 old traditionally white power structures, the same thing we talk 0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.440 about industry wide, and I think this is no different. 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.279 This is the film that got. 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:25.800 An eight minute standing ovation in Venice, you know what 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.120 I mean, Like, this is like an incredible work where 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.719 when I saw it at the New York premiere there 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.080 was a five minute standing ovation. Like, I just I 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.919 don't understand. I would like to understand what we're talking about, 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:43.200 especially because she pushed to do this herself to get 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.440 the financing from the philanthropic community, from other folks who 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.520 would donate to it, because she knew it needed to 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.040 come out before the election. She knew that democracy was 0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.200 on the line, and so she wanted people to see 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:59.479 where this type of these types of ugly ideologies come from, 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.160 and that's why she put out this film based off 0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.680 of Isabelle Wilkerson's cast. 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:05.879 So I just I don't know. 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:07.880 I don't know what all goes into it, but I 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.200 can tell you every single award season, I'm happy for 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.560 some folks, but really pissed about some other things. And 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.600 this is one of those things that I'm really pissed about. 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.560 Because do we care, you know, like to me if 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:22.239 you get an Oscar nod. Again, we're begging the white 0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.960 man please pay attention to us, Please give us one 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.319 of your awards. I'd rather her see economic success at 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.560 the box office. You know, if there's some kind of 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:33.319 way we can bypass the gatekeepers who rarely allow us 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.640 access to this kind of thing, I'm all for it. 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:40.520 Andrew, what you say, well, I say we should go 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:44.640 where we get love, right, and sometimes those places are 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.200 ones that we create for ourselves, and sometimes that love 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:52.720 comes from places that we didn't necessarily anticipate, which brings 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.720 me to this next topic. 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.759 I knew where you were going. I love this. 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:13.200 Yes, girl, is this topic of when a black woman 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.320 calls me baby? 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:16.480 Yeah? 0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:19.439 There's this video on social media. 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:21.200 Yeah, let's play it. We had to clip. 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:28.799 Okay that that really it touched me because I know 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:34.160 the feeling and I'm certain that it is probably layered 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:35.920 with all this other stuff that we're gonna throw up 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:39.520 on it today. But let's just take it in its 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:40.400 innocent form. 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:42.120 Let's play. Rachel. 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:44.400 I pray to God that this does not come off 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.440 as offensive to anybody, because I mean, that's with the 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.640 utmost love and respect from the bottom of my whole 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.560 entire heart. But when a black woman calls me baby, 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.880 there is so much I what kind of magic are 0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:02.440 you putting in there? Because that shit hits harder than crack. 0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:07.000 I every single time, every encounter in my life that 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.960 I have had with a black woman where she calls 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.600 me baby, I have never felt more loved and supported in. 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:14.440 My entire life. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.680 I feel almost imprinted on, like like are you my mother? 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:20.440 I feel her. 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.040 I know that this is probably feel She conditioned this 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.040 video saying I hope this is not a fan to anybody. 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.600 I hope this is you know, so I think this 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.080 is out of the goodness of her heart. 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.359 But it's true. And for me, it was the. 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.680 Lunch room ladies when I was going like elementary school, 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.200 and it would be like, you know, baby this, or baby, 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.000 you need to put some such and such on there, 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.920 or just the compliment and it ended with a baby, 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.239 or it was a direction and instruction and baby was 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.440 somewhere in there. I just felt like they knew me. 0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.040 They probably did. I was probably one of the bad ay, 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.720 you know, grand babies or something. 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:06.440 But it touches a special place. 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.759 But I've grown up with it, and so I think 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.160 I kind of don't give it the weight and the value, 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:13.759 you know, the. 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:15.120 Way that it pierced this woman. 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.719 It probably it's so normal, it's so baked in the 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.920 cake for me that it doesn't that I don't say 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.480 it enough, But I felt this woman. And when you 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:28.840 consider growing up in a household where you may not 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.880 get that kind of a refrain, I'm just saying, I 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.319 see how in the run of the mid day, when 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.960 this is not your normal, and it happens and it 0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:44.360 pierces you so much so that it stops you in 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.399 your track and you just have to interrogate, my goodness, 0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:49.880 why did this hit me the way that it hit me? 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.400 And why do I feel the way that I feel? 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.120 And I think that there is a long history of 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.279 the role that black women had played in all of 0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:01.680 our lives and in the life of a nation that 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.200 that probably gives a better explanation of it. But in 0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:09.799 addition to having made me laugh, it also pierced me 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.880 because it reminded me of an all too comfortable feeling 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:17.520 that I get when I hear it not in disrespect, 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.520 when I hear it not in condescension, but when I 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.080 hear it in the true love that is I think 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:27.279 being communicated for someone. If this is not your every 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.359 day I get how we can stop you and pause 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:30.880 you in your tracks. 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.319 I said nothing deep, just saying. 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:39.040 Well, Tiff, I don't know if you I can just 0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:43.839 I'm like, y'all, okay, okay, Well I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.719 be breached, so you can close this out breach And 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.960 this is what I want to say. And you know, 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.680 we talk about our arrival onto the shores of this country, 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:58.680 and in my book manuscript, I believe it will stay 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.520 in the book. 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.360 That will have a release date eventually that I'll share. 0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:11.520 I talk about how the experiences of our ancestors reside 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.240 in our dna, you know, for the good, the bad, 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:19.120 the ugly, and the indifferent. And our ancestors who were 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:23.000 stolen from the continent and brought here through the institution 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:28.240 of slavery, participated in something called wet nursing. Wet nursing 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:37.879 is when slave masters relied upon black women to breastfeed 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:42.800 their white children. And so there is this inherent connection 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:47.400 to our community. And we know that we in a 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:51.240 lot of ways shaped culture. There are so many things 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.880 that you know, I believe when we just when we 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.280 say things are such a discerning people, it hits different. 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.319 I do think this video was funny and cute, and yeah, 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.680 it was resonant, but also I would be lying to 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.560 y'all if I didn't say there was something in me 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.920 that was like, oh that kind of cringed and was 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.719 frustrated by it. I'm glad that she shared it. That's 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.280 her truth, but also I'm like, sis, if you only 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.160 knew the history behind this, and yeah, it does something 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.560 different than you. It resonates right with your great great 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.520 grandmother that might have been on the bosom of one 0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.319 of our great great great grandmothers. 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:24.560 Right. 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.759 So I was triggered by that, and I hate to, 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.080 you know, I hate when I'm seeing something on social 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:31.759 and be like, oh, so whack. You know, they didn't 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:33.520 mean it like that, and I know she didn't. But 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.680 I think that we would be remiss if we didn't 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.600 take these opportunities to teach history when we have the 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.520 opportunity to teach history, because they're literally trying to peel 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.760 out these real, very tangible stories out of history books. 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.840 So yeah, I want you to know about wet nursing. 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.400 I want y'all to look it up because it was 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.600 a real thing, tiff issue. You have the floor man, Well, one, 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.400 I was not offended by the video. I don't have 0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.600 the expectation that she would know the history. I think 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.040 kudos to you, Angela, for encouraging her to know the history. 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.920 My challenge with the video is one I felt like, Oh, 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.759 this is sweet and cute and it's warm, and I'm 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:12.040 happy that she had that experience. However, white women sit 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.080 at the right hand of power. Angela brought up the 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.560 slave trade. White women were a lot. 0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.760 They couldn't vote, they couldn't own property in terms of housing, 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.400 but they could own a person. They could participate in 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.920 the buying and selling of the enslaved. And so I 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.879 think we have always had to deep so reach deep 0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.040 down in our humanity to be able to nurse their babies, 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.960 like Angela said, and care for their children while ours 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.800 were kidnapped. But when you look at that through the 0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.319 lens of present day, I just think about the role 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.640 white women play in society, and I believe this woman 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.960 genuinely feels loved when a white when we call you know, 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.359 white people, or call anybody. When when black women say 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:52.680 baby it is a loving term of endearment. However, I 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:57.319 would love for white women to offer something uh in 0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:59.799 the same value. I would love for white women to 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.480 constantly be the people who are calling the police on us. Disproportionately, 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.440 there been forty one white women governors, not a single 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.440 black women governor, and I bet if white women were 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.319 willing to vote for a black women governor, we'd see 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.200 some white women hold four point four percent of CEO 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.000 positions black women point two percent. I bet there'd be 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.560 more if there were white women to support them in 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:22.000 that endeavor. White women far outdue us in the wealth gap, 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.560 and every equal payday, you hear white women all the 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:26.720 time saying, you know, we earn eighty percent on the dollar, 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.640 never acknowledging that that figure is very specific to white women. 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.439 When it comes to black women, api women, indigenous women, 0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.800 those numbers are different. They are the loudest voices against 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:42.040 affirmative action, despite being equal or even greater beneficiaries of 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:47.560 it every time. Mostly they choose race over gender. So 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.960 if you like it when we call you baby, I 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.000 want to tell you we would love it if we 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:58.080 could call you ally wo. We definitely got that with social. 0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:07.120 God name you know what for reminding us of what 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:10.759 it means to have a platform like this, my God, 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.319 to not just take what is the obvious, but to 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:18.680 state what might not be the most obvious and use 0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:22.239 it as a call up, call out, a call up 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.360 to action for folks. And I also still want. 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.600 To say that. 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:34.840 It's okay for those of us who received this, because 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.920 I think both my co hosts received this originally and 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:42.239 it's intended form, which was for joy and lacrity and 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:48.560 and all the fun of it all, that it's okay 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:53.719 to still share joy and fun fielled social media videos 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:56.839 and that this, that and the other. Just know that 0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.600 if it gets called up on this show, that is 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.480 has got to be packing something and be ready to 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.040 rumble with the history and the facts and to know 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:10.080 that it's seated in something, uh something, something greater. But 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.640 you're allowed to have joy to y'all, You're allowed to 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:14.800 have it. 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.040 I would like to vote to name this episode call 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.880 me Baby, I call you l I call me baby, 0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:21.520 Call you l. 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.600 I I like this just like if you killed it. 0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:26.600 Oh my god. 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.799 And off the top of the dome you talking about 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.040 somebody that got bars tiff. 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:31.800 You are in the top five. 0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:37.600 My ge like you killed that man speaking of killing it, Andrew, 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.080 and you know, we want to make sure that we 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.319 keep the table open. You think it's time for Q 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:42.640 and A. 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.400 I do think it's time for some question and answer 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.600 after we pay some bills. 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:58.200 I do, I do. I'm with you, all right, We're back. 0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:59.880 We're back. We're back. As you all know. 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:03.040 So we said from the very very very very beginning 0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.400 that this show was about inviting you into the conversation 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:11.399 and centering the experienses that we have at the center 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.360 fold of the conversation. And so we want to do 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:18.440 that by tossing this on over just listener questions which 0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.200 we're going to hear directly from you. 0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.000 Bless you, bless you, bringing you greetings from the Arc 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.600 of Covenant Ministries. My name is Cecil Ward, and I'm 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.799 posing this question to the Native Land Podcast. In a 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:33.360 world where war is inevitable, our democracy is being threatened. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.960 We even had our own president, President Biden, tell us 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.160 that this time when we vote, our freedom and our 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:43.239 democracy will be on the ballot. While still believing that 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:46.680 the faith based community is still the last frontier of 0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:51.319 spirit led activism in the Earth, aside from knowing that, 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.920 where do you see the faith based community faring in 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.560 the midst of so much disarray, when it looks like 0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.680 everything is subject to change? How to we fear in 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:01.360 the lineup? 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:02.200 Look? 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.600 I think I like this question for a few reasons. One, 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:10.160 so often in the media you hear people talk about evangelicals. 0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.680 It's like the white is silent, you know. Somehow this 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:16.480 group of very right wing extremists have co opted this 0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.800 term as though they represent it. And there was a 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.439 study that came out a few years ago. I don't 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.759 want to misquote it, but a majority of the folks 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:27.040 who identify as evangelical, who the media references, do not 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.359 actually go to a church. They are members of the 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.319 mega church, not a megachurch. And so when we talk 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:36.640 about the role of faith in politics, I think there 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.759 is a reckoning that has to happen in the Black 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.080 church around some of the things that are preaching the pulpit. 0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.400 Not everyone is in church every Sunday. I don't go 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.760 to church every Sunday. Haven't been to church in years. 0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:50.040 I feel very comfortable with that decision. I think some 0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.160 of the policies that are pushed out from the pulpit 0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.720 don't always serve our communities, and a lot of people 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.560 feel unwelcome with some of the messaging that happens in 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.279 the Black church. So I appreciate his point, and I 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.879 think there is certainly always a role for church to play. 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:08.640 It's been a home of organizing in our communities. But 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:10.800 I do think we have to branch out, and I 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:14.359 think instead of inviting folks to come into the church, 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.239 the church might need to go into the community and 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.920 make their efforts known there and make sure that the 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.120 policies they're supporting not only you know, adhere to the 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:27.799 teachings of the Bible that they represent, but make sure 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:31.279 that people feel welcome in the way that I think 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.520 they would say that Jesus would want people to feel welcome. 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.160 Piece and blessings boy R. J. Miller here, y'all love 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:39.319 him the more and Iowa So my biggest thing is 0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.840 how do we get the Democratic Party to work for 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.840 our black and brown brothers and sisters that are that 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.200 are in our local area, you know, on a city 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.160 or local level and on a state level. I would 0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.200 like to know what should we do to improve the 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.759 Democratic Party to make it work for us. Also, I 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:56.480 think you guys should clarify what you guys mean by 0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.520 democracy for our viewers that may not be educated democracy 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.799 because everybody didn't take a Civics classes and everybody go to. 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:07.840 College for I really love his question, and I'm sorry 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.840 this is RJ, and r J. I want to just 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.400 to commend you for sending it in. I'm so encouraged 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.840 by this question because what he's really talking about is 0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:19.200 how to organize on every level and what does accountability 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.680 really really look like. I think that the moment that 0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.000 we believe that we're worthy enough to have a voice 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:28.600 and to have a perspective and that our elected officials 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:32.279 should push an agenda for us, that we have the 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.440 power to persuade them, and then they must act because 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:36.279 we put them there. 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:37.480 So whether you. 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.400 Voted for the person or not, once they are in office, 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.960 they work for you because you are a taxpayer, full stop. 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:46.480 If you voted for them, you have even more leverage. 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:47.560 The way that our. 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.440 System is structured right now, if you've helped to finance 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.040 their campaign, you have even more leverage. 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:52.279 One day. 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.040 I hope that changes, but that is what it is 0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.600 right now. On every single level, there are laws that 0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:03.480 are past ordinances, executive actions, bills that are passed that 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.080 impact our everyday lives. So I think the most important 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:07.839 thing we do we can do is get familiar with 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:11.040 what those things are. Get our top three to five things, 0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.840 and say, I know he brought up voter disenfranchisement. He 0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.680 brought up returning citizens and the importance of them being 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.319 able to have their say. What does it look like 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.479 to ensure that folks always have access to the ballot box? 0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:27.359 What does it mean to democratize that access. When we 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:31.280 talk about democracy, we're talking about a kind of government 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:36.080 that serves the people. One person, one vote, right, doesn't 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:37.759 mean that we make it harder to get to the 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:40.120 ballot box. It doesn't mean that we try to silence you. 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.480 We don't pick up the phone when you call. We 0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:46.360 do politics for the people. That means the people must 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:50.640 instruct the politics. Policy must be people led. We must 0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:53.719 be a compassionate kind of government. We haven't always been 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:55.279 that way. It hasn't been that way. I don't feel 0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:57.479 comfortable saying we it has not always been that way. 0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.560 It now must change. And so I did it once, 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.319 perform and do it again. Shout out to our good 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.279 sister and friend Alicia Garza, who runs the Black Futures Lab. 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.680 They created the Black Census Project. Soon, I think by 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.319 the summer, Black to the Future Action Fund will come 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.279 out with the Black Agenda that will be operational on 0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.200 every single level, starting from the local, local, state, and 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.719 federal government. So hopefully that helps our j We really 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:22.600 appreciate your question. 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.000 All right, next question, Ay podcast. 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:27.080 My name is Brandon. 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.200 I am originally for the Bahamas, became to the US 0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.239 in two thousand and three for college, and recently a 0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.040 few years ago became even a citizen. Got tired of 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:39.759 paying taxes and not being able to vote anyway, Today 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:44.360 I heard some very troubling comments from Charlie Kirk where 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.359 in which he called MLK about a guy and wanted to, 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:50.879 you know, unravel the myth of him, as well as 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.600 talking really harshly about the Civil Rights Act and how 0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:59.480 it reshaped America in a negative way. And so I'm 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.920 really curious some what your all your thoughts are on that, 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:07.920 especially in your last episode relating back to Nikki's comments 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:09.880 regarding America was never a racist country. 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:12.600 Who want to take that? I definitely don't want to 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.600 talk about Charlie Kirk it would be one long be 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.160 if I answered this question, So I talked that with 0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:20.200 somebody else. 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:20.920 Andrew you. 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.280 Well, I don't want to completely dismiss this brother, but 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.960 his question I apreiate appreciate his question. And I think 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:33.000 the point that he made without even asking is he 0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:36.160 was paying taxes without being represented here in the United 0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:41.360 States on the mainland. So I think that is an 0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.600 important point to make. And I look in terms of 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.959 Charlie Kirk, this is somebody who says asks the nine 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.400 Things for the sole purpose of getting attention. So with 0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.400 the utmost respect to his brother for asking this question, 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.800 I would just say we will not lend Native Land 0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:00.800 Pod to address his nonsense. I think it would be 0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.800 disrespectful to our listeners and our audience to even give 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.680 any credence to what he said about doctor Martin Luther 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.080 King Junior. I think most folks who are listening to 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:13.680 this podcast know the role that doctor King played very well. 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.440 And we don't have to ask the question is this 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.200 a racist country? That question has been asked and answered. 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.840 We don't have to ask the question what impact the 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:26.560 civil rights legislation had on the country. We are living 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:28.960 examples of it, and in the words of doctor King, 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:31.840 who said this in an interview with NBC News. I 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.720 want to say, in nineteen sixty four, we have a long, long, 0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:35.920 long way to go. 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:41.240 You know, not giving any credence to mister Kirk, but 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:46.000 simply saying we're not. We need to start making messiahs 0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:52.720 out of men, period. Because doctor King walked the earth 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:56.320 like a man born into it by a mother, raised 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.320 by a mother and a father, cultivated and shaped by 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:06.160 a society, and took extraordinary steps to try to make 0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:10.800 life better where he stood, and we all got to 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:13.600 reap the benefits from it. And shouldn't we all, I think, 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:17.000 except that charge, which is right where we are, to 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:22.080 do our part, whatever that part may be, small, middle large, 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:24.960 to try to make things better where we are. You 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:28.560 did so question her by saying you were done paying 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:31.720 taxes without the full rights of citizenship. Now you have 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:35.040 that right, and now we charge you further to try 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:36.880 to make this whole thing a little bit better for 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.840 those that come behind you. I think that's all any 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.160 of us can be asked to do, and really all 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:43.680 any of us should be should call ourselves to do, 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:45.280 is to try to make it better for those who 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:45.880 come behind us. 0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:46.360 I love it. 0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:50.120 Yeah, I do want to just acknowledge we are especially 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:53.600 not going to get credence to misinformation on this show 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.600 on the other side of the death of Dexter King. 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.160 So the King family's been through so much, so we 1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:05.120 just want to send our condolences to the family, to 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:09.400 Martin the third, to Bernice, to everyone in that family. 1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:11.040 We know that you all have been through so much, 1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:14.880 and we certainly honor the legacy of your true, wonderful 1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:17.360 father and thank you for sharing him with the world. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:19.680 And we're not going to get into this nonsense. So 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:23.080 we'll go to the next question. We got another question, yep, 1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:23.720 last one. 1:00:24.160 --> 1:00:27.440 It's from Tallahassee, so pay attention Reverend doctor Gillim. 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:31.760 Hello Native Land Podcast. My name is Natalie Gamon and 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:34.600 I am in Tallahassee, Florida. I just wanted to say 1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:38.160 that I love the space that you all provide for us. 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:42.960 My question is what steps can the black community take 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:49.080 to correct our self sabotage crabs in a bucket mentality 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:53.880 that has been ingrained in us from slavery. 1:00:54.440 --> 1:00:58.400 Thank you, thank you, thank you, Natalie. 1:00:58.800 --> 1:00:59.960 That's crib y'all, she said. 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:03.200 Tallahassee Florida, And maybe each one of us may want 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:06.000 to just offer, you know, a quick suggestion, and mine 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:08.840 simply would be what we can do to stop it 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:12.000 is not participate in it. So if we all make 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:16.080 the choice to just extract ourselves, when that conversation goes 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:18.120 left in the crabs in the bucket, you're like, oh no, 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.800 that ain't my lane. I'm stepping out, bagging up. That's 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:24.600 a huge contribution. And by no means do I mean 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:27.840 that as a throwaway suggestion. That's a very real suggestion. 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:31.440 It'll stop, it'll stop having life, It'll stop having breath 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:35.280 when we start giving it life and stop giving it breath. 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:38.040 Don't participate. That ain't my lane. 1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:39.480 Yeah, I love it. 1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:41.080 Too. 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:42.760 Shit, I got something on it. I got something on it. 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:48.440 My quick one is I would hesitate at putting this 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.880 crabs in a barrel mentality on us, and I would 1:01:52.000 --> 1:01:55.520 challenge the folks listening, remember who the enemy is. When 1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:57.240 we look at each other, at what you got, what 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:58.800 you got, and what she got, and what I want 1:01:58.840 --> 1:02:02.960 what she got, always remember they got the most. It's 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:08.480 enough for everybody power see nothing without demand. We should 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.440 be looking across the way, not at each other. And 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:14.120 I will say, because I gave this testimony last week, 1:02:14.360 --> 1:02:17.560 I will say, as you all may know, we have 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:21.640 a collective of women all in the space of media. 1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:25.000 I can't, I won't want to name everybody but Angela 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:30.840 joy Sonny Brittany, Alicia Aaron, I'm gonna get in trouble, 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:37.720 Jamel Latasha Brown. Yes, our crew is ten women all 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:40.720 in media. We have never once looked at each other 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:43.880 as competition. And I will tell you all that having 1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:46.360 that kind of sister If you don't have that sisterhood, 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:48.800 go out and create it, Go out and find people, 1:02:49.120 --> 1:02:52.560 because the thing is, when the ground drops from under you, 1:02:52.560 --> 1:02:54.080 you want to be able to look to your right, 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:56.320 and so you're left and have sisters who, if nothing 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.440 else by osmosis, have a collective energy to keep you 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:03.080 from hitting rock bottom. And so don't buy into the 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:05.600 mentality because if you think it exists, then it tends 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:09.440 to perpetuate. Find yourself, be the change, find yourself in 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:12.920 community with each other, and be giving and a blessing 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:14.280 to everybody around you. 1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:17.280 What I was gonna say first is you know, one 1:03:17.320 --> 1:03:22.640 of our awesome Native Land Pod family members asked about 1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:30.680 democracy and today Andrew, watching you struggle through with this wisdom, teething, 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:34.480 hold his mouth and everything he's in pain. I actually 1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:37.200 want to strip the podcast of democracy real quick to it. 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:39.680 Hopefully you'll join me in this. We can be bullies 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:43.640 if we need to. Andrew, I think that you should 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:49.720 consider waiting on sharing your really important story until next 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:51.880 time because I'm watching you struggle. 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:56.760 Look how you owning your mouth right now? Let these 1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:02.760 women I don't want I don't want you to do it. 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.960 Are you gonna be honestly, Andrew? I'm vetoing you. 1:04:06.800 --> 1:04:07.800 I'm not mad at you. 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:10.600 I'm mad because it's pain, pill is kicking off. 1:04:10.960 --> 1:04:13.800 It's too important. What you have to say is too important. 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:16.840 So if you're good with it, I do think we 1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:20.280 should wait because I want people to hear your testimony 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:24.360 and what you survived. And I just I know I 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:28.080 have questions. I know Angela has questions. So yeah, how 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:29.480 you feel about waiting. 1:04:29.800 --> 1:04:30.680 I feel fine. 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:35.720 That just means that this full ninety minutes of an episode, 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:39.480 they're gonna get a They're gonna get sixty minutes of it, yeah, 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:39.920 which is. 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:40.360 What we said. 1:04:40.760 --> 1:04:42.439 You know what, I bet they still get an hour 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:43.520 and a half of it. 1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:46.960 Because now the topics. 1:04:49.400 --> 1:04:50.360 So here's my thing. 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:56.160 You know, it's been really hard to watch what's happening 1:04:56.240 --> 1:05:01.240 in Georgia with the Fulton County DA. We see Fannie 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:05.480 willis being kind of really raked across the calls based 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:10.680 upon her alleged personal decisions and relationship with the special 1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:13.960 prosecutor who she assigned to the Trump case. I believe 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:15.720 we have sound. I would like to roll that sound. 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:18.160 Yeah, we should say there was no proof I think 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:19.480 in the filing. I don't know if we said that 1:05:19.560 --> 1:05:24.760 initially hidden party. At this point there is no proof. 1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:28.400 And what we do need to see is the judge. 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:30.680 Is going to have a hearing on this case, it 1:05:30.760 --> 1:05:33.360 seems in early February, and then. 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:36.520 The judge is going to decide whether or not. 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:39.280 It is proved up. Here's my issue. 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:43.280 I feel like black folks, we know this, like have 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:45.920 to be twice as good. We have to be able 1:05:46.000 --> 1:05:49.800 to hurdle the challenges of guilt in the court of 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:54.720 public opinion. We have to, of course be ethically above reproach. 1:05:54.800 --> 1:05:56.960 As attorneys, I know that as well as an attorney, 1:05:57.720 --> 1:06:00.160 there are all of these bars that we have a 1:06:00.200 --> 1:06:05.680 hurdle and This is such a massive distraction from the 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:08.920 Trump case in all of the many civil and criminal 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:12.800 allegations against him in courts throughout the land, both in 1:06:12.920 --> 1:06:15.919 state and federal court, and so to even have this, 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:19.880 it's been such a massive distraction. It's so frustrating to 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:22.160 watch this happen. But I don't think that we can 1:06:22.200 --> 1:06:24.880 have something called native Lamb power. We talk about the 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:27.400 even our kitchen table issues and not bring this up. 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:29.760 So I know y'all got strong feelings, but this I 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:32.200 just wanted to address it because to me, it feels 1:06:32.200 --> 1:06:33.600 like there's an elephant in the room, and I at 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:35.120 least want us to talk about what it is. But 1:06:35.160 --> 1:06:37.040 we knew Sisters was gonna get dragged once she went 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:37.760 after this man. 1:06:38.800 --> 1:06:42.000 Yeah, that's the thing is like we knew she was 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:45.120 going to face a heavy opposition. And my challenge with 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:49.120 this is the media far too often plays into the 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:52.080 right's hand and then they have to become reactive to it. 1:06:52.480 --> 1:06:55.400 This has nothing to do with the evidence in the case. 1:06:55.480 --> 1:06:58.520 And my challenge to the media landscape would be, every 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:02.400 single time you talk about Fannie Willis's personal life, please 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:06.080 immediately follow that up with the recording of Donald Trump 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:11.840 pressuring election officials to find an additional eleven thousand votes. Now, 1:07:11.880 --> 1:07:14.440 all of a sudden, the story has become about her 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:19.040 personal life, and it just seems like it is. It 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:22.560 seems like a red herring. It's irrelevant. It's fine if 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:24.600 they want. That's something that you talk about in chambers 1:07:25.040 --> 1:07:28.200 or whichever. It doesn't take away from the crime that 1:07:28.280 --> 1:07:30.880 he is accused of committing in the state of Georgia, 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:33.920 a state that is at the center of so many 1:07:34.840 --> 1:07:37.080 elections even this year, a state that's on the verge 1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:40.360 of becoming purple. Like that is the more interesting conversation. 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:43.280 That's the more fruitful conversation that will be informative to voters, 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:46.840 not what she was doing personally with a member on 1:07:46.880 --> 1:07:50.760 her team. I find the entire thing distasteful, and as 1:07:50.800 --> 1:07:53.240 y'all know, I didn't even want to talk about it 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:56.720 because I felt like we were, you know, following following 1:07:56.720 --> 1:08:00.160 their red hearing. So I'm ready for everybody to to 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:02.400 move on off this and keep the focus where it 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:02.800 needs to be. 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:06.760 I mean, this triggers me at a whole new level where, 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:12.200 for a lot of reasons and reasons that I'm acquiesced 1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:15.640 to the advice of my colleagues, and so we'll share 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:17.800 more and more of my and unpacked more and more 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:20.920 of my own story, you know, in the coming weeks. 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:24.479 But can somebody point to aside from there being no 1:08:24.560 --> 1:08:30.519 evidence inside this filing by the Trump folks, can somebody 1:08:30.520 --> 1:08:34.479 point me to the evidence in this reco case that 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:38.640 has been falsified by Fining or by any member of 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:42.320 her team. Can somebody underscore for me where the lie 1:08:42.479 --> 1:08:48.479 is inside the charges that have been bought? The evidence 1:08:48.520 --> 1:08:52.520 has been out, a whole cloth made up and furtherance 1:08:52.720 --> 1:08:55.600 of the charges that they've levied against this man. This 1:08:55.680 --> 1:08:59.240 woman has been, along with her team, a more than 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:03.640 superior your prosecutor as it relates to these charges. And 1:09:03.720 --> 1:09:06.920 she knew she would have to be, she along with 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:09.479 her team, would have to be because she was bringing 1:09:09.479 --> 1:09:13.000 a former president of the United States of America to account. 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:17.679 You don't hear the Trump lawyers writing memos and asking 1:09:17.720 --> 1:09:21.160 for special hearings on any of the merits of any 1:09:21.240 --> 1:09:24.200 of this. And I know that it can be frustrating 1:09:24.240 --> 1:09:26.360 for so many of us who say, we know off 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:28.280 jump that we've got to be ten times as better 1:09:28.320 --> 1:09:30.240 and ten times as this and this is that we all, Yes, 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:35.000 it's already baked in, but at some level do we 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:37.920 ever get to be measured for the job that we're 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:38.840 actually up for? 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:39.720 Do we ever? 1:09:40.040 --> 1:09:42.960 Where when's the critique come down on the thing that 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:49.000 I'm applying for, or and proportionality to that thing that 1:09:49.040 --> 1:09:53.559 I'm applying for, or applying my skill set toward, start 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:57.439 undoing my credentials that then no longer stand in furtherance 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:01.720 to the job that I'm doing. We're in here, does 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:05.639 any of that exist at all? This is simply how 1:10:05.640 --> 1:10:09.800 can we come at this woman, degrade this woman, embarrass 1:10:09.880 --> 1:10:18.240 this woman, make her carry shame so that we don't 1:10:18.240 --> 1:10:22.680 have to pay attention to that big, fat ass elephant in. 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:26.400 The middle of the room. I'm sorry for the y'all 1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:27.000 know who get the. 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:32.000 Apology, man, But instead of talking about the big thing 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:36.040 sitting dass center in the room and the weight around 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:39.920 the room is crashing in on it all the walls, 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:43.479 Let's talk about that tree outside across the street down 1:10:43.479 --> 1:10:50.280 the way dropping some fruit that might then drop an 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:54.200 acorn that might roll down the hill and possibly end 1:10:54.280 --> 1:10:57.920 up on the court lawn. Let's talk about that distraction, 1:10:58.800 --> 1:11:01.680 and so God knows. I I know where we have 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:02.400 to take all of. 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:03.040 This For truth. 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:10.439 I am sure that the attorney, her staff team, all 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:15.000 those folks are carrying a heavier weight today than they 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:20.479 were yesterday because of a lot of this. But I 1:11:20.560 --> 1:11:24.640 truly hope that to the extent that we address this 1:11:24.680 --> 1:11:28.320 in the future, that we're coming at it to hopefully 1:11:28.360 --> 1:11:30.400 shed a different type of light on it, and not 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:35.000 to pile on to the gossip arena that these folks 1:11:35.040 --> 1:11:37.680 are kicking up around this thing. The sides show that 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:39.839 they want us to be paying attention to. 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:41.680 Rather the. 1:11:43.680 --> 1:11:49.240 Crazy, unprecedented stuff that it's in its proper place being 1:11:49.400 --> 1:11:53.400 litigated in a court of law. And I'm even embarrassed 1:11:53.400 --> 1:11:55.559 to hear that a judge has to hold a hearing 1:11:57.560 --> 1:12:01.200 taking up the court's time dealing with something like this 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:05.920 when in actuality it bears no weight so far as 1:12:05.960 --> 1:12:09.840 any of us can see, on the actual proceedings itself. 1:12:10.720 --> 1:12:13.439 I would show me the weight that it is bearing 1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:15.880 on that and if there is a if there is 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:20.200 a charge to be bought before the Georgia Bar, then 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:24.439 bring it there. But so far as I'm concerned, I don't, 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:28.240 I don't see it. I think this is this is 1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:32.640 only intended to distract, and God knows, I hope they 1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:34.519 all keep their heads up and do the job that 1:12:34.560 --> 1:12:37.360 they're there to do with no bias on any side 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:40.200 of it, no bias on any side of it, except 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:41.679 with a bias toward the law. 1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:43.560 Do that. I wish that. 1:12:43.960 --> 1:12:45.439 I wish that the same had been done in my 1:12:45.520 --> 1:12:48.519 court case, that the bias had been toward the law 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:52.559 and not around an individual, whether you like them you 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:55.880 hate them, whether you admire their politics or you don't, 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:58.760 whether because of the color of their skin you think 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:04.040 that they are prone to criminal or whether they've actually 1:13:04.080 --> 1:13:05.040 done something criminal. 1:13:06.560 --> 1:13:08.840 And that's the thing too, That's what I wish. 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:10.600 That's what I wish this thing was about. 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:12.880 That's the thing too though, Right like when I take 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:16.200 a step back, if I were in the courtroom with 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.800 the defendant, let's take Donald Trump out of it, this 1:13:18.960 --> 1:13:22.080 is absolutely something that would come up, So that part 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:25.439 is not the distraction. Like you, you do have to 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:28.280 demonstrate any potential bias that could come up in a case. 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:32.520 You should bring that up. I think what is frustrating 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:36.000 to me as a lawyer. I remember being in law 1:13:36.040 --> 1:13:41.559 school and prosecute prosecuting prosecutors' offices trying to petition black 1:13:41.640 --> 1:13:44.320 law students to become prosecutors. 1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:46.760 They had a really hard. 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:49.479 Time getting us to stand on that side of the 1:13:49.560 --> 1:13:51.280 law because we don't want to be with the man. 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:55.160 We have family members who've had evidence planning on them, 1:13:55.360 --> 1:13:58.559 tampered evidence, you taken the money from a case, and. 1:13:59.160 --> 1:13:59.960 Right, we know that. 1:14:00.640 --> 1:14:03.320 And so now there are there's the face of many 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:08.120 black women prosecutors, Kamala Harris, Kim Fox, Marilyn Moseby, and 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:10.960 most of them have been the subject of this kind 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:14.240 of targeting. That's exactly why we don't want to go 1:14:14.280 --> 1:14:16.360 do this. So I understand the side of it where 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:18.160 it's like, yes, this would come up in any course 1:14:18.240 --> 1:14:20.400 case like this is this is something that would be 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:24.160 challenged if she appointed this man because of a personal relationship, 1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:27.840 in any personal priety. I'm saying, if impropriety, then then 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:29.720 that does come up. And to your point, Andrew, yes, 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:33.720 it also does go to the bar. But I want 1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:36.040 us to be very aware of the fact, and we're 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:38.679 all clear about the fact that when black people, black 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:42.400 women choose to become prosecutors, what they have to deal 1:14:42.479 --> 1:14:46.840 with the allegations lodged against them, the ways in which 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:49.880 they have to defend their character, their integrity, and their 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:53.560 ability to stand in the court of law as a prosecutor. 1:14:54.240 --> 1:14:57.240 It's just it's it's it is remarkable, it really really. 1:14:57.520 --> 1:14:59.479 I think made a really good point Angela about the 1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:01.840 role of prosecutors, because that's something that gets sweeped over 1:15:01.880 --> 1:15:06.080 as well. One Black people need to pursue these positions 1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:09.360 because prosecutors decide what charges will be brought, if any 1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:12.160 charges will be brought, So you do serve a role there. 1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:15.840 And again I have to say the media played a role, 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:19.160 a huge role in who gets to be prosecutors as well. 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:22.439 When for the first time, when media started paying outside 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:25.839 attention to police brutality, that is when people paid attention 1:15:25.880 --> 1:15:29.040 to who prosecutors were. When they started paying attention to that, 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:31.960 then you saw the election of Kim Fox in Illinois, 1:15:31.960 --> 1:15:35.120 you saw the election of Marilyn Moseby in Baltimore. You 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:40.280 saw the election of multiple prosecutors of color across the country. 1:15:40.520 --> 1:15:43.840 So just keep in mind these are elected positions. People 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.800 run to be DA's all over the country. This is 1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:49.640 an area where you have a role in democracy. This 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:51.120 is an area where you can say, this is what 1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:54.040 I want my government to look like. And prosecutors play 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:58.160 an outsized role in a very unforgiving criminal justice system 1:15:58.160 --> 1:16:00.479 when it comes to black and brown folks. So that's 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:00.800 all I. 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:01.400 Got to say. 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:05.960 I've also heard rumors, and I've totally blown the gasket 1:16:06.000 --> 1:16:09.360 because I'm past my pain ads and my mouth is 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:11.840 given to me real problems at the moment. But i 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:15.120 just have to say, I've heard rumors on rumors on 1:16:15.240 --> 1:16:20.439 rumors of not just you know, prosecutors in my area 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:23.320 and who they relate to, and who they socialize with 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:28.599 and who they take trips with, and it's so well known, 1:16:29.600 --> 1:16:33.080 you know, in these circles, and I've never in a 1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:39.000 legitimate environment her I think back to again, I will 1:16:39.280 --> 1:16:42.680 deepen into my own story at the right time for 1:16:42.760 --> 1:16:47.840 myself and for our listeners. But I'm looking at the 1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:52.200 local newspapers showing clips of me vacationing with a guy 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:55.599 I'll just say, for the sake of this conversation, Sean, 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:59.120 who I've known and interned with my sophomore year in 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:02.679 high school and have known ever since. At his wedding, 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:04.759 the birth of his kids, so on and so forth 1:17:05.200 --> 1:17:07.720 pictures of he and I being on vacation, as if 1:17:07.760 --> 1:17:13.320 it is somehow nefarious and untoward. Yet colleagues who sat 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:16.200 on the same council who were on vacation with others, 1:17:16.200 --> 1:17:19.439 people who did business to the tune of millions and 1:17:19.520 --> 1:17:23.479 millions of dollars with the city government, not a mention 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:26.960 of them, not a photograph. I'm not a mention out 1:17:26.960 --> 1:17:29.920 of anything. So the fact that when we do something 1:17:29.960 --> 1:17:33.120 that there's got to be something untoward and nefarious associated 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:35.360 with it, and when they're doing it, they're just living, 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:41.559 they're just existing, they're just they're upright and wholesome. And 1:17:41.600 --> 1:17:44.840 I just the double standard that exists there between the 1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:48.200 type of scrutiny between what we do that is commonplace, 1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:51.320 that is every day, that is normal for them, that 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:55.200 we've got to justify and explain and explain a way 1:17:55.400 --> 1:18:01.639 and justify and answer questions about when we're just paying 1:18:01.680 --> 1:18:05.360 our own way, maybe treating this friend to a lunch, 1:18:05.640 --> 1:18:09.519 no one ever interrogates their affordability. And by the way, 1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:12.040 if I'm not mistaken, this question has to do with 1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:15.280 a flight that he may have bought for. Assumes somebody 1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:17.800 he was dating and that person he's dating happens to 1:18:17.800 --> 1:18:21.200 be in a turn. So she trumped up this whole excuse, 1:18:21.280 --> 1:18:24.200 pardon the pun, but Trump made up this whole case 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:27.240 against Trump so she could get a free flight paid 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:29.960 for by the government, a flight she could have bought herself. 1:18:31.320 --> 1:18:35.280 I mean, I just it's incredible to me the Lenks 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:39.040 that we have to go to prove that we are 1:18:39.320 --> 1:18:43.000 just living an everyday experience similar to the ones that 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:44.439 they have every day. 1:18:44.800 --> 1:18:47.400 Yeah, we don't have to set aside forty five minutes 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:50.240 for Andrew's testimony because he has so much and say 1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:52.080 about it, and I have a lot of questions about it. 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:53.760 I know a little bit about it. But Andrew, I 1:18:54.000 --> 1:18:56.240 mean seriously, I have to tell you, people have no 1:18:56.360 --> 1:18:58.759 idea what you went through. So I'm very much looking 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:01.599 forward to you sharing that part of your story because 1:19:01.600 --> 1:19:04.760 I think it highlights the corrupt nature of what can 1:19:04.800 --> 1:19:07.720 happen when power is in the wrong hands. So thank 1:19:07.720 --> 1:19:10.120 you for giving us a teaser there, a little tidbit, 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:12.920 But I'm very much looking forward to that in the 1:19:12.920 --> 1:19:15.120 coming weeks. All Right, when we come back, we're going 1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:17.240 to do a call to action, but we gotta pay 1:19:17.280 --> 1:19:19.400 some bills first. So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:29.360 Welcome back, everybody. It is now time for us to 1:19:29.360 --> 1:19:31.280 do our call to action. As you know, every week 1:19:31.320 --> 1:19:33.639 we will have a call to action for our native 1:19:33.720 --> 1:19:36.880 land pod family. So this week, kicking off the call 1:19:36.880 --> 1:19:39.639 to action, I am going to kick it to my sister, 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:42.439 who I just want to say this. She might get 1:19:42.439 --> 1:19:44.080 mad at me for saying it, but she's wearing her 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:46.439 hair big today and I think it looks so beautiful 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:49.320 when she lets her hair just dry and it looks 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:52.280 big and beautiful and curly and bouncy and healthy. Her 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:54.559 cousin Miya does my hair too, So shout out to 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:57.599 Mia Angela. What's your call to action? Moisturize the hair, 1:19:57.600 --> 1:19:58.360 condition the hair. 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:02.639 I'm gonna I told you that I'm marr. We didn't 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:06.320 actually play his sound, but the New Hampshire GOP. I 1:20:06.360 --> 1:20:09.000 think he's the vice chair. Oh yes, the dreadlocks and 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:11.519 started about right here. And I told Tip this was 1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:13.080 how my ISSH was gonna look when I leave. So 1:20:13.120 --> 1:20:14.000 let me just show y'all. 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:18.559 Look, I'm pretty Darren close. 1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:23.360 But you know, my call to action is one that 1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:26.920 I'm so excited about because you know, a lot of 1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:29.280 times people want to call you out, but the people 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:31.880 who really love you, and I think the listenership that 1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:35.360 we're beginning to build, want to call us in. And 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:39.600 sometimes corrective action can be loving. So there was a 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:42.840 there's some folks in the indigenous community who reached out 1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:45.280 last week and they were worried about filling a race 1:20:45.560 --> 1:20:49.120 with the pod, and I asked them if they'd heard 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:51.760 some of our explanations. Some of them I know we're 1:20:51.760 --> 1:20:53.560 going to release. We have about fifteen minutes of a 1:20:53.600 --> 1:20:56.160 conversation where we talked about what native lamp pod means 1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:56.599 to us. 1:20:57.120 --> 1:20:58.920 And so my first call to action to all. 1:20:58.840 --> 1:21:01.439 Of you is to think about what Native lamppod means 1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:04.639 to you, what it means to have a place where 1:21:04.640 --> 1:21:07.479 you can be home, even if it is virtual for 1:21:07.520 --> 1:21:10.840 an hour or so or so emphasis on or so 1:21:10.960 --> 1:21:13.880 every week. And then the second thing I would do is, 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:16.400 even when you're in conflict with someone, I would like 1:21:16.439 --> 1:21:19.080 for you to take a step back, think about what 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:22.160 it means to communicate your position outside of the lane 1:21:22.160 --> 1:21:25.200 of fear and talk to them from your real perspective. 1:21:25.400 --> 1:21:27.519 You might be afraid of being a race, because that's 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:29.960 all you've ever seen as an individual or as a person. 1:21:30.360 --> 1:21:33.879 But what if that wasn't their intent, what if their desire, 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:36.360 their deepest desire, our deepest desire is for you to 1:21:36.400 --> 1:21:38.439 feel seen and heard, which is indeed the case. 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:40.920 And so shout out to the community who. 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:44.639 Said, we don't necessarily feel seen and heard. And here 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:47.080 are some of the ways that you can invite us 1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:49.200 in make sure that we have a seat at the 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:51.559 table because our seat was stolen when we just offer 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.040 a seat to others. I'm so grateful for that. You 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:56.599 will hear more about that. It will be a surprise 1:21:57.160 --> 1:22:00.160 for next week from some more of that conversation and 1:22:00.160 --> 1:22:02.919 in what we decided as a collective, as a coalition 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:07.240 for how we can ensure Indigenous folks Indian Country and 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:10.040 every other BIPOC community member has a seat at the 1:22:10.120 --> 1:22:12.599 table and always feels welcome home here. 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:15.680 So that's my call to action. I love that. I love, 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:20.040 love love that call to action. As y'all know, Andrew 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:25.559 had surgery and is uh dealing poor poor baby. We're 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:28.120 gonna call I think we should call Andrew baby. Every 1:22:28.200 --> 1:22:29.160 e do it? 1:22:29.200 --> 1:22:33.320 Like, Yes, that's the whole thing about that too. We 1:22:33.360 --> 1:22:35.639 can dive deep boy. 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:42.200 Yes, yes, oh yeah, we could get into Andrew because 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:45.040 we talked politics all the time, and my call to 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:47.320 action has nothing to do with politics. I was going 1:22:47.360 --> 1:22:49.360 to jump in and get my call to action and 1:22:49.439 --> 1:22:51.080 let you close out the show, but I want to 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:54.519 make sure you feel okay to do that. Okay, So 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:56.679 my call to action has nothing to do with politics, 1:22:56.680 --> 1:22:58.880 and I'll be really quick. My call to action is, 1:22:59.040 --> 1:23:03.640 please adopt, don't shop. If you know me, you know 1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:07.120 I love dogs and I see people go to breeders 1:23:07.200 --> 1:23:09.120 all the time and it just breaks my heart because 1:23:09.120 --> 1:23:12.400 pitbulls are my absolute favorite breed. They're the nicest, sweetest dogs. 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:16.000 Don't believe the hype, and tens of thousands are euthanized 1:23:16.080 --> 1:23:19.559 every month in shelters, and so I say, if you 1:23:19.680 --> 1:23:22.559 want to welcome pet into your home, please visit your 1:23:22.600 --> 1:23:27.320 local animal shelter. They are amazing dogs there. You don't 1:23:27.320 --> 1:23:28.920 have to go to a breeder. If you don't want 1:23:28.920 --> 1:23:30.280 to go to a shelter, at least go to a 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:33.439 rescue program if you're looking for a specific breed. But 1:23:33.680 --> 1:23:36.360 dogs are commitments. I mean, these are like two year 1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:38.720 old toddlers who never grow up and it is a 1:23:38.920 --> 1:23:42.759 twelve to fifteen year commitment to care for your fur babies, 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:47.120 so please adopt, don't shop. That's my call to ask 1:23:47.280 --> 1:23:50.560 likes to thank you. 1:23:50.640 --> 1:23:54.080 Mine is very personal this week, y'all, which is get 1:23:54.120 --> 1:23:56.719 your wisdom teeth pulled before you end up forties. 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:05.160 Yeah, use that from its Yes, go to the dentist, 1:24:05.320 --> 1:24:07.280 Go to the dentists. Yeah. 1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:09.240 So, first of all, we just want to thank you all. 1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:12.519 We're starting to get so many more questions and we 1:24:12.640 --> 1:24:14.160 love to bring you all right in. 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:15.880 We say welcome home, and we mean it. 1:24:15.920 --> 1:24:18.000 So please make sure you're submitting your questions to us 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:21.160 on social media. Make sure you send your name and 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:23.320 where you're from at the top of that question, and 1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:25.320 ask us all the real We will try to make 1:24:25.320 --> 1:24:27.120 sure we get to it every week. You can follow 1:24:27.200 --> 1:24:31.080 us at native lamppod. Before we end the show, I 1:24:31.160 --> 1:24:36.200 want to remind everyone to leave us a review and subscribe. 1:24:36.280 --> 1:24:39.280 We did a handy daddy's Dandy social video last week. 1:24:39.320 --> 1:24:41.640 I hope you check it out. 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