WEBVTT - Ep 220: F Dem Kids (Ft. Eboni K. Williams)

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, horror Hive, It's Wheezy. This is for our Atlanta Hive.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to be there next Monday, June seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited. I've never even seen the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to see you there. Enjoy this

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<v Speaker 1>fun as episode with Ebony the Queen Williams. Guess what

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<v Speaker 1>decision we're about to make? Horrible Decisions. Hi guys, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to another episode of Horrible Decisions. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy Be sitting next to Wheezy w TF. Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>love it, y'all. We got a guest today and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super excited that she finally came and joined us. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>with the hold, but in this outfit she's holding couch

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<v Speaker 1>and saving it. We would love to give a warm

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<v Speaker 1>welcome y'all to our guest today, miss Ebony. Kay, will

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<v Speaker 1>you what's up? No, we ain't got to sound effects,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm so excited for you to finally join us.

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<v Speaker 1>Up too long Nowbody tell you to be in Miami fail.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, you know, as far as you're branding.

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<v Speaker 1>When we got the email from Dolly that was like

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<v Speaker 1>every wants to come on the show, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there another Ebany? Really? No, but I've been stalking

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in her d. I was like, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's I guess that's what you think people are

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram right right? For example, I'm always getting books

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<v Speaker 1>and those covers. Wheezy about those books and those covers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, damn, we'll be gonna say, hey

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<v Speaker 1>was she Oh, I'm not gonna y'all send me that

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<v Speaker 1>dryass rundown bitch. I did listen. I did. I did

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, you know, like certain people, we

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<v Speaker 1>still want them to feel comfortable, even though we will

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel uncomfortable. I was like, Okay, well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the way we're gonna go about this so that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to ask Ebony if she eats aster like

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<v Speaker 1>toes which one do you do? You know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to But also, if you had to pick, would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather eat ass or sucktos? Suck toes? Definitely? Really

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't you ain't look Yeah, yeah I don't. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even feel hard to me. Oh yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a like men feeling? I actually haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven trying to think. I would prefer that they're both,

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<v Speaker 1>that they both would be washed. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't presume either the anus the toes are washed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you said man toes man toes is different

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<v Speaker 1>than I will say. You do give hetero, but you

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<v Speaker 1>give me. I made out with a girl in college,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. But also a lot of people told me,

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<v Speaker 1>um that I was giving them power lesbian. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>guys don't get any power lesbian me. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not shout out to the whole LGBT a cute community,

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<v Speaker 1>love y'all. But a lot of people get super powerless bean.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm a strong women. They don't. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's even like it's it's just ameanor like us. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I look like you actually like a relaxed lesbian. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not like a pillow, a pillow princess crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't really care for heads. So I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one who eats everyone in the bed, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's you're a worker baby, Yes, that is actually me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never a pillow princess. I do want to say, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I am, how did you go here? Already about the way,

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<v Speaker 1>already welcome to horrible decision, Welcome to horrible decisions. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say, however, I am a little envious

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<v Speaker 1>of you, um and y'all. Before the camera's cut on,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm so jealous, eany you just look

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<v Speaker 1>like a wife, and I feel weasy to pot like hose,

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<v Speaker 1>even though weey swear she don't really look like oh

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<v Speaker 1>she thinks she little white be material. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>come in and we're like, no, we look like the

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<v Speaker 1>hose and you look like no. No, have either of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all been married? No? No? No, okay, so no no,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna share you. I think I'm older a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit than both of you, So let Auntie give

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<v Speaker 1>y'all some first gyms. I have been brish, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a ring, pop, I did ze ways show shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to ze Way her new Showtime show with Nap. She

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<v Speaker 1>gave us ring pops in her swag bag. I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a ring pop for you, says Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she proposed to me. She proposed with a ring pop

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<v Speaker 1>ring y'all know, but that Kelly Price you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say at age? No, No, I'm Auntie age. We are,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are definitely if y'all don't know about that Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Price he proposed to me. Maybe you weren't in the

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<v Speaker 1>rate Cayden keeping. Oh maybe I can't sing. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do me like that many So anyway, back

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<v Speaker 1>to what wives and what hos look like. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>just relaxed. You ain't guy talking to the mic. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do you have a good boy and look,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it was right quality. Come join us like we got. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's a little different setup. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>briefly married in my late twenties. Uh, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>In and out within a year. I call it my

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<v Speaker 1>starter marriage. This is what I was sure any successful

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<v Speaker 1>marriage requires, I believe from my experience, a lot of sex.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were projecting an aesthetic, ladies, please pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention that says that you are skimmish about sex, prudish

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<v Speaker 1>about sex. You actually are not looking to be a wife.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking to be a oh mate, So just get

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<v Speaker 1>that out of your mind. I think there's a misconception

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<v Speaker 1>at air. I think it's also generational. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're young, you think that like, oh, let

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<v Speaker 1>me look buttoned up and polished and all that ship

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<v Speaker 1>to look wifely. No men want their wives to funk them.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like a part wifely duties. Right, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Don't ever, ever, ever stop having sex

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<v Speaker 1>in your man Okay, So let me ask you then

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<v Speaker 1>why you think. And of course I already had the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation where I believe Steve Harvey ruined dating for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our generation in saying that in order to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen as wife the material or girlfriend material even

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<v Speaker 1>you should hold out and not have sex. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying the complete opposite, and as a woman, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know. I think it's six in one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>half a dozen the other. I think what I got

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<v Speaker 1>from Steve Harvey, and I don't think anybody in here

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<v Speaker 1>like takes advice from Steve hard Let's be clear, um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they don't? I said in here, Yeah, here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we really believe in that. It's not I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe in sex without monogamy. But once I decide

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a monogamous with you, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a double standard. Oh so this is this story. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this was with my expience. We you're my man now,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no, listen, this is a true story. I've

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<v Speaker 1>told this story I think one other time in public.

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<v Speaker 1>But here I don't think youbody heard it. So here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, aeron to go here. Everybody's gonna here right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had been dating maybe two months. We had

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<v Speaker 1>probably gone on six or seven actual dates like dinners,

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<v Speaker 1>knicks games. It was cool, it was a vibe. He

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<v Speaker 1>had money. Okay, So I wasn't sure if there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of physical attraction until date three or four,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we started kissing. I'm like, okay, maybe sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So fast forward to date number seven. I then decided

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<v Speaker 1>that I needed to figure out what the sex was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, because I don't want to fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love with somebody i'm not sexually compatible with, like that

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<v Speaker 1>is a horrific one. So I was like, okay, age,

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<v Speaker 1>not with a hard age. Horrif so we do the deed,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great. Do the deed all right, ebony, legal deed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the legal deed. We executed a deed. No look

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<v Speaker 1>at me trying to do little. We did the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had our little sex capaid um, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was absolutely good, only to get better. Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, I think if the sex starts good, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to only go to great. I've never had a

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<v Speaker 1>sexual experience where we regressed like we always think. Okay, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I have where I started having to tell him the

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<v Speaker 1>sex ain't even good. Clearly, I like you, because your

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<v Speaker 1>sex is not given what it was given, what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>what it was given. Sometimes people get lazy. Women do too.

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<v Speaker 1>I have women do to thing about it, how many

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<v Speaker 1>guy friends we've had, or someone who's should do this

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<v Speaker 1>for me any I mean, I'm not gonna do one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I don't do. I'm people on makeup like I

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<v Speaker 1>used to. Yeah, but I'm not gonna go from licking

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<v Speaker 1>the balls to then saying I'm not gonna lick the

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<v Speaker 1>balls anymore. I think that's false advertising. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in that. Whatever I start in fact, I start at

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<v Speaker 1>a lower quadrant about a game. And then because it's women,

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<v Speaker 1>we expect a game for men. But you're saying your

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<v Speaker 1>first game. I'm not really, I'm not, no, no game.

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<v Speaker 1>Work your way up to that, because so you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even suck the first not the first time

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<v Speaker 1>we sleep together. Now you don't know, go to three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand off the rill, but she's gonna suck. Told them,

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<v Speaker 1>do you expect to get out on the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily. I feel like most guys do that though,

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<v Speaker 1>to like get you to have sex, because we expect

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<v Speaker 1>them to have a game. Back to the story. They's

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<v Speaker 1>a good intermediate questions. Okay, okay, story, so we have sex,

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<v Speaker 1>we fuck you good man? Yeah, okay, now getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and then um, I'm like, so, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever want to do that again, which I

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<v Speaker 1>also enjoyed. Um, he was still like finishing, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was just like really like on one, I was like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we go together period point blank. In the story, we

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<v Speaker 1>go together. We're in exclusive monoguous relationship. Otherwise continue to

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<v Speaker 1>see other people and I can too, but then that

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<v Speaker 1>part of our relationship is not going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the table. And that's how we ended up in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you begin rings. Bitch, damn, I need wait wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait so real quick. I do want to, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they want a monogoruous relationship. Everybody's not looking for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want, I want now, and like we just want

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<v Speaker 1>want to comment. I just also want a wife be

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<v Speaker 1>on the side and a little other whole on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>but commitment, but also like I want commitment, but all

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<v Speaker 1>my babies. But like maybe if I want to suck

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else one day, I could. Okay, Well, people have

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<v Speaker 1>whole marriages like that, your marriages I want, we want

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<v Speaker 1>whole marriages, whole, but whole marriages as well. Hilarious. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you negotiate the terms of your marriage. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we hear about that a lot now in

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood especially. This is going on in bedrooms across America.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just say shout out Smith and Ja Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean exactly that, Smith, And do you ever work

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<v Speaker 1>on prenups I have, which we're not there yet, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess will do it now. Yeah, I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the question, like family, yes, people, have people ever had

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<v Speaker 1>in a prenup something that had to do with sex. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you can put terms in about maintaining the type of

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<v Speaker 1>sex is what I've most frequently seen, like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>to y'all's point, making sure that oral sex is a consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>regular part and if it is not not there can

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<v Speaker 1>be a financial consequence. Absolutely out here, absolutely because that

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<v Speaker 1>could it could be considered a breach of your agreement. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's the thing. I'm glad that we actually brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up, because I did want to say that this

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<v Speaker 1>has been a conversation to where across my friends with

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship. Now, if marriage is ever on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>my partner has to sign a prenup at this point

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<v Speaker 1>with seeing like weezy and I don't have a cap

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<v Speaker 1>at all with with what with what we can see

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<v Speaker 1>horrible plus three Yeah, no, y'all going straight to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Already almost there. And so I want to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>how often do you see women doing the prenup to

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<v Speaker 1>protect themselves? Because normally we hear about the men wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to protect their assets and feel as though women are

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<v Speaker 1>the gold diggers. How often do women actually give the

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<v Speaker 1>pre Generationally shifting fast, y'all, Most every prenup I have

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<v Speaker 1>done have been for women and women of color, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>black women. I'll just say, you're playing because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>work around. Because we're not working around. We worked really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing we're gonna do is we're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>fucking school. We're gonna go to school, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>vote Black women gonna do that ship um, and we

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<v Speaker 1>own homes at a higher level. We we just are

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<v Speaker 1>acquiring wealth at a different level than our brothers, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need I want to close that wealth gap, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for our black brothers as well. But yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>believe everybody should get a prenup. I really do. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, guys, I know we did an awful job.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of gave Ebony the arrogant wheezy intro by

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<v Speaker 1>just saying Ebony whatever. It was a joke on another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We just know she is that bitch now. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>she said google me, I was playing. I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>a Wikipedia. Well, what I love about this conversation For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are not familiar with Ebony Kay Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to run down real quick. She is

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<v Speaker 1>our sister on the Black Effect Network and her co

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<v Speaker 1>host is there so fine, So justin is her co

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<v Speaker 1>host with on the podcast Holding Court. You guys may

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<v Speaker 1>have also seen her on Revolts State of the Culture. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. She came in, she gave me good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when he's coming back, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anyway. That actually like nothing. I didn't know about

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<v Speaker 1>it of Court. If I had a name was on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have say, that's kind of ore a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit connection because Ebony is the only person that I

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<v Speaker 1>know in this industry to work as well with Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlemagne almost coincidely, and so that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, girl, you're like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the only person to ever be huge energy, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going one. Wait wait, we just want to say, Charlottagne,

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<v Speaker 1>it is our partner. And I never hear him complain

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Joe. I really feel like he doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>a It's not that it's more it's just more of it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not obs because I'm the really idiots people. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was the ops, like who I work with,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlottmayne is up there doing his ship. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to act like that's well, no, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it can the people around us. No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what we're doing. It's people that say that people

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<v Speaker 1>working with both of them, We don't even need to

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<v Speaker 1>mention working with both of them, like, well, well me

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<v Speaker 1>and Ebony do um. And then people ask people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time they should um. And then I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to say as well for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>stands like myself. Uh, miss Ebony Kay Williams is the

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<v Speaker 1>first black castmatee on the Real Housewives of That's of

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Yeah, you know, I just started watching it

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<v Speaker 1>during quarantine and you know, I love to do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the voices me and Marry all. But so when I

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<v Speaker 1>first started watching um so, I was living in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>last year and the only things that I could watch

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<v Speaker 1>for very old episodes of Real house that they were

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<v Speaker 1>in English. So I live in Elias and when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw I was like Jill Zaron saw very fabric. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be walking by like damn, I'm gonna just buy

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<v Speaker 1>some Pellows and Drakes, just you like. It was so exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I fell out of Housewives, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you stop watching the show, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of don't realize that you'll fall back in. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I need draw, not because baby I stand. I did

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots like super huge. You fall in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of show. Even people with the podcast sometimes they'll still stop.

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<v Speaker 1>They jump back, like it happens when you have something

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<v Speaker 1>so long running. And just the excitement I think and

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<v Speaker 1>love that people have shown you Ebany has made me

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<v Speaker 1>so excited, especially Leah, like we're all so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>like see this happen. And especially because in Atlanta we

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<v Speaker 1>watched Black Girls for years and and Potomic and it's

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<v Speaker 1>married to medicine, amazing black women in New York and

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<v Speaker 1>we just got it. So keep watching anyway, anyway, shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to that. But I did real quick before we

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<v Speaker 1>get intar a little show. I did just want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a quick icebreaker. Uh. And even though we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of broke the ice real quick already, they're really quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather um and weezy? I would love your

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<v Speaker 1>answers on these as well? Real quick? Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>relationship edition, guys. Would you rather tell the truth and

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<v Speaker 1>hurt your partner or lie and not hurt your partner? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell the truth. I hurt my partner. I'm notorious for

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<v Speaker 1>hard truth in general. Friends, mama, partner don't matter. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling people you going to jail. No, but and

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<v Speaker 1>how much time can you do? And you should consider

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<v Speaker 1>that before you Yeah, I didn't let you, huh, because

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately a lot of my clients are repeat offender. Sorry weezy,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what y'all know about that life, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I didn't. He got locked right back up

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<v Speaker 1>and because he got later parole exactly, it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even get you before. You're sucking up again. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, what is your title? Because that is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna get into as well. You are a yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I am M. K. Williams Esquire, which means I

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<v Speaker 1>have a licensed attorney in the state of North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>still licensed to practice. And I'm an attorney, but I'm no,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't practiced. And about nine ten, she just know

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<v Speaker 1>a law of y'all, just like we know how to

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<v Speaker 1>dick all right, put it next way? And no one said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do that either, But you're

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<v Speaker 1>just getting it off the first date right right right

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<v Speaker 1>next one. Would you rather your parents not like your

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<v Speaker 1>partner or your friends not like your partner? For my

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<v Speaker 1>case my parents only because God knows, I love Glory,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's in New Orleans and she's not somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>has the interface with us. Okay, routine basis, what about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know you love your mama, and your mama

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<v Speaker 1>will tell I don't like this man. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when my friends don't like somebody, but my

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<v Speaker 1>mom would be hard. Your mom is very very rude

0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and petty when she doesn't like someone. Um, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced it, like when I was dating Jeeves. I dated

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<v Speaker 1>this white guy and he was very artsy williamsburgy guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom would addict the size of a forearm.

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom we're at dinner. Nice. He takes us

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<v Speaker 1>out to this place and my mom has been just

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<v Speaker 1>weight on hand and foot by men i've been with. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>She's used to me being a man, and even not

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<v Speaker 1>a fluent men, Like, this is what I do for

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<v Speaker 1>my mother. Right, we're doing Michelin Stars, we're doing of course. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to this restaurant and so you live in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, you're staying in New York. He goes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, okay, and how long do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to go on because she did. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she said, because he was he was artsy,

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<v Speaker 1>which means my mother broke. I don't take creatives like

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<v Speaker 1>that either. Now for me, I'm into that, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>times supposed to say that. I mean, it's cool they

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<v Speaker 1>see out at this point. I mean, my car husband

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't creative. I used to only I'm not my starter husband.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was basically like, you know, So we went

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<v Speaker 1>to the next club. I wanted to take them to

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<v Speaker 1>towel and my mom said, and is this the place

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<v Speaker 1>she would want to go, because you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I get your I see what your ribe is. You

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<v Speaker 1>had meet My mom would be real housewive, the first

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<v Speaker 1>black girl she could black women to get into Studio

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four. And she'll let you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want to hang out with she's she's she's a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I took her to the public hotel. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how boogie my mom? Is this where I get

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<v Speaker 1>it from? Ian Schragar designed that right, And so somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to tell her who he was, his white waitress.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom said, honey, I've done this before. I partied

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I know who he is. I've opened. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand this. I don't need you to tell me where

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Thank you, kind of like somebody tried to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about sag Harbor. Oh yeah, y'all gotta watched

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. You gotta watch. Go ahead, Okay, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>EXE either or last one? Would you rather make love

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<v Speaker 1>three times a day for a month or not make

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.840
<v Speaker 1>love for a month? Oh? No, three times a day

0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.440
<v Speaker 1>is fine in the beginning, that's great. Three times a

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<v Speaker 1>day day for a month. I can hang, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I can't. I can not do it at all. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ten times in one morning and still was

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<v Speaker 1>like coming over, that's ninety times, and I'm that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But the alternative is nothing. Let me. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure. That's a great question to no one

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:13.159
<v Speaker 1>says it has to be took. Yeah, look, so can we?

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<v Speaker 1>It could be three pumps it out. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say that is not if it's full on sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Did actually saying real quick sex? Actually doesn't say sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It says make love. When it's making love. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of intimacy. No, it's not just three strokes. That's

0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.119
<v Speaker 1>barely breakfast. Lunching dinner. Note. No, actually, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>I would make this. I feel like I could. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>up for a challenge. I would. It goes three times

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<v Speaker 1>every time regardless. So what that's different because you have

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<v Speaker 1>around within like a session three separate times. In my

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<v Speaker 1>head is like in the morning you say that you

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you can. It could be it could be backed back.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did the rule come from? Okay, came from Google.

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<v Speaker 1>Next is our vanilla ship. For those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>are tuning, who are tuning in for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanilla ship is sex in the news. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that maybe you guys have been aware of already,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to save it specifically to talk. Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>just because we and I ain't lawyer's bitch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I got two bachelors. That's about it. Um. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>people know she couldn't wait to tell us that I

0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>love it, girl, I love come from corporate, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to bitch. I came from corporate too. I just climbed

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<v Speaker 1>to the top of that. Okay with me, I got

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.080
<v Speaker 1>my little papers to um and I just figured out

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna hang on. My doctor Umar would say,

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<v Speaker 1>why do both of y'all me white man's paperwords. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this what we're doing? Don't get you an honorary brother.

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I've told you Dr Umar ain't even adopted and I

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't side with that motherfuck ne bro. That's it anyone, y'all? Wallet? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your friend? Girls? My brand? Okay? So the

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<v Speaker 1>middle Ya got this little narrow ass brand for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead? You know what if your Instagram, well, it's

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:07.680
<v Speaker 1>about to you. You a fenty ambassador, we all see

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 1>you with some link bit essence article. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>ohly ship, Yeah, the first time my personal life is

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>being discussed, which I get, Wenna get there. So I

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.199
<v Speaker 1>did want to have the conversation again, as some of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys may know, uh they legalized or decriminalized. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know the difference partially partially prostitution in New

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>York um. So we've talked about prostitution being legal in

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>places like Nevada, um where there's brothels and things like that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into this, what is the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>legalization and decriminalization, because I feel like that's what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been reading in the article and they go back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and I'm not sure if they mean the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing at all. Yeah, they really do. But it's like semantics, right,

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So when somebody says it's been decriminalized, like we're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>that about marijuana recently, right, So that means what used

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<v Speaker 1>to be deemed statutorially on the record books as a

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>violation of law is no longer deemed such. Not want

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 1>to be careful here what we talk about this new

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>semi partial decriminalization of prostitution, because it's not statutory yet, y'all,

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 1>so people still means that means, Okay, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to go to school house lock right all

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>the story because I think about it. So let's use

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<v Speaker 1>our context clues, right, So, statutory rape normally refers to

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.919
<v Speaker 1>when you've not been forcibly raped. It's it's a consensual

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>sexual act, but it's deemed statutory because of the age

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>on the book. So it's by the letter of the law,

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it's deemed illegal, not necessarily that all right, So let's

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>go back to statutory prostitution on the books, it is

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>still very much illegal to have any exchange of money

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>or commerce for consensual or non consensual sex acts. So

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that's important, and I want everybody liking y'all. That's why

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these organizations and coalitions around truly fully decriminalize,

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>decriminalizing sex work and prostitution and solicitation are still aggressive

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>despite this new policy. See now we're talking about a

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>policy that this particular district Attorney Suvance in Manhattan, he's

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>just decided not to prosecute. See the difference. God you,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>So the law is still on the books but is

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<v Speaker 1>still illegal, but you can't go to jail for it,

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>only because he is just choosing. See what I'm saying.

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Now we're talking about prosecutorial discretion. So that means once

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>he's out of office, because Sivance is not running again.

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So this is like governor desientists who in Florida. He's

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>a Florida governor is saying is that he won't prosecute

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 1>people who aren't wearing masks. Correct, So now we're talking

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>about the issue of So he is making that decision,

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he's making that decision, and once he leaves office, that

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>prosecution is still at play and it's up to the

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>next person that assumes the wrong. So it's not really,

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>it is not right, it's not don't believe the hype. Basically, um,

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. So you can still get arrested,

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>You can still get arrested, you will not be arrested

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>under Sivances administration. Now, I want to also give you

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>some more good news though. So far, all of the

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>other candidates, and there's a lot of them that are

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>running to replace Sivan's in dash here in Manhattan, have

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>all said they're gonna go further than Sivans. Not only

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>are they not going to prosecute um the people selling

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.719
<v Speaker 1>uh sex work per se, they're also not gonna penalize

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>or criminalize the purchasers of sex work. We were further

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>them is John's in the business aint. We call them tricks,

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. So now says if you bi sex, you

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>can be prosecuted even under Sivans. If you're selling sex,

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you cannot be. Oh you will not be I should

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>say all these new d as are saying fun the bullshit.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>We want to fully decriminalized I decriminalized. That's hard word

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to say, sex work. And we will not prosecute buyers

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>nor sellers of sex and they will support legislative episode.

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the key takeaway for all these ship sounds like

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of mumbo jumbo beach to the point we

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>need to keep the pressure on legislatively when we need

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the state assemblies and eventually federal legislators. So that's congressmen

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and women in U. S. Senators to decriminalize sex works.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the only way it will be consistent across the board.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>No one ever will ever be arrested again for unlicensed massage,

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>selling sex, or buying sex. And that's the goal, cause

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>sex work is work. And funk out of here on

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>your of course, yeah dustn't and I had a full

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>episode actually meant like because the women that some of

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the women on Real Housewives are very conservative, oh even

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>about a real housewive, like like do your stance on

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that in saying sex work is real work, especially being

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>on the show with entrepreneurs and wives and people who

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>may look down on sex workers. Is the conversation that

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>we can maybe see what you will see. Um, well,

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know Lee is my cast made and shout out

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to leva tween and she that's like literally her tagline

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>this year is um sex positive BS negative. So she's

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>gotten a lot of shift from these women because she's

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>very outspoken in her sexuality with yes, all those things

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>so next episode or the week after, I think this

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>episode for lou Anne and I get into a conflict,

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>will call it around these notions of respectability, politics and

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>vulgarity and what kind of women should you know? What

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>terms like if you were too liberal for that arena,

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Well you'll see how the ship goes down. Because my

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thing is, it's so funny. Actually, I'm glad we were

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about this because I know I present a certain

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>way and present a certain way. Looked like I want

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to propose to you right now with your little wife,

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>because she said you were giving what we still a

0:27:55.160 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>pup bitch. I'll takeing care of your girl. You might

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>just taking care of me. You might be taking care

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>of whatever. Y'all coordinated code she got on rare bottom

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>when I'm talking about But I'm on your show, so

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it's all good. It's all good, sisters. But yeah, so

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this notion of women that look a certain way, have

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a certain level of education, have a certain level of

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>societal standing, shouldn't say these things, or shouldn't um speak

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in these ways, or even shouldn't carry themselves in what

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe is like, for instance, a lot of people

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>are mad at me because I've said that, I said

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the word bitch a lot, I heard a lot. I

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>have a big potty mouth, um, and I'm hearing a

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of women black, white and other. You know, to

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>be such an educated young lady, it's a shame you

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>choose to use that language in you know, here's what

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I say to that comments and suffer yeah, and my

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>comments and my d m s and you know it's

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>like this, I respect your position. You need to get

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the funk out of here because I have earned the

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>right to use whatever fucking vernacular I choose to. And

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I can hit you with statutory the fucking policy and

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Iraan what's going on with the nuclear deal and all

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of that, and I can cut you the funk out,

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>so you know what I mean. So what we're not

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. It's like a ball and right, that's nuclear,

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>But we're not we're not gonna shame women. And Leah

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and I really we don't funk with that. We're not

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna shame women around their choice of how they choose

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to carry themselves and make ignorant presumptions around their knowledge

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>base based off of their their choice to lean in

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>or out of their vulgarity sexuality or anything. There's so

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>much uh sorry, go ahead. I had to get that off.

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.239
<v Speaker 1>There's welcome with them, like I've I've seen people talk

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>about her and her daughter when they TikTok together and

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>they have fun together, and um, we both have very

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>open moms and we've had them on our show. And

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I really feel like that's why I don't get pregnant right,

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Like my mom was so open, but then we had

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>shut up, shut up. I can't stand, y'all. I can't

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>say I saw. I just saw the most baby early.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So the meme I saw the other day, y'all, and

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>normally I'm you know, I have a ridiculous dress sense

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>of humor. Not a lot shakes to me. I was like,

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>oh they really think I don't know who it was, y'all.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It was somebody that was like, he's our baby daddy today.

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>To bit you just did, I was like, you might

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>have been at your page. I was like, I'm done.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I felt bad. That is true, you just camp it.

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. I saw Mothers Day. Damn, some of y'all

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you can say mother Day today. Let me not be

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>problematic because I was gonna say, we were so open

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to talk to our moms with things

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>get help. And I feel like not saying that whatever

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>happened with Kiki, that's Leah's daughter's name. I'm just saying

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I could see them having such a better bond when

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it comes to when she does get into the age

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>where she starts dating and and things, and I think

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it's so important. I think it works that way. I

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>think Gloria told me I was going straight to the hill.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if there was any and it worked that

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>way for me too, you know, so I think and listen.

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I also think kids are their own individuals. I think

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>so much of it is just they're gonna do what

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do. So I kind of think these extremes

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of parenting. I don't know. I'm not a parent yet.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. My mother was very like, oh no, I

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>can very much be like on the kids. Okay, you'll

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>get to in the essence piece. Yeah, I want to.

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I just want to let you know this, this is

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>it's already been a problematic episode. We get more problematic.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Just stay tuned. Yeah, but like, yeah, so I don't

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>think personally weasy. I don't know if there's a rhymar

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>reason I think the whole being super open and come

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to me when you're ready to have sex, and we'll

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>go get the birth control and then we'll, you know,

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring out the banana and teach you how to

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>properly uh what you call? Did you men? I still

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to put a condomn on a dick

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 1>reservoir tip the other day and he was like, I'm like, oh,

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess I just because it was big and I

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>know you need to leave the air too. And then

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I spell it, but I was trying

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to be like hot and put it on and then

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it just spread it. He was like, I will, I

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>will say what you just said. I'm so glad you

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>brought forth to it, because a little bit of that

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>was how and why we started this show. We had

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>met um for those of y'all who go back and

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe or aren't familiar with how we met. We met

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>after not speaking for about five years. But we were

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>both in different spaces of our life. I was in

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>school working for Golden Sacks, and she, you know, was

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>an account executive for a tech company. And when we met,

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>she also had a sugar daddy and I was still

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>getting flewed out. So we was like, damn, we're still smart,

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>we read books, we have real good jobs, and we're

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>still being horse. And we felt that it was important

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of women, you know, despite whether you're

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>in school, getting masters and bachelors or any type of education,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>in work in corporate or or literally taking care of yourself,

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you can do so and be respected but still indulge

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in the sexuality and things that you joy, and you

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>could still be who you are. I think, you know,

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>change to like you know, Louianna you just mentioned is

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot older, and we know she did her whole

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>countess thing. And I think that the way the world

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>has changed, with being so modern and being so open,

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>we will see that start to develop. Like I think,

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>only differences as we're talking about it. I mean, as

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Leah says in the Tailor, which is accurate, they're all hoos.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>We're all like, I mean, you know, it's true. You know,

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone's having a sexual experience of some sort, whether it's

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>with yourself, whether it's with multiple partners. What is the

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>definition of Yeah, what are we even talking about? What

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the fund is a whore? What is a whole? Like?

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>What you know that's such a loose We did a

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>post legal type of prostitution. Okay, we did a post

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>um God, I think I did this three years ago

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.959
<v Speaker 1>because someone like hurt my feelings with something and I

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, why did they call me that? And I

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, why is it hurting when someone else calls

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>me that? But not when we're saying it from promiscus.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>We got it so a whole fight because I called

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a promiscuous she said, I am not. I said, but

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you just said you got nutted in and went to

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>another niggata eat it all for something like that, Mandy,

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you did, But I loved them, so she thought, because

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>she thought because there were feelings for these men that

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>she was says there was a definition. We looked it up.

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>It said something about just like with no care or

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>no emotion or something. Oh I'm glad you guys brought

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 1>this up. Now I'm thinking about it. You know, Auntie

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>is a little older. He excuse me. We get into

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a serious debate on this season the Housewives and in

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.919
<v Speaker 1>this Hampton's arc about what friends with benefits means um

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and you guys are gonna see this, so it's like

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's Sonya and Lu and I put my twoth

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.240
<v Speaker 1>in out there and I just I just don't believe

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in sex shaming other women. Like if this woman wants

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>to have sex, um whoever, whatever, and that is her

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>comfort now in your business, you know what I mean?

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Like that is and and like for Sonya, as you'll

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>see her friends would benefit. She'll have her friends with

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>benefits for ten years. That's me, you know what I mean.

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>They're not in a relationship, but they have a sexual

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>compatibility and it gives I love it. That's me that well.

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And I like I was still up until this current relationship,

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I was sucking men that I was working in high school.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that's so crazy to me. She can't believe it.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's niggas that like from ten years ago, like

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 1>in mind you like I just turned thirty, So yeah,

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I've been with my man. You know, she she took

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that body away. I'm very much. I'm very much like

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I love it. But what is a hole? What? It

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>had four hundred comments of people so diffused. Some people

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>said prostitutes, the one it's selling sex someone to the

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>girl who's lose, someone who's and it was like, we

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>really don't know, and I think the reclaiming of that word,

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>which is funny when she said you're all hoses, no

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>one really knows, and a lot of there are a

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of hose that just don't present his hose. I mean,

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>can we tell a true no man, but you present

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it such like girl, let me get on one knee

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I just never I wasn't having sex

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and there wasn't an aura of sexual prowess to me.

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Nobody would actually want to marry me. Do you get that, Mandy?

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to be in a sexless marriage. And when

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you start dating older man, I don't know how the

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>oldest what's the oldest man you've ever dated? My man?

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Right now? How's the old Okay, I've dated. The oldest

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>man I've ever dated is fifty eight. And then but

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm older than you. I'm almost ten years older than you.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>You gotta remember, Okay, So therefore I have a seven

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>seen or girl. When you're talking about men who are

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in their later fifties who are mostly coming out of

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>their first or second marriage, most of them are divorcing

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>their first wives because they were having sex with them.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm they're traumatized from these sexless fucking marriages.

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>It ain't sexless because I with mad married niggas. They

0:36:55.600 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>were getting sex, but not from their wives. Oh yeah, fat,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm it was getting sex. That's the number one thing

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I find that these older men are looking for. They

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>are looking for a sexually active, fluid relationship. And look

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>at the sugar daddy dynamics. Yeah, they want you to

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>only be having sex with them, but they want a

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of sex, you know what. I feel like a

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of men want women because they also have checked boxes.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I remember, and I talked about this on the show.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I went out with a friend of mine and it

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>was me and two of my friends, and he literally

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>sat there and said, because of the shapes of our

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>bodies and what we exude, he doesn't feel like he

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>could bring me home. But the other girl, who mind you,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>my homegirl had all the sugar daddy is super sell

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 1>in the box. She has a more uh, I guess

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>persona that doesn't read sex or that. And so this

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>has been a conversation as well where men want to

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>take off and feel like they can bring their women

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 1>around their family or the church or different things because

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it looks good. But yeah, yeah, they're not fulfilled. That's

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>that's I think a lot of the men picked their

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>first wives based on that ship. They're picking somebody that

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>is aesthetically pleasing to everybody. But but and then the

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>second time, and I'm glad we're laying the foundation more

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>what we're about to get into. You know, I just

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>actually had a thought of some of my friends sent

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to me when we're talking about what is a home

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>shout out to Brittany. We were going out that night

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>on FaceTime with some dude. I'm talking to just one

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of the and she was like, oh, you know, we're

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>about to go be hosed And he was like, what

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>does that mean? And she was like, it told me,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>we're really gonna be home. It just mean we don't

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>have whole energy. We're gonna be talking and ship. We're

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be talking, and then we don't go home. You'll

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>be making out with your friends. Uh that my friends,

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>my friends. I fu women that I want to like.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't like, you know, I don't like doing that line. Why.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I just want to know an out and be like, oh,

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go be host tonight, but you're really not

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>holding But see No, that is where you have your

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>own definition. When I told my man I was out

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>with my friend and then I spent the night, he

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>knew we fucked and I didn't out, but he was like,

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>does he consider that cheating? If you have sex mean

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you being a hole? Though? I mean I had set.

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>When I say I'm going to go be a home,

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>it means I'm going at the club and I'm gonna

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>be on some bird ship. You're gonna look at my stories,

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like that's what it looks like. That's when

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I say I'm gonna be a whole, like I'm out

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>bro see. I think it's just a difference in age

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>because I don't go back there because I like in

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>school in law school, Like there are people that you know,

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>see me now and see my career and they're like, wow,

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't we give the same epony. And I've always

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>been the same way. It's just a bit just tired.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was doing all that what you're talking about, dad,

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'll come and talk to me all that fifty

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>years ago, you know. Seriously, when I was twenty, when

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I just barely missed the window for

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>freakneck o you're kind not made it through college if

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you really took it, think about it. No, I had

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a good ass time in college. If you really would

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>engage in the freakneck who knows that actual freakneck in Inlands?

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? But I had enough great hall parties and

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that you had New York at its prime. I'm knowing

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>what I wasn't in. You know I was in the South,

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>are you? Yeah? Um Chapel Hill, excuse me, your tar

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Heel Tario good duke, look you, but you didn't really

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 1>go there though? Nobody don't you do it? Actually waits

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a duke? It's okay, Yeah, go ahead and buy that

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>stank and as duke t shirt at the Walmart and

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>keep it cute. Man. Actually, wait a second. Every single

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I don't think I was gonna get mad

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>in here. I did get but listen, every time I

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>have a layover in the Charlotte Airport, that's where I

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>get my duke at tired. Okay, And just anybody that's

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>been the Duke's sections this fucking day, we're not okay.

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>And the tar Heel ship is like my goods just said,

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>um not Walmart, the airport, I think it was a

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 1>step up airport, go to our horde where we get

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>into our horrible decisions. So the horrid derb. I want

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to ask both of y'all. Um, I wanted to give

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>tips today on how to be intimate with your partners

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 1>without penetration. I know there's a lot of women who

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 1>we talked about sex almost being a duty, and we'll

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about that a little bit more in terms of marriages.

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>But what act physically or emotionally have you done with

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>your partner that is still intimate but does not include penetration.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to start, or you can start, wait because

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you got one. Go ahead, Evany, let's start with you sometimes.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But it came to me, Um, I guess, uh, synchronized masturbation. Oh,

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Look, it was new for me in

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>my last relationship, and I thought it was very cool

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>when you guys retired or no, it was honestly was

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>when we wanted to be like extra nasty. Yeah, no,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>for sure, it is. It's like yeah, yeah, So it's

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>like I wanted to be a porn star. Let out

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>my porn star energy when you believe it there where

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>y'all watching, just see it, and I'm like let's see,

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get market right right, I'll let you

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>go talk to me. That's the name of the restaurant, like, oh,

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I love the name home. That's where we're going. Yeah.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I did want to say something that I've recently been doing.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>What be going to my how you know what I mean?

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>So something that me and my partner do and I

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>think that you know. So, I've been recently taking bar.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm doing bar. Oh my god, it's like yoga

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but with like a ballet ship. Oh a r R

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>got it, bitch, my body hurt, baby. But I'm like,

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I've just been like your flexibility. No, So I'm working

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>on my flexibility. So I'm doing bar and then I

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>do cardio as well. And something that I really appreciate

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that he does is that doesn't include penetration. He lays

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>me on top of him and he literally stretches my

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>whole body so I'll be on top of him, and

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>he pulls my legs all the way back and stretches that.

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Then he'll take my arms and pull them all the

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>way back, and so as I'm on top of him.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>After workout thing, this is in the morning after sex.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>This is also just when we're just laying down and

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 1>he's like, let me just stretch you. And it's something

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that is just like I feel so good, Like I

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.959
<v Speaker 1>literally moan while he does. But it's like he knows

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 1>I've been working out, and he even was like, let

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>me come down to your gym and make sure you're

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>doing the right ship because I don't need you losing

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>certain things that I like this there, but he knows

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been working out, and I just you know, and

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>he'll just stretch me, and so I lay on top

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of him and he just, you know, he's athletic, so

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he knows these little athletes. Um a little

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>over a year now and it's been great, but he

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>loves that I'm getting now back into just being more

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>active and he just stretches me, and I'm like, oh

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>my god, I've never had a person she never had

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a trainer is a training old. I used to fun

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>models and trainers, and I never had someone like this

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is training one on one but but but that but

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>in a way where we're not in the gym, we're

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>not on the phiore, and it's just like it could

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely be sexy too. Let me tell you when I

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>get stretched out, shout out to my trainer Gino, who

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 1>really has a brother ly vibe to me. We haveing

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>friends for a long time, but every time he stressed me,

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh my goodness, he's just beauty turned off.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And also, stretching is so sexual. By the way, anyone

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>who ever uses services like this is a totally professional person. Um.

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think I, in my head thinks stretching is

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>so sexual. I think massages are sexual. The white on

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the right, the way the way I be sage of

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>my nigga, you be like, okay, So I go lower

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>back and then I go like hips. And then when

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I get them cheeks and I started spreading them, I

0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>start my thumb going in. I'm just saying I loves

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, welcome now, guys, to the horrible decision here.

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I did want to talk about clearly again, we've talked

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>about you looking like a wife. You've been engaged, you've

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>been married. I wanted to talk about the rules of

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>or maybe the duties of a housewife and compare it

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to the modern day woman, um. But also what we

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>expect um and something that I did want to bring up.

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess before we start there. Um, there is a

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>negative connotation currently with housewife. Um, you are a lawyer,

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you have all of these brands and platforms. Now you

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>would be considered a modern day woman, which Kevin Samuels

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>actually says is our downfall a lot is that the

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>modern day woman is not prepared to be a wife

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>because we're so overly independent. How is Kevin, I'm really interesting, right,

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting catalyst for a deeper, more important conversation.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm very seriously funny. So this is. But I don't

0:45:58.239 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>listen to a ton of Kevin because I do think

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes he'd be right about some of these women expectations,

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I get it, But I don't think that anybody,

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>especially that looks the way that he does, can get

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>on anyone's Internet and tell women how they asked him.

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:20.439
<v Speaker 1>But way way. It's the same way we say he's

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>knowing it. Now it's a spectacle, and now he's able

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to make money from demeaning black It's the same way

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>we said, no one in this room listens to uh

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Steve Harvey, but people do just to mean black men

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>too when they called on like he had this one

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>dude under here. It doesn't matter but he'll do this.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I do think he's equal opportunity. Like, dude, you're like

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>five six, you're overweight dollars a year, and you talk

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>about you want to tend bro where you know. I

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you as as a woman, who is

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I would consider despite you being untie aged, like you said,

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you are a modern day woman. You own businesses and

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>you're growing. There's no there's no ceiling to what you

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>can do either. However, you do still have a lot

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of powerful, wealthy men, which is what I think a

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of us seek, who want the housewife, who don't

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>want you to do anything. So I wanted to talk

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit before we get into as well,

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you're positioning in men's lives. Yes, um, but yeah, talk

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.879
<v Speaker 1>to us about about that. I think it's a real

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>conflict of interest. It's the best way to describe it,

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, I think a lot of I thought,

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think I still think, but I'm open to

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>being corrected on this. That the answer because before my

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>ex fiance, all the men outdated I was the breadwinner

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like significantly so and that was fine because you know whatever,

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 1>like we said, sugar mom, Okay, I was gonna be

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.280
<v Speaker 1>stuck about, but like too making two or three times

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>what they made, and that that was fine. Um just

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>because my well, my gord, when you make a lot

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of money and you're in a certain bracket though, like

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it's hard working, you know, bullshit jobs. It's just they

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.320
<v Speaker 1>were in different fields. You know, I was at a firm.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I was still remember doctors are only making like once.

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they look at you. Can you not say one

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty ain't ship. I'm just people listening to doctor. That's

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 1>not ship. It's not not ship when you have three

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars worth that school. I'm sorry. I never

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger and millions did too. I'm in

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>shock at what doctor's name. My friends, my friends doctor

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:25.320
<v Speaker 1>will make millions. But well good, It's just like lawyers,

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, dollar, your lawyers million dollar or your lawyers.

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>So insane with doctors, you're right, sist. It's like some

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:36.720
<v Speaker 1>do make and some make three million because they're stay agents.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Their cardio basket and this, and man, I'm not shooting

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>on someone making fifty. It is really that that pay

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is way too low for that job, and that pay

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is could we just be honest that is a hard

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>way to live in New York City if you're accustomed

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to a certain lifestyle. And I'm just gonna say that

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a fact. So whatever. Um. Back to the men

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>with money, Yes, a lot of them say that they

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>want a Clare Huxtable type. They want a Michelle Obama.

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>They want somebody that's going out here getting it like

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>they're getting it. But they do not really want That

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>has been my experience, because they do expect you to

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>get in where you fit in to a life that

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.919
<v Speaker 1>they have already curated. Um from them deciding where y'all

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>are gonna live, where you're gonna go to vacation, where,

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>how the builds are just whatever, um. And I want

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to be in control. They do want to be in control,

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>but they don't And they say they want a partner.

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think you can control some women willingly. I

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a bad thing. I want to be

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>very clearly. There are plenty of women that like it

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Some women like it because they don't have

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>another way to live that lifestyle. Let's just tell the truth.

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I'm too busy to make decisions.

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a different thing, though. What you're talking about is correct.

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about an optionality portion. I'm talking about women

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that are dependent on that man's ability to curate a

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle they would never otherwise even have access. And I

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>think that those men that want that should be with

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>those kind of women. Lee and I have actually been

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about this. She's gonna be mad, But Lee and

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I've been talk about this recently. Some of these men

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that we're being set up with through these you know,

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>wealthy social life friends of ours. We go out with

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>these men, and these men are confused about their market value.

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>These are men that make a little bit of change.

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>They might have a little house in Greenwich, they might

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>drive a four door autie and they out here thinking

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>they ball it out of control. And they really think

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that women like us who make our own significant means

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be are gonna be like your dad, I

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>don't give up, Like what what what life was like?

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I really think it must be like I don't

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>know if I've seen this many women entrepreneurs five ten

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 1>years ago. I've already talked about the amount of money

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:56.959
<v Speaker 1>I make with some people and they're like no, really yeah,

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and they won't believe it or I was on a

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>date drink thing kind of with this guy who was

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>saying something about me needing to have um a partner, like, oh,

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 1>you know when you guys get a summer home. I said, honey,

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I've been looking at property in Miami already, right, how

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.959
<v Speaker 1>can have one alone? That you were talking about getting

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 1>cribin in Atlanta? Yeah? Why wouldn't we be able to do?

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>They're very confused because there was a general not too

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>long ago, let's be clear, where women of all races,

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>but particularly women of color, would never have had the

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>financial access that we enjoy because we've worked for it,

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to be clear. But they're not accustomed to it. So

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they really are out here. Most of them come out

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of a first or second marriage, and they're thinking that

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they got monopoly money to spend, and they think that

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to get a batty with a great job,

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and they were supposed to be oh so excited about

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>their mediocre ass like to it's the idea of being

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>excited about money, cars, homes that essentially I have access to.

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>So you think that I'm supposed to fall over you

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 1>because these are the things you have, but they're not

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>things that are mine. That you're giving to me, and

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>so the times it used to be the goal though man, yeah,

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and again it's seen everything is different now. A generation

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>ago that that would be yours. That's what women were

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>marrying for. They were marrying to say, I can't afford

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a summer home by myself ever, but if I marry

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>this man, you can't. Even Let's build on the control

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>part for a moment. If you have an Essence article

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>that came out, they could someone say, could make you

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>look controlling. Oh yes, people are saying heine conversation and

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>so so, guys, there has been For those of you

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 1>who are not hip on what's happening with Real Housewives

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of New York. Um, though Ebony is on there, she

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>did call off her engagement, so she is not currently

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>tied to anyone, which is why she said she's being

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>set up. Um. But Essence wrote an article and says

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that the Real Housewives of New York newby understands that

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 1>kids come first. Um. However, she says that she needed

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to be first. So the article pretty much paints the

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 1>picture that you called off your engagement because this man

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>chose his kids over you. Now, there is a lot

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of dialogue with that, especially when you're dating older men. Yes,

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you're coming into oftentimes them having a previous family, you

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>possibly having to address the ex wife or ex baby mom,

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 1>or you know, the mother period. Can you go into

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that a little bit, because that is a little problematic

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>A little bit. I totally respected, I respect everybody's opinion

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that the kids should come first, and I actually divinely

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>disagree with that, and I know that I have an

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>unpopular minority of cases. I believe in the divine order.

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's God spouse kids. I don't have a

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.359
<v Speaker 1>funk whose kids they are. I don't care if there

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>are kids we brought into the world together. I don't

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 1>care if they're the kids you have with your ex wife,

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>your baby mama, or three moments ago. I truly believe

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that is a fundamental problem in American society today. I

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 1>think all these funking I feel like these kids. I

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like all these kids are out here being treated,

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>many of them, as if they are the center of

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the universe, as if their their desires and their expectations

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of life and family are the primary priority. And I

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.839
<v Speaker 1>think it's really fucking these kids up. I think there's

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a place for children in society, and I think it

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:31.399
<v Speaker 1>is really to be at the guidance and foundational um

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.919
<v Speaker 1>subordination of the adults in the family. I think there's

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>kids and there's adults. And I believe that any man

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that is to be my husband has to make me

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.759
<v Speaker 1>his primary partner and priority and we together, and don't

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 1>pick me if you don't trust my judgment to build

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful, safe and loving family for you and your children.

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>If you don't believe in my ability to do that,

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't be your wife anyway, because you're saying you

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>would have accepted those kids into your home. And then

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in that regard, let's talk about these kids. Okay. First

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of all, these kids were one team eighteen and thirteen,

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>so two of them were young adults. Okay, so that's

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:12.760
<v Speaker 1>thirteen is fine, But two of them were twenty and eighteen.

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So where I come from, I've been out of the

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>house at sixteen. I was out of the house at eighteen.

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I was out of house at sixteen. I was at

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the Great University of North Carolinia Chapel Hill, Mandy at sixteen. Okay,

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>again again shout out to the tar Hills um we're

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna bleep that out. Um, you know. So again, I

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 1>know that this is not customary my feelings about it,

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and I just believe that the way I'm able to

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 1>navigate space as an adult, as an entrepreneur, as a

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:49.720
<v Speaker 1>strong businesswoman, it's a strong woman confidence in my blackness

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and femininity at the same damn time. It is because

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I was raised by a strong adult. And I just

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I just think a lot of these parents out here

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 1>are fucking punks, I really do. And I think they

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>let these kids run over them. The kids are running

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the households, and the parents, husband's wives, mothers, and fathers

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>are really at the They're deferring to children's leadership within

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the home, and I think it's a problem. Was he

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>quarantined with their mother as well? No, they're rich. So

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.879
<v Speaker 1>these people all have different houses. Okay, So their mother

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 1>is married, been married for ten years to a wonderful man.

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So they have a huge house in New Jersey. My

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 1>ex fiance has another huge house in New Jersey, in

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>addition to the house that we shared together in Tribeca.

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 1>A lot of houses he chose to to quarantine in Tribeca,

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>excuse me. In one of the New Jersey, New Jersey

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:42.839
<v Speaker 1>houses without man And when you say quarantine, this isn't

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 1>ten days, this is this is the duration this was.

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>He left. He came in the room with a backpack

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>on and said, I'm going to Jersey because Cuomo and

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>them saying it's gonna be a lockdown and I won't

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:55.800
<v Speaker 1>be able because that's what we had done, and it

0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>had worked. Back and forth, of course, back and forth.

0:56:58.640 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I would never stand in the way of

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a man. That's why I don't like the way those

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 1>articles were written, implying that I would ever ever put

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>myself in front of a man and his children. That's ridiculous.

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I would never have the audacity to do that. I

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>will tap out before I do that. So he had

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 1>successfully up until that point, managed being with his kids

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday night, being with his kids pretty much every

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>weekend because he's just a very active father. Not every

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>other he was every weekend, and it was never a problem. Um.

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But when the quarantine hit, he went in March and

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really see him back in the city until August. Oh,

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, excuse me, wait, wait not the adjustment of

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the seat. Yes, now, let's get into it. Were you

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>not invited? I was invited. Did he want you to stay?

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>He just saying come by, or did he not say, hey,

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>this is okay. Let me just tell no, that's crazy.

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>March August. He wanted me to come and stay permanently

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 1>with them in jun Jersey during the warrantine and in

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the perfect world Ladies who wouldn't want to share at

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that time with their soon to be husband. We were

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 1>actually planning a wedding and they're soon to be step kids.

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Goes back to what I was just talking about. Leadership.

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>My ex fiance, wonderful man. Still love him to this day,

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not in love with him, but love him as a

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>goodass man. We had a fundamental different value system as

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it relates to children's positioning in the home to me,

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 1>his oldest children, not the thirteen year old. He was

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>never the problem, sweet little boy. The oldest children ran

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the household, and I it was not. He did not curate,

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>my ex fiance, did not curate a safe, comfortable environment

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.640
<v Speaker 1>in that home to where I was comfortable as a

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>grown ass woman who still had to work. I was

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>still doing. They did the culture launching, holding court all

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this ship for house. I couldn't live there, and because

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>my ex fiance love him to death, he didn't curate

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>an environment where I could be there with them. I

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 1>had to select myself. And I don't have any other family.

0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't have no cousins. I don't have like, I

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have that. I don't have any siblings. My mom

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 1>was in New Orleans. I had to be in New

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>York for work, so I was by myself. I got COVID.

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I was sick for six eight weeks moderately, so no, no,

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I had symptoms. I was sucked up for like six

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to eight weeks by yourself, by myself. Oh yeah, by myself.

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. He didn't send no soup, he didn't send

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 1>no nurse, he didn't send anything. Because I get it.

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He was some and this nigga came over and bathed me. Yea.

0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So for those reasons, I am not trying to make

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>him look like a bad person. He's not. He just

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>is a fundamentally different belief system. He believes that his

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 1>children are his family, and he never saw me as family,

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's the deeper issue. So I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>enter a whole fucking marriage with a spouse that doesn't

0:59:56.360 --> 1:00:00.120
<v Speaker 1>identify me as family. I think were these questions, these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations that were had early, like as far as values,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like women should ask these questions prior?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how early should these conversations we had them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really glad we're talking about this um and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>people can learn from it because I learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where he's definitely not a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't looking for a wife. Let me give him

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<v Speaker 1>that credit. He did not his he knew his kids

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<v Speaker 1>were still growing up because when I met him as

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<v Speaker 1>kids where I think like sixteen, fourteen and nine, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he wasn't looking for a wife. He wasn't looking

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<v Speaker 1>to make anyone other than his children his priority. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's not in the wrong here. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>very clear about that. At the time, I was on

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<v Speaker 1>some Oprah ship. As I said in the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>of RONDI, I wasn't looking for her husband. Every man

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever met before him slowed me the funk down,

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<v Speaker 1>costing ship liabilities in every fucking way. So I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a husband or wanting children either. I grew up, deeply,

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<v Speaker 1>deeply loved this man. Y'all and seeing him be the

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<v Speaker 1>father that he is to his kids made me aspire

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<v Speaker 1>to that relationship, and I was like, damn, this is

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<v Speaker 1>some special love, this is some beautiful ship. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>do want this. So what happened is short, Mandy, what

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<v Speaker 1>we want to change? What I want to change. I

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<v Speaker 1>decided in the course of the four year relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to be a wife. My opinion that you changed.

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<v Speaker 1>When I read the article, I was like, you must

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<v Speaker 1>have misconstrued her words. Then when you started speaking, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, she really means this bullshit? Really then,

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<v Speaker 1>Chel the end, it made me realize, oh, because you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. As as women, we should put our work

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<v Speaker 1>in our career first. Um with oh, Bay who I date.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a VP at a huge financial entity. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>great black man, and now he's completely offloaded at that

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<v Speaker 1>tier to work wherever he wants. So it's like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still living in Mexico. Let's live in Mexico, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico City, let's keep doing to loom. We'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>crib here. And I'm like, I'm like, well, now, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I have a job offer that's got me back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth to l a salaried again. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>studio here, just got the second one, like I'm not leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and I'm third. Yeah, you know you're in

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<v Speaker 1>your forties. You're feeling like you're setting this Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I move with all this ship running, I hold myself back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. So let's put a pin in that. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I had a career opportunity come to me maybe year

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<v Speaker 1>two of our relationship, and this is where I started

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<v Speaker 1>to push for marriage. I need to know, motherfucker, are

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<v Speaker 1>you my family? Because before I pass up on this

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<v Speaker 1>l a big time seven figure job, are you my family?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're my family, this is why I'm old fashioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Funk that job. If you're my family, fuck that job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're my priority. This is why being number one mutually

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<v Speaker 1>is important. Okay, and this is why I hold two

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<v Speaker 1>to this standard. And nobody's gonna get me office. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can call me a selfish bitch, a raggedy bitch, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not understanding bitch, whatever, I'll be all of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have to be family to each other, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be each other's priority. Because if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to make me your family and your priority, now

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<v Speaker 1>I have to take that job because I'm not your

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<v Speaker 1>number one? How the funk you look like? Am I? You?

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<v Speaker 1>You are a modern day woman and that's I think

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of women listening to this. We all

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<v Speaker 1>want to be Evan. We do. We y'all talking just

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. I'm just kidd was I was like this crazy? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Kids, really hope that people has to read

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<v Speaker 1>the name of this episode. By the way, kids, I

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<v Speaker 1>really hope you Williams ever made to people are able

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<v Speaker 1>to get to this point in the conversation because we

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<v Speaker 1>we we get a lot of comments where they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I wasn't even able to finish because

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<v Speaker 1>your guests said that crazy shit, and like even Weezy said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, this bit really gonna live down

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<v Speaker 1>this hill on the right. But I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>was the most We to never let a guests talk

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<v Speaker 1>without interrupting, like you keep going right, explain you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that this is gonna go somewhere. That was great. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say he got me really wanted to bench

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<v Speaker 1>holding court. What is the holding court about? Because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Dustin He's so funny, so talented and funny ever

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<v Speaker 1>is in the marketplace for some vagina. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to know I'm first in line and could a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have sided deal, you could have thought deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You must not know about our deals. So one might

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<v Speaker 1>be that's the probably facts. Presidents, presidents, president, we should

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<v Speaker 1>ask us in what is his type if he had to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that, Dustine, I've never asked him. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that he's gold star. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>he's never had a woman sexual. He hasn't look at

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<v Speaker 1>us we're talking about let me not talk about somebody sexually.

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<v Speaker 1>All the niggas we have the same type of niggas. Okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask him after this podcast, a star, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a girl? Do? I? Do you look too? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>I still want to suk us it more well, I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you. I actually made a comment about that once,

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<v Speaker 1>and I read some reviews about how they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>how uncomfortable do you think it is for a gay

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<v Speaker 1>man to constantly hear when it's so hard to live

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<v Speaker 1>in his world that you guys want to him? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yo, sorry, is it hard for him?

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably annoying. It's probably annoying. I think it's annoying here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably annoying, so I think. But I think also

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in the can you imagine me as so sexy?

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, but he demands like I've

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<v Speaker 1>walked in rooms and me and Carlo we did like

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<v Speaker 1>we went to a club with dust at one time

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<v Speaker 1>and we just looked. It was like, oh, dust we

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<v Speaker 1>know you ain't ship the way the ment like people

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not going nowhere with Dustins a very condu

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<v Speaker 1>and he radiates a very welcoming energy energy and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is really the most exciting thing about

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<v Speaker 1>that person totally, when you meet people that just welcome

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<v Speaker 1>you and anything. I've seen Dustin a few times this

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<v Speaker 1>summer during quarantine, and um, I've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that I recognize in the industry, and Dustin is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the only ones that will always speak to me,

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<v Speaker 1>hug me, be kind to me, and if a fan

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<v Speaker 1>comes up to him, be just as war. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with being on Black Effect, was that something curated through

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<v Speaker 1>Black Effect or did you have a relationship with Dustin.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know Dustin from a can of paint. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened was I was already curating Holding Court pre Black

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<v Speaker 1>Effect and Charlemagne. You know, we've been in talks for years,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever, I was like, call me when the ship

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<v Speaker 1>is real by Charlemagne. Um, to his credit, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get the fox? Yeah, all the calls, the

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<v Speaker 1>call shout out to Charlemagne, Charle Charlemagne, and he did,

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<v Speaker 1>to his credit. And so by that point I was

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<v Speaker 1>already going to launch independent and come out of pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the vibes. Um. But but anyways, it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was already looking for a co host wheezy

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<v Speaker 1>before the Black Effect deal materialized. And my shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to my dear friendness Sword Natalie Robinson, who was in

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode of Real Housewives of New York. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>my age is a little bit older, but she's got

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<v Speaker 1>she's with the ships, like she keeps her finger on

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<v Speaker 1>the pulse. You know, I'm on my auntie status. She's like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see this TikTok and my cal no beach?

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<v Speaker 1>I got no TikTok's just like so I saw called her.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm looking for I said, I want

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<v Speaker 1>extremely smart, extremely funny, because you know, I can excuse

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<v Speaker 1>serious Uh, I want younger than me, which is hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>because Dustin's not. I was like, and I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about sexuality. Just make him look good, though, because at

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<v Speaker 1>something I want to take this show on the road

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<v Speaker 1>and I make no apologies. At some point I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do concert. Yeah, I need an attractive man. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want no ugly fucking man. And um she Dustin

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<v Speaker 1>Ross was the first name she sent me. She sent

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<v Speaker 1>me like fifteen, and I clicked on Dustin's I g

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<v Speaker 1>and I called him immediately and I never talked to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else's shout out. We dropped Wednesdays, We dropped every

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday everything. Yeah, but you don't need to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>We need video. We're gonna go to show some space.

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<v Speaker 1>Look good, do look good. It might be something people

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<v Speaker 1>watch on you Just Jack to take it in on

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<v Speaker 1>just the jack off? I mean, is that is that

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<v Speaker 1>the threshold? This episode? Jack on a funny when I

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<v Speaker 1>started to get a lot, man Gan, where does my

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<v Speaker 1>modesty come in? Right? One thing? Is your show come

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<v Speaker 1>on on TV? Okay? Real Housewives of New York comes

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday nights, nine pm only on Provo. Check out

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<v Speaker 1>our sister eany I know we were talking about not

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<v Speaker 1>having other podcasters on for a while the way, but yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't. But I was like, no, but every

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come on and then no other we really we know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love y'all, thank you. I'm really really glad I

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<v Speaker 1>came on. I'm glad you guys gave me the space

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about my truth because people bad as sucked

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets. But the way you expect, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that you and that's for me. I'm not saying no,

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<v Speaker 1>the woman or man has to apply that standard. I

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<v Speaker 1>learned an important lesson and that's why with my current matchmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want nobody with no kids that's not grown

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<v Speaker 1>because the matchmaker. We gotta do Part two. Goddamn it,

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<v Speaker 1>do the matchmaker? Could the betchmaker come on with you?

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta do that, y'all actually know the matchmaker probably

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<v Speaker 1>like y'all know that, like there's you know, levels, but

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<v Speaker 1>like the matchmaker, matchmaker, y'all know, we gotta We'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Dot Com enjoyed the five minutes to tune it into

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Horrible Decisions. Then Shroby, what the fund

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Proby, it's like an Hourly Hotel of Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like a sex hotel. There's like mirrors on

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling, there's in the room. It's so fucking gross,

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<v Speaker 1>but it gets the job done. How much was it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what tears? Like. The nicest room is like seventy. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even listening that bro. Like the nicest is

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty, y'all would say, for like four hours or

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<v Speaker 1>some ship like that. He picked me up from my

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<v Speaker 1>house and we got stop. So we met at wingstop

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and then such a nigga as story. We met

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<v Speaker 1>in a wing stole. Now we started fucking. Y'all is

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<v Speaker 1>from Florida for real? Okay, So hold on, So y'all

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<v Speaker 1>meet and go to a choby. That's what's called right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually it's on Oka Chobe. The hotel is called

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<v Speaker 1>Executive Hotel or like Executive Palace or whatever. It's just amy.

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<v Speaker 1>We call it the Chobe because it's on I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>posting Executive Palace. So you guys meet there. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago, and yeah, we're either of you doing

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<v Speaker 1>only fans type content. No, we didn't start doing well

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<v Speaker 1>till like nine months. So once you tell and love. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's like that because we were like we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>knock out everything I want to do now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just get it out the way before we catch feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and then like figure it out later. But then the

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<v Speaker 1>exact opposite happened. It was like seven months of us

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<v Speaker 1>talking and getting to know each other and then once

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<v Speaker 1>we like ca realized all right, you're not going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going anywhere, Like it's like, actually get into

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<v Speaker 1>the technic. What about So my first time like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Ali again, I was on Twitter and this girl accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>posted a picture of her boyfriend's dick. Did y'all have

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<v Speaker 1>only fans before her or after that? I think he

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<v Speaker 1>had his only fans and he had like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of dick picks up. Um. So it wasn't until after

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<v Speaker 1>taking He's like, all right, well do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this? And I'm like, yeah, so you started doing

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<v Speaker 1>an only fans. Tell me what happens when the first

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<v Speaker 1>person that y'all know, whether it's like family or a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, what the fund is wrong with you? It

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened yet. It was not a surprise for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends. But it's pretty on brain for

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<v Speaker 1>my close friends, like from people that I know from

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<v Speaker 1>high school that I'm actually really close with their right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we saw you look like you. We couldn't expect

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<v Speaker 1>those cities this day in your top know, how much

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<v Speaker 1>time do you dedicate to an only fans profile? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how much time do you actually need to put into

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that it's worth it, because at some point

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<v Speaker 1>you had a regular job. It's a it's a daily job,

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<v Speaker 1>like just as far I mean, I know, um, just

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<v Speaker 1>some friends. I know some people they set out days.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't got to that point where we're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this is too overwhelming. We need to set days

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<v Speaker 1>to do this kind of just like all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, we're on Instagram. Let's just go check only fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Like as far as like shooting and whatnot, Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no schedule. We kind of just yeah, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>still like a l and error process, like just like

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<v Speaker 1>understanding what we want and what we don't. And she's

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<v Speaker 1>like that like working with people or like we're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep through something exclusively for our this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. So it's like go back and forth from

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, trying to see like what we like

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<v Speaker 1>to do, or like how we like, like how we

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<v Speaker 1>like to spend our time with. Do you notice that

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<v Speaker 1>the sex is different when you're doing only van sex

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<v Speaker 1>versus like other like your personal sex, like tell us that, Um, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really That's why I like. I like telling people

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<v Speaker 1>like if we didn't have an only fans, we would

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<v Speaker 1>still have as many videos in our phone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta old this ship to a cloud. When we started,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just old videos from like when we first

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<v Speaker 1>started talking