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Speaker 1: fun as episode with Ebony the Queen Williams. Guess what

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Speaker 1: decision we're about to make? Horrible Decisions. Hi guys, welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of Horrible Decisions. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Mandy Be sitting next to Wheezy w TF. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: love it, y'all. We got a guest today and I'm

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Speaker 1: super excited that she finally came and joined us. Yes,

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Speaker 1: with the hold, but in this outfit she's holding couch

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Speaker 1: and saving it. We would love to give a warm

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Speaker 1: welcome y'all to our guest today, miss Ebony. Kay, will

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Speaker 1: you what's up? No, we ain't got to sound effects,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm so excited for you to finally join us.

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Speaker 1: Up too long Nowbody tell you to be in Miami fail.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, as far as you're branding.

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Speaker 1: When we got the email from Dolly that was like

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Speaker 1: every wants to come on the show, I was like,

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Speaker 1: is there another Ebany? Really? No, but I've been stalking

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Speaker 1: maybe in her d. I was like, but you know

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Speaker 1: what it's I guess that's what you think people are

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Speaker 1: on Instagram right right? For example, I'm always getting books

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Speaker 1: and those covers. Wheezy about those books and those covers.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, damn, we'll be gonna say, hey

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Speaker 1: was she Oh, I'm not gonna y'all send me that

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Speaker 1: dryass rundown bitch. I did listen. I did. I did

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Speaker 1: because I was like, you know, like certain people, we

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Speaker 1: still want them to feel comfortable, even though we will

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Speaker 1: make you feel uncomfortable. I was like, Okay, well, here's

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Speaker 1: the way we're gonna go about this so that I

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Speaker 1: don't have to ask Ebony if she eats aster like

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Speaker 1: toes which one do you do? You know, I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to But also, if you had to pick, would

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Speaker 1: you rather eat ass or sucktos? Suck toes? Definitely? Really

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Speaker 1: you ain't you ain't look Yeah, yeah I don't. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't even feel hard to me. Oh yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a like men feeling? I actually haven't.

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Speaker 1: Haven trying to think. I would prefer that they're both,

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Speaker 1: that they both would be washed. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I don't presume either the anus the toes are washed.

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Speaker 1: You know, you said man toes man toes is different

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Speaker 1: than I will say. You do give hetero, but you

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Speaker 1: give me. I made out with a girl in college,

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Speaker 1: for sure. But also a lot of people told me,

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Speaker 1: um that I was giving them power lesbian. Oh you

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Speaker 1: guys don't get any power lesbian me. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not shout out to the whole LGBT a cute community,

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Speaker 1: love y'all. But a lot of people get super powerless bean.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a strong women. They don't. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's even like it's it's just ameanor like us. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: I look like you actually like a relaxed lesbian. I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm not like a pillow, a pillow princess crazy.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't really care for heads. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm the one who eats everyone in the bed, whether

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Speaker 1: it's you're a worker baby, Yes, that is actually me.

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Speaker 1: I'm never a pillow princess. I do want to say, Um,

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Speaker 1: I am, how did you go here? Already about the way,

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Speaker 1: already welcome to horrible decision, Welcome to horrible decisions. I

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Speaker 1: do want to say, however, I am a little envious

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Speaker 1: of you, um and y'all. Before the camera's cut on,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so jealous, eany you just look

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Speaker 1: like a wife, and I feel weasy to pot like hose,

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Speaker 1: even though weey swear she don't really look like oh

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Speaker 1: she thinks she little white be material. But then you

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Speaker 1: come in and we're like, no, we look like the

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Speaker 1: hose and you look like no. No, have either of

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Speaker 1: y'all been married? No? No? No, okay, so no no,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna share you. I think I'm older a

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Speaker 1: little bit than both of you, So let Auntie give

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Speaker 1: y'all some first gyms. I have been brish, I have

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Speaker 1: gave us ring pops in her swag bag. I love that,

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Speaker 1: So I have a ring pop for you, says Okay,

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Speaker 1: she proposed to me. She proposed with a ring pop

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Speaker 1: ring y'all know, but that Kelly Price you want to

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Speaker 1: say at age? No, No, I'm Auntie age. We are,

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Speaker 1: y'all are definitely if y'all don't know about that Kelly

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Speaker 1: rate Cayden keeping. Oh maybe I can't sing. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: have to do me like that many So anyway, back

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Speaker 1: to what wives and what hos look like. By the way,

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Speaker 1: don't have to do you have a good boy and look,

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Speaker 1: yeah it was right quality. Come join us like we got. Okay,

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Speaker 1: briefly married in my late twenties. Uh, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: In and out within a year. I call it my

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Speaker 1: marriage requires, I believe from my experience, a lot of sex.

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Speaker 1: So if you were projecting an aesthetic, ladies, please pay

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Speaker 1: attention that says that you are skimmish about sex, prudish

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Speaker 1: about sex. You actually are not looking to be a wife.

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Speaker 1: You're looking to be a oh mate, So just get

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Speaker 1: that out of your mind. I think there's a misconception

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Speaker 1: at air. I think it's also generational. I think it's

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Speaker 1: like when you're young, you think that like, oh, let

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Speaker 1: me look buttoned up and polished and all that ship

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Speaker 1: to look wifely. No men want their wives to funk them.

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Speaker 1: That is like a part wifely duties. Right, it's a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Don't ever, ever, ever stop having sex

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Speaker 1: in your man Okay, So let me ask you then

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Speaker 1: conversation where I believe Steve Harvey ruined dating for a

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Speaker 1: saying the complete opposite, and as a woman, so I

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Speaker 1: like takes advice from Steve hard Let's be clear, um,

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Speaker 1: I think we really believe in that. It's not I

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Speaker 1: don't believe in sex without monogamy. But once I decide

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Speaker 1: a double standard. Oh so this is this story. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So this was with my expience. We you're my man now,

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Speaker 1: I said, no, listen, this is a true story. I've

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Speaker 1: But here I don't think youbody heard it. So here

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Speaker 1: So we had been dating maybe two months. We had

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Speaker 1: not with a hard age. Horrif so we do the deed,

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Speaker 1: it was great. Do the deed all right, ebony, legal deed.

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Speaker 1: Like the legal deed. We executed a deed. No look

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Speaker 1: at me trying to do little. We did the thing.

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Speaker 1: We had our little sex capaid um, and it was

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Speaker 1: it was absolutely good, only to get better. Because that's

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Speaker 1: my experience, I think if the sex starts good, it's

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Speaker 1: sex is not given what it was given, what it was,

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Speaker 1: what it was given. Sometimes people get lazy. Women do too.

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Speaker 1: I have women do to thing about it, how many

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Speaker 1: Work your way up to that, because so you're saying

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily. I feel like most guys do that though,

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Speaker 1: go together. We're in exclusive monoguous relationship. Otherwise continue to

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Speaker 1: see other people and I can too, but then that

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Speaker 1: That's how you begin rings. Bitch, damn, I need wait wait,

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Speaker 1: wait so real quick. I do want to, but it's

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Speaker 1: like they want a monogoruous relationship. Everybody's not looking for that.

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Speaker 1: I want, I want now, and like we just want

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Speaker 1: want to comment. I just also want a wife be

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Speaker 1: but commitment, but also like I want commitment, but all

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Speaker 1: my babies. But like maybe if I want to suck

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Speaker 1: somebody else one day, I could. Okay, Well, people have

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Speaker 1: whole marriages like that, your marriages I want, we want

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Speaker 1: whole marriages, whole, but whole marriages as well. Hilarious. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you negotiate the terms of your marriage. I mean I

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Speaker 1: Hollywood especially. This is going on in bedrooms across America.

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Speaker 1: So I'll just say shout out Smith and Ja Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean exactly that, Smith, And do you ever work

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Speaker 1: on prenups I have, which we're not there yet, I

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Speaker 1: guess will do it now. Yeah, I want to ask

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Speaker 1: the question, like family, yes, people, have people ever had

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Speaker 1: in a prenup something that had to do with sex. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: sex is what I've most frequently seen, like kind of

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Speaker 1: about to you. You a fenty ambassador, we all see

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Speaker 1: you with some link bit essence article. I was like,

421
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Speaker 1: ohly ship, Yeah, the first time my personal life is

422
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: being discussed, which I get, Wenna get there. So I

423
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Speaker 1: did want to have the conversation again, as some of

424
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Speaker 1: you guys may know, uh they legalized or decriminalized. I

425
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Speaker 1: want to know the difference partially partially prostitution in New

426
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: York um. So we've talked about prostitution being legal in

427
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: places like Nevada, um where there's brothels and things like that. However,

428
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Speaker 1: before we get into this, what is the difference between

429
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Speaker 1: legalization and decriminalization, because I feel like that's what I've

430
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Speaker 1: been reading in the article and they go back and

431
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Speaker 1: forth and I'm not sure if they mean the same

432
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: thing at all. Yeah, they really do. But it's like semantics, right,

433
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: So when somebody says it's been decriminalized, like we're hearing

434
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: that about marijuana recently, right, So that means what used

435
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: to be deemed statutorially on the record books as a

436
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: violation of law is no longer deemed such. Not want

437
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: to be careful here what we talk about this new

438
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: semi partial decriminalization of prostitution, because it's not statutory yet, y'all,

439
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: so people still means that means, Okay, I feel like

440
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: we're about to go to school house lock right all

441
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: the story because I think about it. So let's use

442
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: our context clues, right, So, statutory rape normally refers to

443
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: when you've not been forcibly raped. It's it's a consensual

444
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: sexual act, but it's deemed statutory because of the age

445
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: on the book. So it's by the letter of the law,

446
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: it's deemed illegal, not necessarily that all right, So let's

447
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: go back to statutory prostitution on the books, it is

448
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: still very much illegal to have any exchange of money

449
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: or commerce for consensual or non consensual sex acts. So

450
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: that's important, and I want everybody liking y'all. That's why

451
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: a lot of these organizations and coalitions around truly fully decriminalize,

452
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: decriminalizing sex work and prostitution and solicitation are still aggressive

453
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: despite this new policy. See now we're talking about a

454
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: policy that this particular district Attorney Suvance in Manhattan, he's

455
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: just decided not to prosecute. See the difference. God you,

456
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: So the law is still on the books but is

457
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: still illegal, but you can't go to jail for it,

458
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: only because he is just choosing. See what I'm saying.

459
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about prosecutorial discretion. So that means once

460
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Speaker 1: he's out of office, because Sivance is not running again.

461
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: So this is like governor desientists who in Florida. He's

462
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: a Florida governor is saying is that he won't prosecute

463
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: people who aren't wearing masks. Correct, So now we're talking

464
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: about the issue of So he is making that decision,

465
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: he's making that decision, and once he leaves office, that

466
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: prosecution is still at play and it's up to the

467
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: next person that assumes the wrong. So it's not really,

468
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: it is not right, it's not don't believe the hype. Basically, um,

469
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: I think it's great. So you can still get arrested,

470
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: You can still get arrested, you will not be arrested

471
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Speaker 1: under Sivances administration. Now, I want to also give you

472
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: some more good news though. So far, all of the

473
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Speaker 1: other candidates, and there's a lot of them that are

474
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Speaker 1: running to replace Sivan's in dash here in Manhattan, have

475
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: all said they're gonna go further than Sivans. Not only

476
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: are they not going to prosecute um the people selling

477
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 1: uh sex work per se, they're also not gonna penalize

478
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: or criminalize the purchasers of sex work. We were further

479
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: them is John's in the business aint. We call them tricks,

480
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: you know. So now says if you bi sex, you

481
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Speaker 1: can be prosecuted even under Sivans. If you're selling sex,

482
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Speaker 1: you cannot be. Oh you will not be I should

483
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: say all these new d as are saying fun the bullshit.

484
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Speaker 1: We want to fully decriminalized I decriminalized. That's hard word

485
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: to say, sex work. And we will not prosecute buyers

486
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: nor sellers of sex and they will support legislative episode.

487
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: That's the key takeaway for all these ship sounds like

488
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: a bunch of mumbo jumbo beach to the point we

489
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: need to keep the pressure on legislatively when we need

490
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: the state assemblies and eventually federal legislators. So that's congressmen

491
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: and women in U. S. Senators to decriminalize sex works.

492
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: That's the only way it will be consistent across the board.

493
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: No one ever will ever be arrested again for unlicensed massage,

494
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: selling sex, or buying sex. And that's the goal, cause

495
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: sex work is work. And funk out of here on

496
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Speaker 1: your of course, yeah dustn't and I had a full

497
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Speaker 1: episode actually meant like because the women that some of

498
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: the women on Real Housewives are very conservative, oh even

499
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: about a real housewive, like like do your stance on

500
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: that in saying sex work is real work, especially being

501
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: on the show with entrepreneurs and wives and people who

502
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Speaker 1: may look down on sex workers. Is the conversation that

503
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: we can maybe see what you will see. Um, well,

504
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: you know Lee is my cast made and shout out

505
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: to leva tween and she that's like literally her tagline

506
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: this year is um sex positive BS negative. So she's

507
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of shift from these women because she's

508
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: very outspoken in her sexuality with yes, all those things

509
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: so next episode or the week after, I think this

510
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: episode for lou Anne and I get into a conflict,

511
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: will call it around these notions of respectability, politics and

512
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: vulgarity and what kind of women should you know? What

513
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: terms like if you were too liberal for that arena,

514
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: Well you'll see how the ship goes down. Because my

515
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: thing is, it's so funny. Actually, I'm glad we were

516
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: talking about this because I know I present a certain

517
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: way and present a certain way. Looked like I want

518
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: to propose to you right now with your little wife,

519
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: because she said you were giving what we still a

520
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: pup bitch. I'll takeing care of your girl. You might

521
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: just taking care of me. You might be taking care

522
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: of whatever. Y'all coordinated code she got on rare bottom

523
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about But I'm on your show, so

524
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: it's all good. It's all good, sisters. But yeah, so

525
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: this notion of women that look a certain way, have

526
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: a certain level of education, have a certain level of

527
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: societal standing, shouldn't say these things, or shouldn't um speak

528
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: in these ways, or even shouldn't carry themselves in what

529
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: I believe is like, for instance, a lot of people

530
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: are mad at me because I've said that, I said

531
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the word bitch a lot, I heard a lot. I

532
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: have a big potty mouth, um, and I'm hearing a

533
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of women black, white and other. You know, to

534
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: be such an educated young lady, it's a shame you

535
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: choose to use that language in you know, here's what

536
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: I say to that comments and suffer yeah, and my

537
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: comments and my d m s and you know it's

538
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: like this, I respect your position. You need to get

539
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: the funk out of here because I have earned the

540
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: right to use whatever fucking vernacular I choose to. And

541
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: I can hit you with statutory the fucking policy and

542
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: Iraan what's going on with the nuclear deal and all

543
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: of that, and I can cut you the funk out,

544
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. So what we're not

545
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna do. It's like a ball and right, that's nuclear,

546
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: But we're not we're not gonna shame women. And Leah

547
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: and I really we don't funk with that. We're not

548
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna shame women around their choice of how they choose

549
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: to carry themselves and make ignorant presumptions around their knowledge

550
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: base based off of their their choice to lean in

551
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: or out of their vulgarity sexuality or anything. There's so

552
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: much uh sorry, go ahead. I had to get that off.

553
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 1: There's welcome with them, like I've I've seen people talk

554
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: about her and her daughter when they TikTok together and

555
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: they have fun together, and um, we both have very

556
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: open moms and we've had them on our show. And

557
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: I really feel like that's why I don't get pregnant right,

558
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: Like my mom was so open, but then we had

559
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: shut up, shut up. I can't stand, y'all. I can't

560
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: say I saw. I just saw the most baby early.

561
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: So the meme I saw the other day, y'all, and

562
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: normally I'm you know, I have a ridiculous dress sense

563
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: of humor. Not a lot shakes to me. I was like,

564
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: oh they really think I don't know who it was, y'all.

565
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: It was somebody that was like, he's our baby daddy today.

566
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Speaker 1: To bit you just did, I was like, you might

567
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: have been at your page. I was like, I'm done.

568
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I felt bad. That is true, you just camp it.

569
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm done. I saw Mothers Day. Damn, some of y'all

570
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: you can say mother Day today. Let me not be

571
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: problematic because I was gonna say, we were so open

572
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: to be able to talk to our moms with things

573
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: get help. And I feel like not saying that whatever

574
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: happened with Kiki, that's Leah's daughter's name. I'm just saying

575
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: I could see them having such a better bond when

576
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: it comes to when she does get into the age

577
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: where she starts dating and and things, and I think

578
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: it's so important. I think it works that way. I

579
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: think Gloria told me I was going straight to the hill.

580
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if there was any and it worked that

581
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: way for me too, you know, so I think and listen.

582
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: I also think kids are their own individuals. I think

583
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: so much of it is just they're gonna do what

584
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. So I kind of think these extremes

585
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: of parenting. I don't know. I'm not a parent yet.

586
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: We'll see. My mother was very like, oh no, I

587
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: can very much be like on the kids. Okay, you'll

588
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: get to in the essence piece. Yeah, I want to.

589
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know this, this is

590
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: it's already been a problematic episode. We get more problematic.

591
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: Just stay tuned. Yeah, but like, yeah, so I don't

592
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: think personally weasy. I don't know if there's a rhymar

593
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: reason I think the whole being super open and come

594
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: to me when you're ready to have sex, and we'll

595
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: go get the birth control and then we'll, you know,

596
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: I'll bring out the banana and teach you how to

597
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: properly uh what you call? Did you men? I still

598
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: don't know how to put a condomn on a dick

599
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: reservoir tip the other day and he was like, I'm like, oh,

600
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: I guess I just because it was big and I

601
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: know you need to leave the air too. And then

602
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I spell it, but I was trying

603
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: to be like hot and put it on and then

604
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: it just spread it. He was like, I will, I

605
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: will say what you just said. I'm so glad you

606
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: brought forth to it, because a little bit of that

607
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: was how and why we started this show. We had

608
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: met um for those of y'all who go back and

609
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: maybe or aren't familiar with how we met. We met

610
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: after not speaking for about five years. But we were

611
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: both in different spaces of our life. I was in

612
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: school working for Golden Sacks, and she, you know, was

613
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: an account executive for a tech company. And when we met,

614
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: she also had a sugar daddy and I was still

615
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: getting flewed out. So we was like, damn, we're still smart,

616
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: we read books, we have real good jobs, and we're

617
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: still being horse. And we felt that it was important

618
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: that a lot of women, you know, despite whether you're

619
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: in school, getting masters and bachelors or any type of education,

620
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: in work in corporate or or literally taking care of yourself,

621
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: you can do so and be respected but still indulge

622
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: in the sexuality and things that you joy, and you

623
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: could still be who you are. I think, you know,

624
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: change to like you know, Louianna you just mentioned is

625
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot older, and we know she did her whole

626
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: countess thing. And I think that the way the world

627
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: has changed, with being so modern and being so open,

628
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: we will see that start to develop. Like I think,

629
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: only differences as we're talking about it. I mean, as

630
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Leah says in the Tailor, which is accurate, they're all hoos.

631
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: We're all like, I mean, you know, it's true. You know,

632
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: everyone's having a sexual experience of some sort, whether it's

633
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: with yourself, whether it's with multiple partners. What is the

634
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: definition of Yeah, what are we even talking about? What

635
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the fund is a whore? What is a whole? Like?

636
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: What you know that's such a loose We did a

637
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: post legal type of prostitution. Okay, we did a post

638
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: um God, I think I did this three years ago

639
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: because someone like hurt my feelings with something and I

640
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: was like, why did they call me that? And I

641
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: was like, why is it hurting when someone else calls

642
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: me that? But not when we're saying it from promiscus.

643
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: We got it so a whole fight because I called

644
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: a promiscuous she said, I am not. I said, but

645
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: you just said you got nutted in and went to

646
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: another niggata eat it all for something like that, Mandy,

647
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: you did, But I loved them, so she thought, because

648
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: she thought because there were feelings for these men that

649
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: she was says there was a definition. We looked it up.

650
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: It said something about just like with no care or

651
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: no emotion or something. Oh I'm glad you guys brought

652
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: this up. Now I'm thinking about it. You know, Auntie

653
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: is a little older. He excuse me. We get into

654
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: a serious debate on this season the Housewives and in

655
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: this Hampton's arc about what friends with benefits means um

656
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: and you guys are gonna see this, so it's like

657
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: it's it's Sonya and Lu and I put my twoth

658
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: in out there and I just I just don't believe

659
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: in sex shaming other women. Like if this woman wants

660
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: to have sex, um whoever, whatever, and that is her

661
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: comfort now in your business, you know what I mean?

662
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Like that is and and like for Sonya, as you'll

663
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: see her friends would benefit. She'll have her friends with

664
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: benefits for ten years. That's me, you know what I mean.

665
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: They're not in a relationship, but they have a sexual

666
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: compatibility and it gives I love it. That's me that well.

667
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: And I like I was still up until this current relationship,

668
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: I was sucking men that I was working in high school.

669
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: Like that's so crazy to me. She can't believe it.

670
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: But it's niggas that like from ten years ago, like

671
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: in mind you like I just turned thirty, So yeah,

672
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: I've been with my man. You know, she she took

673
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: that body away. I'm very much. I'm very much like

674
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: I love it. But what is a hole? What? It

675
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: had four hundred comments of people so diffused. Some people

676
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: said prostitutes, the one it's selling sex someone to the

677
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: girl who's lose, someone who's and it was like, we

678
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: really don't know, and I think the reclaiming of that word,

679
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: which is funny when she said you're all hoses, no

680
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: one really knows, and a lot of there are a

681
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: lot of hose that just don't present his hose. I mean,

682
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: can we tell a true no man, but you present

683
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: it such like girl, let me get on one knee

684
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: right now. And I just never I wasn't having sex

685
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: and there wasn't an aura of sexual prowess to me.

686
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: Nobody would actually want to marry me. Do you get that, Mandy?

687
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be in a sexless marriage. And when

688
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: you start dating older man, I don't know how the

689
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: oldest what's the oldest man you've ever dated? My man?

690
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: Right now? How's the old Okay, I've dated. The oldest

691
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: man I've ever dated is fifty eight. And then but

692
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm older than you. I'm almost ten years older than you.

693
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: You gotta remember, Okay, So therefore I have a seven

694
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: seen or girl. When you're talking about men who are

695
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: in their later fifties who are mostly coming out of

696
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: their first or second marriage, most of them are divorcing

697
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: their first wives because they were having sex with them.

698
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm they're traumatized from these sexless fucking marriages.

699
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: It ain't sexless because I with mad married niggas. They

700
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: were getting sex, but not from their wives. Oh yeah, fat,

701
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm it was getting sex. That's the number one thing

702
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: I find that these older men are looking for. They

703
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: are looking for a sexually active, fluid relationship. And look

704
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: at the sugar daddy dynamics. Yeah, they want you to

705
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: only be having sex with them, but they want a

706
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: lot of sex, you know what. I feel like a

707
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: lot of men want women because they also have checked boxes.

708
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Like I remember, and I talked about this on the show.

709
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: I went out with a friend of mine and it

710
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: was me and two of my friends, and he literally

711
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: sat there and said, because of the shapes of our

712
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: bodies and what we exude, he doesn't feel like he

713
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: could bring me home. But the other girl, who mind you,

714
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: my homegirl had all the sugar daddy is super sell

715
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: in the box. She has a more uh, I guess

716
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: persona that doesn't read sex or that. And so this

717
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: has been a conversation as well where men want to

718
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: take off and feel like they can bring their women

719
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: around their family or the church or different things because

720
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: it looks good. But yeah, yeah, they're not fulfilled. That's

721
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: that's I think a lot of the men picked their

722
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: first wives based on that ship. They're picking somebody that

723
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: is aesthetically pleasing to everybody. But but and then the

724
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: second time, and I'm glad we're laying the foundation more

725
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: what we're about to get into. You know, I just

726
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: actually had a thought of some of my friends sent

727
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: to me when we're talking about what is a home

728
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: shout out to Brittany. We were going out that night

729
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: on FaceTime with some dude. I'm talking to just one

730
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: of the and she was like, oh, you know, we're

731
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: about to go be hosed And he was like, what

732
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: does that mean? And she was like, it told me,

733
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: we're really gonna be home. It just mean we don't

734
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: have whole energy. We're gonna be talking and ship. We're

735
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna be talking, and then we don't go home. You'll

736
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: be making out with your friends. Uh that my friends,

737
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: my friends. I fu women that I want to like.

738
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: I don't like, you know, I don't like doing that line. Why.

739
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: I just want to know an out and be like, oh,

740
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna go be host tonight, but you're really not

741
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: holding But see No, that is where you have your

742
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: own definition. When I told my man I was out

743
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: with my friend and then I spent the night, he

744
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: knew we fucked and I didn't out, but he was like,

745
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: does he consider that cheating? If you have sex mean

746
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: you being a hole? Though? I mean I had set.

747
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: When I say I'm going to go be a home,

748
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: it means I'm going at the club and I'm gonna

749
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: be on some bird ship. You're gonna look at my stories,

750
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: gonna be like that's what it looks like. That's when

751
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: I say I'm gonna be a whole, like I'm out

752
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: bro see. I think it's just a difference in age

753
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: because I don't go back there because I like in

754
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: school in law school, Like there are people that you know,

755
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: see me now and see my career and they're like, wow,

756
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: I can't we give the same epony. And I've always

757
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: been the same way. It's just a bit just tired.

758
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing all that what you're talking about, dad,

759
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: So I'll come and talk to me all that fifty

760
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: years ago, you know. Seriously, when I was twenty, when

761
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: I you know, I just barely missed the window for

762
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: freakneck o you're kind not made it through college if

763
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: you really took it, think about it. No, I had

764
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: a good ass time in college. If you really would

765
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: engage in the freakneck who knows that actual freakneck in Inlands?

766
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Fair enough? But I had enough great hall parties and

767
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: that you had New York at its prime. I'm knowing

768
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 1: what I wasn't in. You know I was in the South,

769
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah? Um Chapel Hill, excuse me, your tar

770
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: Heel Tario good duke, look you, but you didn't really

771
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: go there though? Nobody don't you do it? Actually waits

772
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: a duke? It's okay, Yeah, go ahead and buy that

773
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: stank and as duke t shirt at the Walmart and

774
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: keep it cute. Man. Actually, wait a second. Every single

775
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: I didn't I don't think I was gonna get mad

776
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: in here. I did get but listen, every time I

777
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: have a layover in the Charlotte Airport, that's where I

778
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: get my duke at tired. Okay, And just anybody that's

779
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: been the Duke's sections this fucking day, we're not okay.

780
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: And the tar Heel ship is like my goods just said,

781
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: um not Walmart, the airport, I think it was a

782
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: step up airport, go to our horde where we get

783
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: into our horrible decisions. So the horrid derb. I want

784
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: to ask both of y'all. Um, I wanted to give

785
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: tips today on how to be intimate with your partners

786
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: without penetration. I know there's a lot of women who

787
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: we talked about sex almost being a duty, and we'll

788
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit more in terms of marriages.

789
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: But what act physically or emotionally have you done with

790
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: your partner that is still intimate but does not include penetration.

791
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: I want to start, or you can start, wait because

792
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: you got one. Go ahead, Evany, let's start with you sometimes.

793
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: But it came to me, Um, I guess, uh, synchronized masturbation. Oh,

794
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: here we go. Look, it was new for me in

795
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: my last relationship, and I thought it was very cool

796
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: when you guys retired or no, it was honestly was

797
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: when we wanted to be like extra nasty. Yeah, no,

798
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: for sure, it is. It's like yeah, yeah, So it's

799
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be a porn star. Let out

800
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: my porn star energy when you believe it there where

801
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: y'all watching, just see it, and I'm like let's see,

802
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to get market right right, I'll let you

803
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: go talk to me. That's the name of the restaurant, like, oh,

804
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: I love the name home. That's where we're going. Yeah.

805
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: I did want to say something that I've recently been doing.

806
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: What be going to my how you know what I mean?

807
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: So something that me and my partner do and I

808
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: think that you know. So, I've been recently taking bar.

809
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: So I'm doing bar. Oh my god, it's like yoga

810
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: but with like a ballet ship. Oh a r R

811
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: got it, bitch, my body hurt, baby. But I'm like,

812
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: I've just been like your flexibility. No, So I'm working

813
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: on my flexibility. So I'm doing bar and then I

814
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: do cardio as well. And something that I really appreciate

815
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: that he does is that doesn't include penetration. He lays

816
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: me on top of him and he literally stretches my

817
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: whole body so I'll be on top of him, and

818
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: he pulls my legs all the way back and stretches that.

819
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Then he'll take my arms and pull them all the

820
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: way back, and so as I'm on top of him.

821
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: After workout thing, this is in the morning after sex.

822
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: This is also just when we're just laying down and

823
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: he's like, let me just stretch you. And it's something

824
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: that is just like I feel so good, Like I

825
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 1: literally moan while he does. But it's like he knows

826
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: I've been working out, and he even was like, let

827
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: me come down to your gym and make sure you're

828
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: doing the right ship because I don't need you losing

829
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: certain things that I like this there, but he knows

830
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: I've been working out, and I just you know, and

831
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: he'll just stretch me, and so I lay on top

832
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: of him and he just, you know, he's athletic, so

833
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows these little athletes. Um a little

834
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: over a year now and it's been great, but he

835
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: loves that I'm getting now back into just being more

836
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: active and he just stretches me, and I'm like, oh

837
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: my god, I've never had a person she never had

838
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: a trainer is a training old. I used to fun

839
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: models and trainers, and I never had someone like this

840
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: is training one on one but but but that but

841
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: in a way where we're not in the gym, we're

842
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: not on the phiore, and it's just like it could

843
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: definitely be sexy too. Let me tell you when I

844
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: get stretched out, shout out to my trainer Gino, who

845
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: really has a brother ly vibe to me. We haveing

846
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: friends for a long time, but every time he stressed me,

847
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh my goodness, he's just beauty turned off.

848
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: And also, stretching is so sexual. By the way, anyone

849
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: who ever uses services like this is a totally professional person. Um.

850
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: But I think I, in my head thinks stretching is

851
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: so sexual. I think massages are sexual. The white on

852
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: the right, the way the way I be sage of

853
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: my nigga, you be like, okay, So I go lower

854
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: back and then I go like hips. And then when

855
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: I get them cheeks and I started spreading them, I

856
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: start my thumb going in. I'm just saying I loves

857
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: all right, welcome now, guys, to the horrible decision here.

858
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: I did want to talk about clearly again, we've talked

859
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: about you looking like a wife. You've been engaged, you've

860
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: been married. I wanted to talk about the rules of

861
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: or maybe the duties of a housewife and compare it

862
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: to the modern day woman, um. But also what we

863
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: expect um and something that I did want to bring up.

864
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: I guess before we start there. Um, there is a

865
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: negative connotation currently with housewife. Um, you are a lawyer,

866
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: you have all of these brands and platforms. Now you

867
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: would be considered a modern day woman, which Kevin Samuels

868
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: actually says is our downfall a lot is that the

869
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: modern day woman is not prepared to be a wife

870
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: because we're so overly independent. How is Kevin, I'm really interesting, right,

871
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: It's an interesting catalyst for a deeper, more important conversation.

872
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm very seriously funny. So this is. But I don't

873
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: listen to a ton of Kevin because I do think

874
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: sometimes he'd be right about some of these women expectations,

875
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Like I get it, But I don't think that anybody,

876
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: especially that looks the way that he does, can get

877
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: on anyone's Internet and tell women how they asked him.

878
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: But way way. It's the same way we say he's

879
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: knowing it. Now it's a spectacle, and now he's able

880
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: to make money from demeaning black It's the same way

881
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: we said, no one in this room listens to uh

882
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, but people do just to mean black men

883
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: too when they called on like he had this one

884
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: dude under here. It doesn't matter but he'll do this.

885
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: I do think he's equal opportunity. Like, dude, you're like

886
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: five six, you're overweight dollars a year, and you talk

887
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: about you want to tend bro where you know. I

888
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you as as a woman, who is

889
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: I would consider despite you being untie aged, like you said,

890
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: you are a modern day woman. You own businesses and

891
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: you're growing. There's no there's no ceiling to what you

892
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: can do either. However, you do still have a lot

893
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: of powerful, wealthy men, which is what I think a

894
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: lot of us seek, who want the housewife, who don't

895
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: want you to do anything. So I wanted to talk

896
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: about that a little bit before we get into as well,

897
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: you're positioning in men's lives. Yes, um, but yeah, talk

898
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: to us about about that. I think it's a real

899
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: conflict of interest. It's the best way to describe it,

900
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: because you're right, I think a lot of I thought,

901
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: and I think I still think, but I'm open to

902
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: being corrected on this. That the answer because before my

903
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: ex fiance, all the men outdated I was the breadwinner

904
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: like significantly so and that was fine because you know whatever,

905
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: like we said, sugar mom, Okay, I was gonna be

906
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: stuck about, but like too making two or three times

907
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: what they made, and that that was fine. Um just

908
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: because my well, my gord, when you make a lot

909
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: of money and you're in a certain bracket though, like

910
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: it's hard working, you know, bullshit jobs. It's just they

911
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: were in different fields. You know, I was at a firm.

912
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: I was still remember doctors are only making like once.

913
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes they look at you. Can you not say one

914
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: fifty ain't ship. I'm just people listening to doctor. That's

915
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: not ship. It's not not ship when you have three

916
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars worth that school. I'm sorry. I never

917
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: when I was younger and millions did too. I'm in

918
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: shock at what doctor's name. My friends, my friends doctor

919
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: will make millions. But well good, It's just like lawyers,

920
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: I know, dollar, your lawyers million dollar or your lawyers.

921
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: So insane with doctors, you're right, sist. It's like some

922
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: do make and some make three million because they're stay agents.

923
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Their cardio basket and this, and man, I'm not shooting

924
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: on someone making fifty. It is really that that pay

925
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: is way too low for that job, and that pay

926
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: is could we just be honest that is a hard

927
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: way to live in New York City if you're accustomed

928
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: to a certain lifestyle. And I'm just gonna say that

929
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: that's a fact. So whatever. Um. Back to the men

930
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: with money, Yes, a lot of them say that they

931
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: want a Clare Huxtable type. They want a Michelle Obama.

932
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: They want somebody that's going out here getting it like

933
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: they're getting it. But they do not really want That

934
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: has been my experience, because they do expect you to

935
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: get in where you fit in to a life that

936
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: they have already curated. Um from them deciding where y'all

937
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: are gonna live, where you're gonna go to vacation, where,

938
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: how the builds are just whatever, um. And I want

939
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: to be in control. They do want to be in control,

940
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: but they don't And they say they want a partner.

941
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: And I think you can control some women willingly. I

942
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: don't think that's a bad thing. I want to be

943
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: very clearly. There are plenty of women that like it

944
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot. Some women like it because they don't have

945
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: another way to live that lifestyle. Let's just tell the truth.

946
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm too busy to make decisions.

947
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: That's a different thing, though. What you're talking about is correct.

948
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: You're talking about an optionality portion. I'm talking about women

949
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: that are dependent on that man's ability to curate a

950
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: lifestyle they would never otherwise even have access. And I

951
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: think that those men that want that should be with

952
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: those kind of women. Lee and I have actually been

953
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: talking about this. She's gonna be mad, But Lee and

954
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: I've been talk about this recently. Some of these men

955
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: that we're being set up with through these you know,

956
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: wealthy social life friends of ours. We go out with

957
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: these men, and these men are confused about their market value.

958
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: These are men that make a little bit of change.

959
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: They might have a little house in Greenwich, they might

960
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: drive a four door autie and they out here thinking

961
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: they ball it out of control. And they really think

962
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: that women like us who make our own significant means

963
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: are gonna be are gonna be like your dad, I

964
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: don't give up, Like what what what life was like?

965
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: Maybe I really think it must be like I don't

966
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: know if I've seen this many women entrepreneurs five ten

967
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: years ago. I've already talked about the amount of money

968
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: I make with some people and they're like no, really yeah,

969
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: and they won't believe it or I was on a

970
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: date drink thing kind of with this guy who was

971
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: saying something about me needing to have um a partner, like, oh,

972
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: you know when you guys get a summer home. I said, honey,

973
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: I've been looking at property in Miami already, right, how

974
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 1: can have one alone? That you were talking about getting

975
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: cribin in Atlanta? Yeah? Why wouldn't we be able to do?

976
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: They're very confused because there was a general not too

977
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: long ago, let's be clear, where women of all races,

978
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: but particularly women of color, would never have had the

979
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: financial access that we enjoy because we've worked for it,

980
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: to be clear. But they're not accustomed to it. So

981
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: they really are out here. Most of them come out

982
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: of a first or second marriage, and they're thinking that

983
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: they got monopoly money to spend, and they think that

984
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: they're supposed to get a batty with a great job,

985
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: and they were supposed to be oh so excited about

986
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: their mediocre ass like to it's the idea of being

987
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: excited about money, cars, homes that essentially I have access to.

988
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: So you think that I'm supposed to fall over you

989
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: because these are the things you have, but they're not

990
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: things that are mine. That you're giving to me, and

991
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: so the times it used to be the goal though man, yeah,

992
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: and again it's seen everything is different now. A generation

993
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: ago that that would be yours. That's what women were

994
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: marrying for. They were marrying to say, I can't afford

995
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: a summer home by myself ever, but if I marry

996
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: this man, you can't. Even Let's build on the control

997
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: part for a moment. If you have an Essence article

998
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: that came out, they could someone say, could make you

999
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: look controlling. Oh yes, people are saying heine conversation and

1000
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: so so, guys, there has been For those of you

1001
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: who are not hip on what's happening with Real Housewives

1002
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: of New York. Um, though Ebony is on there, she

1003
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: did call off her engagement, so she is not currently

1004
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: tied to anyone, which is why she said she's being

1005
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: set up. Um. But Essence wrote an article and says

1006
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: that the Real Housewives of New York newby understands that

1007
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: kids come first. Um. However, she says that she needed

1008
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: to be first. So the article pretty much paints the

1009
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: picture that you called off your engagement because this man

1010
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: chose his kids over you. Now, there is a lot

1011
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: of dialogue with that, especially when you're dating older men. Yes,

1012
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: you're coming into oftentimes them having a previous family, you

1013
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: possibly having to address the ex wife or ex baby mom,

1014
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: or you know, the mother period. Can you go into

1015
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: that a little bit, because that is a little problematic

1016
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: A little bit. I totally respected, I respect everybody's opinion

1017
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: that the kids should come first, and I actually divinely

1018
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: disagree with that, and I know that I have an

1019
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: unpopular minority of cases. I believe in the divine order.

1020
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: I believe it's God spouse kids. I don't have a

1021
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: funk whose kids they are. I don't care if there

1022
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: are kids we brought into the world together. I don't

1023
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: care if they're the kids you have with your ex wife,

1024
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: your baby mama, or three moments ago. I truly believe

1025
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: that is a fundamental problem in American society today. I

1026
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: think all these funking I feel like these kids. I

1027
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: feel like all these kids are out here being treated,

1028
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: many of them, as if they are the center of

1029
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: the universe, as if their their desires and their expectations

1030
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: of life and family are the primary priority. And I

1031
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: think it's really fucking these kids up. I think there's

1032
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: a place for children in society, and I think it

1033
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: is really to be at the guidance and foundational um

1034
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: subordination of the adults in the family. I think there's

1035
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: kids and there's adults. And I believe that any man

1036
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: that is to be my husband has to make me

1037
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: his primary partner and priority and we together, and don't

1038
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: pick me if you don't trust my judgment to build

1039
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: a beautiful, safe and loving family for you and your children.

1040
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: If you don't believe in my ability to do that,

1041
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be your wife anyway, because you're saying you

1042
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: would have accepted those kids into your home. And then

1043
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: in that regard, let's talk about these kids. Okay. First

1044
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: of all, these kids were one team eighteen and thirteen,

1045
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: so two of them were young adults. Okay, so that's

1046
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: thirteen is fine, But two of them were twenty and eighteen.

1047
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: So where I come from, I've been out of the

1048
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: house at sixteen. I was out of the house at eighteen.

1049
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: I was out of house at sixteen. I was at

1050
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: the Great University of North Carolinia Chapel Hill, Mandy at sixteen. Okay,

1051
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: again again shout out to the tar Hills um we're

1052
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna bleep that out. Um, you know. So again, I

1053
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: know that this is not customary my feelings about it,

1054
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: and I just believe that the way I'm able to

1055
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: navigate space as an adult, as an entrepreneur, as a

1056
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: strong businesswoman, it's a strong woman confidence in my blackness

1057
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: and femininity at the same damn time. It is because

1058
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: I was raised by a strong adult. And I just

1059
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: I just think a lot of these parents out here

1060
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: are fucking punks, I really do. And I think they

1061
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: let these kids run over them. The kids are running

1062
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: the households, and the parents, husband's wives, mothers, and fathers

1063
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: are really at the They're deferring to children's leadership within

1064
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: the home, and I think it's a problem. Was he

1065
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: quarantined with their mother as well? No, they're rich. So

1066
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: these people all have different houses. Okay, So their mother

1067
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: is married, been married for ten years to a wonderful man.

1068
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: So they have a huge house in New Jersey. My

1069
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: ex fiance has another huge house in New Jersey, in

1070
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: addition to the house that we shared together in Tribeca.

1071
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: A lot of houses he chose to to quarantine in Tribeca,

1072
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: excuse me. In one of the New Jersey, New Jersey

1073
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: houses without man And when you say quarantine, this isn't

1074
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: ten days, this is this is the duration this was.

1075
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: He left. He came in the room with a backpack

1076
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: on and said, I'm going to Jersey because Cuomo and

1077
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: them saying it's gonna be a lockdown and I won't

1078
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: be able because that's what we had done, and it

1079
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: had worked. Back and forth, of course, back and forth.

1080
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: Of course, I would never stand in the way of

1081
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: a man. That's why I don't like the way those

1082
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: articles were written, implying that I would ever ever put

1083
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: myself in front of a man and his children. That's ridiculous.

1084
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: I would never have the audacity to do that. I

1085
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: will tap out before I do that. So he had

1086
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: successfully up until that point, managed being with his kids

1087
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: every Wednesday night, being with his kids pretty much every

1088
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: weekend because he's just a very active father. Not every

1089
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: other he was every weekend, and it was never a problem. Um.

1090
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: But when the quarantine hit, he went in March and

1091
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: I didn't really see him back in the city until August. Oh,

1092
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, excuse me, wait, wait not the adjustment of

1093
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: the seat. Yes, now, let's get into it. Were you

1094
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: not invited? I was invited. Did he want you to stay?

1095
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: He just saying come by, or did he not say, hey,

1096
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: this is okay. Let me just tell no, that's crazy.

1097
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: March August. He wanted me to come and stay permanently

1098
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: with them in jun Jersey during the warrantine and in

1099
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: the perfect world Ladies who wouldn't want to share at

1100
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: that time with their soon to be husband. We were

1101
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: actually planning a wedding and they're soon to be step kids.

1102
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Goes back to what I was just talking about. Leadership.

1103
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: My ex fiance, wonderful man. Still love him to this day,

1104
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: not in love with him, but love him as a

1105
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: goodass man. We had a fundamental different value system as

1106
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: it relates to children's positioning in the home to me,

1107
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: his oldest children, not the thirteen year old. He was

1108
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: never the problem, sweet little boy. The oldest children ran

1109
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: the household, and I it was not. He did not curate,

1110
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: my ex fiance, did not curate a safe, comfortable environment

1111
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: in that home to where I was comfortable as a

1112
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: grown ass woman who still had to work. I was

1113
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: still doing. They did the culture launching, holding court all

1114
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: this ship for house. I couldn't live there, and because

1115
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: my ex fiance love him to death, he didn't curate

1116
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: an environment where I could be there with them. I

1117
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: had to select myself. And I don't have any other family.

1118
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't have no cousins. I don't have like, I

1119
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: don't have that. I don't have any siblings. My mom

1120
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: was in New Orleans. I had to be in New

1121
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: York for work, so I was by myself. I got COVID.

1122
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: I was sick for six eight weeks moderately, so no, no,

1123
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: I had symptoms. I was sucked up for like six

1124
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: to eight weeks by yourself, by myself. Oh yeah, by myself.

1125
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. He didn't send no soup, he didn't send

1126
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: no nurse, he didn't send anything. Because I get it.

1127
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: He was some and this nigga came over and bathed me. Yea.

1128
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: So for those reasons, I am not trying to make

1129
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: him look like a bad person. He's not. He just

1130
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: is a fundamentally different belief system. He believes that his

1131
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: children are his family, and he never saw me as family,

1132
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: and that's the deeper issue. So I'm not going to

1133
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: enter a whole fucking marriage with a spouse that doesn't

1134
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: identify me as family. I think were these questions, these

1135
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: conversations that were had early, like as far as values,

1136
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: do you feel like women should ask these questions prior?

1137
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: Like how early should these conversations we had them. I'm

1138
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: really glad we're talking about this um and I hope

1139
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: people can learn from it because I learned a lot.

1140
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: So this is where he's definitely not a bad guy.

1141
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: He wasn't looking for a wife. Let me give him

1142
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: that credit. He did not his he knew his kids

1143
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: were still growing up because when I met him as

1144
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: kids where I think like sixteen, fourteen and nine, right,

1145
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: So he wasn't looking for a wife. He wasn't looking

1146
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: to make anyone other than his children his priority. So

1147
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: he's not in the wrong here. I want to be

1148
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: very clear about that. At the time, I was on

1149
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: some Oprah ship. As I said in the first episode

1150
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: of RONDI, I wasn't looking for her husband. Every man

1151
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: I've ever met before him slowed me the funk down,

1152
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: costing ship liabilities in every fucking way. So I wasn't

1153
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: looking for a husband or wanting children either. I grew up, deeply,

1154
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: deeply loved this man. Y'all and seeing him be the

1155
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: father that he is to his kids made me aspire

1156
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: to that relationship, and I was like, damn, this is

1157
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: some special love, this is some beautiful ship. Maybe I

1158
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: do want this. So what happened is short, Mandy, what

1159
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: we want to change? What I want to change. I

1160
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: decided in the course of the four year relationship, I

1161
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: do want to be a wife. My opinion that you changed.

1162
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: When I read the article, I was like, you must

1163
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: have misconstrued her words. Then when you started speaking, I

1164
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, she really means this bullshit? Really then,

1165
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: Chel the end, it made me realize, oh, because you're right,

1166
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: absolutely right. As as women, we should put our work

1167
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: in our career first. Um with oh, Bay who I date.

1168
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: He's a VP at a huge financial entity. He's a

1169
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: great black man, and now he's completely offloaded at that

1170
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: tier to work wherever he wants. So it's like, we're

1171
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: still living in Mexico. Let's live in Mexico, let's do

1172
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: Mexico City, let's keep doing to loom. We'll get a

1173
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: crib here. And I'm like, I'm like, well, now, I

1174
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: mean I have a job offer that's got me back

1175
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: and forth to l a salaried again. I've got a

1176
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: studio here, just got the second one, like I'm not leaving,

1177
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: thank you, and I'm third. Yeah, you know you're in

1178
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: your forties. You're feeling like you're setting this Like if

1179
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: I move with all this ship running, I hold myself back.

1180
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: We'll see. So let's put a pin in that. Because

1181
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: I had a career opportunity come to me maybe year

1182
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: two of our relationship, and this is where I started

1183
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: to push for marriage. I need to know, motherfucker, are

1184
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: you my family? Because before I pass up on this

1185
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: l a big time seven figure job, are you my family?

1186
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Because if you're my family, this is why I'm old fashioned.

1187
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: Funk that job. If you're my family, fuck that job.

1188
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: You're my priority. This is why being number one mutually

1189
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: is important. Okay, and this is why I hold two

1190
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: to this standard. And nobody's gonna get me office. So

1191
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: you can call me a selfish bitch, a raggedy bitch, uh,

1192
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: not understanding bitch, whatever, I'll be all of that, but

1193
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: we have to be family to each other, and we

1194
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: have to be each other's priority. Because if you're not

1195
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: willing to make me your family and your priority, now

1196
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: I have to take that job because I'm not your

1197
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: number one? How the funk you look like? Am I? You?

1198
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: You are a modern day woman and that's I think

1199
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: what a lot of women listening to this. We all

1200
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: want to be Evan. We do. We y'all talking just

1201
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: a minute. I'm just kidd was I was like this crazy? No,

1202
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't. Kids, really hope that people has to read

1203
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: the name of this episode. By the way, kids, I

1204
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: really hope you Williams ever made to people are able

1205
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: to get to this point in the conversation because we

1206
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: we we get a lot of comments where they're like,

1207
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 1: oh my god, I wasn't even able to finish because

1208
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: your guests said that crazy shit, and like even Weezy said,

1209
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this bit really gonna live down

1210
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: this hill on the right. But I don't think that

1211
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: was the most We to never let a guests talk

1212
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: without interrupting, like you keep going right, explain you're saying

1213
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: that this is gonna go somewhere. That was great. Also,

1214
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: I will say he got me really wanted to bench

1215
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: holding court. What is the holding court about? Because you've

1216
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: got Dustin He's so funny, so talented and funny ever

1217
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: is in the marketplace for some vagina. I just want

1218
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: to know I'm first in line and could a deal.

1219
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: I could have sided deal, you could have thought deal.

1220
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: You must not know about our deals. So one might

1221
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: be that's the probably facts. Presidents, presidents, president, we should

1222
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: ask us in what is his type if he had to.

1223
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that, Dustine, I've never asked him. I

1224
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: don't know that he's gold star. I don't know that

1225
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: he's never had a woman sexual. He hasn't look at

1226
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: us we're talking about let me not talk about somebody sexually.

1227
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: All the niggas we have the same type of niggas. Okay, damn,

1228
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him after this podcast, a star, do

1229
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: you have a girl? Do? I? Do you look too? Everybody?

1230
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: I still want to suk us it more well, I

1231
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: will tell you. I actually made a comment about that once,

1232
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: and I read some reviews about how they were like,

1233
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: how uncomfortable do you think it is for a gay

1234
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: man to constantly hear when it's so hard to live

1235
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: in his world that you guys want to him? And

1236
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, sorry, is it hard for him?

1237
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: It's probably annoying. It's probably annoying. I think it's annoying here.

1238
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: It's probably annoying, so I think. But I think also

1239
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: I've been in the can you imagine me as so sexy?

1240
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: I was about to say, but he demands like I've

1241
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: walked in rooms and me and Carlo we did like

1242
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: we went to a club with dust at one time

1243
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: and we just looked. It was like, oh, dust we

1244
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: know you ain't ship the way the ment like people

1245
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: just I'm not going nowhere with Dustins a very condu

1246
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: and he radiates a very welcoming energy energy and I

1247
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: think that that is really the most exciting thing about

1248
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: that person totally, when you meet people that just welcome

1249
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: you and anything. I've seen Dustin a few times this

1250
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: summer during quarantine, and um, I've seen a lot of

1251
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: people that I recognize in the industry, and Dustin is

1252
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: one of the only ones that will always speak to me,

1253
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: hug me, be kind to me, and if a fan

1254
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: comes up to him, be just as war. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with being on Black Effect, was that something curated through

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Speaker 1: Black Effect or did you have a relationship with Dustin.

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01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know Dustin from a can of paint. What

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01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: happened was I was already curating Holding Court pre Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and Charlemagne. You know, we've been in talks for years,

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Speaker 1: but whatever, I was like, call me when the ship

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01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: is real by Charlemagne. Um, to his credit, he did.

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Speaker 1: Did you get the fox? Yeah, all the calls, the

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Speaker 1: call shout out to Charlemagne, Charle Charlemagne, and he did,

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Speaker 1: to his credit. And so by that point I was

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: already going to launch independent and come out of pocket,

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: you know the vibes. Um. But but anyways, it made sense.

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Speaker 1: So I was already looking for a co host wheezy

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: before the Black Effect deal materialized. And my shout out

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Speaker 1: to my dear friendness Sword Natalie Robinson, who was in

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Speaker 1: the first episode of Real Housewives of New York. She's like,

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Speaker 1: my age is a little bit older, but she's got

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01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: she's with the ships, like she keeps her finger on

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01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: the pulse. You know, I'm on my auntie status. She's like, girl,

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01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: did you see this TikTok and my cal no beach?

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01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: I got no TikTok's just like so I saw called her.

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm looking for I said, I want

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: extremely smart, extremely funny, because you know, I can excuse

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01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: serious Uh, I want younger than me, which is hilarious

1279
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: because Dustin's not. I was like, and I don't care

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Speaker 1: about sexuality. Just make him look good, though, because at

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01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: something I want to take this show on the road

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01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: and I make no apologies. At some point I want

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01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: to do concert. Yeah, I need an attractive man. I

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: don't want no ugly fucking man. And um she Dustin

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Speaker 1: Ross was the first name she sent me. She sent

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: me like fifteen, and I clicked on Dustin's I g

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Speaker 1: and I called him immediately and I never talked to

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Speaker 1: anybody else's shout out. We dropped Wednesdays, We dropped every

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Wednesday everything. Yeah, but you don't need to come in.

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01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: We need video. We're gonna go to show some space.

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Speaker 1: Look good, do look good. It might be something people

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: watch on you Just Jack to take it in on

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: just the jack off? I mean, is that is that

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: the threshold? This episode? Jack on a funny when I

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: started to get a lot, man Gan, where does my

1296
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: modesty come in? Right? One thing? Is your show come

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01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: on on TV? Okay? Real Housewives of New York comes

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: on Tuesday nights, nine pm only on Provo. Check out

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: our sister eany I know we were talking about not

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: having other podcasters on for a while the way, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't. But I was like, no, but every

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: gonna come on and then no other we really we know.

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Speaker 1: I love y'all, thank you. I'm really really glad I

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01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: came on. I'm glad you guys gave me the space

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: to talk about my truth because people bad as sucked

1306
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: in the streets. But the way you expect, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that you and that's for me. I'm not saying no,

1308
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: the woman or man has to apply that standard. I

1309
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: learned an important lesson and that's why with my current matchmaker,

1310
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody with no kids that's not grown

1311
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: because the matchmaker. We gotta do Part two. Goddamn it,

1312
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: do the matchmaker? Could the betchmaker come on with you?

1313
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: We gotta do that, y'all actually know the matchmaker probably

1314
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 1: like y'all know that, like there's you know, levels, but

1315
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: like the matchmaker, matchmaker, y'all know, we gotta We'll come back.

1316
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Speaker 1: Dot Com enjoyed the five minutes to tune it into

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: another episode of Horrible Decisions. Then Shroby, what the fund

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Speaker 1: is it? Proby, it's like an Hourly Hotel of Miami.

1319
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: But it's like a sex hotel. There's like mirrors on

1320
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: the ceiling, there's in the room. It's so fucking gross,

1321
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: but it gets the job done. How much was it?

1322
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: That's what tears? Like. The nicest room is like seventy. No, no,

1323
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even listening that bro. Like the nicest is

1324
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: like eighty, y'all would say, for like four hours or

1325
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: some ship like that. He picked me up from my

1326
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 1: house and we got stop. So we met at wingstop

1327
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: somewhere and then such a nigga as story. We met

1328
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: in a wing stole. Now we started fucking. Y'all is

1329
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: from Florida for real? Okay, So hold on, So y'all

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: meet and go to a choby. That's what's called right,

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: It's actually it's on Oka Chobe. The hotel is called

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Speaker 1: Executive Hotel or like Executive Palace or whatever. It's just amy.

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01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: We call it the Chobe because it's on I'm definitely

1334
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: posting Executive Palace. So you guys meet there. This is

1335
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: a year ago, and yeah, we're either of you doing

1336
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: only fans type content. No, we didn't start doing well

1337
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: till like nine months. So once you tell and love. Yeah. No,

1338
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: so that's like that because we were like we were like,

1339
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: knock out everything I want to do now, you know,

1340
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: just get it out the way before we catch feelings

1341
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: and then like figure it out later. But then the

1342
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: exact opposite happened. It was like seven months of us

1343
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: talking and getting to know each other and then once

1344
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: we like ca realized all right, you're not going nowhere.

1345
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere, Like it's like, actually get into

1346
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: the technic. What about So my first time like seeing

1347
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 1: Ali again, I was on Twitter and this girl accidentally

1348
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: posted a picture of her boyfriend's dick. Did y'all have

1349
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: only fans before her or after that? I think he

1350
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: had his only fans and he had like a couple

1351
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: of dick picks up. Um. So it wasn't until after

1352
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: taking He's like, all right, well do you want to

1353
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: do this? And I'm like, yeah, so you started doing

1354
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: an only fans. Tell me what happens when the first

1355
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: person that y'all know, whether it's like family or a friend,

1356
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: is like, what the fund is wrong with you? It

1357
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. It was not a surprise for a

1358
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: lot of my friends. But it's pretty on brain for

1359
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: my close friends, like from people that I know from

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: high school that I'm actually really close with their right,

1361
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: Like we saw you look like you. We couldn't expect

1362
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: those cities this day in your top know, how much

1363
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: time do you dedicate to an only fans profile? Like

1364
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: how much time do you actually need to put into

1365
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: making sure that it's worth it, because at some point

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01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: you had a regular job. It's a it's a daily job,

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: like just as far I mean, I know, um, just

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: some friends. I know some people they set out days.

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: We haven't got to that point where we're like, okay,

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01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: well this is too overwhelming. We need to set days

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: to do this kind of just like all right, we're

1372
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 1: on Twitter, we're on Instagram. Let's just go check only fans.

1373
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: Like as far as like shooting and whatnot, Um, yeah,

1374
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: there's no schedule. We kind of just yeah, but we're

1375
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: still like a l and error process, like just like

1376
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: understanding what we want and what we don't. And she's

1377
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: like that like working with people or like we're just

1378
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: trying to keep through something exclusively for our this kind

1379
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: of thing. So it's like go back and forth from

1380
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: just you know, trying to see like what we like

1381
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: to do, or like how we like, like how we

1382
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: like to spend our time with. Do you notice that

1383
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: the sex is different when you're doing only van sex

1384
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: versus like other like your personal sex, like tell us that, Um, yeah, no,

1385
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: there's really That's why I like. I like telling people

1386
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: like if we didn't have an only fans, we would

1387
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: still have as many videos in our phone. You know,

1388
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: we gotta old this ship to a cloud. When we started,

1389
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: it was just old videos from like when we first

1390
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: started talking