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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm any Race and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the foods of Peram. I'm so excited for this. Literally,

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Speaker 1: I think everything in here was news to me. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: that's that. That is exciting and okay. Um, So I

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Speaker 1: we were trying to figure out what episodes to do

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Speaker 1: this week, um, and I pulled up a calendar and

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Speaker 1: realized that Peram was coming up, and uh. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, what about the fitz Peram And and and

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Speaker 1: he was like, what the heck is that? And so

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Speaker 1: I gave a really brief rundown of it, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: half half of my family, my dad's side of the

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Speaker 1: family is Jewish super Reform. Like we didn't really practice.

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Speaker 1: My dad wasn't into it. We would we would do

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Speaker 1: like the kind of important family holidays with family. But um,

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Speaker 1: I did grow up when I was very young going

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Speaker 1: to a Jewish nursery school and from smooth these holidays

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Speaker 1: with family and moving into into college where I went

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Speaker 1: to school in Florida where there's a large Jewish population. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I was steeped in some of these

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Speaker 1: traditions and Peram is a wonderfully fun holiday. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you were describing it to me, I was so

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Speaker 1: in and kind of angry that I hadn't heard about

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Speaker 1: it before. It is full of murder and feasting and

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Speaker 1: drinking and noisemaking and joy and uh and and yeah

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Speaker 1: so uh so yeah, I wanted to share it with

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Speaker 1: with all of y'all. I'm so excited. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Peram. What is it? Well? Uh, Peram

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Speaker 1: is a Jewish holiday that celebrates the story of Queen Esther.

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Speaker 1: It's f festival, holiday and traditions very kind of widely,

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Speaker 1: but the basic idea is that you come together with

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Speaker 1: family and friends or community and do a telling of

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Speaker 1: the story and a feast and drink. It's also common

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Speaker 1: to send gifts of food and drink to a friends

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Speaker 1: or money to an organization that does that thing on

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Speaker 1: a larger scale that The idea being that that everyone

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Speaker 1: should have baseline enough to eat on Perum, but hopefully

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Speaker 1: enough to celebrate. And yes, this is timely because Perum

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Speaker 1: falls on either the fourteenth or in some places the

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Speaker 1: fifteen day of the month of Adar in the Hebrew calendar,

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Speaker 1: which is a lunar solar calendar, which means the date

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Speaker 1: moves on our calendar, um and falls on March tenth,

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Speaker 1: coming up. Um. Because Jewish holidays start at sunset the

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Speaker 1: previous day and run through nightfall the day of, that

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Speaker 1: means that folks are going to be celebrating Peram this

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Speaker 1: year on March nine. Got it? M hmmm Yeah. That

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Speaker 1: sunset thing, by the way, um, comes from the detail

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Speaker 1: of creation, which starts with there was night and then

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Speaker 1: there was day. So holidays begin the night before, okay um. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So to understand the food's eaten on Peram, you should

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Speaker 1: know the basic story of Peram, or at least a

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Speaker 1: little bit about it. And there's an old joke that

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Speaker 1: I think is what I brought up first when I

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Speaker 1: reading about all of this, I understand is is thought

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Speaker 1: to be like real real American by the larger global

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Speaker 1: Jewish community anyway, that the joke is that Jewish beast

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Speaker 1: days can be largely summed up as they tried to

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Speaker 1: kill us, we won, Let's eat And it's not always true, um,

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Speaker 1: But Peram really does exemplify it. So um So the

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Speaker 1: story of Queen Esther. This is laid out in the

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Speaker 1: Book of Esther in the Hebrew Bible and the Old Testament,

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Speaker 1: and it's set in the fourth century BC ancient Persia.

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Speaker 1: The Jewish people were not particularly favored subjects of the

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Speaker 1: Persian Empire, then led by King Ajasueris, who was then

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Speaker 1: during which he got so drunk that he was like, hey, Vashti,

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Speaker 1: And this is where our hero Esther comes in. So.

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Speaker 1: Esther was a young Jewish orphan adopted by one Mordechai.

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Speaker 1: But she did secure a position for Mordecai as an

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Speaker 1: Jewish people all across Persia, starting on the thirteenth day

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Speaker 1: all the other Jews in the city fasted and prayed

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Speaker 1: finally Esther went to the king and was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: But meanwhile, um, Hamman was trying to get Mordecai executed,

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Speaker 1: Haman's totally trying to kill Mordecai and that dude has

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Speaker 1: and the rabbinic instructions on how to celebrate say that

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Speaker 1: but okay, we're a food show. Let's talk about some

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Speaker 1: of that food, right, And probably the first thing that

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things. And I have you you've had these?

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Speaker 1: to your super producers Dylan Fagan and Andrew Howard. Thanks

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