WEBVTT - Season 08 Episode 10: Not All Who Wander

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<v Speaker 1>Lost worlds have always tugged firmly on the human imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>For millennia, we've shared tales of forgotten places where time

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<v Speaker 1>has not kept pace with history, where the clutter and

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<v Speaker 1>conformity of the contemporary world do not hold sway. The

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<v Speaker 1>most famous of all lost worlds is the mythical Atlantis,

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<v Speaker 1>first introduced in Plato's Dialogs to Maeus and Critius around

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty BCE. Atlantis is described as a

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<v Speaker 1>utopian island nation home to an advanced seafaring society. After

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanteans supposedly went to war with Athens, the gods

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<v Speaker 1>punished them with fire and flood, sinking their proud home

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<v Speaker 1>Rome into the depths of the Atlantic Ocean. For some,

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantis is an allegory for the inevitable downfall that follows

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<v Speaker 1>greed and hubris. For others, it is of very real civilization,

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<v Speaker 1>lost to antiquity, but shining still in the imagination. There

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<v Speaker 1>are other similar stories of sunken lands around the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>Limyria a nation submerged beneath the Indian Ocean, move a

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<v Speaker 1>fabled continent swallowed down by the Pacific. Then there is

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<v Speaker 1>the El Dorado, the legendary South American city of Gold

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<v Speaker 1>or Shambala, a mystical paradise of enlightenment hidden somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the Himalayas. Taken together, these stories point to a deep

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<v Speaker 1>rooted and universal desire to maintain some mystery in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery under constant erosion by the unceasing march of

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<v Speaker 1>technological development, and the human urge to explore, to fill

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<v Speaker 1>in the map of the world with fact distances and details.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the romance were squeezed out of our cartography,

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<v Speaker 1>it snuck back in through our fiction. In eighteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>h Rider Haggard wrote King Solomon's Minds, often regarded as

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<v Speaker 1>the origin of the modern lost world genre in the

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<v Speaker 1>Western tradition, at least in it, Haggard's explorers, led by

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<v Speaker 1>the undauntable Allan Quartermaine mount an arduous trek through an

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<v Speaker 1>unmapped region of Central Africa in search of the fabled minds,

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<v Speaker 1>confronting ancient, unknown cultures. Three decades later, Arthur Conan Doyle

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<v Speaker 1>published The Lost World, in which another group of adventurers

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<v Speaker 1>discover a bubble of prehistory lingering atop an Amazonian plateau,

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<v Speaker 1>a microcosm of the past, full of ancient monsters and

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<v Speaker 1>rugged cave people. But there are other hidden parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the world and stories about them that reveal a darker truth.

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<v Speaker 1>In Joseph Comrade's seminal novel The Heart of Darkness, Sailor

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Marlowe speaks of his boyhood lust for adventure. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a little chap there were many blank

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<v Speaker 1>spaces on the earth, and when I saw one that

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<v Speaker 1>looked particularly inviting on a map, I would put my

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<v Speaker 1>finger on it and say, when I grow up, I

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<v Speaker 1>will go there. But there was one yet, the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>the most blank, so to speak, that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>hankering after. That blank space on Marlowe's map was the

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<v Speaker 1>Congo Basin, an area of one point one million square

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<v Speaker 1>miles deep in central Africa, home to the world's second

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<v Speaker 1>largest rainforest, deepest river, and a huge range of flora

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<v Speaker 1>and fauna. It is a place that perhaps most represents

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<v Speaker 1>the stereotypical mystery and untamed wildness long attached to Africa

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<v Speaker 1>in the white European mind. The story is essentially an

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<v Speaker 1>account of Marlow's steamship journey up the Congo River in

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<v Speaker 1>search of the enigmatic Kurts, a sinister European ivory trader.

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<v Speaker 1>But as is so often the case, what Marlowe had

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<v Speaker 1>once viewed as an unknown space was rather simply unknown

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<v Speaker 1>to him. In reality, it was already populated by hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of people, and the only strange and monstrous

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<v Speaker 1>things he discovered there were the brutal acts being perpose

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<v Speaker 1>traded on them. For Marlowe, the Congo ceased to be

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<v Speaker 1>a blank space of delightful mystery, and instead had become

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<v Speaker 1>a place of darkness. But there is a parallel story

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<v Speaker 1>to this sphere of dense forest and deep water, one

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<v Speaker 1>told over centuries by local Congolese and explorers alike, a

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<v Speaker 1>story that calls into question what we truly know about

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<v Speaker 1>our world and what may lurk still in the parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the map that have yet to be fully filled.

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<v Speaker 1>In You're listening to Unexplained, and I'm Richard McLean Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>In the seventeen sixties, abbe Levan Bonaventure Proia, a French

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<v Speaker 1>writer and cleric, worked as a missionary in the Congo basin.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later, after returning to France, he wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>detailing his experience of the region and compiling his fellow

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<v Speaker 1>missionaries knowledge of its natural wonders. No doubt, this book,

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<v Speaker 1>titled a History of Lango, Cocongo and other Kingdoms of Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>would have slipped into total obscurity were it not for

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<v Speaker 1>one enigmatic passage. Missionaries Proyar Rites have observed passing along

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<v Speaker 1>a forest the trail of an animal they have never seen,

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<v Speaker 1>but which must be monstrous. The marks of its claws

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<v Speaker 1>were noted upon the earth, and these composed a footprint

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<v Speaker 1>of about three feet in circumference. By observing the disposition

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<v Speaker 1>of his footsteps, it was recognized that he was not running,

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<v Speaker 1>and he carried his legs at the distance of seven

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<v Speaker 1>to eight feet apart. Proyar does not elaborate further. It

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<v Speaker 1>gives no additional details and what this unnamed creature is

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<v Speaker 1>or what it supposedly looks like. This is nonetheless considered

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<v Speaker 1>the first written reference to a creature known as morkel

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<v Speaker 1>and Bembe, Africa's most infamous undiscovered animal, or in modern

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<v Speaker 1>terminology cryptid. In the oral traditions of the local Bantu people,

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<v Speaker 1>the mockle and Bembe is alternatively spirit allegory or flesh

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<v Speaker 1>and blood creature. One tale goes that during a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>bout of tribal warfare, a band of Congolese pigmies were

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<v Speaker 1>fleeing through the rainforest when they reached a river too

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<v Speaker 1>wide and dangerous to cross with pursuers on their trail,

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<v Speaker 1>They were caught until a broad back breached the river's surface,

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<v Speaker 1>a living bridge that the pigmase scrambled across to safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Other accounts present the macklay and bembey as a very

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<v Speaker 1>real and much less benign entity, but in either case

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<v Speaker 1>reference is always made to its grand site. In the

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<v Speaker 1>Lingala language, mockle and bembe means one who stops the

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<v Speaker 1>flow of rivers. In nineteen thirteen, a German explorer visited

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<v Speaker 1>what is now modern day Cameroon. The man Ludwig Freiheer

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<v Speaker 1>von steins u Lausnitz was on a government funded mission

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<v Speaker 1>to survey the German colonies. While trekking the bush, Ludwig

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<v Speaker 1>heard recurrent tales of a mysterious animal feared by natives

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<v Speaker 1>of the neighboring Congo. He was particularly astounded that these

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<v Speaker 1>accounts came from such experienced guides, who, despite coming from

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<v Speaker 1>different tribes separated by many miles of dense rainforest or

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<v Speaker 1>relaid similar details. The creature was said to inhabit shallow

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<v Speaker 1>waters and the exposed banks of sharp river bends. According

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<v Speaker 1>to cautionary tales, if anyone was unwary or unlucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to paddle close to the creature's lair, the mokele and

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<v Speaker 1>Bembe would rush forth and destroy the canoes and the

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<v Speaker 1>people inside them with a heavy swipe of its tail.

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<v Speaker 1>It never ate the bodies, though they were left undisturbed

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<v Speaker 1>the floating detritus of the apparent beast's extreme territorialism, and

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<v Speaker 1>while local tribespeople spoke of the mochle and Bembe as

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<v Speaker 1>capable of hunting and killing an elephant, they were never

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<v Speaker 1>known to devour the carcass. Indeed, the mochle and Bembe

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<v Speaker 1>was said to enjoy an exclusively herbivorous diet, climbing laboriously

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<v Speaker 1>up the bank of the river to feast on the

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<v Speaker 1>local foliage. In particular, it is said to have a

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<v Speaker 1>taste for the mulumbo, an apple like fruit common to

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<v Speaker 1>the banks of rivers and lakes. To the people of

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<v Speaker 1>the Congo, the mochele and Bembe simply was an oversized

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<v Speaker 1>part of their ecosystem, like an elephant or a hippo,

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<v Speaker 1>and they described it with the same level of consistency. Supposedly,

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<v Speaker 1>the animal was very large, with a body a little

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than an adult elephant, covered in smooth, scaleless skin.

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<v Speaker 1>A small head sat at the end of a long,

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<v Speaker 1>sinuous neck, and it wielded an alligator like tail thick

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<v Speaker 1>with mussel. To Western explorers, however, physical discs scriptions of

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<v Speaker 1>the apparent monster, coupled with its eating habits, hinted at

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<v Speaker 1>an alluring, alarming question. Does a dinosaur live on the

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<v Speaker 1>so called lost world of the Congo basin? One man

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to find out. Professor Roy Mackell arrived in the

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<v Speaker 1>Congo for the first time in January nineteen eighty, a

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<v Speaker 1>respected biologist recently retired from the University of Chicago. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also vice president of the International Society of Cryptozoology

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<v Speaker 1>under world authority on the topic of the Lochness Monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Having grown tired of the endless, unrewarded search for NeSSI,

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<v Speaker 1>Mackell turned his attention to Africa after his friend, the

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<v Speaker 1>herpetologist James Powell, related a story he once heard from

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<v Speaker 1>a Bantu folk healer. The healer had told Old Powell

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<v Speaker 1>of a great jungle beast, a source of terror and

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<v Speaker 1>owe for the Bantu people. Keen to identify the creature,

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<v Speaker 1>Paw presented the healer with a picture book of animals.

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<v Speaker 1>The healer looked on passively as Paw turned the page

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<v Speaker 1>on one animal after another, when finally he told Paw

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<v Speaker 1>to stop, energetically pointing to one particular image on a page.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a picture of a Diplodocus, a sauropod dinosaur

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<v Speaker 1>measuring on average twenty seven meters long and four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half meters tour that went extinct one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty five million years ago, and so Intrigued and buoyed

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<v Speaker 1>by the implications, Macaw and Powell made their way together

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<v Speaker 1>to the Republic of Congo. Starting from the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Ifondo in the northeast, the two friends began a month

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<v Speaker 1>long trek through the Licoala Swamp, a vast expanse of

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty five thousand maize like square miles of rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>shallow lakes, and low lying islands, as impenetrable to western

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<v Speaker 1>tourists as it is perfect for a semi aquatic lizard.

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<v Speaker 1>Their guide was Marion Nicole, a local pigmy whose help

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<v Speaker 1>would prove essential. As mocel and Bembay believers have argued,

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<v Speaker 1>the Likohala Swamp region is highly suitable for a large

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<v Speaker 1>prehistoric species to survive and breed in small populations. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only is it supremely isolated, it has remained almost unchanged

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<v Speaker 1>since the Cretaceous period, with a stable climate, minimal tectonic disruption,

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<v Speaker 1>and virtually no movement from its proximity to the equator. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>Macal argued a herd of dinosaurs could potentially go was

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<v Speaker 1>unnoticed as a swarm of insects. But it hadn't gone unnoticed,

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<v Speaker 1>as McAll and Powell quickly discovered while they trekked from

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<v Speaker 1>town to town. Stories of Maclay and Bembe encounters were

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<v Speaker 1>not hard to come by. One Bantu man, Furman Mossamele,

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<v Speaker 1>told them how as a young boy, he'd disturbed the

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<v Speaker 1>animal paddling near the town of Epina before he fled

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<v Speaker 1>in terror. Furman saw a small head rise from the river,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by a serpentine neck and broad ruddy back, just

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<v Speaker 1>like Powell's healer. Furman also pointed to a depiction of

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<v Speaker 1>a sauropod dinosaur in a book as the nearest comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to what he saw. Another first hand account from a

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<v Speaker 1>hunter named Nicholas Mondongo described a ruddy red river monster

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<v Speaker 1>standing in water only a few feet deep. He told

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<v Speaker 1>the fascinated researchers that the creature was at least ten

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<v Speaker 1>meters from its head to the tip of its thick tail,

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<v Speaker 1>and he too recognized the mochelae and bembe in the

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<v Speaker 1>drawings of the Diplodocus and other sauropods. Mikail had begun

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<v Speaker 1>his expedition with skepticism about the idea of a surviving

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<v Speaker 1>modern day dinosaur. However, after contemplating the scale of the

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<v Speaker 1>unexplored rainforest and hearing from more witnesses who each pointed

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<v Speaker 1>eagerly to pictures of surapods, he flew home with a

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<v Speaker 1>firm conviction something unknown was roaming the interior of the

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<v Speaker 1>Congo Basin. In October nineteen eighty one, Macau returned to Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>determined to find definitive roof This time, he headed up

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<v Speaker 1>a larger team, which included his International Society of Cryptosymology

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<v Speaker 1>colleague Richard Greenwell of Congolese biologist doctor Marcellan and Nanya,

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<v Speaker 1>and pastor Eugene Thomas, an American missionary who'd lived in

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<v Speaker 1>the country since the late fifties and who claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>have heard over fifty first hand reports of the apparent creature.

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<v Speaker 1>German electrical engineer and avid proponent of the mckelay and

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<v Speaker 1>Bembey theory, Hermann Regustas was also supposed to join the party,

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<v Speaker 1>providing vital expertise and the ability to employ satellite tracking. Sadly, however,

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<v Speaker 1>for reasons unknown, he and Macaw fell out, and he

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<v Speaker 1>neglected to join the team on their quest. Under turret,

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<v Speaker 1>macau moved forward. This time, he decided to refine the

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<v Speaker 1>search area, choosing to focus on the waterways and swamp

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<v Speaker 1>land itself. As their trip began at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the rainy season, water levels were high enough to allow

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<v Speaker 1>the group to travel by river, faster than the previous

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<v Speaker 1>year's overland journey and closer to the habitat that the

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<v Speaker 1>creature would ostensibly call home. The team traveled in perogues,

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<v Speaker 1>long narrow canoes carved from a single tree trunk. Parogues

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<v Speaker 1>sit very low in the water, with only an inch

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<v Speaker 1>or two of draft, but their stability and maneuverability makes

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<v Speaker 1>them the vessel of choice for Bantu and Pygmy river communities.

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<v Speaker 1>The group's initial aim was to reach Lake Telee, a

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<v Speaker 1>remote lake thought to be a particular haunt of the

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<v Speaker 1>Macklay and Bembey. As rumor had it, it was there

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty that a group of Bogombay pigmies felt

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<v Speaker 1>one of the creatures us using long spears. Only no

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<v Speaker 1>sooner had they begun feasting on the carcass. One by one,

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<v Speaker 1>the group as said to have collapsed and died due

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<v Speaker 1>to a deadly poison said to saturate the creature's flesh.

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<v Speaker 1>Even without the threat of poison, the Bogombay Pygmy story

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<v Speaker 1>is the only account of the enigmatic beast being brought

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<v Speaker 1>down by humans, and without spears or hunting expertise of

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<v Speaker 1>their own, there was no doubt. The Macal party set

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<v Speaker 1>out with no little trepidation as they headed back into

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<v Speaker 1>the swamp. Embarking from Pastor Thomas's mission, Macau's team first

0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 1>canoed southwest down the Tanga River and then south on

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<v Speaker 1>the larger le Koala o Zerb River. At some point

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<v Speaker 1>Macau heard a loud splash from near the bank. He

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<v Speaker 1>turned quickly to see a sizeable rogue wave come cresting

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<v Speaker 1>across from the shadowy vine encrusted overhang. The river. Water

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<v Speaker 1>washed across their pirogues, prompting the guides to scream out

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<v Speaker 1>in terror Mochle and Bembe. Mockele and Bembey with great persistence,

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<v Speaker 1>Macau just about managed to convince them not to flee.

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<v Speaker 1>After a half hour search, the team found no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>or tracks with which to identify whatever had created the wave.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, the nervous guide e Cole assured the team

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<v Speaker 1>that of all the creatures it might have been, crocodiles

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<v Speaker 1>do not create waves when they enter the water, elephants

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<v Speaker 1>do not fully submerge themselves, and no hippos were known

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<v Speaker 1>to inhabit that section of the le Koala. When Macau

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<v Speaker 1>asked how the guide knew the no hippos in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>his response was swift and matter of fact. The Mokel

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<v Speaker 1>and Bembey had chased them all away, he said. Some

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<v Speaker 1>time later, the expedition reached the confluence of the Lekoala,

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<v Speaker 1>o Zerb and the Uncharted River. By Here they established

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<v Speaker 1>a base and visited several local villages, gathering more eyewitness testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>In total, they collected more than thirty independent reports of

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<v Speaker 1>apparent encounters with the Macklay and Bembey. One hunter escorted

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<v Speaker 1>Macau to a stretch of river bank where he discovered

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<v Speaker 1>a large trail that he couldn't identify. Some large animal

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<v Speaker 1>had clearly dredged itself from the river and headed into

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<v Speaker 1>the surrounding jungle, leaving foot wide clawed prints. The size

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<v Speaker 1>of the path it created was roughly the same as

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<v Speaker 1>that made by an elephant, But elephants do not have claws,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hunter emphasized that neither did they devastate the

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<v Speaker 1>plant life in quite the way this creature had. Feeling

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<v Speaker 1>confident they were on the cusp of a discovery, Macaal

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<v Speaker 1>and his team aimed to push on to Lake Telley. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>to their great disappointment, they learned how fallible the maps

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<v Speaker 1>of the local region had up till then been. As

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out, the river they were on was not

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<v Speaker 1>the northern reach of the Bye River as they had thought,

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<v Speaker 1>and to reach Lake Telley from their position would require

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<v Speaker 1>an overland slog through the most inhospitable terrain, equipped only

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<v Speaker 1>for a river journey, they had no choice but to

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<v Speaker 1>turn back. Macaw's great search for the dinosaur of the

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<v Speaker 1>Congo had reached an anticlimactic end. He flew back to

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<v Speaker 1>the u s no less persuaded of the creature's existence,

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<v Speaker 1>but with the heavy awareness that none of the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>he collected would convince the zoological community. Roy Macaw's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven book A Living Dinosaur in Search of Mockelay

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<v Speaker 1>and Bembe, which he subsequently wrote, did much to promote

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of prehistoric survival into the present day, though

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<v Speaker 1>macau was ultimately forced to concede that though the mystery

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<v Speaker 1>beckons pending new information from future expeditions, our speculations must

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<v Speaker 1>rest here. But Roy mackel had not been the only

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<v Speaker 1>cryptozoologist scourring the swamps for monsters after their falling out.

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<v Speaker 1>Herm and Rougustus, the German satellite specialists, had initiated his

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<v Speaker 1>own expedition, which also took place in the autumn of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one. In fact, Ermine had started a four

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<v Speaker 1>month before. Like Mackel, Ermine also centered his attention on

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<v Speaker 1>the elusive Lake Telley, but he was successful in reaching it.

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<v Speaker 1>His team, which included his wife Kia in the role

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<v Speaker 1>as chief medical officer, arrived there on October twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>when Mackel was still days from setting out on the river.

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<v Speaker 1>Seen from above, Lake Telley is a great shining disk,

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<v Speaker 1>two miles wide and enclosed on all sides by a

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<v Speaker 1>limitless blanket of trees. To some it looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>vast eye staring up from a dark green face, the

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<v Speaker 1>inlets and rivers running to and from it like scars.

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<v Speaker 1>It is here that the mochll Bembe is thought to

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<v Speaker 1>make its home. On the afternoon of their first day,

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<v Speaker 1>Rmin and Kia noticed sizeable waves radiating in the otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>calm water. However, it wasn't possible to see the source

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<v Speaker 1>of the disturbance that day, but the following morning, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the party believed they spotted a long, neck like

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<v Speaker 1>protuberance stretching out from the lake. It stayed in view

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<v Speaker 1>for a full five minutes before sinking out of sight.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a week later when Herman and Kia heard

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<v Speaker 1>a frightening noise emanating from the jungle around their shore

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<v Speaker 1>side camp. It began as a low roar which increased

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<v Speaker 1>in volume and violence to a deep throated, trumpeting growl.

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<v Speaker 1>As they described it, the couple sat in their canoe,

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<v Speaker 1>rooted with fascination and fear as whatever made the noise

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>could be heard plowing through the trees, growling and battering

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>vegetation as it went. On November twenty seventh, after a

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<v Speaker 1>full month on the Lake Kia, claint have glimpsed a long,

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>sinuous appendage rising from the water, topped with a large

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 1>snakelike head. She estimated it to be over six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half feet in length. It apparently swayed in full

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<v Speaker 1>view as if waving to the awestruck woman, before sinking,

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<v Speaker 1>as ever, beneath the surface. Sadly, for all these sightings,

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<v Speaker 1>the Augustus expedition gathered no photographic or physical evidence. Hermann

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>blamed human error and humidity, and though he returned home

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>convinced of the existence of a relict dinosaur, his anecdotal

0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>reports caused barely a stir. Two years after the Macal

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<v Speaker 1>and Rugusta expeditions, another team battled their way to the

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<v Speaker 1>shores of Lake Telley, but this time people paid attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcellan and Nanya was the Congolese zoologist who was part

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<v Speaker 1>of Macal's second expedition. He also had a government role

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ministry of Water and Forests. As such, he

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<v Speaker 1>was well placed and well provisioned to pursue his determined

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<v Speaker 1>search for the mackl and Bembe. In April nineteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>he put together a seven person Congolese only team, whose

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<v Speaker 1>every member was familiar with the ecosystem they were set

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to explore once again. The hunters were drawn towards Lake Telley,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like blood towards the heart. After days of canoeing and

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>trekking through dense jungle, they finally arrived and promptly set

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<v Speaker 1>up camp. On the second day of their stakeout, the

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<v Speaker 1>group observed a huge turtle near to their bank. By

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<v Speaker 1>Annanya's reckoning, it was over six feet long, easily double

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the size of the commonly recognized African soft shell turtle.

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<v Speaker 1>Though some have wondered if this might in fact be

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<v Speaker 1>the root of the whole Mokelly and Benbe story, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but an oversized turtle transformed through the prism of frightened

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>imaginations into something even grander. The truth is, the giant

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 1>turtle already has its own name and folklore attached the

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>endn Deci. They call it a creature in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>just as fabled as the Mocklae and Bembey, And so

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<v Speaker 1>it would seem, even without offering up a surviving dinosaur,

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Lake Hell was all already living up to its reputation

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>as a lost world of the Arthur Conan Doyle variety. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>on the third day May one, the dinosaur is said

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<v Speaker 1>to have made its presence known, and Nanya was filming

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a troop of monkeys on the lake shore when he

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>heard one of his party crying out in excitement. Dashing

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<v Speaker 1>to the water's edge, he was stunned to see just

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<v Speaker 1>under three hundred meters off shore the rising neck and

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>back of a huge animal, and Nanya strode into the

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<v Speaker 1>water and toward the creature, feeling a jolt of adrenaline

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>when he saw its head turn at the sound of

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<v Speaker 1>his approach sixty meters in, and Nanya stopped and raised

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<v Speaker 1>his camera through the magnified lens. He later said he

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<v Speaker 1>took in all the details that he'd heard locals repeat

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<v Speaker 1>again and again. A foot long neck topped with an

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<v Speaker 1>undersized snakelike head with crocodilian eyes, its skin shaded from

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>its ruddy head down, a brown neck turning black across

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>its hump, and the ten feet of its back. In total,

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<v Speaker 1>the creature, he claimed, was over five meters in length.

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<v Speaker 1>It sank for a moment beneath the water, he later said,

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<v Speaker 1>only for its neck to soon re emerge and stay

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>visible for a full twenty minutes. In this time, the

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>zoologist determined that he was looking at something reptilian rather

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<v Speaker 1>than mammalian, and felt compelled to conclude that it did

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>indeed look very much like a sauropod dinosaur. When Marcellan

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and Nanyas Mochli and Bembe finally submerged fully into the water,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>his team apparently rushed to its last location in their pirogue,

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>but saw nothing beneath the dense vegetable matter that gathered

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>at the surface of the lake. It was when they

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>arrived back at the shore that Ananya claimed to make

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the crushing discovery that he'd accidentally filmed the whole encounter

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>with an entirely inappropriate focus setting, having neglected to change

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it after filming the monkeys. When he eventually apparently watched

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the footage back, it displayed only an impenetrable blurry image

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>he did take several photos with a small thirty five

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>millimeter camera. However, his grainy images of something dark breaking

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the surface of the lake have garnered both support and

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<v Speaker 1>condemnation over the years. There the search for Central Africa

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<v Speaker 1>living dinosaur could have rested in the uncertain ground between

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<v Speaker 1>anecdote myth and compromised evidence. But there is just something

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<v Speaker 1>about those empty places on the map human beings cannot

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>keep away. Other expeditions have followed over the last forty years,

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of them, most failed valiantly to gain any greater

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>evidence than Roy mackel, Hermann, Rugusta's or Marcellan and Anya.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety two, a Japanese film crew recorded fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>seconds of video showing something long and distinctly serpentine swimming

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>across Lake Telley's glassy surface. It remains the most compelling

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>sign that something unknown still calls the lake its home.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is worth noting that Mocklay and Bembe is

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<v Speaker 1>not the only prehistoric relic reported from the Congo. Other

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<v Speaker 1>tales tell of the cassai rex, a ferocious carnival able

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<v Speaker 1>to kill rhinos, and the Ammela and Tuca, a horned

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>reptile as large as a bush elephant, with a striking

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>resemblance to the triceratops. And then there is the Kanga motto,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge bird with a seven foot wingspan, scaled rather

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>than feathered. It is said to attack the boats of

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<v Speaker 1>those that venture too far into the rivers and trees.

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<v Speaker 1>When European explorers showed them images of prehistoric pterosaurs, the

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<v Speaker 1>local people didn't react with or as others had to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mochele and Bembe. Instead, they seemed terrified. Lost world, then,

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>is perhaps the wrong term to be lost. Something must

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<v Speaker 1>first be found and known. We can be lost, and

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<v Speaker 1>we may well be should we tread too far into

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<v Speaker 1>the interior of the Central African rainforest. But the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we may meet there have always corded home. This

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