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Speaker 1: Second date up date, Brooke, did you know the first

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Speaker 1: time that you met your husband Michael, that something was special?

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Speaker 1: Not saying that you knew like you were going to

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Speaker 1: but was there anything that happened with you instantly that

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Speaker 1: lets you know, WHOA, there's something real, like something actually

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Speaker 1: special going on.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I just felt so good around him, and I was

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're drunk, so that's probably.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I did have like five glasses of wine

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Speaker 3: to make an off color uti joke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, uti.

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Speaker 3: Joke, and he still likes me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Pet explains it. I mean, I remember the first

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Speaker 1: time that I met Jose and I noticed his fly

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Speaker 1: was down and I thought, ooh special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't tell me x y Z though.

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Speaker 1: No, I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: He asked you to put it down further.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, we don't talk about this all

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Speaker 1: the time, about that first ten to fifteen seconds when

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Speaker 1: you meet your date and something happens inside that's real.

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Speaker 1: Apparently that happened to one of our listeners, Graham, recently,

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Speaker 1: at least that's what his email said, and we should

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Speaker 1: learn a little bit more about it, Graham, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show man.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear about this chance meeting. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, without getting overly descriptive, how did your body

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Speaker 1: let you know that this was special?

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Speaker 2: Well, she didn't ever fly open, I can tell you that.

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Speaker 1: Oh dang it. So what's her name, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and how did you meet her?

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Speaker 2: Her name is Aura.

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Speaker 3: How did you meet her?

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Speaker 2: We met on one of those dating apps and we

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Speaker 2: decided to meet at a wine bar.

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Speaker 3: All right, So going into meeting her at the wine bar,

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Speaker 3: were you expecting something special?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know how you always have your hopes up.

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Speaker 2: But I knew when I walked in that I was

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Speaker 1: Just one of those people like me.

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Speaker 4: She got no shame.

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Speaker 3: And you loved that, right, Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, she was just so like effort, was really cute.

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Speaker 1: Well, free spirit over there.

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Speaker 3: Her name's Aura, it comes you know. That's adorable. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it sounds like she was excited to see you.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those like initial meetings where in

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Speaker 2: the first five seconds I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: That must be a lot to process, right when you're

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Speaker 1: first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling where

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it

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Speaker 2: We were just cracking each other up the whole time.

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Speaker 3: You guys were in your own world, right, and they're

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Speaker 3: already making almost inside jokes with each other, you know,

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Speaker 1: Lington drummers, you know whatever. Well, clearly the vibes are there,

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Speaker 1: so keep taking us through. How the rest of the

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Speaker 2: Just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of like

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Speaker 2: Like at one point she had like some lipstick on

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: So I started like signaling and rubbing on my own

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Speaker 3: Good, I'm glad you told her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she just looks at me. She goes, what

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Speaker 1: Just rubbing your tongue on your teeth exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was just laughing so much and then fun, oh

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Speaker 1: It went so well, oh my god, this sounds like it.

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Speaker 3: Why are you calling us for help? Then like, I

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Speaker 3: don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, it didn't really end poorly. When

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Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 2: Some of those are nice exactly, And she says, we

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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 2: And so sincere, I texted her twice, one time to

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Speaker 1: Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her.

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Speaker 1: Was this like thirty minutes after the date or was

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Speaker 2: I waited two days.

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Speaker 3: I think that's good. Too long too. I think when

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Speaker 3: the game of wa Yeah, that's blew that.

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Speaker 1: Have you read a certain point? You just got to

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Speaker 3: Have you not heard from her at all?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. Is like when I was texting her,

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Speaker 2: It was no, I'm busy. I can't.

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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes these free spirits they really suck at text.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Alexis, if you wanted to see a guy,

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Speaker 1: would you tell him like, I'm just busy or would

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Speaker 3: I would offer something else.

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Speaker 4: I'd probably over offer.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'd probably mentioned all the times I'm free. You

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Speaker 1: It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm

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Speaker 3: I understand it's had such a thing happening. It's just

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her

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Speaker 2: No, No, no, I am a proper gentleman. I paid

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Speaker 2: for everything. Okay, I just need I need you guys

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Speaker 3: We're gonna find for you. How do keep it going?

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Speaker 3: Because I've got faith in this one.

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Speaker 1: Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could

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Speaker 3: I am so excited to get her on the phone.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's find out. We're gonna come back call

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Speaker 1: hold on second date update. Whenever I'm stuck on hold

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Speaker 1: message keeps replaying over and over saying we're busy right now,

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Speaker 1: but don't go anywhere. Your call's very important to us.

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Speaker 1: We're just busy. I believe them. Oh you don't, they

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Speaker 3: Yeah they're not a break somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, if you're on the other end

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Speaker 3: Ye, especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine

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Speaker 3: for a different day to date meet exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's where our listener, Graham is, after a really

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Speaker 1: He has turned to us because those two busies just

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Speaker 3: And they're not equaling the vibe that they had going

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Speaker 1: I haven't sad as sooner but negative our points for her, Yeah, Graham,

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Speaker 1: I mean, before we call her here, how you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest, but how's

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Speaker 1: Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this

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Speaker 1: I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.

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Speaker 1: We can change that right now. Let's get it. Let

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hey, is this Aura, Yes, Jesus.

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Speaker 1: This is Uh. We're a radio show. We're called Brook

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Speaker 1: and Jeffrey in the Morning, the whole show. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Hi, I didn't I don't think I signed up

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Speaker 4: for anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't know.

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Speaker 1: You didn't, but one of our listeners kind of signed

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Speaker 1: you up for something called a second Date update. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you're not familiar with that, it's a segment

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Speaker 1: they're not getting that second meetup and they're not sure why.

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Speaker 1: We can call and try to figure out if there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess we know you're.

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Speaker 3: Really busy, so we won't keep it.

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Speaker 1: That's what we've heard. We're really good at these by

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Speaker 1: the way, we'll be efficient. Okay, we'll get through this.

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Speaker 1: Because we're calling about a guy that you went out

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm like super confused, Like.

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Speaker 3: What is this great question?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's the thing is, we spoke to Graham

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Speaker 3: But not offering any solutions on window meet up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I like it. I already texted him

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Speaker 1: I think in his mind when you say I'm busy,

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Speaker 1: We're not asking you to do that. But he just

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Speaker 5: But it's what's unclear, I'm saying, okay, but I am busy.

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Speaker 3: It's it's unclear if you like I'm honestly still unclear

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Speaker 5: I like him, but like I don't understand why, like

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Speaker 2: Hey or what.

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Speaker 4: I'm so confused, like what is happening? What's like, what's

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Speaker 4: the deal with these like jobbers you hired to like

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Speaker 1: Yea said job jobbers.

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Speaker 4: I called you jobbers, like I don't know what you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a

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Speaker 4: So yeah, but like I told you, I was busy

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Speaker 3: That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy to come.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing it. That was

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Speaker 3: Or can't you think of this as like a kind

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Speaker 4: No, it's super weird.

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Speaker 1: You guys have so much chemistry. I feel like you're

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Speaker 3: Does this feel like the same person you went out with?

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Speaker 2: Graham well, maybe not a little bit, but you guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can take the fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, that's okay. I mean your intentions

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Speaker 1: I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I

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Speaker 3: I'm so guilty and you shouldn't be, Laura. Is there

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Speaker 6: Like you keep saying, you can stop asking me questions.

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Speaker 4: And he can just ask me out. How about that?

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Speaker 2: I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to hang out.

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Speaker 2: And how about this weekend? Are you free? Like on Friday?

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Speaker 4: I'm busy Friday?

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Speaker 3: Okay, keep going, Well, we'll have How about Saturday?

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Speaker 6: I've got something that day. But like you should, you

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now you know why she's so busy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Graham, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Is that okay with you?

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Speaker 4: It means a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 2: Do you even have time for me then?

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Speaker 4: Or what I'm free Sunday afternoon? Like I can squeeze

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not really sure if I want to be

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Speaker 4: Can't be choosers here, Like you're the one who's leaves

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Speaker 1: Okay. She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're gonna.

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Speaker 3: But she's offering you not much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm single, Like I don't have to like.

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Speaker 2: Kind of you.

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Speaker 3: You're kind of single.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all jealous of you are if anything, so,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Graham, I feel like you deserve more

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Speaker 1: So you're open to a possible third situationship with Aura, well,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's really optimistic for yourself.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's the point of like dating, Like you're

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Speaker 1: so I'm just curious though, Aura, if he does go

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Speaker 3: Why would they meet the other I.

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Speaker 6: That's so weird. No, Okay, if it works out, it

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Speaker 1: Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm down, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Not the romantic end, but realistic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, brooking.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh was that like the ickiest yes, that we've ever

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Speaker 3: Not where I wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 3: And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking into, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it is really clear because we

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Speaker 3: She seems pretty blunt, jeff And she seems like she

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the one thing that made her smile during

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how can you not when you're thinking about your

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Speaker 3: Well, he's Sunday boy.

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Speaker 1: Now it might end in a four way marriage if

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Speaker 1: it goes well enough. Sweet, so good for you, Graham.

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Speaker 1: Keep us updated, but if you want help with your

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Speaker 1: dating life, you can always email the show. We'll call

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Speaker 1: that person who isn't calling you back, and go check

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Speaker 1: out all of our second dates wherever you get your

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