1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is presented by Fox One. It's Saturday, 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: October eleventh, twenty twenty five. Ruben Tomorrow Juniors Here, Jim 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Salisbury's here. I'm todd z a lucky. The Philly season 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: ended on Thursday in a crushing and crushing fashion, a 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: two to one loss to the Dodgers and eleven innings 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: in Game four the NLDS Dodgers Stadium. I think this 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: is a loss that will be seared into the memory 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: banks of every Phillies fan probably forever. You know, if 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: you're old enough to remember nineteen sixty four or Black 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Friday or Joe Carter, then you certainly know what I mean. 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. It's time for the Parks First Pitch. 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: First Pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's Number one. Because you know, where 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: do we even start? I mean, flew back, guys, I 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: flew back from LA yesterday and you know, landed and 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: had some text messages from people and and all kind 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: of the same thing. You know, I feel so bad 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: for Ryan Kirkering people. You know, some of my family 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: back home texted and they don't even really know his name, 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: and they said, I feel so bad for that picture 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: that did that. You know, feel bad for the Phillies. 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: It seems like this loss every every time the Phillies 23 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: get bounced from the playoffs. If you're a Phillies fan, 24 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: it hurts. But it seems like this one affected people 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: in a different way. I don't know how you guys 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: feel about it. 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: It was a painful loss, a painful series defeat, because 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: he had a ninety six win team with a lot 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: of talent, the high expectation, and it ended suddenly and 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: with a really good, good guy and a solid contributor 31 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: having had a really difficult moment. If you if you 32 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: don't feel for that kid, then you don't have a 33 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: heart in your chest. It was a tough way to end. 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: You know, get back to spring training and try again 35 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: next year. I know there's a lot that has to 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: go on before then. 37 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: But. 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: There were a lot of reasons that I don't know 39 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: where you want to go with this, Todd, but there 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: are a lot of they just didn't hit. It wasn't 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: they didn't lose because of Ryan Kirkering didn't make a 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: play on the ball that came off the bat at 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: seventy miles an hour with a big swing, So it 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: was essentially a change up and had a funny spin 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: to it. You could see why it got away from him. 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: You could see why he panicked in that situation. He's human. 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: But you know, they just didn't score enough runts in 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: this series to beat a team that also didn't score 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: a lot of runs in the Los Angeles Dodgers, and 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: that's why they've gone home for the third straight autumn, 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: much earlier than anybody wanted them to. But I mean, 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: I think you're right mentioning Carter and Black Friday, and 53 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: you know, to me, I would add the other Black Friday, 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: you know, staring down from the press box and seeing 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals stream out of the dug out 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: that night while Ryan Howard is clutching his ankle. It 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: was a very very painful defeat. And another year has 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: ticked off this team's oh doometer without them getting to 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: the place they want to go. And honestly, for the 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: Phillies fan base and Phillies organization, that's the thing that 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: hurts the most. 62 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of things to unpack here as far 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: as you know what happened and why, and you listen, 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: I believe this in my heart of hearts. You win 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: as a team and you lose as a team. And 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that happened team wise that 67 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: led to that terrible moment for Ryan Kirker. And yes, 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: you have to feel for him, There's no question about it. 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: It's a play that you know, all of us who 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: have played baseball know and understand. But he just got 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: caught up in the moment and you know, regardless of 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: what he said in the press conferences afterwards, and had 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: to face the music afterwards. I mean, it's just a 74 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: play you instinctively picked up and you throw to first base, 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: as simple as that. Now you know the moment was 76 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: big for him. I'm not even really sure he should 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: have been in that moment. To be honest with you, 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: I don't know that I agree with a lot of 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: things that Rob Thompson does. I think he did a 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: masterful job in a lot of ways in getting the 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: pitching staff to get to be able to hold that 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: team down the way it did. I would love to 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: have stayed with Lozardo there. I think Lozardo was throwing 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: with passion. He was throwing with confidence. I didn't see 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: it back off in his stuff. I know the lefty 86 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: righting thing is something, but I honestly felt like this 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: is a guy who, to me, you throw him till 88 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: he's done. There were his runs. I felt like he 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: still had good stuff. And it put Orion Kirkering in 90 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: a really, really tough spot. You know, there's a lot 91 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: of things to unpack. And like I said, I think 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: Rob Thomas is one of the best managers around, but 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of things to unpack regard 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: regarding that that situation. And the bottom line is this, 95 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: they hit one the lineup hit one day. 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Hit two twelve, they hit too. 97 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: Twelve one day out of four. And you have to 98 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: be able to you have to be able to produce runs. Yeah, 99 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: that that is something that has to happen. And like 100 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: I've said before, they have very dangerous hitters. I'm not 101 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: sure that they have really very good hitters. 102 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: I agree with you on the Lozaro thing to the 103 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: left right. I mean, I didn't even think it applied there. 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Because the guy's a starting pitcher. He faces left right 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: all the time he was firing. Let him finish that 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: inning and you bring Oriyon in with traffic on base 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: where he's had trouble. And the sad part of all 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: this is Orion his job. 109 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: He really did. He really did a weak. 110 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: Ground ball, that's what you want. 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: And he did it on two fast balls that he 112 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: had not been confident with, and he did it with 113 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: a couple of fastballs to get the guy has to 114 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: get jammed on it, and it's you know, it's not 115 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: his best pitch, but he went after him and I 116 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: was impressed by that. He just reacted to that baseball 117 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: and poorly. 118 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, the final play was an indicative of the 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: way the team played in the series. The fundamentals were 120 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: poor throughout the series, from the little things fundamentally, the 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: trade turner play with the throw to JT. That was 122 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: a tough play. I have to very very tough play 123 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: to make. But if either that's a forest play or 124 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: the thrower is on the other side of the bag, 125 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: they get that run. The base running play on the 126 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: bunt was was was poorly executed, and then they don't 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: make a simple play on a ground ball no matter 128 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: how how much we feel for the guy. The fundamentals 129 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: were problem and one of the fundamentals of baseballs. You 130 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: got to score runs. That was a big problem as well. 131 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: So well, yeah, no, I mean the offense. I wrote 132 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: down all like the little moments in the game that 133 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of add up. You know, you're gonna when when 134 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: you lose a series like this, you think about, well, 135 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: if this had happened, if that had happened. Jim, you 136 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: mentioned that the trade turner throw to the plate, the 137 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: bass running castillas, the base running on the bunt not 138 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: being very good. You think to the two to two 139 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: pitch that Christopher Sanchez made Alex call that was strike three, 140 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: that was called a ball and he walks. That changes everything, 141 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: you know. And I asked Sanchez after that game, I said, 142 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: when you fly home tonight, are you going to be 143 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: thinking about the little moments? And I said specifically, are 144 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: you going to be thinking about that play or that pitch? 145 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: And you know, he told he said, of course everybody 146 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: knows this by now, But he said that the plate 147 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: said he missed the call, man, can't He. 148 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Also to out walking with the three run lead in 149 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: game one. 150 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: You blow three run lead in game one, Those. 151 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: And those little things become they don't necessarily become big things. 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: If your lineup is hitting, so you know, if they 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: do what they're supposed to do. And the pitching was 154 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: obviously great on both sides of this postseason, but if 155 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: the offense scores some runs, then maybe you can get 156 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: away with that, you know, throw to the plate from 157 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Trey Turner or you know, casting it that they don't. 158 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: Maybe they don't even bunt in that situation with Castianos 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: because they're already have a lead, or maybe that situation 160 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: doesn't even present itself. You know, maybe the Sanchez walk 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: maybe uh, you know, they're that in a situation. You know, 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: the Mookie Bets walk with the bases loaded by Juan Duran. 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: You know, maybe that doesn't even happen. Who knows, you know, 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm just saying that those those 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: little moments did not go to Philly's way. The fundamentals 166 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: weren't there because the offense wasn't there. But I felt 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: really felt terrible for Ryan kirkering in so many different 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: ways as a human being. You know, I think I 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: was literally I was literally thinking of all the times 170 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: in my life that I've done something stupid that I 171 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: still kind of go back in my head and I 172 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys ever had those flashbacks. I'll 173 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: be sitting watching TV and something will pop in my 174 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: head and I'll go, oh, and I'm just thinking, like 175 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: nobody knows about that moment. Millions of people know about 176 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: this moment for Ryan Kirkering, and I just wonder how 177 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: he's going to recover for it from it. I you know, 178 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: his teammates were great after the game, but he got 179 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: up there in the corner of the clubhouse spoke to reporters, 180 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: owned it or it, and I will tell you about 181 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how long I was in that clubhouse 182 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: after Game four, but long after he spoke, his eyes 183 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: were still swollen, his eyes were still red, there were 184 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: still tears in his eyes. And you know, he felt 185 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: the weight of his team on his shoulders. He felt 186 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: the weight of all of every Phillies fan on his shoulders. So, 187 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, big, bigger picture wise, you know, you hope 188 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: he kind of bounces back from this, and you wonder, 189 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, is he going to be able to pitch 190 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia again. I don't know. I don't know where 191 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: this goes, but. 192 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: I did that. I'm hoping that that what does not 193 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: kill you makes you stronger in this case because he's 194 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 3: a really great kid man. He's a great kid in 195 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: a in a very high pressure situation and didn't react 196 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 3: to it well. And I'm hopeful that he reacts what 197 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: happens later on that he becomes better for it somehow, 198 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: Someway and I love the support of his both Rob 199 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Thompson and the rest of the staff and players that 200 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: had for him. You know, that's the way they are. 201 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: Todd, you mentioned having bad days and nobody knows about it. 202 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: We've all been there. This is the price you pay 203 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: for having exceptional talent and rising to the top of 204 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: your profession just being Major League Baseball. He has optional talent. 205 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: He is in a place that thousands upon thousands upon 206 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: thousands of kids dream of being in, but they don't 207 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: have the talent to get there. Dodger Stadium, Bright Lights, 208 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: National TV, Thursday Night, Game five of the Game four 209 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: of the NLDS. He had the talent to get that. 210 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: He's the man in the arena, and he had a 211 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: tough day. Everybody saw it, and I think he's got 212 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: the character to bounce back. So yeah, anyway, that was 213 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: first pitch brought to you exclusively by our partners at 214 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. 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But yeah, you're right, Ruben, one 233 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent. It's You can stream the Alcs on Fox One, 234 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: from MLB postseason to NFL on Fox to Big Noons Saturdays. 235 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: With Fox One, you get it all Live. Start your 236 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: seven day free drial today. Offers are subject to change. 237 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: Go to foxwe dot com for complete terms and conditions. 238 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: Fox One Streaming Now. Jim, you mentioned no one of 239 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: you guys mentioned what the Dodgers hit in this series. 240 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: I was looking, yeah, I was looking at the numbers, 241 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: and it's just it's just wild to me. So the 242 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Phillies had four hits in Game four. They've batted two 243 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: twelve six fifty seven ops in the series. They scored 244 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: fifteen runs, thirty eight strikeout, seventeen walks. 245 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: Since terrible, that's pretty terrible. It's terrible, pretty terrible. So 246 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: he for team that's supposed to be offensively minded, that's terrible, terrible. SERI. 247 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: Philly's pitching. It did a good job on Freddy and 248 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: O Tony. 249 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and bets. 250 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: It continues a trend though, so since since Game two 251 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty three NLCS. Remember they took that 252 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: two l lead against the Diamondbacks. Everybody remembers. Since that game, 253 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: the Phillies and the postseason, they've hit one ninety nine 254 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: with a six to twenty six OPS. They've averaged only 255 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: three point two runs per game. So in those thirteen games, 256 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: they've scored three or fewer runs, and nine of them 257 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: they're zero for nine in those games. That's not shouldn't 258 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: really come as a surprise. You scored three runs for 259 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: least year, most likely going to lose. Right, most of 260 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: the time, they've scored four runs or more. Four times 261 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: they're three and one in those games. But here's so, 262 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: here's the crazy part, or a crazier part. You look 263 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: at what the Dodgers did this series. They batted one 264 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: ninety nine, They had a five to fifty seven OPS. 265 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: They scored thirteen runs, so yes, the Phillies outscored the 266 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: Dodgers in this series. They had forty one strikeouts and 267 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: twelve walks, so the Dodgers had a lower batting average, 268 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: lower OPS, more strikeouts, fewer walks. In the history of 269 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: best of five DS series, Division series and best of 270 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: five LCS. Remember back in the day the LCS was 271 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: only a five game series, the dodgers five to fifty 272 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: seven OPS is the forty second lowest of any team. 273 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: Only one team ranked above them ever won a series 274 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: that was the twenty fourteen Giants with the five point 275 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: fifty three OPS. The twenty fourteen Giants beat the Nationals 276 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: in the five game DS. So the Dodgers did something 277 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: that almost no team has ever done with worse offensive production, 278 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: with such awful offensive production, And that just kind of 279 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: jumped out at me just because I was like, because 280 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: I saw that number on the flight back, and I'm like, 281 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: five to fifty seven. 282 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: You can't. 283 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. They won this. That tells you how. 284 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: Poor their offense was. 285 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Yes, how poor the offense was, and how those little things, 286 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, pop up and loom big because 287 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: you couldn't scratch any runs across. 288 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: There's so many things to unpack about this series, and 289 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: it sort of strikes to the wards that they've had 290 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: over the last several years, particularly in the playoffs. When 291 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: you play playoff baseball, it is a different brand of baseball. 292 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: You have to be able to play a different brand 293 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: of baseball, especially if you do not bash, which this 294 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: team did not do and they have not done in 295 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: several years getting opportunities to bash. So they have to 296 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: be able to pick up the baseball and throw it 297 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: across the diamond. They have to be able to play 298 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: solid defense. They have to make the plays in the outfield. 299 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: They have to throw to the right basis, they have 300 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: to back up the basis. They have to play the 301 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: fundamental game that's necessary, move runners, do the little things. 302 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: So if you're not going to be able to bash 303 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: when especially during the course of a series in the playoffs, 304 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: you have to be able to play clean baseball. You 305 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: have to be able to play good fundamental baseball, which 306 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: is something that has to happen during the course of 307 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: the year, all year long, because you're not all of 308 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: a sudden going to say, shazam, now we get to, 309 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: you know, playoff time in October, and we haven't tightened 310 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: up these things. We don't do PfP well, we don't 311 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: bunt well, we don't move runners well, we are not 312 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: running the base as well. We don't make the plays 313 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: that are necessary to make you're going to lose. And 314 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: that's exactly what happened with the Phillies. And there was 315 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: some fundamental things that happened. There's some situational baseball things 316 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: that happened. When you don't hit the ball out of 317 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: the ballpark, you can have a lot of you're subject 318 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: to a lot of scrutiny because you're not playing the 319 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: game the way it's supposed to be played. And this 320 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: is not just the Phillies, this is across baseball. It 321 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: is astonishing to me, and this is a bigger picture thing. 322 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: It's astonishing to me that when you watch baseball games, 323 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: how different the game is in the playoffs and how 324 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: differently it's played during the course of the season. And 325 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: I don't understand why organizations don't understand how important the 326 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: fundamental piece of the game is, because when you get 327 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: when it's time to win, to actually win a game, 328 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: when you have to win a game, you have to 329 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: have strong fundamentals. Otherwise you're screwed, you're out. And I 330 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: believe in playing the game to win. And the fact 331 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: that these things are not stressed for the one hundred 332 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: and sixty two it shows up in these situations as 333 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 3: it did with the Phillies. 334 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you guys saw in the 335 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: story I wrote at MLB dot com, but in my 336 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: game story, I used a quote from Matt Strom and 337 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: I because I you know, I said, listen, I'm not 338 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: even the guy's teammate. I said, you're his teammate. How 339 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: fat you go for Ryan Kirker? And what went through 340 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: your mind when he made that? He panicked and he 341 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: said as soon as he let the ball out of 342 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: his hand. I said to myself, I wish as a 343 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: veteran player, I would have asked why we don't do 344 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: more PFPS and work on our fielding practice more throughout 345 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the season. 346 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, nobody gets on the field anymore, Todd. Listen, 347 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: when I was coaching in Boston and we were doing 348 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: some coaching stuff, I mean, I used to have to 349 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: take those guys out. They were so some of them 350 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: were so clueless with the Mets organization. Far as base running, 351 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: we used to do, like with the John Vukovich, you know, 352 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: work around around the world from first to home and 353 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: work on base running because it's stuff that doesn't get 354 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: worked on nearly enough anymore. It's stuff that's taken for granted. 355 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: You heard what they said about the months he play 356 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: and the wheel play. They hadn't they had never worked 357 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 3: on it once. They just did it by instinct, right, 358 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: And and so you know that that strikes where we 359 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: are in the game of baseball where those small things 360 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: are very, very rarely worked on. What's the last time 361 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: you saw somebody take infield outfield? 362 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: Never? 363 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: It doesn't happen because everybody's worried about everybody's health and 364 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: load management and all that bs. It's it's sort of 365 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: embarrassing for the game for me, who's loved the game 366 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: and watched the game, and you can call me the 367 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: old man on the on the lawn, but when you 368 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: don't work on those things, you can't expect people to 369 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: come through. When it's when there's eight million people watching 370 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: you and there's fifty thousand or sixty thousand in the stands. 371 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: That quote, it is funny because PfP is literally like 372 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: the first thing that teams work on in spring training, 373 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: and it's the thing that was the very last thing 374 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: that was missing to the Philly season. But that's a 375 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: damning quote. 376 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: And I will also say this, let me just say 377 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: this when we and I know all teams. It happens 378 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: with all teams because they rarely get on the field anymore, 379 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: even with batting practice. I mean, they take their ground 380 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: balls and they do their stuff, it's just not the same. 381 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: The big issue for me is that during the course 382 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: of the season. You don't really have outfielders throw to bases. 383 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: You don't have an infield outfield. There's so many things 384 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: that don't have. I know they don't do it in 385 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: the minor leagues. It's just insane to me and I 386 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: and to and to me, like when if you have 387 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: an expectation for a player to make a play. I mean, 388 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: we used to do pfps once a homestand like back 389 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: when I was a GM I know that they did 390 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: like once a homestand once every ten days, maybe once 391 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: on the road if they had like a long road trip. 392 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: I would take my outfielders as a you know, when 393 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: I was a Boston uh, we would throw to bases 394 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: like once every ten days. And I remember the trainers 395 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: saying to me, I'm so glad. In fact, it was 396 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Paul Bukite used to tell me when he was with Boston, 397 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm so happy that you long toss. I'm so happy 398 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: that you throw the basis because if they have to 399 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: do that in the game and they haven't aired it 400 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: out and they haven't done it like at one hundred percent, 401 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: they could get injured. They won't have the ability to 402 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: do it. It's just it's just strange to me that 403 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: these things don't happen anymore. 404 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: How much pushback did you get from that? Do you 405 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: ever get outfielders go like, come. 406 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: On, dude. They didn't because we said, hey, let's just 407 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: do it, and they were really respectful. I had great 408 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: respectful guys. They were like did they want to do it? 409 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Probably not, but they had to do it because in 410 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: my mind it was like Mookie Betts and Jackie Bradley 411 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: and Chris Young and Brockholt and Andrew Bennettendee. But these 412 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: are all guys that were like, Okay, I know I 413 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: got to do this. It's a pain in the ass, 414 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: but I got to do this because at some point 415 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to do it in the game, and 416 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: I at least want to be prepared to do it. 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: That doesn't really happen all that often. 418 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: I think we do need to point out Bobby Dickerson 419 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: gets his guys out there, and there has been improvement 420 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: with some of his troops, most notably Trey Turner. I mean, 421 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: it's not classic in field outfield, but they are out 422 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: there early and a lot of that early early work. 423 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: Has replaced, no question, some of the some of the 424 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: infield outfield, but those days infield outfield, you know, forty 425 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: five minutes before a game are over. 426 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 3: And this is not an indictment on Paco Figaroa at all. 427 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it just doesn't happen in the major leagues. 428 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: They do their drills, they go out there and do 429 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: their drills, but there's certain things that they don't do 430 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: because of the load management issue or whatever, that they 431 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: don't throw the basis of full tilt. They don't you know, 432 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: you know, hip balls down the line and do cutoffs 433 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: and relays. That just doesn't happen anymore during the course 434 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: of the season unless you do it in the game. 435 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: And I just feel like we've gotten to the point 436 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: in baseball universally in the major leagues because there's one 437 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two games where those things aren't worked 438 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: one enough, and then there's an expectation to be perfect. 439 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: When it's time to do it. You hope that that 440 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 3: relay comes in from right field and the second basement 441 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: throws a bullet. Why did many trio throw that guy 442 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: out at home plate that one time? And because they 443 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: had worked on it. It was the second and it's 444 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 3: something that they did naturally. 445 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: I gotta think Todd Day during that week off they 446 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: did some PF. 447 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: They did they did do PfP, They did do PfP 448 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: during I think what what Strom was saying was overall, 449 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't it wasn't work one now. 450 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: But he would be the first person to bitch to 451 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: have to do it probably. I'm just saying, if they 452 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: asked him to do PfP, you know, he'd probably say, 453 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: I can't believe we're doing PfP, Like, why do we 454 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: have to do this? I understand it. I understand him 455 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: saying that in the moment. Yeah, but he may be 456 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: the very first guy to say, why do we Why 457 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: the hell are we doing this? 458 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Heap that it matters right right, But you know that 459 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: those little things absolutely Yeah. We can go down the 460 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: list and look at all the little things that have 461 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: popped up in this series, and again, to me, it 462 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: all kind of goes back to the fact that the 463 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: Dodgers hit a five fifty seven. Ops did not hit 464 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: at all this series. O Tani was one for eighteen, 465 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Freddie was three for fifteen. But the Phillies couldn't score 466 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: any run. They couldn't outscore them, and they couldn't punch 467 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: those runs across. And you know, some of those little 468 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: plays maybe don't happen if the Phillies do their job 469 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: at the play. 470 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: When you hit, when you hit, and even if you 471 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: don't hit for the whole of the series, when you 472 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: get a big hit at the right time, it can 473 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: wipe out a mistake. You know, case in point, the 474 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: Oscar Hernandez makes a horrible fundamental play in the outfield 475 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: in Game one, right and then sticks one of the 476 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: seats to make people forget about it later in the game, 477 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: and that those runs were consequential because the Phillies didn't 478 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: build on their lead. 479 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: I think, like the base running play on that bunt 480 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: in Game two, when Nick Castiano's getting such a bad 481 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: jump at their base and so. 482 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: There's there's so many things to unpack about that. 483 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Dodgers they said they did the wheel 484 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: play once earlier in the year in Anaheim. But I mean, 485 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: if Max Munsey wheels and throws that ball down the 486 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: left field line, it's all of a sudden, there's no 487 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: glare on the Phillies' decision on their base running. It's 488 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: like they pulled it off and they've got to run 489 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: out of it. It's just such everything, such a fine 490 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: line in this game, and it comes down to the 491 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: word with a capital E, execution, right. You gotta execute pitches, 492 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: you gotta have good at bats, you gotta execute on defense, 493 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: and you gotta be sharp. And they weren't sharp. 494 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: That That was one of those situations in my mind 495 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: that once they showed the wheel play in the very 496 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: first pitch, that either you take it off or you go. 497 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: And this happened lot when I played. The third base 498 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: coach would come down the line and say, hey, they're 499 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: running the wheel. They're running a wheel play. If they 500 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: show it again, go ahead and slash. And that's what 501 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: they're taught to do. Topper talked about it, but he 502 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: really hasn't been in that situation maybe once in his 503 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: whole career in the four or five years he played 504 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: in the big leagus or even in the minor leagues 505 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: where he's had to like pull his batpack and swing 506 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: it or recognize and Stot's one of the more, i 507 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: mean most aware of players on their team. It's just 508 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: something that that hasn't been worked on, something that hasn't 509 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: been done, and something that you're not necessarily aware of. 510 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: He actually bunn at eight. I watched it. The bunt 511 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: was an excellent bunt and bounced thrice three times, two 512 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: long hops and one short hop. Before months he made 513 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: the play. Part of it was the fact that, you know, 514 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 3: Cassiano's got very very little secondary. It does not run well. 515 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: He you know, needed to extend his lead a little 516 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: bit as trient primary and secondary. There's so many things 517 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: to unpack there that you know, and. 518 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you take maybe if you take it off, you 519 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: just let stop take a shot at and doing it 520 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: the old fashioned way, pulling the ball, getting the runner 521 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: over and taking a chance. I mean the defense is moving, 522 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: you know. 523 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt bout it. 524 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: It's all onder the water under the bridge, right. 525 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: Right, Ruben, What do we have going on at Parks Casino? 526 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: It's all about the live bet or the bet on 527 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: the bet Parks app. It's a live bet, the baseball playoffs, 528 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: pro football, so much more. There's there's always another way 529 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: to win on the bet Parks online casino and sportsbook app. 530 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: Bet Parks is the only app I ever recommend. 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We're gonna be here all off season. 548 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna do some shows next week, really breaking down 549 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: where this team goes from here, free agency, trades, all 550 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. So make sure you keep coming to 551 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: the Philly Show if you want your Phillies fix. We 552 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: will be here for you, so check us out, but 553 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: before we go, I do wanted to address and get 554 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: your guy's thoughts. Rob Thompson was asked after Game five 555 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: if he expects to manage next season. He said, that's 556 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: out of his control, he said, And I liked how 557 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: he said this. He says, I'm not worried about that 558 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: right now. I've got sixty broken hearted people in that 559 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: clubhouse right now that I'm thinking about and that I 560 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: think that was a very sincere thought from Rob Thompson. 561 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, I know Rob a little bit, 562 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think that was BS. I think that 563 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: was the last thing on his mind as well. Do 564 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: you think I'm going to get fired next week? I 565 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: think David, I don't think he was thinking about that. 566 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: I think he was thinking about Ryan kirk Ring and 567 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarbur and jj El those guys. So I wanted 568 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: to ask you guys what you think. And again we're 569 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: going to talk about Schwarber's free agency. Is Nick Castiano 570 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: spack what do you do with j T? What do 571 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: you do with Ranger? You know, do you try to 572 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: bring back Harrison Batter all that stuff? But I wanted 573 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: to least address the manager, because that's been a hot 574 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: topic of conversation since the season ended. 575 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: For me, he should be back. You know, he's presided 576 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: of a ball club that you know, wins. Their win 577 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: total is consecutive consecutive league or consistently gone up each 578 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: of the four years, and the regular season still means something. 579 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: It's how you get to the postseason. So there's been 580 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: some a lot of success there. You know, I think 581 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: we pick apart his moves in the postseason, but when 582 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: I pick him apart, I can see the logic behind 583 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: every move. You can see the baseball logic behind every 584 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: move he makes. Sometimes just they don't work because the 585 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: player doesn't execute. It's still a game, a player's game, 586 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: and I think in a lot of ways throughout the 587 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: season and he gets the most out of his players. 588 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: I think they play for him. I think they've played 589 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: tight in the postseason. That's not necessarily Rob Thompson's fault. 590 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: So for me, he comes back. I do think the 591 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: organization at this level, the big League, I do think 592 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: there will be changes. I do think changes need to 593 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: be made, but I still believe in him as the 594 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: leader of this ball club. So for me, he would 595 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: be back, he would not be one of those changes, 596 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: but we'll see. 597 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned, I think he's one of 598 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: the best managers affilies have ever had. I love him 599 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: as a person, but also love him as a leader. 600 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: I think he handles things extremely well in this day 601 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: and age. His steadiness is the ability to get I 602 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: think the most in a lot of ways, the most 603 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: out of their players, put them in positions to have success. 604 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: That's all important stuff. Yes, can you question some of 605 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: the moves that he's made. I echo what Jim says. 606 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: There's a reason why he makes a move all the time. 607 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: He has something in mind, whether it's you know, whatever 608 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: the piece of information is, he always has a reason. 609 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: And you know, it's really up to the players to play. Ultimately, 610 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: this is a team that was built to hit, and 611 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: when you don't hit when you need to hit, it 612 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: puts the team in a very, very difficult position. They've 613 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: done a great job, but their pitching. I think changes 614 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: will be coming. I think that they're and we talked 615 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: about it in a offseason even last year. I thought 616 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: that they would try to get more hitters or more 617 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: people who make better contact, have better situational at bats 618 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: don't strike out as much, aren't you know, home run 619 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: or nothing type players. I expect there to be major changes, 620 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: whether it be on the staff or the players. Mostly 621 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: with the players. I think that there's going to be 622 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: some very significant changes there. I don't think they'll run 623 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: it back again, but I believe that Rob Thompson should 624 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: be back and should be at the Helm with the Phillies. 625 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: But I will say this, I've been with Dave Dombrowski 626 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: when he made changes in his staff. John Farrell won 627 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 3: two straight Al East titles, so the first time Boston 628 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: had ever done that ever in its history. Got knocked 629 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: out early in the playoffs twice, and John Farrell was 630 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: gone along with his staff. So he's not afraid to 631 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: make a move. And John Middleton wants his trophy back, 632 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: and if he feels that Rob Thompson is not the 633 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 3: right guy to take him there, who knows what will happen. 634 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: I have a feeling that they will be back, but shoot, 635 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: you never know. They may assess things and think differently 636 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: and move forward from there. But I will tell you 637 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: that there is some track record where it changes could 638 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: possibly be made and. 639 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: You don't know what they're talking about this weekend. They 640 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: might have gotten on that plane and said, listen, we 641 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: just didn't hit enough and we're going to really revamp 642 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: this lineup. We're going to maybe do this with the 643 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: pitching or or whatever the case may be. And then 644 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: you sit there over the weekend, you have some conversations 645 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: and you make a change. 646 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 2: Uh. 647 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: You know that's that's certainly happened before. It happened after 648 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: the four or five season, when you know ed Wade 649 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: was general manager for about a week and a half 650 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: and then David Montgomery finally decided to make a change. 651 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: As I recall, guys, am I right, am I remembering 652 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: that correctly. So ed warde was going to be the 653 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: general manager, he was going to continue on. And then 654 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: after about a week or so, Dave Montgomery had a 655 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: change her heart and said I need to make a change, 656 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: and so he made a change. So after after five yes, 657 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: so that could be in the works too. Yeah, so 658 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean they could be sitting there going, 659 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Rob how going to be pin this on Rob Thompson, 660 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, and then next Wednesday they could go I 661 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: think we got to change the manager. I don't know, 662 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: but I agree with you guys. I don't think the 663 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: issue was with the manager. You know, I've been in 664 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: I've been in his clubhouse before, where you hear a 665 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: lot of kind of comments about the manager, a little 666 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: chirping here and there. 667 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 3: You will not hear that from these guys. 668 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: You don't hear it from his guys. I mean, Nick 669 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: Cassious had his run ins I guess you could say, 670 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: in the dugout in Miami in June, and then he 671 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: spoke to us postgame about it in Arizona last month. 672 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: But other than that, you don't hear anybody. 673 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: Going that's an outlier right there, that Casiano's thing. And 674 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 3: sometimes it's a mirror something you have to look in 675 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: the mirror about to right right. 676 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: So it's not one of those situations where I think 677 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse people are going like this guy with 678 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: the lineup, or this guy with the moves, this guy 679 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: with how he handles me. It's what you know that 680 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: you don't you know, you don't hear that stuff. 681 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: The thing is, it still remains kind of an inflexible 682 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: roster for some contracts and contract links and age of 683 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: players the most the path of le resistance in terms 684 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 2: of change might be on the staff. But I hope 685 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: the manager returns. I don't think he deserves to be acts. 686 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: Changing this roster is not going to be easy, in 687 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: my opinion. I don't know that there's a lot of 688 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: value on some of these players. I think we'll find out, 689 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of tough contracts, and then you have, 690 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: you know, some of the other changes you can make 691 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: are in free agency, and you look at some of 692 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: their pending free agents, and you need those some of 693 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: those guys if you want to get back to where 694 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: you want to go. So it's a tough call. 695 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, Jim. I feel like if 696 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: they do make that change, it's more out of like, well, 697 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: we need we are inflexible on this side, and so 698 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: we let's we'll try to do something over here and 699 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: maybe hope that somebody else can punch them across the 700 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: goal line. 701 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: I will say this, they do have their players. While 702 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: they some of them performance wise made to be declining 703 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: as they get older, which will happen, they're still healthy 704 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: and they're still productive players, and so don't be surprised 705 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: by some moves that might be made where contracts are eaten. 706 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: Some stuff gets changed around. There's some things that could 707 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 3: happen because they are healthy and so there may be 708 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: some you know, some things that where you have a 709 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: little ingenuity where you can move the pieces around and 710 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 3: change things up by eating contracts, by doing different things, 711 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: and it will be fascinating. This is going to be, 712 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 3: to me, the most fascinating offseason that the Phillies have 713 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: had in years because of the pending free agency of 714 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: the four players in Beader probably better Ranger, Suarez, JT, 715 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: and Schwarber. I mean, you're looking at some pretty major 716 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: decisions that have to be made and uh, I mean, 717 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: I will be fascinated by what the front office does here. 718 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: There's a club option on Alvarado as well, so that's 719 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna be also going to be another very interesting one. 720 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 3: So, uh, lot of a lot of a lot. 721 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: Of things to discuss as and again, so check us 722 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: out next week. 723 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: We'll be back. 724 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: We'll have some shows next week beginning on Monday, where 725 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about this. 726 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 727 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: You know, if we appreciate everybody support of the show 728 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: as always, thank you so much for listening throughout the season. 729 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: We thought it would be a little bit longer postseason. 730 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: This year. 731 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: Go to the Phillieshowshop dot com if you want to 732 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: help support the show, swag it out yes, scan the 733 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: QR code on your screen, or go to the Phillies 734 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: show Shop dot com. Enjoy your weekend if you mus 735 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: possibly can. Was not a great weekend for Philadelphia sports 736 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: and in so many different ways, but especially for the Phillies. 737 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks, thanks everybody for watching and listening. 738 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: Smell your letter boys, Spell you Jim. 739 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 740 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 741 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.