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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody to the show. So excited to be here, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it feels like a long time, even though it hasn't well,

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Speaker 1: we're back now. It's been a crazy, crazy couple of

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Speaker 1: doing a whole tour of the East Coast, not really

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Speaker 1: not really to cities. Yeah, I mean, you all know

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Speaker 1: we separated for Thanksgiving. We talked about that. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: then immediately three days after Diana got home from Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: she took off from Miamie Miami Baby. Yes, it was

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Speaker 1: my dear friend Cherry's bachelorette party, our dear friend Cherry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we love Cherry and Jason her husband, and they got

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Speaker 1: They were supposed we were supposed to do this. You know,

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Speaker 1: get married over zoom and have like a really nice

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Speaker 1: I mean they were to get We watched it over zoom.

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's important to know. They were together and

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Speaker 1: they got married while we watched on zoom and um,

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Speaker 1: but she but they were both like, we still want

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Speaker 1: get some of that kind of real quote unquote real weddings,

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Speaker 1: we ended up being in my actually better trips than

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Speaker 1: we had planned originally. We're going to go in August,

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Speaker 1: because it was our Miami Art Week while we were there.

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Speaker 1: And she's a designer, graphic designer, so I mean, art

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Speaker 1: well as ours, all of ours. So we were all like, oh, say,

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Speaker 1: we're about to take Miami by storm, and we did.

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Speaker 1: Miami's so fun. Yeah. I love Miami. So now I

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Speaker 1: want to go back. Yeah, I hope. So because I

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Speaker 1: was very next year, I was very jealous. I have

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Speaker 1: not been, I know, I had to. I took a

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm definitely gonna show this all

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Speaker 1: to Eli, and then I was like, do I show

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Speaker 1: it all to Liar? Is that so annoying? Like look

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Speaker 1: at all this cool stuff. I said it was cool.

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Speaker 1: I was glad to be there. Um, but but we're

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Speaker 1: back on track here, we're both here together, nobody's nobody's

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. We're we're getting back into it. We can

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Speaker 1: finally just focus back on the show again. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's get back on track with some feedback

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Speaker 1: from listeners, because we had so many great things from

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Speaker 1: we want to get back to reading some of your

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Speaker 1: emails on the show and stuff. So I think we

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Speaker 1: see if we've got a oh we do bail call? Awesome?

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Speaker 1: All right, this one is from Mara g And they say, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Eli and Diana. I've been following your show since the

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Speaker 1: very beginning. I'm not sure how I found it. I

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Speaker 1: think it came to me in a vision, maybe a

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Speaker 1: fever dream, and then when I woke up there was

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Speaker 1: your podcast in my feed. Well. I wish it more

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Speaker 1: people would have a damn fever dream about. Really, I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's our primary source of advertising right now,

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Speaker 1: is people's fever dreams. They continue onto the story. My

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Speaker 1: partner and I had our baby on November five. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: and your episode on Chun y Sao and Chung pots.

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Speaker 1: I kept me staying while we waited through the honestly quiet,

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Speaker 1: him Eli and your honor. Oh my god, what my god, babe,

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Speaker 1: son Eli for the rest of his life. Anyway, keep

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Speaker 1: up the good work. I will continue to tell my friends, neighbors, uncles, aunts,

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Speaker 1: and random passers by about this dope show. Ma Thank you, Mara,

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Speaker 1: what a great email you got. You you you tricked us.

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Speaker 1: when your son grows up, you can tell them all

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Speaker 1: about that process and how your birth was very boring.

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Speaker 1: But here's the podcast I listened to to get through

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Speaker 1: this vintage podcast. I'll be like, wow, I gotta stream it. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what is this project into my brain? I imagine podcasts

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Speaker 1: That was That was what got Mara through his birth. Well,

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Speaker 1: very exciting. Thank you for writing in of course, y'all.

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Speaker 1: If you have any stories you want to share, comments,

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. Romance and I heart media. Dot

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Marrow. We need more people like you. Jumping

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Speaker 1: about an amazing couple that, of course you know their names,

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Speaker 1: before we got into this, Annie Oakley and Frank Butler.

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Speaker 1: Annie Oakley, of course an historical figure famous. You know

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Speaker 1: Frank Butler. Now, if you've seen Annie Gets Your Gun

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Speaker 1: you away. Gun puns, Let's go, I don't like guns. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Francis Butler. Francis Butler born in Ireland, uh and he

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Speaker 1: Frank soon realized amongst all these jobs that he really

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Speaker 1: that I could shoot the shoot the face off that

425
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: pigeon over there. And Frank's like, yeah, I think the

426
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: pigeons gonna be just fine. And I would miss and

427
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: Frank would shoot and the pigeon would catch it in

428
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: his mouth and then they'd high five him in the

429
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: pigeon and uh, please um, because that's how good he was.

430
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: But in eighty five, Frank was in Cincinnati for a

431
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving show at an arena called the Colosseum. And the

432
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: guy who owned the hotel he was staying in his

433
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: name seriously was Jack Frost. Yes, Jack Frost. Uh, and

434
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: he had he ice skated over to take with his

435
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: little blue hair and uh. And he said, hey, Frank,

436
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: I've got a challenger for you. And Frank's like, well,

437
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: it's always so cold when you go check Frost. But

438
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: he says, Frank, I've got a challenger, and I will

439
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: wager a hundred dollars that this mystery sharpshooter could beat you.

440
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: Now that's about dollars in today's money, so this is

441
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: a big bet. And Frank is like, oh, Jack, I

442
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: can't take your money like that. If I put you

443
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: out of business, who's gonna who's gonna bring snowball fights.

444
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna skate around and make a little foggy designs

445
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: in the window panes, but Jack Frost insisted and Frank

446
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: was like, all right, you know it's it's your funeral

447
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: or not. You know a very good aim. Yeah, I

448
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: won't shoot you by accident, I'll tell you that much.

449
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: So Frank shows up on Thanksgiving Day for this show.

450
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: The crowd is packed. Everyone's all excited because there's no

451
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Macy's Thanksgiving Dave Bread. They don't have anything to do

452
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving back then that wouldn't happen until, by the way,

453
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: they parade. It's a Macy's parade, So they got some

454
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: time to wait. Yeah, there's a cool sharp shooting show

455
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: in town. Let's go see that. That'll be fun for

456
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: the kids. So the host of the show comes out

457
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: and you know, he just his his pattern. He's like, welcome, Welcome,

458
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: Welcome to the most thrilling play of sharp shooter you'll

459
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: ever witness. You're about to see a man who can

460
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: shoot the wings off a house slide from a thousand

461
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: yards away. He gave me this haircut with three shots

462
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: from a Winchester rifle from seventy five yards. Look at

463
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: these banks. Listen to these banks. With a click and

464
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: a bang, he can shoot the spinach out of your

465
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: cheeth with his eyes closed. Yes, I can't wait to

466
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: see this guy gody candy and everyone cheers. Frank comes out,

467
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: he bows, He probably bends over backwards and shoots upside down,

468
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: and the bullet cuts a rope that drops a banner

469
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: and says Happy Thanksgiving bitches and the crows, and then

470
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: the announcer says, but today he has a challenger, a

471
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: shooter who claims to be better than the rest, an

472
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: unknown force with the name is sharp as a very

473
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: sharp thing, like a razor or small animals too, Those

474
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: are sharp, very sharp. They hurt more than you think.

475
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: She's a fifteen year old girl from nowhere, miss Annie

476
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: Moses or Mosey, depending on your store, and out walks

477
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: little Annie. She's tiny and rough and spunky, and everybody

478
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: just goes dead silent, because it's not like there aren't

479
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: women sharpshooters or anything. There there are. It's not like

480
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: chickens walking out with a gun or something. But the

481
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: site of this very young girl is definitely a shock

482
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: to everybody. So probably Frank just laughs, right. I mean,

483
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: it's like that classic scene where the cocky man is

484
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: like this little girl. I don't think so, and then

485
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: he gets his come up and for his arrogance when

486
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: she shows off and she's like, you shouldn't have been

487
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: so quick to underestimate me. You know that that scen

488
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: He hangs his head in shade, but he can't help

489
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: but begrudgingly admire her. Right, yea, we've all seen this.

490
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Um No, that's cliche and stupid. In reality, Frank immediately

491
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: new there's no way he's going to beat the Oh

492
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: he said quote, I was a beaten man the moment

493
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: she appeared for I was taken off guard. Yeah, yeah,

494
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean this is where we're going to get into

495
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: poor Frank's legacy a little bit, right because in the movies,

496
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: like we said, Annie Oakley five was a movie, or

497
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: of course the popular musical Annie Gets Your Gun, um

498
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: or there was a nineteen seventies six film called Buffalo

499
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Bill and the Indians. All of these portray as is

500
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: pointed out in True West magazine dot com that Frank

501
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: was quote a philandering cad, jealous of his wife's skill

502
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: with firearms, and capable of resorting to pathetic and destructive

503
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: measures to assert his manhood. But that's not Frank at

504
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: all in reality Frank was actually amazed by Annie the

505
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: moment he saw her. He basically thought like, hey, you know,

506
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: if this girl came up to challenge me, and you know,

507
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: my my buddy Jack Frost over there is willing to

508
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: lay down a hundred clams on it, there's no way

509
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: this girl isn't incredib right, Like I could. I could

510
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: tell from here this is going to be something special.

511
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: And so he's totally caught off guard. And their competition,

512
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: the thing they were betting on was this. It was

513
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: this cute little game where they release a bunch of

514
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: birds and they shoot as many as they can each right,

515
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: And I first read this and I'm thinking like, okay,

516
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: so like you know, oh I got three and you

517
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: got five? No, no no, no. Annie killed twenty three birds

518
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: and Frank only killed twenty one. So I guess, sorry,

519
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: birds losers in this game? Did they let off fifty

520
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: birds and he killed most something and they only got half?

521
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they got most of them. I mean

522
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: they were both very good, you know, so cold Jack

523
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: Frost so you know, poor went out for the birds.

524
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: But this was Annie's first ever big match and it

525
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: was Frank's first ever defeat. Amazing what a meat cute

526
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, Frank was not a sour puss or a

527
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: sore loser or a general piece of ship in anyway

528
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: like we stand Frank. After the match, he gave Annie

529
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and her family free passes to his exhibition at the Colosseum,

530
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: which is pretty generous for again, a traveling showman who

531
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of money, who just lost a

532
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on this. And Annie walked in. She is

533
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: pretty impressed with the show and all this cool stuff

534
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: going on. Then from across the room she saw him.

535
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: His name was George. They locked eyes and Annie fell

536
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: immediately in love. Her heart was full, her eyes were beaming.

537
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Without even thinking, she ran over to George and kissed

538
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: him right on his face. Now, George, it was Frank's

539
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: standard poodle. I get this. I wouldn't mean I'd be

540
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: like what I got to meet the dep So Annie's done.

541
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: She's like, this dog is my dog? Now sorry, and

542
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: Frank saw them hitting it off. He totally smiled. But

543
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: it was time for the show to start and George

544
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: was part of the show, so he whistled the dog

545
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: over and Annie stood in the wings watching the act

546
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: and Frank whispered something to George and then put an

547
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: apple on his head. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

548
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Because any time a sharpshooter of any weapon type put

549
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: an apple on someone's head, uh yeah, that can only

550
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: mean one thing, right, I'm never letting I don't care

551
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: how good a shot you are, you putting ship on

552
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: my head. Look, I'm never going to even put an

553
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: apple on my head because I feel like that's just

554
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: an invitation for some of the just in case there's

555
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: a sharpshooter around, keep this apple away. But yeah, exactly,

556
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: that's exactly what the plan was. Going to shoot this

557
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: apple off. And George stood perfectly amazed, lee still, while

558
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Frank walked to the other side of the stage and turned.

559
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: And Annie's probably a little nervous, thinking, dude, you missed

560
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: two birds. I like this dog. Let's not have a

561
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: tragedy right now in front of all these people. And

562
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: Frank raises his pistol, extends his arm aimes carefully and

563
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh Frank, I got nervous. But the

564
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: apple popped off George's head and landed safely next to him,

565
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: and George then picked up the murdered apple in his mouth,

566
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: walked over to Annie and dropped it at her feet,

567
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: and she's like near tears from the tension and the

568
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: excitement and the good, good, good boy dog George. Oh

569
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, that would freak me. That is freaking me out.

570
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: In fact um speculation station, Um, So what what do

571
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: you supposed to happen to all the other dog us

572
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: that Frank was training for his show? Because I feel like,

573
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, any time you learn a new skill, you

574
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: have to be bad at it first, you have to

575
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: fail several times. So was George just the last dog? No,

576
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: don't say that, Oh my god. Hopefully he put it

577
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: on like a you know, like a baseball batch. Sure,

578
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: a few times and then tried living things. Honestly, I'm

579
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: sure that he did, because Frank was a dog lover

580
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: and he was a dog lover, and in fact, together

581
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: throughout their life they had a couple of dogs, and

582
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: one of their dogs very famously their dog. There's portraits

583
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: of them together, beautiful. They love dogs. So you know,

584
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that probably Frank never shot a dog

585
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: in this episode, Hoping to fix Frank's Frank's reputation, let

586
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: us not describe a bunch of dog murder to him,

587
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: No doubtful. But anyway, they just we were impressed with

588
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: each other, Frank and Annie, and they started getting real

589
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: flirty and cute, you know, like Cupid had loaded up

590
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: his Smith and Wesson Model one single action revolver and

591
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: he had blown a twenty two caliber hole right through

592
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: their hearts. And yeah, she's like fifteen at the time,

593
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, Frank's like eight to ten years older than her.

594
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: So you know whatever, you guys know this show, we

595
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: touched on it. It's there. It's weird now, it was

596
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: less weird than I don't know what to say. Moving on,

597
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: We'll just kind of put it behind us, um as

598
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: we do with many couples that we talked about on

599
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: this show. We just say different times and we move on.

600
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: But Frank continued his tour and he never stopped thinking

601
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: about Annie. Back home in Cincinnati, he would send her

602
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: letters and candy and he signed them all that they

603
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: were from George. Oh my god, cute. I'm guessing there's

604
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: a little pop print. Oh my god, please put his

605
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: paw and some ink. And the two of them had

606
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: had similar difficult childhoods. They had had to learn early

607
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: on how to take care of themselves, and of course

608
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: they managed to ease their financial struggles by getting really

609
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: good at shooting stuff. They had a lot in common,

610
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: and neither of them were interested in smoking, drinking, gambling.

611
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: They didn't really have any vices to speak up. They're

612
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: just like, we like shooting guns and hanging with dogs,

613
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: like that's my life. So before long they were just

614
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: totally obsessed with each other. But Annie's family was hesitant.

615
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, but he's ten years older than you,

616
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: which you know, we just said, Um, he's got two

617
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: kids and he's divorced, which is super gross in this

618
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: day and age. Worst of all, he's a performer. Oh

619
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: gros so gross. But when Frank came to visit them,

620
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: they saw how charming and kind he was, and how

621
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: much he loved Annie and how well he treated her,

622
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: and they were kind of like, well, they amn, we're

623
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: not going to do much better than this. When's the wedding?

624
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: This is looking great? And when's the wedding is still

625
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: a good question, honestly, because there is some debate over

626
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: when the wedding actually was. Most historians agree that it

627
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: was probably in eighteen seventy six, which would have been

628
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: the year after they met, but Frank has it listed

629
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: as June of eighty two, six years later. Um. This

630
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: might be. There's a couple of different ideas about why

631
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: that this year discrepancy is there. Maybe because Frank wasn't

632
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: really divorced yet so they had to kind of say

633
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: their marriage or do their marriage officially later on. Um.

634
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Or it's also possible I read a historian say that

635
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Annie might not have been super forthcoming about her actual

636
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: age the year that they met, when she was sixteen,

637
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: So maybe Frank found out later old she was and

638
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: was like, uh, maybe maybe I shouldn't have married a

639
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: sixteen year old, So can we just push that date

640
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: forward and tell people we waited until you were twenty two?

641
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: Slightly better? So it's unknown, but regardless, their marriage was

642
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: a happy one, full of mutual admiration and respect and support.

643
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: And Frank wasn't just a kind man with a hawkeye

644
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: aim and a perfect dog. He was also an amateur poet.

645
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: Perfect man. So let's go on down to poetry corner

646
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: and you. But Frank Butler has written about his wife,

647
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Annie Mosey. There's a charming little girl. She's many miles

648
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: from here. She's a loving little fairy. You'd fall in

649
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: love to see her. Her presence would remind you of

650
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: an angel in the skies. And you bet I love

651
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: this little girl with the rain drops in her eyes. Precious.

652
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: You can just see it folded up in a little

653
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: Valentine George's pop right on the front and like a

654
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: little he shoots like a bullet through the eye. Her name,

655
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh everything they owned, that hole has When Annie and

656
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: I first made love while we were shooting with impeccable aim.

657
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: So they get married, and Frank paid for Annie to

658
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: go back to school, which she had always wanted to do,

659
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: because he was continuing his tour and you know, she

660
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: was school age, so she finish up her studies, um,

661
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: and he toured with a shooting partner named John Graham.

662
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: But then in two John got sick and they needed

663
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: someone to fill in. Annie had just you know, finished

664
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: your school and come back to meet up with Frank

665
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: and John and kind of follow their tour for a

666
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: little while. And so Frank asked, Annie, Hey, why don't

667
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: you join the act. All you have to do is

668
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: just hold up these targets and you know, and I'll

669
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: shoot him right out of your hands. There, you know me,

670
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. She's like absolutely, So she jumps

671
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: on stage holds the targets for him. And Frank had

672
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: this bit where he would miss purposefully a couple of

673
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: times because the audience would get real nervous and on

674
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: the edge of their seats. They'd get all excited. Is

675
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: he gonna shoot the girl? I hope not? You know, um,

676
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: but this time he just couldn't hit the target. It,

677
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, missed intentionally a few times, but then he

678
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: couldn't hit it intentionally, And so the audience is starting

679
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: to get restless, and a man stands up and says,

680
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: all right, let the girl shoot, And everybody in the

681
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: crowd is like, yeah, let the girl should We want

682
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: to see the girl shoot. So Frank says all right,

683
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: He grabs the target and he holds it up and

684
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: Annie takes a shot. She misses the first time, but

685
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: the second time she blew the target right out of

686
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: his hand. Frank later wrote quote, the crowd went into

687
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: an uproar, and when I attempted to resume my act,

688
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: I was howled down and Annie continued, man great. They

689
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: were like no, no, no, no, girl. I mean because

690
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Frank knew a good show, all right. Frank is a

691
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: good producer. He knew what the crowd wanted and he

692
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: wanted them to have it. So he was totally fine

693
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: stepping to the side and letting his wife take center

694
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: stage for the rest of the night. And he knew

695
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: right then and there that they were a performing team.

696
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: He wrote, quote from that day to this, I have

697
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: not competed with her in public shooting. The show was

698
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: rebranded for the two of them, and though no one

699
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: knows exactly why she chose it, Annie decided to start

700
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: using the stage name Annie Oakley, and eventually the stage

701
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: name just became her name and she never went by

702
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: Annie Moses again. And yeah, I love that. They never

703
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: competed again. It's just a two person show. You know,

704
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: that guy's reloading and I can keep shooting while the

705
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: audience keeps maentertained. So they performed together, but it was

706
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: never about am I better than you? That wasn't part

707
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: of their marriage at all, and it wasn't part of

708
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: their show either. I love that because that that is

709
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: what you would take home with you, exact sense of competition,

710
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: that tension of like you one tonight or you lost tonight,

711
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: you could take that home and it could cause a

712
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: lot of strife. So Butler and Oakley travel to the

713
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: country and they started to make a huge name for themselves.

714
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a huge show. Everyone wanted to see these

715
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: married sharpshooters not shoot each other. But in the coming years,

716
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Annie's fame did start to grow way more than Frank's.

717
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: And Frank, you know, he had started this whole touring

718
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: sharpshooter show thing, and he was used to being the

719
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: headlining act and the center of attention, and he recalled

720
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: all the years where the crowds used to chant his name,

721
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: and he thought to himself, well that was nice, and

722
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: now it's this for her. And he spent less and

723
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: less time on stage, and he took on more of

724
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: a managerial position. He knew that they were partners and

725
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: that her success was his success. I love that Frank

726
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: and Annie is like way down with all the medals

727
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: and awards, She's winning everywhere. She had a trick where

728
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: she held a little mirror in her hand and she

729
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: would put the rifle backwards over her shoulder and would

730
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: shoot targets behind her just by looking in her little

731
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: hand mirror, and at the end of her set, her

732
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: signature move was to skip off stage and do a

733
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: cute little kick in the air before she exited. So cute. Meanwhile,

734
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: Frank's in the back room just counting stacks a cash

735
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: that are growing this and being perfectly happy with their

736
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: current arrangement. And then they got a huge offer to

737
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: join Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, an international touring sensation

738
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: that would make Annie a true shooting star. And now

739
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: you're about to feel like a target as these commercials set.

740
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: There's sights on you. We'll be right back and welcome back.

741
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: So William Cody was this U S. Army scout who

742
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: after the Civil War had been contracted to provide the

743
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: Kansas Pacific Railroad workers with meat. And here's a little

744
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: throwback to our recent Chris Crow And while not the

745
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Crane episode where we talked about this um, he was

746
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: sent to kill Buffalo in order to do this to

747
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: provide all these workers with me. And we talked a

748
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: lot in that episode about the many reasons that the

749
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: US government aggressively tried to wipe out the Buffalo in

750
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, and a lot of that was to

751
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: make things harder for the indigenous tribes in the Great Plains. Um.

752
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: We don't need to get back into the whole thing again,

753
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: but go back and listen out of the episode, because

754
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating and heartbreaking to hear how the all

755
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: entire population of Buffalo was wiped out, um for colonialism, basically,

756
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: just so they couldn't feed themselves they would have to

757
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: rely on the US government. UM. Mixed into all this

758
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: was of course William Cody's job of going to kill

759
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: as many buffalos he could. Uh, you know, the stated

760
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: reason was to feed all these railroad workers. UM. I

761
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: think the umbrella reason was to continue to take over

762
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: the Great Plains. And in an eighteen month period, Cody

763
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: was purported to have killed over four thousand buffalo by himself. Jeez,

764
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: the second worst Buffalo Bill after O. J. Simpson. And

765
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: in three he developed Buffalo Bill's Wild West in Nebraska.

766
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: His publicist, Arizona John Burke made the show a sensation

767
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: by getting celebrity endorsements, using press kits and publicity stunts,

768
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: purchasing billboards, and licensing merchandise. So Arizona John's kind of

769
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: like an early club promoter. He's out here with flyers

770
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: all over on the strip. And in five the name

771
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: Annie Oakley was a household name, so Buffalo Bill and

772
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Arizona John agreed they had to have her for the show. Now,

773
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: their shows usually started with a horseback parade, and they

774
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: had displays of sharp shooting racing or rodeo bull riding,

775
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: and it was all framed around historical re enactments. Anyone

776
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: want to guess what in eighteen eighties Western historical re

777
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: enactment was not really surprise. It was super racist demonification

778
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: of American Indians. They liked to show the Battle of

779
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: Little Big Horn, a k A. Custer's last stand, and

780
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: in the battle, Custer and all his men were killed

781
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: by Indians. At the end, Buffalo Bill would ride in

782
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: and then act all sad because he was too late

783
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: to help out. And then he would grab the lead

784
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: Indian in that scene, who was named Yellow Hair, and

785
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: scalp him and he'd hold it up and shout to

786
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: the audience the first scalp for Custo. Oh, of course

787
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: allos white people went wild for it. Yeah, yeah, I'm

788
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: assuming this is a stage scalping, and yeah, let's not.

789
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Let's just throw that in there in case you're worried,

790
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: it's true and and you know what, we'll have a

791
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: quick fling with history here. Yeehaw Buffalo Bill. Actually, I

792
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: mean he did employ a lot of indigenous people in

793
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: his show, um. And he included a lot of Mexicans

794
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: as well, and some of their shootouts that they re enacted. UM.

795
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, he was hiring people of

796
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: color to play themselves. He wasn't using brown face. So

797
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: that's good. Is something, It was something. It's tough. It's

798
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: like we're you know, I think you and I talked

799
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: about this a while ago, but we were talking about

800
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: some of the Asian actors in Hollywood and they were

801
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: sort of talking about that like early in their career

802
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: the only parts they ever got were like really stereotypical,

803
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: terrible parts, and they had this struggle, you know, inside themselves,

804
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: sort of like, on one hand, this is stereotypical and

805
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: awful and not the representation I'm looking for. On the

806
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: other hand, there needs to be more of me and

807
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: my face in in Hollywood. So I need to take

808
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: the jobs that are available to me, and they, unfortunately

809
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: are only these racist stereotypes. What do I do do

810
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: I not take the job as a boycott of that

811
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: and maybe have an effect maybe not, Or do I

812
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: just take it and do my best with it and

813
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: try to make a platform for myself to speak out

814
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: about how shitty it is, right? I think that's tough.

815
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: It is tough because I mean, these shows definitely perpetuated

816
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: really negative stereotypes of you know, especially the Great Plains Indians,

817
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: who the US was often fighting with at this time too.

818
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Custer's last stand, the Battle a bit Little

819
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: Big Horn was a huge deal um where the American

820
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: Indians won, and rather than like, you know, being like, oh,

821
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: you won, I guess we'll back off, they instead sent

822
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: thousands more troops in uh and killed a lot of

823
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: people for it. And meanwhile, you've got these Wild West

824
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: shows where everyone's cheering that on because they portray these people,

825
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: as you know, as horrible monsters and it's awful. But

826
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: one of the more popular figures that Buffalo Bill employed

827
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: in his show was Chief Sitting Bull. He was a

828
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: leader of the Hunk Papa Council of the Lakota tribe

829
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: who had led his people in a resistance against the

830
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: U S military and government policies. There's this website breaking

831
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: character dot Com that has a really great summary of

832
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Antiocly story because it

833
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: compares them back to and he Gets Your Gun the

834
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: musical and how wrong. Although that shows interpretations these characters

835
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: are and Chief Sitting Bowl is one of the ones

836
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: that they break down in a really interesting way. He um,

837
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: after seeing Indigenous people betrayed several times by the US government,

838
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: after they've made arrangements and then just done whatever they wanted,

839
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: Sitting Bowl refused to ever again allow a treaty that

840
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: would force his people onto a reservation. Right, he said,

841
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: I've seen that, I've fought against that, and what you

842
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: do after we get to reservations is awful and this

843
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: promise is always broken. Now. This stance made him very popular.

844
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: He soon became the supreme leader of the Lakota Sioux

845
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: that he was the first person ever given that title,

846
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: and he led them to victory many times, including the

847
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Battle of Little Bighorn. That was his victory. And like

848
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: we said, basically after that, after Custer was killed, the U.

849
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: S Army went easy. They sent thousands more troops and

850
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: Sitting Bowl and his people all had to flee to Canada,

851
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: and they stayed there for four years. Uh. He even

852
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: refused amnesty when they offered him a pardon, he said, no,

853
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back. Um. But eventually they were having

854
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: a hard time finding food, and so he was forced

855
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: to make an agreement with the US government. Uh. He

856
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: surrendered in exchange for amnesty for his people, and he

857
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: was a prisoner for two years before they sent him

858
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: to go live on the Standing Rock reservation. And while

859
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: he was at Standing Rock in Sitting Bowl, happened to

860
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: meet up with Annie Oakley, and he was so amazed

861
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: by her sharp shooting skills that he offered her sixty

862
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: five dollars to get a photograph of them together, which

863
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: sounds like a normal price. You might pay it like

864
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: dragon con or something about what I paid for our

865
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: picture with Evangeline Lily right, right, A treasured possession in

866
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: this household. But what was sixty five dollars back then?

867
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: Let's look at our machine and can you can pull

868
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: the adding machine one thousand, seven hundred and sixty two

869
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: dollars today? I don't think i'd pay that for the

870
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: Evangeline Lily. No, absolutely sorry, Evangeline, I love you, but

871
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: no I don't have it? How don't have it? And

872
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: Annie it was just as impressed was Sitting Bowl, which

873
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: I think you should be dollars to that. What would

874
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: that photograph be worth today? Certainly more than oh my god.

875
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: And she was just so kind and modest. She had

876
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: a ton of respect for Sitting Bowl. He felt like

877
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: she was supernaturally gifted to be able to shoot the

878
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: way that she did, and he reportedly asked if he

879
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: could adopt her as his daughter, and that this was

880
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: a symbolic adoption. But the two of them became friends

881
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life, and he gave her

882
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: the Lakota name what Tony Cecilia, which means little sure shot,

883
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: which little sh shot kind of sounds like a Beach

884
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: Boys song I can get here and going like your set. Yeah,

885
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: you don't know what I get So shortly after and

886
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: he joined Buffalo Bill show in five. She introduced Sitting

887
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Bowl to Buffalo Bill and he put the chief in

888
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: his show as well. Sitting Ball came in. He did

889
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: a four month stint where literally all he did was

890
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: right around the arena once and you know, show off

891
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: to everybody in his garb. Yeah, and he got fifty

892
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: bucks a week, which today is about four hundred dollars,

893
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: and he made a small fortune selling autographs and photographs,

894
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: although he did give a lot of his money away

895
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: to the homeless. So I feel like, if anything, he

896
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, let me make some money off

897
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: these assholes. I guess, so that that's got to be

898
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: the only I mean. But also a lot of historians

899
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: say that he was very much pushing for let's move

900
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: past this kind of mentality, like, we've got to find

901
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: a piece between our people. It's the only way forward.

902
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, we can keep fighting forever, but it's just

903
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: going to be more of my people get slaughtered, you know,

904
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: more of your people die, and they will never end

905
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: at any rate. He worked the show for four months,

906
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: went back to Standing Rock, but in eighteen ninety, a

907
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: few years after he left the show, federal agents were

908
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: afraid that he was going to flee the reservation and

909
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: support all these anti American movements, so they ordered his arrest,

910
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: and during a struggle between his followers and the police,

911
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: Sitting Bowl was shot and killed by Standing Rock policeman. Yeah,

912
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: let's not forget Standing Rock. Of course, much in the

913
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: news in the past few years because of the pipeline

914
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: that right through the Lakota Reservation, and a lot of

915
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: the protests that happened out there were very violently received

916
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: by the police. So this is like kind of a topical,

917
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: still topical if it was problem same over later. But

918
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: back at the show, Annie was the top paid performer

919
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: after Buffalo. Bill himself was pretty cool second after the

920
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: guy's name is on the show. In seven, they packed

921
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: up the show, including the horses, Buffalo and Elk, and

922
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: they sailed to London to perform in Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee,

923
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: which is like the fiftieth anniversary of her coronation, which

924
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: is cool. They had like a weird Noah's Ark going

925
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: over Victoria in England, and the Queen herself, was notably reclusive,

926
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: even came out to watch, so this is like she

927
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: was like, I need to see the ship with my

928
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: own eyes. And they played London for six months, where

929
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: more than two point five million people came to see

930
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: the show, and they loved Annie's modest demeanor. She refused

931
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: to wear ball gowns and kept her her homemade dresses

932
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: at parties and balls, so people liked too. They were

933
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: like she's down girl. You know, she's not trying to

934
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: pose and like act like something she's not. And several

935
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: people even proposed to her. So that's pretty cool British lords.

936
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm feeling myself. Meanwhile, Frank is just

937
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: continuing to be the world's greatest sport and the ultimate

938
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: supportive husband. Frank Trust Magazine says that on at least

939
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: one occasion, Frank was mistaken for Annie's butler, which he

940
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: just laughed off. Do you think that? Do you think?

941
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, I am a butler, but I'm

942
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: not the butler and this is my then this is

943
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: Frank Butler, and they think that butler, this is Frank Butler.

944
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: He's like, I do know butling. But he was like,

945
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: what are you know, funny mistake. He's just an old

946
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: town guy. And one time the King of Senegal had

947
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: come to see the show. He was in London, and

948
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: he went up to Buffalo Bill, thinking that Buffalo Bill

949
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: was responsible for Annie Oakley, and he offered to purchase

950
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: her to come back to Senegal and shoot tigers that

951
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: had been attacking his villages. Wow. This also Frank just

952
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: laughed off. He was like, you know this is silly.

953
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They were still married. There was no

954
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: threat to his pride or his marriage. It was it

955
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: was not a big deal, and it was just funny

956
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: thing that happened. And Frank handled all their finances. He

957
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: worked as Annie's publicist, her travel agent, and even her

958
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: stage extra. He would come on sometime and throw glass

959
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: balls into the air and Annie would shoot him down

960
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: the first you know, big sparkly show, really cool stuff,

961
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: and Frank loved every minute of it. I just love

962
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: that so much that he just has such a good

963
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: sense of humor about this type of thing. I mean,

964
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: especially in a time when you wouldn't, you know, be like,

965
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm my wife's butler, Like what are you talking? He

966
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: was the King of Senegal, was like, will you ask

967
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: her butler if she she could come? Like butler refused.

968
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: My butler said I couldn't. I'm so sorry. In a

969
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: second tour of Europe in eight nine, through France, Germany, Italy,

970
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: and Spain, they saw tremendous poverty across these countrysides, and

971
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: it was the beginning of their lifelong commitment to donate

972
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: money to charities and orphanages. Um Frank and Annie never

973
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: had children of their own. It's unknown if this was

974
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: by choice or biology or whatever, um, but they both

975
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: knew the hardships of growing up in poverty and having

976
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: to work at a young age, and they were like

977
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: super committed to fighting against that for children everywhere. They're like,

978
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: that shouldn't happen anymore. And in Annie got another famous

979
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: invitation from our old friend Thomas Edison, who wanted her

980
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: to come be filmed on his new invention, the kinetoscope.

981
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: They did their old trick where Frank threw glass balls

982
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: in air and she blasted him out of this guy.

983
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure. Edison is like, hey, Annie Okley,

984
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: the return of our Thomas Edison from the Nicola Tesla episode.

985
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: Hey Annie Oakley, I want you to come over here.

986
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: I want to I want to use this new invention

987
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: I stole, I mean invented to make a moving picture

988
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: out of you. Shall I probably won't pay you for

989
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a fifty billion dollars to come do it.

990
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: She does it. She's like a my money is like, oh,

991
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: I was kidding, yes, kidding, ha ha ha. That's that's

992
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: what he did to Tesla. Go back and listen to

993
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: that episode right, Edison sucks, Nicola, Tesla and a pigeon.

994
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: It's a great episode. Um. I also wanted to say,

995
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean this is that, you know, childless adults can

996
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: be super supportive of children, you know. I like to

997
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: think that's kind of how we are too, because, uh,

998
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to. I'm not great with kids.

999
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't particularly love hanging out with kids, and I

1000
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: like kids. I want kids to succeed. I'm not out

1001
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: here like ring cratch goblins like that. I hate that's

1002
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: the worst. Y'all. If you don't have kids, if you

1003
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: don't even like kids, that's fine, but like, don't don't

1004
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: vilify children, you know. And I really love that. They

1005
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: were like, we don't have kids, but we were kids,

1006
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: and we know how hard that is, so we want

1007
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: to try and make that better. That's really awesome of them. Yeah,

1008
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. And it sucks to to be like,

1009
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: I know people are out here judge and me for

1010
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: not having kids, so I'm going to turn it around

1011
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: and be really judgmental about you having them, Like it's

1012
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: not really helpful to do the same thing. Back, does

1013
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: do you know what E mean? I have wonder just

1014
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: comparing it to us again, if they didn't have children,

1015
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: because they were like, yeah, we kind of have this

1016
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: like lifestyle, we're on the road, there's a lot of

1017
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: guns in the house. That's not us. But you know,

1018
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: but but maybe you know, maybe they were just like,

1019
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: it's you. We'd have to give everything up and we

1020
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be great parents. Uh so maybe we just

1021
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: helped kids instead of having them. Yeah, maybe so. And

1022
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if Annie was a little bit like me,

1023
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: where she's like, no, I just maybe kids are great,

1024
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: but pregnancy and labor, I'm not very interested in that.

1025
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: Don't email us with your don't email us. I've heard

1026
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: them all. I don't need to hear about your blessings.

1027
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: We love your children. Children are fantastic, very excited to

1028
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: meet them. I would love to coup over your child

1029
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: and make a friend of your eight year old, but

1030
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: I do not want one. So back to the story here.

1031
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: In October of nineteen o one, the Buffalo Bill shows

1032
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: private train which carded them all from state to state.

1033
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: They were traveling through Virginia when everyone was suddenly jostled

1034
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: awake by a head on collision with another train. Oh, no, horrifying, horrifying,

1035
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: and incredibly no people were killed. That's really amazing for

1036
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: a head on train collision in eighteen in nine one um,

1037
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: but sadly a hundred of the show's horses died pretty immediately.

1038
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: An article called the Biography of sharpshooter Annie Oakley on

1039
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: thought code dot Com says that Annie's hair turned white

1040
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: after this incident, and they decided at this point it

1041
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: was time to leave the Wild West Show for good.

1042
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: You know, we've been doing this for sixteen years. I

1043
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: think we've had enough. But yeah, I think it head

1044
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: on collision is a good way to go out on. Yes.

1045
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: They settled down in New Jersey and they started to

1046
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: pursue other ventures. Frank became a sales rep for the

1047
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: Union Metallic Cartridge Company and sold ammunition. Which can't imagine

1048
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: a better spokesperson than Frank Butler. Like, some guy named

1049
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: Frank Butler out here, want to sell ammunition? Get him? Now,

1050
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: get him? How much does he want? Frank, what's your

1051
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: experience with bullets? So Frank's doing that. And meanwhile, Annie

1052
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: starred in a play called The Western Girl, and people

1053
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it, although it never did go to Broadway,

1054
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: but it was it was a local hit, that's all right,

1055
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: some regional theater. Things were looking nice and quiet and

1056
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: chill for old Annie and Frank. But then in none

1057
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: other than Mr William Randolph, so many villains, he published

1058
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: an article in the Chicago Examiner that Annie Oakley had

1059
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: been arrested for stealing in order to support her cocaine habits.

1060
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: What what this don't sound like Annie Oakley to me? Now,

1061
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: this is outrageous to anyone who knows her, including you

1062
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: and me learning about her for the last few minutes,

1063
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: and even most people who didn't know her were like, m,

1064
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: that don't sound right. Annie Oakley was famously modest and

1065
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: sweet and rich, so it's like, why would she need

1066
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: to steal to support a drug habit? But there's no

1067
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: evidence she has. But you know how fake news do.

1068
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: Within days, had spread to newspapers across the country. It

1069
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: was like a huge story, So how did this happen?

1070
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: Where was the journalistic integrity? Turned out, someone was arrested

1071
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: for stealing to support a cocaine habit. That's all true,

1072
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: But it was a burlesque performer in a Wild West

1073
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: themed show who went by the stage name, any Oakley,

1074
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: any Oakley. Now you could have had a quick letter

1075
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: telegram off somewhere to verify your sources, Mr William Mandolph hers,

1076
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: But no, it was it was too sensational and they

1077
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: had to write, I just need to sell papers. I'm

1078
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: here to sell paper. I mean, that's that's It's a

1079
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: good stage name. Though. For a while I just thought

1080
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: that they were doing the same thing back then, with

1081
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 1: like renaming celebrities as your burlesque. Yeah, totally. Now you'd

1082
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: have like, what is my my my drag name is

1083
01:04:54,120 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: always Tilda Swim fan Tilda Swim, Please get that drag together?

1084
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: Any Oakley. I mean it's not the most creative name

1085
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: in the world, but they were doing it, you know, anyway,

1086
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: any Oakley an Oakley. So Annie Oakley starts kicking down

1087
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: doors and every single newspaper that printed this story, and

1088
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: she's she's like, yeah, I demand a retraction. And you

1089
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: guys know how my aim isn't it two out right?

1090
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't miss you haven't heard there's a

1091
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: few holes in that story. If you don't retract, there's

1092
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a few holes in your chests. Wow. So

1093
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: some of them did retract the story. But Annie had

1094
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: to spend the next six years in legal battles against

1095
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: William Randolph Hurst and other newspaper giants for their very

1096
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: obvious and egregious libel case. Here I thought co says

1097
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: that she won about eight hundred thousand dollars in her

1098
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: lawsuits against fifty five newspapers, but even it was less

1099
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: than what she'd paid in legal expenses. To her, it

1100
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: didn't matter. She was just glad that she cleared her name,

1101
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, and that she was happy enough that it

1102
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: was over and that she'd won. So meanwhile, Frank Butler

1103
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: still a master of words, and at some point he

1104
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: wrote a gem of a poem that deserves to be shared.

1105
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: So let's go back to poetry corner, and here Frank

1106
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: Butler's poem titled Hunting in Florida? Did you ever hunt

1107
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: in Florida? Did you ever get up at half past four?

1108
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: Did you ever try to smile while you drove ten

1109
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: mile and the rain came down in a poor Did

1110
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: your knees ever shake when you heard about a snake?

1111
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear the rattlers warning call? If you did,

1112
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: with me, you surely will agree The North ain't such

1113
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: a bad place after all. Just this disk track on

1114
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: Florida was like, let me roast Florida. I mean, he

1115
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: won't be the first or the last to write a

1116
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: disk track about Florida. In nineteen eleven, when Annie was

1117
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: fifty one years old, she re entered show biz to

1118
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: join the Young Buffalo Bill Wild West Show. Even then,

1119
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: she could still draw a crowd and shoot the tits

1120
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: off a geese, shoot the I'm small, I'm trying. I

1121
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't think of anything small. Only big

1122
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: things are coming to mind. She could shoot the she

1123
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: could shoot the paint off a barn. She could shoot

1124
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: the and even then she could still draw a crowd

1125
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: and shoot the poppy seed off and everything bagel, that's

1126
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: a single poppy. But two years later she retired for good,

1127
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: and she and Frank took summers in Maryland and winters

1128
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, and they spent their time taking road

1129
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: trips and hunting. They continued to be best friends and

1130
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: partners in all things. During World War One, Annie offered

1131
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: to raise a regiment of female sharpshooters where yes, I

1132
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: would love that movie of World War One. Female Sharpshooters like, yes, yes,

1133
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: but the government ignored her offer rude. So instead, she

1134
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: and Frank joined the effort to raise money for the

1135
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: Red Cross by performing at charity events, and Annie gave

1136
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: free shooting lessons to women in her area. Anyway, together,

1137
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: she and Frank raised money for dozens of charities, orphanages,

1138
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: and hospitals, and they devoted their later years almost entirely

1139
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: to each other and to charity, which is like what

1140
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: a great old age like. That's what I kind of

1141
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: went from. You and I were just independently wealthy at

1142
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: this point, from all of our wonderful success, and we're

1143
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,879
Speaker 1: able to just go handle some go fund means randomly

1144
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: on a day. I just feel like drinking coffee, throwing

1145
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: five K instead strangers go fund me accounts, doing cool

1146
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: ship for charity, running around the world. I think it

1147
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: sounds great having houses in two different places, one one

1148
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: change and no offense. But um, can we not do

1149
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Maryland and North Carolina? No? I didn't want that either.

1150
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm I have different locations in mind. We've got summers

1151
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: in New York, winners in l a R right, or

1152
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: like a Paris. I don't think I'm asking much should

1153
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: be a house in Vancouver, a brownstone inly right, you know,

1154
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: somewhere on the beach, a big house in the hills

1155
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: in the hills. Sure, there's some very beautiful places Eastern Europe.

1156
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, Croatia. Can we just go Croatia? Please let

1157
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: me go to Croatia's stunning, absolutely gorgeous. Any anyway, if

1158
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: there's a house somewhere in the world, feel free to

1159
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: offer it to us, and we will not necessarily accept

1160
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: if it's in Maryland. But look, if you get me

1161
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: a free house in Maryland, I've gone an It's very true.

1162
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: We're not in a place to turn you down. So so, yeah,

1163
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: they've got this amazing life. They're giving their loving they're

1164
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: just together and and everything that they're doing, it's it's

1165
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: such a wonderful relationship. There's such equals and they've got

1166
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: such good hearts, both of them, and just clearly their

1167
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: goals are all lined up, and they must really enjoy

1168
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 1: each other's company. And they're together all the time, working together,

1169
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: traveling together, like hanging out with their dogs, and sounds perfect.

1170
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: They impress each other and I think that's so important.

1171
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: I think that works really well between you and me.

1172
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm always impressed by you. I like to think that

1173
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: hopefully I still impress you from time to time. And

1174
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's just that's get someone out there for you.

1175
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: Who who you impress? Who's who's challenged and supported by

1176
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: by you? You know, I think that's that's the best

1177
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing you can hope for. Plus it's hot. Yeah,

1178
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: if you can impress each other, Hello, who's that talented individual?

1179
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: Like when I that's my husband? When I when I've

1180
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: cleaned out the corner cabinet the other day in the kitchen,

1181
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't listen to this, ladies. I was in Miami,

1182
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: haven't drink, eaten food, going to the beach. We hung

1183
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: out in this fancy cabana. We bawled out. I'm spent

1184
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: way too much money. But Eli, meanwhile, it was like,

1185
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: wife's out of town. You know what that means. I'm

1186
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: cleaning the grout in the kitchen and he scrubbed the

1187
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: shower and reorganized things. And I just came home like,

1188
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: who am I? What is this life? Because I'm just saying,

1189
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: when you go to New Orleans, I doubt that I'm

1190
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: going to clean any grouse. I wouldn't expect it lower

1191
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: your expectations, you know. For me, I like, uh cleaning,

1192
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: and it was nice to get you the hell out

1193
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: of here so I can focus on it for a

1194
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: few days. Um, I'm happy to go back to Miami

1195
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: if it's better. You know, I wouldn't say it should

1196
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: be a regular thing, but I'll leave so you can

1197
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: quickly uncluttered this room. All right, Well, let's get the

1198
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: let out here and wrap up the Anniokley story because

1199
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: in nWo Annie and Frank were in a bad car

1200
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: accident and this fractured Annie's hip and ankle and she

1201
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: never really recovered from these injuries. She was able to

1202
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: walk with a cane and a leg brace, but in

1203
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: four a couple of years later, she was diagnosed with

1204
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: pernicious anemia, and she started to grow weaker and weaker,

1205
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: and on November three of ninety six, Annie Oukley passed away,

1206
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: and heartbroken, Frank died only eighteen days later. Oh my god, Yeah,

1207
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: isn't that just there's something so extra sweet and sad,

1208
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: And there's just this beautiful tragedy too, when two people

1209
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: who loved each other a lot die so close together,

1210
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, like the end, like the beautiful end of

1211
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: bicentennial man when that old lady is holding hands with

1212
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: the robot and they both just hour down at the

1213
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: same time. Spoiler alertal, I have not seen it, but

1214
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: I guess I don't need to once and that's the

1215
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: only thing I remember from it. You know, it's probably

1216
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: more than I need to. Interestingly, PBS speculates that she

1217
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: might have died from lead poisoning from all the time

1218
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: that she spent with lead bullets and more more specifically,

1219
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: apparently it was not uncommon for lead shot to get

1220
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: lost in the game meat and then you know, just

1221
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: get eaten his tiny pieces of it, uh, and then

1222
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: in your intestines it would slowly poison you. So years

1223
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: and years of this might have led to her death.

1224
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: UM not confirmed. Funny. I wonder if bulls bullets do

1225
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: they still have lead? I guess not. Are they not

1226
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: like I would have thought they were. I don't know,

1227
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm seeing from Banger Daily news dot com. Many hunters

1228
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: still use lead shot in shotgun shells that they use

1229
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,440
Speaker 1: while hunting upland birds, roughed grouse, and wouldcock or snowshoe

1230
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: hairs and lead bullets are still commonly used by deer, moose,

1231
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: and bear hunters. Um, so I don't know. You can

1232
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: definitely enlighten us on that. Yeah, I guess teach us

1233
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: about lead. Well, my my brother works at a gun range. Um,

1234
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: I feel that he could answer this, but I'm sure

1235
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: he could know. Your brother's a fact fountain, especially for

1236
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: things like guns. So I feel we'll get it all

1237
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: the answers we need. I know, I'll make sure to

1238
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: text him. He'll be like, Okay, here's my my treatise.

1239
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: But also a great excuse for you all to reach

1240
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: out to us. Do. I hope you love this story

1241
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: because these people are are I mean again, it's just

1242
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: one of those famous names that you know, but you

1243
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: don't really know the story behind to Oakley. And now

1244
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: you know more about Frank Butler, who was awesome and

1245
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: ahead of his time, an unproblematic king Rank. How we

1246
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: would talk about him on Twitter today Frank Frank. I

1247
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: wish I could have seen their show. Oh I bet

1248
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: it was a hollering good time and that was That

1249
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: was the other thing with Annie Oakley that both of

1250
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: us I think expected this to be an Old West episode.

1251
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: I know we just really assumed that, Oh Aniokley, that's

1252
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: spurs and boot saloons and I was getting my tombstone

1253
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 1: accents right. But then they were really East Coasters mostly

1254
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: they were in the Wild West Show, but just because

1255
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: of the association with sharp shooting and stuff, they weren't

1256
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: really Western folk. No, it's interesting. Um, you can see

1257
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: that kinetoscope that they made with Edison. We watched that.

1258
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: I think it's on YouTube, right, so check that out.

1259
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 1: You can see Frank being awesome and throwing these balls

1260
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: up in the air, and I think he has back

1261
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: to those connectic like he's like, I am not in this,

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Speaker 1: do not look at me. That's so cool. They're so cool.

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Speaker 1: I love them. Um and yeah, I mean you can

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Speaker 1: see that video and see in quotation marks. Because it

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Speaker 1: is eight hundred skanetoscope. It is well made. It's not

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Speaker 1: it is it is super cool to see them in action. UM,

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Speaker 1: please let us know what your thought. Reach out, tell

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Speaker 1: us your experience sharp shooting, I guess, uh, tell us

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Speaker 1: about lead, um, teach us something, or just say hi.

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Speaker 1: We love hearing from you. Yeah, all right. Email is

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Speaker 1: romance at i heeart media dot com. You can get

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Speaker 1: us on social media, Twitter and Instagram. I'm at ok Grade,

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Speaker 1: It's Eli, I'm at Dynamite Boom and the show is

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Speaker 1: at ridic Romance. I want to follow us along there,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to get back to those memes. Holidays

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Speaker 1: settled down, um, but we'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed this

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Speaker 1: story and we will catch you on the next one.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait so long, friends, It's time to go. Thanks

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