1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Critical look at the future of artificial intelligence. It's a 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: pretty incredible piece. It's entitled behind the Curtain, a white 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: collar blood bath that could be the result of AI. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you know, Jim, people that run AI 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: companies don't want to talk about it. They want to 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: pretend it's not going to happen. Silicon Valley wants to 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: pretend it's not going to happen. Wall Street doesn't really 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: want to talk about it. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: But the fact is, as you report, just like the 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: technological revolution, the IT revolution gutted blue collar workers throughout 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: the nineties and beyond, you're now talking about a blood bath. 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: For white collar workers because of AI. And from what 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: you've seen and what you're reporting on, it is going 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: to be a blood bath for workers. 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: That is certainly the warning of Dario Amede, who is 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: the CEO of Anthropic, and just for your viewers, Anthropic 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: is one of the top creators of this AI, these 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: large language models in the world, so he has better 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 4: visibility than probably all but two or three people in 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: the world into the power of this technology. He'd been 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: telling us in private for a while that this blood 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: bath could be coming, but that lawmakers don't want to 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 4: talk about it. The federal government doesn't want to talk 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: about it. AI companies don't want to spook people. We 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: finally convinced him to go on the record, and this 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: point is like, listen, just play with this technology, not 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: just casually, like once you really dive into it, you 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: realize it could do the work already of researchers, of analysts, 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: of a whole host of entry level white collar jobs. 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: And he put it in the starkest of terms. He said, like, 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: based on their early analysis over a five year period, 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: it could wipe out half of white collar entry level jobs. 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: Unemployment could spike to ten to twenty percent in the 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: next five years. And this is a guy who's building 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: the technology, who's boasting about the power of it. And 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: when we push them on them, if you're building it, 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: like how do you morally kind of think about it 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: in your own mind? And he said, I have an 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: obligation to build the technology. I also have an obligation 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: to get the federal government to get lawmakers, to get 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: other AI companies to figure out how do we prepare 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: the American worker and how do we protect the American worker. 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: And so, as someone who. 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: Runs a company, I run Axios. As a CEO, I 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: spend an ordinate amount of time studying AI and how 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: it's going to play out, just in my space of media, 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: and I can guarantee you in the next five years 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: it's going to radically transform the makeup of our company. Well, 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: every single company in the world is doing this. Every 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: CEO is sitting there saying should I fill this role? 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: Should I open this role? Will a machine do this 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: better than man? In the next couple of years. When 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: you see data out about the difficulty of college grads 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: finding new jobs, this is one of the early telltale. 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: Signs that this could be coming. In his mind, I 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 5: think it's sounding the alarm. 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: It's like, listen, we got to have a national debate 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: that this isn't ten years from now, It could be 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: six months from now, it could be twelve months from now. 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: Then there has to be a debate about, Okay, how 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: do you make sure that workers are prepared to use 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: artificial intelligence to augment their work, not displace their work. 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: That's what we've been doing at Axios. We give everybody 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: access to the technology. We have a deal with open AI. 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: We make sure that every single unit, no matter what 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 4: your job is is already playing with this to figure 67 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: out how are you going to augment your work so 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: you don't get displaced by it? How I told my 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: own staff, you're committing career suicide if you're not spending 70 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: ten percent of your day experimenting with the technology. 71 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 6: And I don't think most people are. 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: I think people are like, whoa, this is too science fiction, 73 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: or you know, it's a really neat search engine. They're 74 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: not actually looking at the capabilities. They don't have the time, 75 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: they have real lives. But I think Dario's point was 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: they might not wake up until it's way too late, 77 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: and if lawmakers are way too late to it, you 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: could have real issues. You could have unemployment, as he 79 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: said ten to twenty percent if he's right, which would 80 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: then lead to obvious political unrest. We have Steve Bannon 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: on the record in there saying he thinks the exact 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: same thing is going to play out. 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 5: Trump's not talking about. 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: It, but he thinks this will be maybe the biggest 85 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: topic of the twenty twenty eighth presidential election. 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 7: Hello, hey, Kutam talk and Ola. 87 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: It's me or rather my AI avatar here to share 88 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: clarinas Q one twenty twenty five highlights. I mean, you 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: have Steve Bannon on the right, you have other people 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: on the left very concerned about this, and Jim underlining, 91 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: You underlined a point. 92 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: That I've actually told my kids, which is, if you're. 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Going into an interview, if you're going into anything where 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: where you are going to be talking, and you want 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: to understand a topic, it's just foolish not to go 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: on to a search engine app, an AI search engine 97 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: app and dig in deep to try to understand a 98 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: company that you're talking to or an issue that you're 99 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: talking about better. 100 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 6: It's it is, Elizabeth, it is the future. 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: The future is now, and a lot of the spaces 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: that we work in ten years from now are going 103 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 2: to look completely different because of AI, and white collar 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: workers across the country, as Jim said, are going to 105 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: be deeply impacted. 106 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: It's slop like total slop. Yes, AI slop. 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 7: It's everywhere. 108 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 6: AI will not replace us. AI will not replace us. 109 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 6: AI will not replace us. 110 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 8: I will not replace us. I'm being replaced. I will 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 8: not replace us. I'm too valuable, I'm too important. AI 112 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 8: will not replace us. 113 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 9: Things. 114 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: I'm getting really heated here with tensions rising quickly between 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: the protesters. 116 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 6: And the police. We are replacing you, no being replaced 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 6: place very well, not res. 118 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: I for journalism, I don't think that the machines are 119 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: going to do the journalism per se. But if you 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: play with it at all, you realize it's going to 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: be a really good copy editor. It's going to be 122 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: a really good marketer. It's going to be really good 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: at doing research. It's going to be really good at 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: doing marketing. It's going to be really good at taking 125 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: any piece and maybe creating eight different variations to send 126 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: it out to all the other platforms. And that's what 127 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: I would encourage people to do, is play with it, 128 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: assuming that the hallucinations in the airs go away, because 129 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: there are times where it is truly magical, truly magical, 130 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: and if that were to happen with a human level efficacy, 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: anybody running a company, I'm telling you, with someone who 132 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: runs a company, they're always going to choose automation because 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: they're going to believe that over time it's going to 134 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 4: make their company more profitable and it's going to create 135 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: more jobs. And that might be true, and that often 136 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: is true with technology that in the long arc, it 137 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: creates more jobs. What's different here is this is a 138 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: technology that could hit hard in the next six to 139 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: eighteen months, and it's going to hit every single role 140 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: potentially simultaneously. And something that fast, with that kind of 141 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: breath could have a much bigger effect than almost any 142 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: of the topics that they're debating on Capitol Hill. And 143 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: when you talk to members of Congress, it's alarming how 144 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: little they know about this topic and how little and 145 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: how infrequently they talk to their constituents about it. You're 146 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: doing a disservice to the country if you're not starting 147 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: to think through what does the world look like in 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: eighteen months to three years. 149 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 5: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 150 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 5: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying 152 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: about the people. The people have had a belly full 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 5: know you've tried to do everything in the world to 155 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 5: stop there, but you're not going to stop it. It's 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 5: going to happen. 157 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 7: And where do people like that go to share the 158 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 7: big line? Mega media? 159 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 5: I wish in my. 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: Soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. 161 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 5: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 162 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 7: If that answer is to save my country, this country 163 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 7: will be saved. 164 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: WO use your host, Stephen Kba. 165 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: It's Wednesday, twenty eight May. Ye're of Warler twenty twenty five. Okay. 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 5: This is the reason we brought in Joe Allen over 167 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 5: four years ago to be our editor for all things 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: artificial intelligence. This is why he wrote the great book 169 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: Dark aon This is why he puts material up every day. 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 5: It's been with us. Is working on another huge project 171 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: for us. Right now. Today's shows packed, Mark Mitchell're gonna 172 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: come in and talk about some polling blowaway polling for 173 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 5: President Trump of what we voted for, Jim Rickards, Kurt Mills, 174 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 5: Jack Bosobic. Folks, I hope you realize this, we said 175 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: President Trump on the first things he's going to do 176 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 5: and put his shoulder to the wheel is to stop 177 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 5: the kinetic part of the Third World War. It is 178 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 5: we are getting sucked in moment by moment into a 179 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 5: kinetic conflict on the original land mass in Ukraine. And 180 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: part of this is driven by wait for it, artificial 181 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: intelligence and advanced technology. We're going to have a terrific 182 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: group to walk through that I've got Joe Allen. So, Joe, 183 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: this is one aspect of artificial intelligence that we have 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 5: to get in front of. And the warm posse, as 185 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 5: you know, is so up to date on this because 186 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 5: we talk about this all the time. We've brought you 187 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: and you've done more than a magnificent job. But when 188 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: they talk because it's the situation of control technology being 189 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: used for military aspects, This technology which could have and 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: may have tremendous upside for man, but it's got such 191 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: unlimited dark side and downside that it has to be reviewed, 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: thought through until you know, this thing spins out of control. 193 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: One on the on the employment that I've been hammering 194 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: on for now for a couple of years. Just in 195 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 5: the last few days Semaphore, Ben Smith's operation Semaphore did 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 5: an amazing interview with Cognizance CEO and the buried lead 197 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 5: which was not in the headline. He said today twenty 198 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 5: and they're one of the biggest of these IT companies. 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: He said, Hey, twenty two percent of all our coding 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 5: today is done by artificial intelligence. He said, within the 201 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 5: next twelve months at least fifty percent and going to 202 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 5: essentially he said, I think he implied seventy five to 203 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: eighty percent of all coding. You will have coding managers, 204 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 5: but the coding will be done for artificial intelligence. Microsoft 205 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 5: the other day, I think laid off what three thousand 206 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 5: people announced the three thousand layoff thirty percent because of 207 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: AI IBM yesterday or two days ago, announced eight thousand 208 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: people out of their human resources department, implied that it 209 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 5: was one hundred percent because of our official intelligence. This 210 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 5: is just not encoding. Entry level and kind of all 211 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 5: the way up to mid level administrative, managerial, and tech 212 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 5: jobs are going to get eviscerated because the model that 213 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 5: Wall Street's looking at right now with all this infusion 214 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: of capital is an efficiency model. It's not about greater 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: productivity and greater creativity that may come later. Right now, 216 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 5: this is they're getting rid of bodies. Okay, to be blunt, 217 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 5: because they want to drive up earnings, they want hire 218 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: operating margins. We have to face this because once it's 219 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 5: here and they said something there that's very important. Peter 220 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: Navara put an amazing piece in the hill. Bratt and 221 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: I are going to break it all down at six 222 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: o'clock tonight, they really got into the theory of the 223 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 5: case we're talking about, of of what is really in 224 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: this bill of tariffs and and and and what the 225 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: supply side tax are going to do. And he makes 226 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 5: a very compelling case on the upside, which I support. However, 227 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 5: in this in this vander Hey piece, which everybody has 228 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: to read, and Grace, we got to put it out. 229 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: You need to read the Axios piece. Today. They're talking 230 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 5: about Hey, because of artificial intelligence and some of what 231 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 5: Trump's doing, you could have ten percent growth, but you 232 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: also may have ten to twenty percent unemployment, particularly of 233 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 5: people under thirty. And the pressure we have on these 234 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 5: people under thirty is great enough. Right now, Joe, you 235 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: were able to splice in a couple other shocking artificial 236 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: intelligence parts into the cold open. Explain, take a crack. 237 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 5: We got a couple of minutes. You're going to be 238 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: here for a couple of segments. In fact, you're going 239 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 5: to hang over for the military aspect too. Talk to 240 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: me about the vander Hay Axious piece, because Axios is 241 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 5: the consensus, kind of the cutting edge ahead of the game, 242 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: consensus of Washington, DC, and of course at Premier this 243 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 5: morning on morning, Joe, Your thoughts, sir. 244 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 9: I think the most shocking thing about that entire interview 245 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 9: is vander Hay openly saying that Axidos is incorporating AI 246 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 9: into all aspects of their business or as many are 247 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 9: as possible, and that they're writers, and that they're editors 248 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 9: and proofreaders and the copywriters content creators will basically be 249 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 9: forced to augment themselves with AI. There are two reasons 250 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 9: this is bothersome. One, this is the main message coming 251 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 9: out of Silicon Valley. This is the main message coming 252 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 9: out of the World Economic Forum. The idea of the 253 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 9: Fourth Industrial Revolution is that you won't be able to 254 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 9: get by without fusing your physical, your digital, and biological 255 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 9: identities basically as a writer, as an editor, as a 256 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 9: graphic artist. If you do not make AI a component 257 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 9: of your personality of your profession, you will get left 258 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 9: behind cyborg guys or die. The second thing, though, that's 259 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 9: really bothersome. He mentioned the hallucinations, but the hallucination problem 260 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 9: in AI has only gotten worse as the systems get 261 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 9: bigger and more sophistic dedicated. Nobody really knows why, but 262 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 9: one of the reasons most likely is that the freedom 263 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 9: that is allowed. The degrees of freedom allowed with AI 264 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 9: basically mean that the AI is free to lie to you, 265 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 9: to make things up. Now, these are the kinds of 266 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 9: criticisms you have to keep in mind about the powers 267 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 9: of AI. But those videos that you just saw, both 268 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 9: the Clarna CEO and also the protesters, that the visuals 269 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 9: were entirely generated by AI. 270 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 6: If we had shown you the cutting edge of AI video. 271 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 9: Generation three years ago, which we did, if you go 272 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 9: back and look, they are clunky, they are warped. 273 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 6: This is a whole new level. 274 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: You hang over one second and take a break. Maybe 275 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 5: we'll come back with that. We have to get ahead 276 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: of this war. Imposse's got to do this or we're 277 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 5: going to have mass unemployment among particularly entry level of 278 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: people under thirty short break back in a moment. 279 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: It's slop, like total slop. Yes, AI slop. 280 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 7: It's everywhere. A. 281 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: I will not replace us. A. 282 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 6: I will not replace us. A. I will not replace us. Hey, 283 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: I will not replace us. I'm being replaced. I will not. 284 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: What I want to do. I see that. That's great, 285 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: that's part of it. But I also want to go 286 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: back and we can load the beginning of that clip 287 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: which is even I think more disturbing with the crowd 288 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: shots and everything like that. So if tell me when 289 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: we denver, tell me when we got that loaded. Three 290 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 5: things are happening today and folks to connect the dots 291 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: are all driven by artificial intelligence. Number One, thee this 292 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 5: Ukraine War did targeting in Ukraine and we're getting sucked 293 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: in this. The Ukrainians had a massive attack drone attack 294 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: into Moscow last night. Alex Jones has got this great 295 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: video of him like going on a rant for five 296 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: minutes saying the Russian attack over the weekend was pretty brutal. 297 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 5: Is in response to a drone attack on trying to 298 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 5: assassinate Putin. He's got some pretty good details, so he's 299 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: very dialed in. When you talk about drones, that's only 300 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: protect They're all the fire control solutions are coming from 301 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 5: artificial intelligence. So we're being sucked in marked this down. 302 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: We are with all of President Trump's efforts, we are 303 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: moment by moment, being sucked into a kinetic part of 304 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: a third World war in Ukraine. Number Two, Elon Muski 305 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: is a very I think unacceptable and unnecessary interview with 306 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 5: CBS this weekend is breaking really critical of President Trump. 307 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 5: But the whole issue is dozed in artificial intelligence. What 308 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: did they actually find? What was it good for? I 309 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: talked to a lot of people in the Administration's happened. 310 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: That's all about artificial intelligence, or a lot of it is. 311 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 5: And then third, you've got this issue now coming up 312 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: as you're starting to have these earning reports, and these 313 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 5: tech companies and some of these big corporations are kind 314 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 5: of bearing bearing down in like the fiftieth paragraph of 315 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: the earnings report. Oh yeah, we're about to let go 316 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: five ten thousand people. And they either say out right 317 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 5: it's about artificial intelligence, or because they don't want to 318 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 5: be they imply it's because of artificial intelligence. So this 319 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: is every day metastasizing. And if you just wanted to 320 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 5: metastasize and hey, we'll see what happens in the devil 321 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 5: catch of the hindmost then find just sit back and 322 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 5: accept it. If you want to say, yo, we can't 323 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 5: let technology be our master, and that's what's happening here, 324 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: Joe Allen, your thoughts, sir. 325 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is going to be very difficult to master. 326 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 9: Let's just assume that these technologies remain as flawed as 327 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 9: they are right now, we know that the people creating them, 328 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 9: and we know you hear it there on Morning Joe 329 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 9: with the Axios editor that corporations across America and across 330 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 9: the world are intent on incorporating AI and the blue 331 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 9: collar level robotics at every level anywhere possible to make 332 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 9: it more efficient. They will replace human beings. This is 333 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 9: being incorporated in education with AI teachers. This is being 334 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 9: incorporated in medicine. You have doctor Oz talking about that 335 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 9: physicians who do not consult AI in the near future 336 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 9: will be considered negligent. 337 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 6: This is being incorporated in the government. 338 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 9: You see it with Doge clearing the way for AI 339 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 9: to be used to employ or to basically replace government 340 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 9: employees or force government employees to use it to become 341 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 9: quote unquote more productive. And then of course in the military, 342 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 9: AI is being heralded as the key to geopolitical power 343 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 9: in the future. But let's imagine they remain this flawed. 344 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 9: Then that means basically, we are intentionally willfully crippling ourselves 345 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 9: with flawed technologies that do have some aspects of superiority 346 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 9: as far as data gathering and analysis, but ultimately our 347 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 9: rife with hallucinations and other sorts of glitches, or let's. 348 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 6: Imagine that they are. 349 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 9: These technologies are refined to the point the Elon Musk 350 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 9: believes they will be, that Sam Altman believes they will be, 351 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 9: the Dario armadae anthropic believes they will be. 352 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 7: Well. 353 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 9: Then that means these hyper effective, hyper efficient machines will 354 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 9: first forcefully augment human workers who are basically cornered and 355 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 9: have to adopt them, and then replace first coders and 356 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 9: then most white collar jobs and then most blue collar 357 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 9: jobs with robotic if it goes the way that it 358 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 9: is total replaced. 359 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: Hangover a second, I want to get to that. So 360 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 5: blue collar are skilled artisans in and even the robotics 361 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: in the factory are not the first wave I just 362 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 5: sent to. Even as we speak, the great Dave Ramaswami 363 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 5: sent me McKenzie, which is the premier consulting firm throughout 364 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: the world, is going to shed ten percent of the 365 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: worldwide staff. And the implication here is that most of 366 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 5: that is driven by artificial intelligence. Ten percent of the 367 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: consultant of the administrative, low level, managerial, and lower level 368 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 5: consulting at mackenzie. And that's just the first cut, right 369 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 5: go back and hit this again, and then I'll play 370 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: the Altman Fetterman clip. Hit it again that this process 371 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 5: of what's going to happen is going to eat through 372 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: and burn through because it's an efficiency model. All these 373 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: guys are putting this out in their earnings report because 374 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: they want to show Wall Street that, hey, we get it. 375 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: The first use of artificial intelligence is not to make 376 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 5: things better and more productive. That's all going to come 377 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: later their first and they'll talk about that, but the 378 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 5: first they're doing is efficiency. Let's get rid of the humans, right, 379 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 5: particularly on the managerial side and administrative side and technological side, 380 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: people that don't have advanced skills, right, so they're not 381 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 5: like top level surgeons. They're more of the people. When 382 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 5: you go into augment, your local general practitioner, he's got 383 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 5: an AI robot that takes the place of five or 384 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 5: six people on staff. On the media side, I know 385 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: this talking about our show is very different and kind 386 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 5: of you know, I think it up with the production staff, 387 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 5: we get our expects on, we see what's what we 388 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 5: think is driving the narrative and what's important. But other staffs, 389 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: if you know, they're all reading off a screen, they 390 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 5: all have. They have writer staffs of writers, staffs of producers, 391 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: staffs of researchers. One person talked to me yesterday they 392 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: have a thirty person staff to put up a couple 393 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 5: hour show. They have done an analysis about artificial intelligence. 394 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: They can actually do their show today without the camera, 395 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 5: producers and those guys. They still keep those but on 396 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: the creative side of a thirty person staff, Joe, they 397 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: would keep three people. They would get rid of twenty 398 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: seven people if they're not going to do that. But 399 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 5: they said, but they're going to take a chunk. They're 400 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: probably going to let a third of the people go 401 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 5: here this year. So walk me through the progression plan 402 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 5: in here and how artificial intelligence is basically going to 403 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: replace the human in white collar jobs. 404 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 9: You know, these predictions have to be taken with a 405 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 9: grain of salt to some extent, because they're all over 406 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 9: the map as far as the exact numbers. Just for instance, 407 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 9: we were talking about this morning, Dario Amiday of Anthropic, 408 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 9: who vander Hay was referencing, told two months ago told 409 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 9: the Council on Foreign Relations that within three to six 410 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 9: months all coding or ninety percent of coding would be 411 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 9: done by AI. 412 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 6: That was two months ago, and he said. 413 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 9: That within a year is possible that all coding will 414 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 9: be done by AI one hundred percent, So that would 415 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 9: be ten months from now. This gives us a good 416 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 9: gauge to how accurate these predictions are, because we'll find 417 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 9: out very very soon how accurately Dario Amadei predicted this 418 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 9: wipeout of jobs. But one thing is clear, whether it 419 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 9: is ninety percent or whether it is one hundred percent, 420 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 9: or whether it's forty percent, this is major. And whether 421 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 9: the models hallucinate thirty percent of the time or ten 422 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 9: percent of the time or fifty percent of the time, 423 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 9: they want to incorporate them anyway. So kind of the 424 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 9: cascade begins, ironically enough, in Silicon Valley with the coders. 425 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 9: It moves outward to scriptwriters, to content creators, to editors, proofreaders, 426 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 9: to graphic artists, to video generation creative jobs that are. 427 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: Being eaten up by AI slop. 428 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 9: Even if it is slop, it's the slot that the 429 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 9: managers and the owners and the board members want. 430 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 6: From there, you have kind of mid level jobs, white 431 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: collar jobs. 432 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 9: You've got paralegals, receptionists, customer service, bank tellers, on and 433 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 9: on and on. You also have medicine, radiologists and people 434 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 9: who have to look at you for details in scans. 435 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 9: But I don't know about the blue collar. Everybody thought 436 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 9: blue collar would be the first. That is definitely not happening. 437 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 9: What we do see for sure are rapid advances in 438 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 9: manufacturing automation, so these are kind of alien like arms 439 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 9: and whatnot that are working on cars or any other 440 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 9: electronics products. But you also have the rapid development now 441 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 9: of humanoid robots. 442 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 6: This is on down the road. 443 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 9: But if they can perfect something like a humanoid, then 444 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 9: you're talking about wiping out most blue collar jobs. The 445 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 9: real important point here is, though Steve, these people want this. 446 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 9: They're telling us that this greater replacement is for our 447 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 9: own good. So we're supposed to sit around on UBI 448 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 9: and entertain ourselves with aislop. I don't think that's an 449 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 9: acceptable future. 450 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: Real quickly, you got a minute before I go to break, 451 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 5: talk to me about the controversy of the humanoid robot. 452 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 5: Inside technology and artificial intelligence, there is a debate right 453 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 5: now of do you make the humanoid robot look human 454 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 5: or is that going to freak out humans too much? 455 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: Particularly in the first wave, should we make it look 456 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: like something else so it's not it doesn't freak people 457 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 5: out that there actually are being replaced by something that 458 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: looks just like them but happens to be a digital machine. 459 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 7: Sir. 460 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: You know, I think they'll go both ways. 461 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 9: If you look at the Amazon fulfillment centers with their 462 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 9: little humanoid robot digit it looks like something kind of ridiculous, 463 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 9: like a cartoon, something out of Star Wars. If you 464 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 9: look at Optimists, it looks like something that will strangle 465 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 9: you in your bed at night as you sleep. But 466 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 9: then you have and this is, you know, kind of 467 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 9: a crass, but you have people who look to these 468 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 9: robots for erotic purposes. And I think that's probably where 469 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 9: you're going to see the kind of companionship bots. That's 470 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 9: where you're going to see people start to accept these 471 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 9: change almost human, silicone faced robots as companions and romantic 472 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 9: partners and so on and so forth. It'll be varied, 473 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 9: but I think that it's going to be. It's happening now. 474 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 9: Some people will accept it, maybe most. 475 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: Hangover a second, we're get more into this, particularly the 476 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: Ukraine part of this war, with these drones and artificial intelligence, 477 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: fire control solutions. Dave bres gonna join me at six. 478 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 5: Peter Navar's got an incredible piece up in the hill, 479 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: walks through the entire kind of business model of President 480 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: Trump's putting out the economic model accounts everything. Markets are 481 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 5: going to be turbulent, folks. Just take that as a 482 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 5: constant over the next couple of years. Understand how to 483 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: hedge against it. Get the free good take your phone 484 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 5: out Bannon nine eight. Go to Birch Gold and get 485 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: the ultimate guide to investing in gold and precious metals 486 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 5: in the age of Trump. 487 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 6: Do it today, chanting again, it's the use of AI. 488 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 6: We will not be replaced by machines. We will not 489 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 6: be silenced. We will not back down. 490 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 5: You must conserve your special human bodily fluids. 491 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 6: No, no, what do you hate about AI? AI? I'm 492 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 6: extremely concerned about my fluids. AI doesn't have any fluids. 493 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 6: AI is not logical. 494 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: I don't believe AI can replicate true human creativity. 495 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 7: It can't pissing the toilet, ye or menstruit or check 496 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 7: encla ejackylate. 497 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 6: It can't do dishes, it can't walk the dog. 498 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: It's just stuck inside a little screen. 499 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 7: It's slot. 500 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 5: By the way, that's all. That's all artificial intelligence right there. 501 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: I've got Ricords on. So Jim, we've been talking about 502 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 5: mackenzie just announced and letting go ten percent of their workforce, 503 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 5: about this really incredible piece by vander Hay and Mike 504 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: Allen over at Axios, And it was on Morning Joe 505 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 5: this morning about this, quite frankly, a white collar job 506 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 5: apocalypse is coming. I've got you on the this morning 507 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 5: for geopolitics and all this and how we're getting sucked in. 508 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: I think more and more to the kinetic war in 509 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 5: Ukraine and around that kind of arc of instability. Prince. 510 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 5: One of the big reasons is artificial intelligence, and particularly 511 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: sophistication of artificial intelligence in drone warfare and fire control solutions. So, 512 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 5: first off, your overall assessment of and Wall Street looks 513 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 5: like it's on an efficiency model. You know, McKenzie once 514 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 5: announced ten percent layoffs Cognizance, saying that fifty percent of 515 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 5: their coders are gone within twelve months. Your thoughts on 516 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: both the employee I'm mad part of this, the coming apocalypse, 517 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 5: and I want to get into Ukraine and and it 518 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: really looks like uncertainty among American policy because Lindsay Graham 519 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 5: and the and the warhawks are banging the drum that hey, 520 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 5: we're going all in. Jim Rickers, thank you for joining 521 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 5: us this morning the war. 522 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 523 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: Thanks. 524 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 7: You're absolutely right about the job replacement aspect of AI. 525 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 7: There's a lot more to it. And I know this 526 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: is not book TV, but my new book Money GPT 527 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 7: is all about AI as applied to capital markets. But 528 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 7: also this is a chapter of nuclear war fighting. Annie 529 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 7: Jacobson had a great book called Nuclear War. She doesn't 530 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 7: really talk about AI, but there's there's never been a 531 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 7: better book about what a nuclear war would look like. 532 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 7: What I do in one of my chapters, I inject 533 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 7: AI into the kill chain and show how that could 534 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 7: make nuclear war more likely. So there's a lot. There's 535 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 7: a lot to it. But the job thing, I just, 536 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 7: you know, just for personal reasons. I've been spending all 537 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 7: time in the hospital lately, and the nurses and the 538 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 7: nurse practitioners they have this little pause it let's tell 539 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 7: a little Michael on the wear and it's all AI. 540 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 7: I mean, they're real, but something says, you know, nurse 541 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 7: in room thirty, please check in, and you do. They 542 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 7: do and they get instructions go to room twenty five 543 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 7: or whatever. That's all I out and I can hear it. 544 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 7: I know it's a robotic voice. There used to be 545 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 7: somebody who did that, you know, somebody who sat there 546 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 7: like a dispatcher and tried to move the nurses around. 547 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 7: So it's everywhere. That's going to continue. Now the question 548 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 7: is where where does it go and what's the significance 549 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 7: of it. You were talking about creatives that you know, 550 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 7: TV writers basically, or people who are creative for shows. 551 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 7: I've taken a number of tests where you get two samples, 552 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 7: ones AI generated, ones written by you know, human and 553 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 7: but both anonymous. Can you spot it? I can spot 554 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 7: the AI and like a sentence or maybe two. But 555 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 7: it's pretty easy. Now. Can AI produce grammatical English? You 556 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 7: know other languages? You know, just say English? Can I 557 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: write a script? Can I write a book? Yes? It can? 558 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 7: But is it any good? And what it cannot do? 559 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 7: There's something this is I had to get to geeky, 560 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 7: but something called the law of conservation of information in 561 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 7: the search world, and what it says is that no 562 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 7: matter how much speed you have, no matter how much 563 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 7: AI you have, it will never find anything new. It 564 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 7: can find it faster. It can find the places you 565 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 7: wouldn't look. It can find connections that humans would take 566 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 7: decades if ever to discover. So I'm not saying it's 567 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 7: not valuable, but it doesn't come up with anything new. 568 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 7: You can, I can, our viewers can. We can come 569 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 7: up with a new idea and you know in the 570 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 7: next thirty seconds. But AI cannot. It can only find stuff. 571 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 7: So now you've got this world where we're going to 572 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 7: substitute AI for humans, but you're losing the creativity. And 573 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 7: then you've got Zuckerberg and others saying, well, what's the 574 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 7: big deal, We'll just give everybody a check. This guarantee 575 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 7: basic income or it goes by a couple of different names, 576 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 7: but yeah, put everyone on a government payroll, lett them 577 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 7: meet to Reado's watch TV, and let a handful of 578 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: people around the world that's what they're getting at. They 579 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 7: won't get there, And I explained why in my book 580 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: that it has to do with the lack of common sense. 581 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 7: But the dangers along the way, like, yeah, this is efficient, 582 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 7: I just get rid of you ten percent of my workforce. 583 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 7: Whatever that's happening. It's going to continue to happen. But 584 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 7: we're counting the we're counting independenties in most savings, and 585 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 7: we're ignoring the dangers, which are the ones I refer to, 586 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 7: which is it doesn't have common sense, it doesn't have empathy. 587 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 7: You actually can't program that. You cannot program common sense, 588 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 7: but take it out of the equation of decision making 589 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 7: and you get disaster. 590 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 5: But sometimes, but sometimes it overwhelms common sense. Let's go 591 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: to your kill chain theory. And by the way, if 592 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 5: you go to Records Warroom dot com the landing page, 593 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: you get as access to strategic intelligence. This is a 594 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 5: c suite read if you want to see what chairman 595 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 5: and CEO's decision makers throughout the world are reading and 596 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 5: incorporating the decision maker. This is what Jim gives you 597 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 5: access to. So you got the war room and you 598 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: got Records Strategic Intelligence, you're loaded for bear. He also 599 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 5: throws in the book money GPT, which I told you, Hey, 600 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 5: it's you read it. You're not going to be sleeping 601 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 5: on the first night after you read it. Part of 602 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 5: it is that nuclear talk to me about the kill chain. 603 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 5: My concern now is in Ukraine, you see an escalation 604 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 5: and it's not troops and trenches right now, they're not 605 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: fighting for strategic hamlets. You've got an air war going 606 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: on that is a sophisticated in air wars you've ever 607 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 5: seen with these drones. And if you believe Alex Jones 608 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: and I do, the response to the Ukrainians is coming 609 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: are the Russians that's kind of escalayed. This is coming 610 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 5: off a very sophisticated attack to try to take down 611 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 5: Putin And this is all driven by artificial intelligence. This 612 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: could not happen unless you had artificial intelligence. Is that 613 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 5: leading us into really a shooting war where we're going 614 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: to be an active participant? 615 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 7: Jim recerts, Yes, there's no doubt that that's from Macron 616 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 7: Starmer immersed in Germany. You know, the EUS such as 617 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 7: they are, Zelenski himself warmongers, and the US Lindsay led 618 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 7: by Lindsay Graham, but with a lot of support of 619 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 7: other people in it, and candidly Mike Wallace, who you 620 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 7: know was kind of out as National Security Advisor, but 621 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 7: some of those people were in the White House. That's 622 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 7: what they wanted all along, and you know this we're 623 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 7: going to have We're gonna have a ceasefire, and then 624 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 7: we're going to send troops in to enforce the ceasefire. Well, 625 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 7: first of all, the seafires of Pra The West has 626 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 7: lied about every engagement with Putin. You can't blame Putin 627 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 7: for not trusting the West. I'm not signing after a ceasfire. 628 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 7: Minsk one was a lie. Angela Merkel said, so, I mean, 629 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 7: that's not just my speculation. After the fact, you say 630 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 7: we never intended to do a bide by that mins 631 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 7: to same thing the CIA and m I six and 632 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 7: Victoria Newland running the coup in twenty fourteen. Then Putin 633 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 7: takes Crimea. It's like then they then they continue to 634 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 7: attack the Russian speaking population eastern Ukraine. Putin launches a 635 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 7: special military operation, same thing in Georgia in two thousand 636 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 7: and eight, said what what part of invasion do you 637 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: not understand? You keep pushing Putin And by the way, 638 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 7: see in the past week, the last couple of days 639 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 7: actually New York Times and the other kind of deep 640 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 7: state outlets where you know, Russia launches the greatest attack, 641 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 7: most strones, most targets, most explosives, etc. On Ukraine, which 642 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 7: is true, by the way, but what they left out 643 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 7: was that that was in retaliation to a large Ukrainian 644 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 7: attack in the days before, deep inside Russia. And just 645 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 7: quick footnote, Mertz, I don't know, you're not that powerful. Actually, 646 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 7: the Chancellor of Germany okayed the use of Western weapons 647 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 7: and German weapons to strike deeper, you know, basically Moscow, 648 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 7: deeper inside Russia. They did try to kill Putin. He 649 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 7: was visiting Kurse, which is part of the Rustern Federation. 650 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 7: That but but hangover a second. But Mertz, we're gonna 651 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 7: have Harna will on here because horn will do the research. 652 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 7: Mertz implied that the Americans it was. It was France, 653 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 7: the United Kingdom and Germany and the United States, the 654 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 7: Big four in NATO, he implied. 655 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 5: I think he lied. I haven't seen anything out of 656 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 5: the White House. I haven't seen advisers saying that we've 657 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 5: had ben kind of search. And Tammy Bruce, our dear 658 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: friend who's over at the State Department, wouldn't confirm or 659 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 5: deny yesterday when confronted by reporters. So this is my 660 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 5: point about sucking the United States in. Do you believe 661 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 5: that we've authorized the use of those weapons to do 662 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 5: deep strikes into Russia, sir, Yes, either. 663 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 7: Explicitly or implicitly. What I mean by that is that 664 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 7: they're talking about it and they're starting to do it. 665 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 7: The US is on board. Let me put it differently. See, 666 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 7: if the US didn't want that to happen, it wouldn't happen. 667 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 7: So if it's happening, and I believe it is, then 668 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 7: the US has green lighted it one way or another. 669 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 7: But whether it's money, weapons, deeper strikes inside Russia, you know, 670 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 7: the use of drones, You're absolutely right about artificial intelligence. 671 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 7: Ukraine doesn't have that kind of artificial intelligence. Ukraine doesn't 672 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 7: have the satellite surveillance, they don't have the computers, they 673 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 7: don't have the targeting ability. That's all this has been revealed. 674 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 7: I mean, it's not a surprise. It's all being supplied 675 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 7: by the United States in West Germany, et cetera. And 676 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 7: it's all designed to put pressure on Putin. But I 677 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 7: don't know what happened to the rest in ability to 678 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 7: understand Russia and Putin. They don't. I mean a couple 679 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 7: of things about Putin. I'll just tell you he does 680 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 7: not bluff. If he says he's doing something, he'll do it. 681 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 7: If he says going to do something, he'll do. He 682 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 7: does not bluff this idea that Putin's bluffing. Let's call 683 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 7: his bluff. Let's say a short, short path to World 684 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 7: War three. Uh number two. They're not going to agree 685 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 7: to a ceasefire. Why should they, They're winning the side 686 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 7: of this winning doesn't do a ceasefire. They keep going, 687 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 7: you want a ceasefire, Okay, surrender or agree to our terms. Yes, 688 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 7: then you'll get your ceasefire, but not because you say so. 689 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 7: And by the way, Ukraine has lied about everything. If 690 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 7: you had a ceasefire, they're not going to But if 691 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 7: they did, Ukraine would use it to build up more weapons. 692 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 7: Try to suck us. Mean, US troops are already there, 693 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 7: and you know, not non uniformed intelligence assets, you know, 694 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 7: paramilitary as et cent That's that's always been true. But yeah, 695 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 7: they want they want US boots on the ground because 696 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 7: the minute you kill one American in uniform in Ukraine, 697 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 7: now there's no there's no backing down. You know, you 698 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 7: gotta know you do have war. War ire I would say, 699 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 7: we're already there. See, we're this is a war between 700 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 7: Russia and the United States. It's what Biden wanted. Is 701 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 7: what Blincoln and Jake Sullivan and Victoria Newland and now 702 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 7: Lindsey Graham is what they want? 703 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 5: They got it. 704 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 7: Okay, nice going, But the question for Trump is. 705 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 5: But hang, but hang, but hang, but hang on, Jim, 706 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 5: you're making my head blow up. President Trump specifically ran 707 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 5: and he's an avgate apiece through strength the last his 708 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 5: as we keep talking about the verticals, his number one 709 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 5: vertical that he led with is is laying down our guns, 710 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 5: our weapons and getting some sort of least ceasefires to 711 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 5: stop the kinetic part of the Third World War in 712 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 5: in uh, in Ukraine and in Israel, Gaza, in this 713 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 5: whole conflict with Persia and in the Red Sea. Isn't 714 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 5: that his number one priorty? How do you what is 715 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 5: it that is drawing us and exorably into this war? 716 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: What? 717 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 7: What is it? 718 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 5: The deep state? 719 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: Is it? 720 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 5: The is it the the arms makers? I mean Joe 721 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 5: Allen coming here and he'll talk about Pallenteer and UH 722 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 5: and all these you know, Palmer Lucky Company, all these 723 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 5: companies using artificial intelligence and advanced technology that are selling 724 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: unlimited weapons. I mean, Palmer's business plan is saying, hey, 725 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 5: I'm creating the gun shop for the world right that 726 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 5: the Pentagon's underwriting, but also everybody's profiting from what is 727 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 5: inexorably drawing. This is like World War One, where nobody 728 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 5: could figure out how we got into this mess until 729 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 5: there were hundreds of thousands of people dead, and then 730 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 5: the vengeance and the acrimony take over and you can't 731 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 5: stop we separate ourselves from that? Are we being sucked 732 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 5: in now by the deep state? 733 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 7: Sir? Yes? And you pointed at World War One as well, taken. 734 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 7: I've read picked up several like six hundred page books 735 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 7: in World War One. I can never finish any of 736 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 7: them because I'm like, I don't get it, Like, yeah, 737 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 7: twenty million people were killed, but why you can never 738 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 7: get to the why? World War two is different yet 739 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 7: it's absolutely be sucked in. And Trump could end the 740 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 7: war tomorrow with a phone call and basically you have 741 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 7: to read Putin's terms. But what's so bad about that? 742 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 7: Because he won the war? You know you should have 743 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 7: you should have thought of that in twenty fourteen when 744 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 7: you provoke the war and after the coup. So yeah, 745 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 7: and by the way, on the arms manufacturer Steve here 746 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 7: here's how you know this, Here's how it works. We 747 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 7: said we spent two hundred billion dollars in Ukraine. Well 748 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 7: we did, but the way we spent it was giving 749 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 7: money to our own arms manufacturers to build new stuff, 750 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 7: and we sent Ukraine the surplus. You know, the high 751 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 7: marnered missiles didn't work, the Russians gym, the GPS Bradley 752 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 7: fighting vehicles left burning on the ground, the APIs tanks 753 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 7: didn't work. They were blown up, you know, by mines. 754 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 7: And you know, jerones Et said, the kind of thing 755 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 7: you're talking about, the F sixt thing, why do you 756 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 7: not hear about F sixteen is three years to get 757 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 7: F sixteen's. You don't hear about them because they get 758 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 7: shot down by the S four hundreds. So that was 759 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 7: all surplus stuff. That was all out of day stuff, 760 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 7: some of it from the eighties and then built. 761 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 5: Jim, Jim, Jim, hangover second, you're going to stick with 762 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 5: us for again, Jim Rickards. Mark Mitchell is going to 763 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 5: join us. Arrestmus to some polling. A lot to go through. 764 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 7: Use your hoops. 765 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 5: Stephen k Bat welcome back. Joe Allen. You have some 766 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 5: thoughts about this artificial intelligence and integration into advanced military systems. 767 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 5: I think we're being inexorably drawn and it's part of 768 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 5: it's the deep state countering President Trump what President Trump 769 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 5: wants to do. And you can see in this polling 770 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 5: in South Carolina with Lindsey Graham, which he's deeply underwater. 771 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 5: A big part of this is Magot that says, no, 772 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 5: we do not want to be sucked into any more, 773 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 5: or the wars between Israel and Persia or Ukraine and Russia. 774 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 5: We don't want to be sucked into this. If we 775 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 5: go in at all, it wants to be we want 776 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 5: to make a conscious decision. But right now we're getting 777 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 5: dragged into this thing. Part of the reason, I think 778 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 5: is what Rickers just said. These are not Ukrainian weapons 779 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 5: and their weapons systems, and they're not Western europe weapon systems. 780 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 5: They're American weapon systems, particularly the artificial intelligence and drone 781 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 5: part of it. Joe Allen. 782 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 9: Steve, I think back to when the invasion first unfolded 783 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 9: and I was in DC with you in the studio 784 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 9: and you said, what is the You asked me, what 785 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 9: does the artificial intelligence angle on this? Surely that is 786 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 9: going to be the most important part of this war. 787 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 9: At the time it was mostly it's pretty much all 788 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 9: conventional weapons javelin, missiles and tanks and so on and 789 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 9: so forth. 790 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 6: That has changed dramatically. 791 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 9: And at the beginning of the year of twenty three, 792 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 9: when they first kind of rolled out chat GBT at 793 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 9: the World Economic Forum, you also had Alex Karp, CEO 794 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 9: of Palenteers speaking there at the World Economic Forum, and 795 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 9: he talked about how Pallenteer had donated their software, their 796 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 9: target acquisition software and other systems to Ukraine and openly 797 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 9: said that Ukraine is a kind of laboratory for new 798 00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 9: military technologies. Since then, Pallenteer's stock shares of skyrocket. Their 799 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 9: influence on the federal government and their involvement in various 800 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 9: federal programs from healthcare to the military to other sorts 801 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 9: of efficiency projects is clear. You also have you know 802 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 9: Pallanteer was co founded by Peter Thiel, and one of 803 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 9: Peter Thiel's proteges, Palmer Lucky, has a company and drill. 804 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 9: They're also partnering with Ukraine for surveillance. They're working on 805 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 9: new models of death drones, and to Lucky's credit, he 806 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 9: insists that humans should always be in the loop, but 807 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 9: they're creating systems that are capable of autonomous decision making, 808 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 9: of killing with no human oversight. This is also you know, 809 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 9: it's not just this kind of right wing tech circle. 810 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 9: You also have the kind of liberal left people like 811 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 9: Eric Schmidt who founded White Stork with the explicit mission 812 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 9: of creating drones for Ukraine. You have AI being employed 813 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 9: in the Israel Palestine conflict. This is going to be 814 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 9: a major issue. And really the military aspect is the 815 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 9: hardest to. 816 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 6: Say, we don't need it. If it works, it works. 817 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 9: Right now Ukraine and Israel is showing us whether or 818 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 9: not it really works, and the really the results are questionable, 819 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 9: but undoubtedly the intent is to infuse AI at every 820 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 9: level possible. 821 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 5: So records. This is like the von Schleefland plan in 822 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 5: World War One, the logistics plan and making sure it 823 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 5: all came together. Once it started, you couldn't stop it. 824 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 5: The Germans had a plan of how everything had to 825 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 5: come to the trains and the people and the weapons 826 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: and the systems, and the system took over from human judgment. 827 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 5: This is why you started World War One. It was 828 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 5: so bloody in the first you know, the guns of August, 829 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 5: It was so bloody and it got out of human 830 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 5: control because they had c stems at the time built 831 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 5: on railroad schedules and efficiency and technology that overwhelmed human 832 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 5: judgment at the time, and the system was the solution. 833 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 5: Is that not exactly what's happening in Ukraine right now? 834 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 5: It is a laboratory. It's a laboratory for these big 835 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 5: weapons maker. And look, Palmer Lucky is as good a 836 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 5: guy as you want to meet. I mean, he's pure maga, 837 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 5: a really good guy. He's the brother in law of 838 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 5: Matt Gates. Ginger's his brother and Palmer Lucky's heart's in 839 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 5: the right place. But is artificial intelligence in the target 840 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 5: acquisition the technology when Ukraine, if you believe Alex Jones, 841 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 5: and I do because he's very well sourced, did a 842 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 5: major tack and almost assassinated potin the other day with 843 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 5: an artificial intelligence driven drone attacks her. 844 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 7: That's exactly right from the bunch Leepan plan was defeated 845 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 7: by rain and French taxi cabs. So there's this random element. 846 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 7: Joe is exactly right about Ukraine being a laboratory for 847 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 7: everything we're discussing. But who's winning the experiment, Who's coming 848 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 7: out on top of the science. So when we started shooting, 849 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 7: the Haimar missiles were hitting their targets and the Russian said, okay, 850 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 7: the GPS guide, how do we jam the GPS? They 851 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 7: figured that out on the fly, meaning in real combat 852 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 7: conditions they defeated that system. Those systems are now worthless 853 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 7: and obsolete, but that was something that was developed in 854 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 7: combat during the war itself. That's going on the Rushted missile, 855 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 7: which struck a target near the Nepro River. It turned 856 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 7: a large target set into dust. It didn't blow it 857 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 7: up or it turned into dust with no explosives. That 858 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 7: was kinetic. That was one hundred percent kinetic at ten 859 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 7: thousand miles per hour and created basically turned the Earth 860 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 7: into the equivalent of a tsunami. So you had an 861 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 7: earth bound earth brown tsunami, sound waves and just everything 862 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 7: literally turned to dust. That's new. 863 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 5: So do we have that, No, we don't. 864 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 7: So yeah, Joe's right about the laboratory aspect of it, 865 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 7: and that's probably true of a lot of wars. But 866 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 7: right now Russia is not only winning on the ground, 867 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 7: they're winning the science contest, the Blue Ribbon because they're 868 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 7: making much greater advances, which is not to deny the 869 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 7: fact that a lot of US technology j which is 870 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 7: you know how they classified, is going into the fight 871 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 7: as well. So a proxy whar it kind of understates 872 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 7: what's really going on. I mean, both sides are fighting 873 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 7: to the last Ukrainian but they are major advances. And 874 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 7: one of the things this revealed is the utter weakness 875 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 7: and holiness of NATO. It's a good thing Putin doesn't 876 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 7: want more than half Ukraine because he could go to 877 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 7: the English channel and I think it's been born out. 878 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 5: Wow, Jim, hangar for a second. You're going to hold 879 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 5: over to the next hour. I want to talk about 880 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 5: the kill chain that's in money GPT Jim. Ricortsure room 881 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 5: dot com. Make sure you go there now the landing page. 882 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: You get access to strategic intelligence. 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