WEBVTT - Listener Question: Life Insurance #032

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How's the Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're answering a listener's question about life insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Joel, so you're gonna share share the big news.

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<v Speaker 1>You finally actually closed on new property, right. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>I just bought my first multi family property. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a duplex. And if you are a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook group, you probably saw me post recently a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of a nerdy board game and some beers, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's how my wife and I celebrated this new purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>The finer things in life, right, nerdy board games and

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<v Speaker 1>good beer. But yeah, so we bought in a duplex

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<v Speaker 1>and we're really excited about it. It's my first foray

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<v Speaker 1>into multi family investing. You know, I have three single

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<v Speaker 1>family homes and now this, and man, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I we've talked about it multiple times on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast already, and uh not to board the heck out

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<v Speaker 1>of people that don't care about real estate investing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super pumped about this, and you know, the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>work out really good. I've got solid tenants in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a solid house. So the great thing too, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people think. And the biggest excuse

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<v Speaker 1>I hear from people who don't want to start investing

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<v Speaker 1>in real estate, And by the way, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to, you don't have to. But the biggest excuse is, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be so much work. And there's ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you can get into real estate investing where it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an overwhelming amount of work from the get go. And

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<v Speaker 1>and the property I just purchased, even though it's a duplex,

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<v Speaker 1>it is one of those things it's not necessarily completely turnkey.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it's not a whole lot of work from

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<v Speaker 1>the get go. And I'm kind of all about buying

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<v Speaker 1>properties that that fit that mold because I still have

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<v Speaker 1>a full time job, in a family and a life. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. You're not gonna have to do much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures I saw of it, I need to get

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<v Speaker 1>down there and see it in person. But the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>you shared, yeah, like a dope. If I got a vacancy, man,

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<v Speaker 1>put your name in the hat off consider you have

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<v Speaker 1>to fill out in that application. I might call your

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<v Speaker 1>previous lanelords, but I have a feeling you're probably good

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<v Speaker 1>to go. It's been a minute, but I remember his

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<v Speaker 1>name Kip all right, I actually remember his last name too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna say so. You're talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>not being a lot of work, so certainly it's in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape. You're not gonna have to do much for

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<v Speaker 1>off the bat, Like, what are your thoughts as far

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<v Speaker 1>as dealing with tenants, because you're going from even though

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<v Speaker 1>you're only adding a single property, it's got twice as

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<v Speaker 1>many tenants, right, twice as many potential folks that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be in touch with and here from,

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<v Speaker 1>collect rent from that sort of thing. Yes, so that

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely been a consideration, and I'm interested to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how much that increases my workflow on investment properties.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's going to increase my workflow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at double the rate, because it is still one building,

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<v Speaker 1>one roof, and and some of those things are in common.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can get down there once and take care

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<v Speaker 1>of multiple problems exactly. So I don't think it's gonna double,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think it will increase it, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested to see how, you know, a duplex

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<v Speaker 1>increases my my workload when it comes to the vestment

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<v Speaker 1>properties or you know, what maybe just it really doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>increase that much, and and and so much of it

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<v Speaker 1>really does come down to the underlying you know, house

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<v Speaker 1>structure of the house, how good or shape it's in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what repairs. You know, the little things are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna break, right, like a toilet's gonna need a new

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<v Speaker 1>flushing mechanism, or your stove's gonna break or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>a fridge is gonna go down. So those things are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna happen. But you know, the underlying structure of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, man, that's so important to how many calls

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get too. So just buying a solid house

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<v Speaker 1>from the get go with good tenants, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>cures your eels. Yeah, yes, foreside brick, which I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jealous of because I'm looking We're starting to save

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<v Speaker 1>up some money for a pain job on our personal

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<v Speaker 1>house and I'm just not really looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm gonna I'm gonna enjoy it because we get

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<v Speaker 1>to choose a new color, which is kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but thinking about wood rot and that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I just wish it was made of brick,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't have to worry about that ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know, I love the way painted wood signing looks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's got that it's got that classic look. It's

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<v Speaker 1>trade offs for sure. Yeah, but the brick is just

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to worry about really, which is really nice

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<v Speaker 1>and right off the bat as well, the property meets

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<v Speaker 1>the one percent rule. We've talked about this before as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome, man, especially in this in this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of market, right, Yeah, so it's tough to find. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was a question actually on our Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 1>One of our listeners wanted to know, Hey, should I

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<v Speaker 1>should I hold off on buying a house because look

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<v Speaker 1>at where things are within the housing market. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy out there and it is a hot market. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely true. It's been almost a year since I

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<v Speaker 1>bought my last house. There are few and far between, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready to buy like five houses a month.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think there are that many good deals.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think there are deals to be found

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<v Speaker 1>in every market, and so I think it is worth

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<v Speaker 1>considering if you are interested looking now, and if a

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<v Speaker 1>house does meet that one percent rule, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>monthly rent revenue meeting one percent of the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>the house if you can meet that rule. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a good move in any market to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a house that meets that rule if it's in good

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<v Speaker 1>condition and you think you're gonna own it for a

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<v Speaker 1>long period of time. So yeah, this duplex for me,

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<v Speaker 1>meets that one percent rule, and I'm stoked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is gonna be a great place for

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<v Speaker 1>me to own for the long haul. Yeah, man, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems it seems awesome. So kind of on the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite end of that, or like in the complete opposite direction,

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<v Speaker 1>getting out we're not spending tons of money on an

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<v Speaker 1>investment property. We were looking at our budget for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the year, and you know, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like looking at numbers, dude. We actually did the math

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<v Speaker 1>on what it takes for us to like feed ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>like our family of five, and it only costs us

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<v Speaker 1>one dollar a meal, dude, per person, one dollar person

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<v Speaker 1>per meal. That's like the holy grail of eating costs

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<v Speaker 1>right there. But here's the thing that also includes diapers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we don't separate out our actual food from like

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<v Speaker 1>our grocery runs, right, so like our like our grocery

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<v Speaker 1>budget includes like stuff from the pharmacy. I have your

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<v Speaker 1>profen diapers, trash bags, things like that, just the standards

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, tooth baste, deodorant, and so in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're eating for actually less than a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>a meal per person. And you might be thinking, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got little girls. I mean, dott is only one years old.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you seen her eat? I've seen her belly. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding. I think Kate and Dottie if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to way like the actual amount of food that

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<v Speaker 1>they have, like in a normal meal, like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal portion. But then Dottie goes and eats an

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<v Speaker 1>insane amount of food for a one year old, and

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it shows dude. That's incredible though, because

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<v Speaker 1>most people that talk about how much you should spend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on on meals for your family, the patented

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<v Speaker 1>thought is is that it should be you know, two

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a meal. If you can get it down to

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<v Speaker 1>two bucks a meal per person, you're you're crushing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So even I even saw something posted where they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about five dollars, like five dollars of dinner or like

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. When sure, if you're going out all

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<v Speaker 1>the time and you're eating out and you're used to

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<v Speaker 1>doing drinks and dropping fifty bucks a night on a weekday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna save a lot to it. That five bucks

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<v Speaker 1>makes it sound like you're warm buffet or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's still a lot compared to our entire family

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<v Speaker 1>eating for five dollars per meal. Okay, so next episode,

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<v Speaker 1>can we cover this in detail, because I really do

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into it. I'm really curious and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would help a lot of people out there,

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<v Speaker 1>like the meal thing. I don't. Here's the thing with Kay.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked her about it, and she has more of

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<v Speaker 1>a philosophy on like the way she approaches food and

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<v Speaker 1>the way she cooks. I need to talk to her

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<v Speaker 1>and see if we can figure out some specific like

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<v Speaker 1>tips like do this, this is how it'll save like

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<v Speaker 1>do this, this is how it will safe. Well okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's your homework for this because because we because

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<v Speaker 1>like we have to. You can't just tell everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience like, hey, I we eat for one dollar

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<v Speaker 1>a meal for our family, and that's breakfast, lunch, and dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>right because dinner is usually is a lot more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>like breakfast. You feel you can get away with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eggs maybe, you know, probably eggs and toast

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<v Speaker 1>and some fruit, a little bit of coffee fruit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get away with it. And lunch easy to write,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier, maybe a veggie and some nuts

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But dinner, man, how do you get away? Well? See, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you say veggie nuts, and I'm like, yeah, that sounds normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for a lot of people they're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I go out to eat for lunch, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going out to eat, right, that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing, all right. But so hopefully if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>next episode really really soon, we'll could be able to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should just have her on to really be

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<v Speaker 1>able to explain it, because she really does handle almost

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<v Speaker 1>of our grocery budget as well as of the cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot there's a lot of insight there,

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<v Speaker 1>so do I mean the reason I brought it up

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<v Speaker 1>was because we're kind of looking at ways to tighten

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<v Speaker 1>the belt a little bit and I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>can cut there, yeah exactly, And so I was just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>could we go leaner, you know, in our grocery budget?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I sat down and actually did the

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<v Speaker 1>math and realized, oh, dear lord, no, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we can go I don't think we can like make

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<v Speaker 1>this any slimmer at all, because I think we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>into like third world Russia or something, you know, surviving

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<v Speaker 1>only on like a goat for the years, living in

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<v Speaker 1>the year Siberian Wilderness or something. Yeah. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know Kate's got a voice for radio because everyone heard

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<v Speaker 1>that just a few episodes ago when we had Our

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<v Speaker 1>wives on, which was really fun. So that was still

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite episode. I think maybe because they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>all the talking, we're just sort of like cracking jokes

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, a little bit easier just ask them questions, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was good. Should we get more into the interview

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<v Speaker 1>sort of style that maybe that would be if if

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<v Speaker 1>we're just prepping whoever were gonna have on and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna answer questions and the whole time we're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like making jokes and drinking beer. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point, you know, that sounds Pretty's pretty nice. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really good at cracking jokes and drinking beers. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on that note, we'll definitely do something. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>some interviews planned coming up with some people, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of excited to get into into that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. So stay tuned. You know, by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, we'll have a few interview episodes with

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<v Speaker 1>people that are experts in certain fields that were not

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as knowledgeable, and so there should be a learning

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<v Speaker 1>process for you and I and then also for our

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<v Speaker 1>audience at the same time, which is which is fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And like Joel said earlier, we're gonna answer a listener's question.

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from all your listeners and whether that means just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of chiming in with a recent beer find that

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<v Speaker 1>you've come across in your city or state, but all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down to specific questions on life insurance like

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about today. I've mentioned this before, but

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<v Speaker 1>having specific questions for us to answer it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like such a tangible way that we're helping folks. Like Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that every episode we talk about hopefully we're

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<v Speaker 1>helping people, but to answer a specific question. You feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the Rubbers actual meeting the road and we're moving

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<v Speaker 1>somebody forward in their life at least financially, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes me feel good. And uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you feel the same way. But just getting

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<v Speaker 1>emails from listeners is man like. It like makes me

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<v Speaker 1>smile ear to ear when we get an email from

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<v Speaker 1>a listener and they've learned something, or they have a

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<v Speaker 1>question or they just want to say hi, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just feels awesome, like, Okay, hey, we're meeting the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we're that we're creating this show for and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creating this community around and so that's just a blastemy.

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<v Speaker 1>Only if you start the email with Matt and Joel

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<v Speaker 1>we love you guys so much. We love the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and we've written reviews. Yeah, or I was like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and Joel hated that last episode that we were

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<v Speaker 1>just deleted immediately. If that's what happens, I actually delete

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<v Speaker 1>those from the inbox before you get to them. So

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<v Speaker 1>oh that's why I'm only happy when I see the emails. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm protecting you, all right. Onto the beer for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh odd thirteen brewing out of Lafayette, Colorado, And can

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<v Speaker 1>I say, Matt, I had this a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>already know I love it, but let's crack it and

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<v Speaker 1>have it together. I have missed drinking I p A s.

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<v Speaker 1>We have had an I PA in a while, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was especially bummed that we weren't drinking in I

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<v Speaker 1>p A a couple of weeks ago. On there's all

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<v Speaker 1>these stupid holidays, but when I saw that it was

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<v Speaker 1>national I p A Day, I was kind of bombed.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have an I p A Meverridge. That's a poor,

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<v Speaker 1>not poor fail right there. Although all those holidays they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting ridiculous. They're out of hand. How many holidays can

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<v Speaker 1>there be? And who gets access to create these holidays?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's just getting utterly ridiculous. So, without doubt, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a hazy New England style I p A. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks awesome and those juicy notes just smack you right

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<v Speaker 1>in the nose as you open the can. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to pour it out for to get that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Right when I cracked the can, I could

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<v Speaker 1>smell it and I started pouring. So we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the visuals here, right, and so the beer almost looks

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<v Speaker 1>like orange juice. It's got that nice solid orangey beer

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<v Speaker 1>color that you see from New England. I p a s.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, also, do you want to mention the can

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the sort of most unique looking beer

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<v Speaker 1>can I think I've ever seen, you know, describe it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So author team makes some really good beers, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually really gotten to go to their brewer before, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's great, and their cans all kind of have like

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<v Speaker 1>superhero themes, and so this one has like it's straight

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<v Speaker 1>up looks like a like a comic book. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like an alien superhero in some sort of intergalactic

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<v Speaker 1>intergalactic space space fight laser laser scene. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna win and dominate human kind or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But ODS teen seriously makes some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best beers I've ever had. I've kind of been obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with them ever since my buddy Carl sent me one

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<v Speaker 1>one beer by them, and actually got this beer from

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<v Speaker 1>Carl doing a beer trade in person, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is the way to go if you're meeting in another city,

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<v Speaker 1>bring beer trade with somebody and make sure to fly

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<v Speaker 1>southwest because you get a check bag for free. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm talking about. Fly Southwest, make those beer

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<v Speaker 1>trades happen for frizzle. But this beer is I just

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<v Speaker 1>had a sip in dude, incredible. Yeah, this is up

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<v Speaker 1>there with trillium. This brothers, this is really really good. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me the best way that these New England styles

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<v Speaker 1>are described or juicy, like these juicy dry hopped I

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<v Speaker 1>p A s. I mean, they have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>hot presents, but at the same time there they just

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of fruit, a lot of fruit notes,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fruit flavors, whereas like the West Coast

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<v Speaker 1>I p A have those resine kind of piney flavors

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<v Speaker 1>and this is all happy fruit in your face. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. I wish I had more of this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Carl for doing that beer trade with me. And

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<v Speaker 1>anybody makes it out to Colorado, there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>your breweries to visit, but put Odd thirteen on your

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<v Speaker 1>list because Odd thirteen makes d delicious beers. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break, but right after that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to Josh's questions about life insurance. So let's get

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<v Speaker 1>in the topic of the day, Matt, and the question

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<v Speaker 1>we are answering today is from a listener named Josh

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<v Speaker 1>about life insurance. Yeah he read in last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>his question is I have a fifteen year term policy

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<v Speaker 1>because my plan is that I will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be self insured by two or so when the policy

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<v Speaker 1>is up. Is that a good move or should I

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<v Speaker 1>try to get a longer term policy? Also, what age

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<v Speaker 1>should I make sure I get a policy before? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a certain age where if I apply for a

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<v Speaker 1>policy it will be significantly more expensive or is it

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<v Speaker 1>all health based? I turned thirty five today, so it

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<v Speaker 1>has me thinking about getting old. Well, Josh, uh a

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<v Speaker 1>late happy birthday to you. I hope it's going well

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<v Speaker 1>for you man. And yeah, you're old, dude. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I would do if I was

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<v Speaker 1>that old. But also too man, you've got a two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar policy. Good for you because that, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that tells me you've got uh that you're making a

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<v Speaker 1>good amount of money, So it didn't come Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it up, and that you're insuring yourself. Well. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the nuts and bolts. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of things to cover in this question,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's a question of is term life

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<v Speaker 1>insurance the best way to go? How long should you

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<v Speaker 1>be insured for? And you know, kind of what what

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose is. That's kind of one of the questions

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<v Speaker 1>that he's asking here too, what's the purpose behind term

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<v Speaker 1>life and how long do I need it for? And

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<v Speaker 1>so and so let's get into each of those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one by one. We'll kind of walk through with

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and hopefully you know, have a good answer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for your question but for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks out there listening that are in their twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>thirties in particular, but even if you're older and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have life insurance, these are good questions to wade

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<v Speaker 1>through to kind of figure out, you know, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>need life insurance and if you do, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>life insurance and how you should go about insuring yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and so we'll kind of walk through the process. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so specifically, Josh asks, is that a good move where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, should I try to get a longer term policy?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's only got a fifteen year because he's

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<v Speaker 1>planning to be self insured. He's planning to be essentially

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<v Speaker 1>financially independent by the time that plan expires, and to

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<v Speaker 1>that we would say, yeah, man, it's a great move.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't know what your expenses are, but

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<v Speaker 1>I assume that two million fits with your lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 1>with your income and your expenses um. But in general,

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<v Speaker 1>having a level term life insurance is the simplest and

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<v Speaker 1>most affordable way to go. It makes the most sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You're able to lock in that premium every single month

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<v Speaker 1>and it's never gonna change. You're gonna pay that for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire length of that policy. And that's a rarity,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it said to know that, like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>payment is never going to change, and I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I were to die, you know, pass away early.

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<v Speaker 1>This is sort of a morbid topic, right, Yeah, it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's worth like mentioned anything. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all gonna die, you know, so, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>that if if that's gonna you know, if that does happen,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is how much you'll get you'll get paid

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<v Speaker 1>out in term life insurance, like you said, is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the best way to go because you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much you're gonna pay over the next fifteen years in

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<v Speaker 1>Josh's case, twenty years in my case. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>however long of a term you take out, you're paying

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<v Speaker 1>the same monthly payment every month and no surprises, you

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<v Speaker 1>lock it in. That's I think it's amazing. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are other types of insurance, right that can just balloon,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're insured can tell you, hey, your premiums just

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<v Speaker 1>are rising for the next year, and they might continue

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<v Speaker 1>to escalate at a ridiculous rate. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to term life insurance, you're locked in at the same

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<v Speaker 1>rate every year. Good to go. So to give you

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<v Speaker 1>listeners a feel for, I guess what the average policy

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<v Speaker 1>out there roughly goes for. If you're if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five year old male or female, you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a round paying thirty five a month, and that comes

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<v Speaker 1>out to about four d and twenty a year for

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty year term policy for half a million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>worth of coverage, which is awesome. Yeah, that's great, that's great. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like think about it, like half a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and you're paying thirty five bucks. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>less than the cost of pretty much any utility that

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<v Speaker 1>you have, you know, that's like a couple of pieces. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a good number to kind of go on, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to find a policy in this price range.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are thirty five years old, male or female,

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<v Speaker 1>you're likely going to pay roughly thirty five dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's for non smokers, and that's for nonsmokers, healthy lifestyle. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if you wait, if you delay to buy that policy,

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<v Speaker 1>you we'll talk about this a little bit more further

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<v Speaker 1>down to you're gonna pay two and a half to

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<v Speaker 1>four times that much. You know, the older you get,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you get to age fifty, you're roughly gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay two and a half to four times as much.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, buying your term coverage earlier on in

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<v Speaker 1>life is a good way to go. It's specifically term life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's other insurance products out there. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>most popular, other one that maybe you've heard of, his

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. We're only are going to talk about term

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<v Speaker 1>life because for n and a half percent of you

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<v Speaker 1>out there, that's the only thing you're gonna want to consider. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not going to spend a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time on why whole life stinks, but really quickly we

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<v Speaker 1>will say term life is so much better than a

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<v Speaker 1>whole life, and it's because term life is really only

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<v Speaker 1>in actuality a life insurance policy, and whole life insurance

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<v Speaker 1>is a combination life insurance policy and investment. And the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that is it separating them is the most

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<v Speaker 1>efficient way to do them, and buying life insurance and

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<v Speaker 1>an investment at the same time it's just a terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And the biggest reason is because the commissions are sky

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<v Speaker 1>high on whole life insurance. Yeah, man, it's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you hear somebody trying to sell you whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because they make a lot of money, a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of money on that, and they don't make hardly any

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<v Speaker 1>money on selling term life policies. And so that's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge reason that those plans are so aggressively pushed. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of goes back to knowing where your investments

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<v Speaker 1>are as well. And when you buy a whole life

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<v Speaker 1>policy like that, and your funds kind of get commingled

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<v Speaker 1>with your insurance and you can't really wrap your hands

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<v Speaker 1>around it. What's what? Who knows? Yeah, that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>position that I want to be in when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to my investments and looking ahead, And like I did

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<v Speaker 1>with recently just budgeting, Like you want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to look at some solid numbers and know like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we do, this is what we have coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we can count on. And when you're

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<v Speaker 1>co mingling your insurance with investments, I don't like it

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<v Speaker 1>just gets it's a harry. Yeah, And you know we're cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>but we also kind of want the best thing possible, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And the great thing is you can be cheap and

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<v Speaker 1>get the best thing possible. So we talked last week

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit about these new fidelity investment funds

0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.439
<v Speaker 1>that are zero commission, zero fees, which is amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then these term life policies that we're talking about are

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<v Speaker 1>almost in the same boat. You know, there's very very

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<v Speaker 1>few commissions, very few fees charged on these things. They're

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 1>both really cheap, but they're also actually the best thing

0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:01.359
<v Speaker 1>for are you at the same time. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>perfect blissful marriage where you if you separate them, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the best of both worlds, and if you

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>try to combine them, you're gonna get screwed. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get in the worst of both words. Exactly. Yeah, So

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 1>avoid that. Yeah, and part of Josh's question too, was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got this fifteen year policy, whereas a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people get a twenty year policy or a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty year policy. But the reason, and Josh seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>have a really good reason to get a fifteen year policy,

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<v Speaker 1>was that he would be self insured fifteen years from now.

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And so that brings us to our next point. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole point of life insurance is to have that insurance

0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.679
<v Speaker 1>until the point that you can be self insured and

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<v Speaker 1>to replace your income in the case of untimely death.

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's not to have an investment vehicle, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not to have this thing that lasts for fourty or

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years. It is this thing to get you from

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<v Speaker 1>an insurable need right now until the point that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an insurable need. So I love that Josh,

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>he's thinking about it in just the right way. Another

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>way to to think about being self insured because that

0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.479
<v Speaker 1>sounds kind of like, well, how do I self insure myself?

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Like do I have to like write something down on paper?

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Like No, it's just not like a formal thing or

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a step that you go through. It's essentially becoming financially independent.

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And so the amount of money that you have your assets.

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.959
<v Speaker 1>If all that combined, you're able to you know, if

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you stopped working or if you disappeared off the earth. Uh,

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're able to maintain the same amount of cash

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 1>flower that you were as if you were still working

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 1>your self insured, you're able to provide that income for

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 1>your family where you did not be there. And that's

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 1>what that means. That's all that means. And yeah, and

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:29.880
<v Speaker 1>ultimately that means that you need to have a net

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>worth that surpasses probably the value of the policy that

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you're in. So in Josh's case, in fifteen years, he

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.400
<v Speaker 1>wants to seek to have a net worth of two

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>million or more because if he doesn't hit that, if

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 1>he thinks that's his insurable need right now, and fifteen

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.360
<v Speaker 1>years from now, it will likely still be his insurable need,

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 1>right Like, that's how much he's gonna need for his

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 1>family if he passes away, He's gonna want to have

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.919
<v Speaker 1>a net worth that's two million dollars or more, you know,

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>by the time that policy expires, so that he doesn't

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 1>have to buy another one. So that's how you can

0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 1>know whether you need life insurance or not. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have enough sitting there in investments in your bank account,

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<v Speaker 1>in your overall net worth, that would be equal to

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<v Speaker 1>or more than the value of the policy that you'd

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 1>be taking out. And if so, you're self insured, you're

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 1>good to go. You don't need to buy life insurances.

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Right Otherwise, just view it as sort of like this

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 1>gap coverage. It covers between now and until you get

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 1>to that point. It's just this in between interim thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think of it as something that you will always have.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about it almost like car insurance, right, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have it around until you know that

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you could pay out of pocket to replace your vehicle yourself.

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:36.159
<v Speaker 1>That's when you would be self insured when it can

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<v Speaker 1>came to car insurance because that car value will continue

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to drop. Maybe initially you're like, right when you first

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>get it, you may not be able to cover replacing

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that vehicle because you know to in fifteen grand. Maybe

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't necessarily have that sitting around, so you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>offer full coverage. As the value of that vehicle continues

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to drop, you are going to get closer and closer

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to being able to be self insured. And that's the

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>point at which you want to consider dropping your collision

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.360
<v Speaker 1>coverage on your currenc. What's the point of having that

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 1>when you've got that amount of money sitting in the

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>bank where you can go out and buy a car

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the very next day. Yeah, because if you're paying an

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>extra six dollars a year, let's say for that collision coverage,

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>but your nine seven day will is worth, you're throwing

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.199
<v Speaker 1>away money, right, So there's some good calculations that you

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>can run to kind of figure out if you can

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>be self insured when it comes to owning your car.

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to go through those right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of a good example. I think you

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>get to a certain point with your car's value or

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense to not have full coverage. And it's

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with life insurance, because you are hoping

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to build your assets over the life of your term

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.199
<v Speaker 1>policy and hopefully by the time it expires, you have

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the hit financial independence or the point where your net

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>worth is worth more than the policy that you took out,

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and then you don't have any need for it anymore. So, Joel,

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>what about you, guys personally? You want to share what

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of life insurance you have? Yes, that sweet whole

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>life policy that you have no way man term life

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.920
<v Speaker 1>all the way. And so yeah, we have a twenty

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>year term policy on both my wife and die and

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that's for two and fifty thou dollars, which in a

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>perfect world is probably a little bit less than it

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>should be. But the reason that I felt comfortable getting

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a smaller term policy than most people should probably get

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>is because of the rental income that we make, right,

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and so that kind of covers a lot of the

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>monthly costs associated with running our family. And that's why

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I felt comfortable having just a quarter of a million

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.679
<v Speaker 1>dollar policy on both my wife and I. I think

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>for most people, you know, making a decent salary, they're

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna want to look at a half million dollar

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>policy minimum. But for us, yeah, we have that that

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>slightly smaller policy that I think still works for our family. Yeah.

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's cool that you both have a policy.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you said? You said you and you

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and Emily both have to fifty yep, And so I

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>think that that's that that's very huge. Yeah, and then

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 1>that's nice, is what I'm saying, because we don't have that.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, well, let's say this. I want to ask

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you about that too, but really quickly for folks that

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>are are married, especially with uh one of the where

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>one of the partners stays at home, I think it's

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>important to kind of discuss how you divvy up life

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>insurance for that. And so some people think that, you know,

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a stay at home partners shouldn't have as much life

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 1>insurance or should have no life insurance. And man, I

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just know that if something were to

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>happen to my wife, right, if the worst thing were

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to happen, right, she's gone, and I'm left left um

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>with kids and trying to support support our family as

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a single dad. You want to be able to buy

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>a new wife, right, which is approximately a quarter of

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars. Uh No, which hopefully I would not

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>be buying a wife, but uh but I would. I

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>would need to run the house, right, and I would

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 1>need to get help. And and Emily doesn't make an

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>income staying at home, but she certainly provides so so

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.479
<v Speaker 1>much for our family that without her we would be sunk,

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and and it would cost so much money to to

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>run our house, um without And you know that that

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>annual survey comes out about what a stay at home

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>mom should actually be paid and it's you know, probably

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>accurate in a lot of ways that to grow and grow, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean going back to what we're talking about at

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the beginning there, I was talking about how little we're

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>able to spend on our grocery budget every month. I

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like that would immediately double if I was in charge.

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Can can give so much time to that or and

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>she's got skills, she just knows how to do it.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And again to talking about kids, childcare is expensive and

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I think for a lot of folks that kind of

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to, if you have a spouse,

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a non working spouse, you may not need a life

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>insurance policy on them because unfortunately, if if that person

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>were to die, it may not change your expenses that much,

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>right if they're not earning an income. However, kids completely

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>change that. If if you have kids at home and

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>essentially they're doing a job for free, uh they're not

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 1>getting paid um you know, monetary wage, and at the

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>same time, they're saving your household a ton of money.

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And so if you have kids, I think that's definitely

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a time to consider getting a life insurance policy on

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>your spouse. For for the spouse that might be staying home. Yeah,

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the pendulum would shift really quickly, right, You're expenses would

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>go up, and you'd have to also have spend more

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for childcare, and most likely I'd be working a lot

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>less as well, and so I would see my income

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>probably drop as well because of the added to responsibilities.

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Not to say that that's not something that you'd want

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to do in that situation. Again, these are sad discussions

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>right right right that we're joking about, But at the

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>same time, that's I think, I think that's the truth

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>of it. All Right, So where do your where does

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>your family line up life insurance policy wise? What do

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys got Yeah, so we've got nothing on Kate.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Thinking about through this is actually going to probably change

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that here shortly. Part of me thinks that, like, Okay,

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna like really buckle down and go crazy

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>if something were to happen to Kate. But I think

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that's probably like the last thing that my girls would need.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I just want to stop talking about this morbid time.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>But that being said, so I've got a you also

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know your reaction, right, you don't know your reaction

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>in the case something like that happens, and obviously you're

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna need to take some time, you will probably lose

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>some income, you're gonna be you know, grieving, and so

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, men, yeah, that's that needs to be some time,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the very least completely. So I think, yeah, that's definitely

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>something you need to look into. So what do you have?

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>What we do have is that so I got a

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty five year policy several years ago, um and it

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>was a twenty five year term policy for a half

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars and we pay right at four hundred

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>bucks annually. And so I got that when I was

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty young. It was after we had purchased a home,

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>we knew we were going to start a family soon.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Is something I kind of wanted to get taken care

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>of before you're in the haze. You're in the fog

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>for a year with a new baby. And so I'm

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure I've got around seventeen years left on that policy,

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>which honestly, I think is like the perfect amount of

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>time for me to be able to self insured. In

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>that period of time, I should be able to be

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>self insured. I should be able to be financially independent,

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>or at the very least, if something were to happen

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, Kate would be pretty set, you know. Again,

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>like you said, with the income generating assets that we

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>have with the real estate that in conjunction with the

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of lump sum that gets paid out there in

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>an untimely death, I think she'd be fine. We can

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>get to this a little bit later on, but I

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>can get another policy if I wanted to, But I

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>think more of a party might be to go ahead

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and get Kates on a policy, because yeah, I'm pretty

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>sure I'm gonna need that help, and Josh didn't. But

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>hopefully he learns from this conversation between you and I

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that he probably needs to consider, you know, if he's

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>married that he and he would be right if he's

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>if he has a life insurance policy and he's not married,

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to business second. As a single person, you

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>don't need to have life insurance, like you're not insuring

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>for anybody else in all likelihood. But so Josh, you're

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>likely married, if you have kids, you also need to

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>consider getting a policy on your wife, because if you

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>know you were to lose your wife, you run into

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>all these issues that Matt and I are discussing. So

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's really important to maybe you need a lesser policy,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe you need a five dollar or a million dollar

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>policy on your wife. But maybe instead of getting another

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>policy for yourself, because it sounds like you're in a

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty good position, consider shopping for a policy for her.

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>That'd be the that'd be the thing I would recommend

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to you right now. Yeah, I like it, And real

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>quick back to you know, the single people. If you

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>are single, living alone, nobody depends on you for income.

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>The income is is ultimately used by you for you.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>There's no one else that's relying on you in any way,

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>form or fashion. You don't need life insurance and so

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know a lot of single people think that,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, how do I need life insurns to cover

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>for my funeral or something like that. I mean, in

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>all likelihood hopefully you know a small amount of savings

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>will will cover that. So I wouldn't recommend getting you know,

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>all out term life insurance policy or you're paying a

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>month for you know, a policy that's way bigger just

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>just for that. Yeah, man, don't worry about it. You

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times people worry too specifically about

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>their debts. No one's gonna get that debt unless someone

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>else's name is on that debt. Right, So, if you

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>have a mortgage, uh, and a partner you know specifically

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>again go back to like a spouse or a partner,

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>but if their name is on that mortgage, then yes,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be responsible for them. But if your name

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>is the only name on that mortgage, if your name

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is the only name on those credit cards or your

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>student loan, if you pass so to those debts, uh,

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and they just get written off essentially is how it works.

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>So don't worry about that. Don't think that you're parents

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>or you know, your siblings or somebody else is gonna

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>get stuck with that debt. That isn't something that actually happens.

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>They'll be fine, they'll be sad you're gone. Yeah they will.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They will, we all will be. And so so no

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>policy needed unless you have people that depend on you

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>for that income. Okay, so we're gonna get to the

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>part two of Josh's question here in a second, but

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>first roll, let's take a break, and now we're moving

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>on to part two of the question, which was also

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>what age should I make sure I get a policy before?

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Is there a certain age where if I apply for

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a policy, it will be significantly more expensive or is

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it all health based and so that Josh, don't worry

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. It's not like car insurance where once you

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>hit twenty five, you know, like the price is gonna

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>drop off all of a sudden. It's not the opposite

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of that when it comes to life insurance, because it's

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like eminently provable that your knucklehead before twenty five and

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna like start reckoning to I mean that's I

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>got into like three REX before the and I haven't

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>gotten into one since. So yeah, yeah, same here man.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>In college, I was I think I was brain damaged.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean they say it because like that like especially

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>is in a cortex, like isn't fully well? Is it

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>male specifically that the like the brains don't fully developed.

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't put it past us. Yeah, I don't know

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>if my brain is fully developed even now. But I

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>look back now there's things I asked myself, like what

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>was I thinking slash doing completely? So yeah, there really

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't a magic age like there is with car insurance

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to get a term life insurance policy, but typically the

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>longer you wait to get a policy, the more it's

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>going to cost you likely an average of eight to

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>pump every year that you wait. You might also have

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to go through a more thorough health exam the older

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you get. So if you are purchasing a term life

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>insurance policy in your twenties or early thirties, it's gonna

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>be cheaper and a little bit easier when it comes

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to the health exam. And if you wait longer, you know,

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be a little more in and the

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>rates are going to go up. What do you mean

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>by intrusive health examgle You know they put the glove

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>on and you know how it goes from there. Um, yeah,

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I will say so. The health factors, you know, fitness

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and dangerous hobbies, those are things that way into the

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>underwriter's algorithm, I guess pretty heavily, so disc off, I'm fine,

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but skydiving not so good, right exactly. But luckily those

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>are things that we have control over, you know, like

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>your general state of health. Awesome, you know you can

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>do something about that same thing with dangerous hobbies. There

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>are things that you can't control quite as much, like

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>your your health, family health history, or even like pre

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>existing conditions. Certainly you don't have control over those things,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's worth mentioning, worth knowing as you're sort of

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>deciding whether to kind of hold off and put off

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>getting a life insurance plan or if you're going to

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get one now. Yeah. And the cool

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>thing when it comes to health insurance exams, Matt, you

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and I, when we both got our policies, it's it's

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>changed a lot. And so you know when Emily and

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I got our policies and nurse came to our actual

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>yas I was gonna say, because uh, nurse came to

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>my house like on a weird because I'm hanging out

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>my living room and she's got all of your nurse gear. Yeah,

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>they like draw your blood. They're like staring you down,

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like poking you in the face stuff like

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>that just makes sure you're healthy. And uh, I didn't

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>get poked in my face, so that was just me okay. Uh.

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>The cool thing is that a couple of companies have

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>developed something called instant term now that they're able to

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>finalize coverage without the need for a medical exam. The

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>cool thing is, you know, they're asking you a bunch

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>of questions to find out your health history, and then

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at a combination of that and your medical records,

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're able to determine, you know, kind of what

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>rate you should be insured at based on those things.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of cool and two of the best companies

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to get quotes at in general, but that actually do

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>this kind of instant term process where you don't actually

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>have to have a nurse come to your home. Our

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>companies like have in Life and Policy Genius, and so

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>we'll have links to those two companies in the show

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>notes on our website. But if you kind of want

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>the the easy ticket to get in term life insurance, man,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>those are two companies I would recommend shopping with. Okay, then,

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so our advice to you would be to get some

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>level term life insurance as soon as you have an

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>insurable need. Once you are financial really obligated, and then

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you have family members who are counting on you to

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>pay that financial oblication, you want to take care of

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>them if you aren't there to work and earn money

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to pay that financial obligation. So say you have a

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>partner and you have a mortgage, that is a time

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're gonna want to consider getting life insurance. Say

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you have kids. They're all dependent on you, whether they're

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>solely dependent on you, if your spouse is not employed,

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>or even still if you're both employed, You're gonna need

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>some extra coverage there when it comes time to kind

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of sort out your finances after you've passed. And so,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>say you're a co host of a craft beer and

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>money podcast and your wife doesn't have life insurance, you

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>should really consider getting some life insurance for her, right

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>because we are bringing in a bank and Uh, I

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>know that if I were not able to podcast anymore,

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that Kate would be really hurting when it came to

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>her grocery budget. It's true, man, it's true. Another thing

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to address really quick, Matt, is you know

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>life insurance through work. A lot of people are offered

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>life insurance through their employer and they think that's the

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>best place to get it, right. It's the easiest place, right.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You just kind of click something every year during open

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>enrollment and you get more life insurance. Well, the thing is,

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>life insurance through work is actually much more costly when

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you factor it out, uh than getting a term life

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>insurance through say a site like policy genius dot com.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>So we would say, shop the open market, don't get

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the life insurance provided to you through work, and most people,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you know your employer is gonna offer you a small

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>amount for free, So take that, right, take the free

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>life insurance. But anything on top of that, you're gonna

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>want to shop on the market. And the one caveat

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to that is if you have real health problems that

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 1>would prevent you from getting a decent rate on the

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>open market, then it might actually make sense for you

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.959
<v Speaker 1>to get an insurance through your employer. If you can't

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>shop the open market and get the good rates, that's right,

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you might just have a dangerous hobby that you just

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>can't kick. In that case, keep that nine of five.

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like, sorry, Joel, you're playing too much Settlers of

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Catan and we're worried about risk injuries. So yeah, mean

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 1>that's right. And that also makes me think of getting

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.280
<v Speaker 1>an additional plan sort of like you said, uh, sometimes

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that's referred to as layering um, and that's definitely something

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 1>that you can do. So say, like in our case,

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>we got a policy several years ago, and if Kate

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and I sat down and decided that the coverage that

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>we have isn't quite enough and that we don't really

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable with what we have anymore, Well, I can't

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>get another another policy and sort of you know, layer

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>that on top to kind of sort of fill that gap,

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of fill that need and get us to where

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>we are comfortable. Doesn't mean you need to totally trash

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the existing policy that you've been paying into, and chances

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>are you're gonna want to keep that around because you've

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>locked in a nice low premium for however many years,

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and so layering is definitely something you want to consider.

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so gooding back to Josh's specific question, right, like,

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that actually might be the perfect solution for him,

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>is to to do the layering and get a small

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>policy that extends for longer than his current policy. So

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>let's say he's not fully self insured in fifteen years, right,

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have that two million dollar net worth like

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we talked about earlier, but he's most of the way there.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>He still feels like he has an insurable need. Well,

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>if at the age of thirty five, which is which

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>is how old he is right now, he decides to

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>take out a twenty five year fioud dollar policy, well

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that that might kind of be that perfect layering that

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>he needs. It doesn't add much monthly expense to pay

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>those premiums, but it gives him kind of that ability

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to not rush quite as hard to make sure that

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>he's financially independent fifteen years. He gives him like a

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>little more leeway. So you know, that's a good good

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>way to do it, is to do kind of some

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>layering like you talked about. I think it's a great

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>solution in the case you feel like you need more

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>after you've taken out kind of an initial policy and

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you feel like it's not enough. Yeah, man, I like that.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, man. Let's get back to this beer Odd

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>thirteen Brewing Intergalactic Juice Hunter, and it's called Juice Hunter

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>because it is a juicy double I p A. It's

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>so good man, Yeah, man. I don't know what to

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>say except for, you know, when I had this beer

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>with Carl at the podcast conference that I went to.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>We had it actually right after we had a beer

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>called Hetty Topper, which if people don't know about that,

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it's one of the best beers in the country. It

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>was like one of the original New England style I

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>p A. S right, yep, And I like this one more,

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>and I still do. This is the freaky conlicious, So,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>having not ever had a heady topper, I'll just go

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>ahead and agree with you. I really like this as well.

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm still not sure about the the kind of the

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>graphic novel comic book artwork. Did you ever get into

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like Marvel and d C? No, the comics. Do you

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>even see like the comic book movies? No? I hate them? Dude,

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>do you really? Yeah? You gotta you gotta watch a

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of them. I hate superhero movies, and plus, like,

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.479
<v Speaker 1>how many Spider Man's can you make? Really? Well, really,

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I want to watch another Spider Man,

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>but evidently Infinity War, which sounds kind of ridiculous. That's

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like they all come together, all the superheroes. Dude, I

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what movies are out anymore. Like, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell you one movie in the theaters. It's ridiculous. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to see a superhero movie while you're

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<v Speaker 1>drinking Intergalactic Juice Hunter, watch Infinity War because evidently it

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. A I'm assuming there's a Star Wars and

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<v Speaker 1>the Harry Potter is done, so that's all I know,

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<v Speaker 1>did shut up? Don't you talk about about Harry Potter.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Harry Potter, but it's just done. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>in theaters anymore, right now. I love Harry Potter. Is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get on board with that. Dude in any

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<v Speaker 1>depressing indie movie that's up for best picture, I'm up

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<v Speaker 1>for that. But now, man, I don't do superhero movies. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, I'm totally cool with them putting that

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<v Speaker 1>on the can, because, dude, you can put anything on

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<v Speaker 1>the can. Can just be a blank can or just

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<v Speaker 1>like a stick figure drawing of like a guy porn

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>hops into a giant brewing that. Yep, I'd be fine

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Literally, anything on the can. If the beer

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<v Speaker 1>taste is good, it doesn't matter, I will drink it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best I p a s I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've had, gosh man like to date, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the juice, the hops, the kick, like that hoppy kick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all there. I miss I p as. Has been

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<v Speaker 1>so long since I've had some good I p a s.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for bringing this down, man, No problem, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so real quick, let's go over just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple points of the need to knows about term life insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on Josh's question, the first thing is only consider

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<v Speaker 1>a level term life insurance policy. Josh, you're already on

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<v Speaker 1>the right track. You mentioned how you've got a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year policy term life. That's what you want. Only consider that.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind that the point of life insurance is

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<v Speaker 1>to have insurance until the point that you can be

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<v Speaker 1>self insured. Once you're financially independent and you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>that insurance to to be able to pay off your

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<v Speaker 1>debts and to support your family, then you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to have that insurance policy anymore. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a fifty year policy because you're planning to

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<v Speaker 1>be self insured within that period of time, I love it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Yeah. And people will try to pitch you

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of different names of life insurance, but

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<v Speaker 1>really the best, the cheapest, the one that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at is term life insurance. It's got the

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<v Speaker 1>least amount of commission, the best bang for your buck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to make sure that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cover any insurable need that you have. So if a

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<v Speaker 1>two million dollar policy is going to cover your family

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<v Speaker 1>in the event of your untimely death, then that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me and Matt, you know, we have lower

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>amounts because of how our investments are structured, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel the need to ensure for quite as much. So

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<v Speaker 1>it really depends on your individual situation. What you're insurable

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<v Speaker 1>need is. And once you assess that, you can decide

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the term length and the amount that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be insured for and as far as the win So

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<v Speaker 1>when should you buy level term life insurance? Well, as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you have an insurable need um meaning if

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<v Speaker 1>you have family or anyone that is dependent on you

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<v Speaker 1>in your income that you bring to the table, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to have some life insurance. Yeah, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you shop just like you shop for

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, right, to get the best price. Well, term

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<v Speaker 1>life insurance. You want to shop with reputable companies, but

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get the best price, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>we would recommend shopping at websites like haven life dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and policy genius dot com. We'll have those linked

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<v Speaker 1>for you in the show notes. And policy Genius in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pitt some of the major companies against each

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>other bidding to offer you the lowest cost term life

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>policy possible. And lastly, Josh in your situation, Man, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're covered really well. But the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to consider it is what Matt kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talked about at the end is layering, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe adding a smaller policy that covers you for

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit longer term just in case you feel

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling a little bit uncomfortable about meeting that fifteen

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>year window to be financially independent where your net worth

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>is actually going to be more than the term policy amount.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, I think any listen I can kind of

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>take comfort from that. Right. Being able to have the

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>option to layer it means that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>get it exactly right. Uh the very first time. You

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.479
<v Speaker 1>can sort of switch it up. You can change things.

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<v Speaker 1>So all that being said, if you have an assurable need,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get life insurance. It doesn't have to

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>be perfect. Having something is better than nothing because you

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>want to have that in place, no doubt. Thanks everyone

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