Speaker 1: And we're back with another episode of separation Anxiety. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Marcus Jordan and Pippin, and I feel like
Speaker 1: we got a lot to discuss today.
Speaker 2: Baby, there's so much disgust today.
Speaker 1: There definitely is. But I think first let's talk about
Speaker 1: your birthday. Happy belated birthday.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Of course, I am like a big birthday person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, which puts the pressure on me.
Speaker 2: I feel like no, but I feel like you literally
Speaker 2: like I did yourself, Like really, I never felt so
Speaker 2: much love and I was so appreciated, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I had a great I had a great I
Speaker 2: literally had like the best birthday ever.
Speaker 1: Thank you, baby. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I had the best birthday ever
Speaker 2: because you really put so much time and energy into
Speaker 2: thinking about all the things that you did for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've never had a situation where like you were facetiming
Speaker 2: like my kids and asking them what they wanted to
Speaker 2: get me for my birthday, and you literally bought a
Speaker 2: bunch of presents into they from my kids, which is
Speaker 2: like it's so cute, Like it's so adorable, and like
Speaker 2: just how much like how you're so thoughtful And I
Speaker 2: feel like you just really like think about every single thing.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously we have Sophia's in town, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was going shopping. You had to film the show,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know, I just was looking for things,
Speaker 1: and obviously I wanted to get something for you from
Speaker 1: her and obviously all of the kids. And so I
Speaker 1: actually facetimed one of your friends, Xana. She didn't she
Speaker 1: was I don't know, if doing our lashes or something.
Speaker 1: I was like pressing her trying to figure out if
Speaker 1: you would like what I got you. But then Sophia
Speaker 1: came in to clutch and helped me make my decision.
Speaker 1: And so I know that you put a lot of
Speaker 1: weight and care into celebrations of birthdays and holidays and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and so I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that your special day was amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, I literally had the best day.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite thing about yesterday?
Speaker 2: All of it? I don't know. Like I love waking
Speaker 2: up and like how you surprised me with like ozillia
Speaker 2: and flowers. Okay, And I feel like I'm in a
Speaker 2: garden right now because I woke up in the apartment
Speaker 2: just smells so good.
Speaker 1: It is kind it smells amazing once you walk in
Speaker 1: here and you.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, but you know what, I feel like, it's
Speaker 2: like the thought because I've been in relationships where it's
Speaker 2: like a lot of gifts and it didn't make me, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, feel the way I felt yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so special.
Speaker 2: So I definitely feel like the thought is like way
Speaker 2: more important than the actual gifts. Not that you gave
Speaker 2: me beautiful gifts. Of course, you literally like outdid yourself
Speaker 2: and like I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I still have one more gift. You haven't gotten it yet.
Speaker 2: Actually, oh my gosh, I can't.
Speaker 1: I've been sitting on it. You get a hints, No,
Speaker 1: I can't give any hints out just because I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a surprise. I think you value surprises. So
Speaker 1: there's one more. It's not over yet. Your birthdays all weekend.
Speaker 1: It's funny, I'm looking over your shoulder right now and
Speaker 1: we see all those balloons and so it's kind of
Speaker 1: like we're still celebrating.
Speaker 2: I know, I want to, like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: very overwhelming, Yeah, but I definitely think that, like it's
Speaker 2: really about the thought that really matters and counts, And
Speaker 2: I feel like you really put so much energy into
Speaker 2: like my dinner, you know, the blue flowers, my.
Speaker 1: Kids to talk about the dinner actually, and.
Speaker 2: You listen because I feel like, you know, when I
Speaker 2: was saying to you, oh my god, I can't find
Speaker 2: slides that I like, and then like you want me
Speaker 2: like all the slides that I like that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that came in black. I don't
Speaker 2: know it came in silver, and.
Speaker 1: Like these nice black metallic thread door slippers or fire.
Speaker 2: Well, I just feel like you're like a good listener,
Speaker 2: and I feel like a lot of partners should be
Speaker 2: good listeners.
Speaker 1: Thank you, baby, I appreciate that. And I feel like you.
Speaker 1: I feel like we go to Carbone all the time,
Speaker 1: and so sometimes you don't necessarily want to eat there
Speaker 1: for dinner. But I feel like you took one for
Speaker 1: the team for me yesterday because it was fire.
Speaker 2: Think it was so good, Thank you.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. We had the best time
Speaker 2: and having just like all my best friends and Sofia
Speaker 2: and yeah, you know it was. It was a great night.
Speaker 1: It's not over yet, though, Oh my gosh, we're celebrating
Speaker 1: all weekend. Okay, all right, So I guess let's jump
Speaker 1: into it. Obviously, the topic of discussion that everybody wants
Speaker 1: to hear is the article that came out last week
Speaker 1: with my dad essentially commenting on our relationship, and.
Speaker 2: So I kind of feel like I want you to
Speaker 2: address this, like because it's like not something I want
Speaker 2: to like address and be taken out of context, and
Speaker 2: like it's hard for me to speak on that situation.
Speaker 2: I know we're going to talk about it, but I
Speaker 2: just feel like, no, you can start, because I feel
Speaker 2: like I have so much to say, but it's it's like, Yaba, David.
Speaker 1: It's not like, well, okay, let's first, let's talk about
Speaker 1: what the situation is. Obviously, my dad was in Paris.
Speaker 1: Jordan Brand had this basketball tournament that they do annually
Speaker 1: called K fifty four, and during that weekend, basically Jordan
Speaker 1: Bran they have this dinner at this restaurant called Mattignon
Speaker 1: in Paris, and it's always a good vibe. Like everybody,
Speaker 1: it's all the Jordan Brand athletes, all of the high
Speaker 1: level executives, and everybody's just kind of having a good
Speaker 1: time celebrating the tournament. And so I can only assume
Speaker 1: because I know my dad loves sin Koro. He drinks
Speaker 1: tequila all the time. That he was a little he
Speaker 1: was feeling himself a little.
Speaker 2: Bit feel good. He's on's feeling good.
Speaker 1: He was feeling good, you know, businesses good. You know,
Speaker 1: he was on a trip to Paris. My sister was
Speaker 1: actually there. We'll talk about that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm assuming, you know, walking out of Mantillon,
Speaker 1: he gets asked the question does he approve or I
Speaker 1: think it was does he approve of our relationship or something?
Speaker 1: And at first he laughed, you know, kind of like
Speaker 1: how I laughed. I like, I think I laughed at
Speaker 1: a lot of the questions that we go through on
Speaker 1: this podcast. But he laughed. And then the reporter, I guess,
Speaker 1: asked him again and he had let out an emphatic no,
Speaker 1: and then shook his head again as he was walking
Speaker 1: into the car. And so, you know, for me, obviously
Speaker 1: we knew ahead of time because he texted and called
Speaker 1: me and wanted to make sure that I didn't take
Speaker 1: anything the wrong way. But then when the article came out,
Speaker 1: he texted me again and said that he never said, Hell, no,
Speaker 1: you know, that's not what the implications were. But I
Speaker 1: do feel like when it, you know, when the headline dropped,
Speaker 1: obviously we knew it was coming, but when the headline
Speaker 1: on TMZ came out, I felt like you were a
Speaker 1: little nervous.
Speaker 2: Well, because I feel like you know, from Jay and
Speaker 2: we've been literally I felt like our parents were like,
Speaker 2: not in a bad situation about us, you know. I think,
Speaker 2: like it's not ideal, like for Larsa to be with
Speaker 2: Marcus or Marcus to be with Larsa. And I think
Speaker 2: in the beginning it was a lot of shock value
Speaker 2: to it. Our families would in the beginning, would have
Speaker 2: rather us not be together, right.
Speaker 1: I think it was something that just happened organically. But
Speaker 1: I do feel like you were nervous just because of
Speaker 1: how often you take stocking your relationships, and so I
Speaker 1: think a part of you thought, maybe was I telling
Speaker 1: you all the full truth?
Speaker 2: And well, I feel like it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: a situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And simultaneously I'm dying laughing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: It was hilarious to me, just it was funny.
Speaker 2: There's nothing funny about it.
Speaker 1: I know my dad, right, and I know you know,
Speaker 1: obviously my whole family. We're all competitive. The Jordan's is
Speaker 1: like part of our DNA is to talk shit, you know,
Speaker 1: and it gets us going and gets as motivated. And
Speaker 1: so when I saw it, immediately, I thought, like, he's playing,
Speaker 1: he's being joking, he's laughing, he's you know, just being playful.
Speaker 1: He's you know, a little lit maybe off the sinkoro
Speaker 1: walking out of manti on And so, you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't put too much weight into it, but I know
Speaker 1: that it made you a little nervous. And so when
Speaker 1: he texted and called and obviously wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: we didn't take things the wrong way, I think it
Speaker 1: helped you feel a little more at ease and you know,
Speaker 1: comfortable in the fact that I'm not lying to you
Speaker 1: about having their approval. And I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about you know what he texted
Speaker 1: me and said verbatim. But I think the at the
Speaker 1: root of what we talked about was, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: an adult. I can make my own decisions. He doesn't
Speaker 1: need to approve who I date or my personal relationships
Speaker 1: because he's going to love me no matter what. And
Speaker 1: so you know, I think that is what the takeaway
Speaker 1: was from the conversation, but of course nobody, nobody sees that, right,
Speaker 1: they all see the him.
Speaker 2: No, I kind of felt like it went everywhere and
Speaker 2: I was kind of like embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't think that obviously he thought
Speaker 1: of the timing. His goal has always been to, you know,
Speaker 1: stay clear of our relationship. I think look at the
Speaker 1: root of it, obviously is my dad's relationship with your
Speaker 1: ex Scottie. And so you know, obviously we never talk
Speaker 1: about that, and I don't think that my dad wanted
Speaker 1: to comment on that. There's always that narrative, that rumor
Speaker 1: that I'm dating you in some sort of way to
Speaker 1: get back at whatever was said. And so I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if my dad comes out and says yes,
Speaker 1: he's fueling that narrative of okay whatever. But I think
Speaker 1: he said no, just in a joking way, knowing you
Speaker 1: know how Jordan's play around. And so I thought it
Speaker 1: was funny from the from the jump. But obviously we
Speaker 1: had to talk about it and kind of work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so, uh, I guess how we found out about it.
Speaker 1: We were in bed, and obviously my dad called and
Speaker 1: texted and then teams he dropped the story. Uh, and
Speaker 1: so you you knew it was going to go viral
Speaker 1: right away?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I kind of felt like, oh, okay, no
Speaker 2: one's going to pick this up because it was like whatever, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it literally went everywhere, and I was kind of like,
Speaker 2: I think people started to think that online they were
Speaker 2: saying that I was lying, that I lied and said,
Speaker 2: you know, our parents are fine, because I was doing
Speaker 2: interviews and I was literally saying, like, both of our
Speaker 2: families are fine. When I would say that, I felt
Speaker 2: like I didn't embellish that. I was like, they're fine.
Speaker 2: They want us to be happy. And I would always
Speaker 2: say that our parents both want us to be happy,
Speaker 2: and if we make each other happy, then it's great.
Speaker 2: But I do understand that it's not awkward for us
Speaker 2: to be together because it's us. But it's probably is
Speaker 2: awkward for my ex and your dad for sure, because
Speaker 2: they have they have their own like relationship or whatever
Speaker 2: it was. I wasn't a part of that. You weren't
Speaker 2: a part of that exactly, So I feel like for
Speaker 2: them it probably is word. It probably is word for
Speaker 2: your dad, you know. And I can't be mad or
Speaker 2: like I understand yeah, and.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously we talked, your sister called
Speaker 1: you at some point. I feel like everybody called both
Speaker 1: of us because it was like it was so far.
Speaker 1: It was like out of left field, you know.
Speaker 2: But and I feel like your dad never talks to
Speaker 2: the press.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm blaming the st chloro because you know,
Speaker 1: I just and that was one of the things that
Speaker 1: I you know, I talked to him about. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it just the timing was terrible. I feel
Speaker 1: like obviously with our podcast us doing interviews, I just obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been on vacation with my dad's side
Speaker 1: of the family, and you know, we've talked about your
Speaker 1: and ives. You're my relationship, and so you know, if
Speaker 1: there was ever any true red flags or calls for pause,
Speaker 1: you know, I would have heard about it by now,
Speaker 1: and I haven't. They haven't. You know, obviously, everybody supports
Speaker 1: in different ways, but I think the main thing is
Speaker 1: as long as I'm happy, you're happy, they're happy, and
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of the root of it all.
Speaker 1: I texted my brother and my sister because I knew
Speaker 1: my sister was with my dad, and so I was
Speaker 1: like man, what the hell, How did how did y'all
Speaker 1: let this happen? And so my sister was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was working. My brother text my dad like, you know,
Speaker 1: why'd you say that? And so my dad kind of
Speaker 1: did say, maybe I should have kept quiet, but you know,
Speaker 1: their adults let them do their own thing, and so
Speaker 1: it was just good to have my dad reach out
Speaker 1: to me obviously show his support probably or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe one day, you know, he'll come in again. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I think for me it was always funny, and for
Speaker 1: you it was a little nerve wrecking effort.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I was like traumatized. I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what are we going to do? And people
Speaker 2: think I lied?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's my thing, is like, you know,
Speaker 1: because one of the things he also said was like,
Speaker 1: you don't need my approval, you know, in your personal life,
Speaker 1: insinuating that that's something that we could say for us.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like if we came out saying that,
Speaker 1: then we look defiant and combative and like forget everybody else,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just going to do our thing. And
Speaker 1: in reality that wasn't the case. Like we obviously had
Speaker 1: talked to both of our parents. We had their approval,
Speaker 1: and so I just think he was making a joke
Speaker 1: and it got blown out of proportion and taken some
Speaker 1: not out of context because obviously he said what he said,
Speaker 1: but I think if you don't know who my dad
Speaker 1: is at his core, then you know it could be
Speaker 1: taken the wrong way. But I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I don't I feel like
Speaker 2: that it might be weird for them, it's not weird
Speaker 2: for us. And I get it, you know, I understand like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they had they have or had their relationship and has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with us. He has a right to
Speaker 2: feel how he feels.
Speaker 1: How do you feel right now?
Speaker 2: I feel good right now. I feel like we talked
Speaker 2: it through. I just want to make sure you're in
Speaker 2: a good place with your family. I don't ever want
Speaker 2: to be the problem. And like you know, like with
Speaker 2: you with your parents, like that's not a vibe for sure.
Speaker 2: I've been in relationships before my parents didn't like the
Speaker 2: person I was with, and my mom used to before
Speaker 2: my axe, my mom used to sabotage every relationship.
Speaker 1: That's so fun. I can't see her doing that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, she's like a sabotage. Really well, anytime I
Speaker 2: brought a guy home, my mom would be like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, he walks funny, or he has big ears,
Speaker 2: and when she would say it, I couldn't get that
Speaker 2: thought out of my Or like there was a guy
Speaker 2: that used to eat really horrible and he used to
Speaker 2: eat with his fingers. Yeah, and she used to say
Speaker 2: he eats like a baboon, and then that was it.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I could never be with him,
Speaker 2: like my mom was right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I just feel like, you know, my parents want
Speaker 2: to see me happy, and I feel like I've never
Speaker 2: been this happy with anyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and so it's good.
Speaker 1: I'm happy too. I feel like my dad is always
Speaker 1: kind of go with the flow, you know, if you're happy,
Speaker 1: I'm happy. Obviously he supports, you know, all of our
Speaker 1: personal relationships. But I think my mom she she's obviously supportive,
Speaker 1: but I feel like she might somewhat be like your
Speaker 1: mom in terms of finding nit things to nitpick and
Speaker 1: maybe have you know, issues or concerns with but she'll
Speaker 1: never like she's not confrontational. She'll have sidebar conversations or
Speaker 1: pull you to the side one on one, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so I don't think that they've
Speaker 1: never really been involved in any of my personal relationships,
Speaker 1: but there's always you know, comments or questions if you know,
Speaker 1: if there need be.
Speaker 2: I kind of like your mama's I love.
Speaker 1: She's such a legend. I love her. We're speaking of it.
Speaker 1: We gotta get her Instagram thing figured out.
Speaker 2: I know it's crazy. So Marcus's mom commented on one
Speaker 2: of our Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she exactly, go ahead, but tell the story.
Speaker 2: Your mom.
Speaker 1: I like when you tell it because I know you like, like,
Speaker 1: we both really enjoyed her comment on it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell it, okay. And so there was a picture
Speaker 1: that we posted on Instagram. I think Larca posted on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and my mom, who is new to Instagram, she's she
Speaker 1: loves it though, and she left the comment she puts
Speaker 1: some hearts on one of our posts, and I think
Speaker 1: Larsa really really loved that, and obviously I did. I'm
Speaker 1: happy to see my mom supporting us. So when she
Speaker 1: gets her Instagram back, she'll be all in our in
Speaker 1: our mentions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, okay, So she would talk about
Speaker 2: some Hollywood splits. Let's do it, okay, So what do
Speaker 2: you think about the Kyle Richards and Mauricio breakup after
Speaker 2: twenty seven years?
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know this is it's all new to me,
Speaker 1: So I think this is more in your wheelhouse. You
Speaker 1: might have to catch me up to date on some
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 2: Well, there's some rumors that she is I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's true or not, but it's a rumor, okay,
Speaker 2: that she's allegedly with another woman. Really, I feel like
Speaker 2: we're seeing that more and more. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: hard to be with someone for twenty seven years.
Speaker 1: So it says they've been separated for a while now,
Speaker 1: but are still living under the same roof. You think
Speaker 1: you could live under this?
Speaker 2: Well I did?
Speaker 1: You did? Huh? It was horrible, right, But talk to
Speaker 1: me about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like your legal team tells you not
Speaker 2: to leave their home. Yeah, they're like, don't leave the
Speaker 2: home because then you abandon them home.
Speaker 1: You kind of said a precedent, Yeah, exactly, So.
Speaker 2: They tell you to stay. But it's kind of dangerous
Speaker 2: to be in the same home. Really, you're not together,
Speaker 2: so you're trying to move forward and you're trying to
Speaker 2: like date other people and go out and do whatever
Speaker 2: you want to do. But at the same time, there's
Speaker 2: like boundaries because you are still married to that person,
Speaker 2: and then in their mind they still view you as
Speaker 2: your spouse. It's definitely dangerous. So I feel like the
Speaker 2: legal system needs to change that up a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never I've never lived with someone, but uh,
Speaker 1: living with someone want to separate while being separated doesn't
Speaker 1: sound too fun?
Speaker 2: No, I feel like it's horrible. Can you imagine like
Speaker 2: you're trying to go out and meet new people and
Speaker 2: at the same time you come home and see the
Speaker 2: person that you don't want to be with anymore? Right,
Speaker 2: And I feel like for minutes different, Like you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about the before. I feel like men can
Speaker 2: be in a relationship that they're not really happy in
Speaker 2: and like cheat and do other stuff and like playhouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that can go both ways.
Speaker 2: No, I feel like women, when they're not happy, they
Speaker 2: want to move on, they want to move forward. They're
Speaker 2: not they don't want to stay in a relationship that
Speaker 2: they're not happy. Guys are more. Guys will stay, they'll
Speaker 2: stay to the end of time.
Speaker 1: But I feel like men make impulsive decisions.
Speaker 2: Right, but they don't want to make up their home.
Speaker 1: Are strategic and you know, if a woman's gonna leave,
Speaker 1: she's already got her next plan figured out and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Where guys I feel like, just move off
Speaker 1: of impulse a little bit totally. But it says that
Speaker 1: they remain amicable as they figure out what's next for them.
Speaker 1: So obviously wishing them the best.
Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than like going through a divorce publicly,
Speaker 2: because I feel like nobody wins. They both people are
Speaker 2: going to take like an l right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, it says a psychic medium told Kyle years ago
Speaker 1: that she would never be fulfilled in her marriage. And
Speaker 1: how do you feel about like mediums?
Speaker 2: Obviously, I feel like they say that about anyone. Look
Speaker 2: at this to two. I can say that about everybody
Speaker 2: that I meet, Like one out of two people or
Speaker 2: they're going to get divorced.
Speaker 1: You saw a medium though, remember we were on one
Speaker 1: of your friend's boat. Yes, And I can't remember the
Speaker 1: advice she gave you. She gave you something.
Speaker 2: She said I was going to buy and sell real estate.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I asked, I asked. I tried to ask
Speaker 2: her about our personal relationship, and she really didn't say anything.
Speaker 2: She was like, no, you guys are good, but the
Speaker 2: only thing I see is you were going to buy
Speaker 2: and sell real estate. And I'm like, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I thought she said something about there being strong men
Speaker 1: in your life and then you equated it to your children,
Speaker 1: like your boys.
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about years and years.
Speaker 1: Ago, right or something like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I was when I was on Housewives
Speaker 2: twelve years ago.
Speaker 1: It was it was.
Speaker 2: Marisol's mom. Oh really yeah, And they basically said that
Speaker 2: I'm worried about a man, and I said, why have
Speaker 2: three boys? I could be worried about my boys? And
Speaker 2: then so we got into this argument. But I mean, statistically,
Speaker 2: like one out of two people break up. You know,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's hard. Anybody can say that I'm
Speaker 2: not psychic and I can tell you that.
Speaker 1: Well. It looks like Kyle and Mauricio also respond On Instagram.
Speaker 1: They made a post that says, in regards to the
Speaker 1: news that came out today about us, any claims regarding
Speaker 1: us divorcing are untrue. So it sounds like maybe they're
Speaker 1: not getting a divorce.
Speaker 2: Once you have like murky water, it's contaminated. Oh really,
Speaker 2: it is contaminated. You're not going to be able to
Speaker 2: stay in that relationship, trust me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It says they've had a rough year, they both
Speaker 1: love and respect each other tremendously. There's no wrongdoing on
Speaker 1: anyone's part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, there's always wrongdoing them both. So it takes
Speaker 2: two to tango, but there's always like, you know, if
Speaker 2: the water's murky, it's it's probably contaminated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it says although they're in the public eye,
Speaker 1: that be working through their issues properly. So obviously we
Speaker 1: wish something the best, but totally it sounds like murky water,
Speaker 1: and your advice is to stay out of market water. Right.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a murky water. No, but
Speaker 2: I do feel like, you know, they're saying they're not
Speaker 2: going to get divorced, but they're going to get divorced.
Speaker 1: So do you think that their issues come from, you know,
Speaker 1: being on reality TV? No?
Speaker 2: I know, you know what I do think. I think
Speaker 2: when you're on reality TV, it just brings light to
Speaker 2: all your issues. You can't really like sweep things under
Speaker 2: the rug. And I think a lot of relationships, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are together don't really deal
Speaker 2: with their issues, sure, and they sweep things under the
Speaker 2: rug and they think like they're never gonna have to
Speaker 2: deal with it, but the same issues keep arising and
Speaker 2: then at some point, like you have to address them,
Speaker 2: but it takes longer. And I think when you're on
Speaker 2: reality TV, so many people see your issues. I feel
Speaker 2: so when I was single a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: when I was shooting Housewives, they kept saying, like, you know,
Speaker 2: what's going on with your personal life? What's going on
Speaker 2: with your personal life? And I felt like I wasn't
Speaker 2: with anyone that I wanted to put on the show
Speaker 2: with me, And like show because it is a situation
Speaker 2: where like if you don't feel solid for sure, well,
Speaker 2: if you don't feel solid, I think it's like a
Speaker 2: situation where you know people will see it, you'll see it,
Speaker 2: and then you'll just feel stupid, you know. So don't
Speaker 2: put anyone on a show that you're not one hundred
Speaker 2: percent solid with. I feel that that's at Murky Water conversation.
Speaker 1: Are we worried that reality TV might damage our relationship?
Speaker 2: No, I feel like we're on this journey and let
Speaker 2: it be what it's going to be. I feel like
Speaker 2: we're riding this wave.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, I feel like one the show
Speaker 1: you're on is Housewives. It's not necessarily there's not much
Speaker 1: required of me, I feel like in terms of being
Speaker 1: on the show. So I feel like it's great for you.
Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's fun. I think it's
Speaker 2: fun to be around other women. I think it's fun
Speaker 2: to be able to show the women that you can
Speaker 2: make a comeback after a breakup or a business loss
Speaker 2: or whatever it is. I think it's like powerful to
Speaker 2: have other women look up to you and see that
Speaker 2: you've made it when so many people are in situations
Speaker 2: where they feel like they don't have an out or like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to be able to meet
Speaker 2: a man, or I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 2: start a business after thirty, or like things like that that.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, you know, it stops
Speaker 2: their motivation, right, And I think it gives people motivation
Speaker 2: to have fun and live your boss life and you know,
Speaker 2: do you want to do Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I feel that While we're talking about your show
Speaker 1: and the Housewives, our next topic is apparently about Lisa
Speaker 1: in her situation. You were gracious enough to let me
Speaker 1: handle talking to my dad's scenario, and obviously, with Lisa
Speaker 1: being your best friend, I'm gonna let you steer the
Speaker 1: boat on this one.
Speaker 2: I think they're getting close to what just settling their divorce.
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I try to give her
Speaker 2: the best advice I could based on my personal experience,
Speaker 2: and I feel like it's really hard to fight a prenup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're great advice too, by the way.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I feel like it's like hard to fight
Speaker 2: a prenup. There there's a reason why a prenup exists.
Speaker 2: It's to protect both parties. Yeah, you know, it's better
Speaker 2: to like figure things out amicably and like move forward
Speaker 2: and keep it cool on both sides.
Speaker 1: Is your outlook on it? Basically, if you sign the prenum,
Speaker 1: you agree to what you agreed to. Don't ask me
Speaker 1: to amend anything.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we can amend some things. No, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying.
Speaker 1: That I wanted to get you on record with that, like.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, you're trying to figure out us.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying that I just wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you the question.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that there's like happy medium. There's
Speaker 2: like a happy like place for both people where they.
Speaker 1: Feel contracts, contracts, you know, well.
Speaker 2: This is not the NBA, by the wayness is not
Speaker 2: the NBA contracts.
Speaker 1: If you sign, you sign right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like, I feel like circumstances change. I think
Speaker 2: when you've been with life happens when you put a
Speaker 2: lot of energy and love into your family and you've
Speaker 2: helped your spouse be the best version of themselves and
Speaker 2: you know, put a lot of love into them and
Speaker 2: made them be better.
Speaker 1: How I do you Yeah, okay, I feel that my
Speaker 1: dad has always said, at least when he was dealing
Speaker 1: with his NBA contracts, that like, once the contract is
Speaker 1: negotiated and signed, even with like Jordan Brand, like, it's signed,
Speaker 1: once you sign on the data line, it's signed. So
Speaker 1: don't ask for more money, don't come back for you know,
Speaker 1: an extension.
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a that's a very business way.
Speaker 2: But I think when you're sleeping with someone and you've
Speaker 2: made children with them, another whole other human I think
Speaker 2: there's like a bit different, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: It's not the same rules as like a person that
Speaker 2: you were dealing with business wise, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that. I feel that, but I.
Speaker 2: Definitely feel like it's better to work things out without,
Speaker 2: you know, going to try and stuff. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of scary for both people when you go to trial
Speaker 2: because you have one judge that determines your future. You
Speaker 2: can go in and this judge can have a bad
Speaker 2: day or whatever it is, and not like you period.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of happy that, like Lisa and Lennie
Speaker 2: are kind of, you know, put this behind them, and
Speaker 2: I think they're going to get along better once they're divorced.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It says that page six reached out to Lenny
Speaker 1: for comment, and he says, quote, if I did have
Speaker 1: a comment, you would be the last to know, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that he actually told us first that he
Speaker 1: was divorcing Lisa. How do you feel about that? He's
Speaker 1: a character that's kind of funny though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's funny.
Speaker 1: How is Lisa doing.
Speaker 2: She's good. I feel like she's happy. I'm glad she's
Speaker 2: moving forward.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I tried to give her the best advice possible, like
Speaker 2: make peace with him, you have kids with him, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to. I gave her all the advice that
Speaker 2: my dad and mom gave me when I was going
Speaker 2: through my situation. They were like, LARSA, just don't don't
Speaker 2: listen to your lawyers because I feel like a lot
Speaker 2: of times lawyers just want to fight and battle this
Speaker 2: whole situation. Yeah, And when I got divorced, I had
Speaker 2: to sign like a malpractice thing basically saying that I
Speaker 2: wasn't going to come back and sue my lawyers because
Speaker 2: I didn't take what was like what was supposed to
Speaker 2: be mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're saying you kind of conceded on some
Speaker 1: things just because you want to feel like.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like I wanted to be in
Speaker 2: a good place with him m hm, with my kids.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to have it go on as long
Speaker 2: as it went on. Yeah, And so for us, I
Speaker 2: felt like, you know, I didn't want him to feel
Speaker 2: like I was taking advantage of the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it worked out for everyone. Everyone was happy. When
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I feel that, you know,
Speaker 2: lawyers like to fight.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they get paid to do, I know,
Speaker 1: And I just.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just not it's not good for
Speaker 2: your energy and like your soul, because I feel like
Speaker 2: at some point, you know, I was talking to Lisa
Speaker 2: about this. I know so many women that have gone
Speaker 2: through a divorce and why you're going through a divorce
Speaker 2: you're like in fight mode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: It puts you in like a negative state of mind.
Speaker 2: So you want to fight with everyone around you because
Speaker 2: you're just in that mode, and it's just good to
Speaker 2: like free yourself with that, you know, get rid of
Speaker 2: all that toxic energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm all about positive energy and good vibes. So
Speaker 1: right now, I feel that how much of the divorce
Speaker 1: drama would play on on the new season on the show.
Speaker 1: Obviously I know the answer to.
Speaker 2: That, but a lot of it? Probably a lot of it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think so because it's it's part
Speaker 2: of our life, and I feel like when the cameras
Speaker 2: are rolling, you really get to see day to day
Speaker 2: of like what we're going through, what we're dealing with
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, should we have a block party?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're invited to our block party.
Speaker 2: I feel like we should call it like the Highland
Speaker 2: Park block party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just block party. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a block party. But then you know, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how we segue into it is you're invited to our
Speaker 1: block party.
Speaker 2: Totally. I love inviting people to our block party. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I like that he just looks so regular, but
Speaker 2: we all know he's not. Is that a compliment or
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it's because you're like understated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that's your vibe.
Speaker 1: I'm very I think you know, the trending term is
Speaker 1: quiet luxury. I'm very quiet luxury. I'm like if you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know vibes, you know exactly. So I kind of love
Speaker 2: that about you, though, it's kind of a turn on.
Speaker 1: Thank you, baby, I appreciate it. Yeah, we can think
Speaker 1: one needed for that.
Speaker 2: My mom, you know, she don't.
Speaker 1: She raised me right exactly, and all of my siblings.
Speaker 2: I feel like you guys are all like that definitely
Speaker 2: like low key.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So whoever left that comment, I guess we're blocking you,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate it. Thank you. Uh. The next one
Speaker 1: says Marcus is about to get taken out of the will.
Speaker 2: If you got to answer that one, yeah, I care
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Obviously, if I was going to be taken out of
Speaker 1: the will, there would have been conversations and discussions about that.
Speaker 1: We haven't had those that's not, you know, legit. So
Speaker 1: we're blocking this person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the point you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not getting taken out of will.
Speaker 2: No, why would you.
Speaker 1: We got a we got a long thing to steward
Speaker 1: ahead of us, my siblings and I totally all right.
Speaker 1: And so that is a wrap. Thank you for listening.
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Speaker 2: You guys, to you soon. Bye,