WEBVTT - Love Is Blind Couples SPLIT, Ex’s Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey On Same Flight, and A Real Housewives Spying Charges Dropped! 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:18.920 I do Part two. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:25.200 It's your celebrity mentors and favorite Golden's Susan Knowles, myself, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.880 Joan Vesso's and Kathy Swarts. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:29.720 Hey, girls, how are you there? 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:30.640 Hey? 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.839 What's happening from Lisbon? You're up? You know. I'm in Lisbon, Portugal. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.920 I haven't found much success in the United States dating, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.320 so I came over to Lisbon and I'm in love 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:43.239 with this country. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.360 In love, no man, no man yet still no. Oh, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:48.600 you know, there's lots of them. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.760 But I'm with my daughter and let me just say, 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.040 all the eyes are on her. But in course fabulous. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.800 It's beautiful, the weather's fabulous, Tomorrow's and beach today. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.040 Love, love, love, love this country. What about you, John, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:02.520 what are you up to? Gosh? 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.520 You know it's a kind of rainy and gross here 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.400 right now. But getting on a plane same as Susan. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:12.800 Tomorrow We're headed to nap Off for I have fun plants, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.720 just for a weekend. It's not like you staying in 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.720 the United States. But I'm really looking forward to it. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.000 John. Do you think we're going to have some good wine? Yeah? Thanks, Susan. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.640 Rub it in okay, So I have one more thing 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.200 to ask a hair By the way, I was supposed 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.160 to be on that trip, but I did op for Lisbon. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.080 Over well, Portugal is Portugal. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.720 Let's just say I chose port wine over I chose 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:43.959 port Wine over red Lappa. Okay, Susan real quick question here. Yeah, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.800 your hair. You know I follow you and your haircuts. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.280 What are you doing with your hair? 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.280 Yes, Kathy, I gave myself a haircut yesterday. You just 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.760 said it looked long, and I just cut it last night. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.880 Your highlights are so cool. I love them. I've never 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.520 seen you with like highlights up in front like that. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.680 Many thanks, I love it. You know, it's funny. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.800 I was reading some of the comments from the people 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.800 you know, and some lady. Most people like it. Some 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.120 lady goes, I wish you never changed your dark hair. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.680 Two toned hair is not in. It doesn't look good 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.079 on you. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:15.720 Did you look at her picture to see what she 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.080 looks like? 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.840 I don't even bother anymore. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.560 We got to get into this episode because here's what 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:25.000 never changes. Yes, if there is one thing for sure, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:30.880 it's the divorce. Haircuts changed, hair color changes, but divorce 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:32.840 never stops. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.679 You know you think you have it bad? 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:39.239 Ladies, wait till you hear what some of these celebs 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.399 are going through in their chapter two? 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:42.720 Are you ready to get into it? 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.760 I'm ready and I can talk talking about Jessica Simpsons. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.639 Jessica Simpson shares her side of run in with ex 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:54.840 husband Nick Lache. Jessica finds setting the record straight irresistible. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.160 Don't we all sing your address? Recent claims made by 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.200 her ex husband Nick Lache, who detailed they're unexpected to 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.120 run in on a flight to Hawaii and recounted how 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.080 she sat in first class as her three kids, Maxwell fourteen, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.680 Ace twelve, and Birdie seven flew in a separate class 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.520 of service with their dad, Eric Johnson. My mom bought 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.600 those tickets, Jessica clarified in a May twenty interview published 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.920 by Page six. It was my mom's treat for us 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.639 to go to Hawaii. The forty five year old added, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.600 I'm sure she thought that sounded bad that if she 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.400 had purchased the tickets, her children would of course be 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:30.280 seated with her. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.119 I think we need to get john Wait, you got 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.320 to stop right there. Really, any of our. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:40.600 Mothers bought tickets for our kids and myself and my spouse, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.120 whatever would they really put our kids, would our mothers 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.520 if they were alive, in my case, put our kids 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.320 in steerage and put us in first class. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.280 Dear, I love it too, of course not. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.440 And the fact that I'm sure she knew she had 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.000 a different seat. I'm sure she could look at the 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.800 tickets and say, okay, I'm in like three and they're 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.480 in twenty sevn y. She could tell that they were 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.360 in a different class, and she could have changed her ticket. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.000 We all know that. So she chose not to. So 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.200 she's blaming this on her mom. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.600 But can I just add one thing, Kathy, wasn't it 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.040 you that said to me when I was griping about 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.560 going to Italy next week with my granddaughter and you said, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.680 you're not going to sit up in first class if 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.120 you get upgraded? I said no, because Bella can't, and 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:28.560 he said I would, Jessica. I'm gonna call you, Jessica. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.279 Wait, there is a difference between buying a ticket and 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:33.080 being upgraded. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.880 But wait, that is not bad enough. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.279 Nick, who was married to Jessica from two thousand and 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.400 two to two thousand and six, recounted on a May 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.360 thirteenth episode appearance of Watch What happens live how we 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.320 crossed paths with Jessica two decades after their divorce. They 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.560 haven't seen each other in twenty years, and then they 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.320 spent six and a half hours on a flight to Hawaii, Like, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.080 is this somebody's idea of a bad joke. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.560 But they weren't together, you know how it isn't a 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.000 plane if you're not sitting near anybody, you don't even 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.720 see them. I mean they were on the same airplane. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.320 Chances are they didn't see each other other than crossing 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.120 maybe like when they were waiting to get on the 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.760 plane and getting off the plane. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.159 So yeah, well he does say that everyone was very 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:24.720 very cordial, very respectful. You know, first class is small, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.680 so I want to know, with Nick in first class 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.640 with his wife Vanessa, I'm guessing maybe. So I'm guessing 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.080 maybe it was a little more cozy than what we're thinking. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.200 Mm hmm. Moving but alone. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.559 They all have good careers that they all could probably 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.440 afford it. I just didn't sound like they really were 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.280 because he said on that indycoone interview. But when I 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.760 say spent like we spent time, you know, on the 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.839 same flight, he says, in the same vicinity so I 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.080 don't think that means that they like they He would 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.560 have said I was in first class too. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.480 We all know that this is about Yeah. I think 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:57.359 he was being planned. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.880 I think they were all in the free drinks section. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.440 I don't think they talked. I think they were all hottails. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.000 I want to ask both of your questions, Joan, you 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:11.839 and I are widows, so Susan, I'm coming at you, baby, 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.480 if you ran into your acts on the flight, would 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.880 I know the answer, but just play with me here? 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.880 Talk to them? Would you try to sit next to them? 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.000 Would you avoid him? 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.919 I would definitely talk to them, definitely. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.440 I don't know that i'd go out of my way 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.479 to sit next to him because he talks a lot. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:31.760 Well, you have a. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.360 Great relationship with your yes, and we all know that, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.039 which is wonderful, great for you, great for your kids. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:41.960 Like kept that family continuity good. You know they didn't 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.880 Conjessica Simpson and Nikola Chey didn't have kids together, so 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.680 I think when they split, they really split. There was 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.279 nothing left. There was no talking clearly for twenty years, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.880 so like, who cares if they spoke at this point, like, hey, 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.000 hope you're doing well. You know, enjoy your time in 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.120 Hawaii would have been about all I probably would have done. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.720 Yeah, especially with your wife next to you and your 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.679 children and they were all up there. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.920 He said it was fine. So you know what, more powered, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.719 I hope had a great time in Hawaii. Hope the 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:09.400 weather was good. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.560 Well, so why it probably was. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.239 Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.440 Moving right along now we have Jason Biggs and wife 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:21.880 Jenny Mullin split kepterr eighteen years of marriage. Jason and 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:26.440 his wife Jenny after eighteen years. I mean that's a 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.560 long time. A rep for the couple confirmed to People 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.119 on Thursday, May fourteenth that Bigs forty eight and Mullin 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.480 forty six have separated, though they remain on great terms 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.440 and are focused on co parenting their two sons, Lazio 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.960 and Sid eight and twelve. A source close to the 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.440 pair tells People that Mullin and Biggs are doing great 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.760 and spent BIG's forty eighth birthday together as a family 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.320 on Tuesday the twelfth. Now, see that's cool. I said, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:57.920 that's cool. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.880 We would do that here. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.920 Yeah, they're very much connected, the source says of Biggs 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.680 and Mullin's future as co parents. I have no doubt 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:10.560 they will remain on excellent terms. They met on the 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.400 set of a two thousand and eight movie, My Best 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.600 Friend's Girl. The pair were engaged in January two thousand 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.720 and eight and eloped in a private ceremony that April. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.960 In July of that year, they exchanged valves for a 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:29.000 second time at a ceremony in Napa, California that featured 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:33.119 about forty guests in attendance, As people reported at the time. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.440 Okay, Susan Wade, I have a question for both. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.839 I know it's eighteen years later, but if you elope 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.320 and then you have a private ceremony, I don't know, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.160 doesn't it kind of feel like I don't know. I 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.559 got it was eighteen years later, but I just want 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.959 I wanted that to work out. I did. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:53.960 Well. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.120 You know what the history of kind of Hollywood marriages 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.200 is they are pretty sure, you know, five six, maybe 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.960 ten years, eighteen years, you're starting to get invested like 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.319 this is one of the good ones. They're going to 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.480 stay together, and then they springing on us that they're not. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.760 And I feel that one. It also has to you know, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:11.520 has kids involved. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.880 You know that they have, and they say here that 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:19.199 they kept their life together relatively private and helps tend 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.720 to keep their sons out of the public eye, so 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.199 they didn't app that. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.120 Yes, absolutely, I think that's but I don't know. So 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.440 here's I mean, Joan, you and I were married. I 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.720 was married the longest of I mean, other than methusel 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.160 I've been married the longest of anybody. Joan, you were 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.400 married a long time, Susan. Actually, you know you were 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:39.200 married a long time. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:39.640 Yes. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.800 People ask me this all the time. Do you think 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.640 you should have to renew year marriage fast? Would you 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:47.320 have done that? 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:48.600 Joan? Would you have done that? 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.440 It's not necessary, but some people love to celebrate that 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.959 they're still in love, because I do that for a living. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.160 So don't damn it. I just would do Would you 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.079 do it, Susan, I wouldn't. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.040 If I had somebody maybe No, no, no, if I 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.400 was still in love after two no, no, No. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.560 It's not vows, Honeybunny. It's renewing your marriage. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.840 It's not. It's not a declaration. It is Kathy, it's legal, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:16.760 and it is. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.439 What I'm saying, Susan is and John, do you think 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.040 renewing your marriage like we go and renew our driver's license. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.079 What every five six, sex years, four years, whatever. Well 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.160 it's different in every state. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.040 But do you think you should have to renew your 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.080 marriage because I will tell you I dated a guy, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.040 uh for not that long, but he had lived with 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.760 a woman and he said that every six months they 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.200 sat down and decided whether they wanted to recommit now 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.040 they weren't married. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:47.760 But would you ever do that? 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.880 It's a big difference. I feel like I think you 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.120 opened up a whole can of worms because we're no 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.560 or what the answer is? Maybe like how it's not 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.000 like going to the DMV and say I'm going to 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.960 continue to drive. I'm going to continue to not drive, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.840 to continue to drive. There's the only application is on you. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.320 You're not going to drive anymore when you say we're 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.440 not going to be a couple anymore than the answers 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.360 and you have to get divorced. And so that's like 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.520 a whole big thing. I don't think that it's really feasible. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.280 I don't think it's so bad to check in on 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.800 your marriage, you know, every few months, every few years. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.120 I have a friend who he is a divorce attorney 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.640 and she is a couple's counselor, and they are married 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.760 and they have the greatest marriage. They have such a 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.959 weird like dichotomy of what they do and they are 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.160 so good at staying Mary because they do that, like 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.920 that's something that is in their like you know, monthly 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.680 check in. They sit down and go to dinner and 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.400 they talk about what's working, what isn't. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.240 So that's it's like being in therapy. Right, It's like 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.800 being in therapy. You talk, you communicate. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.080 Joe brings up a good point. Joe, a great point, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.520 because think about it. You go out to dinner to 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.679 have your conversation about renewing your. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.960 Marriage, not in your vows, like do we want before? 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.200 So how are we? What page are we on? Yeah? 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.240 He says no, you know what I'm going to say? 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.640 Okay, fine, I want the house in the Hamptons and 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.960 five percent of the checking accounting savings and your retirement. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.360 Well yeah, and what do we do with our kids? 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.120 Like I mean, then that opens that whole thing if 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.199 you have kids of who you know, custody and stuff 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.520 like that. So I certainly don't think it's a good idea. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.600 I get the point of checking in on your marriage. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.640 I just don't think it should be like a legal thing. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:25.200 Right right. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.599 I think it's a good idea. I do, I actually do. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.280 Well wait do you hear this? So recently, she shared 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:35.040 a photo of herself and Bigs on Instagram. A totally 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:39.120 approachable couple, not trying to seduce you, she wrote in 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.320 a caption, how cute. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.040 Okay, they are a cute couple. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.880 I mean they were, and you know what, they're going 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.080 to go on as because as you pointed out, John, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.360 they're gonna go on in Hollywood. They're going to find 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.520 their next one. And you know, two years from now 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.280 will either be saying congrats on the marriage. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.520 Or they moved on again. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.559 It wasn't too long ago that we were. We did 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.000 a pod cast on the celebrations of divorce. Right, they 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.640 got a ring, they had a cake, they had a party, 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.000 a divorce party. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:16.880 You know, whatever works, is what I say. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:20.959 Okay, we got to move on. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:27.199 Real Housewives of Miami star Lisa and her ex boyfriend 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:33.360 Jody Gliddon's they got their spying charges dropped. Lisa and 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:38.040 her ex boyfriend Jody are no longer facing criminal charges. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.040 They were each arrested in April. Are you ready for this? 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:47.760 On one felony charge of interception of wire, oral or 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.800 electronic communications after allegedly placing. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:56.960 A recording device in her ex husband's Lenny's car. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.640 Amid their divorce proceedings in twenty twenty three. I'm just 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.440 going to say to you, I had to read this like, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.520 hold on, there's too many people, So it gets worse. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.720 They reached an agreement with the prosecution and the charges 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:15.240 will be dismissed mid June without any admission of guilt 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.840 or conviction. You got to love our legal system, Okay. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.480 So that all just happened on Tuesday, May nineteenth, which 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.320 by the way, would have been my fifty third wedding anniversary. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:31.640 So people reached out to Winetraub for a comment and 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:38.160 they both Lisa and Glyndon were accepted into the Advocacy 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:43.600 Program's Felony Trial Diversion program. This was according to court 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:48.080 documents obtained by People. The private, not for profit Justice 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.600 agency offers court ordered individuals the ability to have their 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.960 arrest record are we ready sealed and or expuse and 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.720 have the charges dropped by the State Attorney's office if 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:06.160 they remain and I'm quoting arrest free. This is all 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:11.560 according to the agency site. Will somebody please tell me? Wait, wait, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.640 I have a question. Now, both of them were arrested. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.080 So they were doing it. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.640 Yep, well they were doing it together. They were together 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.360 doing it. But I mean the crazy thing is he 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.080 allowed her to borrow his car. The article says, yeah, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.360 person allowed her to borrow his Mercedes Mercedes been GLS 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:31.440 six hundred Maybach. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:32.400 Yes. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.840 He discovers a few days later that there is this 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.800 weird thing underneath his seat and he pulls it out 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.120 and he sees it, his tape all over it, and 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.760 it is a recording device. Now who else could it be? 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:46.360 We back up for a minute. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.680 I've never been divorced, but I'm going to say that 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.640 is a pricey car, and I'm divorced from somebody, and 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.360 I got my ex. You know, it's so many players 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.920 in this, in this cast of characters. Hey, honey, can 0:15:59.960 --> 0:16:04.360 if I borrow your really expensive card because I'm thinking about. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.800 Buying one for myself. Sure we're divorced, go for it. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.600 I mean really, because she couldn't have gone to a 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.560 Mercedes dealership and gotten one. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.960 What was she trying to learn though? I mean, what 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.200 was she trying to hear? 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.720 Well, I mean, he doesn't ever talk about what that 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.320 is like that she's trying to hear. But I'm sure 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.160 that there was contention between them because you're getting divorced. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.320 He has a new girlfriend, she has a new boyfriend. 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.560 Okay, so Lenny, smart guy. When he finds the device, 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.960 he alerts his lawyer. They hire experts who sorry, who 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.480 recovered several recordings from the device, and the warrant claims, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.640 adding that quote, one of the last recordings from before 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.040 the vehicle was returned to the victim, depicts Lisa and 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.240 Glyndon holding a discussion and the distinct sound of a 0:16:56.280 --> 0:17:00.440 device such as the hidden recorder, being wrestled in place, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.480 and then the device later captured the former couple speaking 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.760 about their kids, his plastic surgery practice, finances, and a 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.720 construction project. All this, again is according to the artist warrant. 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.560 I'm wondering if they discussed dental appointments. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.680 You know, no, what they did way worse because listen 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:23.840 to this. It says detectives allegedly recovered deleted materilla from 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.880 the device, including a tape of Lisa and Glidden engage 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:32.199 in intimate activities and other conversations between them, which so 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.239 first of all, like that is all nuts. They had 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.520 all these discussions knowing that the device was recording. Obviously, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.320 I guess they thought it's never going to give you know, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.240 found It'll only be us hearing these these things. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.320 No, no, no, Joan, Well you had me until the 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:53.120 last bit. Why would you engage think about this. You've 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.080 now returned the car to your ex husband, who has 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.280 filed for divorce in May of twenty twenty two, now 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.560 returned the car. You have engaged in these acts, said 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.040 these things, and you've given the car back with the 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:09.560 recording device intact? 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.320 Does that make any of. 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.159 You were confident that they had done such a good 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.840 job being spies that they would never be caught. Yet 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.560 they were terrible spies. Is never caught really fast? 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.320 Stupid criminals are always caught. Wait. 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.439 It says that she bought him from Amazon three months prior, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.840 but she bought two of the exact same models, So 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.119 maybe she put the wrong one in his cost. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.240 But why would you be recording yourself? 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.560 Like I know, I don't exactly. Okay, here's the last thing. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.439 Though, they had it says amid their divorce battle, So 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.600 this was not a copathetic divorce clearly, but you know, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.439 let's lend you the car. Anyway, they were involved in 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:57.120 and contentious proceedings. Lisa alleged she was being financially strangled 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.480 by Lenny. So you know what, if I'm being financially 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.639 strangled by God, I'm going to ask you if I 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:02.400 can borrow your car. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.480 I mean, none of this makes sense. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.800 And then his then girlfriend Katerina Matzappa I can't even 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.640 say her last name, Mazeppa, also filed a restraining order 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.119 against Lisa, although that was later dismissed. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.520 You know what we call this in the home country, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.280 a michig gos what Well. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.920 The thing that shocks me the most is it sounds 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.480 like there is so much evidence against them. They have 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.159 her buying the devices, They have them talking in the 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.320 car where the device is hand and it sounds like 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.479 they are handling the device trying to tape it up 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.840 under the like they have all of this sales. They 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:40.359 have sounds of them like doing intemn So they have 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.080 them on the device, they had them in the car, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:47.399 they had her purchasing device. Why did they drop these charges? 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.679 I don't know. But here's here's one other question I have. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.840 Lenny was ordered to pay Lisa fifteen thousand dollars per 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.200 month in child support. 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.439 And that's how she's financially being strangled. Right. 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.800 Wait, so that's number one, Susan. Number two, Could she 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.119 not have afforded a better recording device. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:08.760 Hired somebody to install it? 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.399 And moving right along on? 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:12.960 Moving on? 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:13.919 How about this? 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.159 Mandy Moore makes rare comment about ex Ryan Adams claims 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.320 he didn't ask her dad for a blessing to propose. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.280 I don't know what you guys think about this. Let 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.639 me read this a little bit and then let's talk 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.680 about it. Danny Moore is recalling the moment her husband, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:32.400 Taylor Goldsmith, asked for her dad's hand in marriage. That's 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.879 not really what happened. Asked for her hand in marriage 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.480 from her dad, which is allegedly something her first husband, 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.000 Right Adams didn't do. He was touched, Mandy recalled after 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.639 the Tuesday May nineteenth episode of What Was Us podcast 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:49.080