WEBVTT - Micah Powell 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.120 R and B Money. We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:14.800 Than take MALLOCHI. We are the authority on all things 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.560 R and B, ladies and gentleman. My name is Tank. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.240 This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.800 on all things R and B. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:27.960 About to get into the ship. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.639 It's about to get R and B. Yeah, the credential 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.040 list is long. Yes, how many people you don't wrote 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:34.600 and produced for? 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.880 How long you've been doing it? Who wish? Is your competitive? 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:39.960 Is your competitive? 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:48.360 You mean with trying to kick down those Yeah? Yeah, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.080 is it supposed to be? What his post? 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:58.200 The gentleman brother Michael Pile and the building, our good brother. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:02.760 It is good to finally be here. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.200 Brothers, never matter after a matter of when, whenever you 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.200 felt like, you know, gracing us with your presence, I 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.679 want to say, I want to I want to kick 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.800 this motherfucker off like this. You are probably in the 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:24.680 spirit of competitive nature, like in terms of knowing somebody 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.160 competitive in this ship, not just in this ship, in life, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:38.880 in life you are him. I've watched you from the beginning, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.160 whether it be on the basketball court, in the studio wherever. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.200 I'm gonna figure this ship out, and I'm not gonna 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.400 stop until I do. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.800 We be in that gym. I ain't win today, I'll 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.400 be back. I'll be back. Who will pick you on 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.560 the team? 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.040 Me and and he'd tell me just keep shooting, just 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.800 keep shooting, cook him cut. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.760 I got you back, and I would cut and you 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:08.320 would come. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.200 It wasn't every day, but I was they came to 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:13.560 the gym. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.519 I was good because because I saw something in you 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.160 that I saw. I saw that no quit in you. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.120 Early my night me and Jameson talk about you. I said, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.760 when that nigga figured it out, he's gonna be a 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:34.720 problem because he's he's he's taking the fucking stairs. He 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.400 not taking no shortcuts. He is taking the absolute stairs. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.000 And and not to go too far forward, because we're 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.480 gonna talk about all that, but being in the studio 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.400 with you working on my album and watching you work 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.080 like differently than you working for everybody else, like you 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.840 were actually working for me, and me being able to 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:02.119 sit back and say, let him, let him you see 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.520 where he is right now. It was just you at 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.440 the mic I think was it recording. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.040 Is always That's the only one I remember. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:10.360 He was. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:11.720 He was right there beside you, and it was you 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:16.359 at the board with the mic and him and who 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.120 was it me? And uh, who is with us? 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:24.240 Frank? But also to he came later we had Lucky 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:24.839 in there too. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:28.519 They came. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.840 But when we were doing and you were sitting there 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.160 at the mic and you were working hm, and I 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.720 was just like and Frank was like, no he should 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:38.160 mm hmm. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.800 He cooked. Let him cook. He cooked ham. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.240 Yeah, And I was like, this motherfucker got it. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.280 He figured it out. He got it. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:49.040 He hot. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.280 That's crazy that you said that, man. And I really 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.680 appreciate you, like throughout the years, really pouring into me 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.400 like he did, because that's the type of energy I'll 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:00.400 always respect to. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.480 Yeah, I just need one nigga. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.880 To just put the battery in, you know what I mean. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.960 Then I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it cooking. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.800 But you know, my my process, things don't just come 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.200 like that, you know what I mean. But if you 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.920 sit there, like you said, letting nigga simmers fall back, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.200 let him cook, give him a couple of times to 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.400 work up, and you're gonna get with you, you know. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.680 Because you're you're you're cerebro, you know what I mean, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.800 Like you're smart and so you know Man, I appreciate 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:30.640 you saying all this shit. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.560 For real. I really am taking all this in. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.400 Bro. I'm sorry. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:33.760 Bro. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:39.000 Bro, we've been watching you for years, for years. You're smart, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.000 and you're like, okay, and then and then I'm gonna 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.080 do this and then see what the way that we've 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.560 had those phone conversations and then nigga, because I'm gonna 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.240 put it that way, make it and it's like this, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.479 I hear you. Everything we've ever talked about, everything that 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:54.800 you've always said that you're. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:57.839 That's why you're here. You're here. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.520 We have to tell that story because again, everybody, always, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:07.400 everybody loves to celebrate the finished product with that story 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:08.560 and that journey there. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.320 Come on that mud, Yeah. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:12.840 That rough side of that mountain. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.839 That process you god damn right, that process for real. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.520 I ain't listen. I haven't hit a lottery. I never 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.919 hit the lottery in the business. Now we're living a lottery, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.160 but I've never hit the just run away. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.279 I have to work for all of them. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.200 So that's where we're relating that because you got to 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.120 live that one. You gotta be a dog to live 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.600 that one, because we got to start from the beginning 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.000 every time. Yeah, every time, you gotta have a different 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.240 kind of muscle. Yeah, to have fifteen twenty of just 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:47.880 grind out. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.880 Yes, it's just something that you want. My dad always 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.680 told me what you had that your brother. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.279 Didn't have was tenacity. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.120 He got it and and I took that in it 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.640 because you know, as an artist, you want to feel respected. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.080 And I felt like the ones getting respect were the 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.800 ones that were just everything they touched turn go or 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.720 they just was getting it off the top, and I 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.400 was putting unwanted pressure on myself. Once I slowed down though, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.920 and got to really like understand, all right, I could 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.760 take my time with this, and if they want to 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.919 allow me to take my time, then it ain't for me. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.240 But I got to do my process. So when you say, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.320 like work at it, I think my whole. If you 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.000 could sum up my life as a whole, it would 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:39.200 just be one word process. I'm always in process. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.320 Well, let's go to the beginning's process, Yes, sir, let's 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.640 go to the beginning. When I E, I've lived out 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.560 that way. I got some friends out there. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.080 Out there. He is it fifteen I E? Or two fifteen? 0:06:55.160 --> 0:07:01.760 I E? Question, I'm two fifteen? Is deep? 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:07.400 I E? Yeah, uh, that's a good one. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.800 You you probably more like fifteen if you was in 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.280 Rancho Ontario. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.640 I was Rancho, Yeah, I was. I was Corona. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.000 There was the niggas that moved on up, you know 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:17.400 what I mean. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.800 I wasn't up. I was moving down. I had to 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.680 get out of l A because the money was funny. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.080 Oh ye, so you know they had this nice two 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.680 bedroom in Rancho Cucamonga. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.360 Yeah for a steal. You're still. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.360 On the two fifteen. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.080 He was on the team. What's the part out there 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.200 in the name name sam burn bernd. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.200 Yeah, I mean you got Sarardino, then you got Rialto, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.360 then you got Fontana, then you got uh, Rancho got Ontario. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:48.880 I'm trying to think what sam Berni. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.000 You can't say sam Bernid, Boden, sam Berdena and Burdeno. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.080 So yeah, from out there, we called it, we call 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.360 it the din. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.600 So one of my guys heardest he was my production 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.680 manager and all of that. For years. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.160 That's where him and his family lived. So I would 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.440 always go out there to hang out with him and 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.320 his family what have you. And I thought it was 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.480 cool out there, and that's what gave me even the 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.480 idea when I just wasn't working out for me, I 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:13.760 was like, man, I got to go somewhere where I 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.400 can in the live cool and still get back if 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.240 I need to. That's why I went to Rancho and 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:18.800 went to Croma. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.640 That's yeah. I like that. I was out there living it. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.120 I was. I was. It was the best buy. No, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.480 it was a circus city out there. I was. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.280 I was the king of Circus City. I was always 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.280 buying something out of Circus City. King king of Circus City. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.839 And then there was a red Lobster. I was the 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.600 king of that red lobster. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:38.959 That was always those two places. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.000 And those two places A Biscus, Yeah, they knew where 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.319 you was and everything, and and uh Ontario Mills. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.599 Yeah, you know, you gotta get to get there. You 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.160 gotta get your clothes. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:57.920 At a discount when the money you know, let you 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.480 know what I'm saying, you can still look like last seasons. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:05.760 But you know, so you you born and raised there. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.920 I'm born in Sanmardino, really raised in Rialto. I lived 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.480 in Salmordino for like four or five years of my 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.760 life and then my dad uh married again and shout 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:23.080 out to my dad who uh on his own man 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.200 was taking care of three boys and a girl on 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.920 the weekends in Samarandino. My dad actually built the projects 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.640 we was born in. What he built the projects we 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:33.080 was born in. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.160 We was in construction. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.160 No, it just was he needed a job, and so 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.640 he worked on the projects we was born. Like, I 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.920 came home to the first place I ever lived. He 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.280 worked in the hell building. He helped build them. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.040 Yeah, but not by trade. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:52.960 Out of survival. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.640 Nigga, what y'all need these logs? Yeah, you need a hammeletage. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.480 Come on, ain't it out? 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.480 My dad did whatever so these kids so yeah, So 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.600 we basically grew up in the projects. We didn't know 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.400 they was projects because they was townhomes. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:17.800 None of us, none of us, See, I didn't stay 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.560 long enough to know that. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.720 Yeah, tell me everybody didn't have roaches. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:38.400 That never woke up with a roach run across the okay. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.680 Super super roach. They were just staying neat with you. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:41.600 What you what you'll got? 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.160 Yah? 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:44.839 I like that. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.760 You get to a point you turn the lights on, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.640 they don't even run. It's just lazy. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.559 But look at you like this, what you need? Can 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:54.559 we help you. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:55.840 You know, we got an agreement. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:56.560 You're killing us. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.959 And then you go up to the bathroom a certain hour. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.960 They like, what you're doing in here? This is our time. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.040 Like I'm talking about. Yeah, bro, I'm talking about I 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.440 lived in like project talking about Candy House. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:13.200 M hmm. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.480 We had the candy lady. Realized how dangerous that is. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.560 Live there though you don't feel dangerous, it just feels 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.719 like your friends. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.120 Really, But it's the thing. Can we say this, It 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.480 wasn't as dangerous. It was dangerous. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.560 It was dangerous. You were just you were just part 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.440 of that environment at the time. It was dangerous. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.480 So I grew up in there was a project called 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.800 the Little Zions right across the street, back and forth, shootouts. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.360 It was all that. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.320 I understand that. I understand that, understand the Vinus was there, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.959 understand all these things was there. But I think that 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.400 I think that the ogs at that point in time 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:02.080 had a little bit more reverence for kids and women. Yeah, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:08.400 but you got to say, because because is that But listen, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.800 the grandmothers were still there too. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.960 It's true, that's true, and it was some it was 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.400 some respect, it was something. It was still something like 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.640 you say, the candy lady. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.120 The candy lady wasn't wasn't putting nothing crazy in your 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.440 true candy living that never put you never heard of 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.959 somebody say I got something from the candle lad that 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:26.719 was on the hospital for. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:27.480 Two days, for two weeks. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:33.560 Now, yeah, you just don't know. It's now, it's really 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.080 there's no respect, no more. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:36.800 Right. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.680 So my mind wasn't a project, but it was a hood. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.800 I didn't know. I didn't know. Of course, we didn't 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.400 know it was the hood. I just knew it was 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.400 a bunch of gang members and fights and stabbings and whatever. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.040 I thought that was normal. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:58.640 Like you grew up in the fifties, the knife was 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.760 very well. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.600 A knife and a fight was a thing. Somebody had 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:13.839 a gun. He was different, pop. So it's just like, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.439 you know, I just feel like my great grandfather had respect. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.640 I mean he had a shotgun on the porch, but 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.559 everybody else had knives. See that you had it's all 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.040 making now you'all house had the gun. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.520 Your gun makes perfect sense. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:33.880 You was with the equalizer. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.080 He had to watch. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.520 Paul Lewis had that shotgun on standby. Put the little 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:48.880 dim and sit on that port and dare a nigga 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.920 to talk, just not saying nothing to him, to talk. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.600 Talk while you're in front of my house. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.360 He had a different type of chip on his shoulder. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.840 What was going on, right, Hey, paul Lewis come home 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.680 and say, it's a big difference now, Paul Lewis home, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.920 full name. It's a big motherfucking difference now. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.040 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah? 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.080 And is it? And we'd be sitting at the kids 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:22.640 the tableau. Don't look up, just don't look at it. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.440 If you don't look at him, keep walking, don't don't 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:26.440 look at him. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.880 Yeah, Paul Lewis home now, his white big Mamay. I know, I. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:35.080 Know, I know. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:36.280 My grandma was the only one. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.880 Sit down somewhere, Pop, go sit down somewhere. You've been drinking, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.720 sit down, and my grandma was the only one the 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:43.160 rest of us. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:44.440 Mm hmm. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.400 But it's like you said, it's like the difference in respect. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.320 But getting back to your to your to your story 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.240 like that growing up in the hood thing and your 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.800 father working on the projects as not a constructor is 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.480 giving me more insight into your blood line. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.720 People. And to think that. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.960 This nigga was like twenty three years old, twenty three. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.880 This nigga was like with folk kids. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.480 Oh he was woman R and B music for you 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:20.440 know what. For sure, I think it was the gospel. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.400 He was in the church with twenty at twenty three 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.200 with four kids. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.160 They didn't kick him out, no, because he was married. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.360 Oh okay, all right, Yeah he got married. They got 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.160 married young, but they kind of got forced to get married. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.960 I mean, it's a it's a classic black story. I 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.360 had the I had the grandfather that was the. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:41.480 You're gonna marry my baby. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:47.000 Yeah, but also too well, he was my mom's stepdad 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.720 because my mom's dad was Filipino and he got gunned 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.640 down when she was like seven. Uh so we never 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:59.160 really like knew him like that. But yeah, that's another story. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.920 But getting back to like my upbringing, yeah, projects all 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.480 of that until five and then we moved. We moved 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.040 up for us, moved to Rialto and we actually lived 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.720 in the neighborhood. My dad got married to my stepmom. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.640 They're still still together today. And yeah, we moved to 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.760 a we moved to a three bedroom house that was 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:27.040 like a thousand square feet and but it looked like 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:32.080 it was it was like a bedroom, right, Yeah, every 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.320 bedrooms literally was. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.680 Just going from a bedroom to bedroom to bears. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.160 Yes, literally going from bedroom in the bedroom. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.360 But because when you think about it now, yes, it's 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.280 like when you go back to the house you grew 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.160 up in, everything is really Yeah, everything seems really small. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.160 But when I was a kid, this was the biggest house. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.600 But even people though about that. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.840 Yeah, yeah, you're like d you was really a little 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.120 nigga talking ship to be like that, Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.360 just because you was thirty, Yeah yeah, little as that 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:06.560 should have fired on you. Hey, when you grow up 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.200 and go through stuff, you you realize how it ain't ship. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:09.919 Motherfuckers. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:16.040 Was niggas promising you bikes and ship? What lost in you? Yeah? 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.000 All the while trying to get that to your mama. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.160 They were trying to get that mama, my daddy. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:31.680 Come on, you're in real in this new space. Do 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.200 you do you at some point while you're while you're 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.719 this kid, realized that you have a love for music 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.639 or does somebody kind of pointed out for you. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.199 Oh No, I knew it for me because I was 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.200 real in kindergarten. I don't remember much about kindergarten, but 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.520 I do remember that I did a talent show with 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.080 the group and we were new additions, had a group, yes, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.480 and I was mad because I couldn't be Bobby Brown. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.359 Well you should be. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.399 Somebody else picked Bobby Man. Somebody else picked Bobby. And 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.040 on top of that, I had this suit that I hated. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.600 I hated niggas that wore the suits I wanted to. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.040 I wanted to express myself in church. That's probably why 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.520 I hated it. I had this suit on it and 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.400 I didn't At this point, I didn't know which one 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.479 which member I was. I just knew I wasn't Bobby, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.640 and they didn't give me the leads. And I think 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:27.560 that of all I knew was this other nigga named Brandon, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.800 and he was my he was my boy. But he 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.359 took the lead part and I just kept looking at 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.760 him like man, why Yes, That's this is when I knew, 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:37.919 like R and B was my shape because I wanted to, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.679 especially sing my prorogative, and I wanted to do that 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.080 lean that he'd be doing. And I had a gunby 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.879 just like Bobby. It was a kitchen cut, but it 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.280 was a biggest singing the lead. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:50.000 Yes. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:51.800 Wait, but and then that's the other thing. I think 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.040 they tricked you because my prerogative is not a new addition. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.280 That's just Bobby by himself. So actually you were in 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.399 Heart and Soul as a dancer. You really wasn't in 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.760 new edition. No, I'm giving you the real now, because. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.600 Right we was new audition. But I wanted to sing 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:06.320 my parrogative. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:07.880 That's what I'm saying, y'all wasn't new edition. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:14.520 If y'all as the telephone man, No, he wasn't my 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.640 paraety you know now. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.520 And I told you, I don't remember much now that 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.520 I think about it. Now I think about it. We 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.960 were singing the Boys. You remember the Boys? 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.320 Do I remember the boys? R and B? 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.040 I wasn't the lead nigga. And that's what I talked 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:39.720 about and checked this out. Hakeem is Michah spelled backwards. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.120 Man, what what what are you doing? 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.760 That's what I was, nigga. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:51.680 This is all that was going through my moment. But 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:52.680 that's my name. 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:59.040 Yes, So it was that moment, that talent show that 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.439 I knew that I wanted to do music. 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:02.399 I wanted to be R and B. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.080 My mom took us to remember at the the carnival, 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.480 they used to have this place where you could do. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:08.600 Your own music video. Yep. 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:13.480 Absolutely, And so my mom and my stepdad, who was 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:15.600 shout out the og day Foreman. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.440 Y'all probably know Dave Forman, guitar player. He was my stepdad. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.320 He was married to my mom. Yeah, it's gonna get 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.640 tricky because it's a lot of times we're gonna uncover. 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:26.879 Are you kidding me? 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:34.320 No, I'm not kidding. Dave Forman was my stepdadges I've 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:38.560 shared with Dave Forman, everybody shared with Dave Foreman. And 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.439 to bring it all around full circle, day form A 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.679 co produce on the song with DJ Quick that I 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.960 did with the Game. Were all in the session, like 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.439 old school session, doing it from scratch, and I'm in 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:54.919 my I'm my mind is blown that this has happened. 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:56.840 This was just a couple of years ago. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.560 That's crazy. Yeah, so I never knew that. Yeah. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.120 So my mom was married to day for me. They 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.080 took us to the carnival and we did, we did, 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.480 and that day we did Down my Heart and I 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.320 was the lead nigga because it was me. 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:12.960 It was it was me, and it was me and 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:13.480 my two. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.480 Brothers because now it's his brothers. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.359 Yeah, it was me. And my two brothers and Dave 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:24.600 and his uh my uncle Al and other dude named Cliff. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.640