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Speaker 1: R and B Money. We are.

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Speaker 2: Than take MALLOCHI. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 2: R and B, ladies and gentleman. My name is Tank.

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Speaker 1: This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority

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Speaker 1: on all things R and B.

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Speaker 3: About to get into the ship.

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Speaker 1: It's about to get R and B. Yeah, the credential

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Speaker 1: list is long. Yes, how many people you don't wrote

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Speaker 1: and produced for?

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Speaker 2: How long you've been doing it? Who wish? Is your competitive?

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Speaker 2: Is your competitive?

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Speaker 1: You mean with trying to kick down those Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is it supposed to be? What his post?

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Speaker 2: The gentleman brother Michael Pile and the building, our good brother.

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Speaker 4: It is good to finally be here.

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Speaker 1: Brothers, never matter after a matter of when, whenever you

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Speaker 1: felt like, you know, gracing us with your presence, I

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Speaker 1: want to say, I want to I want to kick

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Speaker 1: this motherfucker off like this. You are probably in the

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Speaker 1: spirit of competitive nature, like in terms of knowing somebody

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Speaker 1: competitive in this ship, not just in this ship, in life,

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Speaker 1: in life you are him. I've watched you from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: whether it be on the basketball court, in the studio wherever.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure this ship out, and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: stop until I do.

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Speaker 2: We be in that gym. I ain't win today, I'll

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Speaker 2: be back. I'll be back. Who will pick you on

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Speaker 2: the team?

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Speaker 4: Me and and he'd tell me just keep shooting, just

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Speaker 4: keep shooting, cook him cut.

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Speaker 2: I got you back, and I would cut and you

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Speaker 2: would come.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't every day, but I was they came to

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Speaker 4: the gym.

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Speaker 1: I was good because because I saw something in you

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Speaker 1: that I saw. I saw that no quit in you.

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Speaker 1: Early my night me and Jameson talk about you. I said,

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Speaker 1: when that nigga figured it out, he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: problem because he's he's he's taking the fucking stairs. He

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Speaker 1: not taking no shortcuts. He is taking the absolute stairs.

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Speaker 1: And and not to go too far forward, because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about all that, but being in the studio

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Speaker 1: with you working on my album and watching you work

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Speaker 1: like differently than you working for everybody else, like you

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Speaker 1: were actually working for me, and me being able to

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Speaker 1: sit back and say, let him, let him you see

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Speaker 1: where he is right now. It was just you at

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Speaker 1: the mic I think was it recording.

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Speaker 4: Is always That's the only one I remember.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: He was right there beside you, and it was you

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Speaker 1: at the board with the mic and him and who

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Speaker 1: was it me? And uh, who is with us?

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Speaker 4: Frank? But also to he came later we had Lucky

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Speaker 4: in there too.

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Speaker 3: They came.

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Speaker 1: But when we were doing and you were sitting there

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Speaker 1: at the mic and you were working hm, and I

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Speaker 1: was just like and Frank was like, no he should

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Speaker 1: mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: He cooked. Let him cook. He cooked ham.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, this motherfucker got it.

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Speaker 2: He figured it out. He got it.

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Speaker 3: He hot.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy that you said that, man. And I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate you, like throughout the years, really pouring into me

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Speaker 4: like he did, because that's the type of energy I'll

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Speaker 4: always respect to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just need one nigga.

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Speaker 4: To just put the battery in, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it cooking.

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Speaker 4: But you know, my my process, things don't just come

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Speaker 4: like that, you know what I mean. But if you

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Speaker 4: sit there, like you said, letting nigga simmers fall back,

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Speaker 4: let him cook, give him a couple of times to

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Speaker 4: work up, and you're gonna get with you, you know.

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Speaker 1: Because you're you're you're cerebro, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like you're smart and so you know Man, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you saying all this shit.

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Speaker 4: For real. I really am taking all this in.

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Speaker 2: Bro. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Bro, we've been watching you for years, for years. You're smart,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, and then and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do this and then see what the way that we've

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Speaker 1: had those phone conversations and then nigga, because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put it that way, make it and it's like this,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Everything we've ever talked about, everything that

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Speaker 1: you've always said that you're.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're here. You're here.

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Speaker 1: We have to tell that story because again, everybody, always,

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Speaker 1: everybody loves to celebrate the finished product with that story

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Speaker 1: and that journey there.

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Speaker 4: Come on that mud, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That rough side of that mountain.

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Speaker 4: That process you god damn right, that process for real.

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Speaker 1: I ain't listen. I haven't hit a lottery. I never

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Speaker 1: hit the lottery in the business. Now we're living a lottery,

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Speaker 1: but I've never hit the just run away.

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Speaker 4: I have to work for all of them.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we're relating that because you got to

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Speaker 1: live that one. You gotta be a dog to live

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Speaker 1: that one, because we got to start from the beginning

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Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, every time, you gotta have a different

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Speaker 1: kind of muscle. Yeah, to have fifteen twenty of just

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Speaker 1: grind out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's just something that you want. My dad always

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Speaker 4: told me what you had that your brother.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have was tenacity.

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Speaker 4: He got it and and I took that in it

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Speaker 4: because you know, as an artist, you want to feel respected.

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Speaker 4: And I felt like the ones getting respect were the

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Speaker 4: ones that were just everything they touched turn go or

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Speaker 4: they just was getting it off the top, and I

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Speaker 4: was putting unwanted pressure on myself. Once I slowed down though,

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Speaker 4: and got to really like understand, all right, I could

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Speaker 4: take my time with this, and if they want to

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Speaker 4: allow me to take my time, then it ain't for me.

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Speaker 4: But I got to do my process. So when you say,

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Speaker 4: like work at it, I think my whole. If you

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Speaker 4: could sum up my life as a whole, it would

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Speaker 4: just be one word process. I'm always in process.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's go to the beginning's process, Yes, sir, let's

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Speaker 1: go to the beginning. When I E, I've lived out

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Speaker 1: that way. I got some friends out there.

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Speaker 4: Out there. He is it fifteen I E? Or two fifteen?

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Speaker 2: I E? Question, I'm two fifteen? Is deep?

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Speaker 1: I E? Yeah, uh, that's a good one.

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Speaker 4: You you probably more like fifteen if you was in

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Speaker 4: Rancho Ontario.

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Speaker 2: I was Rancho, Yeah, I was. I was Corona.

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Speaker 4: There was the niggas that moved on up, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't up. I was moving down. I had to

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Speaker 1: get out of l A because the money was funny.

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Speaker 1: Oh ye, so you know they had this nice two

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Speaker 1: bedroom in Rancho Cucamonga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for a steal. You're still.

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Speaker 4: On the two fifteen.

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Speaker 2: He was on the team. What's the part out there

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Speaker 2: in the name name sam burn bernd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you got Sarardino, then you got Rialto,

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Speaker 4: then you got Fontana, then you got uh, Rancho got Ontario.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what sam Berni.

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Speaker 5: You can't say sam Bernid, Boden, sam Berdena and Burdeno.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, from out there, we called it, we call

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Speaker 1: it the din.

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Speaker 2: So one of my guys heardest he was my production

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Speaker 2: manager and all of that. For years.

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Speaker 1: That's where him and his family lived. So I would

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Speaker 1: always go out there to hang out with him and

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Speaker 1: his family what have you. And I thought it was

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Speaker 1: idea when I just wasn't working out for me, I

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Speaker 1: was like, man, I got to go somewhere where I

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Speaker 1: can in the live cool and still get back if

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Speaker 1: I need to. That's why I went to Rancho and

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Speaker 1: went to Croma.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah. I like that. I was out there living it.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was. It was the best buy. No,

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Speaker 2: it was a circus city out there. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was the king of Circus City. I was always

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Speaker 1: buying something out of Circus City. King king of Circus City.

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Speaker 1: And then there was a red Lobster. I was the

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Speaker 1: king of that red lobster. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That was always those two places.

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Speaker 1: And those two places A Biscus, Yeah, they knew where

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Speaker 1: you was and everything, and and uh Ontario Mills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you gotta get to get there. You

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Speaker 2: gotta get your clothes.

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Speaker 1: At a discount when the money you know, let you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you can still look like last seasons.

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Speaker 2: But you know, so you you born and raised there.

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Speaker 4: I'm born in Sanmardino, really raised in Rialto. I lived

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Speaker 4: in Salmordino for like four or five years of my

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Speaker 4: was taking care of three boys and a girl on

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Speaker 4: the weekends in Samarandino. My dad actually built the projects

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Speaker 4: we was born in. What he built the projects we

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Speaker 4: was born in.

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Speaker 2: We was in construction.

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Speaker 4: No, it just was he needed a job, and so

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Speaker 4: he worked on the projects we was born. Like, I

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Speaker 4: came home to the first place I ever lived. He

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Speaker 4: worked in the hell building. He helped build them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but not by trade.

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Speaker 4: Out of survival.

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Speaker 1: Nigga, what y'all need these logs? Yeah, you need a hammeletage.

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Speaker 1: Come on, ain't it out?

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Speaker 4: My dad did whatever so these kids so yeah, So

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Speaker 4: we basically grew up in the projects. We didn't know

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Speaker 4: they was projects because they was townhomes.

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Speaker 1: None of us, none of us, See, I didn't stay

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Speaker 1: long enough to know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me everybody didn't have roaches.

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Speaker 4: That never woke up with a roach run across the okay.

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Speaker 2: Super super roach. They were just staying neat with you.

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Speaker 2: What you what you'll got?

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Speaker 4: Yah?

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: You get to a point you turn the lights on,

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Speaker 4: they don't even run. It's just lazy.

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Speaker 2: But look at you like this, what you need? Can

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Speaker 2: we help you.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got an agreement.

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Speaker 2: You're killing us.

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Speaker 4: And then you go up to the bathroom a certain hour.

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Speaker 4: They like, what you're doing in here? This is our time.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm talking about. Yeah, bro, I'm talking about I

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Speaker 4: lived in like project talking about Candy House.

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Speaker 2: M hmm.

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Speaker 4: We had the candy lady. Realized how dangerous that is.

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Speaker 5: Live there though you don't feel dangerous, it just feels

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Speaker 5: like your friends.

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Speaker 1: Really, But it's the thing. Can we say this, It

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Speaker 1: wasn't as dangerous. It was dangerous.

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Speaker 5: It was dangerous. You were just you were just part

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Speaker 5: of that environment at the time. It was dangerous.

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Speaker 4: So I grew up in there was a project called

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Speaker 4: the Little Zions right across the street, back and forth, shootouts.

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Speaker 4: It was all that.

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Speaker 1: The candy lady wasn't wasn't putting nothing crazy in your

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Speaker 2: Two days, for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Your gun makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 4: You was with the equalizer.

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Speaker 1: What was going on, right, Hey, paul Lewis come home

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Speaker 2: And is it? And we'd be sitting at the kids

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul Lewis home now, his white big Mamay. I know, I.

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Speaker 7: Know, I know.

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Speaker 2: My grandma was the only one.

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Speaker 1: Sit down somewhere, Pop, go sit down somewhere. You've been drinking,

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Speaker 1: But it's like you said, it's like the difference in respect.

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Speaker 1: But getting back to your to your to your story

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Speaker 2: People. And to think that.

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Speaker 2: Oh he was woman R and B music for you

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Speaker 2: know what. For sure, I think it was the gospel.

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Speaker 4: They didn't kick him out, no, because he was married.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, Yeah he got married. They got

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a classic black story. I

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Speaker 2: You're gonna marry my baby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but also too well, he was my mom's stepdad

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Speaker 4: But getting back to like my upbringing, yeah, projects all

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Speaker 4: a we moved to a three bedroom house that was

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Speaker 4: it was it was like a bedroom, right, Yeah, every

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Speaker 3: Just going from a bedroom to bedroom to bears.

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Speaker 4: Yes, literally going from bedroom in the bedroom.

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Speaker 1: But because when you think about it now, yes, it's

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Speaker 2: But when I was a kid, this was the biggest house.

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Speaker 2: But even people though about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're like d you was really a little

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Speaker 4: Motherfuckers.

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Speaker 2: Was niggas promising you bikes and ship? What lost in you? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: All the while trying to get that to your mama.

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Speaker 2: They were trying to get that mama, my daddy.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you're in real in this new space. Do

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Speaker 1: you do you at some point while you're while you're

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Speaker 4: Oh No, I knew it for me because I was

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Speaker 4: I do remember that I did a talent show with

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Speaker 4: and I was mad because I couldn't be Bobby Brown.

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Speaker 2: Well you should be.

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Speaker 4: Somebody else picked Bobby Man. Somebody else picked Bobby. And

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Speaker 4: on top of that, I had this suit that I hated.

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Speaker 4: I hated niggas that wore the suits I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to express myself in church. That's probably why

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Speaker 4: I hated it. I had this suit on it and

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Speaker 4: I didn't At this point, I didn't know which one

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Speaker 4: and they didn't give me the leads. And I think

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Speaker 4: that of all I knew was this other nigga named Brandon,

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Speaker 4: and he was my he was my boy. But he

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Speaker 4: him like man, why Yes, That's this is when I knew,

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Speaker 4: especially sing my prorogative, and I wanted to do that

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Speaker 4: lean that he'd be doing. And I had a gunby

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Speaker 4: just like Bobby. It was a kitchen cut, but it

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Wait, but and then that's the other thing. I think

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Speaker 5: That's just Bobby by himself. So actually you were in

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Speaker 5: new edition. No, I'm giving you the real now, because.

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Speaker 4: Right we was new audition. But I wanted to sing

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Speaker 4: my parrogative.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, y'all wasn't new edition.

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Speaker 1: If y'all as the telephone man, No, he wasn't my

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Speaker 1: paraety you know now.

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Speaker 4: And I told you, I don't remember much now that

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Speaker 4: I think about it. Now I think about it. We

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Speaker 4: were singing the Boys. You remember the Boys?

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Speaker 2: Do I remember the boys? R and B?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't the lead nigga. And that's what I talked

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Speaker 4: about and checked this out. Hakeem is Michah spelled backwards.

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Speaker 2: Man, what what what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: That's what I was, nigga.

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Speaker 2: This is all that was going through my moment. But

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Speaker 2: that's my name.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So it was that moment, that talent show that

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Speaker 4: I knew that I wanted to do music.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be R and B.

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Speaker 4: My mom took us to remember at the the carnival,

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Speaker 4: they used to have this place where you could do.

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Speaker 2: Your own music video. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so my mom and my stepdad, who was

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Speaker 4: Y'all probably know Dave Forman, guitar player. He was my stepdad.

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Speaker 4: He was married to my mom. Yeah, it's gonna get

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not kidding. Dave Forman was my stepdadges I've

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Speaker 4: shared with Dave Forman, everybody shared with Dave Foreman. And

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Speaker 4: to bring it all around full circle, day form A

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Speaker 4: co produce on the song with DJ Quick that I

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Speaker 4: old school session, doing it from scratch, and I'm in

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Speaker 4: my I'm my mind is blown that this has happened.

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Speaker 4: This was just a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, so I never knew that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So my mom was married to day for me. They

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Speaker 4: and that day we did Down my Heart and I

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Speaker 4: was the lead nigga because it was me.

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Speaker 2: It was it was me, and it was me and

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Speaker 3: Brothers because now it's his brothers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was me. And my two brothers and Dave

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Speaker 4: They were in the back playing playing as the band

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Speaker 4: It's Goofy, just having fun and they chopped the video

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Speaker 4: up and all that. My parents still got the vhs

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Speaker 4: to that, bro. But those were the days where I figured, like,

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Speaker 4: never able to see life any different when it comes

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Speaker 4: to like my love for women. I just always seen

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Speaker 4: it as seen women that I loved in this little

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Speaker 4: I feel R and B music is nothing but peel.

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Speaker 1: Now you're like, okay, I can. I can do that,

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Speaker 1: I can write that, I can produce that I can.

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Speaker 1: When does it become I can't?

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Speaker 2: That didn't come till like later when I got in

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Speaker 3: So this is probably what B two K days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually met Omari before I met my group members.

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Speaker 4: We like he like he said. We went to school together.

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Speaker 4: Omari then spend nights at the crib and we my

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Speaker 4: my other cousin David, who live with us. Two we

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Speaker 4: all went to Hamilton. I remember days where the car

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Speaker 4: I remember Omari seeing him pop locking in his sleep,

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Speaker 4: like when people say that he does that, the nigga

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Speaker 4: used to pop lock in the.

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Speaker 2: Champagne.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, when niggas say that he walks around

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Speaker 4: dancing all day pop locking in his sleep, dog, did.

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Speaker 1: You ever try to wake him up? Say hey man,

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Speaker 1: you trip, You're gonna fall off the pa. You at

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Speaker 1: some point say how can I really be of value?

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Speaker 1: How can I be of value to this business and

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Speaker 1: then ultimately to myself? And when do you make that switch?

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Speaker 1: Because then you now you're not just an artist anymore.

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Speaker 1: Now you're a curator of artists and what they're trying

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Speaker 1: to do and the stories that they're trying to tell,

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Speaker 1: and the career that they're trying to have. When do

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Speaker 1: that space?

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Speaker 4: When I stopped listening to niggas, tell me just focus

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Speaker 4: on being an artist. When I knew all along that

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00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: I could write these songs, and I could write better

444
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: songs than niggas was doing for us and to the group, stuff,

445
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: just it just wasn't popping. And I saw like that

446
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: was around the time neo and dream like writers was

447
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 4: turned into full on artists, you know what I mean.

448
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 4: And so I was like, man, let me try my

449
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: hand at this route. So I started getting in and

450
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: just you know, writing stuff. Some of my first songs

451
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: were for Jeanne back when she was like trying to

452
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 4: figure her thing out. Me and her, we was just

453
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: going and just be writing. And that was like school

454
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: for me, you know. And then I started getting I

455
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: started hearing other people's stuff. I started hearing other other

456
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: people get off, you know, people like find.

457
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: Le Roy who else Andre married?

458
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they was having runs and I remember, so

459
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 4: I had to get a job and I started working

460
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 4: as a car salesman at.

461
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: No.

462
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: It's it's funny to me because I have a vivid

463
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: picture in my mind of me being a car salesman, yes,

464
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 4: and going to this going to this car lot every day,

465
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: knowing good and god damn well, I'm not supposed to

466
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 4: be here. But I'm like, you know what, I gotta do,

467
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: what I gotta do. And we in Singi Valley and

468
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: you know how hot I see me validated. As soon

469
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: as somebody get on that lot, you got to get up,

470
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: go get themselves. I did decent at it. Yeah, but

471
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: the thing that was killing me was I was I

472
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 4: was working deals and hearing the Homies music being played

473
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: over the you know those songs that I knew the

474
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: Homies wrote, and I'm like, I'm talking, I'm talking about tears.

475
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: I would go to the bathroom and cry because I

476
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 4: felt like I blew my shot.

477
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm here?

478
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: How did I get here?

479
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: You know?

480
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 4: Because that it's that competitive thing in me. It's like, nah,

481
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: I know I'm one in the one. I know I

482
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: gotta get that. I know I know what I can do.

483
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: So I ended up I ended up getting fired from

484
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: that job. I got fired from every job that I

485
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: was part of. But why do you think that is, Brother,

486
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: It's not. It's not a destination. It's not a destination.

487
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: It's just a pitch. You have to get fired, though,

488
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: I do because God is like, You're not gonna leave you.

489
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: Hear me.

490
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: I've never had a job, so I'm like, I'm over

491
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: talking about how to keep.

492
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

493
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to.

494
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: Do to get on. You know, I'll get it. So

495
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: I end up. You look like a nigga that got fired.

496
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: Why it's like me, Bro, you got a one track mine.

497
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm to be with you.

498
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: I'm actually picking you up right now, broth of you.

499
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: You definitely would have done from.

500
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: My uncle company.

501
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: No, definitely, Bro. I got fired from that job and

502
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: I was like, no, this is my time to really

503
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: turn up. So God I blessed me with another job

504
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: that was flexible. I was mentoring kids and working in

505
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 4: group homes and I was doing it on weekends. I

506
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: would that job was so flexible it allowed me to

507
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: still move how I wanted to move and be in

508
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: the studio and do those things until I got fired

509
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: from that and then that was like the last job

510
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 4: I ever had. And God has blessed me and sustained

511
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 4: me to be able to move through this business and

512
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: take some bumps and losses, but like, for real, like.

513
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: Still be here.

514
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: Give me the moment you're fired. You need a moment, right,

515
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: You needed a finding moment that says one of two things.

516
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: One I can do this and two.

517
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Here is the either success or revenue to prove it.

518
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: What moment is that.

519
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: When I got my first placement, my first actual that

520
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: moment was for me. It won't stop the record with

521
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: seven mm hmm.

522
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: What's that your first record? No, it wasn't my first record,

523
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: but it was.

524
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: It was. It was my first record before it was

525
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 4: my first record that charted, you know what I mean.

526
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: If you want to talk about when I thought I

527
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: was going to arrive, it was the Drake song I did.

528
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: I did a song called July, which was I originally

529
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: did it with Ja and he heard the song because

530
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: my boy Jazz, who was rocking with us, he took

531
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: it over to Drakers like, man, I'm telling you got

532
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: to get on this. He was trying to get him

533
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: as a feature. Drake was like, no, I want this song.

534
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: He yeah, you yeah.

535
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: So he ended up doing doing verses on it, singing

536
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: my Jene was on the hook. I ended up seeing

537
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: him at Chris. Remember Chris and Polo used to have

538
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: the skate parties.

539
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was going up.

540
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: I would ended up seeing him at the skate party

541
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: and he stopped me. He was like, yo, congratulations, and

542
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: I'm like what's good. He like, Yo, We're gonna get

543
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: Beyonce on July and we're gonna put it out. And

544
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, word, all right, cool, just make sure let's

545
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: do the business like I try to play him cool,

546
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: but in my heart, I was like this, this is

547
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: this is my moment, this is my moment. So and

548
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: at that time, me and Drake was uh like, remember

549
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: it wasn't FaceTime. It was like, uh, I chat. We

550
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: was I chatting ideas back and forth, and on BBM

551
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: he was on BBM Heavy. So like three months go by,

552
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: I get it, I get to get in touch with

553
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: g and hip hop. They're like, yeah, we're using the record,

554
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: We're doing this. Then one day the record just leaks

555
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: and it's getting played on Hot ninety seven and all

556
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: these radio stations in it, and I'm like, huh, this

557
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: was supposed to be the Beyonce. So I hated him

558
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, bro, what happened? How did the

559
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: worker get leaked? And all you had for me was

560
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: and know it's shitty. And then a few months later

561
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: he comes out with was the album Hard At the

562
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: Crazy album, Thank Me Later, and there's a song called

563
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: Fireworks on there. I'm not insinuating anything, but I'm just

564
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: like that, I'm just being transparent with you. I was

565
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: fucked up by that because I felt like, you know

566
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I and I and I would

567
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 4: tell everybody about this song that I got coming, and

568
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah for show for

569
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: Shure and shout out my boy Diesel. He paid for

570
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: the session for that song. Yeah, and my boy, my

571
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: boy Sticks, my boy Sticks recorded that song, you know stick.

572
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you do one more, y'all know about niggas.

573
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: That's our friends.

574
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: This is my friend in my real life industry, that's

575
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: my friend.

576
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: Right, Stop it, bro, This.

577
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: Is the one place where assumptions are allowed. Okay, assumptions

578
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: are allowed here, all right, cool, cool, cool, I got you.

579
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: It won't happen again.

580
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: Boss. So the record leagues and I still get paid

581
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: royalties from that song.

582
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: It ain't like but that's how big.

583
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's crazy. We never did no splits, no

584
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: nothing for it. But yeah, after him doing that, it

585
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: really put a real bitter taste in my mouth for

586
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: the the music music industry because I felt like that

587
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: was some industry ship, you know.

588
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: But it could have been something that was out of

589
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: his control.

590
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 4: I know, right, you know, and and and and now,

591
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: looking in hindsight, I consider all things right, But back then,

592
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: you just yeah, because that could have changed my life. Yeah,

593
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: that that could have been life changing for me, because

594
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many people I know when

595
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: they find out I did that song or they're like,

596
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: that's one of my favorite songs. I don't have many

597
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: songs as many songs as a lot of people out here,

598
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: but the songs that I do have, so many people

599
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: tell me that that is one of their favorite songs.

600
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: And I'll take that any day.

601
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: Bro.

602
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying, from from that song, even though

603
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: it didn't turn out the way you hoped it would,

604
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the seven record is the one that actually gave you

605
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: everything that you needed to get from it.

606
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 4: Absolutely is absolutely ship absolutely.

607
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: And it came out twice because.

608
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

609
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: So that that that record dropped in, I'm just like,

610
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: you produce that. So these guys that John Baptiste had,

611
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: they were like some French dudes. I forget their name now,

612
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: and that's terrible. They were No, they were signed to Diplo,

613
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: So Diplo's name is on the credit. But yeah, that

614
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: to me, that just was such a you know how

615
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: you do certain records and you like, I'm just doing

616
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: this for them. I'm not attached to this record like that.

617
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: It's just for them. I do this in my sleep.

618
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: That record was one that was like spiritual because I

619
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: can tell you I went in that booth and the

620
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: first things I did was the song I'm talking about

621
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: from and then it Won't Dumb. I scattered all that

622
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: on the first time, and that's hot. That's when I

623
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: know God is in the room. And we was like, nah,

624
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: we're writing too that. You know how you go somebody

625
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: else go in and do melodies. There was like nope,

626
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: we got it, got it. And so me and Sef

627
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: went in on that record.

628
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 6: Man.

629
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 4: And what's crazy is that session. Ty Ty Dollard sign

630
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: called me to come to that session because he wasn't

631
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: gonna be able to make it. Oh, so I kind

632
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: of like filled in for Ti dollars, you know what

633
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: I mean, and and you delivered and I delivered. And

634
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 4: that ended up being like, uh, we worked like a week.

635
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: We did a couple of different records, but that was

636
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: my first time really locking in with Sef. I had

637
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: knew her before that, but never really locked in with

638
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: her like that. And that started our relationship where that's

639
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 4: like my musical wifey, Like every time we.

640
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Go in it's crazy. So when you get this record

641
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: and it's finally popping. You know, we know the phone

642
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: calls to come and the meetings that come. Mhm, you know,

643
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: would you would you like to do a copub?

644
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: You like to?

645
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: How can we help because at this point you haven't

646
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: done a deal yet. No, I did.

647
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: I had already had a deal by then. I did.

648
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: I didn't I deal with you and PG okay, yeah,

649
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 4: twenty eleven.

650
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 5: And then it shout Outlaneer, it won't stop, don't come

651
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 5: out to win.

652
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: That was like two thousand and thirteen.

653
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: Shot, does this song get you out of your deal? No?

654
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 4: Because I was in an antiquated deal which was based

655
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: on you know, the fine print. It's gotta be you

656
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: got a three song commendment, but it got to be

657
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: on an album, a domestic album at that and it

658
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: can't be an EP. And this was around the time

659
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: where all niggas was doing was EPs and mixtapes and.

660
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

661
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: So I had to like, yeah, I got that deal amended,

662
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: but around that time, it was just an antiquated deal.

663
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: But I honestly, man, I came to you though, yeah,

664
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: and I didn't. I didn't even worry about that stuff.

665
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: Man.

666
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: I really just wanted to like cement my name and

667
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: my legacy, you know what I mean. And so I

668
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 4: was working with everybody. Man, I went in with Chris.

669
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: This was like years before it won't stop. When when

670
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: Chris had that thing with Rihanna, we that was bad.

671
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: Well Chris had that thing with Rihanna. He kind of

672
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: was just you know, locked himself in the studio and

673
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: I was like one of the dudes that was in

674
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: the studio winning working on working on that mixtape.

675
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: We did a song called talk that Ship.

676
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: I did a song called go Away, which was on

677
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: the the deluxe album of Graffiti. And shout out to

678
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: Chris Man because I learned a lot about writing working

679
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: with him too. I learned learned a lot about like,

680
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 4: you know, staying locked in and and focusing.

681
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: And reed in once he's in the booth and it's

682
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: time to work.

683
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you.

684
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: Work and until the song is finished, were in here, yeah,

685
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: like and it listen, you better have your lyrics and

686
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: your melodies died up, yeah, and ready to go yeah,

687
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: because it's gonna go by fast, fast.

688
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's gonna go fast.

689
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: That's where I really first learned that that style of writing.

690
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: On second guess. Yeah, yeah, you're.

691
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: Going in there scatting melodies and then writing to the

692
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: melodies and stuff. Before that, I hadn't really like wrote

693
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: like that, but that that actually, like was a great tool.

694
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: Because I am a melody guy. It takes me a

695
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 4: long time to come up with certain lyrics because sometimes

696
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: I overthink.

697
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes I just want everything to.

698
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: Read out poetically and all that. But like, nah, I

699
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: had to I had to learn that too.

700
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's a different type of.

701
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: He he writes more in a rapper space for R

702
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: and B than he does like in an R and B.

703
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Space especially now.

704
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's not like once you, I guess, once

705
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: you figure out you're really good at something.

706
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: Like overthink, it's just it's not an option.

707
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not an option.

708
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: The lyrics and these melodies are good, and we don't

709
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: even I don't even to think. Like last time I

710
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: wrote with him, we didn't even go through melodies. He's

711
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: in the booth and he would sing something but ooh

712
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: that's fire, say this word or oh make that note

713
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: this Yeah, yeah, keep going and that's it.

714
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: Oh. Niggas is professed. Niggas have mastered it.

715
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: That's it.

716
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: And the thing is, I feel like there's a there's

717
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: a difference between writing and communicating, you know what I mean,

718
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: because when you communicating his audience, he knows how to

719
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: communicate to his audience, you know, and for better or worse,

720
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: man like some people get mad and he puts thirty

721
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: six songs on an album and all of that, but.

722
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: He's just empty in the clip. I'm gonna tell you

723
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: all in communicating.

724
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: It's not even just that he's one of the rare

725
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: artists who learned the business early, who understood where the

726
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: business was going early and understood that not only am

727
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: I going to play the music game, or good music

728
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: game for that matter, I'm going to play the numbers game.

729
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: Play the numbers game because by the time you listen

730
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: to all of these songs, that will count for two sales.

731
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: But he but not not to like harp on Chris Brown.

732
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: But it does go to speak to artistry, right because

733
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: I like to believe that you're either an artist or

734
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: an entertainer, and he's one of the ones that have

735
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 4: learned how to straddle that line between being an artist

736
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: and entertainer and either one. Nobody's wrong in what you choose.

737
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: Just understand what comes with either one. You know, so

738
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: he's mastered that.

739
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: Give me another moment where you're where you where you

740
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: pound on your chest and you say I'm him.

741
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's been it's been a great journey.

742
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: Man. I like to say, I mean supposed to be,

743
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: come on, scared of it, supposed to be because you know,

744
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 4: and I gotta be Bho by Marion featuring Chris Brown

745
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: and yeah, that was my first top ten record, And

746
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: it's funny that it would be with Omar and I know,

747
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he thinks the same way. Like we've

748
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: been knowing each other more than we haven't known each other,

749
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: you know. But man, that line, that infamous line, Yes,

750
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: I've learned to be proud of it.

751
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: Why you felt away for a minute?

752
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: I felt away because I'm an artist, right And I'm like, man,

753
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: that line is so remedial and so dumb. It's so ratchet,

754
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: you know, like that whenever people would introduce me, they'd

755
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: be like, you.

756
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: Know that long eat the booty like groceries.

757
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wrote that instead of like you know that song,

758
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: this song or that song or that song. It's to

759
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: eat the booty like groceries that I would get introduced

760
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: that it.

761
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: Me to ghetto bro, a nigga, you want to be

762
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: known for something.

763
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, but then when people go, oh, so you

764
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: be eating booty, then it becomes like it's.

765
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: It's too much. No, people take it.

766
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: Far and so I'm like, for a long time it

767
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 4: bothered me, but I've learned to accept it. I've learned

768
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: to embrace it because it did like impact culture, you

769
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

770
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: And that's and that's not no, that too much into

771
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: your business, but it won't stop. We got it fire,

772
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: super crazy supposed to be those checks get.

773
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: A little different. Oh man, you know, hmm, you have

774
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 4: to think about that, nah, because it's not what you think.

775
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: Bro.

776
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: We still haven't settled on that record. What do you mean, bro,

777
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: we still haven't signed off on that record. This?

778
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: This is this.

779
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: There can be a whole nother podcast on this song alone,

780
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: just as far as the the fuckery around it.

781
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: You know.

782
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: So the writers couldn't agree.

783
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: Well because it's so many entities involved, and I'm gonna

784
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: put it in short. What happened was we did the

785
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: record with oh Me and Sam wrote the main the

786
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 4: first verse and the hook. Me and Sam hook shot

787
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 4: on my brother Sam Hood wrote the first verse in

788
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: the hook. Omari needed a feature on it, and I'm

789
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 4: keeping it real with y'all, I don't care. Amary needed

790
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: a feature on it. So they were like, who should

791
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: we get on the record. Chris was doing this thing

792
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: at that time. I think he had these hose Ain'

793
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: lawyer or something like that out yeah, and so it

794
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: was popping. So he was like, man, I'm gonna take

795
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: it to Chris. He takes it across the across town

796
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: to Chris. Unbeknownst to us though, like we weren't there

797
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: at the session. So they do whatever they do on

798
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: the record. They write the second verse and they write

799
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: that bridge Park all right, cool. Then Janey wants uh.

800
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: Then he's like it's the uh. Atlantic is like it's

801
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 4: still not enough. We need another artist on it. So

802
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: they go, Janey, let's get Jane. Jane wants me to

803
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 4: write something for her along the lines of eating booty

804
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: because she said the poster reminded her of Kevin Gates

805
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: when he used to say.

806
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: I hate the booty like a poster. So that's what that's.

807
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: So that's where that line came from. It and how

808
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: me and Janey work is sometimes we go in the studio,

809
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: but sometimes she would be like, she'll be like, can

810
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 4: you can you write something for me because she just

811
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: don't feel like it or you know, and I know her.

812
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, So I did that verse in my living

813
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: room and I was just was like, it just was

814
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: so simple as what rhymes would suposed to be. Mm

815
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: hm oh groceries put that down and then I was like, oh,

816
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: this ship actually goes. And they loved it. Everybody loved it.

817
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: She recorded it, and that's how you have It's no

818
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: longer tossed as saladies eating grocers. So I did what

819
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: I was supposed to do. So we have all of

820
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: these entities involved. On top of that, we have the

821
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: producers Mustard and Mike Free, who are in an entanglement

822
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 4: with their deal and kind of like, you know, trying

823
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: to figure some things out. Then you got Shaka Demis,

824
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: who isn't the song is an interpolation of Then we

825
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: got that. So all these entities involved. Oh and not

826
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: to mention, we tried to they tried to. Somebody tried

827
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: to sue us. Someone it was They said it sounded

828
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: like a song, but the song was a Chris Brown song. Okay,

829
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: so he and that's it. He can't suit himself. He's

830
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 4: on the record, So that's that got thrown out. So

831
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 4: at this at this point, we're at I think we're

832
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: at like one hundred and twenty five percent, and we

833
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: gotta get down for those that don't know about publishing,

834
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 4: we gotta get down to one hundred.

835
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: So just you know how R and B money does business.

836
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: The sample would take their piece and then everybody else

837
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: would split it evenly. Of course, there are some who

838
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: might have may have done more work than others. But

839
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: once the sample comes in and starts chipping away, the

840
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: first thing is people are gonna argue, well, I ain't

841
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the sample, yep, right, yep,

842
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: But none of it is what it is with it

843
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: without it. So whether whether you were part of introducing

844
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: that nuance or not, it's a major part of the

845
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: success of the song. When I heard that, I said,

846
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: oh shit, no, they didn't immediately right, So it's so

847
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: much there's so much success on the song that there's

848
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: enough success to go around for everyone.

849
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: Everybody.

850
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: Let the interpolation of the sample have their piece and

851
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: everybody split it even and we get that money that's

852
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: just sitting there collecting interest for everyone else to use.

853
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: Because that's the other part.

854
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: People aren't paying attention to that interested.

855
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's I learned about something called a black box,

856
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: and your money goes into a black box, which in

857
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: turn is bonuses at the end of the year. Ye,

858
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: so you mean to tell me.

859
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: Off of your money, your money. Yes, this business is

860
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 2: wicked dog well that it is designed to be right,

861
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: but it don't have to.

862
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: But it don't have to be because the creatives have

863
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: to do business. And that's the part that gets tricky

864
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: with creatives. We because I am a creative, we get

865
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: in our feelings instead of saying, you know what, we

866
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: gotta handle our business though, And yes, this could be a.

867
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: Tricky conversation, or you know what, even I'll be the

868
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: nigga that will take less. You're reading my mind. So

869
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: here's the thing.

870
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: Here's this is the problem with going here, there, and

871
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: everywhere to get your song done. We're not all in

872
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: a room at the same time.

873
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: Of course.

874
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: So now lawyers and managers and you know, yeah, they're

875
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: negotiating it exactly, exactly exactly, so everybody has an argument.

876
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: They can make right. I could say without the line

877
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: I wrote, this song wouldn't have been what it what

878
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 4: it is because he can't perform this song without doing

879
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 4: that first.

880
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: It's it's it becomes, it becomes gnull and void, exactly

881
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: when nobody's getting paid.

882
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: Let's go.

883
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: You already know I'm a phone call away, bro, text, but.

884
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: He needs your best, is what he's saying. You said,

885
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: you said, you said, you said, you say.

886
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: Every time I came in.

887
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: You just delivered you show out. I just heard what

888
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: you just said. Though. Well listen, brother, that's what happened.

889
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: He was listening.

890
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: Listen, brother, I want the best for you. I'll come

891
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: in here and show out.

892
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 7: Man.

893
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: Let's do it, bro, of course you will.

894
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

895
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: You got from over there.

896
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: Mom.

897
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that intro. Very superman ish. That's gonna

898
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: be this song we're gonna write. We're gonna write this

899
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: song called Superman.

900
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: You should have been had one of them? Should have

901
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: been had one of those.

902
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: The song is called should have been had a Superman.

903
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: Huh, you've been playing with that my song you should

904
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: have been?

905
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: Super mind? Okay, I hear you a Superman.

906
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 2: Maca made me say your name like I can't even

907
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: People want to know your.

908
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: Fun, that's what they want to know.

909
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: Your top fight, Yeah, top fun, your top. Fry's saying.

910
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 7: Already song.

911
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: We got to know.

912
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 4: We thought you know, we're on this shoe.

913
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: We want to know.

914
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yow wow where.

915
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: You I tried to tell you that first of all,

916
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 4: you are going places? Brother, what you just did?

917
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: Right here?

918
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 4: I can see the whole thing on Venice Beach, right,

919
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 4: I can see take take his Venus beach.

920
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: Bro.

921
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: Bro, you was in it with no sustain you was

922
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: in it.

923
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: Work this man this keyboard over there, man, Yeah yeah,

924
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Top five my top five R and B

925
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: singers R and B.

926
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: Okay, in no particular order. I'm gonna say, uh Brandy,

927
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, yeah, I gotta go. These are gospel singers,

928
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: but uh Mitchel Jones, uh Fred Hammon, the.

929
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: Great talk to talk said he pulling up to the pack.

930
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: That's what he said, talk to him yesterday.

931
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and these are these are surely people that impacted

932
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 4: my life.

933
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Me too?

934
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all.

935
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: Them selfish on the personally. Don't think we know about it.

936
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: You don't think we know nobody nobody only affected him.

937
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't know where you're going. You don't know Jones.

938
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: Uh, okay, number four, I will say Chris Martin, he's

939
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: not he's not.

940
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: R by your world, your world.

941
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: Chris Martin is because he influences your arms. Yes, yes, yes, phenomenal,

942
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 4: phenomenal voice. And uh, the last one I'm gonna have

943
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: to do. Uh, I'm gonna have to say, uh, Charlie Wilson.

944
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 4: And because the man is one hundred seventy stations old,

945
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 4: still sound the exact same, Get it like, there's no

946
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: there's no there's no fallout, there's no decline.

947
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Uncle Charlie. Uncle Charlie is incredible. Yes, he's incredible. Charlie

948
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: would kick your ass. Yes, the call yourself being young

949
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: and trying to perform after Charlie.

950
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: Was you you better not? Yeah?

951
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro Arlie, I like that.

952
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: Top five Army songs.

953
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: This might be a little more difficult, all right, I'm

954
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: gonna say the beautiful ones.

955
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: Prince you're starting off. Yeah, yeah, every time they heard you,

956
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: every time, I'm gonna say, I can't help it.

957
00:53:59,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: Michael Jack.

958
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Merry Go Round music.

959
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: So child Wow.

960
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's a great, okay.

961
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: Just to keep you satisfied. Marvin Gaye, Okay, no argument here,

962
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: and then number five I would have to say, uh,

963
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go sick free Frank Ocean than give him

964
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 4: some Frank.

965
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. These are songs that that just like really

966
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: tough hit in a different way. I get it, I

967
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: get it.

968
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: Where where you going, jamp Where are you going?

969
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 4: Yap?

970
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: I ain't saying no nicks. Hey, ain't saying no names.

971
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: Saying no.

972
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: Names was what you did.

973
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 7: Don't say shout in the Champagne.

974
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: Champagne got you in there. It's only be money glasses.

975
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: Get yourself.

976
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: Some more of that Jesus ship. Nigga, my god, hey,

977
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: no you you went to another level right there, bro.

978
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: And it was effortlessly the church man, that's the no

979
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: sustain might I have my foot ain't nothing, they don't

980
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: nothing but clouds. Okay, So you know where we're at.

981
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: Listen, you've watched this show, You've known us for a

982
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: long time. You know what this ship is. Man. I

983
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: ain't saying no names. Well, you tell us a story

984
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: funny or fucked up?

985
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: Are funny and fucked up?

986
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: And since you are partnering something, you ain't told a sleep,

987
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 5: poor nigga.

988
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: I know about a lot of wild shit.

989
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 4: Boy, Okay, yeah, I've had. I got a lot of

990
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 4: those stories, a lot.

991
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 3: I know you a lot.

992
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: So round front, they call me R and B cuh

993
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 4: r and B cuh because they call me R and

994
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: B cut because I never turned down a fade and

995
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 4: we know this too, we'll sing and never turned down

996
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: to fade. So I called a fade with a guy

997
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: who's they out of here he he uh. I would

998
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 4: say he manages one of the biggest artists in the world,

999
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: like partners with one of the biggest artists in the

1000
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 4: world now. But when we was kids were younger, me

1001
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: and Mike.

1002
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: Have never fought.

1003
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 4: Bro. Listen, everybody. You know they don't want no problems

1004
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 4: with all the time. Don't let that don't let that

1005
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: hair fool you. Sorry, don't let that hairline hair.

1006
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: I apologize you.

1007
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: This man is from but Phil absolutely a finish. So

1008
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: you call caught the fade. But I want to say

1009
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: it was over a woman, but it wasn't. And it's

1010
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: always like that, right she's it sparks and then after

1011
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: that it becomes testosterone and aggression and ego. So I

1012
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: was on tour, on screen tour. This was like five

1013
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: or six. I was doing my thing and I had

1014
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 4: a girlfriend back at home and apparently she was doing

1015
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: her thing. So when I got off to her and

1016
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: you know, we back together, when in my crib, I'm

1017
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: seeing her phone blow up. And this is back when

1018
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 4: we had what's the side cakes? So aim was on

1019
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 4: the sidekicks. So I see, you know, me just being

1020
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, something ain't right. So let's just look over.

1021
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: I have been a glance over and I see her

1022
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: aiming with a nigga I know.

1023
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: And so right there while you're there, she's she's going

1024
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: back and forth with him.

1025
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: Well, she had got up to go to the bathroom

1026
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: or something. And then I did something that I ain't

1027
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: never did before that, but I was like, really, I

1028
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 4: felt it in my spirit. I was like, man, something

1029
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 4: going wrong because I was doing wrong.

1030
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: So that's what Michael Jackie said, You're doing wrong. Yeah.

1031
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: So I get into her phone and I see it's

1032
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 4: this nigga, you know, texting her back and forth inappropriate shit.

1033
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: So I'm like a young twenty one twenty two somewhere

1034
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: around there. So I'm like, I'll stick my chest out.

1035
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: I hit him back, like, hey, honey, it starts there. Yes,

1036
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: hey honey, don't hit this phone no more.

1037
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: And you know who this is? Okay, all right?

1038
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: So that nigga responds back immediately like who the fuck

1039
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 4: you talking to? I know you you r and B

1040
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: nigga stop.

1041
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: Playing with me.

1042
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: And I'm like what yeah, yeah yeah, And I'm like,

1043
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: so I'm going back and forth. Whenn will we on

1044
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: on her phone? Mind you, she's she sees me on

1045
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: her phone. So me and her had a very volatile

1046
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 4: relationship that we were young. So she starts to try

1047
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: to get physical with me. I throw her phone out

1048
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: the house. She somehow gets my phone, grabs her phone,

1049
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: gets in the car, and I'm like, give me my

1050
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 4: fucking phone. I get on the hood of her car,

1051
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: the hood. I get on the hood of her car,

1052
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: all right, and you know the line between the windshield

1053
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: and the actual hood I'm holding on.

1054
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: She drives off like that meme of that it's like

1055
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: a it's like a girl that has that meme right

1056
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: hanging on the car.

1057
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's Michael, because she got she got my phone,

1058
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: and I don't want her to see all the debauchery

1059
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: going on in your You just want to Yes, I

1060
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 4: had the upper hand.

1061
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: You out of pocket, but go ahead, pimp.

1062
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: So I'm holding on. She driving like, no, no joke,

1063
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 4: like thirty miles per hour with me on the hood.

1064
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: Some ship that could hurt you, No, some ship that

1065
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 4: could really hurt me. So I don't even know how.

1066
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: I don't remember how I got out of that, but

1067
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: I'm still mad at this nigga. So I switched to

1068
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 4: my phone because I have his number.

1069
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: So I go to continue this.

1070
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 4: I go to I go to this bar where.

1071
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: All the hom was linking up.

1072
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 4: It was a popular bar where they would have our

1073
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 4: R and B live performances.

1074
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: Is your R and B nigga?

1075
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: Yes, had to go to the R and B B

1076
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: R right.

1077
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: So I'm there, I'm there, I'm drinking, and something just

1078
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,479
Speaker 4: tells me, a nigga, if you're a real nigga, you'll

1079
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 4: pull up to the tiple bar right now. He was like, bet,

1080
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: I didn't think he was going to pull up. The

1081
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: nigga pulled up with all blood, but I knew I

1082
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: knew half of them, you know what I mean? So

1083
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 4: it was all good. I wasn't finna get packed out.

1084
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: Nas know each other. You know each other somehow.

1085
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 4: So he actually pulled up and I'm in a bar

1086
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 4: and this is I've been drinking. The only one that's

1087
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 4: in there with me is my cousin David Tavaris was there.

1088
01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: You know you can't say no names, righty folks.

1089
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 4: He text me like, I'm outside, what's happening? So I

1090
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 4: put my drink down and I tell the homies, all right,

1091
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: this time.

1092
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 3: It started a gang war. It's pretty much where we

1093
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: get to.

1094
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 4: Well, go ahead, So I'll get outside and it's it's

1095
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 4: the weirdest ship man, because I like, I know all

1096
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: this homies. I'm dapping up homies and were walking. This

1097
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: is like a very uh structured fade. This is an

1098
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: organized This is an organized.

1099
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: Anything I'll say about l a y'all organized for real?

1100
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: Big little tiny, Yes, baby baby tiny.

1101
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 4: It's rampant. Yes, it's a hierarchy.

1102
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: Niggas is military.

1103
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1104
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1105
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 4: So so we go to the alley and we we

1106
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 4: just we start going at it and the first half

1107
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 4: of the fight I'm really.

1108
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: Giving it to And then.

1109
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 4: The alcohol kicked in and he called me with a

1110
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: two piece. He called me with a two piece, and

1111
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 4: I hadn't been working out like so I was like yeah,

1112
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: so so we get so it's like, you know how

1113
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 4: niggas tussling. You get on the ground and the niggas

1114
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 4: is just rolling on the ground and then they're like

1115
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 4: stop that stop, all stop, all up wrestling blood, stop

1116
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 4: at up wrestling blood. So they break niggas up and

1117
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: make niggas stand up again and fade, and at that

1118
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 4: point it just was niggas throwing haymakers. It was a

1119
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 4: very sloppy fight. It was not a good fight. It

1120
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 4: was not a good fight. Uh the artist that's huge now,

1121
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 4: I think he was. I think he was the one

1122
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 4: that was like he was filming the whole fight on

1123
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: the camp court. So after after the after the fade,

1124
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 4: it's like handshakes. I shook the dude hand, you know

1125
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: what I mean, shook the old Jean's hands and it

1126
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: was all good. Like two days later, I see me

1127
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 4: on my Space. Oh shit, I'm on my Space and

1128
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: this nigga has done an incredible job of editing this video.

1129
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: And you don't have the video to make your edit.

1130
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: No, you're getting chopped.

1131
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,959
Speaker 4: But but I didn't get beat up. It just looked

1132
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: like he it looked like he won. He won, right,

1133
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 4: you know, And I'm talking about this nigga made edits

1134
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: where he reversed it slow motion, broke captions. I'm like,

1135
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 4: this was like, oh seven, it wasn't no cap cut. Wow,

1136
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 4: he went crazy and it was on They put it

1137
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 4: on they page, the artist page all that. So I

1138
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: got everybody hitting me, niggas like cap, why you didn't

1139
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: call me for this shit. I'm like, it was, it

1140
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: just happened.

1141
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

1142
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 4: I didn't call nobody like that. I was with some

1143
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 4: niggas and it was like, well, at least you got

1144
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 4: down because you know, at that time, I hung around cribs.

1145
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

1146
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 4: But and they was all bloods and so they was

1147
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 4: extra man because it was all blood niggas. So, yeah,

1148
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 4: that happened, and I was like everybody in the city

1149
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 4: saw it, and I had to answer questions people hitting me, like.

1150
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: Why was y'all fighting?

1151
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 4: Why is y'all you know? The coldest part was I

1152
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 4: had a Jesus piece on when I was fighting.

1153
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: The Old Testament.

1154
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 4: My girlfriend was at the same bar that we were

1155
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 4: fighting at the girl fight over the girl.

1156
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeall.

1157
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 4: So look so there's an alley right, and there's two

1158
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: buildings here, and I'm walking from the fade. I got

1159
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 4: my necklace on, and she's she's she's walking with her friend,

1160
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 4: and she sees and she tries to tiptoe back like

1161
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 4: nobody could see her. I'm like, I already saw you.

1162
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 4: So she ends up taking me home. My Jesus piece,

1163
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 4: the Jesus was crying a bloody tear, and I got

1164
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: on my knees and said, Lord, forgive me.

1165
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: Did some blood from you?

1166
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: Some blood from me? But it literally it happened to

1167
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: get right. It looked like a perfect tear coming down

1168
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 4: from Jesus. That shook me to the core. I'm out

1169
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: here doing too much.

1170
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: I don't approve.

1171
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't approve God watching all throughout my life, things

1172
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 4: like that have happened. But yeah, that's my that's my

1173
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 4: I ain't saying no names. But what's crazy is after that,

1174
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 4: we became cool. I got that artist on some of

1175
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: my songs, like we built a relationship, like it was

1176
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 4: all good. And that's the beauty in this whole thing,

1177
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 4: is like when you do you know, when niggas was

1178
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 4: good hearted. They may have differences and turbulence and all

1179
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: of that. But at the end of the day, you

1180
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: know what kind of nigga I am, and I know

1181
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 4: what kind of nigga you are, And if it wasn't

1182
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: for this bullshit, we probably be cool. So nigga, let's

1183
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 4: put that shit aside and peace up. And that's what

1184
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: niggas did. It was honorable.

1185
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: I love that story. Yeah, I love that story. The fade, Yeah,

1186
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: I love that. Then my Space editor is hilarious.

1187
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: Great.

1188
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 4: I'm talking about in the Remember they put it on

1189
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 4: the header and then niggas is reposting it in the

1190
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 4: in the comments section. You know, the comment used to

1191
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: run down the side. Ah knocked that niggah blah, niggas

1192
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 4: is talking. My brother is online at war with niggas.

1193
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 4: Why do that like that? I'm looking at like, man,

1194
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 4: I don't want my get back. Nah, I can't do

1195
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 4: that already, sugar hands with more.

1196
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: Nigga should catch the fit or niggas should catch the fat.

1197
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: They never will, yeah, because niggas don't keep it to

1198
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: just hand. No, I mean, unfortunately, I'm just from a

1199
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: different time. Yeah, I respect that no matter. You see,

1200
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: we didn't ask who won who lost.

1201
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: We didn't.

1202
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: It don't matter. You got out there, you got down

1203
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 4: for sure.

1204
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: That's exciting. Roll around a little bit. Yeah.

1205
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: The only unexciting part is that it's over a woman.

1206
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: It's always over No, I've never thought over a woman

1207
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: in my entire.

1208
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: I haven't either, But I'm just trying to. There's a place,

1209
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: there's a place, many many wars.

1210
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 4: I'm glad.

1211
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: I'm glad you, but you are. I mean, I'm gonna

1212
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: just tell you I was.

1213
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 4: I was lost man while I was a wild.

1214
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: Boy, almost almost killed a nigga over a woman.

1215
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: But then I had to remember. I had to remember

1216
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: that she's in violation too. If she don't, if she

1217
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: don't make way for him, it don't happen.

1218
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: Well.

1219
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 4: See, the reason why I don't say it's over woman

1220
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 4: is because it was more so over ego, because I

1221
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 4: call myself checking him.

1222
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: Well, you were he told me what he was supposed

1223
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: to do. You know it's sober woman. Yeah, yeah, just

1224
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: accept we fall down, it is, but what but we

1225
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: get up? Yeah, it's just he fell down. What the Jesus,

1226
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: Peace of Jesus, peace, Jesus protected you after that piece

1227
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: should have been what I tell you what to Max,

1228
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: you up. Jesus. You look Jesus.

1229
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: You can't stop a nigga that I got a Jesus

1230
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: peace Jesus, that's what That's the one that saved us.

1231
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: He's come on, Michael, it was sad.

1232
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 4: Ball. Y'all know me, Bro, that's just a fraction. I

1233
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 4: got so many stories, Bro, I've lived.

1234
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 2: Listen. I respected I respect you from from the first

1235
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: day I met you. Bro.

1236
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: You when I say you solid and and if you

1237
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: need to get to it, you're gonna get to it

1238
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: all of that, bro, Like you're gonna figure it out,

1239
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: whether it be talent, whether it be anything like I

1240
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: just I just got real love.

1241
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: For you, bro, hey man. Absolutely, and that means a

1242
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: lot to me. Never changed.

1243
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: That means a lot.

1244
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: Ever you got you got, you got two brothers left,

1245
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: hey dog, you got two brothers left. We're with you, bro.

1246
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it, Bro, no more.

1247
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: No, he's catching phase a different way now though.

1248
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: Ye.

1249
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: So now he's mu tai. I get it, he's MUTI cut,

1250
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: I get.

1251
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: I get it.

1252
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 4: But just because you know it, yeah, don't mean you.

1253
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't carry that energy with me.

1254
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 4: It's the craziest thing because I actually learned in there

1255
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: how to relax more.

1256
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: You gotta understand this about this is the thing about

1257
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: the thing about fighting, right, is that the people who

1258
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: are truly not prepared are the people that are always

1259
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 1: radify mm hmm. And you almost feel sorry when you're like,

1260
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: you have no idea what you're about to get yourself

1261
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: into at all. You've already used up too much energy

1262
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: doing that. Yes, yes, uh already used it up. It's

1263
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: gonna take me three to four seconds to really change.

1264
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: Your life, revitalize your image.

1265
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: That's all we mean. So I respect you for for

1266
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: for learning the discipline that it takes to go along

1267
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: with that. You know what I mean. And if you

1268
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna you'renn get in the ring, get organized, you

1269
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: I did. He called his first one. I won. I'm

1270
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: not listen.

1271
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: People keep telling me you're about to about to be

1272
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: a fight, about to be decision split split. Yeah, how'd

1273
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: you feel like you did? I felt like I did

1274
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: good for bro. I was tired when I got in there.

1275
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: It's different when you fighting in front of people. And

1276
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: because what you gotta say, you gotta relax exactly. And

1277
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: the thing was, I was the third to last fight.

1278
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: So I'm back there, you know, doing too much warm,

1279
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, and.

1280
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 4: Just looking in anticipation and the adrenaline and you got

1281
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 4: the anxiety and the nerves and all of that. I

1282
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 4: didn't know about that. So I'm warm enough to do

1283
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: like they do this thing where you do twenty kicks

1284
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 4: to warm up. By ten, I was like, oh this

1285
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 4: is real.

1286
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: I'm gassed.

1287
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 4: So what I did was my bro prophet Lovey who.

1288
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: Love you bruh.

1289
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: He came back and kind of like helped me to

1290
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 4: relax because he did some shadow work with me and

1291
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 4: just helped me to just get center myself. And then

1292
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 4: I meditated. So then when I went up there, I'm like,

1293
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: people were like, you almost seem two calm. When I

1294
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 4: got in that round, I was super calm, but I

1295
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: also knew that I needed to conserve my energy, so

1296
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 4: I just kept it basic jabs and leg cakes and

1297
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 4: if you wanted to mix it up a little bit,

1298
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 4: we did. But at this point in my life, I'm

1299
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 4: not finna be doing all the extras. Bro It came

1300
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 4: out with the dub Man. I'm proud of myself for

1301
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: doing that, proud of myself for always challenging and stretching

1302
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 4: my boundaries. And you know I'm gonna continue to do that.

1303
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: You know, it just is what it is.

1304
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 4: It is my lifestyle doing the music.

1305
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: I still need some more records from now.

1306
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 4: Music will never leave me. It'll never leave me. But

1307
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 4: for real, keep me in mind with the directorial ship.

1308
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: I got the vision.

1309
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: Bro, we will see all right, I'm gonna hold you

1310
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: to thatts I know never did.

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