1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Charlamage the God we are the Breakfast Club. Jess is 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: on maternity leave, so Laura la Ross filling in and 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: we got a special guest in the building and love 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: of ladies and gent. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: For yourself. 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: That's right, Absolutely, no legend. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: I can't complain. Brother. Everything is good. 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 4: The kids are good, the wife is good, the family's good, 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 4: the grandkids is good, the tour is good. 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: So I'm good. 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: That's all that matter. That's right for most that don't know. 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Ed Lovell was the first celebrity I ever met. You're 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: from the same hood, so I'm it's from the same hood, 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: so I'm from Queen's. Edits from Queens And I used 17 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: to go to the school called Saint Joe cominan uh 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: and across from that school, Ed Lovers, one of your 19 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: kids went to PS thirty four. 20 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: Yep. 21 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Ed was. 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Dropping his kid off and Ed would have to walk 23 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: through the park where we would play in the afternoon, 24 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: and that was my first time meeting a celebrity. And 25 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Ed would walk through the park to drop his kids 26 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: off and talk to all the kids out and about, 27 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: And that was the first opportunity of meeting a celebrity 28 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: and seeing how cool a celebrity was, and me thinking 29 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: that every celebrity was that cool. But then when you 30 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: get in this industry, you realize not that celebrity is 31 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: not that cold. But that was my first time meeting 32 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Ed Lover and the influence of learning what he did 33 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: when he was hosting MTV, to the radio, to all 34 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: that stuff. But that was my first influence of how 35 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: a celebrity is just sitting there and stopping and talking 36 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: to the kids. How much that can do to you. 37 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: So who did that for you? 38 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: Who did everybody? Running them? 39 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: You know running I lived four blocks away from jam 40 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: Master Jow, so running them did that for me. Ll 41 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: used to stop by when I was in high school. 42 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: Security officer stopped buy in front of the school, pull 43 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: up in the drop top of holler at me and 44 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: all that stuff. So it was those cats that really 45 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: like because they're from Queens and Queens we were like 46 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: the forgotten Burrow and hip hop. 47 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: When hip hop was blowing up, it. 48 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: Was like, y'all from the desert, y'all are corny, y'all 49 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: live all the way out there. So those cats were 50 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: the ones that really kind of gave me the influence 51 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: to let me know that I can do something in 52 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: hip hop. Up to l actually made me put the 53 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: microphone down. I was an m C before that. I 54 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: was m eddy D back in the day. Remember everybody 55 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 4: had a d D. Didn't even mean nothing made you 56 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: put it down that nice. When I heard LKA, I 57 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: knew I was not that nice. Now running them, I 58 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: figured I can hang because I used to be in 59 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: the park Park thirty four Park, just slaying cats on 60 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: the mic. When I heard that little fifteen year old dude, 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I gotta figure out a different 62 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 4: way to get in the tip. Honest absolutely, that's the 63 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: first thing. But I was a trumpet player before that, 64 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: so that's you know. I was in the Top forty 65 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: band from the time I was a kid playing trumpet. 66 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: So that's why what I'm doing right now ed Lover 67 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: Presents the Live Mix Tape Band is full circle for 68 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: me because it's back. 69 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: With being with a band again. 70 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 5: So music has always been Music has always. 71 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: Been my entire life, and your top forty band is 72 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: when you play everything that's on the radio at the 73 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: time all that Iley Brothers, but between the sheets and all, 74 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: we used to play all of that, and we were 75 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: one of the youngest bands in New York City back 76 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: in when every little bar had a band and a DJ. 77 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Wow. 78 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 6: Do you remember the first time you heard LLL. I'm 79 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: sure it was before records. 80 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the first time I heard ll I think it. 81 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 4: Was on Farmers Boulevard in one of those parks over there, 82 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: and he was on the mic. He was about thirteen, 83 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: fourteen years old, and he was a monster at that time. 84 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 6: Wow. 85 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: So by the time you know, he got signed, it 86 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: was a rat for everybody. 87 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: How did you get into radio in hosting? 88 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: Right? 89 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Because it wasn't a job that people really thought that 90 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: they could get right. It was just something that we've 91 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: seen and people were in that business for forty years. 92 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: What said I can do that? Because you were the 93 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: originator really of the urban radio. 94 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Thing, I wouldn't say that. 95 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: I would say it Frankie Krocker. Fred Buggs was a 96 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: mentor to me to this day. Those cats that I 97 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: used to listen to, Chuck Lennon and all of them, Yeah, 98 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: Lenny Green, pick Up, Lindy Green, Green Green, Yeah. 99 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Well, that too, but Lindy Green too, and you know. 100 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: Von Harper Gone. 101 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: You know, those are the cats that they paved the 102 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: way for me. But what I decided to do once 103 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: we got the opportunity to jump on the radio is 104 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: to be my authentic self. Because I remember meeting and 105 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: this is no shade on Chuck Lennon, but the way 106 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: he sounded in person is not the way he sounded 107 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: on the radio. So when I got my opportunity to 108 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: be on the radio, I was like, I'm just gonna 109 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: be my authentic self and be exactly who I am 110 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: and use my voice and what I wanted to say 111 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: that opportunity come. 112 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: It came from you on. 113 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: TV rats because they were flipping Hot ninety seven from 114 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: a dance station into all hip hop stations. 115 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: So the late Steve. 116 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: Smith, god rest his soul, came down and said we 117 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: needed some people that's authentic and respected and hip hop 118 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 4: and gave Dray and I opportunity, and I said, hell no, 119 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: I was like, am I doing no radio get up 120 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: at five o'clock in. 121 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: The morning and be an I ain't doing that. 122 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: And then my manager at the time, Charlie Steller, wrote 123 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 4: down on a piece of paper. 124 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: But Howard Stern was making every year, and it was like, if. 125 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: You could get almost that good, I could guarantee you 126 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: I could get you a lot of that. 127 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's the money that people make 128 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: on the rail, let's do it. 129 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: How much was at that time Howard Stern have would 130 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: probably making four or five million dollars a year? 131 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. 132 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: Do you think because the nineties, do you think early 133 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: people respect urban radio like they do some of those 134 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: other places, Like you look at some of the numbers 135 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 2: that these white guys making this pop radio, right and 136 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: you're talking, I mean I think how it makes ninety 137 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: million or something like that. Satellite still though he was 138 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: he was making dollars a year on terrestrial radio. So 139 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: do you think that they respect them. Why don't you 140 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: think they respect the urban because they. 141 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: Put us in a box, man, And that's the thing 142 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: that that kills me about it. Like they will absolutely 143 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: some of these companies will put you in a box 144 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: that say all you could do is urban radio. 145 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: But they won't do that to somebody else. 146 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: Like a lot of the black program directors and what 147 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: they call brand managers now, they put them in the 148 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: urban box, like they can't program. 149 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: A different station, or like, all you guys know is this. 150 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: This is not all we know. We know a lot 151 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: of things. I know a lot about country music. I 152 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: know a lot about sports. I was off of the 153 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: job in Atlanta on sports radio because I'm a sports fanatic. 154 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: But they put us in the box and won't let 155 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 4: us do other things. But you take a white PD 156 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: or somebody like that, they'll let them. They'll let them 157 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: program a black radio station when they didn't even grow 158 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: up in this music before. They give us the opportunity 159 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: to even make that leap from being on air to programmer. 160 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: They'll take a white dude and let him program a 161 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: black radio station, but won't take a black dude who 162 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: has program in history and success and let him program 163 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: a country station. It's all programming. What's the difference. So 164 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: they put us in this box that we urban. Urban 165 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: is a nice way of saying black, and you can't 166 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: get out of the box. 167 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 6: But that's why, you know, as a personality, I always 168 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 6: say like you have to diversify your guests, Like whatever 169 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 6: your interest on, if you're into comic books, politics, movies, 170 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: bring all those artists on. 171 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: You'll limit yourself to just. 172 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: Do That's right the urban guest. Yeah, absolutely. 173 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: I remember when I was here at Power when we're 174 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 4: the other place. We used to be right next door 175 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: to Whoopi Goldberg and we put John bon Jovi on 176 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: the radio. Remember when I had Oprah on the radio 177 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: and people was like classic moment. Yeah, how you doing that? Like, 178 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: you know, bon Jovi don't know he cool with black 179 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: people until we tell him. 180 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: So we have to diversify and go outside of the box. 181 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: Did that really happen organically like that with Oprah? 182 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Just like it was Jamie Fox? Did that? 183 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: Bro Okay? 184 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: I had Jamie up and I said, Jamie, you know 185 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: Oprah's you cool with Oprah. Oprah's getting a reputation that 186 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: she don't like hip hop. You should tell Oprah come 187 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: higher at me. So I guess he told her that 188 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: she was in the city. 189 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: You know. 190 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: He told Gail and they were in the city and 191 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: Gail said, Jamie said that ed love of loves you, 192 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: we should just roll up. 193 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: There, and she just came Wow. I wasn't there, bro, 194 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: I was not there. 195 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: My cousin had gotten killed and his weight was there 196 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: and I left early. 197 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I was in the afternoons. Then I left. 198 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: Early to go to the wake and we're driving and 199 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: my car get the car the line were driving, me 200 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: and my assistant and it gets the phone call your 201 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: Oprah's up here and she's looking for you. 202 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, please get out of here. 203 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: Y'all play too much back when we hung out, but 204 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: they called us back. It was like, no, for real, 205 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: Oprah's here, you need to And I jumped out the 206 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: car and ran back to the station and. 207 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: She was there, and she came so cool man. 208 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: She had one security upstairs with her, one downstairs in 209 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: the lobby. 210 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: Huh, and Gale and me and I just cut all 211 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: the music off. I was like, ladies at that point, yeah, 212 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Oprah's head. It was crazy. 213 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 6: That's the one and only time Oprah's ever done hip 214 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 6: hop radio. Yes, the one and only times done anybody else. 215 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: How do you be feeling now when people attack Oprah 216 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: saying like she's not for like black people with black 217 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 5: men all that, Like you know, in real life. 218 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: You gotta know Oprah Man. 219 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: And she does so many things that she doesn't advertise, 220 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: Like she gives away so much of her wealth that 221 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: she does not advertise. 222 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: Like remember when she opened the school in Africa, and 223 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: people was like, she needn't do that in the United States. 224 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: She's done that, she just doesn't advertise it all the time. 225 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: So she's she's a different a different cut from a 226 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: different cloth. And it's funny knowing her because people will 227 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: always tell me to call Oprah and act Oprah to 228 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: do something. I'm like, I ain't calling over. I call 229 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 4: on her birthday and Christmas. 230 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: That's it. 231 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: That's how a call you just casually make all the time. 232 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: No what're supposed to do? Open my man, got a 233 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: move each other. 234 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: That the most monumental moment besides on the radio and 235 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: what was one of the worst moments on radio for you. 236 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: One of the. 237 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 4: Worst moments on the radio was somebody that I won't name, 238 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 4: that I was working with. 239 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: That we got into an argument on the radio. 240 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: That was that was crazy because when we actually saw 241 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: each other not too long ago and both of us 242 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: apologized for our parts and in the fiasco. You know, 243 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 4: you get older and you learned right stuff. If you 244 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: don't learn, then you just stuck. But one of my 245 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: favorite moments probably was Oprah was definitely my favorite. But 246 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: my favorite from your on TV raps is too. One 247 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: was definitely having James Brown on for a week because 248 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: James Brown's a godfather, saw the Backbone, the most sample 249 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: man in hip hop history. 250 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 7: My daddy calls the first rapple absolutely right and funny 251 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 7: with James because the whole time he was there, everybody 252 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 7: around him had to call him mister Brown, and uh, 253 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 7: he let myself, Dre and t Money call him James, 254 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 7: especially when he found out that my first name is 255 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 7: actually James, so then he was talking. 256 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, day dat. 257 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: I ain't know what he was talking about about. It 258 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: was cool having him on man, that was so dope. 259 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: And probably when we had Bill Cosby on way before 260 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: all the trouble, he actually uh called looking for me wow, 261 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: and then left the number and I called him back 262 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: and he actually picked up the phone. 263 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: Did he give you a lection? 264 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: No, That's what that was crazy, Charlottemage, because you know 265 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy had said he only calls you if he 266 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: wants to tell you he don't like what you're doing, 267 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: or if he loves what you're doing. So I'm nervous 268 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: when he gets on the phone and he tells me 269 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: that he was in his office with his daughter and 270 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: they watched you on TV raps and I was doing 271 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: a character and he was like, man, that thing was 272 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: so funny and uh. And then he was like, listen, 273 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have you on my show, and then I'm 274 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: gonna come and do your show. And he was a 275 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: man of his work. Yeah, you did do an episode 276 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: of Yeah, I did episode of the show. I did 277 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: it twice. The first time we got cut out and 278 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 4: then the second time they interwove with me so much 279 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: of the story that it was impossible for me to 280 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: get caught out. 281 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 6: The argument you having on the EDD you what was 282 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 6: it about? 283 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: It was about shaking us on the show at the time. 284 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 3: It's like something something that should have been internal. 285 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it got blown out of purposed. 286 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: You know, do you think well, first of all, I 287 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen Lisa G. But Lisa G 288 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: works up here. 289 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: Did you see I gotta go stop by and say 290 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: what's up? 291 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: But I was going to ask you do you didn't 292 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: know that a list G works up here? 293 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: Do you work here? 294 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 295 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: I was I was going to ask, you know, do 296 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: you think radio it's too serious? 297 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Right? 298 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: Because now when you look at jocks, you know, we 299 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: play all the time. But I remember the skits that 300 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: you used to do and listening to y'all in the morning. 301 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: It was fun. 302 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: Right when I watch you on Rap City, it was fun. 303 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: Now I feel like it was fun. Do you feel 304 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: like it's not fun anymore when it comes. 305 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: Back fun because of the people taking everything that you 306 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: say too seriously? You know, I say one of my 307 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: favorite breakfast club moments when y'all went viral was Birdman. 308 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, put some respect on my name. 309 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: I ain't playing all tree of y'all. You come up 310 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: here with a bunch of goons. They taking everything too seriously. Now, 311 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: when we was poking front of people, people knew that 312 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: we was just joking around and they ain't taking that serious. 313 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: It was nobody sitting outside the radio station trying to 314 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: beat me up because I said a joke about them. 315 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: So I just think, yeah, radio is getting too serious. 316 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 4: But it's the times, and I hate I hate this 317 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: time that every time you turn around you're saying rest 318 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: in piece to somebody, or some artists is getting killed, 319 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: or some rapper got gunned down, or somebody did this. Man, 320 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 4: it's the love is just almost gone out of it, 321 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 4: and the love needs to come back into it because 322 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: we're losing too many of us. You know, I just 323 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: heard and I want to shout out got it because 324 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: I heard he wasn't doing you know, he had a 325 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: stroke or something. But I wanted to say love to IRV, 326 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: me and Earth. You know that envy. We all from 327 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: the same neighborhood. But Irv said, the only thing worse 328 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: than getting old is not getting old. You know, I 329 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: was with Poc. I saw a pot fifteen minutes before 330 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: he got shot. I'm sitting next to Biggie in the 331 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: Peterson Automonive Museum. 332 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Before he walked out. 333 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: The last thing he said to me is do I 334 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: want to ride with him to NAS and Steve starts party. 335 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I got a Corvette. I was 336 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: feeling myself a corvette. And you know every time I'm 337 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: in LA now I got little money giving me a corvette. 338 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, drop tops, I'm rolling? Yeah, wow, 339 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: I said, nah. Christopher and he was always Edwin and 340 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: he gave me a bottle of don Pi. He told 341 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 4: me to drink hudful for to bring it back. So 342 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm supposed to drink alf a bottle 343 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: of Dompia. I'm running around giving it everybody. I bring 344 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: it back to him. He pull out bot of Grandma Manye, 345 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: filled it up and gave it back to me. So 346 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: that's my relationship. It was hanging with Big, you know. 347 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: So I'm blessed to be here. 348 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: Man, and I don't speed pass story. 349 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 6: You and Angie, y'all be saying that stuff so casual. 350 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: That's like Greek mythology. Biggie and these people are mythical figures. 351 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: Does was man. Pock was a trip man. 352 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: Being being with Poc sometimes was absolutely intriguing. But a 353 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: lot of people don't understand. Was a young dude, so 354 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: sometimes you get caught up in a wave of stuff 355 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: when you're young, you know what I mean. And I 356 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: watched him and Big go from two dudes that absolutely 357 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: adored each other to being at opposite ends of something 358 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: that just kind of rolled got bigger than them, right, 359 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: So we used to pick Pock up. My man stretched 360 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: too from Live Squad, you know, stretch from the recipe 361 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: stretch I got stretching them they did with Tommy Boy. 362 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: That was my group, Live Squad and Stretching. 363 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: Poc became friends when I did Juice Stretch with me 364 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: to film my scene the Juice. If you you missed it, 365 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: I was standing behind Queen of I was about. 366 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 7: Did you see my face? 367 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: That's why you said that, because I'm like. 368 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm standing behind Queen of Tea from when she says 369 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: the winner is cute. 370 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm right there there though they paid me to sign. 371 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: So that's when we met Pop and stretching Pot, both 372 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: heavy weed smokers and and Trash from Nordy. They all friends. 373 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: So whenever Pot came to New York, we pick him 374 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: up and the first thing he would always ask us, 375 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: did anybody talk to Big We're big at So we 376 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: holler that big page, big, bigger page. 377 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Back and they go to Brooklyn Pages and. 378 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: See and see and see big. So they were really 379 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: really tight to so to see. 380 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: That man, that just bothered me. You ten, Yeah. 381 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 8: Do you remember like the turning of that because like 382 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 8: you saw the love right, yeah, was like, do you 383 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 8: remember like when that started to ship. 384 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: Right after the incident in the studio. 385 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 8: And their conversations behind the scenes, like like we hear 386 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 8: about people trying to calm it down, but what was 387 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 8: it really like behind the scenes trying to make them 388 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 8: understand that by the. 389 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: Time it escalated to the point it escalated to when 390 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: I was in Vegas that fight when Pot got killed 391 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: and I saw Pop coming through the Betty Boot bar 392 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: and I'm standing there with bitch of Don Magic wand 393 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: pretty Tony Handsome Drey and all the time I'm outside 394 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: in the bar and they trying to convince me they 395 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: won't give me a prostitute. And I'm like, I ain't 396 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: got no time to be watching Old Woman twenty five. 397 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: And you a pimp, man, You got pimp in your Maine. 398 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: I'm telling your Maine. He was a I was like, man, 399 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: I don't want no prostitute. 400 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Man. 401 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: Pot comes through with sugar them and I didn't see 402 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: the stomping out of the kid because I was in 403 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: the box. He comes through, he stopped. Were talking, Yo, 404 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: what's up? What's good man? How you doing? 405 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: Man? 406 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. 407 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 9: I like you. 408 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: Coming to Shug's party. I'm like, yeah, bet I love you. 409 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: I love you too. They keep going, and my mind, 410 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: I'm from the East Coast. I'm not going to Shugars 411 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: Club in the middle of an East Coast West Coast war. 412 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: Even though I'm neutral, I ain't going over there, then 413 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: y'all gonna get drunk and let's stomp out the kid. 414 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: From New York. Nah, I'm not doing that. 415 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: Do you wish you jumped in between since you knew 416 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: both of them and tried to I did. 417 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 4: I tried to talk the Park. He just he wasn't 418 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 4: hearing it. Big was stunned. Big didn't know where it 419 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 4: was coming from, why it was coming. 420 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: He was hurt. Big and Season probably told y'all that before. 421 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 4: Big was honestly hurt by it because they loved each 422 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: other that much. Once that ball got rolling, it was 423 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 4: just impossible. Then you got Fine Magazine and all of 424 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: these people doing East Coast West Coast beef. It wasn't 425 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: that it was bad boy death Row. 426 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: That was it. 427 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: How did y'all handle that on radio and TV? 428 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: Back then? I'm run to my business, That's what I did. 429 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: I minded my business. 430 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: I wasn't getting in between that stuff, man, because it 431 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 4: was hurt for to see two friends just turn what 432 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: they'd love they have into ashes, right, So I just 433 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: tried to stay out of it as much as I can. 434 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 6: No, only to ask you a personality back in the day, 435 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 6: how did you know that you had to be multimedia 436 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 6: because you did t TV, you. 437 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: Did radio, movie, you did movies. 438 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 6: How did those things? Did those things happened or what 439 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 6: you were intentional about being multimi? 440 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: I was intentional about it because my mother and father. 441 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: I was lucky enough to grow up with both parents 442 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: in the home and I they were always instilling me 443 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: that when you get an opportunity to do. 444 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Something, you take that opportunity. 445 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: So just like you writing books and you're on your 446 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: third book now, congratulations, when I had those opportunities to 447 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 4: do that, I took the opportunities. You know, even if 448 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: some of them didn't work out, I still I still 449 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 4: took the opportunity. I remember talking to Angie when Andrew 450 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: was gonna make her album and I was in the 451 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 4: studio with her doing one of her shows. I think 452 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 4: I was there late for some reason and Andrewe was like, man, ed, 453 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this album. I don't know if I 454 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: should do it. I supposed to come out whack. I said, Angie, 455 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: me and Dre did an album. Take the opportunity. I said, 456 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: are you going to regret it if you don't do it? 457 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: And she was like yeah, I said, and do it. 458 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 4: I saw you take every opportunity that's presented in front 459 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: of you. Now, every check ain't a good check. There's 460 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: been some endorsement stuff that I probably wish I never 461 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: got involved with, but that's the way it is. 462 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: You take the. 463 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: Opportun when the opportunities presented themselves. That's why when I 464 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: had the opportunity to. 465 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 10: Do this band thing here for the summer to the 466 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 10: Love Presents the Live Mixtape twenty four, so he's on 467 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 10: tour for that, so we're definitely gonna be talking about that. 468 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: Who's the Man? 469 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 6: Come up? 470 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, Who's the Man? 471 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: I wrote Who's the Man? I wrote the story for 472 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: Who's the Man? I knocked on Dre's door, and then 473 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: Dre and I expanded on it, and then Charlie, who's 474 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: our manager, said it's a good idea. 475 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Let's take it to. 476 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: New Line and then New Line said yeah, and then 477 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: we said we're not doing it unless Ted directs it, 478 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: and Ted was like bet. 479 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: He wanted to do it. 480 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: And then they found a screenwriter because I didn't know 481 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: how to write a script, and the screenwriter wrote the 482 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: script and we sat with him said take that out. 483 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: No nobody talks like that in the barber shop. Take 484 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: that out, take it out, and then they greenlit it. 485 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Man. 486 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 4: You know, so it was a it was a good 487 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: idea and if you look at it when you watch 488 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: it, it says story. 489 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: By at Love and doctor Dray because we wrote the 490 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: story how doctor d Now d is recovering. 491 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: Dre has been not well for a while, you know, 492 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: it's suffering from diabetes and legally blind. But we got 493 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: Drey in a good place right now and he's getting 494 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: back to being Dre again. Now he's still my partner. 495 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: We still talk all the time. He's still a damn fool, 496 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 4: and we still do a lot of stuff together. So 497 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: he's good. 498 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: Did you do it? You didn't do other films after 499 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Who's the Man? 500 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 9: Right? 501 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah we did, Yeah we did. We had a 502 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: three pitcher deal that fell apart. 503 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 7: Wow. 504 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, it's the way to cookie crumbles sometime. 505 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: But I've done a lot of movies, bro a lot 506 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: of stuff. 507 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 508 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Now I wanted to know. You know, at one time, 509 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: you talk about your finances and it went back what 510 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: made the finances go bad? Because when you hear the stories, 511 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: you hear the movies, you have radio, you hear this, 512 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: what happened. What was the the money that was spent 513 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: on or maybe somebody as bro. 514 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: Y'all talking about this morning I arrest, but I bounced 515 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 4: right back off of that, bro. 516 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: Thank thank god for the love of a good woman. 517 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: My wife is smarter than me, and she is the 518 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: one that was like, don't worry about it, we'll get 519 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 4: it together. And when they freeze your account and take 520 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: your money that it's like, whoa, bro. I was so 521 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: happy I was getting paid that next two weeks. I 522 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: was like, I got it in the house crying. They 523 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: took like ninety thousand straight out of my account, bro, 524 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: just like wipe me. I was like, ah, I'm a dog. 525 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: So my wife was like, nah, just push the car 526 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: note back. Call these people. Push that back, push this back, 527 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 4: and push it back. And I did and I was 528 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: able to recover off of it. You know, it's a 529 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: good thing, but you gotta pay that irs. Baby, you 530 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: better because they coming for their money. They don't care 531 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: when it is. 532 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 3: What is the live mixtape exactly? 533 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 4: The live mixtape is a journey of music. Like I 534 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 4: was saying earlier, is me coming full circle. These two 535 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: beautiful individuals that you see behind me do all the singing. 536 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: Lets carry Epps that shirt with Brown Jr. 537 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: They do all the singing, I do all the rapping, 538 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 4: and we got a full band and we take everybody 539 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: on the musical journey and we just had fun. We 540 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: do everything from ll to Sheryl Lynn, to Rick James 541 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: to Nicki Minaj's we do everything. You gotta hear them 542 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: to sing many theay monsters mans career. 543 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: He's going to be at Soob's this Friday and Wednesday. 544 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: He's in Atlanta, So if you're in the area Friday, SOB's, Wednesday, Atlanta, 545 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: definitely go check them out. I see you were in 546 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: Boston a couple days ago. 547 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, how was that? 548 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: That was? 549 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: Boston was all right, but you know what was live? 550 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: The cities that you don't think alive are the cities 551 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: that's live. Pittsburgh crazy, Saint Louis crazy, Philly. 552 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: Came out heavy. They was crazy. 553 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: Nashville was crazy, and the first time we did Atlanta 554 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: was ridiculous. 555 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool. 556 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 6: You know, how do you feel about these hip hop 557 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 6: like media personality lists and do you think you know 558 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 6: icons like you know, the Big Boys, the Sways, the Angie's, 559 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 6: even yourself do you think y'all should still be on him, 560 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 6: But I feel like they got to have some type 561 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: of of it all time Hall of Fame list for y'all. 562 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 6: I don't even think they should put y'all in on 563 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 6: those things anymore. 564 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I think everybody's list is everybody's opinion, 565 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: and everybody's always going to differ with whatever lists they 566 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: come out with. Who's the greatest that did this, Who's 567 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: the greatest that did That's funny because we were just 568 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: having a conversation because I just recently heard somebody was like, 569 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: I think Tank said Chris Brown was better than Michael 570 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: Jackson or something like that. 571 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, huh, ridiculous. 572 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. 573 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: And I think now people do because everything is so 574 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: social media, people do stuff for clickbait. So I think 575 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 4: everybody that has their list is their list. My list 576 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: is always going to differ from their list. Somebody's always 577 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: asking me, who's my top five rappers of all time? 578 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I get the same answer. I don't have one. I 579 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: don't have one. 580 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: I go by errors, but I just can't say that 581 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: this person is better than this person, or that person's 582 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: better than this person, because You're always going to leave 583 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: somebody off, somebody that's dope. Like somebody might say, you know, 584 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: it used to be jay Z bigg and nods at 585 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: one point, right who the better jay Z Bigger? But 586 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: how do you leave three thousand out of that? How 587 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: do you leave black thought off of that tupac back then? 588 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: You know? 589 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 4: How do you leave most death off? It's just too many. 590 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: So everybody, let's have your listener in ONBAMA. 591 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: I think it's feeling too like to me growing up 592 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: driving to school every day and hearing what's up y'all? 593 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: What you got to say? Who's on the phone with 594 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: at Leasta and j at Leasta and Dre is moments 595 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: that you never forget. But there's some kid out there 596 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: that never heard that moment, and that moment is good 597 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: morning usay yo yo yo yo, yo yo yo, you know, 598 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: and it is generation because I don't think they actually 599 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: understand what it was. 600 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: That's all generation. 601 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 4: Like when I was a kid, we had our things, 602 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: you know, listening to Z one hundred early in the morning, 603 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: and then I had my time for the generation and 604 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: as generations of people that listen to you guys every 605 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: single day, it's just a generational thing. It doesn't make 606 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: one thing better than another. It's just what we had 607 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: for our generation in our time, and now with somebody 608 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: else's generation and their time. The stuff that my grandson 609 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: listened to is not the stuff that my daughter listen to. 610 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: You know, I only understand it. It's a whole vibe, Grandpa. 611 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, I like the Mount Rushmore conversation though, 612 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: because I feel like they are founding fathers, founding you know, 613 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: mothers who showed justs. We absolutely stand on right. So 614 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 6: if you're talking about hip hop media, Mount. 615 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: Rushmore, you gotta be on. I got to be on. 616 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 617 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: Who's sitting there with you? 618 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 8: Though? 619 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 5: Who would you say? 620 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Dre is definitely next to me? 621 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 8: Now the package, I think, yeah, you gotta package or one? 622 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 8: Who else is there on the. 623 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore hip hop Geez damn. 624 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: I can I cannot leave Angreie Mark and I can't 625 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: leave flex off. I can't leave funk flex off of that. 626 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: There's no way, you know, especially if it's if you're 627 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: talking New York. But this country is so big, and 628 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: there's been other people in other cities that I've done 629 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: wonderful things, like we got the rod called from the 630 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: Baker Boys Wow in California. 631 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: I had to call him and ask him, can we 632 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: can we do this? Steve Smith trying to give it 633 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: to us. 634 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't stealing nobody's stuff. Let me 635 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: ask them, and they were like, yeah, man, y'all got ahead. 636 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, bet, let's do the little 637 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: twist to it and do it all ways. So you know, 638 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 4: what's my man name? 639 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: Dan? 640 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: You in the room, Dan, what's my man named? From 641 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: kDa back in the days? You know what I'm talking about? 642 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Greg? 643 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: Uh, he's big in La on what KD was the 644 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: first a m all hip hop radio station. 645 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: He's straight pioneer this stuff. Man. 646 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: So what would you. 647 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Say now, July? I used to work with pick Up 648 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Julio too. 649 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: What would you say be the other one? 650 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: Though? 651 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: You said, Greg Mac? 652 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: Greg Mac from KD, Greg Mac from k Who. 653 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: Would be the other person on the Bell Restaurant? 654 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: I don't bigay? 655 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: Definitely big boy, Yeah, flex Angie me Dre, y'all. 656 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Y'all made y'all, monk man, you made your mark. You 657 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: deserve to be on there. Bro. 658 00:26:59,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 9: You. 659 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 3: I put Wendy on the first. 660 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: Wendy forget Wendy started a radio Wendy definitely. I'm glad, 661 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: no disrespect Wendy, you definitely absolutely. 662 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, as an OG listening to 663 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: different radio personalities, what do you like and what don't 664 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: you like when you listen to I don't like. 665 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: I don't like the fake and the phony. I like 666 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: the authenticity. I listened to y'all. I like what y'all 667 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: are doing because you're authentic and you say what you 668 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 4: feel and you mean what you say. 669 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 670 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 4: Y'all didn't get shook at all when Birdman came up 671 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 4: in there. Y'all ain't get shook at all. Y'all just 672 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: looked at him like word, Okay, you really think it's 673 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 4: that easy? 674 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: Huh? 675 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: So you know when the time you check that, who 676 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: did you check for saying something crazy about your wife? 677 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: Who? Individual? 678 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: Everybody? 679 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: Everybody? 680 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm a person. 681 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: So who you are because I've known you for a while, 682 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 4: I've known Charlemagne for a while, I just met your mommy. 683 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 4: Who y'all are is what we hear on this radio, 684 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 4: and that's what I respect. I don't respect the fakeness. Now, 685 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: all of that y'all. Don't y'all never say my man this, 686 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: my man that, because y'all know this business. You've been 687 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: in this business. You know all that stuff is fake. Man, 688 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 4: These people are your people. Why you could do something 689 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 4: for him? Then when you can't do nothing for him, 690 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: no more dange your people, no more correct. So that 691 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: authenticity is what I respect and what I like. And 692 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 4: the fake and the phony I don't. I don't have 693 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: any room for that in my life. 694 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 6: Was it more beneficial to be friends with artists back 695 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 6: in the day because I remember. 696 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: No, No, it still ain't. 697 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 4: No. My friends now are the same friends I've always had. 698 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: But I think my probably my closest friend, I was 699 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: closer to the reps than the artists. Always been closer 700 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: to the reps than the artists. Probably my closest friend, 701 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: and was probably Park and Heavy Heavy D was very 702 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 4: we're very close. 703 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: Recipes have I just see his daughter just got his 704 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: catalog for so long, I got the catalog and everything. 705 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, did you ever think of suing the NFL when 706 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 6: they took the whole Come on, I ain't. 707 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 11: Have to brog absolutely, I have to. 708 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was nice, it was great, right, My daughter 709 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: got a master's degree. 710 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: That's all I got to said. 711 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Did she go to She went to. 712 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: She went to montclass State and then she got a 713 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: master's degree of William Patterson. 714 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: Google how much. 715 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: We had to reach out. We're a little reaching out. 716 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: I was scared because it's owned by Disney, and I 717 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 4: was like, damn, I ain't gonna be able to take 718 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: my grandkids. 719 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: And Disney a big picture love. Let this fool in. 720 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: But it worked out. They tried to say they started, 721 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: they know it was too blatant. It was a platos 722 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: a play. Even wrote it the same except they put man. 723 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, no, we ain't gonna let 724 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: Y'll get over with that, not at all. 725 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 6: Do you believe the New York nineties hip hop scene 726 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 6: has been properly documented? 727 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: No, no, not yet, not the whole scene. No, no, 728 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: nobody's nobody has done that yet. 729 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: They've they've properly documented certain. 730 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: Parts of it, right, They that the whole tribe part 731 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: and the you know, but nobody's delved into Mom Deep 732 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: and Big and Jay and Nas and all the cats 733 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: in Black Moon and Wu Tang and all that stuff 734 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: existing at the same time. That film hasn't been done 735 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: yet you know, so it hasn't been documented correctly. 736 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: No, and radio at the same time. 737 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, what New York radio was back then, yere we 738 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 6: burst on the scene. 739 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: There was no other all hip hop radio station in 740 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: New York City butt Hot in ninety seven. So when 741 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: we used to have these parties and we used to 742 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, oh, we number one again, and then we 743 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: pat ourselves on the back and I'd be like, number 744 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: one against who we compete against us? We're the only 745 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: ones here. Why are we happy about being Let's beat 746 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: everybody and then we can say we number one, you know. 747 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: So it was that time was special. When we you're 748 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: living it, you don't realize how special that time is. 749 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: It was just so much going on. So to answer 750 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: your question, No, nobody has documented. I wish somebody would 751 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: because there's so many different parts of it. 752 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: Fashion right, right, the fashion was. 753 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 4: Crazy called Kanai and right five thousand and one flavors, 754 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 4: what they was doing and everything. All that was happening 755 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: at the same time the parties Chris Latimer doing can 756 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: Coon every year. 757 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: We used to go to kan Koon. 758 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: That's where that the one mistake Chris made and all 759 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: of us slept on this we did. Nobody trademarked what 760 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: happens in can Coon stays in. 761 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: Can km Vegas took it in trademark bears. 762 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: Wow, that was I was saying, what happens in cant Coon, 763 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: stay in can Koon because debauchery was happening in can't Coon, Bro. 764 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 4: Everybody was smashing everybody, So it was like, this is 765 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: can Coon. 766 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: We're not bringing this home. Sweet. 767 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: I know we had a good time in Cantcom, but 768 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: we home. We it's not happening no more. I know 769 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: you live in Minnesota. 770 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: I'm never you originated the Blacklist. 771 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: We had fun, we was wiling. 772 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 8: Do you feel like I mean, because now a lot 773 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 8: of that fun gets turned onto people, lawsuits are happened 774 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 8: and all that now, But when you see that, like 775 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 8: all that happened in to like our legends like Diddy 776 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 8: and you know, wrestle like different people, how do you 777 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 8: feel about that? Because I know you said one time, 778 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 8: I can't take away what Diddy's done. 779 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 5: I mean for music to. 780 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Take away his legacy. Yeah, but what he did. 781 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: To Cassie that we saw on camera was atrocious and 782 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: deplorable and he should be ashamed of himself for not 783 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: the rest of it. 784 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Have I been to Diddy parties? Yeah? 785 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: Did I know what time to go home? Yeah? Have 786 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I hung out with Diddy? Yeah? 787 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: Have I had fun with Diddy? Has Diddy always treated 788 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: me with love and respect? 789 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: Hell? Yeah? 790 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: So all I could go by is what I know 791 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: about Sean Khan's what I saw deplorable and despicable and discussing, 792 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: and as a father of four girls, did he would 793 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: have had a problem if that was my job. 794 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: But I can't erase his legacy and what he did 795 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: musically and. 796 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: What he meant to music. And I think he's learning 797 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: a hard lesson right now that these all them people 798 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 4: that you thought with your people, there was never your people? 799 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: So what should happened to did he? 800 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 9: Now? 801 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: Because we talk about his legacy, right, you know, people 802 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: talk about forgiveness, people talk about he should lose everything. 803 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: What's your thoughts? What should happened to? Somebody like it? 804 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: But I think if there is something legal, let the 805 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: courts play it out. But in the court of public 806 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: opinion and morality, that's something totally different. And he hasn't 807 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: been convicted of a crime, So the man is innocent 808 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: until proven guilty. And I would hope that somebody would 809 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 4: feel that way about me. But I think he has 810 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: to make amends for what we saw in Yeah, we 811 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: saw a video like that happened. What's my man named 812 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: ray Rice? Remember used to play for Baltimore. He did 813 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: the thing in the elevator and you know he didn't 814 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 4: get to play professional football anymore. So I think you 815 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 4: know did he got some soul searching to do and 816 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to make amends for what we saw. 817 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 5: Can he make amends for that? 818 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 9: Though? 819 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 6: Like? 820 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 8: How do you do that? Like after something like that? 821 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 8: It's super public, It's at this point his reputation is 822 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 8: what it is? Like, how do you come back from 823 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 8: something like that? 824 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 4: I've never been in that situation, so I can't answer 825 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: that question, but it's gonna be tough. 826 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: The first you gotta take care of what you need 827 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: to take care of. 828 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: As far if I was in that situation, I don't 829 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: know how or what I would do. I would think 830 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: I would just have to rely on my God and 831 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: just take everything one day at a time. But I 832 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: would definitely try to make some amends for it and 833 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: probably get some counseling for it. 834 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 6: And what you said is true, and I don't understand 835 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 6: why people can't explore that, Like, your emotions do be 836 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 6: complicated on situations like this. 837 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: Yes, what he did is disgusting. 838 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 6: Right, but we still can't actly we didn't wile all 839 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 6: about the Benjamins, and we didn't you know, love that 840 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 6: whole bad boy at some point. 841 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 4: Now we played one twelve in the show Man, you 842 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 4: gotta do the mace pot. 843 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? 844 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: Who more you want to. 845 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 6: Why? 846 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you're you've never been in a situation like 847 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 5: you said. 848 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 8: But when I hear y'all talk about separating the man 849 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 8: from the music, I feel like, what are Kelly? 850 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 5: People instantly? 851 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 8: Like stations stopped playing songs, don't stop playing them. 852 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: People bang Kelly, they call it. 853 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 5: But I'm just saying like there was like a corporate. 854 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 6: Like movement around to what he was doing. Yeah, Like 855 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 6: when you hear about what he's doing here, age ain't 856 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 6: nothing but a number, it seems like it's different. 857 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 5: The music was about that. 858 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: I see. 859 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: I think also with I think, and it's gonna sound crazy, 860 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: I think Diddy was I don't want to say more relatable, 861 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: but he was more in tune to hip hop. I 862 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: would see Diddy, we would go to Diddy parties. He right, Well, 863 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: I know Diddy, I don't know Kelly, you know what 864 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: I mean. So it's a little different when you're dealing 865 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: with people like that. 866 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And with Rob, with Diddy, you're not hearing 867 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 4: nothing about underage you know what I mean. You're hearing 868 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: about wild parties, and you're hearing about what happened with 869 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 4: Ms Cassie Ventura, but you're not hearing about him taking 870 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 4: the advantage of underage girls and boys. And that's what 871 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: we got with Rob. That was an open secret in 872 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 4: the music business for years. 873 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: That's what Rob's preference was. 874 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, we heard that before all the I mean I've 875 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 6: heard I've heard people say that. Yeah, it was an 876 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 6: open secret. But I mean, why do people allow that. 877 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: I guess he was making money people a lot, a 878 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 4: lot of stuff when it comes time to make money, right. 879 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: I want to know, you know, back to the radio 880 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: where you were talking about white program directors and white 881 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: people running the industry when Hot ninety seven flipped to 882 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: hip hop, right, and of course hip hop is our culture, 883 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: did you ever feel a way that the bosses were 884 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: white and they were pretty much telling us what to 885 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: do for our culture in. 886 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: The very beginning of Hot ninety seven. 887 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 4: I can't say that I've ever felt that way because 888 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 4: they were always in tune to what we were doing 889 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 4: and open to listen. It wasn't just like this blanket 890 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 4: that when I went to Steve office it said something 891 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 4: to Steve. Steve would always listen when Tracy was there. 892 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: If I go say, Tracy, I think that we should 893 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 4: be doing this, that, and the third, Tracy would always listen. 894 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: And if there was a corporate reason. 895 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 4: Why we couldn't do it, or there was a financial 896 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: reason why we couldn't. 897 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: Do it, she was They were always open to listen. 898 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: So I never felt that way over there. 899 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 4: I never felt like I wasn't being heard, even though 900 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 4: this was the music that we grew up on, in 901 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 4: the music that we gave to the world. I never 902 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 4: felt that I wasn't being heard. Because it's the same 903 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: way with MTV. Everybody that was my boss with MTV 904 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 4: was white. But I can always talk to Tad and 905 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 4: Peter and they will always fight that good fight for me. 906 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: Dre and Fat I love Tracy. Tracy was the one. 907 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: Tracy is great to Tracy, how did. 908 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: You approach on TV different from your approach on radio? 909 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: Television or radio? 910 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 4: Is you know this radio is automatic, It's right in 911 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: front of your face. It's like, soon as you walk 912 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: out the house, whatever you said, people gonna repeat back 913 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 4: to you. 914 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Television, you do your. 915 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 4: Job, you act, and they may see it later, or 916 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 4: they may not see it and may air this day, 917 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 4: it may not air this day. Radio is the most 918 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 4: immediate thing because people get you get it automatically and 919 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 4: in your. 920 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: Face, and that's it. So radio. 921 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: I approached radio differently the television television. Most of the time, 922 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 4: if I'm on TV, I'm acting well. If I'm doing radio. 923 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: It's just me. 924 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 8: Is it true that you were only making five hundred 925 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 8: dollars a week the first week of YO and TV reps? 926 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 927 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, the first eight so maybe a year yeah, 928 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 4: first year, yeah, because they didn't know what to do 929 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: with the show. 930 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: Fab was already there, Thank god. 931 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 11: For Fab Fabredy, fab five Freddy, like Fabulous was there? No, 932 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 11: not that fat, there's another Fab before Fab. It was 933 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 11: Fab five Freddy. He was already there. He got on 934 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 11: in eighty eight. So this show blew up. They wanted 935 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 11: to do a daily show. 936 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 4: So when they decided to do the daily show, Drey 937 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 4: and I got the opportunity to audition. Because Peter knew 938 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: Drake Peter Darty god Rest his soul executive producer new Drake, 939 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 4: Ted Demi knew me, and Ted called me in. Ted 940 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: had the foresight to put me and Dre together. They 941 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: had one thousand dollars a week for a host, so 942 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: Dre took five. I took the other five. It didn't 943 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 4: last that long. We got our money. 944 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 2: What was the biggest check you got, if you don't 945 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: mind talking from radio or TV? The biggest check that you. 946 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 4: Got at one one time? Just like one check in 947 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: my hand, one hundred thousand that was from That. 948 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: Was from H that was from TV. 949 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 4: I had an opportunity to do a late night TV 950 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 4: talk show and they gave me a one hundred thousand 951 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: dollars check in my hand. 952 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 5: A few episodes. 953 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: We shot the pilot at the David Letterman Theater and 954 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 4: it was a good show and everything was a go. 955 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: And then they called me and said, oh, we decided 956 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 4: to go with keenan Ivory Walliams. But they gave me 957 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars. Fine, I mean Keenan, this great guy. 958 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: They gave me one hundred thousand dollars holy feet, So 959 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 4: I was fine with that. That's when they hold you 960 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: like for a year, you can't do nothing else, like 961 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 4: you can't do another talk show, and they just handed 962 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 4: me a check for one hundred thousand. But Drey and 963 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 4: I went from five hundred dollars a week to a 964 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 4: quarter million dollars a year after the first year, you're 965 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 4: on TV rights each if she was like. 966 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 6: Back then, it was more about hip hop culture than 967 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 6: hip hop business. 968 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Money. 969 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 4: I think at some point money ruined hip hop in 970 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: a certain way because it was about the culture. Like 971 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: you had to be nice, right, you couldn't just get in, 972 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: like you couldn't just go and and you know. 973 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: What, like the water hurt, what. 974 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 4: Traumatizing, water flowing flowing, so you knowing, you had to 975 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 4: have some kind of scale. If you came around with that, 976 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 4: you might get beat up and told to get out 977 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 4: of here, right, So you had to. 978 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: Have some kind of skill level. 979 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 4: But once the money got involved and everybody started making money, 980 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 4: and you saw death Row one hundred million dollar company, 981 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 4: you saw bad Boy one hundred million dollar company. You 982 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 4: saw Rockefeller a hundred million dollar company. You saw Rough 983 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 4: Riders one hundred million dollar company. Sooner or later it 984 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 4: transitioned into were just trying to move units, were just 985 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 4: trying to sell records. We're extremely now, so everybody you 986 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 4: know with Soldier Boy, which is another one of my 987 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: favorite interviews, every Drake. 988 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: Oh, then I found out that that was true. You 989 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: brought him. 990 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 6: So I remember being in New York. I forgot what 991 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 6: year it was, and you was going on a Soldier 992 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 6: Boy rant. 993 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 4: And back then after the first couple of records, I 994 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 4: just thought he was tracking. I just that a hot record. 995 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: But guess what else I missed out on? Y'all not 996 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: even gonna believe this, son, Mike Cott, say, y'all know 997 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 4: Mike cos Mike Kyser came to Hot ninety seven and 998 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 4: played get at Me Dog for men. 999 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: I said, it's the worst record I ever heard. 1000 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: Oh, you got it. 1001 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: I missed out on that. So I missed out on 1002 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: Big Drac o'toos. I apologize it. 1003 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 4: I missed out on I told you the CODs like man, 1004 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 4: you bucking, I'm like man, he barking. We already got 1005 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 4: a dog. We got snoop dog, Why we need another dog? 1006 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 4: And then he was the beat that it was that 1007 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 4: was used was the old knick knacked paddywack. 1008 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: Off it EBMD. I'm old school. You don't bite nobody 1009 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: else's beat. You don't use it again. 1010 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 4: And then we went to west Chester County for a 1011 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: hot ninety seven hot shot basketball team we had. 1012 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: And that DJ dropped that and them kids lost it. 1013 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 4: I was like, Ed, you was wrong. He was wrong 1014 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 4: on that one. What I think was gonna last? 1015 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 8: What other things did you miss out on that were 1016 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 8: like now they're like we look at the moments like, 1017 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 8: oh my god, like that you could have been a 1018 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 8: part of or could have been a first one. 1019 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 4: My daughter, my oldest daughter, Tiffany, I should choke the 1020 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 4: crap out of her. Lloyd Banks was in her home 1021 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 4: room class giving her the G Unit mixtapes before they 1022 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 4: was signed, and she never once said at their dad, 1023 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: here's this group called G Unit that's floating around A 1024 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 4: Fifth is from south side Jamaica queens. 1025 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: And but would you have done it back then? 1026 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: Because Fifth had beef with. 1027 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 4: Everybody squash the beef. I probably went to black duss 1028 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 4: it like yo, just man talk to preme. Man, we 1029 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 4: gotta stop this man. We gotta get this kid going. 1030 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 4: This kid you matter of fact, y'all need points, which 1031 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 4: y'all need. Yeah, my daughter, man, she did not tell 1032 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: me Banks was in her class, and hey go the 1033 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 4: crazy stuff. He went to August Martin. My daughter went 1034 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 4: to August Martin. Come to find out Banks moms was 1035 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 4: in my homeroom class at August Martin. 1036 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 2: Well, I've seen bake this last week was up the bank, shout. 1037 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: Out the banks. 1038 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 6: How was the game of boll since you started? And 1039 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 6: what changes and surprised you the most? 1040 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: I think the change that surprised me the most is 1041 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 4: we don't know how people getting paid from their music, 1042 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 4: you know, the streaming thing. I hear a lot about it, 1043 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 4: like this person streamed this many streams and I'm like, 1044 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: so how they getting paid? And then I saw a 1045 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 4: snoop complaining about he don't even know how he get paid. 1046 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: Off of his his stuff. 1047 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 4: I always thought that we would have hard copies of music, 1048 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 4: like it's easier to say this person sold, actually sold. 1049 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 4: This person is popular because they actually people go out 1050 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 4: and consume and bought and paid for it and took 1051 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 4: it with them and lived with it. Like when we 1052 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 4: get Rich and DoD Try and came out. We was 1053 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 4: running around the city trying to find somebody that had it. 1054 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 4: You couldn't find it in the record store. So I 1055 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 4: think what shocked me the most is the streaming and 1056 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 4: probably the lack of balance in him. The balance is 1057 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 4: not there. The love is gone, like you had even 1058 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 4: if we had even if we had kaya, right, we 1059 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 4: still had Latifah and light and salt and pepper, and 1060 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 4: it was always a balance if you if you had 1061 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: n w A, you had some conscience over there, right, yeah, right, yeah, 1062 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 4: quality that the. 1063 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: Balance is just is gone. 1064 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: Why do you think that is? 1065 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Some people say it's 1066 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: the record companies. I don't know. 1067 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 4: I just think it's what people think they need to 1068 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 4: do to get on nowadays. 1069 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 8: Because I feel like the conscious artists are there, but 1070 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 8: the controversy and like the other stuff breaks through. So 1071 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 8: we just they don't get the light, They don't get 1072 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 8: the you know what I mean? You got to be like 1073 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 8: a cult fan of someone who's conscious nowadays. 1074 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 5: Like J Coles, right, like J Cole breaks through though, 1075 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, he don't. 1076 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 4: They give the balance. Rhapsody is one of them. I've 1077 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: been telling people about Rhapsy five years ago. I love Rhapsody. 1078 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: She's she's the balance, the three T three D Nazis. 1079 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: I love that young lady. They give the balance. The 1080 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: Lola Brooks. I like Lola. 1081 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 4: There's a lot of young artists out there that I 1082 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 4: really like. But we need we need more. 1083 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: Of a balance. 1084 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 5: How do you feel about the new wave of music 1085 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 5: in New York that like Sexy Drill, it. 1086 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: Ain't for me, No, it ain't for me. 1087 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 4: You gotta understand what's for you, what's not for you? Right, 1088 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 4: And I get to a point now where I'm like. 1089 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's for them. If that's your vibe, that's 1090 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: your wave. 1091 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 4: Cool, because I remember when my father used to get 1092 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: at me about hip hop, like that's crap. 1093 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: That deep deep deep, dude, anybody can do that like that, 1094 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: it's music. Ain't music. So the way, I don't get 1095 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: in the way of the young artists coming up. 1096 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 4: Do your thing. God bless you. Y'all make a way 1097 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 4: more money than we ever made. 1098 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: So good. 1099 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 4: We opened the door for y'all. Go ahead, run through 1100 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 4: that door and keep the door open for the next generation, 1101 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 4: because y'all ain't gonna understand the next generation. I never 1102 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 4: thought i'd see to day. You know, when you see 1103 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 4: a cap, be like, who's jay Z? If jay Z 1104 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 4: wasn't a billionaire, they wouldn't know his. 1105 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 5: Music, You know what, people, I love you people. 1106 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 8: If it wasn't like some people know him as Beyonce's husband, 1107 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 8: they don't even know a lot of the stuff. I 1108 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 8: knows him as Beyonce's husband. I think that's crazy. 1109 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: That's insane. That is insane. Shout out to Beyonce to 1110 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: send me some of that new whiskey. You gotta come out. 1111 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: I drink burder Well tonight. 1112 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: In case tonight he's gonna be at s B's a 1113 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 2: Soob's what time tonight does it start? Get your tickets The. 1114 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 4: Clock seven o'clock. Ed Lover presents the live mixtape band. 1115 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 4: We rocked a straight hour and a half. It is 1116 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 4: New York, so we might do two hours tonight and. 1117 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: It's all good music. 1118 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: Come on out. 1119 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: It's date night. Bring your girl, ladies, bring your fellow. 1120 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: They have food there. It could be a ladies night out. 1121 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 2: They recreate some of the biggest records in hip hop 1122 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 2: and r and b at Love it does the rapping, 1123 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: they do the singing. So I can't wait till carry out. 1124 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 4: We got mister Shirtwick Brown Jr. On vocals, and we 1125 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 4: got a hell of a band, man, a bunch of 1126 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 4: really talented young cats. 1127 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 2: And we appreciate you for joining us this morning. 1128 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I appreciate y'all having me. Man, I'm 1129 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. 1130 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 6: Look at this absolutely listen. You wanted the icons who 1131 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 6: showed that we stand on right now. 1132 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,959 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man, And I always appreciated the fact 1133 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 4: that when Power one on five let me go and 1134 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 4: y'all came in, y'all never crapped on me. 1135 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 1: Man, And I really I appreciate. 1136 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 3: We want to do things that you did. 1137 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, trying to figure out to 1138 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: start something up. Now, what about the Breakfast Club? Man? 1139 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 4: Why are you about to like I'm command me and 1140 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 4: envy from the same hoods n I'll say, you ever 1141 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 4: heard the Breakfast Club say anything bad about me? 1142 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: No? Then I ain't gonna say nothing bad about the 1143 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. 1144 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 4: And I told y'all do what y'all do, man, and 1145 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 4: shout out to Jess and congratulations me and just did 1146 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 4: the essence last year together. 1147 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: She's a joy to work with. 1148 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 3: Man, we had to fight too many of your listeners 1149 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 3: when we first started. Oh man, i'm gonna tell you 1150 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 3: one of your. 1151 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 6: Biggest listeners who was on our head Warren sat on 1152 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 6: our wars, these young punks on. 1153 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 9: The when I first got the Power and we flipped 1154 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 9: Power from the R and B from jamming one on five, 1155 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 9: the Power one on five. 1156 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 4: That's the same calls I took that morning when we 1157 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 4: flipped the station. Where's such and such? Where's this person? 1158 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 4: Who's that I don't want to hear? No head Love 1159 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 4: and Doctor Drey on the radio. 1160 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 3: So it's full circle. 1161 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 1: Man shouts the sad thought. 1162 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well it's the breakfast Club is at Love? 1163 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 2: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. 1164 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club