WEBVTT - EARN YOUR LEISURE - Dish Battle

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome you all to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have earned

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<v Speaker 1>your Leisure in the building. I'm super super excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get a financial advisor, a shot belal and

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<v Speaker 1>educated Troy Millings together they deliver assets of reliabilities no

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<v Speaker 1>and university. Welcome y'all. We are super excited to have

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<v Speaker 1>you all today. Okay, so today on this this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we have two dishes. So at the end of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see which one did it better. Troy,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you start us off and tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>you're making and the ingredients. Yeah, so today I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be making a pizza bagel, not to be confused with

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<v Speaker 1>piece of toast, a little bit thinner on the bread. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I got my bagel here. I have

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<v Speaker 1>some tomato sauce obviously we have to have that, some

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<v Speaker 1>anzarella cheese, and to add some slavor, we've got a regino,

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<v Speaker 1>some basil, and of course a little pinch of golty

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like it's gonna be really really nice on flavoring,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like borderline professional pizza restaurant issues. We take

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<v Speaker 1>our pizza bagel serious and rest out. What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh tuna sandwich? We got wheat bread, whole wheat bread, um,

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<v Speaker 1>tuna mayonnaise, catch up and chips and chips? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know it's an interesting combination. I can explain

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<v Speaker 1>it if you want, or we can explain it later.

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<v Speaker 1>But how this all came about It up to you,

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<v Speaker 1>however you want to. Yeah, well, if you want, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have Troy start us off with making the pizza. And

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<v Speaker 1>then while he's starting off making the pizza, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to ask you when did catch up

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<v Speaker 1>and tun to make a marriage? Yeah? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>catch up is one of these things. But I use

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<v Speaker 1>whateverything like you know, and it's perfect blad. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I eat fish, I usually put catch up fried fish,

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<v Speaker 1>catch up in hot sauce. You know, if I'm doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do this as well. The other things I do

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<v Speaker 1>with fish sometimes is catch up in tattar sauce, but

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<v Speaker 1>catch up in mayonnaise is actually French dressing. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>French dressing. Yeah, I think it's French's umland, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's French. No, I'm not even want to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I know it because I actually did good will it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Thousand Islands. Okay, you know what, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he puts it in the oven. Will google whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>French or Thousand Islands. But it makes it already makes something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already something. So when you it's actually a good combination.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's not the normal taste that you would

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<v Speaker 1>have for tuner, so it kind of gives it a little,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, special edge to it. And then the chips

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<v Speaker 1>just add like that, you know, just push it over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. Oh okay, all right, well Troy, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you go ahead and start us off on the pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>Pizza bagel, pizza bagel. So the bagel is important, um

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<v Speaker 1>And because when I was younger, my mom used to

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<v Speaker 1>make pizza all the time, and so she had dope

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<v Speaker 1>and when I was home by myself, sometimes I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make pizza. So I had to find

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<v Speaker 1>anything I could use as my as my bread. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the week the white bread was too too salt

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<v Speaker 1>for the tomato sauce, so that didn't work. And then

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<v Speaker 1>try to use English muffins and they were too small.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hungry after so I said, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with the bagel. And so we started with the bagel.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously you got slices. It's been sliced nicely. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the first thing we're gonna put on top of

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<v Speaker 1>it is the tomato sauce. And so we got the

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<v Speaker 1>tomato sauce. Here, we got our spoon. And the spoon

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<v Speaker 1>is important because you want to spread this tomato seals

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<v Speaker 1>out evenly, all right, So I take a scoop or

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<v Speaker 1>the tomato sauce, put it on the bread, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at no point did you ever say, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what today, I want to have it on everything bagel?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it always playing? You know, I never tried it,

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<v Speaker 1>always playing, always playing, right. I was trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>it as close to my mom's pizza as possible, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only bagel she boughtt was playing or cinnamon raising,

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<v Speaker 1>So cinnamon raising pizza probably would have been great. You

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<v Speaker 1>never tried to never, we don't. We don't put raisins

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<v Speaker 1>and things in the Jamaican household. Well, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. I'm a little confused because you're Jamaican, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever seen my mom make a pizza. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is true. This is true. I've never seen my

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<v Speaker 1>mom makeup pizza. So she was great at making peace.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my mom is a great like she makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Um, pizza was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things like my friends would come over and eat it. It

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good. And so I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can't have hers, I'll have to make my own.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I didn't have dough, So I used the bagel,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said. And so you see how we we've

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<v Speaker 1>evenly spread this out. You see how good this looks?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So now it looks like a bloody bagel exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is important. Now now that we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the maato sauce consistently spread throughout, now we're gonna add

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<v Speaker 1>some some flavor. We're gonna put a little of regano, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just a pinch of it, just a little bit above

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<v Speaker 1>the tomato sauce. Because you know, I'm gonna show you

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gon show you on a sex So we

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<v Speaker 1>put a little bit here, a little bit there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to flood it out the flavor of

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<v Speaker 1>the tomato sauce. A little basil sprinkle that I should

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<v Speaker 1>do it like salt Bay. Just drop it right here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I mean, this looks restaurant, okay. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get another fresh spoon for my garlic. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people put garlic on top of the pizza

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<v Speaker 1>after I like to throw it inside the sauce so

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<v Speaker 1>to add a little bit of flavor, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really need it, all right, So you're a little pinch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fresh garlic. We're gonna spread this out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fresh. This is fresh, This is fresh. It

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<v Speaker 1>smells good. This smells good already. But you said you

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<v Speaker 1>usually mix it in the sauce. Yeah, well I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it now, uh time purposes. So it's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>smudged in all in here right now. Imagine doing this

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<v Speaker 1>like on English muffin, like I couldn't do this on

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<v Speaker 1>white red won't work, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry. So now we got our our sauces, we

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<v Speaker 1>got our flavor, and now, like I said, shredded cheese

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<v Speaker 1>is important. When I was growing up, that was my

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<v Speaker 1>job in the house. My mom was like, if she

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<v Speaker 1>was making macaroni and cheese, Troy shread the cheese. She's

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<v Speaker 1>making pizza, Troy shread the cheese. And now my wife

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. Anytime she's making something ZD lasagna. My job

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<v Speaker 1>is to shread the cheese. And so I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the bagel part because when you throw, you splash

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<v Speaker 1>the cheese on. It's important that it goes all over

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<v Speaker 1>the bagel, right, you gotta spread it all over. But

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<v Speaker 1>when it starts to go on the toast of oven,

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<v Speaker 1>that cheese melts and it goes inside of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the holding bagel. And so now as even more of

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<v Speaker 1>a cristals, follow the whole circle the circle. Follow the circle,

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<v Speaker 1>follow the circle, follow the circle, let it drip, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it melts, the cheese will be inside of the

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<v Speaker 1>hole in the bagel. And now it asks for a

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<v Speaker 1>crisp taste to it. I love it. Ye, prepare a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of one. Okay, yeah, while you prepare that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're sad yes, yes, yes, challenger to yes

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<v Speaker 1>seris key sorry said We're gonna start with the bread

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put the bread and the toaster. It's really easy.

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<v Speaker 1>He literally just placed it in put it down. I

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<v Speaker 1>usually put it like halfway through, so it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>highest is seven, So I got it on four. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want it to be burnt, well, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be too light either, so you just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta wait for the magic to happen. Patience is a

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<v Speaker 1>virtual So when I make tuna sandwiches, I mix the

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<v Speaker 1>mail with the tuna. I see on this sandwich. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to I'm just gonna put it on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially at that time. You know I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really that's probably a proper way to do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just scrambling, so I don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>time to like chef for our ideas, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>put it on top. I put it on top and

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<v Speaker 1>just rock out like a sauce. Okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna be different. Yeah yeah, when oh man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a minute, I eat tuna. I still eat tuna

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<v Speaker 1>um from time to time, but like me actually making

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<v Speaker 1>it like this probably making like a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>a year, to be honest, Like you know, when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just feel nostalgic when I'm at home and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing else to eat. Um, but I don't eat

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<v Speaker 1>it that often how I used to. So seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>is considered your broke this what was going on at

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<v Speaker 1>the time when you were meeting this for more than

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<v Speaker 1>nostalgic and once in a while. Um, I was in college,

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<v Speaker 1>so I used to go to University of Hawaii and

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<v Speaker 1>I played basketball, so I was on a scholarship. But

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<v Speaker 1>how the scholarship worked is that instead of like being

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<v Speaker 1>on a meal plan, I opted to just get the

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<v Speaker 1>money for the meal plan. So that was like probably

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousand mester and so long story short, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to I had to use that to food. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my mail planning with of course, you know you're in college,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're using that for more than just food, using

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<v Speaker 1>that to go to the club, using that to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just do whatever you wanted to do so by by clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I probably had probably like five hundred out of

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<v Speaker 1>that to spend on food. And I never cooked. I

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<v Speaker 1>was never you know, somebody that grew up cooking my

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<v Speaker 1>ool life. So I'm living by myself in an apartment

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<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii, so you weren't even living on campus. Nah

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<v Speaker 1>had apartment, so I had an off campus apartment so

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<v Speaker 1>U so yeah, so you know, it's like out of necessity.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like tuna fish and peanut butter and jelly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like the two easiest meals to make. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to have a culinary degree to make that.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, I just made it. And then every single

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<v Speaker 1>day for lunch, literally for a year, UM I would

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<v Speaker 1>make I would make two. That was my lunch every day. Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now you say Hawaii. Yeah. So I'm sure people hit

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<v Speaker 1>you with this all the time. You already know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna mention Barack somewhere. I wasn't going there,

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<v Speaker 1>but okay, um shout shout outs to Barack uh and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys actually didn't did you guys do something away?

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet, that's the answer. That's the answer. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a story about that. You could say it

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<v Speaker 1>right here on say it here please? All right? So

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to be making this? Go ahead, make

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<v Speaker 1>it so you got you got the actually putting the

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<v Speaker 1>tuna fish on the bread very important part to make

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<v Speaker 1>a sandwich. U. I probably should have did this the

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<v Speaker 1>other way on this bread, be kind to you. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're putting the tune, and like I said, this this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of these things you literally can make in

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes. That's another reason of while I was making it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, being a college student, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time you want to go. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you can actually make it in five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's making a whole going made dish. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>have time. I mean he's making I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>crew is gonna be upset. They don't get to ease

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<v Speaker 1>of that enough for everybody. You know, we put we

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<v Speaker 1>put the mayonnaise, put the mayonnaise on. You know, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you put a lot. Okay, cool, he put a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody that's listening to catch up on catch up in

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<v Speaker 1>Mayonnai's French dressing. We just learned. Oh yeah, we did

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<v Speaker 1>google everybody that this is bringing back memories actually and

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<v Speaker 1>then um, you would say the chips. I didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time, but this was something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like really really feeling survived this spoil yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like today I'm gonna live a little larger

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<v Speaker 1>and get those chips on. Little you put the chips

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<v Speaker 1>over there, add a little crunch to it. Add the

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<v Speaker 1>crunch children, and this is just like slice out of heaven. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>snice out of it? And yeah, deadly. I did this

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<v Speaker 1>every day for one year. So does it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that you were always financially conscious because you knew

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<v Speaker 1>to maximize the dollars. It wasn't really done out of

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<v Speaker 1>out of financial literacy. It was just done out of

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<v Speaker 1>I can't cook and I like tuna fish. I always

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<v Speaker 1>liked tuna fish. And it was just an easy mail

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<v Speaker 1>to make. So I like, you took the food credit

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<v Speaker 1>money instead of the food credit, right, yeah, So why

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<v Speaker 1>did you do? Well? You know, it's it's school food,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought like they got the best food anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, would you take a few nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody give you three thousand for semester? Would you take

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<v Speaker 1>that or would you take going to the dining room?

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<v Speaker 1>I would take the money exactly. So it's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you do with the money? Though? That was my

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<v Speaker 1>I was living on you know, So like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you maximized it. Yeah, whatever we need turned

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<v Speaker 1>into an acid. Whatever I needed to do. That was

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<v Speaker 1>like my that was like my salary. Okay, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really work. Yeah yeah, I ain't work. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. That was my salary that I

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<v Speaker 1>was met with money that you know, we just had

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<v Speaker 1>just to kind of do what that we wanted to. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're gonna pop those beautiful things and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can go ahead and finished cheffing it up. Very important

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<v Speaker 1>that the oven is preheated. So we got to hear

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<v Speaker 1>at three fifty. But oh I got my mentens. That

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<v Speaker 1>didn't prompt me, but I saw him here. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>this at home at class. So I hated school lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we both had that in common. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we ever eat school lunch. And so I took

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<v Speaker 1>every cooking class in high school that I could, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be my lunch all for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is you got to eat every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah slick. So growing up, you said there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of pizza in your house. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the things, at one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>So take me back to the time where you're sitting there,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mom's not home, what's going on? You're making these

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<v Speaker 1>pizza bagels what's going on in that environment. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my brothers are much older than you know.

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<v Speaker 1>My oldest brother is ten years old of me. My

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<v Speaker 1>other brother was in high school while I was in

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<v Speaker 1>middle school, and he was a middle school when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in elementary school. So I was came home for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents are working, and so I was just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. I'm like, I'm hungry. I hate Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I hated school lunch my entire life. So

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<v Speaker 1>in ementary school, I'm not eating school lunch. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>kid that's like my parents gave me money for lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting that in my pocket. Or I'm buying your

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<v Speaker 1>dipsy duels off you for fifty cents, and they gave

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<v Speaker 1>me three dollars every day. So I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I bought those. I'm surprised your mom wasn't making your lunches. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they was. They was working. They were out there, actually

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<v Speaker 1>left the house before I did. Yeah, So I was

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<v Speaker 1>like younger, but like I was walking to the bus stop,

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming home for everybody. And so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well I'm hungry. What am I gonna make?

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<v Speaker 1>There's no food that I didn't trust me warm stuff

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<v Speaker 1>up in the stove. Um, so many times you could,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eat like toasts when he came home with chips.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, all right, I know how to

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<v Speaker 1>make this. I know we got tomato sauce, I know

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<v Speaker 1>how the great at the She's all right, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>throw it on on some bread and make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as I got better with it, I started

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<v Speaker 1>going into spice cabinet like what can we put on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and so like that's why I started putting

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<v Speaker 1>the right no, no no basil, putting garlic. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>put the red pepper flakes on it because I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm just trying to figure it out. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, all right, I'm hungry. You gotta make something.

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<v Speaker 1>And that became one of those things. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>started making that and then when she would come home,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I'm like, yeah, I ate already, I'm good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we have you guys. Years later, one decides

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<v Speaker 1>financial advisor, another decides educated, Yes you can, Um, how

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<v Speaker 1>does that develop Troy to go into a financial financial advisory? Right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was into education. Yeah, So when I was fifteen, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a job at a camp in our community center,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I've been working with kids pretty much since

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<v Speaker 1>I was fift team. It was something that just came

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<v Speaker 1>natural to me. And um I went to school. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I told my dad I wanted to be I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a souf. I was like, my hands are great, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a good hand. My dad was like, I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>paying for you to go to school to being no

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<v Speaker 1>ma sus. So I was like, damn, that's not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wanted to go into physical therapy because

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<v Speaker 1>I also had a love for sports, like obsessive love

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<v Speaker 1>for sports. And so I knew I was gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>on the athletic scholarship, like I was kind of recreation

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to sports. Um, And so I went

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<v Speaker 1>to school. I was like, all right, I'm doing physical therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I started taking these science classes. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>what is this and um, I realized really quickly, like

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<v Speaker 1>this may not be the route for me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had interned at when I was in high school as

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<v Speaker 1>a physical therapist intern for six months. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most boring job. However, like I'm falling

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<v Speaker 1>asleep at my internship. I'm like, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was, you know, every party battle with that,

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<v Speaker 1>like what am I gonna do? I'm in college, now

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<v Speaker 1>what am I gonna do? And so I started thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a natural gift for working with kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I still love sports, and so I started teaching phys

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<v Speaker 1>that so yeah, because the two just came together. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was teaching and health education UH in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bronx in New York City, and I would watch my

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<v Speaker 1>my colleagues, the English teacher, the matth teacher, sociay science,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, yeah, this stuff is cool, but

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<v Speaker 1>the kids weren't grasping it. They didn't weren't really interested. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're not interested, you see behavior of the shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>So's like, they love coming to my class stuff. They

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<v Speaker 1>loved health because I was talking about the issues that

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<v Speaker 1>were they were facing. So I was like, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to teach them about things that they can learn about.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we had this opportunity to have this UH

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<v Speaker 1>internship program in the summer at the same community center

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<v Speaker 1>that was working at his fifteen and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to treat this six weeks of the summer

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<v Speaker 1>like the ten months of school that they didn't get.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's teach them everything that we can that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't learn in school. One of those topics was financial literacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at the time when we started I started

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<v Speaker 1>the program, he was starting his financial advising career. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this idea, we should teach financial literacy. Wants

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<v Speaker 1>you to be the face of it. You should come

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<v Speaker 1>in and teach. How do you guys meet them? We

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<v Speaker 1>went to new school again, we went to grew up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like best friends. Yeah. So I'm like, he's always like,

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<v Speaker 1>why should you go back to school? Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to schools. I'm like, I like working with kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like I'll do it. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reluctant to do it. Them, like, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn this, and like you could be the

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<v Speaker 1>face of it. Extens is you're you're starting this, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we started that um and they learned other things

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<v Speaker 1>like how to write a resume, how to interview, all

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<v Speaker 1>these like you who teaches you that? Nobody right, nobody exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and so financial literacy, it was like this is essential

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<v Speaker 1>because we were going to pay them at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the program. Like based on their performance into the

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<v Speaker 1>program when they went to their internships, how he performed

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<v Speaker 1>in the classroom, we pay the money, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we're gonna give them and pay the money

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<v Speaker 1>that they obviously earned. Let's teach them about the value

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<v Speaker 1>of money. Let's teach them how to save it, spend it,

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<v Speaker 1>share it, invested. Um. And so that's how it really started.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were teaching. I would write the lessons, he

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<v Speaker 1>would teach it, and then he started writing his own lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was learning from him. So he learned

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<v Speaker 1>how classroom management, lesson playing in I learned about finance

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<v Speaker 1>or something like. Now we're bouncing off from each other,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm learning from him, he's learning from me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll respect the fields and kind of grew from there. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. Why do you think financial literacy and I

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have an idea to the answer to

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<v Speaker 1>this question. But why do you think financial literacy still

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<v Speaker 1>isn't taught in schools? That's a great question. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting right when we think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all going to school to get a career that

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<v Speaker 1>does what pay us money? It's money, but nobody tells

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<v Speaker 1>us about the money. Um, and so I just had

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<v Speaker 1>when I sat down and thought about it, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever told you how to people responsible financially,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever told you how to be an entrepreneur,

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<v Speaker 1>who would be my worker unemployee? Right right? Who would

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<v Speaker 1>be the employees? And so if we're thinking from the

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<v Speaker 1>economic standpoint, like I need certain people to be employees,

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<v Speaker 1>I need certain people to be managers, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>I need people to work. And so if I told

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to be an entrepreneur, who would be doing the work?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I always look at school system in the

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial Revolution in the same light, right, Like the Industrial

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<v Speaker 1>Revolution was to create jobs in the communities that they

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<v Speaker 1>were in. Right, everybody came in at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody left at the same time, everybody had lunch at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, and there were bells to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>your shifts. And so if you think about school design,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the same way, you're walking at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear the bell, you go to your first period,

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<v Speaker 1>second period there, So it's the same system, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial Revolution was to create jobs. School is designed to

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<v Speaker 1>create workers. So I was thinking that the reason why,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope your pizza toast isn't burning. Actually, can

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<v Speaker 1>I put it on, fellow logan? The cheese has to

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of brown in it, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt that in in Rashan you could you

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<v Speaker 1>could stop me if you are, I'm curious to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion on this. I always felt like the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why schools didn't teach financial literas see was because, yes, school,

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<v Speaker 1>the school system wants you to is really training you

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<v Speaker 1>to work for somebody. But I think that student loans

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<v Speaker 1>are the only things that can't be removed from credit

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<v Speaker 1>report or one of the only things. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>two other things that you know that happened in and

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel like, to put kids through school and

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<v Speaker 1>then after school, what do you do? You sign them

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<v Speaker 1>up for student loans? Right, So, I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why financial literacy isn't taught in schools is because

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<v Speaker 1>right after they get out of school, they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to, for lack of better word, I feel premeditated predatory.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it could potentially fall into premeditated predatory landing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, I feel like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons why financial literacy is not to on school.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at like major institutions, they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really pushed for financial literacy to be to on school.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, people make money off of people's ignorance.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, as a credit card company, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily want your people to be extremely educated on how

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<v Speaker 1>credit actually works because it's gonna hurt your business. Like

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards, actually, credit cards wouldn't make money every single

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 1>person paid off their credit card every single month, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no balance. They make money off interest for people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay it off, right, So that goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>lack of financial understanding, literacy and not fully knowing the

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<v Speaker 1>system and how it actually works. So it's in their

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<v Speaker 1>best interest to you know, keep that system going and

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<v Speaker 1>where it is working. Um So, why why would they

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<v Speaker 1>you know go out of their way to advocate to

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<v Speaker 1>educate people to try to you know, hurt their bottom line,

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<v Speaker 1>hurt their revenue. And that's across the board. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at Wall Street, Wall Street makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money from uneducated people or people that just

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<v Speaker 1>blindly trust whoever they're investing, where it's not really in

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<v Speaker 1>their best interests to have people educated. And that's every

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<v Speaker 1>single interest. I could just you know, go down the

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<v Speaker 1>whole real estate everything. So I just feel that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of these things that has never

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<v Speaker 1>been pushed, and we have something that's already in place

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, okay, this is math, reading science, you know,

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the core curriculum, and you know, people just are reluctant

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<v Speaker 1>to change, and we just kind of accept things as

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<v Speaker 1>they are because it's the norm. It's been that way

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, and we don't really question it,

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<v Speaker 1>like why are we still learning about astrology that might

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<v Speaker 1>not be the best use of our time, or like

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<v Speaker 1>dissecting and frog might not be the best use of

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<v Speaker 1>our time if we're not going to be a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a surgeon or you know, study biology in college, which

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<v Speaker 1>very few people do. Financial literacy should probably be core

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<v Speaker 1>curriculum and that stuff can be an elector. So why

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<v Speaker 1>did you choose financial litter financial advisory? Um? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>never had a real job, Like I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be in business my whole life, and I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>could never work for anybody. I didn't really have the

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<v Speaker 1>temperament to actually, you know, conformed to a regular type

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<v Speaker 1>of job. So at the time, you know, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to play basketball, so that was my first goal was

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, play professional basketball, and that didn't work out.

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>So I came back home after college and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta kind of pickure something out. So I took

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<v Speaker 1>a job with an insurance company, commission based job, which

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>is relatively easy to get because you know, most people

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<v Speaker 1>in commission Jay's job, especially that that industry, don't make it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not it's not really hard to get hired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just hard to make it. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got hired, and um studied and took my securities license

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<v Speaker 1>and my life insurance license, life and health license, and

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<v Speaker 1>then um, yeah, I just felt like that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the easiest route for me to get in

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't study business in college. I didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>to like an Ivy League school, so I couldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>go and work on Wall Street and you know, working

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<v Speaker 1>like a marketing firm, I could have made like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars a year. That wasn't really appealing to me.

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, what's the best way that I could

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<v Speaker 1>make some substantial money? But you know, and my greet

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<v Speaker 1>my degree was a community cations degree, So just regular

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<v Speaker 1>like liberal arts degree from a state university. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that I feel like gonna get you too far.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was kind of how I saw my only

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<v Speaker 1>entry into the business world. And um, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>taken from there. So when it comes to me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>how I learned about my whole financial literacy struggle. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my first lesson I had my first company

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<v Speaker 1>when I was twenty one, and my first real lesson

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<v Speaker 1>was not paying taxes. And I got leans on everything

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that I owned, which wasn't much, but it still taught

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<v Speaker 1>me a very valuable lesson about profit and law statements,

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<v Speaker 1>paying taxes. You know, I know we're always jumping to

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<v Speaker 1>create like corporations, LLCs, C corps, es corps or what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. But you know a lot of people say,

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and start at LLC or a corporation,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's all these responsibilities that also come with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was young and and I got hit

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<v Speaker 1>that way. And then I think the second time, I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of my mentors was like, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>company is doing very well, but if your company dies tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>you're worth nothing. So you need to build that credit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know, the way I did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I bought a Range Rover. Okay, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, We're like a seventeen percent interest rate because

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<v Speaker 1>I think my credit was a zero at the time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was very upset about it because at that

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<v Speaker 1>point I started learning about it. So I was very ill, right.

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>But you know, my mentor at the time was like,

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<v Speaker 1>just take this one for the team, just to build

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<v Speaker 1>your credit and we could re refinance it or what

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<v Speaker 1>have you later. Um. But how what was your experiences

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<v Speaker 1>with financial literacy personally? Yeah, so min is early. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like you you know, especially in my in my house,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even talked about. We never talked about money.

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<v Speaker 1>And my parents, like I always say, like my dad

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<v Speaker 1>worked forty two years, but I couldn't tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>he did. I know he went to work on know

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<v Speaker 1>it was in Manhattan. I know it's an office building

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<v Speaker 1>and I visited a few times. But I couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly what he did. And so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>learn these things I had to learn from my peers.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to learn from myself. Um. And so like

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<v Speaker 1>most most people, uh, getting the credit card once you

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<v Speaker 1>get to school, you know, the first semester, you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>on the campus right in the cafeteria, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to come that. They're looking for their prey, right this

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<v Speaker 1>this financial prey, the financial prey. And so like students,

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>we have no money, some of us don't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, wait, I can get two hundred dollars, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to learn that very early. I would

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<v Speaker 1>spend it. I would use the two hundred. They were

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<v Speaker 1>increase it, I'll use it just fore up to a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand to a point. It was just like wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>is again? On it um? And then learning student loan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of people don't even realize what

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<v Speaker 1>it is until they get on campus, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why we had the program. Was like, let's teach

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>these kids early so they're prepared for the biggest financial decision.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>At seventeen eight years old. Nobody told us. I was like, wait,

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I can I can't go to school. Oh sign these papers?

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, you're gonna be my co signer? I had

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<v Speaker 1>no I did with all that? Man, what is fast for? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>the more money my parents made, the lesson I can give.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, all these lessons are happening in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to make these real decisions. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen years old. I'm like, all right, I guess until

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you start realizing weight the career I'm going after and

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the room that I owe, I'm not having gonna pay

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>this hole. And so those type of lessons happened really early.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously the credit card situation, it was like, Okay,

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 1>this is what this, this is what interest rates are right,

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this is what like you said again, taxes. I started

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<v Speaker 1>working when I was in school. Wait, I can't go

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<v Speaker 1>away to school, like, I don't think my parents can

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>afford this. I gotta make this decisions. I gotta stay home.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I gotta live here. I gotta figure out how I'm

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna get everywhere. I gotta buy a car, like wait,

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get car instruss, all these lessons that no

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>one's telling you about. I was just kind of learning

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<v Speaker 1>on the fly, like making these decisions, and like some

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<v Speaker 1>of them were poor, like the credit card when I

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>think it ran up. I started with two limit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got it up to like ten thousand, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I stopped using it, They're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you just because the interests kept growing and growing growing,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like I can't make the faments. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't And I was like, all right, now what I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot of misconceptions when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to credit cards used. You handled yours very well compared

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<v Speaker 1>to my first credit card, because you got to the

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<v Speaker 1>increased limit part. I was taught, like I think most

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<v Speaker 1>young people are taught well credit cards are use those

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<v Speaker 1>in case of emergencies. Now that I'm older, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that you guys are the assets over reliabilities crew,

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<v Speaker 1>which is my favorite discussion in my household. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it so much with my friends. They probably roll

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes when I'm on the phone with them and Okay,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>should go again. But when it comes to credit cards used, Okay,

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>assets versus liabilities? What is the best way to handle

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and look at your credit card? Yeah, thank god? We

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>should use it for things that you need to like gas,

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>bro freeze things that's like part of your your daily routine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then try to pay it off and fourth at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the month. That's the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>really go about it, because you know, using the credit

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>card on a consistent basis is gonna help you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help build your credit score. It's gonna help you

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<v Speaker 1>gain more credit um and it's something that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>need to build a credit history, credit profile, and credit

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<v Speaker 1>card is probably the easiest way to do that. So,

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, credit cards aren't bad. It's just a lot

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of times people use it for things that they don't

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>necessarily need, or they use it and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough money to pay it back. So it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to go to Miami. If you don't

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>have enough money, you just put it on the credit

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>card and just worry about it later. And it's like, okay,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the trip course and you're paying like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars onto every single month, that's when you fall

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>in the problems. So the best way to use a

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>credit card is you know, paid off at the end

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of the month and only use it for things that

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you actually need. But it is tempting because you know,

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>especially as your as your limit increases, you know, you

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>got you know, tens thousands of dollars in your pocket

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that you can really just do whatever you want with.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It becomes difficult to have, you know, discipline, so you

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely gotta stay focused. I had my older brother, uh

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<v Speaker 1>he he was the first one I've ever seen that

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>made money off credit cards, and I was like, oh, brother,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have a mad discipline to make money off

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>a credit card. But yet, credit cards can be assets

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>or they could be liabilities depending on how you use

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>them quickly. Right, Um, when it comes to predatory lending,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my biggest pet peeves, Like nothing irritates I

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>don't even get road range, but if I hear an

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>ad on the radio, that's like, Susie, I couldn't afford

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>my rent this month. Yeah, we have no money and

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>all our credit cards are maxed up? What do you

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think we should do? Well? They got fast paid call

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this number. Like literally, I like my brain cells exploding

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>my brain and I'm just like thoroughly frustrated, Like how

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>this is even legally able to be advertised on the radio.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>And then I also think the problem, Soothie and Tom,

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't that you need more money. The problem is your overhead,

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>your whole financial structure is clearly there's a lot going

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>on there. How do you feel about predatory lending in

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>those scenarios? Yeah, I mean it's definitely it's an issue,

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's something that, um, you know a lot of

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>people aren't even aware of it like that they actually

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't taken advantage of even if you look at like, uh,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>check cash in places, you know you pay, you pay

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>money just to actually get your money. And that's something

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that like, you know, when I had when I was

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>working as a counselor and I was a little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everybody we just go to the check hash

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>in place, and you think about it, but it was

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like we could have just opened a bank account and

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>depositive to checks and not have to pay any money.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Or you're paying five dollars out of a check that's

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars and you're not think about it at

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the time, but that adds up. And you never see

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>check cash in places in anywhere except for poor and

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>working class neighborhood. I've never seen a check cash in

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>place in Oriach neighborhood. So well, a lot of I

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>think two people go to check cash in places. Is

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>another lesson I had to learn the hard way. It's

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>check systems. Check systems is when you guys are familiar

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>where you over withdraw your bank account, or if you're

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>lucky like me, there's some body in the neighborhood that's

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>willing to say, oh, cash is checking your bank account

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and give me the money. And you know check systems.

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, once you end up in check systems, you

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.239
<v Speaker 1>can't open a bank account. And uh, A lot of

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>people fall prey to check systems because again miss mismanaging

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>money and they don't have the option to open a

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>bank account again, and then they're relying on predatory lending

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.479
<v Speaker 1>to move the needle forward. Yeah, that's why the education

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>piece is so important. It's so like imagine having it

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>at nine years old, ten years old, understanding that you

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, like, you're less likely to make

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>those mistakes as you get older that you're still gonna

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>make some mistakes, um, but you're less likely to write

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>when you know these things in place. So that's why

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it's important, Like anytime we get to be around youth,

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>tell them that, even around our own kids, Like when

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I go to the bank sometimes my son comes with

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>mean bills. He's with me. If I'm at a restaurant

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's was taxed, he's a lesson. So teaching them

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the lessons as early as possible was vitally important because yeah,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I seem like they understand it and they

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>don't get it, but they're at least familiar with the terms.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Yeah, I when I heard

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.919
<v Speaker 1>about Earn your Leisure. First of all, I'm a huge

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurship fan, huge financial literacies fans. So you could imagine

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>if I get frustrated over radio at how excited I

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>am about Earn your Leisure. I was extreme, Like we

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>have all different types of guests, but I was a

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>nervous and excited when I was like, oh, dare in town.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>We gotta get them. And then you guys actually gave

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>me some time out of your schedule. But what you

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>guys are doing has a huge ripple effect because I

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>think in the black community, you know, we talked about

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>having money, having cars, having jewelry, having all these nice things,

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>but nobody wants to talk about how to achieve those

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>things and break it down in a discipline. I say, since,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and you guys are not just reaching youth. Now, you

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>guys are reaching masses, and so your footprint is like

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>forever going to create a ripple effect. Now, generational wealth

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 1>is something that I feel like has impacted the Black community.

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Nobody really talks about. We talked about slavery, we talk

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>about Jim Crow, but we're not talking about generational wealth enough. Um,

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>how do you guys feel about the bank's responsibilities in

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the lack of general general the generational wealth in the

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 1>black community. It's important to understand our relationship with with banks.

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of the things we did with our communities.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Like we read a book called The Color of Money

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and explains about the history of of of Black America

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>kins and the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds about

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>how you know, we used to invest in the bank

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know the banquet invests in the railroad system,

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know we lost all our money in the

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>railroad system. So understanding the history before we even get

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to the present is important. Understanding the mistrust and so

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>understand where it came from. Um is important. But you know,

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the banks again, when we when we look at it,

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>we've been taught to put our money in the bank

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so we could save money. Put our money in the bank,

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>save money, put money in the bank, save money. What

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>they don't tell us is that when we put our

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>money in the bank, the bank actually uses it right.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>And so anytime like if you ever go to the

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.959
<v Speaker 1>bank and try to make a withdrawal for anything over

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>five dollars. If you if you have any account, they're

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you, oh, wait, we need a few days.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>We need a few days for us to clear that

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>type of money. And so you never wonder like, wait,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>why would they need that if this is the bank.

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>What they're doing is they're landing your money and make

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>can interest so for your money. And so rather than

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>telling especially in West Indians like Saves says they're saved.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>That's one route. But yeah, we should be investing as

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>well because we're probably gonna make more money in our investments.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Then we're all going to have in an interest that

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the bank's going to give us with the money that

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>we saved inside our accounts. And so understanding that the

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>mistrust from our history with the bank system for understanding

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>how we can use money and understand money to make

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>sure that we're taking advantage of it and having it

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>work for us rather than having the bank use it

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>so we can work for them. Yeah. So, but when

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it comes to black people and banks, I personally feel

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like the banks play a huge role and where we're

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>as a community. You know, I have neighbors on my

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 1>block that owned homes that were given their homes. Right

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>these are million dollar homes in Los Angeles, just gifted

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to them. We don't have those same opportunities because banks,

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, wouldn't lend to us. And then you have

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the issue and you guys have talked about this too.

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that bank you know in certain areas they're saying

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that the house is worth less or you know, the

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>prais of value or what have you. So do you

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>do you feel a little bit of something towards me?

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I personally think that they should play a role of reparations.

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's no system that hasn't played a

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.479
<v Speaker 1>part in that, Like, you know, even what you're talking about,

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>what the housing discrimination and the insurance companies played a

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>partner as well, because insurance companies went insured the homes

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and black neighborhoods, so that played a part. And then

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>even going back further than that with slavery, like insurance companies,

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them New York Life, a lot of

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>these companies got their start insuring slaves. Wall Street was

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the first commodity traded on Wall Street with slaves, So

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that's actually a slave marketplace where Wall Street is right now. Um,

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>so I mean, if you you you can't name anything American.

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>The whole American structure was built on racism. So if

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>racism is a dealbreaker, you just got to move outside

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the country. Because I feel like everybody is responsible for

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>or the the polite of black people in America, every

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>single every single industry. There's no industry that has not

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>taken advantage of it, from real estate to banks to

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>insurance companies. I mean, it's been documented. It's not even

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>like a secret. It's not like a conspiracy theory. Like

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>it's literally you could just google it and just find

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the information. It's right there, and everybody has benefited except

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>for the people that actually, you know, was the ones

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that got taken advantage of. So I feel like, you know,

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>now we're in a time and place where racism is

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>always gonna be there. Unfortunately, I just feel like that's

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>just in the fabric of this country. But you know,

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. We gotta, you know, move

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>around it and figure it out to the best of

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>all abilities. And the housing thing that personally that happened

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to me personally, So I spoke about that on one

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of our early episodes where my Homer praise for lessen it.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It was brought for right where everything around there to

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>praise higher. So like a ten year span, my house

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>actually devalued in the same neighborhood for other houses appreciative

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 1>value right, And so what's the answer to that number one?

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>How do I know? I mean it was it was

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a time current, so I had to get it done

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.240
<v Speaker 1>at a certain time. But I could have afford it

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 1>and got another appraisal and got another appraisal to my liking.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>The only things I didn't have time as an advantage.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>But nobody told me that I could fight the appraisal

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>or you know what I mean, to have somebody to

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>do an independent appraisal or use a different brain to

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>have an appraisal. But that's why the education point is

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>valuely important? Or are we educating people that look like

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>us to be appraisers. That's a different way to look, right,

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times the people who are praising

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>our homes don't look like us. Or I mean, I'm

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>one of those people that like break through the window,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but like maybe just have your white home girl be

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>their journals. Yeah, So that that was like I saw

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that that was there was a porter down on ABC

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>news where they took down the pictures they put a

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>white family up in the House of praise. But I

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>just show you what he said, right, if raised him

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a dealbreaker, we need to leave. So how

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>do we combat it? Be educated? You know what, I

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>don't agree with this appraisal. Let me go to another institution.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Let me get an independent appraisal. Let me fight this appraisal.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Right if you have the time and the amount the

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>need to do it, because I know, like s seven

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars he's trying to do it, but it might be

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>worth it if it's gonna put ten to a hundred

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>dollar dollars of value of equity back in your home.

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 1>And so knowing that going into the process is important,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 1>but also educating people, like we tell young people we

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.280
<v Speaker 1>need more representation. I haven't. I haven't had an appraisal

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>with somebody that looks like me. Well, yeah, so if

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you and I were about to play a game, right,

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know I historically cheat for years, Okay, you

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>either I feel as black people as a culture, we

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>either say okay, we know Johnny's gonna steal from us,

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that your response is like, you know

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>what prepared for the stealing. Prepared, you know, have your

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>your your backups and your backups and your backups. After

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. One of the things that hit me, or

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked by when it came to pandemic. And

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a smart I wouldn't say I'm like smart

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>education like college student wise, I'm a college dropout. But

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I was shocked, what was the bailouts.

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, Ship, you know I always tell

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>my friends, I'm like, reparations are gonna happen. I promise

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen one day, it's gonna happen. When the

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>bailouts happened, I said, oh, Ship, it's possible. Do you

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>think it's possible. It's always possible. I mean they're given

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars and ages to every every country all

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>over the world. You just name a country. Billion dollars here,

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars here, ten billion dollars here. So of

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.959
<v Speaker 1>course they printed, they print money whenever they want money.

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Why why do you think black people still haven't received it?

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like there's no there's no real need

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>for them to do it. There's no pressure, Like there's

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>no pressure on it. It's not going to make or

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>break the situation if they don't do it. Like it's

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>not something that is really like a political foreign to them.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just a noise in their ear. They don't really

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have any real pressure. Politicians only only respect pressure. So

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the Black Lives Matter movement, we

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of pressure uh from brand stepping up

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>either supporting black business, spending more money with black business.

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Even the Tabia from Revolts said that to spend for

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>black average for advertising on black networks increased. That pressure

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>was created from the George Floyd in the Black Lives Matter.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>What kind of pressure do you think we can realistically

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>do to apply that to the rest of the world

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to get reparations. I mean it comes down the unity.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You gotta first we have a united front. That's the

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>first thing. And then you know, you have to have

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a real political agenda where it's like, you know, it's

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 1>something that you a economics is extremely important. So it's like,

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you put money behind a politician and that

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>politician is kind of like indebted to you, and that's

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>what that's how politics really work. And you have to

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>be able to you know, withhold your vote or vote

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.479
<v Speaker 1>for vote for other parties. Like black people only vote

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>for Democratic Party. So if you only if of the

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>people is voting for the party, no matter what they do,

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you're still go vote for him. So it's not really

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>a pressure where it's like you used to take. Like

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community, they might be split fift They got

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>people that vote for the Republican, They got people that

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>vote for the Democrats, whatever the agenda is, whatever they want.

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not blinded on just one particular party.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's very dangerous when you just put all

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>your eggs in one basket. So you gotta spread, and

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta diversify in politics, and you gotta actually have unity,

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and you gotta have you know, something that you can

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>actually withhold where it's like, okay, if you're not gonna

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>do this for us, this is what we're not going

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to do for you, eat broke. So economics is always

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. If you don't have economics, then you

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>withhold the voter, or you vote for somebody else's you know,

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have all the answers, but that's something that

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. Until then, it's like you're not really in

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a point of negotiation. You're gonna negotiate if you have

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>some level of strength other than that just kind of

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>like begging and asking, Yeah, I think I have an

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>aligned and uniform these are wanting our needs, right like,

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and it has to be uniformed, like you said, like,

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we can't like I want this unified front. This is

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>why I wants in our needs and we're gonna withhold

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>from that if we don't get these things and being

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>educated in the space. Right Like, if people aren't informed

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>about politicians and politicians and elections and who they're going for,

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>they'll just vote for anybody. Oh I'm supposed to vote,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>so I vote vote today. You have no idea of

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>their gender, what they have planned for your community, even

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>on a local level, right, people aren't paying attention and

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>so they're not educating themselves in those areas, and so

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, how can we get anything done when

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't even know who you're going for? So it

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>starts there, but it has it has to be uniformed.

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Even like the Black Lives Matter situation and companies stepping

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>up for black businesses, right, it was a reaction to

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>something that happened. It wasn't like we're doing this because

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you said these yere wants to needs. It was like, okay,

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that was horrific. How can we answer that? Well, it

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just that it was horrific. It was like the

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>whole world had to come to a stop. There we

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>had to be no sports distractions. But there was already stopped,

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>so everybody saw it. Not it wasn't enough that there

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 1>was protests here in the United States. It became a

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>protest that was around the world, right, so that that

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 1>changed things. But even now it was like companies are

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:16.799
<v Speaker 1>saying they're going to do it, but we have to

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>figure out what have they done it? Have they support? Where?

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Where is the documentation that you know, what if you

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>said that you were going to put a hundred billion

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars towards black businesses, have you done it? Which where

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>are the businesses? And I saw this just clipped earlier.

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>It was it was interesting, like people keep talking about

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>support black businesses. It's bigger than support black businesses right

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 1>by in black businesses, bigger than support purchasing and help

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>them fund them, right you know, I mean because if

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't then we don't have our businesses and then

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>we can't come with an economic front, and we can't

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have lobbyists, and we can't have politicians to say, all right,

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>this is what If you don't do these things, we're

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>not voting. That's how change happens. So we're coming to

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 1>an end of this interview that I never want to end.

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Um and we gotta do taste tests. So Rashod and Stroy,

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna take this half off your plate. I'm

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>going to have you there. We cut this one a

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>lot better than that one, So go with this. This

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is neat Okay. So who are we going to try

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it first? Okay, So we're gonna go with Rashads first.

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>So we got the tuna sandwich with the male catchup

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and potato chips. Everybody on wheat bread here, very important,

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>elite level level, exactly elite. I love how he's advertising

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 1>how good his sandwiches when jasually not bad. I think

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the chips is what really said. I'm trying to get

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a bigger piece of chip right on the second bike.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I would have never thought catch

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>up on tuna. Nobody ever thinks of it. I'm not

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. I do think this is this is pretty

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>damn good. I think the chips I don't know, And

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>it could be the toasted Bresson's gonna be the first

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:11.919
<v Speaker 1>one in the in the cookbook. O what I made

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>this in the middle night? Bring memory, I've got to

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>play my palate. I will say that the only difference

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I would do there's maybe mixing the tuna. And that

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>was only because it's a little dry. Well you know

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>what we used to but I couldn't think of it.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>But I used to get this tuna. It was like

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>an oil based tuna. But I forgot the name of it.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>So if I was sending him to picture, I was

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to google the name of it. But and so

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that made the tune a lot more moist. And now

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that was like that was my secret source in the

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>whole situation. So a lot of well, I think a

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of the listeners know by now that I do shop.

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:00.919
<v Speaker 1>I did see your picture of the tuna with the oil.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if you were just saying, get this

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>brand tuna, but I could not find that brand with

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the oil. And I was like, I'm pretty sure this

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:13.720
<v Speaker 1>oil means something. But I was like brand or oil,

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and I chose brand but I'll give you a pass. Okay,

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a pass. Oil and oil is important

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>because it adds a whole different flavor to it. Here

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we go, Okay, here we go. I took a swig

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:34.439
<v Speaker 1>of water. Now it's Troy's pizza bagel. Here we go. Hmm,

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>my bread is too soft. I love how Rashad is

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>semi hating over He's like, okay, so I wish when

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you think I like that his brad was This brad

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>is pretty soft. Called my bagel a brand? I need

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a little I need a little function. Tell me about

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the flavor. Flavor wise great. I think if I hadn't

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>talked so much, we would have had more of the

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>melty cheese versus the you know, I was kind of

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to this whole melted cheese moment. Flavor wise,

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's great. What I eat again? Hell yeah, um, I've

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:32.280
<v Speaker 1>chased the garlic, the reg and old basil. It feels

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like a real pizza image. I put this on hearto bread.

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>That should have been a Jamaican part. I should have

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 1>used the heart o bread. I think both are good.

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Which one do you? What do you think? Well, you know,

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm partial to the tuner and and I'm actually handicapped

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in a situation because I didn't get the right ingredients

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>at the oil. But you know, that just brings back

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 1>so many memories for me, and this is good. It

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>tastes like school, Like school lunch is taking shots. So

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna end the debates for everyone listening.

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie. I preconceived thought the tuna was

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>absolutely going to suck that looking at it, it looked

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 1>like it was going to suck. Now Troy's looked like

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.240
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be amazing, and he was gonna stomp

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>all over the tuna. But Troy, don't kill me. It's okay,

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 1>But the tuna actually beat it. I just lost my my,

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>my tuna bagel. I want to apologize to his granda home.

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:46.319
<v Speaker 1>That teacher expectations. That's yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy because the pizza bagel is really good. But

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it could be the share shock that the tuna sand

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.479
<v Speaker 1>was going to be. They didn't you think the tuna

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.280
<v Speaker 1>sandwich was gonna be tryed, So when you saw the catchup,

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you know those two things. I don't even think I

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>got catch up in my fight. So I'm okay with

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that because I didn't have any absolutely amazing that the

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>catchup and the and that just come from years of

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>just trying different things. You know, life's about taking risk.

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But look, he's over here, like he got a belt

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 1>over this. So to close out, I did want to

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about a bunch more stuff, But to close out,

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I really want to challenge you guys, to put you

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>on the spot. You cannot walk away from this interview

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>without answering this question. Let's do it. If we had

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to choose a spokesperson, it goes back to representation, putting pressure.

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Who from our culture would you choose to represent us.

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's part of the problem with black

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 1>people is that we have my sire complex like we've

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 1>always been you know, we've been spoiled with leadership. As

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>my guy nineteen Key says, it's like when you think

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:59.720
<v Speaker 1>about black people, you think about strong leadership, from Malcolm

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>mag to Marcus Garvey to Muhammad Ali to Malcolm X.

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think, I said, yeah, So it's like

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>we've always had leadership. But the problem with malign on

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the leaders that it's too easy to to kill literally

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and figuratively kill one person and then when you cut

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the head off in the whole body, no false apartment.

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>When you think about like the Asian community, Um, can

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you name like twenty leaders? Can you name five leaders

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>in the last hundred years in the Asian community? No,

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but to play devil's advocate, I totally disagree. Hard to

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>go into debate on this because those men that you

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>named were able to move the needle forward. And and

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.280
<v Speaker 1>not only were they able to move the needle forward,

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys, the question is is who would you choose

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>as a spokesperson. Yeah, I think even that it's kind

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of tricky because the spokesperson comes with responsibilities leadership, and

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it comes with hate to people like to just you know,

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>tear somebody down when they reach out to point. I

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like we all should be leaders, and I feel like,

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, leadership starts at the household and and you know,

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 1>self responsibility of not relying. Even like me, I'm not

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>really into politics too much because I want to rely

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>on government or anybody. I feel like I have to

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>rely on myself and I feel like, you know, self

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 1>responsibility and self accountability is extremely important. Self accountability and

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>self responsibility is more important than leadership, more important than

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 1>a spokesperson. But as an entrepreneur, I'm one of those

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 1>believers that there's no one on my team that is

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>more important than the next. Whether the person is mopping

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the floor, taking the pictures, editing, or whoever, including me,

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>they are not, they are not, and no one's lease.

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>But I do know that my team won't run efficiently

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.359
<v Speaker 1>if there isn't a leader. No, I'm not, I'm not.

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not saying that I'm opposed to leadership

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 1>because I think that there. Of course, it's human nature

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that you always have to have some level of leadership.

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I just think the focus shouldn't be on leadership. I

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 1>think we focus too much leadership, like who's the next leader,

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Who's the next black leader, Who's going to be the spokesperson?

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>That will just come organically from people that will just

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>rise the cream on always rise to the top. But

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be the focus. The focus should be how

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>can we save our household? How can we build stromping families?

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>How can we support black businesses? How can we have

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 1>group economics? How can we educate ourselves? How can we

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>you know these are things? How can we become more

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 1>healthier even eating food, Like you know, these are things

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like diabetes and stuff that runs in our communities rampant.

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like the leadership is not a bad thing,

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>but I think we focus too much on that. It

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 1>goes back like even in the school system, right, My

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:40.919
<v Speaker 1>model was always like I was a physic teacher, right,

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I always tell people about the expectation. What

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 1>do you expect the physic that teacher, what do you

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>expect from them? Right? They could be the coach, athletic director.

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>My model was just like lead from when you are,

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Like lead from where you are, because what he's saying,

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of truth to it, right when we

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>see people rise to the top, and Barack Obama is

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a perfect example there. We saw how he was treated,

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 1>how they try to, you know, throw dirt on the

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>position because whoever he was. And what it does to

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a younger generation is they almost look at it like

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 1>why would I want to be that? Why would I

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 1>want to aspire to be that? If that comes with it.

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that it's not obviously a very very

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>important job that comes through a lot of responsibilities. It's like,

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:18.839
<v Speaker 1>if that's going to happen when I get there, Why

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>would I want to be there? This match is so

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 1>important because it's like, who is the leader of especially

0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 1>in our space, who's the leader of financial literacy? You

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know who the leader is. What's more important is

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the education that they're getting. Right. So if any day

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>that we stopped doing earner leisure, right, you've gotten so

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 1>much information that you can lead your community. She's got

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>so much information that she can lead her community. So

0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>does he, And so you don't really have a leader,

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a You built a community of leaders that

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>can actually execute on information and pass it onto the

0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>next generation. Because what the men and women that he mentioned,

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 1>they are vitally important to the black excellence that that

0:56:56.400 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we're allowed to continue, right, But when they died, was

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<v Speaker 1>their mission continue to the the way they saw it?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. All we know is what they laid

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<v Speaker 1>out for us and what we need to add to

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it to continue and in the excellence that was stow before.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like, all right, let let's just keep

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>doing we're doing eve from where we are and and

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 1>turn everybody around. This will get the information and if

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no us, the information education will always do on. Okay, well,

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys put me in a position I definitely disagree, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I only disagree, and I have nothing but love

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>for you guys, UM, because you guys play such a

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal role in our community culturalized black, white brown. It

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter because you're talking financial literacy and we

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>all need help, and you're talking education. We all need

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that guidance. When I think about reparations. MLK is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a couple people that I think

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<v Speaker 1>on my favorite people on the planets, like Jesus, John

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the Baptist. Martin Luther King is like, you know, if

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>he was like, like who you could have something with?

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Like just put these three people. I'm cool, you know.

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like all three would accept me pretty fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But I still think that a spokesperson is needed,

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<v Speaker 1>someone that could speak both languages. And I'm gonna throw

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:25.479
<v Speaker 1>my spokesperson. Okay, what does she want to know? Don't

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to know who it is? How about can

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I ask you this? So if we're talking about MLK

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<v Speaker 1>and his vision, his dream for economic empowerment, is it

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<v Speaker 1>being fulfilled in this president day? Yes and no? Yes

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<v Speaker 1>and no and only no. Because you know, well, let

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this, what's more beneficial one powerful spokesperson

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>or thirty five billionaires. It doesn't have to be either.

0:58:58.360 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be either or like one does

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<v Speaker 1>in the gate the other. Like like I said when

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<v Speaker 1>I said the whole thing about a team, like my

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<v Speaker 1>team is equal to me. There will always be equal

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to me. If anything happened to my team members, we

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 1>talked about it all day, I'll be crying about it whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it doesn't negate. You understand, like one doesn't

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>negate the other does. There is there is a need

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<v Speaker 1>for a role what what what group do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like is successful? And like what ethnic group do you

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a successful example that somebody can follow

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>in America or that has a clear leader? No, no, no,

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it's almost almost just say the thing you're not supposed

0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to say. I think white people just I mean they

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>did an white people. That's a that's a broad term.

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>So like I'm saying, like, like an ethnic I hate

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<v Speaker 1>the word about like minority. What ethnic minority would you say?

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>This is people that can be duplicate, Like this is

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>something that's an example to to try to duplicate or

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they've done well, and this is something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can try to take some different parts of what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done. By example of spokesperson group like a group,

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<v Speaker 1>I think black people are the motherfucking m v ps.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think we're the m v ps, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>were so resilient, we've broken barrier after barrier. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say black people is the second. Now I appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying from my standpoint, I look at

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<v Speaker 1>it like, all right, we know that Asians probably make

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<v Speaker 1>the most amount, and that's kind of a broad term.

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<v Speaker 1>But like let's say like the Asian community, Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>the Indian community, Let's say the Jewish community, Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican community. Let's let's use all of these different communities. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Who who's a leader in any one of those communities? Who, like,

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<v Speaker 1>name one person that's like, this is the leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community, This is the leader of the Chinese community.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the leader of the Filipino community, This is

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<v Speaker 1>the leader because all of them are light years ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of us economically, but they're but they're only there because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the hurdles. But I understand that. But

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<v Speaker 1>with look my whole thing is is you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for help for people that hurt you. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional relationship. It's like being in a relationship with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is abusive to you, and after four hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking this is gonna be there, that they change

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. You got to accept them like this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not. I don't think racism is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere exactly, but I think I think a game

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<v Speaker 1>is still meant to be played, is always meant to

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<v Speaker 1>play to win or lose. But I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>a place where you can play fairly, Like you can

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<v Speaker 1>say no more rigging the game. But what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is that that's not Life doesn't work based off of fairness.

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<v Speaker 1>Life based off of strength and power. So what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is that we're trying to play a fair game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be fair. We're gonna have this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years from now. So how do we work together

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<v Speaker 1>group economics? Grow have enough money where now we can

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<v Speaker 1>tilt the skills ourselves. It doesn't have to be one person.

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<v Speaker 1>But now if you've got a group of people, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's worth two billions, he's worked, four billion he's worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we all work together collectively. Now we can

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<v Speaker 1>put pressure, economic pressure on the situation. Now that changes

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamic as opposed to having one eloquent speaker, because

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, we've had great speakers, we've had great leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't really helped, though I agree to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, to a certain degree. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have that one person, like I said, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>those leaders pretty much everybody that his name being killed

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<v Speaker 1>right now, who's next? Because it's the dysfunction amongst the rings,

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<v Speaker 1>like I should be the next person or you should

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<v Speaker 1>be the next person, and then it'll be the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why if you if you spread it out like

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be great at this, like you, you'll leading necks.

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<v Speaker 1>If we all come together with that form of leadership

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody leads and take self accountability like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>in responsibility, If everybody leads from where they are, now

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<v Speaker 1>you have a united front. That's different. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we still have a president in a free country, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think leadership is you still need a spokesperson. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we we got agree to No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you see the thing about your leisure and organizations like you,

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<v Speaker 1>and foundations like you, and universities like you, and podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>like you and events that everything that you're doing, you're

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<v Speaker 1>representing leadership in our community. That, like I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>ripple effect is never ending. I can't be more appreciative

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<v Speaker 1>for what you guys do for appreciation, I'm just all

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that has access to you, I think is just

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<v Speaker 1>forever should be grateful for you. Guys. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a spokesperson you so you want to know you don't know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw it back to my favorite artists of

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<v Speaker 1>all times. Definitely not Kanye, but I do love Kanye.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know his interviews going up. It's jay Z all day.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like I like j for a multitude of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He speaks both languages, the way he his perspective is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he can be in the room with the whites, black,

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<v Speaker 1>su Puerto Ricans, whoever. Um. I think he speaks both

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<v Speaker 1>languages and his perspective death is there um. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he uses his power two to bridge the gap,

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<v Speaker 1>bridge the hatred, you know, even what he did with

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL and all that. So if I had to

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<v Speaker 1>choose someone that like within range, it doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 1>your typical prospect, but I would say I would choose him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, jay Z definitely. You know, he's an

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<v Speaker 1>portant person. He's not really an outspoken person, though he

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<v Speaker 1>does most of his stuff behind the scenes. He's more

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<v Speaker 1>of an int So I don't know if he would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good spokesperson because he don't likes to speech,

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<v Speaker 1>But a spokesperson could be the person that does the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, like I traditionally like being the face

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<v Speaker 1>of my brand. This is the first time I ever

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<v Speaker 1>said I want to be the face of my brand.

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<v Speaker 1>But whether you making power plays or not, like he's he,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he has the power. Like we collectively

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<v Speaker 1>as a community or making most we're everybody in their

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<v Speaker 1>own community. There's always somebody that's trying to impact and

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<v Speaker 1>move the needle for it, and that's why we've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get as far as we happen. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I think a spokesperson, I think Jay could handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just because you only my favorite artists

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<v Speaker 1>somethings partly, but but truth be told, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched the way he moved, and there's been plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of times, not only even with his records, where I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like and it later been like, see Shot, that's

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorite artists as well. So, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm not gonna get a spokesperson out of you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried really hard. I tried really hard, But thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming out, feeding me and feeding

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<v Speaker 1>the team. I enjoyed the tuna sandwich and the bagel

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<v Speaker 1>pizza and now officially know how to make pizza. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys, Thank you, thank you for having appreciate it.

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