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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio and guys Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: in the past, and I think Dave and I would

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Speaker 1: st WBC Mortgage Studios completely agreed. We did not win.

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Speaker 1: We did not win. Why is that? Being at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl's fun? It was fun. I'm not allowed to

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Speaker 1: go anymore. I'm sorry. They say I got too important.

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Speaker 1: You're a radio big shot. Yeah they can't. They can't

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Speaker 1: KT snuck off that one year and drove yourselves. I

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Speaker 1: used vacation days. Yeah, I had to use vacation days

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Speaker 1: to go balls at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to go. That just means you're committed to your craft.

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Speaker 1: We checked into our hotel room at a three am, okay,

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Speaker 1: And we walked right down. We're like, um, our room's

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Speaker 1: not great weather, really good football players though, yes, yeah

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Speaker 1: the mobile dream Yeah, good food food. I'm jealous. You

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Speaker 1: guys got to watch Denzel Mims run route in person,

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Speaker 1: and I know we only played like two hours down

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Speaker 1: earlier this year. Yeah, well, shots fired at kat. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to a lot of Baylor game. You know

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Speaker 1: what's really funny is Denzel Mims seems like he stole

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Speaker 1: a lot of people's hearts, which I mean he's got

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Speaker 1: he's got the tape to go with it, obviously, but

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people were talking about him at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and I think it just goes to

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Speaker 1: show how loaded this receiver classes that I watched all

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Speaker 1: three days of practices and I was taken with about

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Speaker 1: three or four other guys before Mems was even on

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Speaker 1: my radar. Well, I liked Mims's tape already at Baylor,

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Speaker 1: so I was kind of like, okay, what everyone saw

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Speaker 1: so now he's everyone's sweetheart. I liked him from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and I liked him so much that he's my thirteenth

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Speaker 1: up this receiver class like I thought. I thought kJ

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Speaker 1: say that was good enough? Katie, This is exactly yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well you just wanted to hear yourself say shut up.

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Speaker 1: watch him play, he runs stop routes, slant routes, and

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Speaker 1: Jeff has three draft scenarios, which we've gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions about this, so like it's well timed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: at before. We gonna be exciting before we do that, though,

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Speaker 1: But was there anything else from Senior Bowl that jumped

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Speaker 1: a lot of this. That's I mean, you can, you can.

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Speaker 1: It's not quite as good as being at lad People's Stadium, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you can follow the Senior Bowl better than ever

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Speaker 1: before at this point. Got a pretty good hunk of

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Speaker 1: Dayton tape that came in during during Senior Bowl week,

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Speaker 1: our secret secret underground tunnel that we that we got

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Speaker 1: this is a perfect segue because it's something I've been

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Speaker 1: is obviously Kyle Dugger, the lenor Ryan Safety. Everybody's in

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Speaker 1: to ask we continue to talk about these teams trading

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Speaker 1: up for a quarterback at number one, but do you

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Speaker 1: think there would be a team to trade up to

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Speaker 1: get Chase Young at number one seems like a game changer.

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Speaker 1: I think we all agree with that one. But is

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Speaker 1: there a chance that maybe the Bengals, of course, a

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Speaker 1: team that I feel like you wouldn't have to go

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Speaker 1: to number one in order to get Chase you trade

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Speaker 1: up to two because the Bengals are pretty probably I

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Speaker 1: mean we could go ahead and say it. I think

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Speaker 1: they're probably locked in on that pick. But then again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you never know. You never know the size

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Speaker 1: of a deal that somebody's willing to put together. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if somebody offers them what the Rams gave to get

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, would they turn it down? They probably should,

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Speaker 1: but would they? And it's the it's the Redskins picking

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Speaker 1: it two. So that brings a whole another level of

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Speaker 1: unpredictability because you have a new head coach. Ron Rivero's

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Speaker 1: defensive mind did have a hard time if he has

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Speaker 1: any say of him going, oh no, no, we're taking

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Speaker 1: Chase Young. We're not doing any trading. But you never

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Speaker 1: know who's running things in Washington, so like you never

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Speaker 1: know what's happening there. So it could be if Washington

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Speaker 1: thinks they're not close. They could make a trade. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe Chase Young is for sell Let's let's entertain that option.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Washington is willing to make a trade. What

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Speaker 1: kind of team would have won the package to put

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Speaker 1: together for a trade for Chase Young and two would

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Speaker 1: be willing enough to do so? Miami, But that makes

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Speaker 1: no sense because they need to rebuild an entire roster.

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Speaker 1: S three first round pick. Yeah, so you've got ammunition.

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Speaker 1: But they I think they would be crazy because they

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Speaker 1: just they need so much. They need basically an entire

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Speaker 1: roster on purpose, So to mortgage a lot to go

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Speaker 1: get a single player. Just I feel bad for them

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Speaker 1: because they tried to go. Oh in sixteen, the front

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Speaker 1: office did Yeah, Now, the players and Brian Flores did not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like and when they made the trade for when they

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Speaker 1: traded making Fitzpatrick and the Steelers didn't have Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think they thought that pick was gonna be? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think they thought they were gonna have the first

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Speaker 1: pick and another top ten pick, and it turns into

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Speaker 1: five and eighteen Hodges and Mason Rudolphs a couple of wins,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the Dolphins, you know, at five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. I think the Jaguars, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're planning on, but they have the ninth

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Speaker 1: and the twentieth pick, and then put those together sweeten

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Speaker 1: it up a little bit. They could get up to

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Speaker 1: two and get a game changer right there. But I

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Speaker 1: don't see the Redskins trading out of number two. And

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Speaker 1: you positive. I am positive that it's happened. But I

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Speaker 1: can't think, like, when was the last time somebody did

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Speaker 1: that bold of a trade for a non quarterback? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, like, okay, I mean that's a great answer.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a huge It was somewhat bold

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Speaker 1: when the Buffalo Cleveland trade for Sammy Watkins, but that

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Speaker 1: was going up from like pick nine to pick four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a five pick jump. Yeah, the Julio one's good.

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Speaker 1: But even what the Falcons jumped from like the teens

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Speaker 1: to five, I think it was something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly where they were the Cowboys for

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Speaker 1: I was about to say Claiborne might be in the

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Speaker 1: Good One conversation. I think I mean, to jump up

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Speaker 1: to two, you would probably have to do something a

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Speaker 1: little crazier than what the Cowboys gave up for Mo though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, that was

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Speaker 1: just one pick. The Cowboys to get to two would

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Speaker 1: have to give up on the Cowboy two more one,

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Speaker 1: maybe three more ones because you don't know where they'll be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I know that his question, um was about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Chase Young. But if someone's trading up to number two,

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Speaker 1: they're trading up for number two to get either two

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Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow. They're not trading up to get Chase Young.

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Speaker 1: You think it's out of the question. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: just they the Falcons gave up a boatload for Julio Jones,

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Speaker 1: he plays receiver. I mean, I don't think it's out

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Speaker 1: of the question. But but it's but we don't. You

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Speaker 1: don't see it often. Yeah, really exactly. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I think that's why if that picks for self

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Speaker 1: for Washington's for a quarterback and not Chase Young, that

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Speaker 1: would I think Washington would just take the player. It

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Speaker 1: would be pretty Bengals E I feel like to take

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Speaker 1: Chase Young. Wait, I mean, like, well, I feel like

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Speaker 1: the three would probably be more inclined to make a

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Speaker 1: trade like that to have somebody go up for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit would probably be the better team in

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Speaker 1: order to do the true bisky deal that the Bears did.

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Speaker 1: Get up and make sure that you get the guy.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta traded five picks to the Browns to make that trade. Guys,

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Speaker 1: the Redskins are not the most savvy front office. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think they'll probably just sit there and

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Speaker 1: take the player. I don't know how much trade dangling

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Speaker 1: and that is savvy. That's savvy. Just take your play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got freaking three months of airtime to fill. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk absolutely No, I'm with how bad would the

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Speaker 1: quarterback class have to be for you to take a

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Speaker 1: defensive end even though you need a quarterback? Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't That doesn't jive well at all. It have to

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Speaker 1: be pretty, really really bad quarterback class. Uh. Next question

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Speaker 1: comes from just for this on Twitter, and it says,

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Speaker 1: because we have not discussed this so far, so are bad?

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Speaker 1: Could the Cowboys go tight end at pick number seventeen?

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Speaker 1: And even if that were an option, is there somebody

581
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Speaker 1: there well the pick? That's I just I just don't

582
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Speaker 1: think the tight end class is that good. I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's good at up top. I think

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Speaker 1: that's it's harsh to say it's not good because because

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Speaker 1: Harrison Bryant, he really stood out in mobile, Cole Comet,

586
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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame, Guy Um Troutman. However you feel about FCS,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. I think Pinkney he wasn't as

588
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Speaker 1: impressive in mobile as out of Preferred or yeah he did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he looked amazing and mobile. But he's

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Speaker 1: still you know, you could draft him, you know, probably,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where would you draft him slate second

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Speaker 1: I think he's now I'm thinking, I mean, look, there's

593
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams like people are absolutely enamored with

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Speaker 1: my guy Thaddius Moss out of LSU. Maybe a little

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Speaker 1: more than the warranted can run, Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He's a big body. He can probably block

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Speaker 1: a little bit. He can catch. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: if he can run. He's a willing blocker. He's got

599
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Speaker 1: great hands. I don't think he's like elite fast, but

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Speaker 1: how fast you need to be to be a tight end.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a feeling therefore, I'm looking for Vernon Davis

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Speaker 1: for okay cool second day, I think there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a tight end taken for the first time. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna start a string of tight ends like

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Speaker 1: and I think in the middle of the third round,

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Speaker 1: in fourth round, you're gonna see the majority of the

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: top end tight ends go pretty quickly. I think I

608
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Speaker 1: would be surprised if a tight end gets drafted in

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Speaker 1: the first round. I would absolutely And that's with all

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Speaker 1: due respect to Jason Witten. It just reminds me of

611
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Speaker 1: how loaded the tight end class was last year, and

612
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Speaker 1: you could have gotten yourself a really badass one with

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Speaker 1: you know, your with your second round pick if you'd

614
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Speaker 1: or even your third round pick. Honestly, well, and also

615
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Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit last week, but

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Speaker 1: those teams that are in dire need of a tight end,

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Speaker 1: there's some tight ends in free agency that are available

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Speaker 1: that could potentially be bigger than more more valuable than

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Speaker 1: using first round pick for Jason Witten. There you go.

620
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Speaker 1: Eric Ebron was more of the name that I was

621
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Speaker 1: thinking of. I'm only for a ten end or a

622
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Speaker 1: tight end. Coach a tight end. Okay, they got a coach,

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Speaker 1: a tight coach, do yeah, next question, mister Vallejos on

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Speaker 1: Twitter says, are there any quarterbacks in free agency that

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Speaker 1: a top teen team would pursue instead of drafting one

626
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Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks? And how could that affect us? At seventeen?

627
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Speaker 1: There's a million free agent quarterbacks. It's just a matter

628
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Speaker 1: of whether you think any of them are gonna like

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Speaker 1: move to new teams. I mean, technically, Drew Brees, Tom

630
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Speaker 1: Brady and Philip Rivers and Jamis Winston are all free agents, Like,

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Speaker 1: are any two of those four possibly moving? Are any?

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Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like Philip Rivers is moving. Yeah,

633
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is moving for sure, But Philip Rivers is

634
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Speaker 1: also washed? He is, yeah, I mean he's he's forty

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Speaker 1: If you're signing him to a stop gap and interest

636
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Speaker 1: gonna win games with both of them though, It'll be

637
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: a good team, But wouldn't you would you rather have?

638
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not signing those guys aren't signing with

639
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: a bad team at this stage in their career, Like

640
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: those guys are ring chasing at this Also, guys like

641
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Jamis Mariota. What's Carolina going to do? I think the

642
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: biggest question mark in terms of like affecting the draft

643
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: order and stuff like that is probably Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah,

644
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: he's He's been a backup for the last four years.

645
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: He played very well for the Saints when they lost

646
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I assume he's going to go after a

647
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: starting gig in free agency. I would be surprised if

648
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: he wants to sit for another year. This is his

649
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: prime money making time. I wonder, is that's what I'm saying,

650
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: because I would I would rather have Justin Herbert to

651
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: a burrow. Heck, even I was all, yes, how are

652
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: any of them? How many of these how many of

653
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: those these rookie quarterbacks? Are you ready to plug in

654
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: on day one? Um? I don't really know yet. I

655
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: guess the point is that if I were to bring

656
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater in, I think that I just intentionally got

657
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: an average at best quarterback. And to me, that's a

658
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: weird plan. Bengal's not close. Redskins not close. The lines

659
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: will get Stafford back, but they could still potentially draft

660
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Giants, we feel like they're probably not close,

661
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: right we all did there? Dolphins not close Chargers without

662
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Now they could do something interesting they like,

663
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe they try to pick up a cam Newton or

664
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: see if they can revitalize Jamis and whatever be the Chargers.

665
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: The Chargers pick in the top ten, one of these

666
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: guys is going to be a stop gap, like Mariota

667
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: or Winston is gonna or I doubt it would be

668
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater because I think he's got enough clout that

669
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: he could ask for a bigger deal. But one of

670
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: these guys is going to sign a one to three

671
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: year deal for a team that winds up drafting a quarterback.

672
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: That just seems logical to me. Send the old Jacoby

673
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Brissette deal and yeah, moving on Mario to be in

674
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: that guy. The cults are another one for that man

675
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: that there. They came right out and said they're not

676
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: sold on Jacoby Brissettes should be. Yeah. But to answer

677
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: my own question, like I think like Burrow and Herbert

678
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: are the only dudes in this class that I would

679
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: feel comfortable right now saying like if he's your starter

680
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: week one, that about healthy. Two is not healthy, and

681
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't expect well he should be to start the season, right. Question,

682
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: I need to follow that and see it with my

683
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: own eyes before I'm ready to just say it's gonna happen.

684
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Can he play with the walker? Seriously? I think so

685
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's that's your hip man. You need

686
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: that to do everything in football, but also to play

687
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: quarterback and of hip injuries. My pet cat a Meek

688
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Robertson UM Louisiana Tech, the small cornerback. That is your

689
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: pet cat, my guy. I believe he had fourteen interceptions

690
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: in the last three years. My tiny cornerback who plays

691
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: on the outside like a tough just a tough dude. Well,

692
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: it was a lot of Tech bulldogs, so he's a bulldog.

693
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: A little bit of a hip injury, and yeah, that's

694
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: thanks for the episode in the Rumblins. It's not you

695
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: heard gonna be a problems. I think it's out there. Okay,

696
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: I think it's bad. Let's go to Justin Reid and

697
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Justin ask the safe from Houston. Simmons no great player,

698
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah Simmons, someone the Cowboys could look to

699
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: play safety. And if he Paul's falls passin, could we

700
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: move up again? I would That is a guy who

701
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: if for some reason he started falling. I mean kind

702
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: of not saying they're similar players, but like like remember

703
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: Derwin James two years ago. You didn't expect him to

704
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: be there past like pick eight. All of a sudden

705
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: he's there a pick sixteen and seventeen. Hell yeah, i'd

706
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: be interested, be great. So you talk about maybe he

707
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: falls to ten the Browns. Then you've got eleven Jets,

708
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: twelve Raiders, thirteen Colts. Could you make a deal with

709
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: those teams. I'm not giving up my second round pick

710
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: to move up to get anyone, not even even Simmons

711
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: a badass that night. Maybe Chase Young, you Chase Young.

712
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You're drafting scared my new thing.

713
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at seventeen and I'm gonna if I'm if

714
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: I need a safety, I'll just take Delpit. I'll be happy.

715
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: Oh you're get scared, kat. So we're gonna give up

716
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: picks when we don't have a lot of cap room here,

717
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna give up some picks. We're gonna blow out

718
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: the minimum wage players. I know I can get somebody

719
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: in the second. You'll get that done, going from seventeen

720
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: to let's say eleven, to the gentle because I just

721
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: don't need probably not on the trade chart. But man,

722
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: if you if I told you which obviously the hope.

723
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: The hope is that pick fifty one can help you

724
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: and be good right away. But let's be honest, if

725
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: the if the Cowboys have a bugaboo in recent years,

726
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: it's probably the second round. Tristan Hill is coming off

727
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: a very disappointing season. Jalen Smith needed a year to

728
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: get himself right. Connor Williams was fine as a rookie.

729
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: He certainly didn't blow anybody away. Cheeto was okay as

730
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: a rookie. He was a you know, part time starter

731
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: and a contributor. If you told me I could secure

732
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: the second best defender in the draft by giving up

733
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: my second round pick. Question interesting, So you're on a

734
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten without trading. I'm just saying

735
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: you just get to pick this player. How great would

736
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: you feel if you picked Isaiah Simmons? Oh, I'd be great? Yeah, awesome, Yeah, pump.

737
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: If you pick Grant Delpot one through ten, how are

738
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: you feeling nine? Um, yeah, I'd be I'd be excited

739
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: about that. I'm obviously based, but maybe a seven because

740
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: if you're still at a nine, maybe you don't want

741
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: to trade up. You do have questions. Delpot i don't

742
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: have questions about Simmons. I have I don't have questions

743
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: about Simmons except for how he would be used here. Okay,

744
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that's a good Tenny play center field. He's your third No,

745
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: he's your third linebacker. He's your strong safety, is your

746
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: third linebacker. He's never coming off the field. He's never

747
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: coming off the field for sure. But that's what we're

748
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna trade up play linebacker. He's playing safety.

749
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: But you want to trade a one for Jamal Adams. No,

750
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: he's not a strong safety. That's the and that's that's

751
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: what's so intriguing about Simmons. For that matter. You can

752
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: throw Xavier McKinney and Grant Delpot in there too. Is like,

753
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: I am enamored with these guys that can play all

754
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: over the back seven just five spot for him. They

755
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: can play two or three linebacker positions. They can play safe.

756
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: The delpic and McKinney can probably do a little bit

757
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: more because they can move into the slot. I don't

758
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: know if if I'm I don't know if Simmons can

759
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: do that. If I'm drafting scared, that's fine. I have

760
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: no problem being called a scaredy cat, I'm okay with that. No,

761
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: that's what I'm just saying. If I'm drafting scared, I've

762
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: also got one eye over here on the money's and

763
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: the roster. That a all of it, and I just

764
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't think it makes sense. I mean, I

765
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: think you have a potential right here, picking in the

766
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: middle of the first three rounds to grab guys who

767
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: can help you. It's all gonna be good. I can

768
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: trade to Mary, I can get you more picks now

769
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: sitting out we're doing that. That changes things. If we're

770
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: maneuver so reckless trading other guys who are already on

771
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: the roster, then that opens up a whole new can

772
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: of worms. I'm traid the running back in the linebacker,

773
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: let's go. But I'm stay at the question that was

774
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: asked by the guy on Twitter. The question that was

775
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: asked was would you trade up to get him? I

776
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: think and nothing else there that's gonna be that's cost me.

777
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: It's like the dominant storyline of this draft for me

778
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: is like you're sitting in a spot where you know

779
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: not to bring up receiver again, but like you might

780
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: be able to get the best receiver in the class

781
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: at seventeen, or you settle for a good player but

782
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: a lesser value at another position like Grant Delpit. Maybe

783
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: isn't the best value at seventeen, but he fits what

784
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: you want as opposed to or the same thing with

785
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: like an offensive tackle. You could get like a blue

786
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: chip offensive tackle. Maybe I might like to have my

787
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Zach Martin or Ryan Shazier. Just don't take the Johnny

788
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: Manzell situation like I feel like I'm I will have

789
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: a good player get to me at seventeen, and I

790
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: want to keep that second round bick gosh, isn't this fun?

791
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: We can talk about being in the middle of the

792
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: seventh or the middle of the first round and have

793
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: these options. It's not fun. Katie's not trying to the

794
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: this is good. You don't want to be in the middle.

795
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Katie's a coward. Number seventeen pick over the past twenty

796
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: years has been traded away. I'll go get Simmons if

797
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: it costs me my third. That's not gonna happen given away.

798
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm just drafting scared, all right, One more question before

799
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: we take our next break, and Matt with for the

800
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: second week in a row. Our butt Boy. Matt has

801
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: a great question, resigning Robert Quinn change your opinion on

802
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: drafting kin Law or Chasing in that first round. Chasing

803
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe because he's an edge player. Yeah, not ken Law,

804
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: because I mean, it wouldn't change me on kin Law.

805
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: Why would it change. The reason it would change me

806
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: on kin Law is because obviously you're right, Robert Quinn

807
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: plays defensive end. Chase on here would play defensive end,

808
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: and kin Law would play the three technique. But the

809
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me with Robert Quinn potentially being gone

810
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: isn't just I'm missing a defensive end. It's who in

811
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: the world is my second pass rusher? Sure? Yeah, kin

812
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: Law is that. I think kin Law would be your

813
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: second pass rusher. He wouldn't line up outside. But I

814
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: need somebody but after the quarterback other than Tank. But

815
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: if you have Quinn, you still need a three tech

816
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Like you still need a pass rusher. Yeah, And I think,

817
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Mike, don't have Quinn. It does crank

818
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: up how much I want anyone who can rush the

819
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: passer but to create. But you know, to the questions point,

820
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: like if if you had Robert Quinn and we don't

821
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: know who they might sign at D tackle. You know,

822
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: last year they got Christian Cover or Chris Christian Covington.

823
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: It's always confused. Cople Okay, you're right that would affect

824
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: how much, But you still would want a badass three

825
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: tech even if you had two good edge rushers right away.

826
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: And honestly, drafting kin Law is even more exciting if

827
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: you have Robert Quinn on the roster because it's a

828
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: pick your poison of three really good pass rushers. My

829
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: problem with the question there is we're talking about two

830
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: different areas of the draft for kin Law and Chase On.

831
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: For me, I know the world loves Chase On. Chason

832
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: is a top twenty player. I've got him as an

833
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: early second. I've got Kim Law as a top twelve

834
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: or top ten player. I don't have Chase On as

835
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: a top twenty point. It's it's hard to get a

836
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: read that everybody's I mean, I said this at the

837
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl last week, Like, there are people that think

838
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: Ken Law is a top ten pick. There are people

839
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: that have going at the end of the first round. Ye,

840
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: and I feel like Chason's stock is rising, But I

841
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: don't think everybody's sold on sold on him all the

842
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: way to the point where he's like a consensus top

843
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: twenty guy for sure. Um, would you like that pick?

844
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: He's fun though I like I like the player, I

845
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: just don't. I think we're talking about two different if

846
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: they drafted, if they take Chase On at seventeen Chasing,

847
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: I would, I would like it, Yeah, I would. I

848
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: would have my fingers crossed that it works out because

849
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: I do like the player. I just I would have

850
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: been the same way. I think I wouldn't be one

851
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: the ten scale that you threw out earlier for Delpit,

852
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: I would throw a six in there. Ken would be ten.

853
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: For me, would be a six or seven. I wouldn't

854
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: be all the way sold that it was a great move. Yeah,

855
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: but which and I hate when people fall into this trap.

856
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: But I can't help but think about Daniel Hunter, who

857
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: was a similar player, similar type of player in college

858
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: who I was not high on. And he's obviously a

859
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: freaking drafted high long enough. But his tap wasn't great. No,

860
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: Hunter's tape wasn't great at hell. Which but mane like tools.

861
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Go watch, go watch the last five games of LSU season,

862
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Calevan was a monster against the run and the pass,

863
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't hate that stronger than he gets credit for.

864
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I know people knock him because he's two forty or whatever.

865
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: He looks like, he looks like a tweener, but he

866
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: handles the run, Okay, he does. I just there's just

867
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more you want to see. And that's

868
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: where you tell it with kinlay, I go, okay, I

869
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: get what I you know where you get one here

870
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: seventeen feels a little rich, which that feels like the

871
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: beginning of his range to me, like sixteen to twenty five.

872
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: I had that Chase on range. I hope the Cowboys

873
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: can find a way to bring Quinn back because it

874
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: just solves a lot of problems about what you do

875
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: about edge because I'm not I was going to bring

876
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: that up in the Senior Bowl Daurn's time. They first

877
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: of all, well and exactly and and I don't like,

878
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not unless you are, unless you're the Washington Redskins

879
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: and you can draft Chase you. I'm not feeling awesome

880
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: about the edge rushers and said, not really. I watched

881
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: I watched jo I watched your grossmatos the other day.

882
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: I came away. I came away not impressed. Not not

883
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: at seventeen. Tell you that at seventeen. No, that's how

884
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: I feel about every non chase young guys. I would go, oh, okay,

885
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: I'll work like we're gonna have two monsters that play

886
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: the run great and get me eight to ten sacks. Okay, yeah,

887
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: I'll take it. But you're talking about a guy. It's like,

888
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Jones always calls it like Gumby, Like

889
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: that's not gumby stuff. We may not be looking for Gumby.

890
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I am. Everybody's looking for Gumby, thank you having Well,

891
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: everybody's looking for Gumby. All schemes want bendable pass rushers. Yeah,

892
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: but that's no reason too. If you have one who's

893
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: not like that, that's really good. Like, nah, I don't.

894
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: I just I mean, it's early I have at Randy

895
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Gregory back, I would love that's just do that. Hey,

896
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna talk about substance rules at the owners meetings.

897
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a new age. Maybe you stop punishing players

898
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: for mental health problems. Final segment coming. Yeah, we've got

899
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: We've got to get to the last segment because this

900
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. Plenty of options at seventeen. We've

901
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,839
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902
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,160
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Speaker 1: Draft show. Back here in the s WBC Mortgage studios. Dave,

941
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: you look like you have something on your mind. No,

942
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: I just which you know. Shouts out to Bobby Belt,

943
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: the stat god. He's always keeping us on our toes.

944
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: But what two? It was two years ago the Saints

945
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: made a pretty significant trade up into the top ten

946
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: to get Marcus Davenport out of Texas San Antonio. That's

947
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: not they jumped halfway up the draft board. I thought

948
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: you were looking for jumps into the top maybe Okay,

949
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: middle of the round with a pick that they knew

950
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: was going to be at like twenty eight to thirty.

951
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: The next year they get them, they drafted fifteen or fourteen.

952
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: There seen something like that. It was twenty seven to fourteen. Yeah,

953
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: that's a pretty substantial jump, Bobby. They gave up a

954
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: first game, they gave up a first in the next draft.

955
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like number thirty to get Chase Young. I

956
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: still think you'd have to do more. Yeah, for sure,

957
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: But crazier things have happened. Maybe. I mean the Saints

958
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: once gave up a whole draft. It's a big maybe.

959
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: It depends on what the package is to get Chase Young. Yeah,

960
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: if crazy things have actually happened. Back when running backs

961
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: matter right. Actually I leaned toward thinking it wouldn't happen,

962
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: all right, So we talked about plenty of scenarios in

963
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: that last segment talking about what the Cowboys could do

964
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: at pick seventeen. Now, Jeff, you've talked about three different

965
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: scenarios with the first three rounds, So we're going all

966
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: buy threes here, first, second, third round. You got three scenarios,

967
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: and we're gonna choose either or between these guys. What's

968
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: your first scenario? Yeah? See, anybody could just say, hey,

969
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: who do you want in the first round, But to me,

970
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: that's cheating. We gotta follow this thing all the way

971
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: down the trail through three rounds. So I'm gonna give

972
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: you three different options here behind door. Number one is

973
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at number seventeen, select Grant Delpit, LSU safety.

974
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: Love it. They take him at seventeen. Awesome. At fifty one,

975
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a pick. That's just for me. Jordan Elliott,

976
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: defensive tackle miszoo Okay, okay. In the third round, Senior

977
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Bowl standout Denzel Mims. We're taking a wide receiver in

978
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: the third round. That's your first set. Okay, you can

979
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: go delp It Elliott Mims safe at d tackle receiver,

980
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: our second pick. Our second set of picks here. First round,

981
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys take Javon Kin Long All right, that's the one.

982
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: I compensated for that with my next two picks. Their

983
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: second pick is Ashton Davis, the cal safety. I love

984
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis. I'm a fan of them too personally. Their

985
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: third round pick is Troy Pride Junior out of Notre Dame,

986
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: the cornerback. Although if I could just change my own

987
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: rules of the game, I'd rather put Auburn's Noah Igbogo,

988
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: you got it, I'd rather put him in there. You

989
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: made this up, you can do it. Anybody seen him

990
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: except me. I'm gonna I'm gonna go on. I'm not

991
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna think he's gonna be there. Okay, third rounds okay,

992
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: so Ken Law, Davis, Pride, and your third grouping would be.

993
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: In the first round, the Cowboys take Christian Fulton out

994
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: LSU corner. Oh stop seventeen. Fulton's better than Gladney. You're

995
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna eat that one, all right. We'll just discuss

996
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: that at a future have a cornerback coming up in

997
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: three weeks on The Draft Show. Second round you take

998
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Bradley and I Utah defensive end. He's good at the

999
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. And in the third round, you'd take another

1000
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: Utah player, Leakey fot I like my I like my

1001
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Utah guys nose tackle. You get a nose tackle and

1002
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: edge rusher and a corner, all defense. Two of the

1003
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: three were all defense, okay, which like spoiler alert, you know,

1004
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: we knew that we were doing this ahead of time.

1005
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: So I sat down. The two guys I hadn't seen

1006
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: were Elliott and a n I uh loved Jordan Elliott.

1007
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: I told you that last night. He's fun to watch

1008
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: that man. Bradley and I. I was not impressed. I

1009
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: was kind of using what seems like he's getting a

1010
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl bump. He definitely a third round guy. He

1011
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: dominated the Senior Bowl. He had a hurry that led

1012
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurt throwing a pick. He had two or

1013
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: three two or three sacks in the game. About the

1014
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: fact that he had twenty nine and a half career

1015
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: sacks though he okay everything and he was a dominant

1016
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: player and he only started three years. Here's the other

1017
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: thing about Bradley and I, and I was guilty because

1018
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: at first I felt like Dave and I was going

1019
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: this guy just to have any juice, and then you

1020
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: watch a game, go through it play by play, and

1021
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: you go by the end of it, he's winning every time.

1022
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: He is kind of the definition of a lunch pell

1023
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: guy because he is like he is kind of like

1024
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: I need to like win early with snap anticipation because

1025
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't have the bend the gumby, I don't have

1026
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: the burst. I'm looking for good with his hands and

1027
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: things like that. He does a good job of winning.

1028
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: In the end, the traits are not there, and that's

1029
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: what makes him scary, and taking him in the second

1030
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: round at pick fifty one, I'm uncomfortable doing. But I

1031
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: do like the player and I would take him in

1032
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: a round. Here. He looks really good when he can

1033
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: get inside on the tackle and has a straighter path

1034
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, which like so does everybody. You can

1035
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: say that about any He looks really not impressive when

1036
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: he has to get around or through the tackle. I

1037
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: watched him play USC which they have a left tackle

1038
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: by the name of Austin Jackson. A lot of people

1039
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go first round. I wouldn't. I saw

1040
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: getting his butt kicked for most of that. Yeah, he's

1041
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: got a long way to go to be a first

1042
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: round player in maas Tom point being a draftable, a

1043
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: highly draftable left tackle, good competition. I thought handled him

1044
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: pretty pretty well. And I mean he looked good at

1045
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. You got to take that into account.

1046
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: Played well in the game. Games matter. I just but

1047
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: fifty one, It's like, at some point, what is your

1048
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: trait that makes you kind of takes you over the

1049
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: top to be a second round player. If it's not

1050
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: the burst and the speed around the edge, that's not

1051
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: the link. I'm still looking for that at pick fifty

1052
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: one too, and the second round edge Greenherd maybe from Florida,

1053
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: Jonathan Greenard, if you want to go there. Notre Dame

1054
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: Oquara is so tough because the way they used him

1055
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: is weird. It's dude, there's a there's a drop off

1056
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: and then it kind of picks up again. What about

1057
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver Boise State. Where do you have him? I'm

1058
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: not a fan, not a fan of man, same type

1059
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: of thing, just not athletic enough. And I'm trusting another

1060
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: guy who just kind of wins kind of the same way. See,

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00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: I just watched run circles around people that were on

1062
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: bad football teams. He were bad players, and he would

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: just run around him. And I'm just like, I don't

1064
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: know how to translate that shows up in the combine

1065
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: and runs a six eight three cone. Then I'm like,

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00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: oh wow, I'm way too low because now suddenly his

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00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: athleticism works. So any is in that group with Christian

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00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Fulton and Leaky Foe. Two Photo, I like everyone liked

1069
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: Photo though, is the third round like one Technique? I mean,

1070
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: he's a massive solid Think about what you had this

1071
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: year with Antoine Woods and when Antoine Woods is missing,

1072
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: and how things hurt so much when Antone Woods was

1073
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: out as a six foot guy, you know, Photos a

1074
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: six foot five, three hundred and thirty pound dude. I

1075
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: mean there's a big difference. He can take on double teams,

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00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: I know. But he moves well, he moves, he moves well.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's translate that over to the guy I really like,

1078
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: which is Jordan Elliott. Yeah, Okay, he's a big cat

1079
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: who can do a little bit of everything. Yeah. Yeah,

1080
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: he gives you more than Photo does for sure. Six

1081
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: four three fifteen, Yeah, plays one plays three Maszoo had

1082
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: him playing some three four end like he can go

1083
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: all over the line. I was really impressed with his hands,

1084
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: like he's just karate chopping people out of his way.

1085
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: He pressured the quarterback on like fifteen percent of his

1086
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: snaps this season, which I mean three four hundred snaps.

1087
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: It's a freaking it's a lot of pressures. Yeah, can

1088
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: I ask five and a half a career sacks? Though?

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00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: Can I can? I don't need I don't need him.

1090
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't need him. That's difference, Like there's like, well,

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00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: you know what you're getting in a nine, and we're

1092
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: not comparing A Nie and Jordan Elliot. You know what

1093
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: you're getting when we watch a Nie, when you watch

1094
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott. Yeah, you don't always know what you're getting

1095
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: on snapped a stap basis true. When you're watching sometimes

1096
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: you go, okay, why did he just get pushed back? Yeard,

1097
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: It's like he just stood straight up and then he

1098
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: fires off and he knifes through and then you're like, okay, wow, okay,

1099
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: he's firing off. He's playing well, it's all about staying

1100
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: low and technically that can be refined. He could be

1101
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: a player who's ascending. So that's what it's all about,

1102
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: because I don't I see the same guy where It's like,

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00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't see a guy that's great with his hands

1104
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't see a guy who plays

1105
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: with the right pad level and they still kind of

1106
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: can't stop him. And he gives you some range too

1107
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: for defensive tackle, like Foto is not going to make

1108
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: a lot of plays outside of his area. Watched Elliot.

1109
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: I watched Elliott chase down a receiver screen yesterday, like

1110
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: ten yards down the field, like the receiver had room

1111
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: to run and was able to accelerate, and Elliot's still

1112
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: cast no group one. Who's that reminding of d Law? Yeah?

1113
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: I can see that. Can I throw in a guy though,

1114
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: just like as an exemption, like say, hey, say something

1115
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: happened to Jordan Elliot? Oka say like he he got

1116
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: the Javon Kinlaw, Naton Tonight, TCU defensive tackle, Ross and

1117
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: Blacklock all seen him yet in the second round. Yeah,

1118
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: I like him too. I haven't got him kind of

1119
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: in that same area too, as another big man. I

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Speaker 1: think we should keep our eyes on. He's kind of

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00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: in the draft shows mentions for a little while Cowboys.

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00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: Twitter likes him. He's powerful, hands three, one three, but

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Speaker 1: they let him play the one a lot at TCU,

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Speaker 1: so he's like, he's kind of a combination at the

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle that can do some of everything. And Achilles

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, I am a I am in the

1127
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: in the boat would have always being very skeptical of

1128
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: anyone who's head an Achilles injury red flash just in general.

1129
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: When I see a person on the street who's got

1130
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: a bad achilles, he can't be on my pickup basketball team.

1131
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: He can't jump. You go tell Richard Sherman that down

1132
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: in Miami. Okay, I'm not telling him anything. Shots uh okay.

1133
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: But so you guys are all picking one? Is that

1134
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: what you guys? Give me a group one with bells

1135
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: on and like, I don't you know some people are

1136
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: going to be lower on Delpit I think, you know,

1137
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't he might go in the twenties like seventeen

1138
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: could be too rich in somebody's eyes. Don't have a

1139
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: good read on Elliott and again, have fun sorting out

1140
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: these receivers. But man, that's a fun group. And all

1141
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: three picks address a pretty big area of need in

1142
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: my opinion. I have kin Law graded higher than Delpitt,

1143
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: and I have Ashton Davis graded higher than Jordan Elliott.

1144
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: I will take Group two. Wow, Javon kin Law, even

1145
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: though Davis as safety, you think third round is too

1146
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: rich for Pride though, yeah, you're just settling for that kind.

1147
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: The first two picks are so good you can't deny this. Yeah,

1148
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: I'd like dedn't sell mems, but I don't think that's

1149
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: something they would seriously do if Cobb is back, I

1150
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: guess is the way I'm thinking. Even though I like

1151
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, I Group three is like a distant third

1152
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: for me. Well, and like like Dave said earlier, we

1153
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: saw these going into the show. We had already got

1154
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of look at a couple of

1155
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: these guys. But I initially, whenever Jeff you sent the

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00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: text message, I said, oh, group two, I'm sold on

1157
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: Group two. But then I, as you were reading these

1158
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: out this out, I went back to your one to

1159
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: ten scale and I just wrote down what I would

1160
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: how excited I would be for those specific players whenever

1161
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: they would come across the draft board. I chose group

1162
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: one just based off of my excitement. I really did

1163
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: even one Originally. Group one's a lot of fun and

1164
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: that's why it won't happen. But I'm like, yeah, the

1165
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: receivers are fun and exciting, so we're gonna pick up

1166
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: because there's a receiver in there. I might need to

1167
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: ban receivers from it, even these scenarios. Yeah, now you're

1168
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean you take Dedn't tell Mims over Troy Pride.

1169
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: Is that's happening here? Ken l Yes, Ken Law and

1170
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis start for this team right away, and that's

1171
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: that's exciting to think about. I mean, Elliott and Delpit

1172
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: probably do. But I just I think the order of

1173
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: safety and d tackles, but those the guys in group

1174
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: two might be more ready made. Maybe Ken Lovesny well, okay,

1175
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: why you gotta? And I think issues too. Davis missed

1176
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: the issue. They've both had some. Now, yeah that's fair,

1177
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: and and Davis could stand to put on about ten

1178
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: pounds of bull. It can be hard to do that

1179
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: with a issue. I'm a broken record, But get just

1180
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: the positioning in the draft order. No, they're not in

1181
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: the top ten, but this is as high as they've

1182
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: been picking in a while. This just for me underlines

1183
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be good, good players available at all

1184
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: their pas. Oh, that's so exciting. I have some starters

1185
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: And that's why we're not trading up either. We're just

1186
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: going to sit and take Simmons. Is there, Katie at

1187
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: don't be months. Let's do it. Let's let's get it done.

1188
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for our fourth episode

1189
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: of the Draft Show here in twenty twenty, we're already

1190
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: a month in. Wow, it's just funny. The combine coming

1191
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: up in February for Jeff Kavanaugh, for Kevin Turner, for

1192
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: David Helman. I'm Kyle Yeoman's thanks for watching. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week.