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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with

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Speaker 2: you and Senator I think it's time that we do

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Speaker 2: a really nice job exposing the left and the dark

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Speaker 2: money that is funding all of these anti Israel protests

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We're more than a week into

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Speaker 3: these rabid anti Israel Prohamas protests that we're seeing at

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Speaker 3: college campuses across the country, and a question that keeps

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Speaker 3: than a few people have noticed, Gosh, these protesters all

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Speaker 3: seem to have matching tents. The tents are brand new.

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Speaker 3: Who's paying for them? There's clearly real money behind that.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do a deep dive into that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not trying to hide it, by the way,

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Speaker 2: when there's no subtlety, it's like wearing matching uniforms, it's

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Speaker 3: That's happening. On top of that, we're going to do

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Speaker 2: at all of these protests, and you mentioned the matching tents,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of hilarious. They're not even trying to hide it.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what we saw with Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 2: And it's coming from dark money groups that are funding bail,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. There's clearly significant money that are

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Speaker 3: You know, we're seeing at universities it's not just students

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Speaker 2: You put all that together and you see it center

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Speaker 2: In fact, Newsweek has a headline just now and it

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Speaker 2: they're now saying they are going to investigate it. I

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Speaker 2: Of course you should be investigating this. Of course you are.

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Speaker 3: And I have zero confidence the Biden Department of Justice

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Speaker 3: the people funding these anti Semitic protests are leftists. They

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Speaker 3: in significant respects. They are the radicals, they are the aocs,

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Speaker 3: One of the many reasons it is an America's national

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Speaker 3: I just noted the congressional testimony laying this out that

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Speaker 3: we see zero interest on the part of the Department

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Speaker 1: And mind you, we pla ask.

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Speaker 2: is the frustrating part you look at. This was on

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Speaker 2: into both instance or signs at the same individuals maybe

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Speaker 2: at the tents what you said earlier, They all were

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Speaker 2: somebody's funding this. He added that professional agitators have also

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Speaker 3: should be real concern of Hey, we're national public radio.

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Speaker 3: We're supposed to be nonpartisan, We're supposed to be down

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Speaker 3: the middle. Now look, I for one, have serious doubts

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Speaker 3: why the taxpayer should fund any radio station. I think

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Speaker 3: there are plenty of for profit radio stations. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why the government should coursibly tax you to pay

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Speaker 3: for yet another radio station. But I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 3: even if there's an argument they should do so for

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Speaker 3: generic news that somehow there's not a market demand for,

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Speaker 3: there is no argument I know of that they should

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Speaker 3: do so only for left wing propaganda. And the newly

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Speaker 3: appointed CEO, Catherine Marr, has been a hard partisan her

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Speaker 3: whole life. So, for example, in twenty twenty, Mar referred

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Speaker 3: to President Donald Trump as a quote deranged racist sociopath. Well,

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Speaker 3: then I'm confident her coverage of Donald Trump will be

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Speaker 3: fair as long as she introduces him as a deranged,

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Speaker 3: racist sociopath every time he's covered.

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Speaker 1: How do you even get that job?

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Speaker 2: And I'm being serious, if you're national public radio, how

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Speaker 2: does that automatically disqualify you from that position as soon

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Speaker 2: as they see that quote?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, that's not an outlier. In

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, she celebrated Trump's banishment from social media,

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Speaker 3: referring to him as a fascist. So she loves censorship, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the former president of the United States elected by the

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Speaker 3: American people. I'm thrilled that he's being silenced because I

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Speaker 3: dislike his politics and I think he's a fascist. In

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Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty, right in the middle of the

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Speaker 3: George Floyd riots, mar suggested that looting represented a form

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Speaker 3: of reparative justice for historic wrongs, and she remarked how

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Speaker 3: white silence is tantamount to complicity and violence. She's also

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Speaker 3: posted repeatedly in support of Democrat politicians including Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, and Joe Biden. Now listen as

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Speaker 3: a private citizen, she has a right to be an

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Speaker 3: angry left winding radical and a hard Democrat partisan. But

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Speaker 3: explain to me why on earth the American taxpayers should

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet that's exactly why she probably got the job,

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Speaker 2: because they're like, oh, perfect, You're going to keep pushing

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Speaker 2: That's preborn dot co slash verdict. Senator, if you are

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Speaker 2: at MPR, can you imagine if you are lefty, lefty,

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Speaker 2: how much freedom. I think it would make you feel

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Speaker 2: like you had to then go out there and continue

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Speaker 2: to push propaganda on the American people. If this is

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Speaker 2: your CEO, I mean, it's a license to basically go

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Speaker 2: all in on liberal propaganda at the taxpayer's expense.

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Speaker 3: Now, that is exactly right, And I've got to say listen.

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Speaker 3: As you know, I'm the ranking member on the Senate

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Speaker 3: Committee of Commerce, Science, and Transportation, and part of my

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Speaker 3: responsibility in that role, we've got jurisdiction over about forty

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Speaker 3: percent of the US economy, and part of my responsibility

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Speaker 3: is oversighted. I can tell you that I am actively

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Speaker 3: engaging in oversight right now, calling on NPR to explain,

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Speaker 3: to explain why they're willing to put in place a

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Speaker 3: hard left wing activist, not a neutral journalist, but someone.

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Speaker 1: Who is biased, who is.

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Speaker 3: Who is an active supporter of censorship, to violence, to

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Speaker 3: silence the views she disagrees with. Why NPR believes that

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Speaker 3: that is an appropriate leader for their institution.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really great point.

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Speaker 3: And listen, don't necessarily take our word for it. I

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Speaker 3: want you to listen to Catherine Maher in her own words,

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Speaker 3: because it's going to show just how radical she is.

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Speaker 3: And I want to play a couple clips. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with her explaining that, in her view, the number one

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Speaker 3: challenge that she faces is the First Amendment of the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: Let's play that clip.

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Speaker 5: The number one challenge here that we see is, of course,

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Speaker 5: the First Amendment in the United States is a.

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Speaker 6: Fairly robust protection of rights.

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Speaker 5: And that is a protection of rights both for platforms,

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Speaker 5: which I actually think is very important that platforms have

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Speaker 5: those rights to be able to regulate what kind of

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Speaker 5: content they want on their sites, but it also means

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Speaker 5: that it is a little bit tricky you really address

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Speaker 5: some of the real challenges of where does bad information

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Speaker 5: come from and sort of the influence peddlers who have

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Speaker 5: made a real market economy around it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing center.

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Speaker 2: This is the woman running MPR, and I guess this

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Speaker 2: is almost like the best thing you can put on

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Speaker 2: your resume, right. You're like, hey, I think the First

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Speaker 2: Amendment's are real problem. It's like perfect, We'd love to

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Speaker 2: hire you at MPR.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she actually says, well, the First Amendment is

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Speaker 3: really important for platforms. But then what she describes as

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Speaker 3: their first Amendment right, is for their ability to censor

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Speaker 3: and silence things they disagree with. So to her mind,

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Speaker 3: what she cares about is the ability if there's a

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Speaker 3: view that is right a center. As far as she's concerned,

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Speaker 3: the First Amendment is all about silencing those views. There

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Speaker 3: can be no dissent, all right. I want you to

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Speaker 3: listen to another clip. This is a Ted talk where

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Speaker 3: she's discussing truth when she was at Wikipedia, and somehow

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Speaker 3: she has a different view of truth than I think

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Speaker 3: you and I might have. Give a listen.

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Speaker 7: But the hard things, the places where we are prone

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Speaker 7: to disagreement, say politics, religion. Well, as it turns out,

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Speaker 7: not only does Wikipedia's model work there, it actually works

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Speaker 7: really well because in our normal lives, these contentious conversations

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Speaker 7: tend to rrupt or disagreement about what the truth actually is.

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Speaker 7: But the people who write these articles, they're not focused

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Speaker 7: on the truth. They're focused on something else, which is

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Speaker 7: the best of what we can know right now. And

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Speaker 7: after seven years of working with these brilliant folks, I've

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Speaker 7: come to believe that they are onto something that perhaps

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Speaker 7: for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and seeking

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Speaker 7: to convince others of the truth might not be the

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Speaker 7: right place to start. In fact, our reverence for the

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Speaker 7: truth might be a distraction that's getting in the way

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Speaker 7: of finding common ground and getting things done. That is

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Speaker 7: not to say that the truth doesn't exist, nor is

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Speaker 7: it to say that the truth isn't important. Clearly, the

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Speaker 7: search for the truth has led us to do great things,

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Speaker 7: to learn great things. But I think if I were

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Speaker 7: to really ask you to think about this, one of

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Speaker 7: the things that we could all acknowledge is that part

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Speaker 7: of the reason we have such glorious chronicles to the

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Speaker 7: human experience in all forms of culture is because we

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Speaker 7: acknowledge there are many different truths, and so in the

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Speaker 7: spirit of that, I'm certain that the truth exists for

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Speaker 7: you and probably for the person sitting next to you,

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Speaker 7: But this may not be the same truth. This is

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Speaker 7: because the truth of the matter is very often for

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Speaker 7: many people. What happens when we merge facts about the

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Speaker 7: world with our beliefs about the world. So we all

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Speaker 7: have different truths based on things like where we come from,

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Speaker 7: how we were raised, and how other people perceive us.

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Speaker 3: What utter garbage like every word of that you want

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Speaker 3: an indictment of the modern left you want an indictment

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Speaker 3: of the idiocy of media. You want an indictment of

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Speaker 3: the academic world. You want an indictment of big tech.

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Speaker 3: Good God, what utter garbage? Truth doesn't exist? George or

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Speaker 3: Well is spinning in his grave and laughing at the

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Speaker 3: same time. Two plus two doesn't equal four, It equals

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Speaker 3: five because we say it is. There is no truth.

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Speaker 3: Listen to that quote. Our reverence for the truth might

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Speaker 3: be a distraction that's getting in the way of finding

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Speaker 3: common ground and getting things done. But don't worry. This

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Speaker 3: is only for things that don't matter, the contentious issues.

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Speaker 3: What does she identify politics and religion? When it comes

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Speaker 3: to politics and religion, look, Jesus Christ said, I am

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Speaker 3: the way the truth in the life. But no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no, don't have reverence for truth. We're not interested

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Speaker 3: in that. We are interested in set aside of truth.

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Speaker 3: That can be your truth, my truth. Everyone has a truth.

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Speaker 3: Maybe for you, two plus two is five. What utter garbage?

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Speaker 3: You know what a journalist's supposed to be interested in

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Speaker 3: the truth. Now, do you have perfect truth? No? Do

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Speaker 3: you have perfect knowledge? No? But you should get damn

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Speaker 3: close to it. You should be trying to get to

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Speaker 3: the truth. Remember what journalists used to learn?

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Speaker 1: Who? What, when? Where? How? Why?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: What happened? What are the facts? Well, no, no, no, not

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Speaker 3: according to her. According to to her, there are no facts.

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Speaker 3: There is no truth. It's your truth, it's my truth,

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Speaker 3: and my truth. From Catherine Marr's perspective is as a

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Speaker 3: left wing partisan, whatever the orthodoxy is, and we will

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Speaker 3: silence views that disagree. And the First Amendment is a

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Speaker 3: pesky pesky barrier. All right, I want to play one

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Speaker 3: more clip. Yeah, one more clip where she's describing what

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Speaker 3: she did at Wikipedia. Listen to this third clip.

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Speaker 6: I started by talking about the idea of free and

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Speaker 6: open as some of our founding principles sort of free

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Speaker 6: and open source coming from me to the open source community. Well,

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Speaker 6: I have come to the opinion and the perspective that

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Speaker 6: and open was a way of looking at the world

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Speaker 6: that was inherently limited relative to what we were trying

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Speaker 6: to achieve. Free and open has the best of intentionality,

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Speaker 6: but in the end, what free and open often ended

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Speaker 6: up doing, and particularly in the case of Wikipedia, was

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Speaker 6: really recapitulating many of the same power structures and dynamics

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Speaker 6: that exist offline prior to the advent of the Internet.

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Speaker 6: And so what we ended up seeing was Wikipedia really

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Speaker 6: rebuilt this idea of knowledge as a whole around what

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Speaker 6: the Western canon. You see, the exclusion of communities of

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Speaker 6: languages because of the ways in which Wikipedia is based

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Speaker 6: on reliable sources. The idea of a written tradition is

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Speaker 6: something that is particular to many I mean not sorry,

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Speaker 6: the idea of a written tradition which is particular to

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Speaker 6: some cultures and not to others. The ways in which

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Speaker 6: we I ascribe notability often really comes from sort of

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Speaker 6: this white male, westernized construct around who matters in societies

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Speaker 6: and who is elevated and who's and so some of

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Speaker 6: these ideas. So this radical openness really did not end

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Speaker 6: up with the intention, really did not end up living

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Speaker 6: into the intentionality of what openness can be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that just is brilliant right there, God bless so.

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Speaker 3: Look she's explaining at Wikipedia, they deliberately abandoned a quote

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Speaker 3: free and open approach. By the way she's telling you

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Speaker 3: what she's going to do at NPR. NPR is not

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Speaker 3: going to be free and open, according to her, because

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Speaker 3: she doesn't believe in free and open. Why because free

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Speaker 3: and open number one. She says, well, that advantages cultures

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Speaker 3: that believe in the written word, because you know, what

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Speaker 3: good has book learning ever done anyone? Well, heck, you're

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Speaker 3: forgetting those cultures that don't believe in that fancy learning

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Speaker 3: stuff like what utter garbage. I'm sorry, I thought, actually

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Speaker 3: a journalistic outfit should actually reflect celebrate the best of education,

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Speaker 3: of learning, of what we know. But she says, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: If it's actually free and open, it will recapitulate a

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Speaker 3: white male, westernized, westernized construct. Let me ask you something, Ben,

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Speaker 3: what the hell does that mean? Seriously? Those are the

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Speaker 3: words Marxist use, and typically the more syllables they use

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Speaker 3: when they get polysyllabic, the less they're making any sense.

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Speaker 3: So explain to me the phrase recapitulate a white male,

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Speaker 3: westernized construct that does not end up living into the

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Speaker 3: intentionality of what openness can mean. Those words have no

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Speaker 3: content other than I want the power to silence things

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Speaker 3: I don't like.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong? No, you're right, And my question goes

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Speaker 1: back to this. For you. It used to be at MPR.

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Speaker 2: And others they would at least fake it like their bias.

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Speaker 2: Now it's just flat out open, and they're doing it

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Speaker 2: with our tax tours. Is there ever going to be

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Speaker 2: a day day of reckoning where MPR finds out, hey,

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Speaker 2: good luck, do your own thing, because we're not going

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Speaker 2: to pay for this propagana anymore.

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Speaker 3: Look, if NPR cares at all about journalistic integrity, if

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Speaker 3: they care at all about continuing to receive taxpayer funds,

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Speaker 3: they should terminate Catherine Marr immediately. Her job should be done.

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Speaker 3: They should not have a rabid left wing partisan who

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Speaker 3: hates the First Amendment, who've used it as an inconvenience,

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Speaker 3: who wants to censor conservatives, who is actively explicitly and

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Speaker 3: unabashedly opposed to free and open communication, who doesn't believe

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Speaker 3: in truth, who believes truth is an impediment to what

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Speaker 3: she's doing. That is not a journalist in any way.

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Speaker 3: She ought to go and join Emily's List, she ought

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Speaker 3: to go and join the DNC. She gotta go run

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Speaker 3: for Congress and become a henchman to Nancy Pelosi. She

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Speaker 3: should not actually be running a news organization, especially not

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Speaker 3: a news organization funded by the taxpayers. And if we

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Speaker 3: have to be honest, if you had a Democrat who

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Speaker 3: had a shred of integrity. They would say, of course,

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Speaker 3: this is not appropriate for her to run NPR are

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Speaker 3: the chances of that happening are zero? But I can

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Speaker 3: tell you I'm going to be pushing for accountability and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be pushing for oversight of NPR because

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Speaker 3: it is brazenly shameless for them to put someone so

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Speaker 3: wildly unqualified in that position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. Don't forget. We do this

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Speaker 2: show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Make sure you hit that

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Speaker 2: if you miss something during the week, We do that

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Speaker 2: on Saturdays and on those in between days.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you grab my podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'll keep you update on the latest breaking news, the

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Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson podcasts, so download that as well and The

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Speaker 2: Senator and I will see you back here in a

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