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Speaker 1: This was supposed to be You're okay, bet UFC Paris

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's coming, BC, you know he's coming. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: I would strongly encourage steal Gon to move on. We

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Speaker 1: We we to that. The cole main event is the

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Speaker 1: and she's had a few of those moments. She's also

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Speaker 1: As a close follower of Rose's career, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: close here, Jed, take me off of my superfan ledge,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to bring you down. BECI maybe you

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Speaker 2: that Yanna had, which is like that that's pretty important.

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00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: Peace to you, AUNTI and Jay Jake working out, and

429
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: so I think grows on a units is a vastly

430
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: superior technical fighter here. But my questions are all around

431
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 2: what she looks like moving up to flyweight, right, because

432
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: when we saw her struggle at strawweight outside of the

433
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 2: Asparza oddity, like if you just write that whole fight

434
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: off as something really weird.

435
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: The other time she.

436
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: Struggled was when someone could hast her, when Wiley Jiang

437
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: just would be like all right, I'm gonna get inside

438
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 2: in rough house with you, Jessica and Orge throwing her

439
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: on her head, Like maybe not that level of physically imposing,

440
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: but she has a ten pound natural weight advantage, and

441
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: I you know, I did the work BC. I dove

442
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: into the Instagram. I can't see any any giant change

443
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: in Roseann Hughes's physique that she like, Oh no, no,

444
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 2: she has she bolt a bunch of muscle. Yeah, she

445
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: bulked up, did she? And I think I did not

446
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: notice and I missed wig Ends this morning, so I

447
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: can't say they.

448
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: Both made it.

449
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: I'll go with that, all right.

450
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: I think that this is where like the normal, Like

451
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: I said, normal red flags that might apply to fighters

452
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: just don't apply to Rose because there's like a sixteen

453
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: month layoff here. But I actually think this is something

454
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: that helps her because it gave her a longer time

455
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: to move up, and that you know, she did make

456
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: this decision earlier. I think then it went public and

457
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: she started that process and really made a move into

458
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: the UFC's credit. They there's already a bottleneck fun suddenly

459
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: deep division atop at one twenty five, And we got

460
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: this title rematch in just a couple of weeks. And

461
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's Blanchfield just broke through again. It's awesome.

462
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: Yet Rose actually the rich get richer that she fits

463
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: in here perfectly. They gave her a perfect matchup where

464
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: it either completely puts Farrow over on her way to

465
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: its ill fight probably next if she wins in any

466
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: form and just the flip side. If Rose wins this,

467
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: especially if Schevchenko wins back the belt, suddenly you've got this,

468
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, champ versus former champ matchup. There's a lot

469
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: at stake here, but the time, the fact that Rose

470
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: is just that unique, someone who's so honest, but also,

471
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: like I said, somebody who can recoil, rebound. If it's

472
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: not her night, it's not her night, Jet and that

473
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: seems to be the history. I mean, she was you know,

474
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: she either Leida nag or was flat and some really

475
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: key step up opportunities. People forget that lost in Atlanta

476
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: at two h one against Carolina that she probably would

477
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: have gotten a title shot but came up just short

478
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: in a split decision. She does rise to the occasion though,

479
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: better than anybody. And I do agree with you if

480
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: this is kind of the right opponent that still plays

481
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: potentially to Rose's strengths. And I caught up with her

482
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: this week on Morning Combat. You can watch the interview

483
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: at full at YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat, and

484
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: she did tell me she feels healthier at this weight,

485
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: she feels stronger and she even believes she's faster. And

486
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen it before, especially somebody who was

487
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: big for a weight class before, like a Kisa, they

488
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: move up and suddenly it's just their free and they're there,

489
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: suddenly looked like the biggest fighter in that weight class.

490
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: That could be the case here. But I caught up

491
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: with Rose and asked her about that decision. How far

492
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: in the making was it, and uh, how pumped she

493
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: is about making this Let's listen in.

494
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: I guess originally I got the idea when I, you know,

495
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: wrote like this is early on in my career, when

496
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 5: I wrote down, you know, goals for myself, like become

497
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: the champion, dude is buy a house, you know, blah

498
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 5: blah blah. And then like on the last of my

499
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 5: goal list was to become two division champion. And so yeah,

500
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 5: I didn't really know how in my mind even though

501
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: I made that as a goal and I wrote it down,

502
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 5: I was kind of like question mark, you know what

503
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: I mean, Like because I'm like, eh, I don't know,

504
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. That's so that was that

505
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 5: was so long ago, and I didn't know what, you know,

506
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 5: this whole journey was going to look like getting to

507
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 5: this point, but here we are, and yeah, and then

508
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 5: I think during my second title reign, as I started

509
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 5: to get a little heavier and as I started to

510
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 5: like really like accomplish some things in my life and

511
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: stuff and with the career, that it was like kind of,

512
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 5: all right, this could potentially be you know, on the horizon,

513
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 5: but there's also a lot of different factors, you know.

514
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 5: There was there's also times where it was like, you know,

515
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 5: there's times where it's like I still want to do this,

516
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 5: you know, and it's like, of course I do, you

517
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Back and forth, right, So, but yeah,

518
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 5: after that last fight, it was like, I think that's

519
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 5: the move because it was just like kind of a

520
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: perfect storm of like, you know, me getting bigger and

521
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 5: then kind of like this is sort of the last

522
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 5: thing that I kind of want to do.

523
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Jed always very open and honest, and I think I

524
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: connect with her story so much because she's so willing

525
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: to sort of always show the fact that we all

526
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: deal with real human emotions and question ourselves and all that.

527
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: Yet she's able to in front of our eyes pick

528
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: it up and put it back together, figure out again

529
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: how to be great, How to be the mother effing best.

530
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: Can she still find another lane in a new division,

531
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: and will her skills carry up with her for against

532
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Faroa or against anybody? Is this, say, a run at

533
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: one twenty five that you think could be could be

534
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: very big and quickly to the title level here for Rose?

535
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

536
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 6: Absolutely. The question with Rose is not ability.

537
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: She has as much of that as just about anybody

538
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: competing in the women's divisions today. It's entirely between the years,

539
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: like the the only she even admits like that this

540
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Spartify was awful.

541
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 6: Don't know what happened, and she's just prone to that.

542
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 6: She is very mercurial in that sort of way.

543
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: And so that's why I say, like, I wouldn't be

544
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: confident she's going to beat Monofiro because I don't know

545
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: she's going to show up and just might be like, yo,

546
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling it today, and that that will be

547
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: a tough night at the office for But if she

548
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: is actually dialed in, if if that sixteen months off

549
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, you know, I'd spent my time on

550
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: the farm, I'm ready to get back after this and

551
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: pursue greatness and get a second belt et cetera. I

552
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: think she has a really good chance to do it.

553
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: I don't think she's going to hold the belt. I

554
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 2: believe Aaron Blanchfield is the best flyweight on earth and

555
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: it is just a matter of time and she holds

556
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: that belt forever. But I think Rose stacks up well

557
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: to win this fight if she's dialed in, and similarly

558
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: well to beat Alexa Grossler she's dialed in Valentina Schipchenko.

559
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: I think she's fifty to fifty proposition against ship Chank,

560
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 2: only that's like the people she's looking at. Yeah, it's

561
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: terrific fight. So I think she's got a really good

562
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: chance to do that. It is entirely if she is

563
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: focused on the mission ahead and not distracted or just

564
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: has an off night.

565
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's like I've never seen an athlete at

566
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: the highest level. Like here's here's the comparison. If you

567
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: watch old documentaries in the talking about the John Wooden

568
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: UCLA dynasty, that you know one of the Wooden quirks

569
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: was always they never actually prepared for the opponent, They

570
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: never scouted the opponent, and it was always only about

571
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: preparing themselves to be the very best. And that's sort

572
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: of this ideal Zen philosophy that nothing else matters but myself.

573
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: But like yet, we all can relate to Rose because

574
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: we all get in our own way constantly. I don't

575
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen an athlete at this level in

576
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: a singular sport where it is so dependent upon the

577
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: personal battle with herself. And if everything's good, she's one

578
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: of the greatest that's ever done this. So on any

579
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: given night, and yes, especially against Farroh, you gotta like

580
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: her chances, but there are questions, so that fuels the odds.

581
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Caesars currently minus one ninety Pharah Rose at plus one sixty,

582
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: So big fight. Either winner is gonna love that underdog

583
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: BC love that dog pick. I love that Rose dog

584
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: pick by the way right there. I don't know she's

585
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to be busy in that first round though,

586
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, with just three rounds to play here, you know,

587
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you can let Faroh get off and

588
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: establish herself. You've got to wrote that Rose jab into

589
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: that left hook has got to be big here. You

590
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: gotta you know what I'm saying, And then we'll see

591
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: what she can do on the ground. But I want

592
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: to give her she got hit her. I just punched.

593
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. We haven't really seen minag get like

594
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: punched hard and Rose can do that. And I would

595
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: very much just like to see how Mana reacts when

596
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: she is not dictating the fight entirely, which I think

597
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Rose could do.

598
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I can't. You know, Look, you're

599
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: the master of the clean, hard, hot take where I

600
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: have to go. You know, I may not agree with that,

601
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: but I sure respect it. It's hard for me to

602
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: push against anything you said about. Hey, this division is

603
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: so fun and it's great, but it's Blancefield's division, you know,

604
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: as soon.

605
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: As they give her that chance the women.

606
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I did question you know how good blanche

607
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: Shield really was, because I know how good Tyler Sentos was.

608
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: Well.

609
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: Blanchield passed that test. She passed it, you know, very

610
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: and I actually I prefer that she passed it facing

611
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: adversity because we got to see more of her character.

612
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: But it will be interesting because this could be Grosso's era.

613
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: For all we know, chef Chenko's favored to win back

614
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: the belt. We have no idea this Mom and Rose

615
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: a monster threat or is this just more of a

616
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: fun ceremonial run Fara may may do Faro things, you know.

617
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine.

618
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Faro could be Grosso and we got something she can

619
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: beat Chipchenko. I think she could be Grosso.

620
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I think so too if she fought her fight in

621
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: that regard elsewhere on this card. I mean it's I mean,

622
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: what do you say about this month in general?

623
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: We have this card which is like a.

624
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Really good but not great, then you got UFC two

625
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: ninety three, which is just not great at all, and

626
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: then you got NOCE, which is pretty damn good for

627
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: an in between free fight night card that's probably better

628
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: than the pay per view before it. Are you satisfied

629
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: with what we're getting here in France? It does feel

630
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: like a big deal, but it's also not deep.

631
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: No, this is look, it's greedy to ask for a

632
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: lot more. August and July we're pretty strong, right like

633
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: that the summer run for the UFC, there were duds

634
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: in there. Night here to say that all the everything

635
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: was a winner, but pretty good. This this pairs card

636
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: is very very mediocre to bad. It's a three fight card.

637
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: The top three fights are really good and there's maybe

638
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 2: some interest in the rest of it, but outside of that,

639
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: there's nothing much going on. Two ninety three is garbage.

640
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: It is half a fight card depending on how much

641
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: you care about the main event.

642
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: That's it.

643
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: And so September is it's a down month, like notcha.

644
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: The main event is fun. There a couple other fights

645
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: or potential fights, like I don't know if Shavcott's still

646
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: going to fight on that card. That card looked great

647
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: on paper a month ago, and we've had some fallout,

648
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: so we'll see how that ends up shaking down. But look,

649
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: not every month is going to be great, and we're

650
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: coming off of very strong summer, so I'm open to

651
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: giving the UFC a pass on this just being a

652
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: largely spin your wheels kind.

653
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Of as Luke Thomas once said, a smash pass. I

654
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: think he was talking about wrestling, but I was talking

655
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: more about open marriages. And did you see that Sean

656
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: O'Malley revealed that Vitor Belfort took issue with his King

657
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: of the Castle comments and and uh and uh said

658
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: he'll kick his ass to I don't know, to defend

659
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: the sanctity of marriage. I don't know.

660
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: That's that's interesting. That's interesting, you know, I didn't see

661
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: that good. Everyone with a functioning cerebral cortec should take

662
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: issue with shout a malex comic. Good to know that

663
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: Vitor doesn't have that much CTE.

664
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's that's what you're gonna turn. You're

665
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: gonna turn some listeners off with that type of direct,

666
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: abject honesty when it comes to the rest of this card, though,

667
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Ben Walt Santani.

668
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: That's delivery said, that's a three flight card. Baby is

669
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: that silk?

670
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: That was like silk right there? That delivery he's taking

671
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: on Thiago moistest Is. Does are you getting like Tom Duke?

672
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: And while vibes as like the next French hot thing

673
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: that's coming on. I mean Tom was unable to you know,

674
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: put it all together in the end, but he was

675
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: my boy for a short season, so it was dohu CHOI.

676
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: I really thought Korean super was going to take over

677
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: the world. You know. I also got truck caught thinking

678
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: that my guy at featherweight too a Sabat was gonna

679
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: be the greatest fighter ever. Sometimes you know, you can't

680
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: pick who you love. They they pick you in the end,

681
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

682
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: So, uh, how good is BSD two of the people

683
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: you listed retired for really no reason while still being

684
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: very good. Dukanwall was like eleven and one or something.

685
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: It was great, and it was just like, no, I'm

686
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: gonna go do something that's better monetarily for me and

687
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: zabitza doctor.

688
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Now, I mean Troy was in some wars Troy brought.

689
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean he some gave. I mean he gave all.

690
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest.

691
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, screen througher Boy is awesome, so I

692
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: think it's fine to have been. Those are three very

693
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: explicable bandwagons who have joined. Uh well, just unlucky that

694
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: two of them retires.

695
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I just follow my heart and sometimes it misleads me.

696
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Is BSD coming on right now?

697
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: What do you got? Yeah? I really like him. I

698
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: mean he's just one of those dudes you can kind

699
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: of to do everything and do it pretty well. His

700
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: last fight against his Ishmael Bombfime, I'd say the lesser

701
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: of the Bombfime brothers, but I don't remember if he

702
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: is a betting underdog. I feel like he was. I

703
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: mean he looked awesome, just whipping kicks to the body,

704
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: and then he has a very predatory ground games great

705
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: and scrambles great with transitions. I think that that's what

706
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: I love this fight. On the merits of the fight itself,

707
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: I think Ben moles Antoni Tagamoye has is the most

708
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: fun in cage product because the main event is a yes,

709
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: no question, Conciro goondafin takedown is gonna win?

710
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: Okay.

711
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: The co main event feels it has like maybe two questions,

712
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: but it's hey, is Rose focused and is this weight

713
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: change gonna adversely affect her? And if not, I think

714
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: she should.

715
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: This not a two question fight that fights the fight

716
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: of the weekend, So why don't you just you know,

717
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: bite your own tongue.

718
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: There, all right? Please, it's the fight of the weekend.

719
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: As like, this is the one that matters the most

720
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: and is a good competitive matchup, But the fight that's

721
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: gonna be the most fun is in aeg moist sets.

722
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: If these two get just scrambling, it is going to

723
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: be wild. You're a boxing guy, so you don't care.

724
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: That's probably why you're not appreciating this. But Luke, if

725
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: he was here, he would be like, Yeah, the scrambles

726
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: and this are going to be sick and if not,

727
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: they're both like competent kickboxers. Both kick a lot, throw

728
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: a lot of heat, like his fight's going to be

729
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: incredibly fun. I think Ben was on Denia is on

730
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: the ascension, and so I'm picking him to win. But uh,

731
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: Thiago Moystess has been really good for a really long time,

732
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: like a top twenty ish lightweight, and it's impossible to

733
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: be a top twenty lightweight in the world, So you

734
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: got to give that man his due.

735
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: You're still on this vibe that lightweights still the best

736
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: division in the sport. It is either way. You just

737
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: pop the back room with the last rank. Congratulations a

738
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: BSD minus one sixty plus one thirty five moistest. Look,

739
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I still kind of care about I still have time

740
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: for no time vulcan Os Demir, I still kind of

741
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: care if there's something there. H here's the deal. He's

742
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: only thirty three, but you know he swings big. He's

743
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: one big, he's one. He's lost disastrous lee he's currently

744
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: lost three of four. There's only one knockout in there,

745
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: and that was Sapperhatska and it was, you know, absolute.

746
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: War and it was one of the most brutal KOs

747
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: of all time.

748
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: But there is some element here of vulcan trying to

749
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: hang onto his job and his placement in general. He's

750
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: undefeated in Fort Lauderdale Bars. Just for the record, you know,

751
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why th that joke always. You know,

752
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: it's not working, it's not landing anymore. Yet I'm still

753
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Sully Selenberg in there trying to be a hero. Bogden

754
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: Gooskov is not a household name, but if you look

755
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: him up, if you go to the Suir Dog page,

756
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: if you look at the recent results, this guy is

757
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: an absolute terror globally in terms of KO one. He's

758
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: a hammer. So is this get well vulcan ostamir or

759
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: is this we're gonna use you one more time to

760
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: put over the new hammer that who has arrived.

761
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm really happy that I actually studied this week because

762
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Bogden is good at fighting. He you

763
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: are correct. He has just been blowing the doors off people,

764
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: and that's they're all bad. Everybody's blowing the doors off

765
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: is not very good, and so that's that's important. If

766
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna fight somebody bad, you should impress. And he's

767
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: doing that. But like if you just watch him. I

768
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: was talking about this with podcast earlier this week.

769
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: He's like.

770
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: Some some of I don't I don't have the words

771
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: for some of fight breakdown stuff. I'm just like you

772
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: can just look at somebody and know if they have

773
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: it or not. You can just watch the way they

774
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: move and like, Okay, that guy is moving differently. That's

775
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: box is. He's just a dude. He is just another guy.

776
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: Uh.

777
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Vulcan Form's lost a lot lot. I'm not here to

778
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: refute that the former title challenger. Could you put some

779
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: respect back on his name? Okay, yeah, former title challenger,

780
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: he's lost.

781
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: The really good dudes, Nikita Kriloff I never is very underrated,

782
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: like a really really solid top to bottom fighter. Macamenaklive

783
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: is probably the actual best light heavyweight in the world,

784
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: and Yuri Prahashka is the best light heavyweight the world

785
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: by name. So like, that's three pretty decent longs.

786
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Them pretty just before that, what them cough the heavyweight

787
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: he's pretty He's a pretty damn good light heavyweight.

788
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, but right before

789
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: the Prahashka loss too, he'd beat Alexander Rackets, who's like

790
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: a top five dude.

791
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Like Fulcan still has ability.

792
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever going to be a champion,

793
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: but he is only thirty three, so who the hell knows?

794
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: Glover become became champion at forty five? Whatever? Yeah, hell

795
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: he did so well, it's.

796
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Possible, is light heavyweight becoming the same reputation of heavyweight

797
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: where age doesn't matter, and and it is possible to

798
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: like completely not only reinvent yourself, which Glover did, but

799
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Glover also just it was really the consistency over the

800
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: long low Glover never really got awful, yet he suffered

801
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: like violent Chao losses. Really like Okay, maybe this is

802
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end. But does age matter anymore

803
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: at two a five? I mean, DC was the champion

804
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: at an advanced age at different story.

805
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: But you get it, you get it. Yeah, it probably

806
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: still matters some but yeah, it's heavyweight and heavyweight for

807
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: all intensive purposes of the same weight class. Like there

808
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: are like six good fighters in each of them, and

809
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: the rest of it is a medley of mediocrity. So

810
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: you can thrive if you are good. You can certainly

811
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: thrive for a very long time. And look if Vulcan,

812
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: it wouldn't shock me if Vulcan Kit kept fighting for

813
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: another seven years, like it seems entirely possible. Again, I

814
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna get the belt, but he has

815
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: proven himself to be a good fighter, and Bogden Gushkov

816
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: has very much not proven that to me. So I

817
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: still believe that there's no time like the present for

818
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: no time Wow.

819
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: HTK the hot take kid Jed Mishu back on it

820
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: and slinging it one more piece of business to get

821
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: you on the MMA side interested to hear it out.

822
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: It seems Sergey Pavlovich is going to serve as the

823
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: backup for the Madison Square Garden November heavyweight you know

824
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: history at Steak Showdown, the greatest heavyweight champion in UFC history,

825
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: step Amochich against the greatest fighter and John Jones and

826
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: the current champion, so jet if this is true as

827
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: it goes down in Pavlovich's is the great glass in

828
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: case of emergency? Does this mean that if Steve A

829
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: gets COVID the day of the fight, John Jones has

830
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: to fight Pavlovitch under these circumstances? I mean, this is

831
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: a there's this is a pretty you know when when

832
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: when Dan Quayle was the vice president, right they were

833
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: they were a little bit nervous. You know, if something

834
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: happened to uh to big Bush right, you know what

835
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean?

836
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 8: Uh that?

837
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: You know what, would they be in good hands there?

838
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: You think Jones would accept this situation and fight Sergey

839
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: Pavlovitch under these terms.

840
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: No, that's not a hot This isn't even a hot

841
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: take like we've seen him say. No, this man refused

842
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: to fight chail son In on like a week's notice.

843
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: He's jail son In. Jail son In.

844
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: It was the Dan Henderson situation too, write you is

845
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: that you two?

846
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was supposed to be Dan Henderson. Dan pulled out,

847
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm not fighting shale Son and he

848
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: fought him a month later and beat the brakes off

849
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: him and should have just fought him because it was

850
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: a whole thing we did a day and they were

851
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: a good episode and you what fifty one actually because

852
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: it was an insane thing that happened and he caused

853
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: all this drama and totally respect it, Like you you're

854
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: preparing for one dude as a professional athlete. That makes sense.

855
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's no risk to fighting

856
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: jail son In. What's he gonna do?

857
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Bleed on you?

858
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: There's nothing that could happen, So there's no chance he's

859
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: gonna turn down jail piece Son And notice, up a

860
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: weight class.

861
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Depends on the venue, Like if that was held at

862
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: a hallway at the Luxer after hours, you know, all

863
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: bets are off. And indeed, on that point, it's interesting

864
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: because like we want fighters to have more of the

865
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: more of a say and be more well respected at

866
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: like the negotiation table and fighter advocacy and rites and

867
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: all that, and it's true, I mean, it's a big

868
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: part of this era of the UFC and simultaneously MMA's

869
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: history on year thirty. So should we support more when

870
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: people do the WonderBoy thing just then of not wanting

871
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: to fight Michelle Paday after missing way but also not

872
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: getting his show money. But maybe, you know, maybe he's

873
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: in a spot where that's not gonna make or break him.

874
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: But he took a strategic decision. You don't always see

875
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: that because the UFC hates it and most guys don't

876
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: have the leverage or the backbone to do what Jones did.

877
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: And Jones became a villain in the UFC's eyes after

878
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: refusing to fight Chail. In the scenario that you're mentioning

879
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: should we support decisions if that would like normally, this

880
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: would never be a conversation of if the you know,

881
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: if the fight falls apart, well, the champion still face

882
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the replacement. And it's not as if this is John

883
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: fully on record saying he wouldn't. But you're okay with

884
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: that in this type of scenario where the champion should

885
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: be able to protect the house and say, no, I

886
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: didn't prepare for that guy, book me again down the road.

887
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: I mean, we should support John fully if we care

888
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: about fighters, you know, having a say.

889
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: In their own dangerous journey here. Yeah, like you you're

890
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: signed on to fight some dude under the like I

891
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: want to fight this dude at this time, under these circumstances,

892
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: and you agree to it and then shuffling the deck

893
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: a week a month before it's it's just not the same.

894
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: I would fully support him. Uh, the UFC would not.

895
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: In a good portion of the fan base would be furious.

896
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: But I particularly support him because Sergey Pavlovitch is in

897
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: no way the same fighter as Steep I much like

898
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: it's just a hugely different.

899
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Like.

900
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: I still thought it was totally fine for him to

901
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: turn down jail Son in there is at least a

902
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: part of my brain can wrap around the idea that, well,

903
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: going from Dan Henderson to jail Son and is like

904
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: fighting at Tiger. But then you've removed the clause because

905
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: you no longer even have to worry about the H bomb.

906
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: It's you're fighting bad at Dan Henderson, so it's fine,

907
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Like this is this would not be the same. Instead

908
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: of fighting old steep A, you're fighting a dude who,

909
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, actually possesses a nuclear

910
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: weapon in both of his fists. True, because he touches

911
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: people and they die Like I don't He's not even

912
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: hitting them that hard, like he's not swinging hard and

913
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: they are melting. So yeah, I would for sure be like,

914
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, don't want to fight that dude. He's

915
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: got really good timing and if he touches me, I'll

916
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: fall over and die. So I think it would totally

917
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: makes sense. I also think, on the other side of it,

918
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: if John pulls up off for whatever reason, it seems

919
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: really unlikely that Stepe would take this, and I totally

920
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: support it, which means the UFC needs to have a

921
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: really strong co main event because this announcing Sergey as

922
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: the backup. This is a ceremonial backup fighter role. He's

923
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: just the dude they've anointed as next in line, and

924
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: that's totally fine. But we should all go into this

925
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: with eyes wide open. Wow.

926
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, let's have an eyes wide shut, no

927
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: pants party there with Tom and Nicole. Camera back on me.

928
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: There we go, Jed mesh a great mask this we're trying.

929
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: To do that.

930
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, only the elites roll like that. I'm sure

931
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Dane has been to those parties. I'm sure he's had

932
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: a few of them.

933
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: Jed.

934
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate you for sliding in in Luke's absence. Luke's

935
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: going to recover, but we love the work you do

936
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: over there at five. I mean, look, you're not for everybody, okay.

937
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: You bring a different breed of truth and honesty and

938
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: it sometimes it hurts. Sometimes you leave a mark.

939
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, not everybody likes straight shooters PC. That's on them.

940
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: That's not a me problem.

941
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 9: You know.

942
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: The thing about Caine, he was always a straight shooter, right,

943
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he would or at least shoot first, right.

944
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the accuracy had luckily, I don't know.

945
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: You ever get off an exit and you realize you're

946
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: in the wrong part of town.

947
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

948
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to get fired. Excuse me?

949
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: Can you give me directions to the interstate?

950
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: Fuck yo, mama.

951
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great moment from vacation there. Luke

952
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: went a pop for that.

953
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: Jed.

954
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: We can find your work on MMA Fighting dot Com,

955
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: a great website. What else you do behind the bets below.

956
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: The bets something like that, right, no bets barred. There

957
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: it is, and I'm usually on between the links every

958
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: every week. That's our you know what.

959
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: That show needs to get some respect put on it

960
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: for the voters of the World MMA Awards. Okay, that's

961
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: one of the better shows out there. And it's not

962
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: just because I've got an undefeated strake who went appearing

963
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: as a celebrity guest. That's Jed k Mischeu, the second

964
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Atlanta's most eligible lawyer at the moment.

965
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: There you go.

966
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, go dogs back at it here. Thank you so

967
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: much to Jed. Like I said, this will be a

968
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a shit show, So we're gonna roll

969
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: the dice a little bit. We're gonna have a recurring wheel.

970
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: And what I want you to also do if you've

971
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: got questions. At the end of the show, this will

972
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: probably devolve into a BC live chat, So put the question,

973
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, take the normal missage and you know they're

974
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: awful stuff that's going on in the live chat with

975
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: the p one eiest of the p Ones, the Day

976
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: one p Ones, the different breed. You know, they're the

977
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: bananas that never actually turn yellow, and you're like, is

978
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: it safe to eat this? Send the questions right there.

979
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: But now it's time before we get back into more

980
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: news and nuggets to spin this wheel. So we you know, look,

981
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: this was you know what I always said about pro

982
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: wrestling when I was really into it. The best times

983
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: in pro wrestling is when something in real life happens

984
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: that screws up whatever blame storyline they were building anyway,

985
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: like somebody in real life gets hurt or whatever, and

986
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta change that paper of view in

987
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: the last minute, and then they just suddenly you get

988
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: this dream matchup with this great storyline and everything works out.

989
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, we had we had to go

990
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: to the bullpen here, not just for Jed but our

991
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: team and say, you know, you may have to help

992
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: fill in for Luke today. We may have to get

993
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 1: deep into your personal life and unveil you to the people. Okay,

994
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: they even't want to do this for a while, all right,

995
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: this will be really weird. There's also challenges on here.

996
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to the wheel here, let's do it all

997
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: right as you as you may or may not be

998
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: able to see. There's you know, shots of tiger thick whiskey.

999
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things on here that people don't

1000
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: want to do. Okay, drink beer or talk about themselves.

1001
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: Here we go.

1002
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: You get what you get, and you don't get upset.

1003
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: All right.

1004
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: The suspense is killing me and our ratings. This is great,

1005
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: yeah right, yeah, all right, there it is.

1006
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: This is this is Gaff.

1007
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: Let's welcome him up, folks, a a a native of

1008
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: Long Island, one of the finest producers in the history

1009
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: of morning combat. And you know, is it a victory

1010
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: that you beat Jay Air and I don't know. Let's

1011
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: bring him on, Gaffney Pierre, everybody. Yeah, let's get to

1012
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: know our staff better here, all right, Gaff slide in here.

1013
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: First of all, Gaff, could you show the people this

1014
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: tremendous T shirt that you brought for us today? John

1015
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Bones Jones and you don't when you don't wear that

1016
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: ironically right, like you rep the goat, you rep the

1017
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: go Okay from New York, he's from New York. Geff,

1018
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: you've been called the the best MMA fan who works

1019
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: on this show, and that's including Luke and Ike.

1020
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: Is that that's still that's still the.

1021
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 8: Case, right, There's some good ones on here. Christan's a

1022
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 8: pretty big fan. Jake's a pretty big fan. Also, Long Island.

1023
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 8: Luke can't forget Long Island. Luke's shout out to the

1024
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 8: team here. You were correct me if I'm wrong on

1025
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 8: your origin story.

1026
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: You are a p one of m K oh yeah yeah,

1027
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: in like the very early days, who then got a

1028
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: job opportunity that just happened to be working on MK exactly.

1029
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 8: So Corey was working on the show he started it,

1030
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 8: and I used to work with him at my old job,

1031
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 8: and I was always texting him about the show, saying like, oh,

1032
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 8: this looks good, this that looks good. I like the

1033
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 8: guys what they're talking about. Maybe they should talk about this.

1034
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 8: And one day he actually just hit me up. He's like, Hey,

1035
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 8: we're looking for a producer. Would you be interested?

1036
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome? Come on obviously I have would take the job. So, yeah,

1037
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: what what are you know? We've seen it come out

1038
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: a little bit in the documentaries that you know, this

1039
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: can be a demanding job, and sometimes maybe some of

1040
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: our hosts on this show tell it like it is

1041
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: and how it could be, how it was, and of

1042
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: course how it should be, but sometimes you know, we

1043
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: go too far. What are the biggest challenges in keeping.

1044
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: MK on the road?

1045
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Here? Last minute adds, I'd probably say, so where we hey,

1046
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: we need you to download fifteen videos and fifteen seconds

1047
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: yeh yeah, yeah, those and so we're like we want

1048
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: to switch the show completely fifteen minutes before we go live.

1049
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Those will be the issues that come up. But like,

1050
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: other than that, it's pretty smooth, right, So you've been

1051
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: integral part of the heart and soul of this show.

1052
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: Has there been a moment in this show's history that

1053
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: for you, as the team player, as the lover of

1054
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: MMA and MK, that that has been like that was it?

1055
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: That was freaking awesome. A lot of the RSDs make

1056
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 8: me feel like that. We get a lot of good

1057
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 8: content and answers from those people.

1058
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: And you tend to be in the hotel room on

1059
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: the road like actually producing and directing it. We do

1060
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: most of these. Y.

1061
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 8: Yes, I'll be on site talking to the talent, just

1062
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 8: making sure everybody's good, making sure they're whoever comes with

1063
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 8: them can find a place to hang out, that they're

1064
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 8: comfortable and they know what they're doing, what they're going

1065
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 8: to talk about. So yeah, i'd probably say the RSDs

1066
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 8: and then our live shows when we actually get to

1067
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 8: be in front of our fans.

1068
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: Those honestly do everything.

1069
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there's a few there's a few odd ones.

1070
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: There's a few odd ducks in that pool, but they're

1071
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: really nice people. Yeah, these people shout out Jake Buquette, Wow,

1072
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: some love all the way from Mount You Nike back

1073
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: to here. I said you were a Long Island native,

1074
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: are actually a New York City guy?

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00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 10: Right?

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00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: Well, I was born in Brooklyn, but I've lived on

1077
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Long Island since I was like six.

1078
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: So do you like, do you rep Long Island in

1079
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: your heart?

1080
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: Or is it Brooklyn? Like?

1081
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Brooklyn is Long Island. If we're gonna get technic, wow,

1082
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna get technical here. Brooklyn is Long Island. It's

1083
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: the beginning of it. Yeah, far left of it, all right, Gaff,

1084
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: you also correct me if I'm wrong. In addition to

1085
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: being you're into music, you're ah, what would you call yourself?

1086
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: A songwriter? Performing artist?

1087
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1088
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: I make hip hop music often spaced and talking about

1089
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: like that. We got a lot of talent on this team.

1090
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: You also told me that you were a decent football player.

1091
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: Is this true? Yeah?

1092
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 8: I played in high school. Yeah, I played both ways.

1093
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 8: Puffs Yeah, well on that. No time to get back

1094
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 8: at at gaff Pier. It's been a pleasure, can we tell.

1095
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean somebody one time got an MK tattoo and

1096
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: then they disappeared from our lives and it was you know,

1097
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: Damian the Donk, And we don't know if he's you know,

1098
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: if he's in San Quentin right now, but you once

1099
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: and still have because it's for life in this part

1100
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: in MK tat on that on that sleeve, which is

1101
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the M to

1102
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: the K right there. See, Gaff, we need people on

1103
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: this show that that'll bleed for us, that'll go to

1104
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: bath for us. And I appreciate you and thank you

1105
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: from that regard gafter everybody, thank you, thank you, meet

1106
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: the staff. That's part of what we do here on

1107
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: days that that that we have to scramble and ramble

1108
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. But much love out to Luke Thomas.

1109
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll be back on Monday. There it is, and

1110
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: just remember it's Columbia, not Columbia at the end of

1111
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: the day. Hey, one more news item here before it

1112
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: probably gets weirder. We speculated about this on Wednesday show

1113
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: because the thirty day deadline had seemed to come and

1114
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: pass with no news.

1115
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: Is that good news?

1116
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: On a lack of a rematch for Spence Crawford now

1117
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: under the rules of their July twenty ninth super fight,

1118
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: which of course Crawford dominated stop Darrel Spence to become

1119
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the first four belt undisputed welterweight champion. Either fighter could

1120
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: kick in the rematch, but it's the winner of the

1121
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: fight Crawford, who can set the weight. We hadn't heard officially,

1122
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: but it turns out it was an eleventh hour moment

1123
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: in decision which was expected all along, apparently from the

1124
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: Spence camp and Brian McIntyre Bowmack, the trainer of Terrence Crawford,

1125
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: seemed to break the news publicly.

1126
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: And let's go to that videotape now.

1127
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Spence.

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00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 8: Spits Spence activated his rematch, is that polymnah?

1129
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he just activated.

1130
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: Uh confirmed, huh that's confunded match confirm, but we don't.

1131
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: We'll have a date and stuff like that.

1132
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, since you expect out thoughts off before the end

1133
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: of the year. I'm hoping, I'm hoping it's just uh

1134
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: mel alji over there. That was a great bite there

1135
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: from Bowmack, who is in the UK last minute trainer

1136
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: switched there for Chris you Bank Junior against Liam Smith

1137
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: and their big rematch. Remember Liam Smith had the upset

1138
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: knockout out in the fourth round, but there was a

1139
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: whole idea with throwing in the towel and you Bank

1140
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: now got rid of Roy Jones's trainer and has a

1141
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: no towel rule even if he's bleeding or sweating, a

1142
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: no towel rule in the corner ahead of Saturday's rematch.

1143
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: So Bullmack, who usually uses a sweat towel everywhere he

1144
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: goes one of the best trainers in the world. By

1145
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: the way, let's give bo Mack his flowers. He'll let's

1146
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: see what he can do with you Bank. But speaking

1147
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: of the no throw the towel at the way in

1148
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: this morning, Team Liam Smith was We'll get back into

1149
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Spens in a second, but let's close out on Bullmack.

1150
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Team Liam Smith was saying, here's your towel right here.

1151
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: Let's check out what happened. Bowmack almost got a little

1152
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: on him there, but a little fun and games play

1153
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: there from Liam Smith in company. The news from Bullmack, though,

1154
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: is what we're t talking about. Should Errol Spence activate

1155
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the rematch cause well he did what we don't officially

1156
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: know yet, although Team Spence and his trainer Derek James

1157
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: have confirmed multiple helets that it did happen. Is when

1158
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: would the fight happen. There's some debate in the language

1159
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: of the contract that a rematch would have to be

1160
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: at the end of this calendar year, which is or

1161
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: by the end of this calendar year, which is why

1162
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: even fight night in Spence Crawford everybody was so easily

1163
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: talking about let's see you again, We'll do the rematch

1164
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: in December. Well, Spence is going to do it, but

1165
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: I believe that the weight in what Crawford ends up

1166
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: deciding will ultimately decide if not only if this happens,

1167
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: but if it should happen and all that. So let's

1168
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: talk about a few things. Should Errol Spence do it?

1169
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: It depends on what you really took away from the

1170
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: Crawford fight. And this is not like, not meant under

1171
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: any circumstances, take anything away. Crawford rose to the occasion

1172
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: and then rose higher and showed us his greatness on

1173
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: a level that we're actually openly debating if he should

1174
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: move up three weight divisions in fight Alfarez for all

1175
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: four belts. The fact that we're even talking about this

1176
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: and getting people involved in saying you in on it,

1177
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: you and on it just speaks to exactly what Crawford

1178
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: did that night. And if you go back and rewatch

1179
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: the fight, for as one sided as it was, Spence

1180
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: had moments, not a lot, but he had moments where

1181
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: he bit down the mouthguard, went in with big shots

1182
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: and Crawford just bounced off of them, took them and

1183
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: kept going and he was brilliant. But that's not Erl Spence, right,

1184
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: that's not the Earl Spence we've come to known as

1185
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: the you know, as a previously unbeaten unified champion. It

1186
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: wasn't just that Crawford was even better than expected and

1187
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: because the expectations were about, you know, a classic fight

1188
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: of fifty to fifty fight. He was better than that,

1189
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: but that wasn't Spence. So the real question, there's two

1190
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: of them, is should Spence take it physically? Because there

1191
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: were a lot of people afterwards saying, look, due to

1192
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: how damaging the one sided knockout loss was, and we

1193
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: know Spence is a dog. He kept coming and he

1194
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: would have kept coming. You package that with the accidents

1195
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: and the hard weightcuts and all that. Yeah, there could

1196
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: be some questions here, but I also think Spence has

1197
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: deserves the respect and reserves the right for us to

1198
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: give him a chance at coming back.

1199
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: Particularly at one fifty four.

1200
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: So if this fight is at one fifty four, there's

1201
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: another conversation about how do you sell it?

1202
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: For sure?

1203
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: But should it happen? I think that's the only way

1204
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: you're really gonna decide something. It'd be nice if there

1205
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: was a title at stake, but you can't because Jamel

1206
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: Charlow has all four belts at one fifty four and

1207
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: he's fighting Canelo September thirtieth, and then once that fight starts,

1208
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: one of the organizations is going to strip Charlo of

1209
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: one of the belts, and then Tim Zuo's going to

1210
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: fight it and probably defend against Brian Mendoz, although I

1211
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: don't know if that's official, so you can't put a

1212
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: title at stake. But Crawford had said after this fight

1213
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: that if they did do it a second time, if

1214
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: Spence had activated it, he would want it at one

1215
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: fifty four. The one forty seven weight cuts weren't great

1216
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: for him either, and I do think when it comes

1217
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: to Crawford further enhancing his greatness, look well, we all

1218
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: wanted to fight bout tennis and defend all four titles,

1219
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: of course we would, but he has big opportunities that

1220
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: are like there to be great opportunities fighting Charlo for

1221
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: all four belts, fighting Canelo, as I mentioned, just moving

1222
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: up it seems to make sense for him if you

1223
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: do this at one p fifty four. I think we

1224
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: reserve the right to say, okay, Spence show us that

1225
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: the first fight was about Crawford's dominance, but there were

1226
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: also something to be said about that that wasn't Aerol

1227
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: Spence that night, so was it the weight cut? I

1228
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: think in this case Errol Spence has been almost too

1229
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: much of a gamer and you can argue and debate this,

1230
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: meaning he will not ask you a whisper of an excuse.

1231
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: And ultimately, yes, that's how we want our athletes to behave,

1232
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: That's how champions behave. No, I'm not going to fly

1233
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: out and excuse font an excuse. Some guys do, but

1234
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: they use that excuse to sort of deceive themselves, remotivate themselves.

1235
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: You've got to constantly be a conment to yourself in

1236
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: some ways to get the best out of yourself. I

1237
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: think I almost want Errol to be fully honest here.

1238
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: I almost want him to go against that normal nature,

1239
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: not from a standpoint of WELLBC, don't you kind of

1240
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: work for show and you're all under the paramount banner

1241
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: and this rematch would probably be a showtime pay per

1242
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: view and you'd probably really want it.

1243
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: To do well.

1244
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course all of that also for the state

1245
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: of boxing and all of that. But I think if

1246
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: you are going to sell this rematch, and you can

1247
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: get it at one fifty four, if Crawford agrees to it,

1248
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: you got to tell what would be the truthful story.

1249
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: How do you explain why that fight was so one sided,

1250
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: why Spence really couldn't get anything going. If it is

1251
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: the weycut, I'd want to hear that. I don't think

1252
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: you'd take anything away from him. Spence has been one

1253
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: forty seven his entire career. I mean he fought in

1254
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: like the amershurs. I think at one fifty two, like

1255
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: he's He's always been huge. It's, you know, unfortunate that

1256
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: it was the biggest fight of his life here where

1257
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: this happened. But he also took off big gaps between fights. Yeah,

1258
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: he looked incredible against Ugas, but when you're cutting weight

1259
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: in such physically taxing way for being so big, and

1260
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't assume it's an easy cut either for Crawford,

1261
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: who didn't complain about having a bad cut, but also,

1262
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: like I said, was quick to say, hey, maybe we

1263
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: should do the rematch at fifty four. I do believe

1264
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the way cut could have played a factor. Could that

1265
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,479
Speaker 1: make Spence you know, better at the new weight? Could

1266
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: this fight look completely different and be more competit?

1267
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1268
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: I probably could. Now what does that do to the

1269
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: potential selling of it? In the marketing of it, there

1270
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: is potential hurdles there if you want it to be

1271
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: a blockbuster. I think though, that there are angles and

1272
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: questions that we don't know the answers to. I don't

1273
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: think Spence is completely done. I don't think that. I

1274
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: think that was the perfect night for Crawford simultaneously the

1275
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: worst night for Spence, and let's give him the respect

1276
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: to see if he can do a run at fifty four.

1277
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: Would I like instead, if you know, Spence was testing

1278
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: the waters first to fifty four, maybe fighting Zoo, maybe

1279
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: fighting another you know, former title challenger on that level,

1280
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but it's on him business wise. He

1281
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Speaker 1: has the rematch clause. They negotiate it for a reason.

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Speaker 1: We got excited about the potential of a rematch for

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Speaker 1: a reason. I get that the first fight didn't play

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Speaker 1: out in a way that screamed the need for it.

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Speaker 1: And is there a need? No, I would say, in

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Speaker 1: terms of the boxing, fan of me would like to

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Speaker 1: see right now, as much as I'm so frickin dialed

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Speaker 1: in on Canelo Charlow, I want to see what Crawford

1289
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: would look like against the winner or loser of that fight.

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Speaker 1: Those are huge fights. But there was a reason we

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Speaker 1: got all excited about Spence Crawford to begin with. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it does look different. At fifty four, it's still gonna

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Speaker 1: sell a certain amount. You still got two of the

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Speaker 1: best fighters of this era, right, you know, and in

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Speaker 1: some ways in terms of their own divisional history, two

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Speaker 1: of the best all time, No question about it. It

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Speaker 1: would be interesting to see. I mean, I do think

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Speaker 1: now there's way that you can be too aggressive in

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Speaker 1: telling a storyline or using an excuse.

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Speaker 2: You can also just lie in times. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Was Manny Pacquiao's shoulder superly affected he in the in

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Speaker 1: the Mayweather fight. Was that the reason that he couldn't

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: use that powerhand enough. He didn't say it after the

1304
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: fight in the post, in the interview, in the ring,

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: but then twenty minutes later at the press conference back

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Speaker 1: suddenly that's all he's talking about. So there has to

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: be some idea at that point of like, well, we

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01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: could use the shoulder as a story to sell that rematch,

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Speaker 1: that rematch that never ended up happening.

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Speaker 2: Was there a need for it?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, But uh, you know, the competitor in Spence,

1312
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: if he truly isn't done, he's gonna have something to

1313
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: say in a remat ATCHA At one fifty fourth, they

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Speaker 1: go in that direction, and I'd be interested in seeing

1315
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Speaker 1: that because he has that right. So if he's gonna

1316
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: do it anyway, let's see if it was the weight

1317
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: cutter one bad night and we all want to see

1318
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: Bud now see how great he can be. But he's

1319
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: got three you know, he's got two fights left on

1320
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: this PBC deal. Let's see, let's see what they can

1321
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Speaker 1: do with that, because there are some big super fight potentials,

1322
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Speaker 1: Like I said, winner or loser of Candelo versus Charlow,

1323
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Speaker 1: which is gonna be a really fun fight September thirtieth

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Speaker 1: on Showtime pay per view. That's the end of the

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Speaker 1: news that was. So we go back and roll the

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Speaker 1: dice on this mysterious wheel. Okay, I don't know are

1327
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: we gonna be talking to members of this team or

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Speaker 1: are we gonna be facetiming weirdos.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Happen, but let's see.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: You get what you get?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I just host the show, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I can't decide the future. What we do, though,

1336
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: is we try to take lemons and turn it into

1337
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: turn it into like lemonade, and right, what does that

1338
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: even say? Regular Jake, what does that mean? Oh oh sorry,

1339
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: it's like dude, love it was. Mick Foley was also

1340
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, mankind. Let's actually bring him in. I'm excited

1341
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: about this. One of the most integral members in the

1342
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: history of Morning Combat. You may have known him by

1343
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: some of the great roles he's played, including MK documentarian

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: and the incredible Canadian born Englishman Jake von Amsterdam, but

1345
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: you also may know him as a multi time award

1346
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: winning director. I mean, I don't know if he actually

1347
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: ever did win an award, but he won an award

1348
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Speaker 1: from my heart and that's Jake Roseman. Let's bring him

1349
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: out right now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, a big part of

1350
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: this MK family. Jake von Amsterdam was also an option

1351
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: on the Wheel. We didn't get him though, but Jake

1352
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: from New Jersey, you were. I mean, you've been an

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: Andy King type of guy for this show for a

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Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 2: Jake.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, Brian, happy to be here. Yes, yes, you're used

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01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 10: to my brother being on this show, but I guess

1358
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 10: you know it's time for me to go. You're split.

1359
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Speaker 10: Uh half brother that has been Jake von He's my

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01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 10: step half brother from Canada. Okay, did you would you

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 10: have to say mom or did you know? Yeah, it's

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01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 10: it's a whole, it's a big at least have a state.

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Speaker 1: Jake Von's mom has got it going and I don't

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01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: want that to be awkward between us. If you guys

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01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: share moms, you know, no, you know how it is

1366
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of Canadian stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah, we

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01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: have Canadian friends on this show. Have you met them

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Speaker 1: of course in London?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 2: Great?

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01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: People? Great? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fantastic, Jake, I do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, what's the future of the Docs? Is

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: Doc eight with the footage from London ever gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: We just don't know yet. We're hoping. We just don't know.

1375
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, last I was talking with my brother Jake Vaughan.

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01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: Well he's right now. He's in Siberia working on another project. Wow.

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Speaker 10: He said there was some budget issues with the last

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Speaker 10: doc and he's, uh, he's trying to work through, but

1379
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Speaker 10: he wants to work on it asap.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jake, I know you and Jake Von play a

1381
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: play a big role in the creative mind of this

1382
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: of the of this doc franchise.

1383
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: You know.

1384
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: Matt Snyder, who doesn't go on camera much, also it's

1385
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: just an irreplaceable part of the brain trust that has

1386
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: brought real life right, the growth of men, the ups

1387
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: and downs, the you know, and brought it to the

1388
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: masses in the form of cheap comedy and you know

1389
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: and brotherly roasting. But there's also an art to how

1390
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: these films have been constructed, the time put in, the delicacy,

1391
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: the music, the moments. What is it like to edit

1392
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: up such a sooux flet of emotion and testosterone like

1393
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: the MK documentary series.

1394
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 10: Well, from what I've seen of my brother's work, it

1395
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 10: seems like he has a lot of good content to

1396
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 10: work with. There's always ample storylines and silly things that

1397
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 10: happen with the crew and the cast.

1398
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: One thing I know is he misses Jay a lot,

1399
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: the former Mal Jason Aaron. Yes, oh sorry, Pennington James

1400
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: Professionton James.

1401
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 10: Yes, that guy was a line machine and he was

1402
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 10: always well FaceTime.

1403
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: Jay Aaron is one of the wheel stops today. So

1404
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: you never know what can happen here on morning con

1405
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: that our fingers across. I hope he's sitting by a

1406
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: piano if it does happen here, Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1407
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: Tickle those ivories yeah.

1408
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1409
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: How about you, Brian, what do you see you with

1410
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: the documentary's futures?

1411
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: How do you I see I see a closed future.

1412
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: I see a dead end side unfortunately, but my heart

1413
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: will go on near far wherever you are. But no, seriously,

1414
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: I would love Look, things are cyclical, there's always you know,

1415
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: you're always deal with budgets or you know, waiting on things.

1416
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: And MK fights and survives the docks will see another day.

1417
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: We have important footage there from London. I mean that

1418
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: was arguably, arguably earlier this year, the mountaintop moment. I mean,

1419
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: you've been along for every step of the MK ride.

1420
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: Was that the mountaintop moment when we went to London?

1421
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, the It was the biggest live show you

1422
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 10: guys had done at the time, and the fan out

1423
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 10: the support was tremendous.

1424
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you guys were rock stars. I heard that night.

1425
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: Then is this the lowest moment today as we scramble

1426
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: to create content together? I mean, this is pretty bad, right,

1427
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: this is the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great though. No,

1428
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: I believe the docs will have a future because our

1429
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: story is not over. It hasn't been fully told. And Jake,

1430
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: you know people always I'm sure they asked you on

1431
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: the street all the time, or are they you know

1432
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: you handle Jake Von's like social media and stuff, right,

1433
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: so you see the response of the people. They're always like, yeah,

1434
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: but is that actually real? Do Luke and Brian really

1435
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: not get along?

1436
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 10: Like?

1437
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: Is all that you know is? Are these Is this

1438
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: reality TV? Or is this just a hard ass dose

1439
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: of reality about what life is like? This is real?

1440
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 10: It's real, men, like real Talk twenty four seven, three

1441
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 10: sixty five love that shit.

1442
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: Yes, nothing is fake, It's all real.

1443
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1444
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any final message to the fans about

1445
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: Morning Combat? Because Jake, you have bled. There's a lot

1446
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: of secretion you have. You have a lot of fluids

1447
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: have been spilled for this show. You've bled for us.

1448
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: Long live MK.

1449
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: Party on dudes.

1450
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: All right, Jake Roseman, let's there for him? Here another

1451
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: valued staff member and of course the departed twin and

1452
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: sick ex brother of Jake von Amsterdam. All right, we

1453
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: did so here's the deal. We didn't do this properly,

1454
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: but we did put a call out, a little bat

1455
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: signal out to the fans that we would like to

1456
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: get into more, not just the old school Daams from Downks,

1457
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: but put a little video element on there. We're asking

1458
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: today to fill some time here with some fan live question,

1459
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: so continue in the live chat on here. Mikey morrim

1460
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: from CBS Sports is monitoring that with the authorities close by,

1461
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: and we will get that. But we did get a few,

1462
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: so let this today be a teaser. We're gonna play

1463
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: a couple of videos. We'd like to do a weekly

1464
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: video segment which gives you, guys, the chance to ask

1465
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: us a question just as much as it gives you

1466
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: a chance. It's almost fan subbish to you know. You

1467
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: gotta skit, you got balance your balls. It's not America's

1468
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: got talent, but it is.

1469
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 8: You know.

1470
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird.

1471
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

1472
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: Let's listen to the first one here. This one is

1473
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: from Rob.

1474
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 12: Good morning guys, Robert Rowley, Long Island, New York, come

1475
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 12: into your live from our twenty fifteen Lincoln MKZ.

1476
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: I got a question for you and let me paint

1477
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: this picture.

1478
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 12: Luke Vait, Master Thomas and Brian the Black Liver Campbell

1479
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 12: get signed to the UFC for your first fight camp.

1480
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 12: You get to pick three coaches out of all active

1481
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 12: UFC fighters, a striking coach, a wrestling coach, and a

1482
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 12: jiu jitsu coach.

1483
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: Who do you pick and why?

1484
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 12: Since Luke is gonna need as much time as possible

1485
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 12: to overcomplicate this question, I'm gonna listen to BC so

1486
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 12: that he can get all the easy layups, just like

1487
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 12: the old washed out of shape dad that he is.

1488
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: Love you guys, Appreciate you guys.

1489
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 12: Oh, by the way, Luke, you cannot pick any of

1490
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 12: BC's picks, and thank you for everything.

1491
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: Have a good one. Wow Long Island Rob, and we

1492
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: have Long Island Luke here, he could come up on

1493
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: the wheel big. By the way, we had met for

1494
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: volin here, So a big week for Long Island Huntington.

1495
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: Just the same. Shout out to Rob there for jumping

1496
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: in in and yeah, Luke would have overcomplicated this. Luke's

1497
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: not here today. We can't get his guesses. So you

1498
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: said I would take active fighters, but make them my

1499
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: specific coach across those categories. That's that's an interesting that's

1500
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: an interesting way to look at it. All right, all right,

1501
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I want, so I need as

1502
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: much you know, if I get signed to the UFC,

1503
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be in an exaggerated CM punk type

1504
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: of role. They better give me MMA journalist, slash fighter

1505
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: Mike Jackson, Right, you got to, I got Maybe I'll

1506
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: just fight journalists. Maybe I'll fight Helwani in the cage

1507
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: or right for the Battle of k Beec. The winner

1508
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: gets to put up the Florida Leon.

1509
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably a little weird.

1510
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: I would need Sean Brady as my wrestling coach because

1511
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: Sean Brady has a fire and intensity to him. I

1512
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: had him on the RSD couch Philadelphia's finest that I

1513
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: think that could motivate the shit out of me. I

1514
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: don't need actual technical wrestling advice. I just need him

1515
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: to kind of yell at me and look real like

1516
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: mean and disappointed in me. And I think i'd be

1517
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: I think I'd be just fine striking wise. That's interesting.

1518
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, I probably go Kelvin

1519
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: Gastolum because between rounds I would really need some inspiration.

1520
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: And he did, you know, it was the only one

1521
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: who was able to kind of get inside on Izzy

1522
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: and mix it up and throw, you know, successions of

1523
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: big bombs and combinations. If he could just keep regaling

1524
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: me between rounds with reminders of how great that two

1525
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: thirty six fight was and how inspirational it was. That'll

1526
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: be the eye of the tiger that I need. I

1527
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: just need somebody to coach my jeshutes. All right, you

1528
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: gotta be active, So no, not coach Iohanna. How about Glover?

1529
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: How about Glover? How about we go Connecticut corner there?

1530
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: I feel like if you put Sean Brady Glover to

1531
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: share in Kelvin Gasolm behind me, maybe coach Latoria there

1532
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: as a fourth for emotional wellbeing. Look what it's done

1533
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: for Mike. I think we're onto something there. Good white

1534
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: belt answers there from your boy BC.

1535
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next video.

1536
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: This is from two Chains. Let's let's hear in from this.

1537
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: Morning.

1538
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 10: Come revel Revelie shout out to the donksman the chat

1539
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 10: saying inappropriate things.

1540
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 3: All right, you know what I'm saying.

1541
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: But Ka BC and Luke no Mia Copa's alab.

1542
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 3: Karate chops are coming straight to your head. You've had

1543
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: like three morgaritas. Who is going to be the first

1544
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: person to beat Terrence Crawford, who are now.

1545
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: In your way? Whichever one you think and you want

1546
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: to take a shot at thank.

1547
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: You, look Toms mambran, come.

1548
01:12:52,640 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, two Chang's use use a grifter, sir sore

1549
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 1: again bird please, that's a There's a lot of ambition

1550
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: put into that clip. That's an interesting question if Terrence Crawford.

1551
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Terrence Craffer has a lot of fights

1552
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: left on, but I think he'll be here for a

1553
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,879
Speaker 1: good time for what is left. So is it possible

1554
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: that he can live well if he's daring to be great?

1555
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: Right? Especially? Look would he be?

1556
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: He might be favored against Charlo for all four belts,

1557
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Canelo fight will influence us in

1558
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: some ways in regards to that, but I still think

1559
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: that's a very difficult fight in a big fight. I'm

1560
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: more apt to believe that if if he was going

1561
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: to lose, based on though the projection of potential opponents

1562
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: to him, that it would be Canelo. That doesn't mean

1563
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't potentially pick Crawford. I want to remind people that,

1564
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: like right after that performance of what Crawford did to Spence.

1565
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, Luke's not here today, he's under

1566
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: the weather, but yesterday he was really talking some good

1567
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: stuff about in between shoots about Chuck was asking him

1568
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: about you. Chuck Minenhall was here, so there you go

1569
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: about what it was actually like to be in the

1570
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: arena for Spence Crawford, and we remember Luke on the

1571
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: you know Live reaction show afterwards, i'd like borderline tears

1572
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,440
Speaker 1: in his eyes and that we compared it to watching Paverati.

1573
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: So we're we rightfully, So we got very drunk on

1574
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: like Will Crawford's like might be way better than we thought.

1575
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: And we already thought that he was, you know, one

1576
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: of the best ever. So I could have been drunk

1577
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: on that, you know, telling the girl I love you

1578
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: the next morning after the first night. But I did

1579
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: feel in the moment there and I still do that.

1580
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: While Crawford moving up three weight classes for canelo Is

1581
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: is almost an absurd conversation, I do believe that he

1582
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: is competitive and could win that fight. I do believe

1583
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: that there are certain greats that that they just have

1584
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: the combination of like durability, daring, this speed and just

1585
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: whatever where you put him in situation. Manny Pacio is

1586
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,839
Speaker 1: the perfect example, and they just rise to the occasion.

1587
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: It's not that there's not limitations along the way as

1588
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: they rise and wait, Paccio's you know, one punch power

1589
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: ability certainly didn't rise up, but he had sort of

1590
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: the perfect storm of the domin the Nation of de

1591
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: la Hoya, mixed with how much he just took Ricky

1592
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: Hatton the frick out of there, and maybe that's the

1593
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: most dangerous version we've ever seen of him. But he

1594
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: would move up in Waite Roy Jones two in ways

1595
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: that you're just like a new way too, in ways

1596
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: that you're just like damn. It's as if weight doesn't matter.

1597
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: Crawford moving up through way classes like I could. I

1598
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 1: was the one in the beginning who said no Crawford,

1599
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: because it was Crawford after the fight, remember who said,

1600
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't even think I can go to sixty maybe

1601
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: fifty fours the most I can go. And it's not

1602
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have that sort of cautious attitude. Going

1603
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: up in Waite and facing killers is tough, but that

1604
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: is what the greats do, that dare to be a

1605
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: next level great, and I do as much as Crawford

1606
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: has accomplished a ton already three division champion, two time

1607
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: undisputed champion. Now I don't think that he has fully

1608
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: maximized the potential of big names available to him because

1609
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: they were not available. Well yeah, I guess that makes

1610
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: no sense, but they were not available to him for

1611
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: a while.

1612
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: And it's not his fault.

1613
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: He didn't always help himself marketing wise. He wasn't always

1614
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: the best interviewer a lot of things there. But he's

1615
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: coming out of his shell now after finally, I think

1616
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: his flowers in this big moment, and I think he

1617
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: is one of those that could do that. I'm to

1618
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: end up picking him if they actually made that fight,

1619
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: because I do believe his frame it's not gonna be

1620
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: easy to take punches like that, but he has the

1621
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: potential footwork wise and with that speed to be a

1622
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: real big problem with Canelo. But you still have to

1623
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: look at Canelo as the answer to that question, because

1624
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: that would that would be an enormous lift. I mean,

1625
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: we're getting into sugary Leonard territory. We're getting beyond that.

1626
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: We're getting into just like daring to be great shit,

1627
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: that is on another level.

1628
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: Now, a new a is kind of in.

1629
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: The midst of already doing that. I can't believe he

1630
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: went up there to the new division at one twenty two,

1631
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: and I mean he kind of yearnal cake Steph Fullen.

1632
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: Jordan hates saying that because it's respectful and I love

1633
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: cool boy stuff. I mean, I still he's one of

1634
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: the best in the world. I just didn't expect it

1635
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be like that. I picked full into it.

1636
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it was gonna be like that in

1637
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: a fourth way class where it just doesn't matter there

1638
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: are it depends, like, is a new way about to

1639
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,839
Speaker 1: do the type of craziness that this question is suggesting,

1640
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: Like Crawford going u through classes against Canelo is crazy.

1641
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, It's crazier than when like Usman was

1642
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: talking about going on to lightheadway. I mean, it's crazy,

1643
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: But is a new way poised to do the same

1644
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: thing because by beating the best guy at twenty two, granted,

1645
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: it's still a far leaf to get up to lightweight,

1646
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: which is thirty five, that's a you know, three divisions up.

1647
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: But the closer he gets to thirty and thirty five,

1648
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: you are now suddenly talking about the opportunity at big

1649
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: time money fights that bring big time historical implications. And

1650
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: I do think in new way who is a star

1651
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: in Japan on a bigger level that I would believe

1652
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: than any American boxer certainly would know right now. You know,

1653
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: he's still in smaller weight classes. I'm sure he's very

1654
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: well paid, especially when he fights in Japan, as he's

1655
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: done a lot lately. But this is like the potential

1656
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: of next level. Could you imagine him fighting Tank or

1657
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: in old Many pakiaw or something, you know, kind of

1658
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: a crazy matchup against you know, Ryan Garcia, the type

1659
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: of people that are much higher up in weight. But

1660
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: it's just an attraction. You just have to see it.

1661
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we were asking a lot of him to

1662
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 1: go to one twenty two and his fourth way class

1663
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: and beat one of the best ten guys in the world,

1664
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 1: which he.

1665
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: Did and beat the hell out of him.

1666
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I literally don't know if he could

1667
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: do that, you know, against Brandon Figueroa at won twenty

1668
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: six or would he have major problems because of that

1669
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: side of difference. I don't know. If that's beeding power

1670
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: and boxing ability and moxie and backbone and the backbone

1671
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: he showed against don Air in the first fight. I

1672
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know if that he may just carry that he

1673
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: just may be that special force. I don't know who's

1674
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna beat him because I don't know

1675
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: where the ceiling is, Like I really don't know with

1676
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: a new way, and that's exciting. It's an exciting place

1677
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: to be, especially since he's in the midst right now

1678
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 1: of his physical and mental prime coming together. So the

1679
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: answers cross Canelo to Crawford in this equation. But man,

1680
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: not only is boxing great right now like this things

1681
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 1: can drive together to make this calendar. You're just Christmas

1682
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: Morning for boxing fans, a qua Kwanza morning, you know, Hanuka,

1683
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: where you're wherever you're partying with me here just it's

1684
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: been incredible and I feel like right now there's these

1685
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: other things butudding, the potential for these new storylines or possibilities,

1686
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, Crawford taking on there to be great fights here?

1687
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 2: What about in this division?

1688
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: This things are just budding where suddenly we are talking

1689
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:17,879
Speaker 1: about the potential realness of these insane fights actually happening.

1690
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: And yes, there's some element of what bigger role does

1691
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: how big of a role does Saudi Arabia play? It

1692
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: may play a big role, and you know, for better

1693
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: or words, depending on your stands in that regard, but

1694
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: that's the where the money's coming from. So we can

1695
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: get a weird attraction fight that is in Gano fury,

1696
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: which will still draw a lot of attention. If we're

1697
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: going to get Fury versus Zusik, eventually, it's going to

1698
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: be in that setup, in that format. But the thing

1699
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: is as a beating down boxing fan who's been through

1700
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: the wars and hung on for dear life as Leo,

1701
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, perished in the cold water next to me,

1702
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, draw? Why don't

1703
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: we draw your ass like some French girls? Now, I mean,

1704
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: just you know, get on the get on the barge

1705
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: with her. What are you doing, Leo?

1706
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: Just hanging on there like this? You know, and of

1707
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: course you're cold, you know what I mean?

1708
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: All this shit right, I don't remember what we were

1709
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: talking about, but you know, hopefully my my Titanic joke

1710
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: didn't go down with the ship right there. But yeah,

1711
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: boxing's great, That's what I've been talking about because now

1712
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: we can, uh, we've survived the storms and now look

1713
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: at what's happening. The things that used to get in

1714
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: the way that made these fights impossible. I mean, we

1715
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: just missed the same calendar year that Tanking Ryan fall,

1716
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: even though like under the old way of thinking, it

1717
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: wasn't really possible.

1718
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: Maybe we do get Fury Usic later on, you know, January.

1719
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: Maybe we do get all these other ones. What wow,

1720
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: what a time, What a time. Savor the flavor. Joy it.

1721
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: All you new boxing fans that were MMA only before,

1722
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: enjoy it. And all you people that are like, I'm

1723
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: sick of the box on the show. I'm gonnaurn it off.

1724
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't get Luke, and if I don't get MMA talk,

1725
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn it off. How about you let me

1726
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: turn you on consensually of course. All right, I'm married,

1727
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: very happily married man. I'm talking about turn on the

1728
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: box right like step three?

1729
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: Put it?

1730
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go back. Now, let's go back

1731
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: to the wheel. It's getting hot in here, so hopefully

1732
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: no one will have to take off all their clothes,

1733
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: as you've seen the physiques have many of our staff

1734
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: members here. Here we go.

1735
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 2: You get what you get, guys.

1736
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: You know, I can't promise you entertainment, but in a pinch,

1737
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: your boy BC can pull out some party favors. I

1738
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: would have been an incredible clown, a sad clown, and

1739
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: a drinking sad clown. But I probably would have been

1740
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: really good at it. But like most entertainers would, you know,

1741
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: I probably would have a sad private life. But you

1742
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: know it's like, what are we running from?

1743
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 10: That?

1744
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: We're still willing to run in front of the camera.

1745
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: Artists as us, you know, visual artists such as us.

1746
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: What do we got here?

1747
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: Wrong Island? Luke? All right?

1748
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: An important artery in the veins that are morning combat.

1749
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: He comes to us from Huntington, Long Island. Yes, his

1750
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: dad is from Australia. But he's a big time director

1751
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: and producer in these parts. A bearded fella who loves

1752
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: nineties alternative rock and is not afraid every weekend to

1753
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: go to see another show. Offspring is next at Jones Beach.

1754
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: Let's bring him in here, Long Island, Luke, no Seda,

1755
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah on the show? Brother all right, man,

1756
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,919
Speaker 1: look at that beard. It's that's aggressive.

1757
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: Oh we is that a Long Island?

1758
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: That you have a thick ass Long Island accent?

1759
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: I do?

1760
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1761
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 7: Make me say water coffee water?

1762
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: Can you give me fulk?

1763
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: Can give me a fragal with the frivolas you when

1764
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: you when the frovolas came in yesterday, true or false?

1765
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: It was like me on vacation in Quebec. I felt

1766
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: at home.

1767
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 7: It was just like you with your quebec Qua.

1768
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 11: I was just the accent came out. We started hitting

1769
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 11: it off. It was a great time both living Huntington,

1770
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 11: you know, same town.

1771
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: I feel, I feel, you know, I got respect for Longland.

1772
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: I've done some time in Long Island, all right. I've

1773
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: chased the muff around unsuccessfully on that bitch ass island.

1774
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: You know.

1775
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I did some time at Fire Island too.

1776
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 7: You know, Ireland's great.

1777
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 11: A lot of people think it has you know, some

1778
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 11: weird uh innuendo there, but Fire Island is actually a

1779
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 11: great time.

1780
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: Back when I was going to Fire Island, you couldn't

1781
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: say you were going to Fire Island without innuendo innuendo exactly.

1782
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: But now I'm glad that people have evolved to that point.

1783
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Are you automatically automatically a Billy Joel guy based on

1784
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: where you're from?

1785
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 7: So that's funny.

1786
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 11: I actually saw Billy Joel like a month ago, and

1787
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 11: I at the garden at the garden but I know

1788
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 11: I hadn't heard Billy Joel like at all before that.

1789
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 7: My girlfriend's a big fan. Shout out Katie.

1790
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: So we went.

1791
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 7: We got tickets.

1792
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Dad, I love this accent.

1793
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: Here. What's the worst part about working on this show?

1794
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: Is it dealing with the other Luke?

1795
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: What is it now?

1796
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 11: Honestly, it's just like I'm tech difficulties and shit. Luke

1797
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 11: ain't so bad. You know, He's dealing with shit just

1798
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 11: like we all are. But yeah, just shit going wrong

1799
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 11: when you're not expecting it.

1800
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: And we've had a tech difficulty or too. In the

1801
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: hid we've had a few man, Yeah, a couple here

1802
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: and there, you know nothing. All right, let's talk about

1803
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: your origin story, not necessarily how you were birthed or

1804
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: you know, the circumstances of the consummation. Although your dad

1805
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 1: is Australian and well let's start there. What is the

1806
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: most Australian thing about you? And how thick is your

1807
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: dad's accent?

1808
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 11: Most Australian thing about me is probably just like I'm weird,

1809
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 11: Like I like to just like dig in the dirt

1810
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 11: and do like grimy ish. I feel like that's like

1811
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 11: an Australia.

1812
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: Wait, whaa are we talking about? Like you have no

1813
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: problem with manual labor or you were like a dude,

1814
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: that's like that, no manual labor.

1815
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 7: But I'm weird, like I'll be bored and be like,

1816
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 7: oh yeah, I'm gonna go split firewood in my backyard

1817
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 7: like that's.

1818
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: Like that kind of well, that's just manly shit, dude.

1819
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 7: I think it's Australia.

1820
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: Okay, but how much of.

1821
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: A man are you?

1822
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know your backyard set up in terms

1823
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: of what the neighbors can view. But I'll always risk

1824
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: it if I'm in my backyard doing yard work, even

1825
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: if it's light out and there's an angle that no

1826
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: one's look, I'll just I just you know, I'll just

1827
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: piss it right in my backyard, in my backyard all

1828
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: day every day, especially read them.

1829
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 7: Am I drinking in my backyard? Like come on, I'm

1830
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 7: having a few beers.

1831
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go in, you know, and then

1832
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, but you would you wouldn't.

1833
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: All right, we'll stop it right anyway, We'll just stop.

1834
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 1: When did you join morning combat? What are the circumstances

1835
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: you want to here? Since day one did when they

1836
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: when they pulled Jay Aaron out of here in a

1837
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: white coat. Where did you follow him back in?

1838
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: What happened?

1839
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 11: Yes, so the same pretty much story as Gaff, but

1840
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 11: it was said it was with Gaff. Now, Corey, I

1841
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 11: knew Gaff used to listen to Morning Combat all the time. Yeah,

1842
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 11: said Gaff heard you working.

1843
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: On the show.

1844
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 7: You gotta let me know when you got an opening.

1845
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 7: He let me know, and here we go.

1846
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: This is just so weird that Gaff is in a

1847
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: job where he needs gaff tape.

1848
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is weird. Every time someone calls for the Gaff.

1849
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, we got this bit in my house. My

1850
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: wife gets so mad. I do it every time where

1851
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: she's I'm like, Babe, where's the band aids or the scissors.

1852
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, it's in the bin. And I'm like

1853
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 1: what Ben, She's like in the drawer and I'm like, well,

1854
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: what's the bin's name? She's like we were talking about

1855
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, we should give it a name, right, I'm like,

1856
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, Lodden. And then you know, she gets

1857
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: like so upstairs, like what about the families? And I'm like, yeah, yeah,

1858
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, to close here, you're not dude,

1859
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: you saw a Third Eye Blind on the self titled

1860
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: album anniversary tour. Correct, right, yes, I gotta see that show.

1861
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean, so, let's be honest about something. What year

1862
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: were you're born?

1863
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: I gotta do.

1864
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: I love Thomas's It's not your fault. You weren't all

1865
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: live in nineteen ninety three, all right.

1866
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 7: I was because I was born in nineteen ninety two.

1867
01:25:59,360 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1868
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay. What I want to ask you is this that

1869
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: Third eye Blind album, although firmly entrenched in the sort

1870
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: of look that bubble of alternative rock in the mid nineties,

1871
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: which certainly was at its purest at the breakout of grunge.

1872
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: But like any musical genre will get the waters, will

1873
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: get muddy due to commercialism, and suddenly you've got like

1874
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: a pop grunge And look, that third eyeblind self titled

1875
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: album is pop rock. Let's not, let's not. Let's not

1876
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: run from that, dude, But there's it might Is that

1877
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: the best album from that era? I'm not talking about

1878
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 1: the best of the nineties list. It may not appear

1879
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 1: in the top ten. It may, I'm not sure, but

1880
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: that just that just screams nineties and it's brilliant.

1881
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 7: Man front to back. That is a fantastic album.

1882
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 11: I could listen to every song on it, but best

1883
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 11: nineties album is ten by Pearl jam.

1884
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right, You're damn right, You're damn right.

1885
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Maybe okay, Computer by Radiohead, and you.

1886
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 7: Know what, A not a big Radiohead guy, not gonna

1887
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 7: all right?

1888
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: You're you're acting like one right now. I did.

1889
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: I was talking on camera the other day. You know,

1890
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: you can own an album but not really know it,

1891
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: and then years later you kind of rediscovered. Dude, I

1892
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: just picked up No Code by Pearl Jamming.

1893
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: I thought I knew it.

1894
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 7: That's why you were singing Smile before, Dude.

1895
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: That middle stretch of like smile off, he goes in

1896
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: my tree.

1897
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: Dude, that that record will.

1898
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: People always dispatch it as sort of the weird drumming

1899
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: pattern record with Jack Irons. That album is brilliant. I

1900
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: feel like I've never heard it before and I'm just

1901
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: experiencing it for the first time.

1902
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 7: I feel that way about a lot of Pelgram albums.

1903
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 11: I'm going to see Pearl Jam on Tuesday in Chicago,

1904
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 11: so at any not at a United Center, shit, any

1905
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 11: MK donks out there, I'll be rocking some MK shit shout.

1906
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: Me out as Steve Pratt from a PR showtime fame

1907
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: going to be there as well. Dude, that's going to

1908
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: be a that Does this have potential like be the

1909
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: concert of your lifetime?

1910
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 7: No, because I saw them last year at MSG and

1911
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 7: I was in the pit. I was like five rows back.

1912
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Of Long Island Luke getting after it. It's been great

1913
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: to catch.

1914
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: Up with you on a closer manly or way here.

1915
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: It just so happened the cameras were on you know, yeah, yeah,

1916
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke Noceta right here, No Seda.

1917
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, his dad's an Australian, but you already knew that.

1918
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Mikey, let's h I know, let

1919
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: me get going here on a couple BC live chat questions. Now,

1920
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: this is from the actual MK live chat on YouTube.

1921
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: Good luck to me.

1922
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: This one's from cha. I think he has a pizza

1923
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: slice next to him, he says his morning combat. You

1924
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: think John Jones's overrated post drug suspension.

1925
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know.

1926
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 1: The answer is no, because he's not only the greatest

1927
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: fighter of all time, he's now the two division champion

1928
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: in your current heavyweight king.

1929
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 2: So you can't do that.

1930
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: And you certainly can't do that after a three year

1931
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: self and post absence, which certainly brought up a lot

1932
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: of questions. Yes, Gun laid a fat egg that allowed that,

1933
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: But that's a John Wynn, clean and great. So No,

1934
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: he's not overrated, But is he a different fighter with

1935
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: the inclusion of age. Has things caught up to him?

1936
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: Is he not as dangerous he has? All of those

1937
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: things are true. He sort of wore out the end

1938
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: run of his life heavyweight rain by being just barely

1939
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: able to keep that perfection. I do think in some

1940
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: of those fights, you know, the rays, particularly the mehead

1941
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: of one, because of the danger that Santos was bringing across,

1942
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: he was a little bit too careful, and I felt

1943
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: the combination of the ras in Santo's fights he was

1944
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of lucky overall that he got the nod that

1945
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: maybe he played it a little bit too safe. I

1946
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: had the same criticism for Atosania against Joel Romero in particular.

1947
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: But you know, there's also you You've heard DC used

1948
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: to argue back when him and John were in the

1949
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: thick of their rivalry there that it was obvious that

1950
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 1: you Sawa kicked in as John came back and fought

1951
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: osp and he wasn't the same well, you know, he

1952
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of looked the same in the gust and Reimatgine

1953
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: kind of dominated that. But I think overall this is true.

1954
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: Obviously there's regression with age, but with age inexperience the mind,

1955
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: especially if you are a goat and an all time great.

1956
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: And you know, while we always shout out John's chin,

1957
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: rightfully so as being a major part of his ability

1958
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: to be the goat and retain and win all these

1959
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: close fights, dude, his mind, his you know, willingness to

1960
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: be and the relationship with his coaches. I know it's

1961
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,560
Speaker 1: been rocky in some cases there, but of late, but

1962
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: that long lineage that they've had together, I mean, John's brilliant,

1963
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: his ability and slim margin of error and dangerous close

1964
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 1: fights to make the right decisions and do just enough

1965
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: to get ahead, even when he's self compromised, like the

1966
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: first gust of some fight with the drugs. And you know,

1967
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were a few of those fights during

1968
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: that run where there was some level of I don't

1969
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: want to call it self sabotage. I mean it might

1970
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: tech clinically technically be when people kind of act out

1971
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,879
Speaker 1: in that way, out of facing certain fear of reality

1972
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, there's deep levels to that, but

1973
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: that experience is still there. In fact, it's in a

1974
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 1: more effective way. So what may look like John not

1975
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 1: being the same and being overrated is also him figuring

1976
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: out how to be as efficient as possible. And that's

1977
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 1: what really defines the great ones. And you know, remember

1978
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: that Luke always has that stat about Walter Waitton under

1979
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 1: thirty five and over of how unlikely it is to

1980
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: win title fights. The exception is Tyrone Woodley, who, by

1981
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 1: the way, I think along with being an exceptional athlete

1982
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: and was able to carry the speed and timing late,

1983
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: he was also really really smart at focusing on one

1984
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 1: aspect of the game and being as efficient as possible

1985
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: you and beating you in that field whatever he picked.

1986
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: Like like, you know, he had different styles coming at

1987
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: him throughout his reign from WonderBoy to Maya, you know,

1988
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: through Tail and all of that. But his ability to

1989
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: be as efficient as possible and you know it was

1990
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: not easy to be hit either. That's what John's doing.

1991
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what that Gon win was. I mean,

1992
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: it was a lean on the old school fundamentals. I mean,

1993
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 1: look at what how Glover to share one division down,

1994
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: was able to reinvent and stay at such a late

1995
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: age and then eventually win the title and still be

1996
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: a factor as recently as that last fight and got

1997
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: his ass kicked in big moments there, but would not

1998
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: go away. And if Jamal Hill wasn't, you know, didn't

1999
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: have the backbone that he showed that night, maybe Glover

2000
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: does regain the title there.

2001
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: But the whole key is that focus.

2002
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: On the fundamentals mixed with that experience, so it could

2003
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: look overrated. But John's also in a spot where he's

2004
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: going to find the the you know, the shortest distance

2005
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: between two points. He's going to lean on his strength

2006
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: to try to exploit your difficulties and try not to

2007
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 1: get hit and not get into wars. Light heavyweight did

2008
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: catch up with him, and he took a long time off,

2009
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: but he slowly rebuilt his body. Hopefully, he slowly, although

2010
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: he had some hurdles during that time off legally of course,

2011
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: and some bad public situations, hopefully was able to you know,

2012
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: repair some of those damaging moments in his life and

2013
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: aspects of the relationships. And he seems to be at

2014
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: a point where no, he's not as great now as

2015
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 1: he was in as light heavyweight peak, but he's certainly

2016
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: smarter and certainly can make it look easier at times

2017
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: just by leaning so heavily on those fundamentals and making

2018
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: reactive efficient movements there. I do have a lot of

2019
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: interest though, with that steepe fight in ways that like

2020
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Luke and other people who don't love the fight don't,

2021
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: where they just assume Steepey coming off such a long

2022
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: layoff is not going to be a factor and going

2023
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: to be such a diminished version of himself, which could certainly.

2024
01:32:59,280 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: Be the case.

2025
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: But Steve a also has that history of sitting out

2026
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: for a year, year and a half of the time

2027
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: waiting for the big fight, coming back and then delivering

2028
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: in the big moment because we don't know everything about

2029
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,560
Speaker 1: John and who he actually is as a heavyweight. I

2030
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: keep repicking that it's true, we don't know what John

2031
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: looks like is a heavyweight. You got that much film

2032
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: on it, all right, you know you got that much?

2033
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: What's going on so interesting in that regard? I'll take

2034
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: another one here from Lazy Bed thirty three point thirty

2035
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: says BC with France becoming a semi le regular destination

2036
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: for the UFC. Might we expect an annual Paris event?

2037
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I would think so, and I think if they do

2038
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: it right, it could be a major. I mean, let

2039
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: let's recap. What do we if there's a have to

2040
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: be four, what do we ascribe to be the four

2041
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: majors at the moment in how UFC operates New York

2042
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: City in November, no doubt, the December one that used

2043
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 1: to be New Year's Even now is the second weekend

2044
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: for ESPN's purposes, always International fight week, without a question.

2045
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: So what's that fourth? Sometimes it feels like it's Brooklyn

2046
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: in April. Sometimes it feels like whatever is the hot

2047
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: spot the moment. COVID certainly played a case where Yah's

2048
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Island became the jam. I'd like to see, whether it

2049
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 1: be London or Paris, that that becomes a stop and

2050
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: that's an anchor. I'd also like to see when we've

2051
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,560
Speaker 1: teased on this before. But remember when they changed the

2052
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: canvas for UFC two hundred. Unfortunately it was too drastic, right,

2053
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: it was yellow and everybody ripped it. But the whole

2054
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: point was to make that card feel special. We've got

2055
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: UFC three hundred not too far away. I don't like

2056
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: that they ran away from that because the outcry wasn't great.

2057
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Would I would love if the four Majors can have

2058
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: a different color from the normal, so that when you're

2059
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: looking back on fights and big moments and highlight packages,

2060
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I remember that that was a that

2061
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: was you know, that was their trip to MSG in

2062
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, Like that was a major. I remember that.

2063
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: It feels bigger. Those shows should feel bigger. You should

2064
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: load them up with title fights. They should have sort

2065
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: of a quarterly Scott Coker like tent pole feel where

2066
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, okay, those other those other car cards.

2067
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: We do fill out the expectations of the TV deal

2068
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: and keep the light, but these are our big ones

2069
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: that we splash in. I'd like to see the focus

2070
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: on that. And if it's Paris, if the audience is

2071
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: that passionate after being held back for so long, that

2072
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: maybe Paris holds the same role for UFC that New

2073
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 1: York does in the States because of how long they

2074
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: weren't able to have it, and now you've got MSG

2075
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 1: suddenly that you can use.

2076
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 2: It matters.

2077
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: It matters in Brooklyn. When they go to Brooklyn, it

2078
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: feels big, even though not every Brooklyn card has felt

2079
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: on paper like a monstrous event. And we're still trying

2080
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: to forget home versus Germaine randomy. But let's keep that

2081
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: going on. Let's go one more on the questions and

2082
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I'll get back to this weird wheel and maybe somebody

2083
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: will turn the cameras off and pull thewlight. So you

2084
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: remember that scene and airplane with that weird radio guy

2085
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: just pulled the plug and then there was shit in

2086
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: the fan in it.

2087
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much longer we can do this.

2088
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going here. This is from fabians a

2089
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Jet who does BC have good question? And this weekends

2090
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: seemingly only boxing fight of a big note, which is

2091
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: the Liams Beefy Smith Chris Ubank junior rematch. Uh, there's

2092
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 1: always like something going on with Chris you Bank, You

2093
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like you still have some

2094
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: stuff left to take sure, but there's always something going on. Wait,

2095
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: family relationships, trainer relationships, the whole. I get what he's

2096
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: saying about. Don't throw on the towel, I mean, I

2097
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: get the extreme level he seems to be going He's

2098
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: almost going on to Deontay Wilder like level when he

2099
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: fired Mark Breeland. And you know poy Roy Jones, who

2100
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: didn't look like on Twitter that Roy Jones is doing

2101
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: work with Jamal Charlow ahead of his expected return. That's

2102
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 1: something to watch right there. Certainly, I don't think Roy

2103
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: Jones is for everybody, by the way, but I think

2104
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: there is a certain type of fighter that Roy Jones

2105
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: can bring, some different type of thought too that can

2106
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: take that can really make a difference. So we'll see there.

2107
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: Like you Bank, if everything was equal in this matchup

2108
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: of these two, yeah, I would pick you Bank to him.

2109
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 1: He's the bigger puncher, he's more athletic, he seems to

2110
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 1: be closer to maybe the physical prime of what's left.

2111
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: But you never really know what that guy has left.

2112
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: And there are some bizarre endings and now he's got

2113
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: the new trainer. But it's Bomack who's great. But you know,

2114
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: the smart money might be on Beefy again. I mean,

2115
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes it comes down to not who's the more

2116
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: skilled or who's the tougher, it's who can hold it

2117
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: together more. And you Bank can be a wildcard. Even

2118
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of a fight, even in a fight

2119
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: in which he's winning, and some of that had played

2120
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 1: to his old style of just being a you know,

2121
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: like Dan Henderson with the right hand cocked and just

2122
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: throwing handmakers all the time and not really caring about

2123
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: much of the details of the fundamentals. I'd back Leam

2124
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Smith felt a better here, But I'd like to see

2125
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: you Banks still still be something and use his name

2126
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: in his mouth to get a big fight that would

2127
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, he would have a chance to win, a

2128
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: chance to make big money. It's been too scattered for

2129
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: me to like overly pay attention to his journey of late,

2130
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: because it's been kind of disappointing, to be honest with you,

2131
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair, unfair. I mean, just not

2132
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: comparing him to the legend that is his dad and

2133
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: saying you have to be that or nothing. I just

2134
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: want to see him be consistent, is really where I'm

2135
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: going with there. All right, how about one more time

2136
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: we spend this and I mean, I don't know, I

2137
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: don't know what this is going to look like. I mean,

2138
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 1: do you have a tolerance to hear more stories about

2139
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: the people that I love that do this show that

2140
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: make me look good?

2141
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 2: You better?

2142
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: How much does this show cost? It's free? Still, all right,

2143
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: let's get this going.

2144
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: I like to do that once.

2145
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: I sounds like an old grandfather. You ever be like

2146
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: talking to you know, rip, your beloved grandfather, and you know,

2147
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 1: he'd be in the middle of telling you like some

2148
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: great story and they'd be like, and then the Japanese

2149
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: came in, and then so they'd be gone for like

2150
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: ten minutes. You'd be like, all right, Grandma, come back

2151
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: in a little while.

2152
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's great? All right?

2153
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Uh? Oh wow, this is a beer chuck moment. So

2154
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: they said, I had a chug of beer against somebody

2155
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: on set, and then.

2156
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: I've got to kind of roll.

2157
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: I gotta kind of spin this and we gotta get

2158
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: a we gotta get a victim.

2159
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 5: Here.

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01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: Let's see what's gonna happen. This could be messy, This

2161
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: could be really messy, but I must protect this house,

2162
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: right Uh? That is that is Brandon?

2163
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2164
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, oh, I can't beat Tristan. It's Tristan

2165
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: in everybody. Let's bring them on. Let's bring them up. Tristan.

2166
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know your last name, but I do

2167
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: know that you're a valued part of the show. You

2168
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: have rabid animals tattooed on your arm, and now you've

2169
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: got to drink me and a modello chug off. How

2170
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: great to see you, brother. All right? Where are you?

2171
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: Are you a New Jersey guy like the rest of

2172
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: this team. What town do you represent? Okay, like Gaff,

2173
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: you also were a legitimate athlete and a football player.

2174
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: Correct, that's uh, it's false.

2175
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: Did I just stereotype you as a football player because

2176
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,560
Speaker 1: you're probably the one of the few people in this

2177
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: room who goes near a weight room, you know, pretty

2178
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty regularly. I would say, all right, what are you

2179
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: a musician and artist? An MK cameraman? What is your passions? MK?

2180
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: Cameraman slash skateboarder? Oh? Nice, nice, and you've got tremendous

2181
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: inc The quality is there and it says a lot

2182
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 1: of things about a man to have animals that will

2183
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: tear your face off at any point. All right, in

2184
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: honor of UFC notch in a few weeks, you and

2185
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I will do the motive. What should the rules be

2186
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 1: on this? Well, they put your last name on your

2187
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: government name, Tristan g in the house. All right, Long

2188
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Island Luke, Harry, what's the rules?

2189
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: We just got to go for it.

2190
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm awful at this. You have youth and and and

2191
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 1: a lot going on for you, but you know I'm

2192
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: a team player here, Okay, So three two one, anything for?

2193
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 2: Okay? Has he done anything for? All? Right?

2194
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do you think that's? Are you

2195
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 1: inspired or disappointed in my performance? Can you touch it?

2196
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 2: Can you pick it up?

2197
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: Say I'm disappointing. I showed my age there, Tristan, thank

2198
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: you for crushing that and crushing that can You've been

2199
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 1: a You've been a great part of this team, a

2200
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: steady rock and cameraman. You go on the road with

2201
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: us a lot. Luke has painted this picture though that

2202
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna kill him in his sleep, that you

2203
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: know that, you know what? Is he just intimidated by

2204
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: your artwork? What's going on here? Let's say the the

2205
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: only thing I'm killing over here are these these Yeah,

2206
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 1: these bear cans right there, shout out a Central New

2207
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: Jersey in the house, This guy Jersey strong. You know,

2208
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: has there been a moment where has gone too far?

2209
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Has there been a moment where you've been working on

2210
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: this show and You're like, this could be the last

2211
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: day of the show. You know, I'm gonna have to

2212
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: plead the fifth on that one.

2213
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

2214
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: Does it get you any street cred to say you

2215
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: work on MK? Like has MKA I forgot you laid

2216
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you know, it's a question, It's

2217
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 1: it's another fifth Okay, Okay. You can get more on

2218
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 1: on Tristan's Patreon account there dot com over there for

2219
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 1: Tristan G. You said you were what else you got?

2220
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Pat Are you into music? Did you answer that?

2221
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Are you into art? What are you into?

2222
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I am into music, but mostly in my

2223
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: free time skating. Yeah, you've played Fortnite, you know, I've

2224
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 1: I've got definitely not I've got street cred with the

2225
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: kids because you know, because I've got an addiction and

2226
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: with my mental health. Tristian GE, it's been a pleasure

2227
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 1: talking to. Do you have a message at all to

2228
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: the to the fan base, you know, the the MK

2229
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: that you're you're a part of the film.

2230
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 2: You've been in the docks.

2231
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: You have been in the docks.

2232
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you get benefits with SAG for that,

2233
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 2: but you have been in the docks.

2234
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 1: I have been.

2235
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 10: There's a there's one very pinnacle moment in the Cleveland

2236
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 10: Cleveland Dot.

2237
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Doc five, Yes, where we were chugging beers and chugging again.

2238
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: You so you were the the the champion in that

2239
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: private box we had at the Cleveland Guardians game. Some

2240
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 1: some say so, some say not so, because there was

2241
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 1: a lot of chance of like, you know, I got

2242
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: a shout out Tim Gilligan.

2243
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like toom toom toom.

2244
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that that that documentary definitely documented

2245
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: a low point in this show's history.

2246
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 2: You know, if only we had doc cameras.

2247
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: Rolling today, it was that Tristan Gudirez. Uh, this is

2248
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: too many more MK shows with working with you. You

2249
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: crushed it. Thank you very much, and uh, you know,

2250
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: I got a little bit more work to do on

2251
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: this model. All right, let's keep the ball rolling here.

2252
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if how much more we you know,

2253
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:07,600
Speaker 1: the people will take from me. But I got a

2254
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: couple more questions we asked for.

2255
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 2: Let's hit it hard.

2256
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Okay, this is from angry retweet b See how does

2257
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 1: it feel to be in the presence of a goat

2258
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 1: aka Jed Mshue? Well, you know, the the greatest, the

2259
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: fair time.

2260
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

2261
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I like Jed. I'm really proud that he was able

2262
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: to slide in and help us out today. I love,

2263
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, the different variety of guys that we can

2264
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: bring on when Luke or I are on vacation or

2265
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 1: ill or where they have you or have other other

2266
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: things going on, because you want to be able to

2267
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: not only provide a different flavor and in a different opinion,

2268
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 1: and sometimes even Luke and I, for being so different,

2269
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: can end up in the same lane opinion wise. And

2270
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, and we try to do paint that Devil's

2271
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 1: advocate on the other side with the best we can.

2272
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 1: But Jed seems to have a motor on him. He

2273
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: seems to have an ability to not be afraid to

2274
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: swing bag and throw from the rafters, you know, like

2275
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 1: Henry Rome Artner when he threw back that that home

2276
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: run pitch, you know, and you're like, okay, you know,

2277
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: he throws he throws off speed stuff. It's it's very

2278
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's hot and heavy. It's the cheddar and

2279
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it lands, sometimes it gets all over him, you

2280
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So a big fan though of

2281
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: Jed and the work he does over there at m

2282
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: m AF love that we are able to you know,

2283
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: bridge gaps with our competitors or brothers in the game

2284
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: and you know, show up on each other's show. Here's

2285
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: one thing I learned in a really cool way about

2286
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: jazz music when Bronsteader helped me and Joni Mitchell really

2287
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: was my was my gateway drug through Jocko into that.

2288
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 1: But the look, you're either like a jazz purist and

2289
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: I've you know, I love some sort of the old school,

2290
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: more pure elements of jazz that was you know, predominant

2291
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties, but jazz fusion in the

2292
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: seventies in particular for my taste coming from rock, it

2293
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: just took it to like a different level. I mean

2294
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: it was just incredible. And the coolest thing about the

2295
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: jazz fusion run in the seventies is that it was

2296
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 1: all like super groups. They you know, from from Herbie

2297
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 1: Hancock and the you know Headhunters to Weather Report, which

2298
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: is probably the best to Chick Koreas outfit there was

2299
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 1: that returned to forever and you know, in a few

2300
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 1: others Maha Vishnu included everybody played on each other's records,

2301
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 1: and maybe it was Miles who set that standard more

2302
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: and that had always been a part of jazz. I'm

2303
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: not saying it's not, but like you know, Miles would

2304
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: create these super teams that are like ninety two dream

2305
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Team level to put on like bitches brew with him.

2306
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: It's like everybody that was ever great in the business

2307
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: and at that moment, but there's like this camaraderie to

2308
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 1: kind of just cross over and play on each other's records.

2309
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Like Jocko Pastorius's self titled solo debut there with his

2310
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: face on the cover. That's one of the most unique

2311
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 1: records in you know, jazz rock jazz fusion history, and

2312
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: yet it's got all killers backing him, people that were

2313
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: just like what is talent?

2314
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 2: I got to see it. I got to be a

2315
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 2: part of it.

2316
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: I like that you can you can, you can bump

2317
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: up each other. It doesn't have to be like this

2318
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: stupid cover. I mean, nothing's lamer to be fair, I

2319
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: do get caught up in like the gossip of it,

2320
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: although I really try hard not to be involved in it.

2321
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 1: But nothing really is lamer than you know, MMA media

2322
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: or boxing media, beefs and Wars. I mean, you know,

2323
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 1: I can laugh when Frank Warren's sending Dan Rayfield to

2324
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: hell on Twitter. I can laugh, you know, and it's cruel.

2325
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: But you know, like there's moments I can get that's

2326
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: just so ridiculous.

2327
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 2: I gotta laugh.

2328
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: But I like the other side of it. You know,

2329
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: let's lift each other up in that regard. Let's go

2330
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: over to Jasper Jansen BC. Could you explain how belts

2331
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: work in boxing? It don't work well, I'll tell you that.

2332
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, like, of course, we embrace them because it

2333
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: adds It adds definition, it adds meaning to events. You know,

2334
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 1: you want to feel like each fight matters. So if

2335
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: it's not a title fight, it better be a fight

2336
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,759
Speaker 1: that creates a leap in the rankings and creates contenders.

2337
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: The problem is the proliferation of belts, which is always

2338
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: going to be a hard word for me to say,

2339
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: especially after a couple of swigs of modello. Here's where

2340
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: we're at in boxing. We got too many divisions. We

2341
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 1: got seventeen on the men's side. There are you know,

2342
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: we're in the four belt era, which began in nineteen

2343
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: eighty eight. But to be honest, like that fourth belt

2344
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: wasn't really fully accepted, you know, in a four belt

2345
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: way for almost in some ways like ten years later

2346
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 1: and at different points either way, there's too many belts.

2347
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: So we stand now with four accepted, recognized sanctioning bodies.

2348
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: It's always going to be sort of those next tier

2349
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: down like the IBO and these people that are like

2350
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: fighting hard to make you act like their belt is

2351
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: also a big one and it matters. And you know,

2352
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 1: the biggest problem in boxing is that it seems like

2353
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,640
Speaker 1: networks don't put their foot down to the idea of like,

2354
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: let's only talk about a title if it's one of

2355
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: the major ones. Let's not you know, play up these

2356
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 1: other secondary ones and make it fool you and make

2357
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: it seem nobody does that. Unfortunately, they all present it,

2358
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, and if you didn't know better, it sucks, right,

2359
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: seventeen division is too much. Four recognized champions for a

2360
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: division is too much. It's almost unfortunately, like, look, my

2361
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: kids compet in high school athletics, they ever get a

2362
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 1: chance to do something, they're a state champion, I'd love it.

2363
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 1: But just because you're like the class S or small

2364
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: conference state champion doesn't mean like you're the same level

2365
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 1: state champion as you know, somebody who wins like the

2366
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 1: state Open or the open tournament or whatever state and

2367
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: situation you're having. Boxing can have a lot of those

2368
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 1: where even the real titles sometimes feel like junior ones.

2369
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: And on top of having seventeen divisions and four belts each,

2370
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 1: some of these recognized sanctioning bodies then put out even

2371
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 1: more bastardized titles. They take regular champions to make them

2372
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 1: super champions, and then there's an active and defending champion.

2373
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: But we're also going to create an interim title, and

2374
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes that plays in again to the presentation

2375
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 1: sometimes even you know on networks we're associated with where

2376
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: it's like, well, this is an interim title in this division,

2377
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: but a lot of times that title is really just

2378
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: almost like what the interim title in UFC has become,

2379
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 1: which is like a it's a glorified number one contender match. Okay, still,

2380
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: that's too many titles, too many people getting to claim

2381
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: their champion to really understand. Day to day, Look, the

2382
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: boxing bug can bite you, and it usually does when

2383
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 1: a great fight happens or just you know, a breakthrough

2384
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 1: perform rmans like Crawford, like I mean they take Davis

2385
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: fight was a fight that got so many people for

2386
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: different reasons. But you know, anytime you see greatness, you're like,

2387
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,560
Speaker 1: oh wow, I want to see this again. And the

2388
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: things that stop you from hanging around if you tend

2389
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 1: to be more of the fair weather boxing fan, and

2390
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I understand why they don't make the sport easy to follow,

2391
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,600
Speaker 1: but you get that bite of how good it could be,

2392
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 1: and then some of the things that slow you down.

2393
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,560
Speaker 1: Is obviously the best, not fighting the best because of

2394
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 1: certain political territorial lines, but it's not really understanding who

2395
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 1: are the real champions and what does this belt mean?

2396
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: The same as this is not easy. You gotta be

2397
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 1: like a hardcore super.

2398
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: Fan to hang in there.

2399
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: But is the juice worth the squeeze or is it

2400
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: only worth the squeeze in a year like this where

2401
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: it's big fight For me, it is always worth the squeeze.

2402
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:41,759
Speaker 1: This is the best sport.

2403
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 2: It is.

2404
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: I love covering MMA and UFC and I've had incredible

2405
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:46,800
Speaker 1: moments and we always have this debate and I still

2406
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 1: stand by it. UFC does it more consistently. But the

2407
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 1: best of boxing is not only better than the best

2408
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 1: of MMA in terms, it's to me, it's the biggest

2409
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 1: thing that you can do in sports, and then that matters.

2410
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: It's still the big one. There's still that romanticized feeling

2411
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: with it. Too many belts. How do I explain the belt?

2412
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain them because there's so many of them,

2413
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 1: and you get sanctioning bodies that float ones that aren't

2414
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: even real titles. But as long as they're getting paid, right,

2415
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: every time a fighter fights for that title, they have to.

2416
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 2: Pay the sanctioning body a sanctioning fee.

2417
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: That can get dark and shady. But do we need

2418
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 1: champions to have a ranking system to make sure mandatories

2419
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 1: do happen? Yeah, I mean there are ways that policy

2420
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 1: gets abused. Promoters sometimes do things like that to influence

2421
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: rankings bodies and sanctioning bodies to get and suddenly somebody's

2422
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 1: fighting for a title you never heard of them. Yeah,

2423
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: that happens. We got to get out of that. But

2424
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: as long as the momentum from this year and the

2425
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: big fights keep making they deliver, I mean, some of

2426
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: that stuff can change. This could be a we could

2427
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,719
Speaker 1: be we're either in the midst of yet another sort

2428
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: of really good year that pops up in boxing, but

2429
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, we hope it builds. What if this is

2430
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 1: the beginning of a really good decade, you know, I mean,

2431
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: how did the you know, how did the nineteen sevenies?

2432
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: The sixties were good, but it wasn't where you know,

2433
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't the same power that boxing had in the

2434
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: forties and fifties. And well, then the seventies happened and

2435
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,719
Speaker 1: the heavyweight run, and then that led into the eighties

2436
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: with the four Kings. And sometimes you you know, you

2437
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: need the fighters, you need the personalities, but sometimes it

2438
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: just can collaborate together, and it can be a you know,

2439
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 1: an illness that keeps affecting people and you keep getting

2440
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 1: bit by that bug, and the momentum carries it. Maybe

2441
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: we're starting a new era with younger fighters that want

2442
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: the smoke now just as much as they want to

2443
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 1: pay day. Maybe the best keep fighting the best in

2444
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: these lines, these political lines that hold us back, get

2445
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: torn down, and maybe some of the bs with the

2446
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: belts gets cleaned up. A boy can dream more news

2447
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 1: at eleven, let's keep going on to Okay, computer, Brian,

2448
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: do you think Spence is bold enough to rematch TBC

2449
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: at one forty seven? So That's an interesting point and

2450
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: an extension of the conversation from earlier, because could Crawford,

2451
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: based on the contract as the winner, say sorry, Spence,

2452
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: I know it's better for you at fifty four, but

2453
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: I'll only do this if it's forty seven, hoping I

2454
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 1: would in some ways, maybe hoping he would say no, right?

2455
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: Is that a move? Is that a counter move in

2456
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: the playbook that Bud could do.

2457
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 2: He could do.

2458
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 1: Spence could also say forget it. I'm gonna load back

2459
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: up and I'm gonna make quite one more time, and

2460
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: that could be I don't know, it could be disastrous.

2461
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: I hope they wouldn't go down that road. I think

2462
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, do it at fifty four.

2463
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: I think it could still be sold.

2464
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 2: But you do have to have an angle here. You

2465
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 2: do have to have an angle.

2466
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I would be very interesting in seeing it.

2467
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: I also would be interested in seeing Crawford continue this

2468
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 1: ride of just taking on huge fights. This is wild

2469
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: lazy bed three point thirty. As a fellow gas station

2470
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: food connoisseur, I have to ask a BC ever eight

2471
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,560
Speaker 1: at a sheets are you kidding me? Twenty four to

2472
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: seven made to order goodness. If not, what's his favorite

2473
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Cumberland Farms order? Are you new to this show?

2474
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: Lazy bed?

2475
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 11: So?

2476
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, sheets is the sheets is the shits. Sheets is

2477
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: the best I get new Jersey's fascination with wuah wah,

2478
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't handle on the wah wah wah. It gets

2479
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 1: it done. We don't have anything in Connecticut whahwah.

2480
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 10: Like.

2481
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: Although let's put some respect on Cumberland Farms. Yes, it's

2482
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: the culprit of largely damaging my liver over the past

2483
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years. But when I was a kid, Cumbling Arms

2484
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: was always everywhere, but it kind of sucked. It was

2485
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: just a regular run of the mill the only thing

2486
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 1: good that Cumberland Farms had. And if you were a

2487
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: candy kind of store as a kid in town, you

2488
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: always knew if you were dragged along with your mom

2489
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: to a store like well, at least if it's a store,

2490
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: they might have candy. And if I put on a

2491
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 1: good sell, I can get it.

2492
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: I can get it. Maybe she'll buy it for me.

2493
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: Most stores had generic, big brand candy, but some of

2494
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: the Cumberland Farms had the off brand dusty stuff that

2495
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 1: y It's been sitting there for three years. But it's

2496
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: kind of like that weird you know. Cumbland Farms had that.

2497
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 1: But Cumberland Farms has tried to become over the past

2498
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: sort of five ten years successfully a super stop mark

2499
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: a one on the level of Sheets. Woh wan, I

2500
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: guess now they've got those BUCkies superstores that are the

2501
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 1: biggest ever. My parents have one near them in Florida.

2502
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 1: I haven't experienced that yet. But dude, I love a

2503
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: great truck stop. I love a good TA. Well, we

2504
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: all love a little TNA, right, but I love a

2505
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 1: good TA travel truck stop on the road. Those are

2506
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: the places that you know have both sustained me and

2507
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: slowly killed me. I think Sheets is the best. It's

2508
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 1: more of a Pennsylvania institution. I have family there. I

2509
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 1: mean a lot of trips in my life. You can

2510
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 1: fall into a sheets. Everything you eat there will give

2511
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:07,640
Speaker 1: you the sheets. But you can, I mean you can

2512
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 1: just you know, I know you can do that at

2513
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: a while on others. But when you go up to

2514
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 1: the computer screen you have to talk to another human

2515
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: and you can take your normal food, but then just

2516
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 1: take other great things and throw it in there.

2517
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh you want mac and cheese?

2518
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: And pulled pork inside of that. Sure we can do

2519
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: that here. Yeah, sheets can get dangerous. It's a loaded

2520
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 1: weapon and I love it. Cumberland Farms, though, has stepped

2521
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 1: up their game to a pretty high level. You know

2522
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: you want to be able to have the option if

2523
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: you're going to deterrorate your liver for a ninety nine

2524
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 1: cent pizza. Okay, a lot of yawns here from the cameramen.

2525
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: Must be time to put this thing together. But you know,

2526
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm also trying to preserve my liver, so let's not

2527
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: glorify gas station life anymore or gas station cuisine.

2528
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: There's still time.

2529
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: It's never too late to turn your health around.

2530
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 2: Do we have time for one more here?

2531
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 1: Christian Galen says BC, can you do an RSD with

2532
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 1: ANATONI Malakin love too? With language barrier does seem to

2533
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: be a hey problem. But I do have a lot

2534
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: of love for Malakin over there at One Championship and

2535
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: think he is one of the most underrated fighters on

2536
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: this planet right now and is an absolute hammer. You

2537
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: saw that in the Unification fight, you saw that in

2538
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: the reneered Derina fight. Damn, he's something super. I just

2539
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: don't think that chat would go great. Look, Matt Ravola

2540
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: was awesome yesterday and I knew he had the potential

2541
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: to be that because he does have that bro every

2542
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: man kind of vibe. Big swinger in the cage and

2543
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: our RSD, which I hope comes out soon you get

2544
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: a chance to watch it was great and he's fun

2545
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 1: as shit. And to hear the backstory of him and

2546
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 1: Billy Q as amateur fighters in Tampa, just tearing it up,

2547
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: just just tearing things up.

2548
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Was I could get behind that.

2549
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Let's close with lazy bed three thirty once more, BC,

2550
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: a member of the MK Discord, recently purchased a cameo

2551
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: from you. What are your favorite types of cameos to

2552
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: do for the donks? Let's close with that cheap plug

2553
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 1: that is cameo dot com slash Brian Campbell one eight

2554
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: hundred only PIPESPC speaking is how I like to say. No,

2555
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 1: I have not hit the bottom yet where I'm showing

2556
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: my buttthole. But you know, got to pay for these

2557
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: braces in this college, you know, eventually, so see what

2558
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 1: we get there. But I do, yeah, I will, I will.

2559
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: I do have two in the hopper. That is that

2560
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: I got to do over the next day and I

2561
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: love doing these and yeah, you know it's it's a

2562
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: little bit of change in my pocket, but it's just

2563
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: goofy fun. I get to know you guys a little

2564
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: bit better. I love when people are like, I want

2565
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: you to roast my boyfriend or my brother, and here

2566
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: are specific, you know, intimate things I want you to

2567
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: share and work into your comedy to kind of spice

2568
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: it up.

2569
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. Those are fun to do.

2570
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 1: Also, there's times where people reached out and just said, look,

2571
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: straight up, hasn't been easy for me with life lately.

2572
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: Any advice you got, I'll rip off ten minutes. I'll

2573
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: tell you the truth of twelve minutes. I'll tell you

2574
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: what's going on if you want to hear it. For Okay,

2575
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 1: it's a weird relationship, yes, but you know it's in

2576
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: a more efficient, real weird relationship than Luke's superchat. That's

2577
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: for you to decide, you know what I mean. But

2578
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 1: still populate that two Key's got to get shoes for school,

2579
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 1: no question about that. But I love it. I love

2580
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 1: connecting with the fans, right. I don't want you to

2581
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: take my liver out or you know, or turn on

2582
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 1: me and start a Reddit page against me.

2583
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 2: But who am I right? I'm you right.

2584
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: We're all weird in our own way. You met a

2585
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of our people today here. They're great, they're weird,

2586
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 1: just like you.

2587
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2588
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 1: I love this place. I love morning combat. All right,

2589
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 1: whish Luke could be here to experience it. But he's

2590
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna get better, he's gonna get back. He did perform yesterday.

2591
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 1: We got good content, and they're telling me, hey, maybe

2592
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: we should spin the wheel again.

2593
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: Maybe we should.

2594
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, you tell me? Like Doc number three

2595
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 1: is a controversial doc in this series because the same

2596
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: thing happened, right, somebody got sick, we got kicked out,

2597
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: we were out of footage. How do we close this doc?

2598
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: They sent BC and a camera crew to Puerto Rico

2599
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 1: and we just made magic happen in a parking lot.

2600
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: That's either the best or worst.

2601
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: MKA improv doc you've ever seen. But it was heard

2602
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 2: and it was sold. Just like today's episode. All right,

2603
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 2: here we go.

2604
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know what else what else we

2605
01:57:55,120 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: got on here? We'll let fate decide, right, We'll let

2606
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: fate decide. A breathtaking television here. Yes, yes, we've already

2607
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 1: had that one. We'll give it one more. We'll give

2608
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: it the college truck one more time. Let's see what

2609
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: we get. You get what you get, all right, you

2610
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: get what you get. I mean, if it's FaceTime, Jay,

2611
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: do we have to do it? I mean, this could

2612
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 1: be this could be something. Oh yeah, we already did

2613
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 1: all these. Okay, one more time, they get one more spin. Okay.

2614
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 1: If it's not it, it's not meant to be. Okay,

2615
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: it's not meant to be here, we'll see. You know,

2616
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I let fate decide a lot of things in my life.

2617
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, I've got trust. I trust the process. Joel

2618
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 1: embiid all right, trust the process here.

2619
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Look at.

2620
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Call Luke. All right, just so you know.

2621
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 2: We didn't prepare for this because I can't. I couldn't ask.

2622
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: Luke if he'd do it right, No, he wouldn't do it.

2623
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna FaceTime him. We're gonna call him. We're gonna

2624
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: see what happens here. Okay, let's call it. I'm like

2625
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: an old man trying to figure out how to play

2626
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 1: at the pump with a credit card.

2627
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: This is great. I don't ever FaceTime where is this

2628
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: on the UH on the old phone? Don't I got it?

2629
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 1: Hold on, I gotta, I gotta. All right, Luke Thomas,

2630
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: here we go. Just a wellness check, alive, wellness check

2631
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: on Luke Thomas. We'll see how this works out. He

2632
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 1: might be on, might be very unhappy, that's possible. Unfortunately,

2633
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 1: the backup plan is called j aar And if Fluke

2634
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: doesn't pick up, so we'll just you know, like I

2635
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 1: just follow the rules here, all right, I just do

2636
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: what they tell me, all right. The UH doesn't seem

2637
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 1: to be picking I mean knowing him. He may pick

2638
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: up on the stall. That's the scary part, all right, unavailable, Okay,

2639
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: so we'll try one once more.

2640
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 2: Let's see this. This could be good. It could be

2641
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 2: good TV.

2642
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 1: How do you type in somebody's name on FaceTime? Let's

2643
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: try it. Let's try this FaceTime, Jason Aaron, This is great, right, right,

2644
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 1: this is real life. You can connect with this, right,

2645
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean we got time to fill right. They won't

2646
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 1: kick us out yet. Two hours show. God, it must

2647
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 1: be a magician to pull this off. Wow, Jason Aaron

2648
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 1: in the Flesh Live and Direct on Morning Combat. Jay,

2649
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: we had a situation today Luke Thomas, the loving co

2650
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 1: host is under the weather. He's ill, so we needed

2651
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 1: to fill time, and there's only so many times we

2652
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 1: can show Tristan's rabid arm tattoo collection we needed.

2653
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 3: Is very extensive and honestly it is worth some maritime

2654
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 3: it is.

2655
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 1: We did see Gaff Pierre has an MK tat on him,

2656
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 1: so we did see that as well. Jay, you haven't

2657
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: been around these parts in a while, and I wouldn't

2658
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 1: doubt if our live viewers just they pick a new

2659
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 1: hobby for the next five minutes. But Jay, how are

2660
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 1: you You know I'm.

2661
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 3: Hanging in there.

2662
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 9: It's it's been a good summer. By the way, you

2663
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 9: look like you're ready to do the weather. You know,

2664
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 9: you have a nice branded two button and the weather

2665
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 9: is great.

2666
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 3: By the way, out here in Long Island where I'm

2667
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 3: where I'm currently deciding. I won't give out my address

2668
02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 3: on air.

2669
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 9: I know that a lot of fans and uh, I

2670
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 9: don't want to make this weekend any longer than it

2671
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:29,160
Speaker 9: has to be.

2672
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: Or this answer, Jay, or this answer to be fair? Yeah, yeah,

2673
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 1: you said you need to phil time.

2674
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay, Pennanty and James.

2675
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of the summer, he once wrote s ots song

2676
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 1: of the summer. Yes, I don't know if you can

2677
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 1: a cappella that right now or you have you know,

2678
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: are you working? I don't. I don't mean to interrupt

2679
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 1: your workflow, dore you No, No, I'm good here, I'm

2680
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 1: good here.

2681
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 3: I actually just had lunch, so your timing isn't technive. Yeah, yeah,

2682
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 3: you know it's on in the summer.

2683
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 9: I find and if you're you know, if you're on

2684
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 9: any streaming service Spotify, Amazon Music, give it a listen.

2685
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 3: Pennington James song this summer. It's really one of those songs.

2686
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 3: It has lasting value.

2687
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 10: You know.

2688
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 9: I wrote it last year thinking it would be the

2689
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 9: song of summer twenty two. Yeah, summer twenty three.

2690
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 1: It's still slast, it's still flat, still last yeah.

2691
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 3: Oh you know we moved over a little more of

2692
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 3: a country vibe this year.

2693
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh. Bon Jovi did that pivot about twenty five years ago,

2694
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 1: and it's his life, right, you know, it's now or never.

2695
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: You think that song is no, but the follow ups

2696
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 1: were okay. The follow you know, I hear I hear that,

2697
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 1: I hear that, you know, I mean bon Jovi laid

2698
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: pipe all over New Jersey for probably about forty years,

2699
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 1: but he's still kind of laying.

2700
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 2: Let's be honest a little bit.

2701
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 3: It's a little more.

2702
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 9: You know, I was in Jersey last night, had the

2703
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:42,120
Speaker 9: opportunity to see Nickelback last night.

2704
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, from the files of the greatest band

2705
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 1: of all time has Shine down, says Jason Aaron. He

2706
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: he willingly went to a Nickelback show. Even Avril Lavina

2707
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: is sick of Nickelback.

2708
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think for different reasons.

2709
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, but uh yeah it was that PSC Bank ironically

2710
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 9: shine that was a last band I saw there.

2711
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 3: But I saw Nickelback last night.

2712
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: You're great, Jay, are from you know, from causing an

2713
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: accident at the way in that time in Brooklyn and

2714
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 1: showing up in Doc number seven through many controversial appearance

2715
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Jay, to be fair, We filmed a lot

2716
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 1: of footage of you for Doc four in Miami, including

2717
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 1: live performances that I'm told they lost the foot they

2718
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, they they copied over the footage. So we

2719
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 1: have not only villainized you on this show, Jay, we

2720
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 1: have also tried to help you get those downloads, get

2721
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 1: those d ms and subscribers. I want to see you

2722
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 1: hanging out with Guy Fieri, which so so do I.

2723
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 3: And isn't that another store. I'll be clipping this for

2724
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 3: later because Hunter will be making this in this house.

2725
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yes, yes, Guyeti's son, Yes, yes.

2726
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, I see shake over your left shoulder if

2727
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 9: I'm not mistaken, the great documentarian of the Morning Combat franchise.

2728
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 3: And I was told that some of my live piano.

2729
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 9: Acoustic performances we're going to make its way into that

2730
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 9: documentary and they never did. So that's a long standing

2731
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 9: gripe that I have with the director of photography and.

2732
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 1: Editor of the of the Great all right, with that said, Jay,

2733
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 1: and final question here because I'm sure I'm breaking and

2734
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of I mean, Luke must be

2735
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 1: rolling over in his grave right now to see what

2736
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 1: this show has become. But I did want to ask you,

2737
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 1: are you okay with some people? You know, they get

2738
02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: on a reality show like the Real World in the

2739
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 1: nineties and then they don't even think about, you know,

2740
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 1: while I slept with seven guys this season, maybe the producer,

2741
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: maybe the directors will portray me as a little bit

2742
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, loose on turn four like Fale Senior ri

2743
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:41,840
Speaker 1: I p if I have the rip. It softens the

2744
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 1: landing a bit. Seatbelts would have too. But I'm also

2745
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 1: going to tell you that.

2746
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 2: Where were we?

2747
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 1: Where we were?

2748
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:50,760
Speaker 2: We were somewhere good.

2749
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh are you okay with the way you've been portrayed

2750
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: in MK history? Because Luke's always been a little heavy handed,

2751
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 1: I may have thrown some bullying vibes your way. Are

2752
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 1: you okay being a career villain inn MK lore?

2753
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 2: I will say that.

2754
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 9: Given the dms that have been split into in my direction,

2755
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 9: as you know there have been a few, I'm very

2756
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:13,880
Speaker 9: okay with it.

2757
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: You know.

2758
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 3: I gravitate towards the pro wrestling vibe where being a villain.

2759
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 1: Is a win as Logan Pulman's in sure sure that

2760
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 1: didn't work for Chris Benoa though. In the end, Jay

2761
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 1: Air and everybody, Jay, can we follow your work anywhere

2762
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 1: moving forward? Are you doing any instructional videos about fish tanks?

2763
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 2: What are you got going on?

2764
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 3: There are a couple of those.

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Speaker 9: There's a fish tank over my shoulder there, But I'd

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Speaker 9: say for today just follow Pennings and James Roby subscribed

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Speaker 9: to your music.

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Speaker 1: You know that's the one plug that song of the

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Speaker 1: summer more like song of my lifetime right s ots,

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Speaker 1: big testosterone summer for Jay Aaron, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for saving our show. Thank you, thank you, Jay Aaron.

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Speaker 1: Everybody for better or worse. One of the founding members

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Speaker 1: members of this show, one of the original you know

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Speaker 1: steaks that they put in the ground and you know, fortunately,

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Speaker 1: like Paterno's statue, they had to disgracefully remove that bud.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, all right, that's been a great show.

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Speaker 1: I got to give it up for my staff here.

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Speaker 1: Luke will return, Lucas is in. Luke is going to

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Speaker 1: be just fine. But they stepped up today. Jed Meshu

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Speaker 1: of Mme Fighting not part of our staff, but part

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Speaker 1: of our family, did us a solid here. I want

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Speaker 1: to shout out Tristan. I want to shout out Long Island.

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Speaker 1: Luke Gaff Jake, the half brother of the controversial figure

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Speaker 1: Jake von Amsterdam Brandon was here on the cameras. He

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Speaker 1: was ready to pitch in. How about our our new

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Speaker 1: supervisor Alex with the food this weekend. It's been great,

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Speaker 1: but we did a two successful day shooting in here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we saved the show with today's show. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it was like that episode of full House where they

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Speaker 1: either saved the kids Telethon and Danny came on and

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Speaker 1: Joey told some jokes, cut it out, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then some of the beach boys showed up and they

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Speaker 1: saved it. You know, I think we may have done

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Speaker 1: that today. You know, they only gave us. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're a guy heard this shit right, We turned you know,

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Speaker 1: well really in.

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Speaker 2: Water into wine.

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Speaker 1: It was more like, yeah, it happened. Yeah, here's the

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Speaker 1: deal though. Enjoy the fights this weekend, Patti for the UFC.

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Speaker 1: There's a decent boxing fight that we were talking about.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have some fun coming your way in the

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Speaker 1: very near future when these things get turned around. Matt

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Speaker 1: Ravola here this weekend, got some pregame previews ready to

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Speaker 1: come your way with Chuck. There's our social handles below.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us a reminder about that merch I

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Speaker 1: did give the wrong date. September sixth is the big day,

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Speaker 1: the big reveal, And you're like, wow, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: guys are really dragging this out a lot of red tape.

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Speaker 2: Is it worth it? Let me work it.

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Speaker 1: I'll put my thing down, I'll flip it and then

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Speaker 1: i'll reverse it. If you all from an different room

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Speaker 1: right right, if you gotta let me search it. What

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Speaker 1: you can have access twenty four hours ahead to the

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Speaker 1: new line. I think they're gonna move quick, and I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna sell out. You know when we make

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Speaker 1: things special on here, like the poncho hoodies you know,

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Speaker 1: the drug rugs there, or the BC Hawaiian shirt which

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Speaker 1: So all good on that regard two hours and eleven

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Speaker 1: minutes of just freedom Joy today, I give you permission

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Speaker 1: be the weirdo that you were always meant to be.

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Speaker 1: Just stay within the legalities of consensual affairs. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for my partner Luke Thomas, he will return

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Speaker 1: a great Mikey Mormal producing, and the fantastic staff right here.

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Speaker 2: I hope I name them all before My.

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Speaker 1: Name is BC enjoy the fights this weekend. Take care

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Speaker 1: of up here. Put yourself first. It's okay, we love you,

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Speaker 1: and we are out of here. Yeah yeah, whoo, all

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Speaker 1: right yeah