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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: Let's go as games on second and gold Cousins lost

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Speaker 1: to Vikings. If we could get him, you know that

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Speaker 1: the sous person at you know, to get to get

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Speaker 1: If we wanted to do it back yet everybody coming

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Speaker 1: with him, but it was it was fun man. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast with your host Mike Wabshaw

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Speaker 1: and Chris Corso. Hey, everyone, welcome in. It's episode eight

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Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Coming to you from t

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Speaker 1: CEO Performance Center and Egan, I am Wabi and I'm

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Speaker 1: in a good mood because the Vikings are one and

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Speaker 1: oh after beating the Atlanta Falcons twenty eight to twelve

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Speaker 1: at us Bank Stadium last season. In today's episode, we

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Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to get to remember. We're

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Speaker 1: coming at you once a week here on the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings Podcast. This is episode eight. So if you've just

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Speaker 1: joined us at the start of the season, or if

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Speaker 1: this is your first one, welcome aboard and we hope

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Speaker 1: you keep listening every single week. You can subscribe and

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Speaker 1: get our podcast wherever you get all your other podcasts, Apple, Google,

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Speaker 1: Vikings dot Com, Vikings app and many other places. Today

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Speaker 1: on the show, we're gonna go over the Vikings win

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Speaker 1: over the Falcons. We're gonna preview the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: Part of our preview of the Packers will be a

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Speaker 1: discussion with Packers dot Com guy Wes Hodkowitz. He has

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Speaker 1: We also are going to speak with ESPN's Kevin Seyffert,

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Speaker 1: a friend of the program, someone who covered the Vikings

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Speaker 1: he's got lots of good stories about the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: And you're also going to hear from Mash. Who's Mash.

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Speaker 1: You might not know who he is right now, but

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Speaker 1: including cleats for NFL players, So you've seen some of

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Speaker 1: his artwork on Vikings players. And it was Chris Corso

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Speaker 1: who had the discussion with Mash and I welcome Christian

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Speaker 1: right now? What's up man? We are one in oh

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Speaker 1: and all things are good going into lambeau Field for

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Speaker 1: I mean, what more could you be excited about then

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Speaker 1: it gets cold? Over Mosh, what was up with Mash?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of him? Mosh was really cool.

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Speaker 1: He came to actually drop off cleats for the week

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Speaker 1: one game for Stefan Diggs. All the designs on the cleats.

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Speaker 1: I think Diggs had him do his cleats every single

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Speaker 1: that later. He also works with NBA players like Lebron

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Speaker 1: If you want to check out his work while you're

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Speaker 1: find him. M Ache two seven five that's his handle,

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Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty four thousand followers on Instagram. Go

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Speaker 1: check out his work. Also coming up on the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: off with some news and notes Chris, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: the Packers intend to try to win with, it doesn't

431
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Speaker 1: appear as though they were going to be nearly as

432
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Speaker 1: explosive as maybe people had hoped. And so I look

433
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Speaker 1: at the Vikings defense, you know, right on par with

434
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Speaker 1: the Bears in terms of being able to hold back

435
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Speaker 1: that Packer's offense. And then and then we'll get our

436
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Speaker 1: first true sense of what the Vikings offense will do

437
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Speaker 1: in a game that's probably going to be much more

438
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Speaker 1: competitive and that you know, than the Falcons was in

439
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Speaker 1: the first half and maybe the second. But I do

440
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Speaker 1: think that they, from a defensive standpoint, have a really

441
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Speaker 1: good chance at shutting down that Packer's offense. And then

442
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: there's enough good things to see in Week one offensively

443
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Speaker 1: for the Vikings to think they'll have a chance to

444
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Speaker 1: score more than the Bears do. They give the Packer's

445
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Speaker 1: defense well, looking forward to watching it. I'm sure you

446
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Speaker 1: are too, and excited to hear your thoughts on the

447
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: game after it happens. And I always enjoy our chats

448
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: and exchanges, and I know our fans enjoy when you

449
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Speaker 1: come on and give us your thoughts and information. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for all the time today, Kevin. We appreciate it.

451
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Speaker 1: Have a good rest of the week. Folks can check

452
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Speaker 1: out your work at ESPN dot com. Of course, and

453
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: we like to send them there because you always have

454
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Speaker 1: good stuff. Thanks Kevin, well, thank you appreciate it. You

455
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Speaker 1: bet all right. We're joined now by one of our

456
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Speaker 1: guests for the day and he's going to give us

457
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Speaker 1: some information on the adversary for the week, on the

458
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. It's wes Hodcowitz of Packers dot com.

459
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Speaker 1: You can find him on Twitter at wes Hod at

460
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Speaker 1: w E s h o D. Give him a follow,

461
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: especially this week as we get ready to play the

462
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. What's up West? Oh, not much. How

463
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: are you guys doing. We're pretty good. We're one and all. Yeah,

464
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: it feels good, right, Yeah, it does feel good, you

465
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Speaker 1: know the feeling you guys are one and out as

466
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Speaker 1: well after you beat the Chicago Bears, and the schedule

467
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Speaker 1: makers of course do you a favor like they always do,

468
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Speaker 1: and they give you extra days to get ready for us.

469
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Speaker 1: So that's great, funny how it works out there. Yeah, yeah, interesting.

470
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Speaker 1: We're just happy we get to play a warm game

471
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Speaker 1: out there in Green Bay for the first time. And

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many years has it been that

473
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Speaker 1: we last year out there? Did we put on that year? Yeah? God?

474
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Speaker 1: It always seems like it's cold there when we go. Yeah,

475
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: those cold winds blowing. No, it is neat. I mean

476
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Speaker 1: someone actually in one of the columns that we do

477
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Speaker 1: for our whipsite, someone asked about that, about how I

478
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Speaker 1: feel about, you know, the division games to start off

479
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Speaker 1: the season. I don't know what you guys think about it.

480
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: I really like it because it's as I feel like,

481
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: it makes September a lot more compelling to get some

482
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Speaker 1: meaningful matchup, so to go back to back with the

483
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Speaker 1: Bears and the Vikings. I think for me, as far

484
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Speaker 1: as from a coverage standpoint, I don't think you could

485
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Speaker 1: really ask for a better narrative to start a seating. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, and you don't. You know, you don't need

487
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Speaker 1: to really sell early season games in general, But you

488
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Speaker 1: can also go in the opposite extreme and just have

489
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Speaker 1: everything in the world to sell, which is what you

490
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Speaker 1: guys have. You also have a bunch of home games

491
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Speaker 1: early on in your schedule, so it's a big opportunity

492
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Speaker 1: for Green Bay to take control early. And I'm sure

493
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Speaker 1: that that's what you guys have talked about, and I'm

494
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Speaker 1: sure that's sort of what you're hearing in the locker

495
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Speaker 1: room as well. Yeah, And I think it was one

496
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Speaker 1: of the things too, in the locker room after the

497
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Speaker 1: game at Soldier Field, and you guys know what it's

498
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Speaker 1: like and there it's such a tight quarters. And Preston

499
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Speaker 1: Smith and Zadarius Smith, the Packer's two offseason acquisitions at

500
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Speaker 1: outside linebacker, they were talking to the media and Preston

501
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Speaker 1: even said of themselves too, like we feel with the

502
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Speaker 1: defense performance that they had against the Bears, we feel

503
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Speaker 1: like we woke a lot of people up. And I

504
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: think it's those type of matchups that when you can

505
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Speaker 1: take on a team that's a defending division champion that's

506
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Speaker 1: had the success and the expectations that the Bears have

507
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Speaker 1: and sort of switch that and pull some of that

508
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Speaker 1: momentum right off the bat. I think it's one of

509
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Speaker 1: those things that this team probably really needed coming off

510
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Speaker 1: of how last year ended, the fact that they didn't

511
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Speaker 1: actually win a road game until that come back and

512
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Speaker 1: against the New York Jets, you know, right around Christmas time.

513
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Speaker 1: So it's it's those type of those type of victories.

514
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Speaker 1: I think they can really catapult you into a season,

515
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Speaker 1: and obviously the Packers now trying to you know, build

516
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Speaker 1: some of that momentum under Mattlisfloor. My biggest takeaway from

517
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Speaker 1: that game on Thursday night was hearing Aaron Rodgers in

518
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Speaker 1: the postgame interview I think it was Michelle de Foye,

519
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: and he said, well, oh, yeah, we have a defense.

520
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Speaker 1: We have a defense. Mean, when do you hear him

521
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Speaker 1: say When you hear him say something like that, I mean,

522
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Speaker 1: he must be pretty confident in how the defense looks

523
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Speaker 1: going against them every day in practice. Yeah, And I

524
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Speaker 1: think that was probably the biggest thing for Rogers because

525
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Speaker 1: you know, he didn't play in the preseason, and to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, the way he was talking, he

527
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Speaker 1: didn't really seem like there was a big need for

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Speaker 1: him too, because you got to remember he was going

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Speaker 1: up against Mike Petton scheme and those players every single

530
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Speaker 1: day during training camp and seeing it frequent later in

531
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Speaker 1: the off season program. Petton wasn't playing with kid gloves.

532
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Speaker 1: I mean he was throwing unscouted looks at him. He

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Speaker 1: was doing different things, and I think Rogers really felt

534
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Speaker 1: like after seeing that type of defense and what they

535
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Speaker 1: were doing, he wanted to see it in real action

536
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: and to go out there and put that performance together

537
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Speaker 1: against Mitchell Trubiski, the fact that they were three of

538
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Speaker 1: fifteen the Bears were on third downs, the Packers stopped

539
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: him several times on fourth down. That's something that these

540
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: last few years, it's really been a struggle for Green

541
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Speaker 1: Bay trying to find those stops when they need him,

542
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Speaker 1: regardless if it's third and short or third and long.

543
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Speaker 1: They've just had those gutted plays where that I think

544
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Speaker 1: just can be demoralizing for a defense when you can't

545
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Speaker 1: get to stop then you really need it. From my

546
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Speaker 1: perspective covering the game, that was probably as dominant of

547
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Speaker 1: a performance as I can recall. I know last they

548
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: shout out the Buffalo Bills, but it didn't feel like that.

549
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Speaker 1: I mean this one. It felt like every single time

550
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: that defense took the field they were going to get

551
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Speaker 1: to stop when they needed it in a close ballgame,

552
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously they did to be able to

553
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Speaker 1: close it in the waning seconds with that. Preston Smith

554
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Speaker 1: sack Wes, I think you guys were in a six

555
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: dB personnel grouping much of the game, and definitely in

556
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Speaker 1: five dbs most of the game. Do you think that

557
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: is a Mike Petton thing for the season or do

558
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Speaker 1: you think that's because you were playing a scrambling running quarterback. Well,

559
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: it's two things. I think One is the Packers really

560
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: don't have a second inside linebacker at the moment. With

561
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Speaker 1: orn Burke's dealing with that chess injury that partially torn

562
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Speaker 1: Tech that he suffered in the first preseason game. Blake

563
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: Martinez is kind of the lone inside linebacker. They have

564
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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick in Tie Summers that played during

565
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Speaker 1: the preseason, but he's still coming along. He was only

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Speaker 1: on special teams. Then they traded for bj Goodson. So

567
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: what they did in this particular matchup and we'll see

568
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Speaker 1: what their plan is going forward these next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But they took race even Green, who was an undrafted

570
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Speaker 1: safety last year, and they played him in the box

571
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Speaker 1: with Blake Martinez basically the entire game. To give you

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Speaker 1: an idea of how big of a change this was.

573
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Speaker 1: I mean, Green last year played right around one hundred

574
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Speaker 1: snaps I think on defense the entire season. He played

575
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: fifty seven in this game. He's been prepared for that

576
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: hybrid role. Mike Petton likes that hybrid role. But the

577
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: one variation we saw against the Bears was that they

578
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: stuck with a five man front with one true inside linebacker.

579
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Speaker 1: They've done those hybrid nickel packages where you play the

580
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: safety next to the inside linebacker, but we hadn't really

581
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Speaker 1: seen that three three five look before. Matt Lafleur kind

582
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: of downplayed that a little bit and said, it's just,

583
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, just scheming. It's just what the game was.

584
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Speaker 1: But I think that that wrinkle is pretty interesting because

585
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Speaker 1: if the Packers choose to still use that going forward,

586
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways that you can tivot

587
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: off of that, depending on what kind of matchups you're

588
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: looking for. I think Kenny Clark is really good. Do

589
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Speaker 1: you Yeah, Yeah, I do. Let's be honest. I mean,

590
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Speaker 1: one of the things I thought was a weak point

591
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Speaker 1: for this defense in years past, they didn't have that

592
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Linville Joseph type defensive tackle that they could just you know,

593
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: control football game that they can. They can they can

594
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: defend the run, but they can make impacts in different ways.

595
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: They had a player like that in Ryan Pickett a

596
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: number of years ago, but Pickett was mostly just a

597
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Speaker 1: run player. The thing that is interesting and intriguing about

598
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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark's long term potential is the fact that he

599
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: can pretty much do it all. I mean, he can

600
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Speaker 1: get after the pastor when they need him to. You

601
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: guys will see it in those dime packages. I mean,

602
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark is in some cases the only defensive, true

603
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: defensive linemen that's in there. But yet you can play

604
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Speaker 1: him in the early rundowns. You can use them in

605
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: a nickel and get him jet rushing up the field.

606
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: And Penton really moved those guys around a lot. I

607
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Speaker 1: just like the synergy that we saw with him and

608
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: the two Smiths and Dean Lowry who just got an extension.

609
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Speaker 1: There is a lot of comfort right now with that

610
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Speaker 1: defensive front, and I think when you're looking at the

611
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Speaker 1: the vision and what they want this identity to be defensively,

612
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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark's going to be a big part of that.

613
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: He's a good locker room guy. Last year he won

614
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Speaker 1: the Media Guy Award for his dealings with the Green

615
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: Bay Press, and he's just an all around decent human

616
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: being who also happens to be a pretty exceptional football player.

617
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Speaker 1: From a narrative standpoint, west before the season started, before

618
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Speaker 1: you guys kicked off with the Bears, if you wanted

619
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Speaker 1: to poke holes and the Packers it was new head

620
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: coach and veteran quarterback and do they get along? And

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Speaker 1: Rogers learning a new offense? Right, that was like kind

622
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Speaker 1: of the fun thing to poke at Green Bay about.

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Speaker 1: Then you play the game in your defense balls out

624
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: and holds Chicago to three points and you win. So

625
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: then everyone's talking about your defense. But if you were

626
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: one of those hanging on that narrative I mentioned before

627
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: the game about the new offense, you'd say, ah, they

628
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: only scored ten points. So do you say you do? You?

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Speaker 1: Just are you? Like? While we were at Socier Field

630
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Speaker 1: against a really good defense, what more do you expect?

631
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Speaker 1: Or do you think there's some credence to maybe a

632
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Speaker 1: slow start for the offense? So what do you expect

633
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: in week two? I could see a little bit of both,

634
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. There isn't I was mentioning this

635
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: in one of the columns to do on our website,

636
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: like there you go from the Bears to the Vikings,

637
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: there isn't a whole lot of let up there. The

638
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: Vikings even are a little bit more veteran and have

639
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more chemistry with a lot of those

640
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: pieces being in place for multiple years. So the challenge

641
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: is going to be the exact same for this Packers offense.

642
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: I feel as it was last week, with the only

643
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: difference being now you're at home, it would be more

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Speaker 1: favorable and communication standpoint. The thing that in terms of

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Speaker 1: why I think long term there's a lot of optimism

646
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Speaker 1: here with this offense is because Aaron Rodgers is on

647
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: board regardless of what the narrative has been, and I

648
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of it was trying to fill the

649
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Speaker 1: void in the offseason. Rogers is genuinely excited about this

650
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Speaker 1: scheme and what Matt Lafleur could potentially bring. And although

651
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: there was some sputtering, I mean they had three straight

652
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: three and ELTs against Chicago, that fourth series I thought

653
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Speaker 1: really spoke to what this offense could be, and that

654
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Speaker 1: was where they ended up hitting quizbelde Is Scantling on

655
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Speaker 1: the forty seven yard play right off the bat. He

656
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: came back with the past to Marcedes Lewis, who's going

657
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: to be more involved in this offense this season, had

658
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: a ten yard pass to Tavante Adams, and then on

659
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Speaker 1: a fifty fifty ball which was probably more like a

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Speaker 1: fifty zero because he caught the you know, the bears

661
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Speaker 1: of twelve men on the field. He was able to

662
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Speaker 1: connect with Jimmy Graham on an eight yard touchdown. Four

663
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Speaker 1: plays the full length of the field and really playing

664
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Speaker 1: within rhythm and tempo. That's what this offense is looking for.

665
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Speaker 1: Packers are going to be playing a lot more under

666
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Speaker 1: center this season. You know, in normal game situations, you're

667
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Speaker 1: going to see more two tight end looks. They brought

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Speaker 1: back the fullback with Danny Vitally last year, probably for

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Speaker 1: the first time, honestly Enfranchise history, they went into a

670
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Speaker 1: season without a fullback. I don't ever recall that happening before.

671
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Speaker 1: But they you know, they're getting back to some more

672
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Speaker 1: of those true, tried and true West Coast principles, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's the reason why when Rogers sees what

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Speaker 1: the defense is doing, he feels like, you know, they're

675
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Speaker 1: gonna have to get there. You know, they want to

676
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Speaker 1: get the thing pulled together quickly. They want to get

677
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Speaker 1: back to be in a really high octane offense. But

678
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Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit of relief that

679
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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily have to be this you know, this

680
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Speaker 1: air show every single week where they're trying to outscore

681
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Speaker 1: the opposition. All right, Wes, Folks can go to Packers

682
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: dot com to check out your guys coverage of this

683
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: game and also Packers Unscripted. Have you dropped that for

684
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: the week yet? Your podcast with Spofford. Yeah, we do

685
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: that every day of the week. So once Monday, on

686
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Speaker 1: Monday comes around, we just we just recorded another one here,

687
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Speaker 1: so obviously trying to preview this matchup and get a

688
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Speaker 1: feel for what this thing's gonna look like on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, have a good week preparing for the game.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you on Sunday at Lambeau. Okay, thanks West,

691
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Speaker 1: all right, thanks guys, appreciate it. Okay, our thanks to

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Speaker 1: the two guests for joining us to talk Vikings and Packers,

693
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Speaker 1: Kevin Seyffert and Wes Hodkowitz. Great information from them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do the top five Chris top five defensive performances

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Speaker 1: from Week one. I took a scan of all the

696
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Speaker 1: games and the back scores, and of you know what,

697
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Speaker 1: I saw the games I watched in the highlights, and

698
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, there was a lot of

699
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Speaker 1: points scored in the NFL in Week one, A lot

700
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Speaker 1: of high scoring games. So let's give some love to

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00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: the good defensive performances that we saw from week one.

702
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Speaker 1: So that's the top five list four today. Number five

703
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: is actually gonna be a team that we've talked a

704
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Speaker 1: lot about already on the podcast. Who is it in

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00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers? I have to give it to him. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think I have them a little bit higher. I

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Speaker 1: hate to say number five and number five, because they

708
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Speaker 1: really put on a show on the road at Soldier

709
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Speaker 1: Field in Chicago in front of a national audience. Yeah,

710
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean three points allowed. They sacked Mitchell Trubisky five times.

711
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: They were on the road. We heard a lot about

712
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Speaker 1: the improved defense, and they came and showed it. So

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Speaker 1: I have them at five. Where do you have them

714
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Speaker 1: in your top five? I have them at two too,

715
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Speaker 1: because I think that's pretty good. We had West pretty

716
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: much summed it up for you what they did. They

717
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: obviously had less on the linebacker front, showing that, but

718
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: their defensive backs really played well. Jay Are Alexander the cornerback,

719
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Speaker 1: the young corner there. I think he did a really

720
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Speaker 1: good job on this game. Number four for me, the

721
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens who went to Miami, who I know, is not,

722
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Speaker 1: you know, an offensive jugger, not at least not yet.

723
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: They got a lot of new pieces there with a

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Speaker 1: new head coach. But the Ravens go on the road

725
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: to Miami and they surrender ten points, They have three

726
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: sacks and two picks, and they win six hundred and

727
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: forty seven to ten. It is basically what they did.

728
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson had five touchdowns, right, he had five touchdowns.

729
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: He played. People say he can't throw the ball, man,

730
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: he was slinging the rock. The Ravens put it on

731
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins in Week one, and a big part of

732
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Speaker 1: it was not just the offense. It was a really

733
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Speaker 1: good defensive performances. Defensive performance. Do you have the Ravens

734
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Speaker 1: in your top five? They are number four for me.

735
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: I left them off because of the competition. Calibrovapona, okay,

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Speaker 1: number three for me. The New England Patriots on Sunday

737
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Speaker 1: Night Football, they host Ben Roethlisberger, Juju Smith, Schuster, James

738
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Speaker 1: Conner at All and they give up three points. They

739
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: win thirty three to three. The defense balls out Roethlisberger's

740
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: zero touchdowns, one pick, James Connor twenty one yards rushing

741
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: for the game, not on a drive or and a

742
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: half for the game. James Connor twenty one yards rushing.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots number three on my list. Yeah, they're not

744
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: my favorite team out there. I don't think I've documented that,

745
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: but I put them at number one because, okay I did,

746
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: because they led up three points against the Steelers offense

747
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: that is pretty darned good. And we talk about Tom Brady,

748
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: we talk about all of those targets that he has,

749
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Speaker 1: but man, this defense, Bill Belichick somehow finds a way

750
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: to get these role players. These guys are who are

751
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: good at one specific thing, and he puts them in

752
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: positions to just make plays and obviously make stops and

753
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: not allow touchdowns, which they did not allow one. So

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Speaker 1: number five for me, Packers number four, Ravens number three,

755
00:36:53,120 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Patriots number two skull skull. Yeah, Minnesota Kens believable at

756
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: home against a really good offense. Four sacks, two picks,

757
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: basically pitched a shutout until like I don't know, eight

758
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: minutes to go, nine minutes to go in the game,

759
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: and gave up two touchdowns that didn't matter inconsequential scores

760
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: essentially one twenty eight to twelve. But I was licking

761
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: my Chops in the fourth quarter, thinking ooh, looking at

762
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Speaker 1: my MEETI guy it. When's the last time we had

763
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: to shut out? Oh it's a Green Bay Packers. Oh

764
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: we played them next will I was thinking shut out

765
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: but we didn't quite get it. But a really good

766
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Speaker 1: defensive performance by the Vikings. Number two on my list?

767
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: Where are they on yours? They are number three on

768
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: my list? I have the Pats at number one. I

769
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Speaker 1: have the Packers. Unfortunately I had to put them in

770
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Speaker 1: number two just because of that performance on the road.

771
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: Vikings right there behind them. But I think the Vikings

772
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: are gonna do it every week, So I put the

773
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Speaker 1: Packers one one ahead because I don't see it happening

774
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: very I don't see it happening in week two, so

775
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: I had to put them. Put them there in a

776
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: tough environment, its love it field. But yeah, the Vikings,

777
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Speaker 1: I think we'll be number one. So who's missing? Who's

778
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: number one on the list for me? Can you guess?

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: Number one on the list for you? Has to be

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Speaker 1: Let's see here was it? The Bears, No Titans, the Titans.

781
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Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans go on the road to Cleveland. Ob

782
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: J Baker Mayfield and uh that's gonna be a good offense,

783
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Like the Browns are not a bad offense. That just

784
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: you know that that they're lame. The Browns are going

785
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: to be good and score a lot of points. And

786
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: the Titans said, Nope, not this week. Sorry. The Titans

787
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: three picks and five sacks of Baker Mayfield. Nick Chubb,

788
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Speaker 1: who's really good, was not a factor O b j

789
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Speaker 1: Um disappointed fantasy owners. I think he had like seventy

790
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: receiving yards or something like that. So I thought it

791
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: was a really good performance by the Titans. Yeah, Mike

792
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Varible knows how to coach a defense, that's for sure. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Fan voicemail time, the question for last week your favorite

794
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: game in Vikings history. We've got three of them. Let's

795
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Speaker 1: start it with number one Lobby and Chris Vikings fan

796
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Aaron from Green Bay, Man, What a great topic for

797
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: this week favorite Viking game ever? For me, there's more

798
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: to going into a game than just what you see

799
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: happened on the field and the plays that are made

800
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: in the yards and both kinds of things and branches

801
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: out more to the people that you're with and memories

802
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: that you make. And so for me, it was the

803
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: year that my son had turned nine years old, my oldest,

804
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: and he's a very intellectual kid, and he just never

805
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: really saw the point of watching football on television. I

806
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: was living in Michigan at the time, and he, you know,

807
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: he gave a sense to football and whatever. But he

808
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: started playing it and he started to like it. And

809
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: so we had played a couple of games in his

810
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: league that year, and we sat down the year it

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Speaker 1: was two thousand and nine. It was a home game

812
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: as Week three. Rut far but just become a member

813
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: of the Packers, and he knew enough to knew that

814
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: he liked let Farve if nothing else. And we were

815
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: watching the game and Mike sling Ocarrey was the flavor

816
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: of the month. He had had a good start to

817
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: the season. He was hrs as a linebacker and they

818
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: played exceptionally well, particularly in the third quarter. Things started

819
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: to kind of go against the Vikings, and if you

820
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: look at the stat line, you thought that the Vikings

821
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: would have done really well in that game. But I

822
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: turnover and then you know, there's a lot of impotence

823
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Speaker 1: on offense throughout the second half, interrupted by one one

824
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: hundred one yard kickoff returned by Percy Harvin and then

825
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: you get down to at the end and like he

826
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Speaker 1: turnover on downs. Then they stopped the Niners. They get

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Speaker 1: the ball back, they get down and of course everybody

828
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Speaker 1: all knows the play when Brett five hits Greg Blues

829
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Speaker 1: on the back line of the end zone and oh

830
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Speaker 1: my heavens, and the whole thing comes on glued. And

831
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Speaker 1: my son had stopped and he had sat with me

832
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Speaker 1: for most of the fourth quarter, and when that path

833
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: became complete, he looked at me wide eyed, and he

834
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: looked back at the television. Arms went up from the

835
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: officials and everybody started celebrating, and we started yelling, and

836
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: he started yelling. He started jumping up and down, and

837
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Speaker 1: he's been a Viking fan ever since. That's one of

838
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: the greatest memories of my life. Thanks guys, school Bikes.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I like when the personal connections are

840
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: always when when you talk about you're watching it with

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00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: your family, and I mean, that's awesome. Yeah, that is awesome,

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Speaker 1: all right. Number two. Hey, this is Ned from Salt

843
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah, longtime Minnesota Vikings fan. My favorite game

844
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: in Minnipesota Vikings history is going all the way back

845
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty the first miracle in Minnesota, the Miracle

846
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: at the met December fourteenth, nineteen eighty, Tommy Kramer leading

847
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: the game winning drive, first on a hook and ladder

848
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Speaker 1: play to Joe Sensor and then a laddle to Teddy Brown,

849
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Speaker 1: followed by the forty six yard miracle catch to Ahmad

850
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Speaker 1: Rashad to put the Minnesota Vikings into the playoffs in

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00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties season. I was seven years old. I

852
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: still remember that game awesome. I'm getting the chills love it.

853
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Speaker 1: We got an old school one from back in the day,

854
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: and we got a fairly new school one from O nine,

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Speaker 1: the Greg Lewis play all right, number three, Hey waby

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: Ted too minutes talk to us listening to the podcast

857
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: though it was a pretty good episode. Wanted to call

858
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: in on the Vikings Nostelgia and unfortunately favorite game I

859
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: guess is Bett Barbs last game against the Chicago Bears

860
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: at TCS. I was holding at the time from leave

861
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: in the military and got an opportunity to take in

862
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: the game and actually be on the field and stand

863
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: on the Viking sidelines and take that atmosphere in and

864
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: have a great experience with the kicker, Ryan Longwell and

865
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: take it all in. Unfortunately it is Brett Fliver's last game.

866
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: But from a fan experience, you know, the anticipation of him,

867
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: was he gonna play that game? Was he not going

868
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: to play that game? And being down there early and

869
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: seeing Brett all covered up in warm clothes and covering

870
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: his face and trying to get loose and seeing that,

871
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, from up close and personnel, quite a cool experience.

872
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: And h yeah, thanks for that listening. You guys have

873
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: some awesome stories that year. All right, that's awesome. What

874
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: is it about Brett Farve that just brings out so

875
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: much emotion into everything? It's amazing, it really is. It is.

876
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: And he's He's an icon. He's an NFL icon. He's

877
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: not just a great player. He was someone who was

878
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: able to draw that emotion from people for him or

879
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: against him. You know, So I lied, I think I'm

880
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: I was just teasing our buddy Van because we actually

881
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: have four voices. Van. You're in Van, all right, let's

882
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: hear from Van. Howdy, folks. It's Van from Fort Worth, Texas,

883
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: from the Mouth of the South, the Minnesota Vikings capital

884
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: of the South. That is, speaking of mouth of the South. Alright, alright, alright,

885
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: how you been? You heard about the preseason getting busted? Right,

886
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: not to worth. We got a brand new regular season

887
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: being prepped as we speak. It's out at the moontime.

888
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: Bullcigs ay one's gonna be there. Yeah to got Now

889
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm here to talk about the Minnesota Vatkins. You know

890
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: the I K I N s keep on Vikings. My

891
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: fellow buck a ruse Wabi and Chris asked me, what

892
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: is my favorite Vikings game I've ever seen in all

893
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: its history? Well, since I wasn't around back in eight

894
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: hundred eighty or so to watch actual Vatkins play a

895
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: game they called Pillage the Village, I'd have to say

896
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: my favorite Vikings game was a Mini Apple was marrible game.

897
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: My buds and I were watching it a sports barn Dallas,

898
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: and that place went hog wild when Digs caught that

899
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: pass from that Texan case Ketom. I wish we would

900
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: have won that super Bowl that season because it would

901
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: have been a cooler if we did. Now you'll have

902
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: to excuse me why they and Chris, I'm Nicola, grab

903
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: a sixer. I'm play little loose ball. Go all right,

904
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey loves the Minnesota Vikings podcast. He does the

905
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: voices every week and he does do a good job.

906
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: And I mean, how do we how do you not

907
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: include Matthew McConney right when you get a chance. All right,

908
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: thank you, Mattie Van. We appreciate it, and thank you

909
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: everyone for calling and leaving voicemails. We appreciate those, and

910
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: we want you to do it for next week's show.

911
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: And the topic for next week border battle. What's your

912
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: favorite ritual or story concerning a fan rivalry you have

913
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: with a Green Bay Packers fan. That's pretty good. Let

914
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: us know nine five two nine one eight eight four

915
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: three eight nine five two nine one eight eight four

916
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: three eight favorite ritual or story that you have with

917
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: another Green Bay Packers fan? Or send us anything else

918
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: you want to send us, Give us an opinion, send

919
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: us a question. We'll try and include it on the

920
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings Podcast. All right, do you have anything else

921
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: to do? Yeah, we got one more thing. We got

922
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: Mash your com with Mash how to go dude, Mash.

923
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw him sitting in our little lobby area, Mash.

924
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: He came to the facility before the first game against

925
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, and he was here to drop off

926
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: some cleats for one of our players. So really interesting guy,

927
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: and man does he have a good life. So let's

928
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: take a listen to that. All right, all right, this

929
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: week's guest is a special guest. It's Mash, who actually

930
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: designs the cleats for some of your favorite Viking players. Mash,

931
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: what is it like to just be in this TCO

932
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: Performance Center and see where the Vikings practice every day?

933
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I mean I had the fortunate experience

934
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: to be at Winter Park and see how where they

935
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: came from. Oh yeah, and to come here fast forward.

936
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: It's just miles and miles ahead of anything I could

937
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: have imagined. You know, It's obviously beautiful and it's just cool.

938
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: They keep on building on it. So it's definitely a

939
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: good a good selling point for free agents to come here. Obviously,

940
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: of course people want to stay, and now you know

941
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: why people want to stay, yep, for sure. So we

942
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: are here before the week one game against the Atlanta Falcons.

943
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Can you explain to the fans why you're here today? Um,

944
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: a few days before the game. Well, well, first off,

945
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming for the game. That's how it started. I

946
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: love that and because you know skul bikes. But um,

947
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm out here to finally deliver Stefan Diggs cleats for

948
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: this week. I've been doing his cleats for the last

949
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: four seasons now and I've never actually had the opportunity

950
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: to just hand him off. I'm always mailing him out

951
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: to dentists and getting him handed off or having to

952
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: text them to see them what it looks like. So

953
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: dj Ski and obviously the Vikings have set it up,

954
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do a little little film time and

955
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: little little little piece with Steph and I to you know,

956
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: kind of talk about our story with the cleats and

957
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 1: one that obviously we're gonna start a week one with Atlanta. Yeah,

958
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: that's awesome. So Mash has been doing Stefan Diggs cleats

959
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: for a long time now. Those crazy colorways and custom

960
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: things that you see on on Diggs's cleats all over

961
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: social media, that's done by yours truly right here, Mash. So, um,

962
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: what is it like, how'd you get into this business

963
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: and how did you get into working with a lot

964
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: of the Vikings not just Digs, but you do like

965
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: a ton of the unbelievable Adam bar Uh griff uh.

966
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: And then obviously, you know when we do my cause

967
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: my cleats, you know, half the team. I spit the

968
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: duties now with with a salvator who's a local artist

969
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: who's also a very talented guy and a good dude.

970
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I've been customizing and doing I've been

971
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: an artist all my life, um, you know, always drawing

972
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: pictures at a slam magazine and portraits and things that,

973
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: drawing on sneakers and I played sports, I played, you know,

974
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: and I always did art. Um, but the actual doing

975
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: custom sneakers started seventeen years ago. That's when I started

976
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: doing it. And I had this is obviously well before

977
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: social media. There wasn't even you know, my Space. Then.

978
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: At that point, I remember, I'm feeling old, remembering my

979
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: every day I wake up in the morning, I feel old.

980
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: But yeah it's Um, I saw a magazine or calls

981
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: doing art on shoes and always I've always been the

982
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: competitive type, and I was like, I could do better

983
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, So I went and got some paint

984
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: from the craft store and some beat up airmax to

985
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: my mom's basement. I'm painting on them and actually they

986
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: were shades of purple god go figure. I love that,

987
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: but um yeah, I mean in hindsight, they were terrible

988
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: because they weren't properly prepped. There was there wasn't the

989
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: right paint. It was none of that stuff. So, you know,

990
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: but I wore him to the barbershop and the barber's like, oh,

991
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: when did Nike come out with those shoes? And I

992
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: was like, I made him, and I'm like wow. You know,

993
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: so like you probably fast forward a month later, every

994
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: barber in the shops wearing my shoes. So that was like,

995
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: that's how it started picking me up. That was social media.

996
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: Back then, You're in the barbershop, everyone talks, you know

997
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I started, you know, getting better

998
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: and better. When I was doing I felt comfortable to

999
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: actually charged money for my services, and I was still

1000
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: obviously working on the side. I wasn't like how it

1001
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: is now. And you know, then you kind of fast

1002
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: forward to social media era and time and things like that,

1003
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, getting catching the eye of Lebron and you know,

1004
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: doing stuff for him and Dwayne Waiting, all these different guys,

1005
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: and obviously that kind of put me in more of

1006
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: a mainstream audience because obviously you get people in Iowa

1007
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 1: and maybe Minnesota no know who I am now because

1008
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: because of that, you know I was. I'm from New York,

1009
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: so you know in the New York area, people knew

1010
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: who I was in sneaker world or whatever, just because

1011
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: I built my own reputation. And it wasn't you know

1012
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: by doing a post on Instagram. I was going out

1013
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: and handing my shoes out to people and getting my

1014
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: card out. And you're actually going out and having face

1015
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: to face interactions. It's unbelievable. But I think the kind

1016
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: of being raised in that era helped me now because

1017
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: now you know, these younger guys they value, you know,

1018
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: the face to face interactions and relationships because that's so

1019
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: much more important. I mean, obviously, you know, getting paids

1020
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: great and all, but you know, you have a friendship

1021
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: and some where they know if they need something done

1022
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: in two days, Mosh is the guy. They'll get it done.

1023
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna get done, but he'll

1024
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: forget a way to get it done. How do you balance?

1025
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean, so it's just word of mouth where this started.

1026
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: You talked about working with NBA players like le Bron

1027
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: and Dwayne Wade and people like that, and then word

1028
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: gets out, how do you manage? I mean, you're doing

1029
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,240
Speaker 1: how many cleats a week at this point? How many

1030
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: shoes a week? You do? MLB players as well? I mean,

1031
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: how do you manage just doing all these cleats? I mean,

1032
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: and they're not just it's not just like an easy

1033
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: job to put together these pairs of I mean no,

1034
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy because the way that the custom sneaker

1035
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: culture has grown, i'd say in the last like five

1036
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: six years, it was really taboo when I first started.

1037
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of like, you know, when

1038
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: you just painted colors on shoes, you didn't want to

1039
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: be confused with having some fake sneakers on, like because

1040
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, you see the flea market Jordan's with all

1041
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: these crazy color ways and they were fake. But you know,

1042
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: so it was almost sacrilegious to do Jordan's back then. Um,

1043
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: but you know, I was doing Air forcewans and dunks

1044
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: and things to that. But what I was doing, I

1045
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: was like I was an artist, so I would always

1046
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: like actually do real artwork on them. And again, you know,

1047
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: as I learned how to do things, properly and how

1048
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: to prep shoes and had to you know, so the

1049
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: first time you wear them they don't crack and peel

1050
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: like like the first pair did. Yeah, you'll learn how

1051
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: to do it, but um, the balance of it, it's

1052
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: just crazy how it's gone because now I work with corporations.

1053
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: I did shooes for Jay Z's four four four tour.

1054
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: I did all that's awesome, Like it's crazy. I did

1055
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: choose for Nipsey Hustle right before he got killed. I

1056
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: was doing I was, I was at the Grammy brunch

1057
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: with him, and it's crazy. Then I'm not talking about

1058
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: going in the baseball season. Then it's football season like

1059
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: I used to have like a um an off season,

1060
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: well not an off season, but like a slower time,

1061
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: you know. And that's where my friends like, hey, you know,

1062
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: when you know you get a little bit of time,

1063
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, squeeze, man. I don't have it anymore, which

1064
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: is a blessing. Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously it's

1065
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: a blessing. And it's great. You know that the phone's

1066
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: always ringing, and you know, I just work really hard

1067
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: to make sure that stays that way, because when it's

1068
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: not ringing, then we got a problem. So can you

1069
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: reveal to the fans what you what you're doing for

1070
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs for this week one game? Um, when when

1071
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: is this Aaron? This is airing the week after the games. Oh,

1072
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: we're good, Okay, We're clear promised. So one of the

1073
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: things that I mean, Steph always do, and it's we've

1074
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: been doing this probably the last three years. I really

1075
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: always want to do a like the theme of the cleat,

1076
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: if it's not an idea that he already has in

1077
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: his head. Sometimes he already has an idea of like

1078
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: a movie or a show or an album whatever whatever

1079
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: it is, he doesn't have an idea. I try to

1080
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: make the theme coincide with the team they're playing. So

1081
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: it used to just be on wherever they're on the road,

1082
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: Say like when they're in Detroit, I would do the

1083
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: eight mile minem cleat. You know. When they were in Detroit,

1084
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: I did the Martin Cleat. You know, you know, I'm

1085
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: trying to think of different places. When they were in Philly,

1086
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: I did the ECW Belt and it's so cool and

1087
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: some of these things, like I'm putting stuff on the

1088
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: game too, because you know, he's a he's a young dude.

1089
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: I forget that. I'm like so much older than him.

1090
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: So like, you know, he didn't know about ECW wrestling

1091
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: back then, but yeah, but he's getting props Martin like,

1092
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: oh he knows about about Yeah it is, but yeah

1093
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: there's Ray Roun's thankfully. But UCW. You gotta really you

1094
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: have to really be about wrestling to go and find that.

1095
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: But you know, he knew all about it, and he

1096
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: knows all about it now and he's like like the

1097
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: wrestling darling. You know, he doesn't know about it. But

1098
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: I remember after he wore those cleats, he was like, yo,

1099
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I need any arrest w B belt. Of course you do.

1100
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: That is so funny. But it's always fun to go

1101
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: with him because you know, he really trust my vision.

1102
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: I think the couple of times to be like are

1103
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: you sure. I remember like I did his SpongeBob cleat

1104
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: and I was like one of the first SpongeBob cleats.

1105
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: Like I know a lot of people have done the

1106
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: theme now and he's kind of very in fashion right now.

1107
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: He was in fashion. We know that. So I did

1108
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: it like to two seasons ago because he was still

1109
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: a Nike So it was two seasons ago, and I did,

1110
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: and I told him I'm gonna do SpongeBob cleats and

1111
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: luckily the yellow fell into the team color guidelines, so

1112
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: he didn't even get fine for those, which is great.

1113
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: So but he was like SpongeBob like, I'm like, dude,

1114
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: just trust me. And then he got him and he's like,

1115
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna doubt you ever again. So we've had

1116
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: a really good rapport like that, and it's just it's

1117
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: cool to have, you know, you know, he's someone who's

1118
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: who's been building his star and his reputation over the years. Absolutely.

1119
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: I remember when he was a fifth round draft pick

1120
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: and just battling to make the team was fifteen, So

1121
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable where he's. Yeah, man, I actually got I

1122
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: got his Maryland jersey. That's awesome. Um, So it's all

1123
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: good and fun doing those cool um, I guess you

1124
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: could say pop culture type clee of course. But then

1125
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: there's my cause my cleats, which started in the NFL

1126
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: a few years ago. Um, it's picked up every single

1127
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: year since the NFL started it. Yea, so now it

1128
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: spans for three weeks. Yeah, it's unbelievable. So can you

1129
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: talk about what it's like to UM create these cleats

1130
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: for players, UM for their charity of choice, UM, and

1131
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: what a responsibility that is to just these players are

1132
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: showing off what means the most of them in those

1133
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: few weeks of the NFL season, and you're the guy

1134
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: who puts them together. Yeah. Well, I mean, and now

1135
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: I always want to give Salvatories props too, because you know,

1136
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: absolutely when I first when we first started it, you know,

1137
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: it was it was still kind of in its infancy

1138
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: and guys didn't really know what it was about yet.

1139
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: So I remember I was, I was delivering cleats to

1140
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: like Jarius right, and a couple of other guys. I was.

1141
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: Jarius was the first guy Viking I ver did cleats for.

1142
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: That's that's awesome. He's a fan favorite. That's great, great

1143
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: to man, and I'm happy he's doing his thing. And Carolina,

1144
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: my mom lives in Charlotte, so you know, yeah, she'll

1145
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: go go cheer them on for me. But I'm still

1146
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: in contact with them myself. But you know, shout out

1147
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: to Jarius. But um, Yeah, So I went to delivery

1148
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: cleats and you know, while I was in their deliver

1149
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: and stuff to Rudy and a couple other guys. Um,

1150
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: they were kind of like, you should go talk to

1151
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: some of these guys and finally you see if they

1152
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: want to get down. So like I walked in and

1153
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: dropped off two pairs of cleats. I came home back

1154
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: to New York like fifteen pairs of cleats, and you know,

1155
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: some of these guys like he didn't even know what

1156
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: was going on. I had to explain. I had to

1157
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: explain what my Cause my Cleats was, you know. And

1158
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: now it's such a big thing, and it's cool because

1159
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: now so many guys are involved. And like I said,

1160
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: now now it's it can't just be a one man

1161
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: job m Kenby. But you know, I handle for my

1162
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: cause of my cleats. I would handle half the vikings

1163
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: last year, all the New York Giants and their staff,

1164
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: which is one hundred and twenty five pairs just for

1165
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: the Giants. How do you get all those done? Bro?

1166
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: It was crazy. You're working in the middle of the

1167
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: night or like yeah, and luckily I do. I have

1168
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: guys that helped me out for like prep and you know,

1169
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: like the basic color like things that you can be

1170
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: taught on YouTube. Those are what those guys do. Like

1171
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: obviously when they come to me for our work on

1172
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: they're coming from Mash for work. So I'm never gonna

1173
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: start start pulling any Warhols. Yeah, I'm not at that

1174
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: stage yet. So is that that m flavor they had

1175
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: some people, But yeah, so it's I tell these guys,

1176
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, I've learned over the years, sooner the bear

1177
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm already gonna be talking to Dennis and talking

1178
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: to everybody, like you'll get the cleats here now, so

1179
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: we can just start banging them out because I mean,

1180
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: it's Ryan, the Vikings equipment, the unsung Hero's right, he's

1181
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: the champion man. He um, he's always good. You know.

1182
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: Ever Hill just send me. I don't even know what's coming.

1183
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know, so it's great. But um, yeah,

1184
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: So with the guys, I mean, obviously, the guys have

1185
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: their charities every year, like I always know, like Harry's

1186
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: always going to be gone with Big Brothers, Big Sisters.

1187
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: I know that. You know, Dig's always going with the

1188
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: Heart Association, you know, and I know when Theland has

1189
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: his foundation all these you know, Rudy has fifteen charities now,

1190
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: he works with so many people it's great. He's definitely

1191
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: the community community Man of the Year right here, health

1192
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So um so again idea And

1193
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: obviously some of the guys I have more relationships with

1194
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: than others, but obviously you know that. But I also

1195
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm out in New York, so I'm not I can't

1196
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: just roll up to the performance center are talking, yeah,

1197
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, and building reports. So the guys that I know,

1198
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, we text them whatever. But then the other ones,

1199
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, I work with the people in the community

1200
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: relations to really get get the points across. And I'm

1201
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: hoping this year that I'll actually get a chance to

1202
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: come back out here and really talk to all the

1203
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: guys so I can get more feedback because last year,

1204
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: I did you know. I obviously had the charities and

1205
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: things for all the guys, but then there were some that,

1206
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: like the I didn't get a chance to get as

1207
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: much one on one times I would have liked to absolutely.

1208
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: So what ended up happening was I would start them

1209
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe then Salvatore, who's local, would add a

1210
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: couple more things like oh, let's add this, and I

1211
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like, you know, it's it's cool.

1212
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: For him to deal. I was like, I'd rather have it,

1213
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: so you know, we get the experience and absolutely all that.

1214
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: But um, it's awesome and it's cool that they spread

1215
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: up for three weeks now because now everyone has a

1216
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: home game because I remember the first year that was

1217
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: against Dallas and it was it was like it's on

1218
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, yep, yep. So I remember that that

1219
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: first game. It was a color rush game for when

1220
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: we had that against Dallas, and then you can get

1221
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: real crazy with some colors. Yeah, so that's always fun. Yeah,

1222
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: that's cool to here. I'm my last question for you,

1223
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna wrap this up. How many pairs of

1224
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: shoes do you have? How many Jordan's Nikes, Adidas? We

1225
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: were talking. Can you put a number on it? Because

1226
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: it all starts with your love of shoes. I grew

1227
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: up loving shoes and we clearly have that in common.

1228
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: So how many do you have? Because I'm jealous of

1229
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: the collection. I mean your your buying shoes on your phone,

1230
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: Like that's awesome to me. So how many shoes do

1231
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: you have? It's crazy because I mean, again, I'm always

1232
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: thankful because I was a kid who grew up in

1233
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: a trailer park, and I couldn't afford sneakers, so like

1234
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: I would mow lawns and shovel driveways to get my

1235
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: first fairy Jordan's and that was what that was what

1236
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: I wore, you know, in this school until the souls

1237
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: fell off, and then I was you better start shoveling, boy,

1238
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 1: because the end of the day, A hundred dollars back then,

1239
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 1: you know, that was a lot of a lot of money.

1240
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: It still is. I mean some people still can't afford

1241
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: that stuff. So I'm blessed, you know, and thankfully, you know,

1242
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: I shelled out one hundred and fifty for these purple

1243
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: and retails one seventy on sale. Yeah, I got him

1244
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: on sale. I'm finished. Line they waited ye Aaron Jordan,

1245
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: thirteens and the purple and yellow. I had to do it.

1246
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: They were from the start of the season. They were

1247
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: calling they're calling the Lakers, going, I mean, those are

1248
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: the Randy Moss call the way they call them the

1249
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: Lakers online, and I was like, that's Randy Moss. That's

1250
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: the same exact things he were. That's what I went for.

1251
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: But um, it's crazy because like you know, Bran Brands

1252
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: now you know, with with the platform I built, they

1253
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: send me shoes, So I would say eighty percent of

1254
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: the time they just send them, which is great. But

1255
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: but you know, but obviously if there's something I really want,

1256
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: you get it. Yeah, but uh, it's crazy because I'll

1257
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: give away shoes. So it's kind of the revolving door.

1258
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: But my sneaker room's really bad. Like my wife, how

1259
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: many it's it's got it, it's definitely like between probably

1260
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: a thousand and fifteen. And that's that's with purging. I mean,

1261
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not even like trying to like brag is

1262
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: you have like a whole garage for your shoes room,

1263
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: whole room. It's unbelievable, you know, and it goes from

1264
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: floor to the ceiling back levels. And the thing is

1265
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: like I won't get where we still got like a townhouse.

1266
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: So like she doesn't want to get the custom shelving

1267
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: done because it's a waste of money. She'd wait till

1268
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Speaker 1: we get her house, get your house, and she she

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Speaker 1: has a whole idea of what she wants to do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I just you know, I just

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Speaker 1: nod my head as long as she doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: kill me. For me getting more shoes than we're all

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Speaker 1: about it. That's what we all. We all battle that

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Speaker 1: every day. Compromise. Man. Well, thank you Mash for joining.

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Speaker 1: The shoes that you see on Stefan Diggs, Adam Thu

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Speaker 1: and a number of the Vikings feet are done by

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Speaker 1: this man right here. So thanks for joining the show

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Speaker 1: and we'll be on the lookout for your artwork this year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, okay, Our thanks to Kevin Seaffort for joining us,

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowitz for joining us from Packers dot Com, and

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Speaker 1: Mosh Mosh Chris's main man mosh. All righty, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. For the Minnesota Vikings podcast. We thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening and we encourage you to check out the

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Speaker 1: Vikings game on Sunday at lambeau Field against Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers, both teams one and oh.

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Speaker 1: The winner will be sitting pretty on top of the

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Speaker 1: NFC North with fourteen more games to go. Catch the

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Speaker 1: game on the Vikings Radio Network, where a voice of

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, Paul Allen, will have the call. Pete Bursage

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Speaker 1: will be in the booth, Greg Coleman, Ben Lieber on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines, and the pregame show was hosted by Mike Mussman.

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Speaker 1: You can catch that beginning at ten am. Yours truly

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Speaker 1: will be joining muss per usual in my spot right

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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes before kickoff on behalf of everyone here

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Speaker 1: at the Vikings Entertainment Network, including co producers Jay Nelson

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Speaker 1: and Chris Corso. This is Wabi signing off for now.

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Speaker 1: Have a good rest of the week and skull Vikings