1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: happy Fox Sports Saturday. This is Project ni L. Manthomy Gargano. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: He's Daniel de Bernadine. It's, of course the a D 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: from Penn Charter. Every week we do it. It's called 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Project ni L. It's your intersection with college sports ni L, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: high school and even we touch on a lot of 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: youth sports too. It's the the pathway to the pros. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, davy d. What's going on? Because how we doing? 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Brother? 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 4: My man? 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: I had you doing the links yesterday? My man, we 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: hit the lynks yesterday. How'd you do? 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 4: I was pleasantly. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: I played well, not rory, but I played well. 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: I was. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: I was happy with my performance. It was a it 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: was an outing, so you know, you shoot the best ball. 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: So I was with four guys and we shot eleven 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: unders so as a group, so I was good. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: I was. I was. I was happy. I man, I 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 4: played well. 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: I contributed. Maybe you know, I was striking the ball 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: pretty well. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: That that means you did really well because if you're 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: modest by nature, So that's good. Uh all right, Well, 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: we got plenty to go and get into because Monday 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: night was the National Championship game was uh we saw, 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: you know, Michigan out last Yukon. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: Yukon would an incredible run through. 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: This tournament, just an amazing run right like crazy, like 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: I think you and I I know I did. 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: I down played them all. It was not as good 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: as the team it was last year. 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: They're gonna go out early, you know, second round, third 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: round maybe, And all they did. 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: Was just keep winning and winning and winning and grinded 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: it out. 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: And and even though were they were over man, they 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: made it a game right up until the point where 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: they get these teams to fold. And they almost got 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Michigan to fold right after the bank three. It was 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: it was down to four, and then they were precdents 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: and it looked like they were gonna do the same 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: thing they did the game before. 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: Believable. You gotta give them their flowers. And we talked 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: about it all tournament like they obviously didn't have the talent. 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: They didn't have like the guy who can get in 49 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: the paint and create havoc. But what they did have 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: is they didn't turn the ball over. They were very 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: well coached. Some of the sets that Dan Hurley or 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: Drew Murray. You know, people say a lot it is 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Drew Murray, but Dan Hurley and his staff drew up 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: were absolutely unbelievable. I've watched them. 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: I've been geeking. 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: There was like ten or twelve sets that they ran 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: that I'm like, who, how do you come. 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: Up with this? 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: But just the motion and the discipline of the players 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: and intention to detail on it. They weren't half you know, 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: they halfway and going through it. The cuts, you know, 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: the throwback passes, cross court skips, unbelievable. They just jumped 63 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: it up. I think they went almost two games like 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: a like over, you know, a forty minute stretch without turnover. 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: They were just you know, disciplined. And credit to the 66 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: coaching staff. I mean, we have to give them their flowers. 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: They were They made a hell of a run, and 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: they made everyone play their style of basketball, including Michigan, 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: like that was the game they wanted, you know, Yukon. 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: That was the pace, the score you know, in that 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: range in the sixties. Yes, so that credit. 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: That's a Michigan game. 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Michigan team that buried Arizona, which I still and I 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: was completely wrong. 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: I mean I thought Michigan was good and they so did. 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: I I was so high on Arizona. They embarrassed them. 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: Shocked. 78 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was what they did to the 79 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: IRISONA Cards shocked. Shocked, Yeah, agreed. I mean I wasn't 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: surprised they won. I just thought it's not I mean, 81 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: this is gonna be an epicate. I couldn't wait to 82 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: watch it. 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: You gotta give brain, and you gotta give brain a 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: little bit. 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: We now did. 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: It was seven and a half, and he was saying 87 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: he got was gonna be five and a half. We 88 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: we nowed it. Me and you were in the seven 89 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: and a half. Yes, looking at the national title game. 90 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right now. But so we close, and 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: it is fascinating. Now we closed basketball this season and 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: the portal opens right now. First of all, at least 93 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: in basketball, it's done correctly, yes, all right, where the 94 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: season ends, and then you enter the portal, which is 95 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: how it should be in football, which it's not. But 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: here you go, right here you go. This is what's crazy. 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the influx of kids entering the portal. Percentage 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: of players in the portal scholarship players, this is from 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: Jeff Goodman forty nine percent, half of all college basketball 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: is in the portal. 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: What what what? 103 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Eighteen one hundred and fifty players in the portal. 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: It's nuts. 105 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 4: I mean I never seen anything like it. 106 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: And just to give the listeners some you know, data, 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: So the reason why it's close to half is because 108 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: there's about five thousand scholarship athletes, but then sixteen hundred 109 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: lose eligibility. The number coming up, you know, So like 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: we're at close to half of the eligible players right 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: now are currently in the portal, which is crazy to 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: think about. And you have a very cool story Like 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: last year and a year and maybe the last two 114 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: years when this NIOL started really picking up, I had 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: a student athlete who I thought was getting recruited lower. 116 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: But I explained to him this is the new landscape. 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: He went. 118 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: I said, look, we talked through it. I said, hey, 119 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: go to a school that loves you, and if you 120 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: perform in a year, you know, you can go pick 121 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: your destination and get to the level you think you 122 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: belong at. And so the kid, Jordan Ellerby was a 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: student athlete of mine, went down to Florida Golf Coast 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: to a great staff and Pat Chambers and his crew 125 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: and lit it up. All freshman team averaged fourteen points 126 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: a game, scored forty two in a game, like unbelievable. 127 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: Now he's a big East player. You just signed with 128 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: Butler yesterday, handsomely rewarded. But we literally talked about this 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: two years ago, like, hey, don't worry about the level 130 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: right now, go take the scholarship, go get it. Such 131 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: a wa Wayne, where you's to play? What'd you say? 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: Is that Wayne Ellerby's son? 133 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no it's not. But great kid. Uh actually 134 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: at Pennsalken. Grew up in Pennsalken, New Jersey. But phenomenal kid. 135 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: But you know, we talked about it. I said, hey, 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: he was so upset about his level of recruitment and 137 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: where he's getting recruited. I said, go to a place 138 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: where you're gonna play and you can show your talents 139 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: because I believe in you. You believe in you, like 140 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 3: you have the ability to go to this next level 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: and just this new landscape that we have to navigate, 142 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: you know. And he said, you know, you're right, Let's 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: let's figure this out. And he did a phenomenal job, 144 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: and he worked so hard. But god on a went 145 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: to a place that where he could you know, show 146 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: his talent. And now he's in the Big East and 147 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: he you know, signed with Butler and he you know, 148 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: made a lot of money and you know has a 149 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah it's a cool story, but it just very indicative 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: of what this looks like today, right these kids. So 151 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: the message of these kids are parents out there is like, hey, 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: you might not get to the level right away. It 153 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: just it's just how it is. Like we thought he 154 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: was an a ten or Big East talent and you 155 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: know it's just with the portal, you're not going to 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: get those offers. You know, he didn't have those offers. 157 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Now he's in the Big East. 158 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: It's crazy, dude, and it's crazy. Think about this for 159 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: a second. You know, you laid out the pathway, but 160 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: the one thing you step back and this is why 161 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: you you know, there's these huge it's used discussion and 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: it becomes the talk of Congress because you go to 163 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: Florida Gulf Coute. You said it go to a place 164 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: that loves you. So he does, and how did you 165 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: repay that he leaves? I know, I mean it's messed up, man. 166 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean listen, great for the kid, it's a great story, 167 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: and you want to and it's only right to play 168 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: at a competitive level that you think you're at, right, Like, 169 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: and he's proven he's at So this is he's not 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: a slight. 171 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: It is just wild. 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Like would you step back and like how many schools 173 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: you think he'll wind up going to? 174 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? Who knows? Like that's the other thing. That's the 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: part that really tears me apart. And it tears me 176 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: apart leaving Florida GoF Coast, right because they believed in 177 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: him and they gave him his opportunity. 178 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: That's why I love all about Pat. Pat's a great coach. 179 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: Great coach, and they believed in them. They gave him 180 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: the opportunity. But how are they rewarded? 181 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 4: Right? 182 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: So like but at the same time, like I don't 183 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: these are hypothetical numbers, but say he was making you know, 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: he got five or ten thousand to go to Florida 185 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: Golf Coast. Now he's getting four hundred thousand, Like how 186 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: does a kid, you know turn that away? And and 187 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: Pat and those guys understand it, and they're trying to 188 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: continue to grow their their pot to help. But like 189 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: they're a small school, right, obviously they do well in 190 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: their conference. But they don't have the luxury to spend 191 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: you know, that type of money on a whole on 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: a player, let alone their roster. Right, So it's very 193 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: difficult and that's the part that hurts me. But that's 194 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: why in our solution, they get compensated somehow, right, Like 195 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: we we we kind of did that soccer model where 196 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: we say, hey, if you're gonna take some from a 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: little major, they get compensated for it. 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: Yes, no, I mean that's. 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: What it should be, man, that's right, that's exactly what 200 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: it should be. It should be where that school that 201 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: believed in the kid, there's some sort of in it 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: reward for them because they developed them. Like there's got 203 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: to be some sort of developmental like a development fee, right, 204 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: like you know type of thing that you're paid because agree, 205 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: you're developing the kid. 206 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: What's your what's their end game? 207 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and it's they did development. Man, he 208 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: grew so much in that year there physically mentally, you know, 209 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: he had took massive leaps and then you know, now 210 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: they're back to square one, trying to figure it out, 211 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: figure it out again, find. 212 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: That next night. 213 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: Only my only ping of sadness, right, is that a 214 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: lot of these kids they're gonna they're never gonna have 215 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: like building friendships and building a community is not going 216 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: to happen for them. Like you're just gonna go like 217 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: you know, Sady K goes to three schools. Ah, you know, 218 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: the you're you're there's no lasting relationships. 219 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's kind of my pitch in high school. 220 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: I'm you're gonna be at a high school for three 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: or four years, you know, maybe longer, but most kids 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: are you know, they're doing two, you know, three years, 223 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: four years of high school. They might leave once, but 224 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: like I'm like, this is your network. This is you're 225 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: gonna fall back on if you're gonna play sports, if 226 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna chase it, because you're gonna be bouncing around 227 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: and you're not gonna have that forever group at the 228 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: college level, right, It's gonna be your your pride, and 229 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: what you're gonna be loyal to is your high school. 230 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: So that's kind of me as a high school athletic director, 231 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: that's always kind of my push and my pitch these 232 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: you know, these families are looking at our school compared 233 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: to other schools. I'm like, hey, this is your network. 234 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: This is what you're gonna fall back on, and where 235 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: we are is a great spot and we can really 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 3: set you up later in life. 237 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: It's a great pitch, it really is. It's a great pitch. 238 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: It's so important, you know, so few people know how 239 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: to navigate this world. I was having a conversation yesterday 240 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: with a guy coached baseball with We coached together, and 241 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: his son is on the team like mine, and his 242 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: son plays football too, and his son's are running back. 243 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: And I said, did you think about reclassing? And he's like, nah, 244 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: it goes no, you know. I kind of brought it 245 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: up a little bit, but he said, you know, he 246 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: didn't want to do it. And I said, well, does 247 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: is he serious about that one man? About playing? 248 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: You know? 249 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, I said, dude, if he serious 250 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: about playing, you gotta think about like you got to 251 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: think about Yeah, dude, like what's more important to you, Like, 252 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: you know, you might have to reclass, Like if you 253 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: really want it, you're gonna have to reclass, especially with football. Yeah, 254 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: And like he had no idea, damn he had. The 255 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: guys looked at me like really, and I'm like and 256 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: he knows that, you know, we're well versed in this world. 257 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: And he's like, thanks. He goes, I might have to 258 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: you know, kind of talk. You know, maybe you talk 259 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: to his son. I go, I'd be happy to. But like, listen, 260 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: the reclass is not you know, he thought, Yeah, you 261 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: don't want to be embarrassed. It's not a stigma. You're 262 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: an athlete. You're that's what you do for sure. 263 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: And what especially when we're gonna touch on this probably 264 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: in the next segment or so, but there's new rules 265 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: coming out with n C double A that kind of 266 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: encourages it a little bit more because as they're saying, 267 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: be patient. It me and you talked about it. It's 268 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: like development wise, you know, education wise, it helps right 269 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: like and it used to be the opposite. They used 270 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: to want to see you to be younger and say 271 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: we want to have you more upside. But in today's 272 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 3: landscape with the you know, average ages, we talked about 273 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: this many times. You know, Indiana's average age was twenty 274 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: three almost right. They want more mature players and to 275 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: be more impactful. And you got to try to maximize 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: this time that you have and if you're rushing through 277 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: it going too young, you know, it's really not going 278 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: to help you in the long run. And yeah, so 279 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: there's the ability to do it. A lot of state 280 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: associations are kind of making rules about it, so you 281 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: have to be cautious just to you know, fair warning 282 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: to people. You should look into it. But if your 283 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: kids on that track and you believe they they're a 284 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: scholarship athlete, it definitely is worth something to inquire about 285 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: and like figure out when their birthday is and if 286 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: it makes sense and the sport that they're playing, and 287 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: some sports it might not make sense. Right. We always 288 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: say each you know, think about it individually. I don't 289 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: want this to be a broad you know, stamp, but 290 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: depending on the sport, you should definitely look into it. 291 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: I think in today's landscape it definitely has way more 292 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: advantages than disadvantages. 293 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: Well. The other aspect though of it too is. 294 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: You got it, they're more mature in life, which I 295 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: think is really important. And then if you want any 296 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: kind of any kind of chance, any kind of shot, 297 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so hard and I'm in it, right, 298 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: I got you know, boys sixteen and thirteen right now, 299 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: the little one just turned thirteen. Like I see these 300 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: kids and we're bigger than you know, the baseball and football, 301 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: and you just see the sizes vary because you never 302 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: know when they're going to go through puberty, right, so 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: you just don't know what what and it's impossible to 304 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: tell what a kid can be. Like you can tell 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: a kid has talent, but at thirteen, you you don't know. 306 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: At sixteen, you're just starting to find out and scratch 307 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: the surface of like what kind of athlete, what kind 308 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: of player? But even that you don't you don't know, 309 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: which is why you need to elongate high school to 310 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: give them a chance to develop because you don't. 311 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, for sure, especially if you're if you're if 312 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: you if you're the kids goal and their passionate is 313 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: to play sports at a high level in college, it's 314 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: just definitely something you have to consider now in today's world. 315 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: That's that's that's the messaging, you know, because every situation 316 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: is different, but it's definitely something to inquire about. And 317 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: if your kid is, you know, really passionate and wants 318 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: to really try to take a run at this, like 319 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: we're saying, have to have the Division one spots or 320 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: in a portal. So these two guys are growing up, 321 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: Like the two national champions is at a PA school, Gannon, 322 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: and their point guard's unbelievable sophomore average like twenty four. 323 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: You know, he shot fifty percent from the field for 324 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: the season. Unbelievable player. He's going to transfer way up, 325 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: you know that dude. They're saying that guy's going to 326 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: potentially Big East day ten so D two to at 327 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: least yeah, hell of a point guard, and uh yeah, 328 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: I mean it's great for him and it. But like 329 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: also like that kid that just took a scholarship from 330 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: a high school kid, right because he that's that's even 331 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: the D two now is very you know, it's a 332 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: big pipeline, you know, a buck now very clocial. That 333 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: staff they told me they took three Division two kids 334 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 3: this year transfers you know, to play for them next year. 335 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: That like did really well, more mature, you know, they're older, 336 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: played D two basketball for a couple of years and 337 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 3: now they're coming up. 338 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: That's crazy. I mean, it's just kind of it's kind 339 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: of that whole thing. It's wild. All right, Well, we 340 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: got to take a deeper look at some of the schools, 341 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: all right, and we'll go a little bit more detail 342 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: into kind of what and is there a pathway for 343 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: a school to keep its players to not lose in 344 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: the portal? How do you do that is a big question. 345 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: You're listening to the project Nil Danny de Bernadinez Danny 346 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: Ddad from Penntrotter High School in Philadelphia. I'm Anthony Gargana 347 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: from the Fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. 348 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 349 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: the nation. 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Like, 367 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: this is good. So last night, my man, my man 368 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: got a got a new bat. His back cracked, So 369 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: you want to getting new. 370 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: Bat, got a new toy. 371 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he was all fired up, like all week long, 372 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: like you know, he's all he hits every day and 373 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: so he the uh last night comes with me and 374 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: he says, Daddy, I'm I'm pumped up for. 375 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: Tournament tomorrow. And I was like, my mad dude, Yes, 376 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: that's what I want to hear that. 377 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: Moss He's a little bit more quiet about that. 378 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and he was like I'm pumped out, like he 379 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: was like fire it up, and uh, you know it's 380 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: funny because you see them at this age. And he 381 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: said to me, he said, it was probably like ninth 382 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: nineth thirty because I'm gonna go to bed because you're 383 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: an early tournament. 384 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: He's like, I want to go to bed. 385 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: Uh you know, I want to I want to get 386 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: some make sure I'm I got good rest for the tournament. 387 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: I go, dude, I'm so proud of you that's exactly 388 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: what I want you to say. 389 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: You gotta love him up. That's good. You gotta let 390 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: him know that. That's you know how important that. 391 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 4: Is, right, you know, oh they do. You know you 392 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: hear me just going my, my, my my, that's what 393 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: they hear, right because I constantly tell it, says, you know, sleep, 394 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: get off. 395 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: The video game screens are bad, you know, blah blah blah. 396 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 2: You know, listen, I get you're gonna play video games, right, like, 397 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: but you gotta you gotta know when to shut him down. So, uh, 398 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, when he's when he regurgitates and says that, 399 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: like that's like a huge win for a parent. 400 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably you were probably hyped. You were probably 401 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: I was. 402 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: I was fired up, and I was like, all right, 403 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: and when he's fired, when he's fired up, like you know, 404 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: he's had a good start to the season, you know, 405 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: hit the ball well, and so you know, yeah, you 406 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: know that is like you just can't wait to get 407 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: to the get to the field. So like we had 408 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: a kid we played a a fifteen you team and uh, 409 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: kid was throwing. You know, kids are thrown in the eighties. 410 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: So we're thirteen you and you know, you know, it's 411 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: daunty for kids, right, like they're gonna see that. They're 412 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: not saying that to thirteen you kids throwing eighty two 413 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: eighty three, And I'm like, dude, it's listen. It doesn't 414 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: matter whether it's seventy two or sixty two. It's all 415 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: about the fastball. I said, It's all about timing your fastball. 416 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: That's it. The whole game is hit the fastball. You 417 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: gotta know when you're gonna I said, So you're gonna 418 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: look early. A lot of these kids are thrown first 419 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: pitch fastball. Try to get it over before they go 420 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: to their hooks and go to their breaking stuff. So 421 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: sit on the first pitch. Sure enough, man's first pitch 422 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: ropes it into the gap. 423 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: Let's go. 424 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: You know, like that's like that stuff like you know, 425 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: once you can start talking inside the game with them, 426 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun. Like that's that's just a 427 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: and you get it every day at work with all 428 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: the kids. 429 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: But when they see it work, when the light goes off, 430 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: it's that's the best part. You know, yeah, really really 431 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: actually worked a little bit, all right, So. 432 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: Let's let's deep look, look a deep dive now, how 433 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: do you in this day and age have no transfer portals. 434 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 4: So I'm looking and this is wild. 435 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: Seven programs have been untouched by the transfer portal since 436 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: it opened three ays ago. Arizona kon, Michigan State, Illinois, Iowa, Perdue, Virginia. 437 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really great. And these are teams that act. 438 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: You know, you can see they made a run right, 439 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: Michigan State, there was a stat they're starting lineup, they 440 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 3: were all there. The previous year they're starting five right. 441 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: Everyone they played against had three four transfers on their 442 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 3: starting five. Michigan State brought back their entire starting five 443 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: from last year. Arizona's interesting on this list, they'll be compared, 444 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: but also like they probably have half their team going 445 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: to the NBA, so that's kind of anomaly. And Michigan's 446 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: doing a great job. They signed both their backcourt. Trudeau's 447 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: coming back and so's McKinney, so they got their backcourt 448 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: coming back. So like the importance of understanding the system 449 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: and the coaching staff and the familiarity with it, it's huge. 450 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at these teams, and these 451 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: teams were all made deep runs. Take Virginia out. They 452 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: were all in the mix, and that's saying something. How 453 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: you do it. You have to spend early, you have 454 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: to invest early, and yeah, you really just got to 455 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: continue to build these relationships. But it's super rare to 456 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: do this. Obviously there's such a limited amount of teams here. 457 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: But again, they're the teams that were successful this year 458 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: and I think have been over the course of this 459 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: NIL era to continue to be there, and they kind 460 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: of had the formula here. Now, not everyone could do this. 461 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: They don't have the budget, they don't have the program. 462 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: And when you're successful, it's a lot easier to hold 463 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: on to these kids, right like, Hey, this is this 464 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: is working right, you see it. We're competitive, we're in 465 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: the mix. And I wouldn't be shocked if you know, 466 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 3: six of these teams or five of these teams are 467 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: in the Sweet sixteen next year. 468 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: Oh you can see it already. 469 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 470 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: The fact that you're gonna be that untouched going into it, yeah, 471 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: you're you're you're right, you know one of the things 472 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: that really stood out to me. And I don't know 473 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: how this is gonna work with the player movement. 474 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: But at least this season, I thought. 475 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: This was one of the best college basketball seasons in 476 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: a long time. And I and Danny I thought it 477 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: was so much better than the NBA. 478 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: Oh I'm in one hundred. It's a way better product 479 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: right now. And it was a great year. There was 480 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: a ton of parody, like obviously we felt like, you know, 481 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: obviously Michigan and we thought Arizona kind of rose to 482 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: the top. Maybe Duke was in the mix there, but 483 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 3: there was so much parody across it. There was so 484 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: much movement all season from you know three to twenty five, 485 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: the movement and you know, any given night, these guys 486 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: could beat each other and going to run. And you 487 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: know we saw, you know, we said the Cinderellas are 488 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: kind of dead, but the seven Seeds A seeds are 489 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: still There's there's so much parody there that they can 490 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: still really make some noise. It was, it was a 491 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: great season. I was. I was so happy with it. 492 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: You know, you just saw the level of ball and 493 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: I I again, it's it's just, you know, it makes 494 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: sense because you when you're when you're gonna stay in 495 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: school and you got you got kids that are older, 496 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: they're just better, they're just you know, when you had 497 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: the want to done world you got kids coming out, 498 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: they're just ta bake pies, don't load a game right 499 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: like a tremendous athlete, tremendous upside, all that stuff. But 500 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: the development, it doesn't happen in the NBA, like it 501 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: doesn't college. Like you don't have Izzo's developing players in 502 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: the at the NBA level. 503 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: No, for sure, it's just not happening like that. 504 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: Like, Wow, for every Cooper Flag, you're better off staying 505 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: in college, get paid until you're twenty one to twenty two. 506 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and on, you know, on this G league thing, 507 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: there's another one. This guy he actually turned down multiple 508 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: NBA contracts this year because he kind of figured he 509 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: was going to go back to college. So he was 510 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: a young freshman a couple of years ago, did three 511 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: years in the G League. He's now twenty, going to 512 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: be twenty one. Dank Pate, he just signed it with Providence. 513 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: But he averaged, you know, eighteen points a game in 514 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: the G League. But they said he turned down multiple 515 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: contracts this year because he knew he would go back 516 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: to college after the season and have a better chance 517 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: of making real money. So he's a top thirty recruit 518 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: in a twenty twenty three class. 519 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 520 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he opted to the G League, you know, 521 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: ig Night League, so he didn't really you know, play 522 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: much in college and then now he's you know, he 523 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: dominated this year in the G League, turned down multiple 524 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: NBA two way contracts or ten day contracts so he 525 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: could stay eligible. And now he just signed with Providence 526 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 3: over maybe yesterday. So again like that even. 527 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: Is now he'll get what how many how many years 528 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: does he have two? 529 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: He is three years eligibility, he's got three years. He 530 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: played one, so he's technically been out of high school 531 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: for three years, but he only has he only played 532 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: one in college, so he three he's twenty three. No, 533 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: he's twenty one, so he'll be twenty one. Ok, he's 534 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: on the younger side, but pivoting on that. And we 535 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: have NCAA exploring you know, rule change again, which is 536 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: something similar to what we were talking about very simil 537 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: more to what we were trying to push out a 538 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago when we dove in and created 539 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: our own you know, our own rules and governance. So 540 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: the ANC double A is looking into changing some of 541 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: the rules right for the upcoming season. Yahoo reported it 542 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: they're looking into it where basically it's an age based standard. 543 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: Athletes have five years of eligibility from their nineteenth birthday 544 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: or high school graduation, so you just have five years 545 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: of finishers, no waivers, there's no red shirts. You got 546 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: five years from nineteen or high school. So again talking 547 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: to what you were saying, that reclass year is huge 548 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: because now you get you get an extra year of 549 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: growth until you get to the college playing field. So 550 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: being nineteen is a huge advantage. 551 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, monster, So it is just like what we're saying, 552 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: what we came up with, it's just like it did 553 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: we have. 554 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: I think it was me saying six. 555 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: Years, right, we said six to play four. They're saying 556 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: you can play five, but you only have five years 557 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: to play five. They're not limiting you to four years. 558 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 3: We were saying you have six to play four with 559 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: red shirts and injury red shirts. If you're going up, 560 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: maybe you sip about they're saying five to play five. 561 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: But there's the will get rid of this. If this 562 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: goes through, there's no more red shirting. There's no more waivers, 563 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: And I think that's smart because the waivers. 564 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 4: Can it be can it be challenged in court? Not offense? 565 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: Double A adapts it. I don't think it can. 566 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: Because that it's it's the governing body. 567 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: Yes, so I mean listen, I like. 568 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: It because honestly, you know, let's face it, right, if 569 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: you have this five year period, now, the only thing 570 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: I will say is if you play Juco shouldn't count. 571 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: That's but what I'm saying, they don't talk about that, 572 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: and I'm curious to dig in, does Juco or PREP 573 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: your account because they're saying post high school graduation or 574 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: post nineteen, so you can't be older than twenty four 575 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: five from nineteen and it's saying high school. Was it 576 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: named high school graduation? So I think it will push 577 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: a huge thing on reclassifying because they didn't say anything 578 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: about the Prepper or Juco, which looked like it was 579 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: going to be a part of this, but now I 580 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: don't think it is. I think at your clock starts 581 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: when you stop when you finish high school. 582 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's not fair. Yeah, that's not fair. Like 583 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: you got if you do two Juco. 584 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: Then you only technically have three years left when you 585 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 3: get through. 586 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 587 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: And the point is is like with here's the rub, 588 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: you got colleges that are going to the portal. So 589 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: if colleges are going to the portal, that means high 590 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: school kids are not getting looked at. That means they 591 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: got to go somewhere at some point it get into 592 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: the system. 593 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree. 594 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: So you're losing your losing, so JEWCO should not count. 595 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: That would be my argument. 596 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 597 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: What I think it will do though is D three 598 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: and D two will get a big boost. And who's 599 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: going there be if they take away this juco because 600 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: people will be more forced to go to D three 601 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: right away or D two right away to get into 602 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: the system. I'm opposed to the JUCO or prep year. 603 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: So it's interesting. It looks like it's catching steam. It 604 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: looks like they're reviewing it. It looks like there's some steam 605 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: behind it. But yeah, right now, the current rules says 606 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: athletes are granted four playing seasons over five calendar years. 607 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: But with this they would regain eligibility throughout the retchirt 608 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: or way every year. So technically you can play five years, 609 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: which is different. It just starting their clock. 610 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: I would just I would just met my only amended. 611 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: I would only amend and say, you know, I'm cool 612 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: with the five, but JUKO doesn't count, and you could 613 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: be up to twenty five. 614 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we were saying six, which would write put 615 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: that in and then we would that would kind of 616 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: protect the jewcos as well, because if you did two there, 617 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: you still have four to go. 618 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I think it's only fair 619 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 4: to do that. 620 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: All right, we have to a quick to We'll come 621 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: back and go around the Nil world, around the prep world, 622 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: the whole thing as we cover it right here Project 623 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: Nil on Fox. Ah, welcome back, Hey, real quick. Very 624 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: excited this morning because our producer bri who left Danny 625 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: d is back helping out. 626 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: Let's go. 627 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: So we love Brianna Bree Bree Hello, oh she stepped 628 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: out just as we're giving her the flowers. She stepped out, 629 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: all right, Uh, we love her and we love Muddy Mark, 630 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: who produces week. 631 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: Was a text today from Uddy Mark. 632 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: We get what was the quote? 633 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: What did you say, Money Mark? It was the it 634 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: was the Luca Brozi one. What did you say? 635 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: You gotta go? Why don't you go over there and 636 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 4: check see what figured out? 637 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 638 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: Just go check to see what they got out of 639 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: their fingernails. 640 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, he was getting not happy, you know. 641 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 3: And you just want to see what's going on. Oh, 642 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 3: that's a legendary line right there. 643 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: It is the don said Luca over there, that Luca 644 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 2: was unhappy. But what happened was Luca got whacked because 645 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: of it. 646 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he sent him over to Barzini or yeah, it 647 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: was Barzini and it was uh, what's his name, the Turk? 648 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Turk. They stabbed his hand and took him out. Yes, 649 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 4: and then I said you had the cigarette. He ate 650 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 4: the cigarette, and then. 651 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 5: I told him about him. 652 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 4: You know. The last thing I remember, we were laughing. 653 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 4: That's all I remember. We were laughing. That's Senator Geary. 654 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, no, good, Senator Geary. No, it's a 655 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: tough night, as tough as the girl. That's awful. 656 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: Oh man, no gun, Senator Gary, you're out. That's my 657 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: offer for the Uh, here's my all. You can have 658 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: it now. My offer is nothing. 659 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 4: And uh you're gonna I'm so silly. It's just it's 660 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: just to instigate him, to get him going in the morning. 661 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: It's great, mar it works. You got me fired up. 662 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: They you're like automatically turns my brain on at four 663 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. 664 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 4: Here, it's exactly right. It's great. 665 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: Hey, you miss any of today's show you'll want to 666 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: catch catch the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever 667 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: you get the podcasts. Right after the show, today's podcast 668 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: will be posted. Be sure to file the podcast right 669 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 2: to five stars. You can even provide a review against 670 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports ready to where you get your podcasts, 671 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: file the feed and you'll find. 672 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 4: Today's show post right after we get off the air. 673 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: All right, this is a fascinating thing, brother, This is 674 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: fascinatey uh. According to Jeff Goodman in the field of 675 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: sixty eight has polled ten plus high major head coaches, 676 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: assistants and gms for the salaries of the elite portal players. 677 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: So this is fascinating you as an a d let 678 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: me know what you think, all right? Letting on them here, 679 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: big men four to five million, sheeeesh, your point guards 680 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: three to four million, and you're winning players two and 681 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 2: a half to three million. 682 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: That's wild. So if you get if you get a 683 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: top big and a top point guard in the portal, 684 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: you just dropped it eight nine million dollars on two players. Wow. 685 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you see how I mean? Look at Michigan, right, yeah, 686 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: we look at its bigs. It was a big. Bigs matter, man. 687 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 3: Big, especially in college basketball. Yeah, the resurgence is there 688 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: with the zone being able to you know, just have 689 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 3: that rent protection has been huge. Michigan's done it. But yeah, 690 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 3: I mean these teams front lines are huge. They're growing 691 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 3: seven foot six ten seven to two. Like they're putting 692 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 3: out two three bigs at once. It's pretty wild. But yeah, 693 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean that's a ton of money. I mean, I 694 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 3: guess that's the that's the formula right now. I mean 695 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: Michigan is such a good job with it. They would 696 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: go to double bigs. I mean they played all three 697 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: guys that they got into Portal to Mara and you 698 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 3: know Elaxel and the other guy, Johnson. All three of 699 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: them were centers on their team the previous year and 700 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: they brought all three in. 701 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 4: I mean, just having that size is was was huge. 702 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 4: I mean you saw it, you see you you could 703 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 4: see what it does. 704 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: For sure. 705 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 2: But you know, it funny about the game because the 706 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: game goes in cycles, right like guards, guards, guards, and 707 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: I still think it's a guards tournament and guards matter, 708 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 2: and you're still going to to the threes and you 709 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: need you death really need like see your or like 710 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: you know, really good guard play that can handle pressure, right, 711 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: Like that's it. That's a calm everything down. But you 712 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 2: know what it was turning into when when you didn't 713 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: have uh, when when it was one of Done's it 714 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: was more of a guard's league. 715 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 4: And now big men back in vogue for sure. 716 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 3: There's definitely a resurgence there, especially with the versatile bigs. 717 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: But traditional bigs were in this tournament, right, I mean, 718 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 3: Mara is a traditional big. Yeah, dominates the post, but 719 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 3: a lot of these teams are building up around size 720 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: and then you know, trying to get that general. And 721 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: I saw an interview with Dusty May and he said, 722 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 3: like when they got your Dough, it was easy to 723 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: recruit the big guys once they got that point guard 724 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: first in the portal last year, I make a show. 725 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: You made you show this guy, and yeah, they're trying 726 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 3: to run it back. They they already signed your Dough, 727 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: so happy for him, and uh yeah, we'll see. I mean, 728 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: Michigan's early number one in the country next year already. 729 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: But I mean crazy amounts of money. So if that's 730 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 3: the number, I mean, you got to think these rosters 731 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 3: are probably pushing twenty million, Like we saw Kentucky was 732 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: around twenty last year. 733 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the eighteen I think they were 734 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 2: eighteen and the next team was like eight. 735 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: No, it was like eighteen, then thirteen, like Duke was 736 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: like eleven or twelve, and there's a couple that were 737 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: like thirteen. But yeah, I mean, especially with these coaches 738 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: also in their new contracts, they they're negotiating how much 739 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: they can spend. Well Erope stayed and. 740 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point this, yeah, I mean you could 741 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: easily see it go up to twenty. 742 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 4: Five easy, right for sure. 743 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's they ain't going down, that's for sure. 744 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: All Right, listen, have a great week, all right. I 745 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 2: know you gotta fill the games today, so uh, do 746 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: your a D work. Everybody, have a great, great day. 747 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: Fellas are coming up next