1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, we recently talked 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: about prescription drugs on the podcast and really over prescribing. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Some of you reached out with similar experiences, and some 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: of you reached out to share your experience with antidepressants 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: and how that saved your life. And I think both 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: things can be true. And we've certainly seen people who 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: have been overcome with extreme grief and the help of 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: antidepressants got them through that. But I still ask the question, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: our doctors too quick to prescribe? And I say this 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: especially with children who are still growing and their brains 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: are still developing. Also, I got to ask, do doctors 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: really feel like they are giving their patients the full 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: story when they put them on these potent meds. I mean, 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: we know that there are these salespeople that are in 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: every single day, this is the latest and greatest, this 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: is the newest thing. But how often are you really 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: pouring over these are the side effects that could happen. 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: My guest today, he says he didn't have all the facts, 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: and the prescription drug he was put on ended the 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: life he had built and destroyed the relationships he had, 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: and he is now on a mission to fix this 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: and hold people accountable, because he says there's a silent 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: universe of other people suffering just like him. I want 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: to welcome Bob Schwartz, the executive director of A Better Bob, 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: which he founded after he suffered an acute psychosis after 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: he took the psychotropic drug Concerta. Also with him is 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Michelle Sarkisian, a retired corporate executive who's now become a 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: major advocate for Bob and his mission. Welcome both of you, 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for being on. 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: So I actually saw your I saw the trailer for 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: your documentary and it was right. I think you sent 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: this to you must have seen that we were talking 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: about prescriptions, because he sent me a note and I 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: was like, man, this is the kind of thing that 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I feel like there, I agree with you. I think 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: there are so many people out there that would say 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: I had a really bad experience and no one will listen. 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: So can you just kind of give us an overview 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of the documentary and what happened in your life that 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: led you to form A Better Bob. 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: Thanks again, Tutor for having us today. The story starts 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: back twenty years ago from March twenty fourth, which is 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: now National Adverse Drug Event Awareness Day. 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: But you know, young. 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: Forty years old individual, father of two, highly, very successful 47 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: at a major telecommunications company, and I was suffering from 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: a chronic back pain. But when I went in to 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: see my doctor about the back pain, I told him, I, 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 3: you know, I was, I was, My game was off. 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: I was a type A individual and I was not 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: focusing too well at work. I found out later it 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: was probably due from the chronic back pain. But you 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: know when he when he questioned me on that, I 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: you know, he said, we might be able to help 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: you with some ADHD medicine, and he prescribed me a 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: drug called Concerto. 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: He asked me how much I weighed, and. 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: I gave him my weight and he started me at 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: fifty four milligrams of a drug again, a drug called Concerto. 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: Took the drug for five days and life was never 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: the same. I suffered an acute psychosis and after that 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: my life smiled downhill from there. Within two years, I was, 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: my marriage had had was ended from the side effects 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: and just the damage, the neurological damage that this drug caused. 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: And life was a struggle. And in between that I 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: was trying to always trying to let people know at 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: real time that this this drug had harmed me and 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: injured me and or impaired me, and that I was struggling. 70 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: I was struggling. I was struggling. 71 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: And it was. 72 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: More or less, you know, you know, maybe I'm not 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: trying hard enough. 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 6: Maybe you know this drug that is not known for 75 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 6: doing this, and it became a seventeen year battle in 76 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 6: fighting this thing conventionally. 77 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: How did you know that it was the drug? I mean, 78 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: you went into the doctor and you said, I'm struggling 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: to concentrate at the time, Just for me to clarify, 80 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: at the time, you had back pain. He didn't ask 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: you about the back pain, Is that right? He just said, Okay, 82 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: if you're having trouble concentrating, we're going to immediately give 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: you an ADHD drug to get you back on track concentrating. 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: Forget all the other things that could be medically going 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: on with you, let's try this. And that was the 86 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: wrong medication for you, uh you want? 87 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: He did. 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: He did prescribe me a drug for my back pain, 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: the muscle relaxer for my back pain. And it was 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: the last ten minutes of the appointment where I was 91 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: just kind of like, you know how they always like, 92 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: what else can I do for you? 93 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 7: And uh, you know, hey, I'm I'm you know. That's 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 7: when I you know, opened up to him, Hey, I'm 95 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 7: off my game. I'm finding myself struggling to focus at 96 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 7: work and and that's when he suggested this could be ADHD. 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: How did you find out that the prescription was three 98 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: times the recommended dose for that medication. 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was brought up to. 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: Me by the the investigator from the Georgia Medical Board. 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: She said that, you know, you were you were seriously overdosed, 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: you know. And so when when I got the Georgia 103 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: Medical Board involved, I thought this was gonna be going 104 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: in the right direction. And then two years later, they 105 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: you know, they this was two years later after my 106 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: you know, when I decided to open up the case, 107 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: and they came back after a four month investigation said that. 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: The doctor had done nothing wrong. It was and this 109 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: matter is closed. 110 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about what you immediately felt 111 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: because you were only on this for five days. And 112 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about this because we've seen this in a 113 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: lot of kids lately, where kids are being put on 114 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: this medication and then they have suicidal or homicidal thoughts 115 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: or just paranoia. And my concern is that if an 116 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: adult had this happen, an adult can come and say, look, 117 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm off, something's not right, and after five days have 118 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: permittent effects from this. What is happening to children who 119 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: don't understand that that's off. Tell us a little bit 120 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: about what you experienced in those five days. And since. 121 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: Right first off trouble sleeping, it was you know, you know, 122 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: I was not hungry, which a lot of people. 123 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Do that because it's a diet. Then and then they 124 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: can lose weight and the doctor's like, oh, great side effect, 125 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: you're not going to eat, and then you know it 126 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: ruins your life. 127 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, But with the psychosis just brought many, many, 128 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: many many problems. The gas it first started, the gastro 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: was was terrible. What I did was I damaged my 130 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: central nervous system that pretty much controls everything in your body, 131 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: all your your movements, your thoughts, so basically that that 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: was neurologically damaged. And it just became a nightmare as 133 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: far as far as problems, thought disorder, faulty thinking, uh, 134 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: you know, cognitively, could not could not, could not focus, 135 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: so for the main intent for what the drug was 136 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: supposed to do, I was. I was forgetting everything I 137 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: was I left. Here's the Here's the one that boggles 138 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: of mind is that I lost my car keys for 139 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: three weeks and uh, you know, I had to basically 140 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: ordered new keys and everything. I found them in the 141 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: silverware drawing mm hmm. 142 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: And I mean, I've heard these same things. We've you know, 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: I've had people in my family that have experienced these 144 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: same things, forgetting to pick up kids, losing things, all 145 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff that suddenly normal everyday activities. And the 146 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: doctor keeps saying, oh, no that I don't know if 147 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you had this experience, but we've had the experience of 148 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: oh no, this is normal. This is not a side 149 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: effect of the drug. By the way, the drug can't 150 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: possibly do this. It can't. This can't happen, right. 151 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: So I'm at the top of my game professionally, and 152 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: after five days this happens, and I'm like, I'm trying 153 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: to figure out what's going on with my body, what's 154 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: going on with the dangers, what's going on in my mind. 155 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't want to really open up and 156 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: tell anybody about what was going on in my mind 157 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: for the fear that that you know what, that they 158 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: they might you know, I might be held accountable for 159 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: what I say. I don't know, It's just it was. 160 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: It was a very it was very, very scary moment in. 161 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Life because you get very paranoid. 162 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: It was dysfunctional state of paranoia. You know, I'm an analogist, 163 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: so I can only explain things through analogies that that 164 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 3: people can understand. And uh, one of the one of 165 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: the best ones I've ever been able to come up 166 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: on is you know, I went from Michael Coleon of 167 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: The Godfather Defredo over h. 168 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Scare. And I think that something that people aren't talking about, 169 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: and Michelle, you and I were talking about this for 170 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: a second. Something that people weren't talking about is the 171 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: reality that this is happening across the country and nobody 172 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: is willing to come out and say it, and there's 173 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: no accountability for these drug companies. And I will just 174 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: say that I know for a fact that some of 175 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: these stimulants have people in a psychosis state. And so 176 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: we've heard about adderall psychosis, We've heard about marijuana psychosis, 177 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: and we have you know, these are legal drugs that 178 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: either are being prescribed or now you can purchase marijuana 179 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: in many states, and people are saying, oh, this is 180 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: safe because it's legal or I have a prescription for it. 181 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: But it doesn't. It's not always the case that it 182 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: is safe. So Michelle, you've you've been fighting back against this. 183 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: What have you seen when it comes to saying, well, 184 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: wait a minute, why are we okay with psychosis in 185 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: a certain percentage of patience, Well. 186 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this toutor and thank you so much 187 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: for even covering this topic. People just don't know what 188 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: they don't know. And IT has approved drugs that have 189 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: become household names. Think about xanax, zoloft, adderall Riddlin effects, 190 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: her at a, van rel, Bututrin, Lexapro, Paxel, Prozac. That's 191 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: just a few of the many, many, many FDA approved 192 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: for children drugs. Now, couple that with children now in 193 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: schools based on surveys and observation, no blood test, surveys 194 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: and observation, they have child is depressed where they could 195 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: have just been a little sad because their hamster died, 196 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: or that they are anxiety ridden, which they might just 197 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: be a nervous test taker or they are ADHD, which 198 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: when I was younger, I'm sixty eight. When I was younger, 199 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: we'd call it daydreaming, or we'd call it fidgeting, or 200 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: we'd call it hyperactivity. And what did we do to 201 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: counter some of that? We had recess twice a day. 202 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 203 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Over the weekend, my daughter was 204 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: in a school play and it was at one of 205 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the public schools, and we go to the private school. 206 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: They were having the play at the auditorium at the 207 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: public school. So I had never seen this before, but 208 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: I walked into the bathroom and there was this sign 209 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: and it said all those things you just said. Are 210 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: you feeling anxious? Have you had something scary happen to you? 211 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Do other kids make you feel bad? Like all these 212 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: different things that absolutely every child in high school experiences. 213 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: There's no question in my mind that every kid in 214 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: high school has experienced. Well, do you want resources for this? 215 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: And they had four different phone numbers and the treatments. 216 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: The top of the list was medications. And it literally 217 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: was in the high school bathroom saying the treatments, medications, 218 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: And then there were a couple other things like talking 219 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: to someone and food you eat or something, but the 220 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: top was medications. I thought, well, that is crazy that 221 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: a kid can call. But the flip side of that 222 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: is also in Michigan. I was just telling you before 223 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: we started recording. In Michigan, you no longer have access 224 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: to your child's medical records once they turn twelve. In 225 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: this state of Michigan, they passed a law which I 226 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: can't believe. People aren't just going bananas over. But once 227 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: your child turns twelve, they are required to sit down 228 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: and have an appointment with their doctor, and the doctor 229 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: has to tell them. And this is how it went 230 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: from my oldest. The doctor said, listen, your mom no 231 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: longer has control of your medical records. So you can 232 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: sign this paper and allow her to become your medical proxy. 233 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: And then she can continue to make appointments for you 234 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: and be involved in your appointments and see some of 235 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: your test results. But if at any point you want 236 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: mom to be cut out of your medical decisions, we 237 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: will rip this paper up for you. You just say, I 238 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: don't want mom to know we're having this conversation. Have 239 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: no power in this case. So my daughter says, yeah, 240 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to sign it for my mom. Well, then 241 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: my middle daughter turns twelve, she gets a blood test 242 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, I go into her my chart 243 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: online and it says no records to show, and they say, well, sorry, 244 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: she has not signed this document yet and unless you 245 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: make an appointment to sit down with doctor. Doctor explains 246 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: it to her, They have a conversation, and she understands 247 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: that you can be cut out of her medical records 248 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: at any time. Then you can't see her chart. I mean, 249 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: think about this. Now, we have all of these, as 250 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 1: you pointed out, Michelle, we have all of these clinics 251 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: that are going onto elementary school campuses, middle school, high 252 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: school at the same time as once they turn twelve 253 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: in middle school, mom and dad have no access to 254 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: what's going on, and they can go into the school 255 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: clinic and have anything in these drugs or vaccines or 256 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: whatever they want. They can just push into my child system, 257 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: and then I end up in a situation where I 258 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: have no idea how to solve the problem, or I 259 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: can't it's too late. 260 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: No, it's it's just tragic. And think about the culture 261 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: that we've changed, you know, we have created a culture 262 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: where kids can't even think critically anymore. They can't make 263 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: decisions about even hardship that they might be facing if 264 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: they don't get a participation trophy. They're upset, you know. 265 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we've created a system where they need safe spaces. 266 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: You know, everything triggers them. 267 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Well is it just the system though? But is it 268 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: the system in addition to being on these meds that 269 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: then trigger them, Because if you're on these meds, I 270 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: believe that in many cases you cannot think through situations 271 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: rationally like this. And we know that some of these medications, 272 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: these these pharmaceutical companies have now come out and said, okay, 273 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: we have a disclaimer you may have thoughts of suicide 274 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: or harming someone else. And so how does that help 275 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: these students get through crises? 276 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't, And informed consent has lost all meal meaning. 277 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: So Bob and I have spoken with a fellow who's 278 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: very involved with the veterans organizations and he has made 279 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: his way through Washington, d C. Demanding signature based informed 280 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: consent because our suicide rates off the charts with veterans 281 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: today because they're given all these drugs that I just mentioned, 282 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: and then some and it's not just being on the drug, 283 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: it's withdrawing from the drug. 284 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: So yese in mind this letter. 285 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: When you talk to first of all, your teachers telling 286 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: you you might be ADHD because you know you're having 287 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: trouble focusing. You kept watching the butterfly or whatever, and 288 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: so they say that child needs is ADHD. Of course 289 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: the uh, the pediatrician puts them on riddle in or 290 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: adderall because that's sort of the protocol. There is no 291 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: informed consent because if there was informed consent, any parent 292 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: who heard that their child has a whatever percent chance 293 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: of homicidal thoughts, suicidal thoughts, right, and all the plethora 294 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: of other things that Bob went through as an adult, 295 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: and think about it in an eight year old that's 296 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, a third of his weight. All those things 297 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: are not discussed. And on top of that, what's not 298 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: discussed is the off ramp. You know, they never talk 299 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: about how you get off these drugs. What's your on them? 300 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: As soon as you exhibit something else, because think about it, 301 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: you're you're on adderall for a bit, and a lot 302 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: of kids are taking that, so they can you know, 303 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: take their sat better or whatever. They're on that for 304 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: a bit then all of a sudden they're just feeling 305 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: like a zombie. You know, they've lost their energy or 306 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: what have you. They go back to the doctor. The 307 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: doctor doesn't eliminate the adderall. They put you on the zoloft. Oh, 308 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: they'll put you on this. 309 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And then they add yes, I mean you 310 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: you end up with a tick from the adderall, let 311 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: me add this in. That'll stop the tick and keep 312 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: you on the auterall. But just so you know, there's 313 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: side effects to that too. You can have heart problems, 314 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: you get this, you get that, And then all of 315 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: a sudden, the prescriptions just kind of pyramid up and 316 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: pile on top of you. 317 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: Right, and let me just add to that. I was 318 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: with somebody on Tuesday who she works a lot in 319 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: foster care. She has two foster children, and she has 320 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: become an advocate for foster children. And she said, you know, 321 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: when you age out at the foster system, the average 322 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: number of meds that they're on is five. Good grief, 323 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: got a foster? Now, why is that tutor? Because the 324 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: state controls. Yes, so you've got the state behavioral health 325 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: commissions that are making those decisions. Now, think about where 326 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: the state Behavioral Health Commission has made those decisions and 327 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: try to correlate that with some of the mass shootings 328 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: that have happened out there. Nicholas Cruz was on the 329 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: very same drug that Bob was on, fifty four milligrams 330 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: of concertra at eight years old. He's the Parkland shooter. 331 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: Now he's on a cocktail of drugs. By the time 332 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: he did his shooting. The guy here in Atlanta was 333 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: withdrawing from adavan. If you look at Adam Lanza who 334 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: was at the Sandy Hook thing, you know, and what 335 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: they try to do. Pharma swoops in and tries to 336 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: make sure that the focus is on the gun. You know, 337 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: the focus is on. 338 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: The of course, But that's what we've been saying for 339 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: so many years. 340 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: Now. 341 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: What if it's the person. What if there's something there 342 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: And everybody's been like, well, you can't solve mental health. 343 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: What if the problem with mental health is the medications 344 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: that these kids are on so young. 345 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: It's it's the impairment of the mind. That's where we 346 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: that's where we need to take this argument. You know, 347 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: it's no different than drunk driving forty years ago. People 348 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: get behind the wheel of a car after drinking alcohol 349 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: and then they would they would end up killing people 350 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: in accidents. They didn't take away the automobile or they 351 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: went after the alcohol industry. This is the same situation WHEREA, I. 352 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: Think it's so normalized, and I think so few people 353 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: are willing to talk about this, and certainly no parent 354 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: wants to come out and say, oh, I did this 355 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: and it was a huge mistake. And then I think 356 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: there's also a certain amount of a shame for someone 357 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: who has had some like what's happened to you, Bob 358 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: happened and not want to talk about it. And b 359 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: some of these folks refuse to see that it's the 360 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: drug that's causing all of these problems, and they stay 361 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: on the drug. The doctor keeps telling them the drug 362 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: is fine, the drug is not causing these problems. You 363 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: need the drug, stay on the drug. And so I 364 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: think that there is a lack of awareness that this 365 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: is what's happening, to the point where just last week 366 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: I was told that a teacher in the classroom went 367 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: to the parents and said, and the administration backed the 368 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: teacher up, if you do not put your child on medication, 369 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: we can't keep them in class. They're just such a 370 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: busy body, always standing up and all of this, and 371 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: that we need them to be drugged and sitting quietly. 372 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: And I don't blame the teacher. I think it's because 373 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: there's no knowledge of what this is really doing to kids. 374 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: Well, and they've taken away the outlet for them to 375 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: use up that energy. Especially. 376 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: Yes, no PE, You're right. 377 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: There's no recess. There's no PE. There's no electives. You know, 378 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: I've gotten rid of shop and so many of the electives. 379 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: But you know, you said you have to ask your question, 380 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: ask the question how did we get here? How did 381 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: we get here? You know, this is an epidemic in America, 382 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: not elsewhere. It's an epidemic. So think about this. There 383 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: are only two countries in the world that allow prescription 384 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: advertising on TV New Zealand and America. All right, So 385 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: is Anderson Cooper going to bite the hand that feeds him? 386 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: No? No, absolutely not. I mean we had a doctor 387 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: on here last week who was he had testified in 388 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: the Columbine case. He had testified in the girl who 389 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: had texted her boyfriend until he committed suicide, and he 390 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: was saying this same stuff, and he's like, look, I 391 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: used to go on OPRAH. I used to talk on 392 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: ABC and NBC until they could advertise, and then I 393 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: was banned. So as soon as the money started coming in. 394 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: And it's all about the money, I mean, we're not 395 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: going to sugarcoat it here. Money rules the world, and money, 396 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: in many cases is more important to people than other 397 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: people's health. 398 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Well, you're exactly right, and it's not you. It's not 399 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: just the media. Academia is the same. 400 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: Now. 401 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: I've been involved in an IVY League school board for 402 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: a while in one of their research groups, and they 403 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: get more money from Farma than they get from tuition. 404 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: The IVY Leagues get more money from Farma than they 405 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: get from So you couple that with the media, and 406 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: then the plethora of money that goes into the school systems, 407 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: you know, the public school system. I mean, if you 408 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: don't vaccinate your kid, if the kids aren't fully vaccinated, 409 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: they can't go to public school. 410 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: How many industries have the kind of money and influence 411 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: that pharma does. I mean your point to the universities. 412 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: Any research university is looking to pharma to get the grant, 413 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: to get the money to be the next the next 414 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: group that brings the next drug to them, and they 415 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: are glad to put money here and there and there 416 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: to make sure that that next drug that's going to 417 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: be the drug that everybody's on, is going to be 418 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: with their label on it. 419 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So and then you take it a 420 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: step further. Three hundred and seventy three million dollars was 421 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: spent on Congress by the pharma lobby in twenty twenty two. 422 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: So you know, think about the money is so huge. 423 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 2: Who's I want to see the representatives and senators. I 424 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: want to see those who don't take any farm of money. 425 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: I want to see the people who aren't compromised, who 426 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: don't have a conflict of interest, and that's who I 427 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: want to make our decisions. Now. I just looked over 428 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: and I'm in Georgia. I just looked over some of 429 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: the mental health bills that I mean, they're always floating. 430 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: We killed two years, but they keep reservicing like a 431 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: bad penny. And I look at what they're proposing now 432 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: and they're saying, well, we'll have a committee of twenty 433 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: six people who will be involved in the protocols on 434 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: mental health. Well, who is going to be pharma? It's 435 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: going to be the behavior. Well, it's going to be 436 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: all the people who are compromised, you know, try to 437 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: find an uncompromised doctor. That's why I love people like 438 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: McCullough and Merrick and Corey and all those folks that 439 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: have all lost all lost their jobs when they spoke about, 440 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, the COVID situations. But that's a whole other issue. 441 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 2: But on this I will tell you and Bob will 442 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: tell you too. We've gotten more knowledge in the last 443 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: couple of years because now we're suspicious of things. We've 444 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 2: learned not to trust the age of the FDA. The 445 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: CDC is, CDC's in my backyard here in Atlanta, you know. 446 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: And you listen to these people who say words like 447 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: safe and effective and yes, I have no proof of that. 448 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: So you look at those types of things and you say, well, 449 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, now when I go into the doctor and 450 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: they say you need your eighteenth booster or whatever it is, 451 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: you know. And by the way, everybody I know who 452 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: got the JAB is sick. Everybody everybody's gotten it. So 453 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: you look at that and you start to scroll back 454 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: and say, should I have ever gotten the shingles vaccine? 455 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: Should I have ever taken that. Now there is a 456 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: website of case you're interested to it called medstopper dot 457 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: com And if you go to medstop. We just learned 458 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: about this, Bob and I did go to medstopper dot 459 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: com and you can plug in anything that you're on, 460 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 2: a stat and whatever you're on, and it'll tell you 461 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: how to taper off and what the are of tapering off. 462 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: See, I mean I've had these. I've had these same 463 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: I think you're right. After COVID everybody started to go, Wow, 464 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: what am I on? And do I need to be 465 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: on it? And what have they asked me to take 466 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: on all of these years? And how many shots have 467 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: I taken? And do I need to be But I 468 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: think that's a good thing that we suddenly have a 469 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: lot of people questioning. It's funny to me because I 470 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: often tell the story of the reason I know people 471 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: are very leery of going outside of what their doctor 472 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: says is because I'm a breast cancer survivor. When I 473 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: had breast cancer, I went to the local hospital here 474 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: and they had a response that I didn't like, and 475 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I don't know if that seems 476 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: a little old fashioned to me? I'm going to go 477 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: down to MD Anderson and my family members were like, 478 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: what are you talking about. You've been diagnosed with cancer, 479 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Like you have to do this immediately, and I was like, 480 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: I want to know from someone else what I need 481 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: to do. And my meeting with M. D Anderson was okay, 482 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: still not exactly what I wanted. In the beauty of 483 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: the United States is that you can go someplace else, 484 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: and so I ended up at Johns Hopkins had these 485 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: amazing surgeons. We went through exactly what would happen. I 486 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: am cancer free today. It wasn't. Waiting those few weeks 487 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: to get to the right doctor was the right thing. 488 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: And I think that so oftentimes when we go to 489 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: the doctor, we're like, it's urgent. I have to have 490 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: the answer right now. And so instead of talking to 491 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: someone else and saying, what happens if I go on concerta? 492 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: Are there any side effects that I don't know about? 493 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: You go to the first guy. He puts you on it, 494 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: and he's motivated to put you on it, because let's 495 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: remember that if you were on a medication like this, 496 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: you not only have to have an appointment every month 497 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: with that doctor, but probably a psychologist as well, so 498 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: they're bringing and in revenue. The minute they get you 499 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: on that drug, you're a permanent patient. 500 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, if you want to know about the system, watch 501 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson's episode on Ozempic. Now, this is one of 502 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: the real blessings. Whether you're a Tucker fan or not 503 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. He's had some amazing guests, and when 504 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: he had Kelly means On talking about the whole system 505 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: and the ozempic situation and how much money's in it 506 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: and how compromised everybody is, the conflicts of interest and 507 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: so forth, it's an eye opener. And if you took 508 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: the time to watch the series Dopsic on Netflix or 509 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: whatever it was on, and you realize that the Sackler 510 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: family what they got away with and per new pharmaceutical 511 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 2: got away with for decades. It's saying that it was 512 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: not addictive. Oxycotton was not addictive, And of course they 513 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: went to the most vulnerable community out there, the Appalachian 514 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: coal mine area, and everybody got addicted and communities were ruined. 515 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: But you know, I would just say, I mean, you're 516 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: probably asking Bob could probably answer this better than me, 517 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: what do you do to fix it? To talks about 518 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: accountability and changing systems and so forth. What we've got 519 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: to do is first admit that the system is broken. 520 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: It's broken. Bob did everything right. Now. This is a 521 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 2: guy who was making high six figures, working for a fortune, 522 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: fifty top of his game, and everything everything fell apart 523 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: five days into a drug. 524 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 525 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. You have a documentary, so tell 526 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: us how to find the documentary. So people who are 527 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: questioning am I dealing with this? Do I have a 528 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: family member dealing with this? They can watch what happened? 529 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: How do they find that? 530 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, simply just go to www. Risk dot com. That's 531 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: r xisks dot com. You can see the ninety second 532 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: trailer there and it leads you right to the thirty 533 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: minute documentary. It's a quick watch. I want to tell 534 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: you a ward out in New York for best documentary 535 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: under forty minutes. And it lays it out and then 536 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: it also goes into how we're going to fix the 537 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: problem where we're bringing up the awareness, caution and the accountability, 538 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: and the accountability is going to be key. As we're 539 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: going through the awareness portion right now, I'm trying to 540 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: get the message out to the mama bears, the football dads, 541 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: and doting grandparents that they need to become aware of 542 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: these drugs and the dangers of these drugs. So it's 543 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: really crimes against humanity, and that will lead to the 544 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: caution where we really need to get the law enforcement 545 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: involved to really understand because when you have a mass shooting, 546 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: you have a situation where they don't understand how this 547 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: is happening, especially on the mental illness side of the house, 548 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: and then they bring in behavior health specialists to consult 549 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: with them on how to handle it, and they're paid 550 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: by big farm to handle that situation. We also need 551 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: to have the FBI, you know, understanding the situation, in 552 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: our legislation, understanding the situation, and then accountability. I don't 553 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: think anything is going to be fixed until a big 554 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: pharma suffers from massive lawsuits, kind of like opioids in addiction. 555 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: And that's what's that's what this model's very similar to. 556 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, let's be I mean, let's be honest. You have 557 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: folks out there who are saying we should be able 558 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: to sue the gun manufacturer if it's I mean, that 559 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: to me is insane, the gun was a tool, something 560 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: caused this. Why shouldn't you be able to sue the 561 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical company if they know And they do know, that's 562 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: the part that I think people don't understand. They do 563 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: know that this causes suicidal and homicidal tendencies. They understand this. 564 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: In fact, some of these drugs are altered a little 565 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: bit to use in the military to get people to 566 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: go out and commit mass murder, essentially because it's a war. 567 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked before we started recording about October seventh, 568 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: those guys that came into Israel were high on whatever 569 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: they had given them to force them to become killing machines. 570 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Human nature is not to cut people apart set them 571 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: on fire. The things that happen, we say those people 572 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: were animals. They were forced into that because they were 573 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: drugs in their system. But people don't want to talk 574 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: about the fact that these same drugs are similar drugs 575 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: are being given to our children and we're seeing those results. 576 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: But nobody's going, well, what was the toxicology report? I mean, 577 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: we wanted the toxicology report for the Nashville shooter. Never 578 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: got it. We seemed to not be able to get 579 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: these toxicology reports, and yet we continually say, how could 580 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: another school shooting have happened? How could another mass shooting 581 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: have happened? Why can't we go to this one source 582 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: and say, what did the blood test show? 583 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: Right? 584 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: Well, to the toxicity reports only show the legal drugs, 585 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: I mean the illegal drugs that were in their system, 586 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: not the prescription drugs. 587 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: That's right, That's what they did in Nashville, Audrey Hale. 588 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: They claimed they did a toxicology report, but all they showed, 589 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: all they shared with the public was that she wasn't 590 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: on illegal drugs like fentanyl. They don't talk about the 591 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: legal drugs. And you know, she was transstudent, and she 592 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: very likely was on a hormone blocker. Those are drugs 593 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: for life too, by the way, and they do and 594 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, and you mentioned that these these these military 595 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: personnel will take these I mean, Bob talks a lot 596 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: about the fact that Hitler put a lot of the 597 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: soldiers on these drugs to have them, you know, commit 598 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: the most heinous types of attacks against their enemy that 599 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: they could possibly do. But I will also tell you, 600 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: Bob and I watched a Tennessee Health and Welfare Committee 601 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: meeting not that long ago. A few weeks ago, one 602 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: of the senators there who chairs it, brought in a 603 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: couple of experts and one of them did a lot 604 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: of research on mass shootings and has identified that over 605 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: seven hundred mass shootings were related back to these black 606 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: box drugs. And he also said, well, they're quick to 607 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: come in and talk about the gun. He said, you know, 608 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: the funny thing is they never talk about the violence 609 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: that's happening with knives and cars and other means. You know, 610 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: it's always about the gun. And there are countless cases 611 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: where people have exhibited violence under the influence of these drugs, 612 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: black box drugs, Like the twelve year old daughter who 613 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: killed her brother, killed her nine year old brother, was 614 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: stabbing and she was out of her mind with these 615 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: drugs and just she'll know her life is over her life. 616 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: We just had that story not a few weeks ago 617 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: where the woman stabbed her boyfriend something like eighty times 618 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, it was marijuana. So there 619 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: was nothing we could do about it because she had 620 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: this marijuana psychosis. And we know this is happening. I mean, 621 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: that's the thing when our legislator is going to come 622 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: out and say, wait a minute. We can't legalize marijuana 623 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: because we know it's causing peace people to do crazy things. 624 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: We can't allow pharmaceutical companies to get away with drugs 625 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: that they know are causing these massive side effects that 626 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: are not only destroying the life of the person who 627 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: takes it, but oftentimes all of the people around them. 628 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean, people's lives are changed forever. Your family's life 629 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: was changed forever. 630 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: Bomb. 631 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, it's it's unspeakable 632 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 3: hardships and broken dreams, and it's just it's it's and 633 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 3: it's it's and it's for generations to come, you know, 634 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: as far as there's an example of uh, Lindsey Clancy 635 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: up up in Boston, you know, the delivery nurse that 636 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: that had to withdrawal from antidepressant medication and ended up 637 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 3: killing all three of her children and jumping out the 638 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: window and breaking her back, and now she's on trial 639 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: for murder. It's just, uh, it's again, just it's just 640 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: so devastating, horrific. 641 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to ask, at that point, should someone 642 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: else be on trial for murder? 643 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly the point, Tudor, And I'm glad you 644 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: brought it up because one of the things that's gonna 645 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: that's happening already and we'll continue to expand, is the 646 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: stories are flooding in. They're flooding in through Bob's Risks website. 647 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: They're flooding in through Woody Matters, which is Kim whitsex 648 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: or does her husband comitted suicide five days into zoloft 649 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: and he wasn't suicidal? She won her lawsuit, by the way, 650 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: And they're coming in through the Drug Adverse Event Awareness 651 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: Day that's coming out March twenty fourth. And as these 652 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: stories keep coming in, you know, we're just we are 653 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: seeking the attorney or attorneys that will take this on 654 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: from a mass toward class action standpoint. We're at that point. 655 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: We know we have an epidemic. We know that there's 656 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: a public health emergency as a result of this. We 657 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 2: know people you know, we're telling kids six, seven, eight 658 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: years old something's wrong with them. 659 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Yep, yes, I know. And it is devastating and once 660 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: they're on, it changes their little world and you never 661 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: get them back. 662 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: No, you never get them back, and they think they 663 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 2: have to be on a drug for life, and as 664 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 2: soon as they have another symptom of something. They're told 665 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: they're even worse than they thought, take another drug. So 666 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: it just keeps compounding. And these foster kids are really 667 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: in a tough spot. But we've got whistleblowers, we've got activists, 668 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: we've got people who've suffered harm like and God bless Bob. 669 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Bob wants nothing from this but to stop 670 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: the epidemic, to stop this from happening to children all 671 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: over the place. He can't get those twenty years back, 672 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: you know, and he's made the best he can of 673 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: his life. But he can get time back, but he 674 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: can stop at least help parents understand that you've got 675 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: to demand informed consent. You've got to explore other options. 676 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 2: You do have alternatives if they are going to take 677 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: the drug, demand that they're monitored throughout and demand an 678 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: off ramp. 679 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, and I appreciate what Bob is doing now because 680 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: I do think that God has a plan through crisis 681 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: and he uses people in different ways. And you have 682 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: a great voice here. I think that the I've watched 683 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: the trailer and planning to watch the documentary this week. 684 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: It's it's risks, It's very clever. Our xisks dot Com 685 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: go there and watch the documentary. Anybody who has these questions, 686 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to report, is there a site? Do 687 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: they just report there? How do they come to you 688 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: and say, Hey, I've had the same problem. I need help. 689 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: I'd like representation. 690 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: That's going to be coming on March twenty fourth, we 691 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: have the third year of inception. And what's interesting, it's 692 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: it's March twenty fourth is the twentieth anniversary of my 693 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: adverse event. So I think God has created a national 694 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: God moment. 695 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 5: It happened to me so that, you know, you go 696 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 5: get coincidence or God just working miracles there, and he's 697 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 5: you know, I think if people are gonna be able 698 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 5: to go on this site and tell their story and 699 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 5: get the tool kids out there and find out if 700 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 5: we can make this a public health emergency, just like 701 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 5: the cancer and and heart heart disease, we can we 702 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 5: can declare this day UH an emergency for the for 703 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 5: the for the American people. 704 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: I agree. Thank you both so much for being here. Bob, 705 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: you are so brave. I mean, honestly, I think that 706 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: anybody out there who's listening right now is going this 707 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: takes a lot of guts to come out there and say, look, 708 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: I I lost this, I lost this section of my life, 709 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: and I'm fighting for you so you don't lose it 710 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: as well. Bob Schwartz, Michelle Sarkisian, thank you so much 711 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: for being with me today. 712 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: Thank you good thank you, gut speed. 713 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you all for joining us on the 714 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast. 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