1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ronan the number one most annoying thing that people seem 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: to do. If there is one number one, it's they 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: always tell you one last thing after the car is done. Hey, 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: your car's all done well. By the way, I forgot 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: to tell you about the wipers, the Car Doctor. It's 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: just something to point out that heat is what kills 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: trans fluid and that's what brings the trans to a 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: shorter life when it's not serviced. Welcome to the radio 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: home of ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. 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Get out to 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: the Facebook page ron and any in the Car Doctor. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: And if you're a podcast to get out too well 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: going through Car Doctor Show dot com. Click on podcast 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: they'll take you over the spreaker, tune in or wherever 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: you're going, and please click subscribe. We appreciate it. Let's 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: kick the doors wide open, and um let's get over 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: and talk to Dean in Long Island. Eighty seven Monte Carlo. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Eighty seven Monte Carlo. Good gosh, so great car, great 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: body style that year. So what's going on Dean? What 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: can I help you with? Uh? Yeah, I have an 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: eighty seven monkey SS and um like, I totally did 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: a full restoration on the car. Um I have everything 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: done the way I like it because almost pretty much 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: like showroom. But um, I have the windows. I can't 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: get them to sit right. There's like five adjustments on 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: those doors, but I played around with them. I've actually 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: had experts, supposedly like glass guys come over a couple 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of old time as you said, they were very familiar 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: with the g body style, and I have them try 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: to make adjustments on it and they couldn't even get 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: it straight. I also had it brought to a restoration 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: place and he was pretty good. He came close, but 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: he couldn't get the seal on the window I owned 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: the car back when I was in my early twenties. 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I bought a brand new to eighty seven SS, so 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I know at one point those windows did seal, but 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: with the new gasket. I guess when the car was 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: brand new, it had a lip that over lap the window, 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: which made it make a nice seal. But now with 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: all the weather strip and they're coming close with it, 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: but it's just more like a flush mouth with lip 51 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: hanging over the window. So you really can't get a 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: good seal. But like I said, even those adjustment saw, 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, I just can't get the seal. And you 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: and you changed all the rubber seals, right, Yes they did, 55 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: and and they're they're they're an aftermarket company rubber seal. 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: They're not. Think one was like, um, steal something steel 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: rubber steal rubber. I think it was. I gotta tell you, 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a fan of steel rubber. 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: I purchased a few pieces of steel rubber for the 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: hot rod. You know, I did a fifty five Chevy 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: and a couple of years back, and I purchased a 62 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: few pieces for steel. And I don't get what all 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: the fuss is. I don't see everybody raves about them. 64 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: I after the third piece that didn't fit and didn't work, 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: I threw it out and just went looking elsewhere. It 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: was just garbage. Uh it was close, but no cigar. 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: And that sort of sounds like what you're going through. Um. 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I ended up I ended up finding I was working 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: with or I worked with a local fifty five Chevy 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: parts seller, Mario and Donna out of Garfield, New Jersey, 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: and all fifty five. And you know, they knew what 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: worked and what didn't work, and they got me. And 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: they weren't keen on steel either. Um, so you know 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: that could be part of the problem. You know, it's 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: those adjustments are there, I know, the adjustments you're talking about. 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: They set the height, the tilt and the angle of 77 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: the window right, so as it comes up other My 78 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: other theory was, you know, maybe somebody replaced the glass 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: at one point and it doesn't have the right curve 80 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: to it. Or I thought maybe the hinges for the 81 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: for the George jam itself, maybe those are but everything 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: straight right, I mean, you know, and right. And the 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: basis point here is with the window down, with the 84 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: window open, how does the door close? Does the door 85 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: line up on the on the you know, on on 86 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the pins, does it you know, do the hinges look 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: right or the gaps on the body panels are they 88 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: all correct? And all the lines that go around the 89 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: door look perfect? Um, the car has striping on, and 90 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: the stripings all even throughout the whole car. The seam 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: underneath the door where the body's a frame kind of 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: attaches to. You can see that's a straight line to 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: the door. Between the fender is is a nice line. 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: It's not too wide, it's not too thin. Then the 95 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: one on the opposite hand side way the handle is 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: that seems to be like a nice even line on it. 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: It's not too close and not too far away. But 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: when you close the door when the windows clo open, 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: the door seems to close fine. But then when you 100 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: close it when the windows up, it either catches or 101 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: you gotta give it a second or a third kind 102 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: of close on that to get a little off in it. 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I think you're gonna have to look 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: for a different rubber. The rubber. It sounds like the 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: rubber is too thin at the top. And now they've 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: got the window over extended that it's too high against 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: the roof line and now it can't tuck under the 108 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: roof line as you close it. I would, you know, 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: I would. I would jump out on eBay and whatever 110 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: it costs, just by n os body seals you know 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: GM stuff and and I think that's the only thing 112 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: you twice on end they wanted like eight hundred dollars 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: just for two window fields, and now you know why 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: they'll fit. So you know, I wouldn't mind paying the 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: money if I knew it was gonna work. I kind 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: of think I need somebody who really knows G Body 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: that knows how to set those windows. Well, let's go, 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: let's do this. There's so many forums out there, all right, 119 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: there's you know, I'm I have a first generation monty seventies, 120 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: seventy two. I have a seventy two. But there I 121 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: know there's enough forums out there. Or call you know, 122 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Original Parts Group, call O B O p G I 123 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: and talk to them, talk to their tech support and 124 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: ask them how do your body seals stack up? Because 125 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: I believe they make them for I believe they make 126 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: them for the G Body two. Or they're enough G 127 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: Body builders out there that you know you can go 128 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: that route. You can do the research, but just be prepared. 129 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I think the ultimate answer is unless somebody's got a 130 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: better aftermarket body seal. I think what you're gonna find 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: is you're gonna end up having to get the n 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: OS stuff because there's just some things in the aftermarket 133 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: that I've been very disappointed with that they just don't 134 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: manufacture as well. So do that. If you have any 135 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: other problems, UM, you know, by all means, give me 136 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: a call back when you get the car done, send 137 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: us a picture. I'd love to see it. Let's get 138 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: over and talk to Joe in Maine seventy three Javelin 139 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: and some questions about reviving this car. Joe, Welcome to 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir. How can I help an? Um? So, 141 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I bought this UH seventy three jav last fall and 142 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: they had been sitting in a garage in Texas for 143 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: probably fifteen plus years. I got it home and I'm 144 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: going through the car end to end and trying to 145 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: so you out if I'm missing anything on what I 146 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: ought to be checking and replacing. I haven't really driven 147 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: the car yet except across the yard. What what? What? 148 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: What part of Texas? Joe? Uh, good question, nor Yeah, 149 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: that's and that's why I'm asking. That's the answer to 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the question. Things got almost zero rust on it. I 151 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: haven't broken a bolt on it yet, Isn't it amazing? 152 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: I took the Monty apart. I've got a seventy two 153 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Monty that was in Minard, Texas, which is three miles 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: northwest in the middle of nowhere of Houston, and I 155 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: just took the front end apart this week, and everything 156 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: came apart, ball joint studs, uh, you know, tyrods. Everything 157 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: just came apart. I mean, I got a lot of 158 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: Texas dust on the floor of the shop this week, 159 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: which the amount of dust and sand they have in 160 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: Texas is kind of staggering. But um yeah, it's just 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's refreshing to buy a car like that. 162 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: I listen, I think you're doing it right. I I'll 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: tell you what I did with the Monty. I'm going 164 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: through the brakes, I'm going through the front end. I'm 165 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: just cleaning everything up to my to my liking. There's 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: not a whole lot more. You know, the engine runs 167 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: by itself. I changed the oil. I'm going through the 168 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: cooling system, putting belts and hoses on it, and I'm 169 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: gonna go through the fuel system and rebuild the carbon. 170 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive the car. There's not much else really 171 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: it needs to do. You know, I did all the 172 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: drive line fluids um it automatic or stick, so the 173 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: only other thing I would tell you. And I caught 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: this by dumb luck. I serviced the trans on the Monty, 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: and you know, you would never think of this because 176 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: here in New Jersey we don't see a lot of 177 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: this problem. But I went to put fluid in the 178 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: trans and I couldn't get fluid to go down the funnel, 179 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: and it kind of went glub glub, and I went, oh, 180 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: the vents clogged right the vent on the trans and 181 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: sure enough I lifted it up. There was a pack 182 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: of dust and mud over the vent tube on the 183 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: on the side of you know, I picked my hole 184 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: through and all of a sudden the trans blue or 185 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: right in. So you know, thank god I didn't drive 186 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: it like that, because I would have put so much 187 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: pressure in the trans like I either would have pushed 188 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: the fluid out the diptic tube or something else catastrophic. 189 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: I think you've just got to drive it. I think 190 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: you've just gotta, you know, get it to the point 191 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: where you're satisfied you've changed all the fluid, You've looked 192 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: through the breaks, you've looked through the front end. It's safe, 193 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: pull the seats out and make sure there's no animals 194 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: with holes homes under there that they're gonna get annoyed 195 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: at you when you start driving around and come up 196 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: on your lap while you're driving, and uh, you know, 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: keep it close to home and and see where it goes. 198 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's what I call a rolling restoration. 199 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: You don't know how long it's gonna take, and you 200 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: don't know when it's done for a while, until you 201 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: get some mileage under it and you get comfortable with 202 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: the car. I mean, it's as simple as that. Don't 203 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't take too much apart if it's an original, 204 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: low mileage car. I really think, unless you're gonna do 205 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: an all out one restoration, most of the parts on 206 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: the car probably better from fifty years ago than the 207 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: art where we're gonna go by today. And that's the truth. 208 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing restoration. So alright, man, the 209 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: tie is on. It was so dry routed that one 210 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: of them just sitting. Yeah, and I and I get 211 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: that got and you've got to change tires. It's it's 212 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, the Monte Carlo had an from a from 213 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: an X s O gas station had an Atlas tire 214 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: on it. You know, I mean, welcome back in the day. 215 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: It was Atlas tires. I remember that, you know that 216 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: was the big deal. Um. But yeah, it's you know, 217 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: cars they were so simple, you know. It's yeah, and 218 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: that's that's that'll be the one that you'll you'll survive 219 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: arm agatting with and you'll be the guy driving. So 220 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: but yeah, do that. Joe, send us some pictures. Let's 221 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: see what this thing looks like. All right, I'd love 222 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: to see him. Man, You take care, you have a 223 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: good weekend and enjoy the car. I'm Ron aading the 224 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We're back right after this need advice on 225 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: how to maintain that classic g t O. Ron is 226 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: the guy eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 227 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: Here's Ron, welcome back. Let's get over and talk to 228 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: John and Marylyn. John, you're at the Car Doctor. What's cooking? Hi? Ron? 229 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: How are you nic? It's good? I have a two 230 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: thousand six four D f one fifty. It's a five four. 231 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm having electronics problems on my door module. You know 232 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: that does the windows, the mirrors, the locks, everything. It's 233 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: just it's just nothing's working. The only way I can 234 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: get in the truck is either with the key or 235 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: the FIB. And once I'm in the truck, no windows, 236 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: no nothing. I can use the fib to open the doors, 237 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: but I can't use the pounds. So this is good. 238 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: It's a broken vehicle. It's it's it's everything's broken already 239 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: at this point. It's give me a broken car, will 240 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: fix it as long as it's broken. So what what 241 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: what you've got to understand is you know this is 242 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: not this is not old school. This is believe it 243 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: or not. The first thing I would do in a 244 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: vehicle like this is scanning for fold codes, all right. 245 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: I would I would look to see does the can 246 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: you talk to the body module? Can you talk to 247 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: the instrument panel cluster? They run the majority of what 248 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: you're telling me isn't working. The locks, the windows, the mirrors, 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: They run a lot of that through the instrument panel 250 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: on that car. Um that is that that is the 251 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: central point. And I would I would this is where 252 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: you hear me talk about doing a central or a 253 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: complete module scan. You know, this is where we hook 254 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: up the scan tool and you know what what modules have, 255 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: what fault codes in it? And you know that'll give 256 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: us a direction. Now, the second thing we can do, 257 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: all right, using a scan tool. Give you an example. 258 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: And I don't mean it O B D two scan tool. 259 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean we want to be specific your make model. 260 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: The second thing we can do is go into either 261 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: in the body module side or in the I P 262 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: C side. I am almost certain you can go and 263 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: look and it'll have a comment there about driver's door 264 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: switch on, all passenger door switch on off, and so on. 265 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: You can actually test the switches through the scan tool. 266 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Does it see if you push it down? Does it 267 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: see on? Does it see off? Um? And that will 268 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: at least give you a direction at the point where 269 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: you know, if you push down on one and you 270 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: don't get response, but you do on the other, then 271 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: we gotta hit a wiring diagram. Do we have broke 272 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: We can still have broken wires in the door jam. 273 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: That's that's not an impossibility, all right. But what I 274 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: what I sort of think is gonna happen is I 275 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: think you're gonna find out that you've probably got an 276 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: instrument panel cluster fall, probably a B thirteen sixty, which 277 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: would not be uncommon. And the diagnosis is gonna pour 278 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: towards point towards a cluster. So a couple of things 279 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: to do here before we run out and buy a 280 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: new truck. All right, let's let's let's let's get it somewhere. 281 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: Let's do a scan of the vehicle. What codes are 282 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: being reported? Any codes, deal with them appropriately? No codes. 283 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Now we can treat it like an old school wiring problem. 284 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Do we have power and ground where we're supposed to? 285 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: Last point? All right, not uncommon for these vehicles to 286 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: have problems with the underhood fuse box for the circuit 287 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: being powered. The circuits you're having problems with where the 288 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: circuits will get burned spots on the contact tabs, all right, 289 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: And and and I have seen this more than more 290 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: than a few times where if you start to identify 291 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: the fuses and don't do it yet, don't do it 292 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: as a first step. You want to scan for codes first. Um, 293 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: if it comes down to where you think you've got 294 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: a power supply issue, think about even though the fuses 295 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: are good. Is there any carbon tracking or is there 296 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: any corrosion on any of the fuse contacts and the 297 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: underhood fuse box could that be causing the problem? Also, 298 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: so they marked, are they marked for their Well, they'll 299 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: be a legend on the fuse box cover and you'll 300 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: need service information to correlate the legend to what circuit 301 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: they're actually protecting. Nothing simple, Nothing simple, John. So you 302 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: know what's funny. Somebody put I don't know if it 303 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: came with the truck I bought it used, but it 304 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: had a remote start that died. About a year later, 305 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: the stereo died and now this is all dying, so 306 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: it might it might be related. And you know what 307 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: when you take it in for serve is make sure 308 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you make sure you if you're not gonna do this yourself, 309 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: make sure you uh, you know, make sure you mentioned 310 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: that to him. So, hey, John, stand on the phone. 311 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna send you out a copy of O B 312 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: D O B D two diagnostics made easy by Stephen 313 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: cook Um. Whether you work on the car, whether you 314 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: want to just get more knowledge about how it operates, 315 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: it's a great read. It breaks down O B D 316 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: two diagnostics into simpler form and some of the test 317 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: procedures and if nothing else, it'll tell you if your 318 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: mechanics telling you the right things that he's testing, um, 319 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, and give you some more knowledge about the system. 320 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Knowledge is power and that's what the Car Doctor is 321 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: all about. Stay on the phone while Tom gets your 322 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: information and we'll get that out to you this week. 323 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, I appreciate it. Let's get over 324 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: and talk to J Geo Metro and some transmission issues. Jay. 325 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. How can I help heybody? 326 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: Thanks to take from my call. Well, yeah, I have 327 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: a nine three Geo Metro convertible. Um it runs Fine's 328 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: gotta like over a hundred thousand miles on it. You know, 329 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: there's Shazooki engines that they run forever, right, But it's 330 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: the automatic transmission and the problem that I'm having. You know, 331 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: I can be driving this thing for a week straight 332 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: and not have any problem with them. Then all of 333 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: a sudden will be going down the road and it's 334 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: like the transmission will slip and I have no power whatsoever. 335 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: I have to pull over the side of the road 336 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: A lot of times when I shut it off and 337 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: then started back up again. Uh, it will start working fine, 338 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: but you never know when this darn thing is gonna 339 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: break down on yourself. To speaking, I looked at some 340 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: forms and stuff with GEO Metrew's one of the things 341 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: they said something about a some type of soul annoid 342 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: that's under the dash that could be causing something like that. Um, 343 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to cheap out this thing else 344 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't have to replace the whole transmission, but uh, 345 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: I just you know, but you might have some ideas well. 346 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: And you know the fact is that it may not 347 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: just be the transmission. It maybe And you know when 348 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: I see things that reset per se such that shutting 349 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: them off and starting it up again, you know, cause 350 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: of the car to run right? What is it? A 351 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: one three and one? Oh? Which? Which which is jay? Which? One? A? 352 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: One three? You know, when I see things like that, 353 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: I start to get suspicious about wiring and grounds and 354 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: making sure that everything is good, clean and tight, and 355 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: you know it's it's where it's supposed to be. Um. 356 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: One of the things I also try to point out, 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, in part of any diagnosis, let's talk about 358 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: what's bad or sorry, let's talk about what's good, what 359 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: can you prove bad? What can you monitor or what 360 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: could your mechanic you know, get you to monitor, um, 361 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, to tell you what's good when the problem happens. 362 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: Can you get the problem to happen when it's at 363 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: your mechanic or is it is at that random that 364 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: it just it's it's that it's that random. But another 365 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: another thing that that it will do a lot of 366 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: times You'll be you know, you'll you'll take off and 367 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: it won't kick in the passing year, I don't have 368 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: to take it, and I'll put it in like the 369 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: drive drive one or drive two or something like that, 370 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: and then shift to get in advance. And I'm do 371 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: this this week. Jay, listen to me, because the clock 372 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: is gonna grab us. Do this this week and then 373 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: call me back if you can it to happen this week. 374 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: Tell me if you think the cars in third gear, 375 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: if the cars in third gear, if you think it 376 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: happens again, can you manually shift it down to first 377 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: and get the car to operate normally? If you manually 378 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: shift it, that's your homework. Do that. Call me back. 379 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: I'm Ronalandi in the Car Doctor coming up next. Tim Richmond, 380 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: first responder. We're gonna talk about cars and accidents and 381 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: how you get saved. Stay tuned. We're back right after this. 382 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go. You've 383 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 384 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: Ronaldandy in the car Doctor five five five zero zero zero. 385 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: Now back to n Hey, we are back. You know, 386 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: electric cars, accidents, the things that happened when things don't 387 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: go right. Um. We recently ran across an article Tim Richmond. 388 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: He is a he's a first responder, he has in 389 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: doing it, or is just a retired as a firefighter 390 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: at twenty seven year veteran up in Bridgeport, Connecticut, and 391 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Tim are a really great article about electric cars and 392 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: his thoughts and what he's seen, and we thought it 393 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: would be wonderful to get him up here share it 394 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: with us, and we thank them for taking the time. Tim, 395 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the card officer. Hey, Ron, how are you? Um? 396 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Good article, brother, you know you're talking about that was 397 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: one I didn't write that, Unfortunately, I wish I did. 398 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: I just happened to see it and I popped it 399 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: up on Facebook for a lot of my friends who 400 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: are still career firefighters, and uh, we're always trying to 401 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: find out what's going on. UM. I will say that Tesla, 402 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: which was the subject of the the post, uh, is 403 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: pretty good for first responders. They have some pretty good 404 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: manuals online available. Right now, Technologically speaking, we're trying to 405 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: keep up with everything. It's not easy. We do have 406 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: iPads and all our apparatus now in all our command vehicles, 407 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: so it's fairly easy to go online and look something 408 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: up if we're stumped. But sometimes that doesn't work either, 409 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: especially since we deal with cars that are not necessarily 410 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: in pristine shape. Well yeah, at the point where you 411 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: know the cars, you know, wrapped in half or impacted 412 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: or somebody has trapped and you know, timoty much pretty much, 413 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of compromise, let's put it that way. Well, yeah, 414 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you know, you walk up to something 415 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: that's stuffed up against the tree and you've got to 416 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to get somebody out of it, 417 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, I mean seconds count, right, You're trying to 418 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: look up on your iPad what do we do in 419 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: this scenario or that scenario or exactly exactly and unfortunately, uh, 420 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: this is not stuff that most of us can keep 421 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: in our heads. Uh. There's things change year to year 422 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: as you know. Uh. I have a son who's a 423 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, a certified mechanic, and I wouldn't want his 424 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: tool bill just for the special tools he has to 425 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: buy for every model here. Well, and I think things, 426 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: I think things change on on a monthly basis. I 427 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: think I think what worked in January may not work 428 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: in February. In your scenario, you guys are dealing with 429 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: real life and death exactly, you got right. Uh, you 430 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: know the problem And the thing is it's our lives 431 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: that are involved too, not just the public that we serve. H. 432 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: These cars are very very dangerous the first responders. If 433 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing, if you don't know 434 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: where to cut with a hearst tool, Uh, if you 435 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: don't know, um, where the high voltage wire is on 436 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: an electric car. Um. Some of the most dangerous things 437 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: now are with electric cars. You don't know that they're 438 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: on and running, and with these remote keys. Even if 439 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: they get a victim out, if he's less than so 440 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: many feet away, that car is still going to run. 441 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: And so the first thing we do now is is 442 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: chalk the vehicle to keep it from moving and running 443 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: over one of us. Well, and I guess, I guess 444 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: part of the problem too becomes if the person doesn't 445 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: have the key on them, it's inside the car that 446 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: just had the accident, or in a pocketbook or in 447 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: a knapsack, and you know you need that to control 448 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: the car. What do you do. It's not like the 449 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: old days where you'd woke up to an accident vehicle 450 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: and the key was in the ignition exactly exactly. I mean, 451 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of different things that are involved. UH. 452 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: Normally you try to reach in through a window, turn 453 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: the key off, make sure the vehicles in park, if 454 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: if it if you can possibly get the gear shift 455 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: into park whatever, That's what we used to do in 456 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: the old days. Then we'd cut the battery, UH, wait 457 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: for any UH airbag passitors to discharge UH, and then 458 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: take it from there. Nowadays it's completely different. UM, if 459 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to have p D give us a 460 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: heads up as to what type of vehicle it is. 461 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: While we're responding, UH, we can hit the iPad and 462 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: find out what the manufacturer recommends. And again, even even 463 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: with the same manufacturer, model year to model year, everything 464 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: is different, is you know. You know you had a 465 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: long enough career tom, so you know you started out 466 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: it was it was all gas engines, right, you were 467 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: dealing with cass engines. And you look, you look back 468 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: at that now and say, boy, those were the good 469 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: old days. Right. You know, a good simple gasoline engine fire, 470 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: yeah right, Um, you know something as simple as that, 471 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you can under and fifty gallons of water 472 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: and the fire went out, right, You could deal properly applied, right, 473 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: you could deal with that, right, and then and then 474 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: and then you know, Toyota and Honda they had their 475 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: their their rechargeables and you know the previous versions in 476 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: the Honda Insight, and those are probably the cars that 477 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: first turned everybody's head that it was a combination of 478 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: the internal combustion engine and battery, right, and that probably 479 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: looks pretty good right now, all for sure? For sure. 480 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: One of the other problems that people don't even think 481 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: about is the fuels, even with an internal combustion engine, 482 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: the addition of alcohols to the fuels um alcohol. If 483 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: if somebody is if you're using a class beef foam, 484 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: let's say, to fight the fire, so you have a 485 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: full gas tank that has been uh compromised in a 486 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: high speed crash. You've got gasoline all over the road. Whatever, 487 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: first thing we have to do is try to you know, 488 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: keep those vapors from igniting. Okay, And there are a 489 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of ignition sources on a on an army, everything 490 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: from from short circuiting wires to hot catalytic converters to 491 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: you name it. So you know, possibly we might consider 492 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: putting down a protective blanket of glass beef foam. Well, 493 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: unless it's an alcohol resistant foam. The alcohol that's in 494 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: that gas causes the phone to break down, um, considerably 495 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: quicker than it normally would do its job. And it 496 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: does it doesn't do his job as well. So again 497 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: there there's uh every I think progress could be considered 498 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: two steps forward, three steps back, or three steps forward 499 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: two steps back for a net gain of one um. 500 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: And then you walk and then you walk up to 501 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: the car and now it's all electric, right, and and 502 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: now the game is totally different. Now it's just is 503 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the car off? Where's the where where the contact points? 504 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: Where the connections? Where's the battery? Where's the battery? Um? Yeah, 505 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: it becomes very very involved in a wheel. Well is 506 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: it in a trunk? Uh? You know today? Um, you 507 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: really don't know where they're putting their twelve vote batteries 508 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: to operate their accessories. In most cars, if you disconnect, 509 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: at least according to the manufacturers, if you disconnect the 510 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: twelve vote battery, it automatically, uh disconnects the high voltage 511 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: power supply in many cars, but not all, but not 512 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: all of them, you know. Hey, Tim, Tim, sit tight, 513 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: let me pull over. Take a pause. Well, well, I 514 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: want to hold you over an extra segment if you 515 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: have the time. Let's uh, let's let's keep going. This 516 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: is good stuff. I'm running any of the car Doctor 517 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: with Tim Richmond. He's the first responder, retired Bridgeport, Connecticut 518 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: Fire Department, and we're gonna welcome him back right after this. 519 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: Don't go away. This car is automatic, it's systematic, it's hard, dramatic. 520 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: What's freeze lightning? Hey, welcome back on the end of 521 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: the car Docera here this hour talking with Tim Richmond, 522 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: retired Bridgeport connected firefighter and the first responder. That's some 523 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: got some sight into Well, when you're approaching that vehicle 524 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: on fire, what are some of the things you need 525 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: to do. And what are some things you just say 526 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: somebody as a as a professional tim Uh. You know 527 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: when you walk up to that car and you're you're 528 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: thinking about the twelve volt system that's you know, powering 529 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: the engine perhaps or running. What are the concerns around 530 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: your mind? Some of the accessories come into play with 531 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: that twelve volt feed too. Correct. Oh, there's a lot 532 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: of things that come into mind. H. First of all, 533 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: if the vehicles on fire, Uh, it's how we approach 534 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: the car. We try to approach the car from an 535 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: angle uhtive degree angle. Uh. If it's an engine compartment 536 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: fire or something like that. There have been first responders 537 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: with older cars especially that have got the gas struts 538 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: in the front bumper, and when those become heated, Uh, 539 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: they can shoot that bumper out like it came out 540 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: of a cannon. Wow. Uh eddie gas strut. Uh, something 541 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: as simple as the gas strut that holds the hatchback 542 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: back up. I was gonna say, the hood supports, they've 543 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: got to be like, right, they've gotta be like rocket 544 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: ships exactly exactly. We actually had a kid at a 545 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: car fire drill one time. This was quite a while ago. Uh, 546 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: they went into the thing and set it on fire. 547 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: They did not remove all the struts. There was one 548 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: strut that they didn't realize, and that thing came out 549 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: like a rocket. I believe it was the hood strut 550 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: came out like a rocket. Hit the kid in the leg. 551 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: Luckily there was it wasn't any serious injury or anything. 552 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: But they can be very very dangerous. Unexploded airbags another 553 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: big problem. Um those things. If if you're in there 554 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: trying to cut a victim loose and one of those 555 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: goes off, it's like going three rounds with Mike Tyson 556 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's it's not a pleasant thing. I've 557 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: seen demonstrations where or a gallon drum was put over 558 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: an air bag and it was detonated and it pop 559 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: that thing up about fifteen feet in the air. Yeah, 560 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: well it goes off like a shotgun. B list. Oh absolutely, 561 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: it'll I've seen it where they put the air bag 562 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: upside down and it'll go up. It'll go up probably 563 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: close to it's. Yeah, it's. And then the other issue 564 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: we have is flammable metals and cars today. Um, if 565 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: you you know the rule of thumb is anything with 566 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: U M on it as a flammable metal, magnesium, aluminum, lithium, 567 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: anything like that. And you're seeing more and more of 568 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: those that stuff in cars today, magnesium especially, And when 569 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: you hit magnesium with water, it's like fourth of July. Uh, 570 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: that burns so hot when it does get going that 571 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: it actually separates the oxygen and hydrogen in water until 572 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: you get enough to really cool things down. And it's 573 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: quite an eye opener, Tim, Can you is is there 574 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: anything the listeners can do to increase their their odds 575 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: of surviving that cresh? You know. And what I'm thinking 576 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 1: about specifically is I come from the day when they 577 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: said nothing on the back deck of the car. Nothing 578 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, in the back seat. Everything in the car, 579 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: if it's not tied down, becomes a projectile. And it does. 580 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: It becomes a missile. And you approach some of these 581 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: cars today and there's so much stuff in the car. 582 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: It's it's got it. I'm as guilty of it as 583 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: anyone else. I mean, I have two working vehicles, uh 584 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: that I've constantly got, you know, unsecured or semi secured 585 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: stuff in there. The biggest thing is, don't make yourself 586 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: a missile. Use your seat belt. Uh, seat belts do 587 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: save lives. Seat belts and smoke detectors, they do save lives. Um, 588 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: a seat belt will keep you from being ejected. Um, 589 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: it's amazing. The Connecticut State Police to a great program. Uh. 590 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: They actually have the body of a car uh connected 591 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: to a motor and they rotated and they put dummies 592 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: in the vehicle. And it's amazing watching these dummies that 593 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: are unsecured. Uh. They weigh hunter and eighty pounds of 594 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: piece the adults eye once they get shot right out 595 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: of an open window. Um, like nothing. If they're looking 596 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: for volunteers, I can probably set you up with Tom. 597 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: He's I know a few people who I would gladly 598 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: volunteer Tom. Tom's shown up here a few days. I 599 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: think he's been in that program. His reaction to what 600 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: he's but anyway, Um, but well, Tom goes through Connecticut 601 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, and uh, we have a major 602 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: league pothole problem here. So I'm surprised he hasn't been 603 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: ejected yet. I know he used as his seat he does. 604 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: He's a good driver like that. So let me ask 605 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: you in our clothes ing Minuteum, is there is there 606 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: any particular websites. Is there is there a good source 607 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: for information maybe surviving a crash, or you know, is 608 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: there is there a crash basics one on one for everybody? 609 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, what kind of message can we give the 610 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: folks out there? Actually there's there's not nothing that I 611 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: really know of, per se for surviving a crash. I'm 612 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: sure that if you know, Google is your friend today, 613 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: and I'm very sure that if if you Google didn't 614 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: followed the few links, uh, you'd find some great answers 615 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: to uh individual questions that you might have. One thing 616 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: I would suggest that people do carry Uh. They make 617 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: a simple device that is a combination hammer, window breaker, uh, 618 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: seat belt cutter, whatever. And having something like that your 619 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: cargo off the road and you go into water. And 620 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: I've been to several of these, uh where or you know, 621 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: you need to disintagger yourself and self extra kate. Uh, 622 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: it's very very helpful to have one of these things, right. Yeah, 623 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: I've seen those and I think they were a great idea. 624 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Tim we got to leave it there. We're running out 625 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: of time, but we appreciate you taking the time, and 626 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: we appreciate what you and everyone out there like you does. 627 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: So I'll keep us safe on America's roads and highways. 628 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: So you take good care and have a good rest 629 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: of the weekend. And thanks for the information. I'm Ron 630 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: anading The Car Doctor. We are back right after this. 631 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back run an end of Car Doctor again thanks 632 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: to Tim Richmond, Bridgeport, Connecticut first responder and fire department member. 633 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: We Uh, you know it's got to be scared, right, 634 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: you're running up to a car on fire. Jane, Now 635 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: what do you want to you know, it's how many 636 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: seconds do we have to respond to this? And uh, 637 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: Mike Holy account. Um, interesting fix in Mitchell's sure Track 638 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: this week, Mitchell's shure track. Um, the real fixes up 639 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: there at Mitchell one mitchell one dot com talking about 640 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: lock up issues. I thought this was appropriate. We're talking 641 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: about a lot of transmission issues this week here on 642 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor, and it talks about how nothing is 643 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: more frustrating than going through an extensive repair and then 644 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: not having the vehicle operator as it should. And that 645 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: was the case where they point out a repair shop 646 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: had repaired a two thousand seven Hummer H three, the 647 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: trans wasn't going into lock up every time they had 648 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: gone through the trans was bead. They had rebuilt it, 649 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: and they had gone through several versions of software updates 650 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: and wiring harness repair. The vehicle was in a really 651 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: tough shape and kind of beat up. And through the 652 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: community of real fixed sure track over at mitchell one 653 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: mitchell one dot com, they are able to find out 654 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: that fuses incorrectly installed and missing. They inherited this vehicle, 655 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: they reconnected and corrected the fuses that were missing in 656 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle worked as worked as was supposed to UM 657 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: and all this kind of good information is over there 658 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: at mitchell one dot com. You can find it for 659 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: yourself out on the web. Until the next time I'm 660 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: rodin ating in the car doctor reminding you good mechanics 661 00:34:50,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you, She's sp