1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, this is Madeline. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: Hi Madeline, how are you good? 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 3: How are you? 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: I'm doing good man? What are you? What are you doing? 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 4: I'm at work right now, but I'm just taking a break, Marilyn. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Is there anything in particularly called in to talk about? 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 5: Oh? 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So over Christmas break, my boyfriend was like 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: having Christmas with his family, and his aunt kind of 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: joked about like, hey, if you ever get your girlfriend pregnant, like, 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: don't get an abortion, we'll take it because they are 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking for another child. They can't have children, so 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: they're looking to adopt, but the adoption agency that they 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: were with just like closed down or something. So she 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: was just joking about it. But then later on she 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: was like, like, we're actually looking for a surrogate too, 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: would Madeline be interested? And he was like, ha ha, 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: that's funny. But then he mentioned it to me and 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: I was like, actually, I could do that. I don't 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: know if it's a created idea because I'm nineteen, but. 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: So you're considering being a surrogate mother for your boyfriend's aunt. Yes, interesting, okay, 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: And who approached you with this idea? Was it it 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: was the aunt? It was your boyfriend. 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: It was my boyfriend. I wasn't like at the Christmas 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: event with them, it was just the. 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Family, Okay. And is this something that you talked to 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: your boyfriend's aunt about at length? 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: No, not at all. 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: Oh, you haven't even brought up the idea of it 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: to her. No, okay, And you're considering doing so. 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to decide whether or not like 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: a good idea because I am only nineteen. 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Okay. So I mean let's start with this. You seem 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: to have an interest in doing it. Where is that 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: interest coming from? 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I really, well, I really feel for her 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: because she is infertile and she really loves kids, Like 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: she has a daughter who's six right now, and she 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: was adopted and she really wants a younger brother for 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: her daughter, brother or sister. And I really feel for her, 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like if I could be that person 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: to help her, like, why not? 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Okay? So you want to do it, you know, simply 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: as a charitable act for this person who you feel for. 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 4: Right, right, okay? 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: Right? 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm in the perfect position in 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: life because I just like took a gap semester in college. 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: Okay, when you took this gap semester in college. What 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: were you initially planning to do during that time? 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay? So I took it because I wanted to focus 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: on my art more. I I made like a commissioned 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: thing for somebody, and I was like, Yo, what if 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: I could do this like more? But I didn't have 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: the time while I was in school, So I took 56 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: a gap semester. 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Okay. And I mean, do you feel as though you 58 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: will still be able to accomplish those goals while you 59 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: are also being a surrogate mother? 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Well, I've had like trouble finding motivation to accomplish those 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: schools in general since I've dropped out of college. But 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: so I don't know, I feel like this will maybe 63 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: get me on a better track. No, okay, it'll get 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: me off certain things that I probably shouldn't be on 65 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: in general. 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Like what. 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: Like drugs and alcohol nicotine? 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Okay? So you want to use this also as some 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: way to motivate you in getting your your shit together? 70 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a lifestyle chaine Okay? 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: And what kind of research have you done into into 72 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: motherhood of what it's like being pregnant? 73 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So I do you know, like the 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: list on TikTok the trend I don't know no what 75 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: is that, but like there's like a girl with the 76 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: list and it's like a list of a thousand things 77 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: that are wrong with pregnancy that could go wrong. 78 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm. 79 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Pretty up todated on that TikTok account and that's that 80 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of scare me that's gonna lear. 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: But Okay, So when you see this list of of 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: of ways that a pregnancy could go bad, does it 83 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: make you not want to be a surrogate mother? No? 84 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: Because honestly, my mom had five kids in the span 85 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: of six years, so I feel like if she can 86 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: do it, I can, right. 87 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, listen, Madaly, you know, I'm not going 88 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: to tell you what to do, but I mean, this 89 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: is a big, big decision to, you know, carry somebody 90 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: else's baby. I mean, how long have you can? I 91 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: ask you? I want to know. I want to know this. 92 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: How much of this is based off of your connection 93 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: to your boyfriends? 94 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 5: Right? 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: Like would you do this for just a random person? 96 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: Right? 97 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: That's interesting? Yeah, I mean We've been dating for two 98 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: years and I've got to know his family pretty well. 99 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, so you feel like your love of 100 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: his family is an influence, yeah for sure. Okay, how 101 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: much of an influence. 102 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Do you think they deserve another kid? 103 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: For sure is probably yeah, a big influence. Okay, So 104 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: I have a couple of things. Again, you know, at 105 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, it's your body, 106 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: it's your life. You can make your own decisions. But 107 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: the thing is, you know, you've only been dating this 108 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: guy for two years, and even though you you really 109 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: like his boyfriend's family, those relationships are you know, they 110 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: can go in any sort of different way. So you know, 111 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: to to to take on some bodies surrogate child and 112 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: really dedicate nine months of your life, you know, to 113 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: to being private, which is really tough. And and you 114 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: know I haven't seen this TikTok of this list of 115 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: a thousand things, but you know you have, and I'm 116 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: sure that the list shows you other things about it 117 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: that are tough, and so really we should look you 118 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: should look it up. Really just if you could, if 119 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: you could take into consideration, uh, your life as it 120 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: looks right now, and uh, what would be best for you. 121 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: I think it's great, okay that you want to do 122 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: something nice for someone, you know, I think that that 123 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: that that shows that you have empathy, uh, and that 124 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: you want to do nice things for the people. I 125 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: think that that's a good thing to do. But I mean, 126 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: this is a big thing, right, It's a big thing. 127 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: And and and I think, I mean. 128 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: How would you say this compares to like that a 129 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: stranger doing it for somebody? 130 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's a lot more that could 131 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: potentially go wrong with it being one of the members 132 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: of your boyfriend's family, because you've got no idea what's 133 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: going to go on with you know, you and your boyfriends. 134 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: Okay, right, right, Yeah, So. 135 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: I would really consider this, Madeline, because you, especially at 136 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: you know, nineteen, man, you got to do what's right 137 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: for you. You know. Again, I think it's I think it's 138 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: nice that you want to help this person who you 139 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: really feel for. But I think at this moment, you know, 140 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: you need to make the decision that you know sets 141 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: you up for success in your life. And I don't 142 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: know if this is it, but again, it's your decision. 143 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, I definitely need to think about it more. 144 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, what what what has your conversation with your 145 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: boyfriend been like about this? 146 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: He's definitely more interested in the financial bonus that it 147 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: would give, because like I am pretty broke, you know, 148 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: so it would it would help. 149 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: Okay, When when he says he's interested in the financial bonus, 150 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: does that mean does that mean he expects to reap 151 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: some of that financial benefits? 152 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: Kinda, he did ask me to pay for like a 153 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: semester of his school, Okay, but I mean he has 154 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: to pay for. 155 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: His own schooling, so I kind of get it. You know, 156 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: it's expensive. 157 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: Okay. I don't like to tell people what to do. 158 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you do not give you, do 159 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: not do not be your boyfriend's aunts. Sorry, get mother 160 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: to make money to pay for ale to go to school. 161 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: Please don't do that. 162 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I didn't think about it that way. 163 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: When you put it that way, okay, And don't pay 164 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: for your boyfriend. Don't pay for your boyfriend's school at all. 165 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: I would like at nine. You know, look, if you're 166 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: in like a very adult long term relationship and you 167 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: want to make an informed decision to invest in the 168 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: life of your partner, then you know, do whatever you 169 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: feel with your money in your life. But I just 170 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: think right now is a terrible decision to do you 171 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: to you know, do that I especially your life is 172 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: so undeveloped right now that you know all of your 173 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: time and resources should be spent you know, on yourself. 174 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: For sure. But like I've struggled with, like finding the 175 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: motivation to start that you know in general. 176 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. And you know what, Listen, I understand that 177 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: I understand that you have the motivation, and I understand 178 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: that you're looking at this as a potential catalyst to 179 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: get you started on on doing what you want to do. 180 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: But before you make that decision, can you at least 181 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: consider other ideas? Have you considered? You seem to be 182 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: having this motivation problem which you know I have, which 183 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people have, is a common problem, and 184 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: you're you're your for and you know, tell me if 185 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm if I'm wrong, or if I'm putting words in 186 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: the mouth in your mouth, But it sounds like you're 187 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: looking for ways to uh get yourself in a more 188 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: motivated mindset and this could possibly be one for you. 189 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: Have you explored? Is that is that accurate? 190 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: That's so true? Yeah? 191 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: Okay? Have you explored alternative options? 192 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: No? I have not, honestly. 193 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Before you decide to get pregnant as a way 194 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: to jump start your life and get the motivation you want. 195 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: I I encourage you to look into other options because 196 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: you know that. 197 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: That's what What would you suggest. 198 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think about that? Would I suggest? Well, 199 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: what do you want to be motivated to do? 200 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: Well? 201 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get started on my art career. 202 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 4: Okay, some more art. 203 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think about other options here. I mean, like, 204 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if I have anything 205 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: off the top of my head, except like fucking read 206 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: self help books and stuff that helped a lot for 207 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: me when I was trying to get motivated to do things, 208 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: or you know, I don't know, dude, having a friend 209 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: who's trying to do something similar and you guys team 210 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: up and motivate each other, or going to art classes 211 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: or joining weekly meetup groups, or getting a life coach, 212 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: or you know. I mean, those are just random things. 213 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: I'll spit along here, but I would put all of 214 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: them above becoming a surrogate mother for your boyfriend's aunts. Yeah. 215 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: No, that's actually a really good idea. My best friend 216 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: is moving in with me in a couple of days actually, 217 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: so she'll be a great help I think for that. 218 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: Okay, good good, and listen, you know we've talked on 219 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: the phone for ten minutes. I'm not going to pretend 220 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: like I know you and your boyfriend's relationship. But if 221 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: you really get the sense that your boyfriends is a 222 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: tempting to make money off of you by having you 223 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: be his aunt's surrogate mother h bye, so that he 224 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: can pay for school, I don't know if that's what's happening. 225 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that that what's happening, but 226 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: you should you should look into that if that's what 227 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: you suspect is happening. 228 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well, I feel like I should say he 229 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't like, yo, Madamin, and like you should totally do this. 230 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: My aunt said this and you should do it. No, 231 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: he was like, yo, my aunt said this, like I 232 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: don't even know if she was serious. And I was like, 233 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, like that could actually work. 234 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: Okay, it was more my idea than his. 235 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, like the funny age plastic 236 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: would be nice. 237 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, again, I don't want to put 238 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: that in your boyfriend's mouth because I don't know the 239 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: actual situation, but just If you can get anything out 240 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: of this call, it would be to explore, it would 241 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: be to I'll leave you with this as the final 242 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: sum up of this. Okay, think about what your motivations 243 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: are in wanting to be a surrogate mother for your 244 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: boyfriend's aunt. Okay, really boil that down to the simplest 245 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: of those motivations, and then think of other ways to 246 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: achieve those motivations. Gotcha, Does that make sense? 247 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 248 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Madeline, is there anything else you want to say 249 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? 250 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Not much. I'm gonna go with some of the rest 251 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: of the stream. 252 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Thank you very much, Madeline. Good luck to you. 253 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Jack. 254 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: It is becoming harder and harder to tell people to 255 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: not tell people what to do on these phone calls, 256 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to stick to it. Yes, I mean 257 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: that's she had an interesting conundrum here because she was 258 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: having these motivation problems. She's like, I want to do this. 259 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: I want to jump start my art career. I've always 260 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: been a big fan of like taking the motivations for 261 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: your actions and boiling them down to really simple things 262 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: and then seeing if you can get them in other places. 263 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So she wants to have 264 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: a little bit more structure or I don't know, like 265 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: like responsibility. Maybe maybe that's what she was looking for, 266 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: like something to just hold her accountable to like go 267 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: do things in life. And I get why that can be. 268 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: And then, you know, that's a thing that I think 269 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people need. I need it for sure. 270 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: You know, I can very easily spend an entire day 271 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: doing absolutely nothing and jerking off and smoking weed all 272 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: day if I don't have some kind of outside thing, 273 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: you know, compelling me not to do those things. And 274 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: I think maybe that's what she was looking for, is 275 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: something outside of herself to you know, motivate her to 276 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: get her wheel spinning. But I think that there are 277 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: far less drastic options or methods of achieving that, and 278 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: I hope she finds one that works for her. 279 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: Hello. Hello, Hi, is it Slole? 280 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: Yes? Is this Andrew? 281 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 282 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 5: This is me. I'm here. 283 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: What's going on? What's going on? Andrew? 284 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 5: Not much? Just chilling out, trying to have a relaxing Monday, 285 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: getting over a cold. 286 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: Okay, And what is it that you wanted to call 287 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: in and talk about? 288 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: I was just wondering your opinion on kind of a 289 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 5: difficult decision that I've been contemplating over the last few years. 290 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 5: Ever since I was in like seventh grade. I think 291 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: I started like collecting images from the Internet of pregnant 292 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: NTI and it's kind of become a bit of a problem, 293 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: or at least I foresee it being a potential problem 294 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: in the future. I think at this point, I have 295 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 5: a hard drive with about eighty thousand images on it, 296 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: and I've dumped for probably far too many hours than 297 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 5: I'd like to even think about into that project. And 298 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: I've also done like sketching in a full sketch book 299 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: of artwork that I've made, and done sculptures as well. 300 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 5: But I just can't seem to get rid of this stuff. 301 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: Like I, you know, kind of just have this weird 302 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 5: fascination because I feel like the pregnant female figure is 303 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: just a beautiful form in the femininity of it, you know, 304 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 5: the feature that masculinity can never come close to, because 305 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 5: it's the equal opposite kind of in like an artistic sense. 306 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 5: But it's also kind of a little a little bit 307 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: of a turn on. But it's not something that I 308 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 5: specifically seek out as like a sexual thing all the time. However, 309 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 5: after collecting all of this content that I've produced and 310 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 5: that I've gathered from the Internet over the last decade, 311 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what to do with it now because 312 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 5: of the moment I'm in a relationship, and I'm absolutely 313 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 5: petrified that either my girlfriend or anybody in my family 314 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: is going to find out about this, and I don't 315 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: think that any of them are ready for it. And 316 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 5: I don't think that the world is very much of 317 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: an accepting place for something like that, at least from 318 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: what I've seen. 319 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I have a couple of questions from 320 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: your perspective. Why do you think that the world is 321 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: not an accepting place for something like that? 322 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 5: I don't know, because every single time I'm on Reddit 323 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: for a pregnant HENTI forum thread, like our splash pregnant 324 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: anti got shut down and now there's a new one, 325 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: so like, it's not something that people on the internet 326 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 5: kind of want around all the time necessary unless you're 327 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: in that group of people who are looking for that content. 328 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 5: At least that's how I kind of feel from stuff 329 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: like that getting shut down, own or canceled constantly, and 330 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 5: it's not I'm not doing anyone any harm, and I'm 331 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 5: not thinking of it in like a sadistic, messed up way, 332 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 5: like I want to impregnate real people. But it's it's 333 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 5: the imagery of it, you know, more more the cartoon version, 334 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 5: the animated, not the real life necessarily. But I feel 335 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: like that plays into appreciating the beauty of people in 336 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: the real world as well. However, It's not like i'd 337 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: go out of my way to date someone because they're pregnant. 338 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 5: That's not at all the case. But if I were 339 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: to get my girlfriend pregnant, then I almost kind of 340 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 5: at the same time feel well, it's beautiful, and I 341 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 5: would be interested in that and in the you know, 342 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: not for the fetish, but for the full creating a 343 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: family experience with her. That would be great. But I'm 344 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 5: also really afraid of that because she's not willing to 345 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: have children, because she doesn't want to have to go 346 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 5: through all of that, and she's kind of terrified of 347 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 5: the idea. And I don't want her to think that 348 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 5: I have some need and I'm going to, you know, 349 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 5: try and force that upon her somehow if that's not 350 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: what she wants to do. I don't even want to 351 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: give her the idea that. 352 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: That's let me let me all right. So you're afraid 353 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: that are you in a relationship right now? Yeah? 354 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 5: Okay, that's a pretty good one too, which is why 355 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm afraid that she finds in my room. 356 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 2: Let me, let me hold on, let me all right. 357 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: You're in a relationship right now, and your girlfriend, you know, 358 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: does not want to have a child. No, okay, And 359 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: so you're afraid that if your girlfriend sees all the 360 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: pregnant porn, she'll assume you want her to get pregnant 361 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 2: because you have this pregnancy thing whatever you would call it, 362 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: but you do, and you don't want her to think 363 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: that you're like pushing your fantasy onto her, because that's 364 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: not what's happening here. 365 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. And I think because she has this position where 366 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 5: she's kind of in a weird space about it, I'm 367 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: afraid if she figured out then she thinks that I'm, 368 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 5: you know, this weird creep for having that interest or something. 369 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: Okay, how long have you been with this person before? 370 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: Currently for four years? 371 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you've been with this girl for four years? 372 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 373 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: Listen, do you see a future with with this person? 374 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 5: I think so? Yeah, Yeah, she's really great and I 375 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 5: love spending time with her, and we share a lot 376 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: in common. 377 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Okay, And I think and you feel free to do 378 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: whatever you want with your life, but I think if 379 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: you're going to life is short, and if you're going 380 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: to devote significant amounts of time to a relationship, four 381 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: years is a lot of time. And if you want 382 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: the future to continue, then you know you'll probably be 383 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: devoting a lot more time. I think it is important 384 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: to have a partner who you know, again, as long 385 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: as you're not doing anything that is truly heinous, to 386 00:24:53,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: have a partner who is understanding, who is understanding and 387 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: accepting of, you know, these kinds of parts of you. 388 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: So ideally, if your partner sees that you're into pregnant 389 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: hint type hoorn, maybe it would take her a second. 390 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: You know, let's give her a second. But ideally, if 391 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: she loves you, she could be accepting of that. Now, 392 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: tell me, is your fear true that she would not 393 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: be accepting of this? 394 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm afraid that she's gonna see all of 395 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 5: the files on my hard drive and all of the 396 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 5: drawings and stuff that I've made, and especially the drawings 397 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 5: because then she'll feel like, you know, I'm not just 398 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: collecting this stuff passively. I'm actively creating a part of 399 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 5: the pool of this content on the internet. 400 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: You would be afraid that you would see that you're 401 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: creating hent type porn. 402 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have, like, all. 403 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: Okay, what's wrong? But let me ask what's wrong with 404 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: creating hent type porn. 405 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: I don't know exactly that's what I'm saying, but I'm 406 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: afraid that she'll see that because she's against it. And 407 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 5: then I mean, she's pretty accepting, So I don't know honestly, 408 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: But it's that fear that's causing me to feel like 409 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 5: there's that potential danger. But I don't want to get 410 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: rid of any of this stuff either. Okay, it just 411 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 5: kind of kept me in like a constant state of 412 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 5: paranoia over it every single. 413 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: Time anywhere near my computer or hold on, all right, 414 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna sum up a few things. You 415 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: you're in a constant state of fear and paranoia that 416 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: your partner will find this thing out about you and 417 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: and uh it will cause them to judge you and 418 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: think less of you and not want to be with 419 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: you anymore. You believe that your partner, however, is a 420 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: non judgmental person. 421 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, mostly so, I mean she knows that collect 422 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 5: hand tie. She she sees there's you know, comic books 423 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 5: from faku in my in my room, but she doesn't 424 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: see any of the other stuff that's not kind of vanilla. Okay, 425 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: and that's where. 426 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: I have. 427 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: Listen, Andrew, I'm I'm not going to tell you what 428 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: to do, but I'll leave it at this. If this, 429 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: if you're like, see the future of this person. You 430 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: don't get married to this person. You want this person 431 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: to be in your life, it should be somebody who 432 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: you are fully comfortable with sharing all the parts of you. 433 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 2: So mhmm, I mean, find it. I think you should, just. 434 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 5: Like, I just don't know when to bring that up. 435 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: Though, What if you do, Like, because if. 436 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 5: I'm going to talk to her about it so that 437 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 5: she knows and I don't have to continue to feel 438 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: this fear that she'll find out accidentally, Like, I don't 439 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 5: know if I should bring it up to her at random, 440 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 5: or if I should you know, wait until we're further 441 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 5: into the relationship and then maybe you know it. Eventually 442 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: she changes her mind and she wants that kids. 443 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Okay, my friends, you're four years into the relationship. I 444 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: don't know what you're waiting for. When you put it 445 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: that way, I can hear you're four years into the relationship. 446 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: And also you're waiting. I know you're waiting for the 447 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: time in which you don't feel the fear of having 448 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: the conversation. It's never going to happen. There is not 449 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: a future version of yourself that will not be feeling 450 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: the fear of wanting to have this conversation. So just 451 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: have it now. 452 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just don't know how to start 453 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 5: it though. 454 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: Hey, honey, I want to show you something. See this 455 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: hard drive eighty thousand images of pregnant anime women. What 456 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: do you think about that? 457 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: And I guess I really could just rip it off 458 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: like the band aid. 459 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: Let's say, Andrews, is there anything else you want to 460 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: say to the people of the computer before you go? 461 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: Wish me luck and faith. 462 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: Good luck. I'm please do please, do take care. 463 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: Man, appreciate it. Thank you, have a good night you too. 464 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe the way I told him to do it 465 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: was a little bit bold, but was it really? Was it? Really? 466 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: Maybe this is something that you need to be bold 467 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: about here's you know, I've I've I've been thinking about 468 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: this a lot. I've been thinking about this a lot. 469 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: I think if somebody really I don't I don't know, 470 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if somebody who really likes you, 471 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: they won't care about a lot of shit like that. 472 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: I think, if somebody really likes you, they won't care 473 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: about a lot of shit like that. Because, again, what, 474 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with the 475 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: consumption and production of pregnant to anime porn. Do I 476 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: think there's anything wrong in terms of things that it 477 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: might do to negatively affect the consumer? Probably? Is there 478 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: anything ethically wrong with it that might, you know, make 479 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: somebody look frown upon somebody else in a relationship. Probably not. 480 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: But I just this guy's living with all this fear 481 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: of his girlfriend finding his hard drive, and it's like, 482 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: either she's going to find it or I don't know. 483 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: I see a situation for this guy where he shows 484 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: her everything and she goes, I don't care. You know, 485 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: I love you, and do whatever you want. Just don't, 486 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: you know, draw anything fucked up and then think about 487 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: how much better he'll feel. Okay, I'll take another call. Hello, Lyle, Hi, 488 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: who is this? 489 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: This is Grandma. It's beasting girls. Grandma, Okay, saying I Grandma. 490 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: I want to talk to grandma. 491 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: Okay, what is grand But. 492 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: My granddaughter came to Philadelphia instead on a cake on 493 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: your stage. 494 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 2: Yes I remember that? 495 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: Remember that? 496 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: Of course? Yes I do. I do remember that. 497 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 3: Can you explain to me in therapy terms why she 498 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: would do that? 499 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: Can I explain to you in therapy terms, why your 500 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: granddaughter would come to my live show and sit on 501 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: a cake in front of people? 502 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 503 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can. I don't know if 504 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: I can explained in therapy terms. But I mean, I 505 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: don't know if I true, I could not explain any 506 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: any you know, better than she could because it was, 507 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: you know, her decision that she made. I mean, it 508 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: was entertaining. Everybody there enjoyed it. 509 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: I think. 510 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: No, I never said, I never said you were mad? 511 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: But listen, what is your name? 512 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: My name is Lady Fond. I actually am yep, I'm 513 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: a lady Fawn, and I am actually a sixty eight 514 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: year old, and I really am her grandmother. And I 515 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: have a master's degree. I used to do purchasing wood 516 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: in My master's degree was in purchaser or in business, 517 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: but I did contracts for major corporations for a living. 518 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm retired. 519 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, what's your life like these days? 520 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: Let's see. Well, I have my granddaughter living with me. 521 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: I own a home. I just retired a year and 522 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: a half ago after working for forty three years. I sleep, 523 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: I do what I want, which is nice after all 524 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: this time. You know how you say life's too short. Yeah, 525 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: it really is too short, because by the time you 526 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: have my age, you have no energy left. 527 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: What would you do if you had more energy? 528 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 3: Oh, I'd be traveling and money. I'd be traveling all 529 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: over the world, all over the world. I would like 530 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: to go everywhere. I've been all over the United States, 531 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 3: but I'd like to go outside the United States. 532 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, where would you want to go? 533 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: I'd like to go to Japan. I'd like to go 534 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: to England. I'd love to go to Ireland. And I'd 535 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: actually like to go to Israel. I believe it or not, 536 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: my background is Jewish, Irish Catholic. 537 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: Hey, hey me too. I still have not yet gone 538 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: to Israel, but I know that there's like a birthright trip. 539 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I would love to do. Actually, my 540 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: father's side goes back heritage wise, goes back to way way, way, 541 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: way back. I won't get into the name, but our 542 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: ancestors go way back into the BC. I mean, like 543 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: way back when Israel wasn't even Israel. My grandfather came 544 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: had to go to Turkey to get away from the Holocaust. 545 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be cool to go to Israel? 546 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to go to Israel someday. 547 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: Maybe we can take a trip together. 548 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: You want to take a trip with me to Israel. 549 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll paint my face green. 550 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: You don't have to paint your face green to go 551 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: to Israel. 552 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: I know, but I do it. So at least we match. 553 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: When you were younger, did you get to travel a lot? 554 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. For work, I traveled all over I 555 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: was in California. I want to. I want to. I've 556 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: been in all the states in the United States. I've 557 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 3: been to every state in the US. Like I said, 558 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: I did purchasing contracts, so I traveled constantly to places 559 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 3: with engineers so that they could I would review the contracts. 560 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: I mean, they weren't small chains. There were big contracts 561 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: and we'd have people making stuff for us and so, 562 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: been to Florida and you name it, you name the state. 563 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 3: I've been in it. 564 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: And which state did you enjoy the most? 565 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: In state? You know, that's a good question. The state 566 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: I enjoyed, Oh, Nashville, Tennessee, love. 567 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 2: Ville, Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, I. 568 00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 5: Was just. 569 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 3: It's not only beautiful, it's not only nice, and it's 570 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: it's warm. It's past the fact that it's got country western. 571 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 3: When you get outside the city, you get to the country, 572 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: it's beautiful. It's just beautiful landscape, horses everywhere. It's just beautiful. 573 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: So all right, lady, fun, time to talk some shit. 574 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: Which one is the worst? 575 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 3: Which one are you? 576 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 5: Oh? 577 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 3: You want to know which one's the worst? I hope 578 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 3: there's not a lot of people in from California. 579 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 2: Why California. 580 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 3: California. Let's see, I want to be culturally sensitive. California 581 00:37:52,400 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: just doesn't have it's it's a it's such a mixed 582 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: pot there of people. You have the really really rich 583 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: and elite that you know, we're in California, and they 584 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: can be a little on this neody side. And then 585 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 3: you hear people who have immigrated from Mexico or whatever. 586 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: You know, Nicaragua wherever, and they're real humble and they're 587 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: real nice people. But you see that they're not treated 588 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: as equals, which I don't think is white. So it 589 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: just the state just doesn't put its best foot forward 590 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: when it comes to showing its diversity for people. 591 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: Why would you think that that was culturally insensitive? 592 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: Pardon? 593 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: I said, why would you think that that was culturally insensitive? 594 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 3: Well, if while you're there, you see how some people 595 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: treat other people and they they don't treat them as 596 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 3: their equals. When I say culture, I shouldn't, I guess 597 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 3: use the term culturally sensitive. But just people don't treat 598 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: each other with respect and they don't treat each other 599 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: as equals. We're all, we're all equal on this earth. 600 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: I asked you a questions. Let me ask you a question. 601 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm very curious about when you were growing up compared 602 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: to now. Do you think that do you think that 603 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: people treated each other with more respect? 604 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it was ingrained in us when we were young, 605 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: When we were young, yes, absolutely, My parents parents were 606 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 3: a lot stricter when I was growing up. There was 607 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: more structure, there was a guideline. It was like a 608 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: ruler that you didn't step beyond certain things when I 609 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: was growing up. I actually think that we've I think 610 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 3: it's better for the for the younger generation now because 611 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: I think anybody can be what they want to be. 612 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: Now we ask our children. You know, my father one 613 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 3: time time asked me, why are you asking your son 614 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: when he wants to eat what he would like to 615 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 3: have for dinner. You just put the plate in front 616 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: of him with food, and it's it. Whatever's cooked is 617 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 3: what he has to eat. And I said, because he 618 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 3: has tastes. Some days the hamburger is good, some days, 619 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 3: odd dog's good. I said, So whether he's five or six, 620 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 3: he's got a feeling and know something to say about it. 621 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 3: My father thought that was terrible that I asked him that. 622 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: So why do you think that people respect each other 623 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: less nowadays? 624 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: That was state, That was California. But yet I've been 625 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: to places like, I will say, Nashville, Tennessee. The people 626 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: are friendly, warm, outgoing, easy to communicate with. You can 627 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 3: go anywhere you want talk to anybody. They'll they'll they'll 628 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 3: they're friendly, they'll talk to you about their their state 629 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: or whatever. Whereas now and that was California, I'm referencing 630 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 3: California only you asked me what was the worst state? California. 631 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is out there out in California, 632 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 3: but it's just different. It's structurally different. 633 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 2: Where did you grow up. 634 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 3: I was in Los Angeles, Okay, in Lax. 635 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 2: How do you think Los Angeles has changed in the 636 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 2: Have you been there? But have you been back there since? 637 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: No? No, I wouldn't want to go back there, to 638 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: be honest, I wouldn't want to go back there because 639 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like it was a place i'd 640 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 3: ever want to be again. 641 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: Okay, didn't feel it. 642 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 3: Just couldn't get any warmth out of the general feeling there. 643 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 3: And the other thing that's really sad about California is 644 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: I drove down many different streets while I was there. 645 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: I was in the inner city of LA and it 646 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: really broke my heart to see how many. I know 647 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: there's homeless people everywhere, but in California, there were so 648 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 3: many that I saw, yeah, that it made me sad. 649 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 3: I mean, it just seemed like a bigger population. I mean, 650 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 3: I know it's in every state and I recognize that, 651 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: but in California it was really prominent and that it's 652 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 3: a sad, sad state of affairs that were we're all 653 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: here and we're not taking care of each other. 654 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: Can I ask what part of the country you live 655 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 2: in now? 656 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I live in the Northeast. I live in I 657 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: live in Buffalo Bill Country. 658 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 2: How about that Buffalo Bill Country. That's the guy that 659 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: killed people and ate them right? 660 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no Buffalo Bills as in the football team. 661 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's a different guy I live. 662 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 3: I live. Yeah, I live upstate New York near not 663 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 3: too far from Niagara Falls. 664 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: So tell me this, Grandma. I want I would like 665 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 2: to know what is I mean? Look, you say that 666 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: you don't have enough time and energy and whatnot, Like, 667 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: what's preventing you from from taking your trips that you 668 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: want to take? 669 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: Oh? I have I After I retired, I found out 670 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: I have spinal stenosis in my back, so I'm missing 671 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 3: missing part of a disc in my back, so I 672 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 3: can't stand for long periods. And it's made it a 673 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: little more restrictive of what what I can and can't do. 674 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. 675 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to have surgery on my back mm hmmmmm. 676 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 3: So that kind of limits me more so of taking 677 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 3: the trip i'd like the trips I'd like to take, 678 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 3: and finances. I got to be honest with you. When 679 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: I was working, I made great money. But when you retire, 680 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 3: it's not the same. It is that, you know. I 681 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 3: got to be honest. Medicare all this stuff they pump 682 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 3: up that they say social Security and your pensions and 683 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 3: this and that not they not what they leave you. 684 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: Especially when you've worked forty three years. Your income, unless 685 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 3: you continue to work into your seventies or whatever, your 686 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: income comes down when you stop working. 687 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question here. I know 688 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: that there are obvious con to being retired and to 689 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 2: being at you know, the stage that you're at in 690 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 2: life of you know, less money is coming in your 691 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: your You know your body doesn't work the way I 692 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 2: used to. But I want to know what is like 693 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 2: your life today as it is. What is better about 694 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 2: your life right now than your life in the past. 695 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm happier. I can't tell me what content. 696 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: Pardon I said to tell me why. 697 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm happier. I'm more content. I don't have to be 698 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't have to get up to the alarm at 699 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: five thirty am and get dressed up and run right 700 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: out the door with a cup of coffee and go 701 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,240 Speaker 3: into an office and deal with stress all day long. 702 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 3: And then I'm home and have a home to deal 703 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: with and everything like that. It's it's less stressful to 704 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 3: be retired. And I can sleep till noon if the 705 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 3: mood strikes me. If I want to stay up till 706 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 3: three o'clock in the morning and watch movies, I can. 707 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: My time is my time now. I'm not constraint to 708 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 3: somebody else's demands. The kids are grown. Thank goodness. The 709 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: kids are grown. They don't live with me, you know. 710 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 3: The kids are doing their own thing. Even having the 711 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 3: granddaughter here is good. I like having the granddaughter here. 712 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: She keeps me young. 713 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 2: How so. 714 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 3: How she's cracking up sitting across for me? What did 715 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 3: I'm talking to the therapy get go? I said, I'm 716 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 3: calling them. I'm gonna call him. She's like, really, Grammy, 717 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna go? I said, you know me, we always 718 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 3: do fun things. Her and I do fun things together. 719 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 3: See it's fun because she's twenty one. 720 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Are you having fun? I call right now? Yes, yes, okay, cool? 721 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 3: This fun? Yes? And I think you give really great advice. 722 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 3: By the way. 723 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, man, I appreciate that. 724 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm a psychology minor. My bachelors was a psychology minor. 725 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 2: What kinds of fun things do you and your granddaughter 726 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: do together? 727 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 5: Oh? 728 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 3: We love going to the grocery store, buying good food 729 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 3: that we want. We go watching watching you. You were 730 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 3: on live, she'd, let's we know when you're on live, Rory. 731 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 3: I put it on my computer. My computer tells me 732 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 3: when you're on live watching you. We go. We went 733 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: shopping at Christmas. We bought matching pjs for Christmas, so 734 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 3: we go bargain bargain shopping. We like doing that. She 735 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 3: helps me around the house. We just do fun stuff. 736 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 3: We watched movies, funny movies together. She's teaching me all 737 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: about the new generation. 738 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you learning about the new generation? 739 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 740 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 2: A lot? Tell me the most. Tell me the most 741 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 2: interesting thing, the. 742 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 3: Most interesting thing. That there's some stuff and I'm going 743 00:49:54,239 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: to pronounce it wrong. I know. I am asha wire ayahuasca. 744 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 2: Yes, ayahuasca. 745 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I just learned all about that. Terry. 746 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 5: Huh. 747 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 3: I think I think it's interesting. 748 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: Okay, is that something you would ever say, you would 749 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 2: ever do ayahuasca. 750 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could at my age, I 751 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm on medications and stuff, so I don't know. 752 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 3: If I could, I would do it. I would love 753 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 3: to see what what would see the inside of my soul. 754 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 3: I would love to know what's there. I would love 755 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 3: to do that absolutely. 756 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 757 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 3: I think that. You know, so she we watched stuff, 758 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 3: and she's got me watching movies I never thought i'd 759 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 3: watched before, but I watch them and I go, I 760 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 3: like that that was a good movie. I mean, I 761 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 3: watch Euphoria, I watched all different stuff. 762 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 2: M Okay. So from what you've learned about the new generation, 763 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: what is what is your take? Do you think that 764 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 2: do you think society is gonna be okay in the 765 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 2: hands of the new generation? 766 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 3: Why? That's a good question. Excuse me. I think I 767 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna be okay. I think I 768 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 3: think they've got a lot of struggles in front of them. 769 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 3: I don't think it's about the generation. I think it's 770 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 3: the sad part is people like me, for instance, what 771 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm giving them to deal with. I think that the 772 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 3: the environment, our earth, our planet is global warming is 773 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: something that's going to be very traumatic for them to 774 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 3: deal with. I don't think our economic status is going 775 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: to make it easy for them. Our younger generation also 776 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: is having a tough time figuring out. They see their 777 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 3: parents and grandparents like me, they know what they don't 778 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 3: want to do by seeing what we've done, how we've 779 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 3: worked and worked and worked. I think we've put a 780 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 3: lot of obstacles in front of them. So do I 781 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 3: think they can handle them? Yeah, I think they'll be 782 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 3: able to handle them, but it won't be easy. 783 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 5: M M. 784 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 3: What do you think do you think our younger generations ready? 785 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know. I don't know because we have 786 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 2: a lot of things that are so new. When you 787 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 2: look at the timeline of all of human existence, the 788 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: amount of time that you know, phones and computers and 789 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 2: the Internet which are so dominant. Yes, and you know 790 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: we've grown up with them. They've only been around for 791 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 2: about point zero zero zero. I could go on and 792 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: say thousands of zeros. 793 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know the funny part is I went to 794 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 3: school for computers. That's my first degree. I'm a computer programmer. 795 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 3: I was then on the bottom line and when computers 796 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 3: were the big IBM machines. 797 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 2: And they've they've changed. Now they've changed. There's a lot 798 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 2: of you can do anything on the computer right now. 799 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have kids. Ye, I do everything. I 800 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 3: literally have a big screen computer in front of me. 801 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 3: I have my phone with I'm I'm total tech. I'm 802 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm a pretty hip grammar. 803 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 2: I think you're a pretty hip grandma too. I would 804 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 2: agree with that sentiment. I appreciate that you're doing your best. 805 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: I like that you've been able to connect with your granddaughter. 806 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 2: I think that that's very nice and that you've you know, 807 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 2: made this to you know, sort of understand what's going 808 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: on with the younger generation instead of just you know, 809 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 2: holding to whatever you kind of have been into your 810 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 2: whole life. And I think that's a. 811 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. They have different values than we did, which is 812 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 3: to me, is a good thing. They don't value money 813 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 3: like we did when I was growing up or when 814 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,959 Speaker 3: I was out there working, that was the big thing. 815 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 3: Who hid the biggest pool, Who hid the biggest house? 816 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 3: This new generation, God bless them, they don't they that's 817 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 3: not what it's about for them. 818 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 2: What do you think it's about. 819 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 3: I think it's about just living their lives, enjoying life. 820 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 3: They see more, they have more do more leisurely things. 821 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 3: They take more time out, They they're more humanitarian. I 822 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 3: think they're more involved in things that we weren't. We 823 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 3: were trash in our environment and they're worried about not 824 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 3: cleaning it up. I just I see a lot of 825 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 3: pluses in them. 826 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Lady Fawn, you said your name was Yep, 827 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 2: Lady Fawn, thank you so much for talking to us 828 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 2: about all of this stuff. I think, you know, I 829 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 2: feel like we've learned a great deal and it was 830 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 2: it was exciting to hear from you. And again, I 831 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: appreciate the effort that you're making to continue to be 832 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 2: in touch with the world around you. And you know, 833 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 2: by doing so, you're bonding closer to your Grandda, And 834 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 2: I think, oh, that's awesome. 835 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 3: I thank you. And you know something, one thing I 836 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 3: do want to say. We're waiting for your schedule to 837 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 3: come out to see where you're going to be, because 838 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 3: we want to come see you in person. 839 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, where where would you come see me? 840 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean you said you live in upstate New York. 841 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 2: I'll be in Philly and I'll be in New York. 842 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean I'll drive either one I got. 843 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 3: I got the nice vehicle. That's one thing about the 844 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 3: Fond Lady, Fond Lady is the newest cadgets iner car 845 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 3: with you to the computer and it'll tell me how 846 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 3: to get there. 847 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: Now, if you come to the show, will you come 848 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 2: on stage and talk? 849 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely, I'd love to. 850 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 2: All Right, it's see, it's it's in, it's in the calendar. 851 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 2: We're doing it. Yes, of course. I'm sure your hopefully 852 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 2: your granddaughter follows me on the computer and will tell 853 00:56:59,360 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 2: you when I am. 854 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 3: And she's right, yep, she's on there right now. She's 855 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 3: recording this. 856 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 2: Perfect perfect Well, lady Lady Fawn, is there anything else 857 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 2: that you want to say to the people of the 858 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: computer before we go? 859 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're they're funny. I love the chats. I 860 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 3: think people have great things to say. I think that 861 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 3: your audience is outstanding. I think they really give give 862 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 3: good input, and I think you do an excellent job 863 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 3: and in talking to the people on this on the 864 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 3: screen at the same time that you're taking the phone call. 865 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Lady Fawn. I I appreciate 866 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 2: you saying that, and uh, I appreciate you sharing with 867 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: us and Uh, I'll see you on the road soon. 868 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm excited to. 869 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 4: Talk to you. 870 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 3: You will, Okay, you have I know you're tired. You 871 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 3: the last time I watched you, you fell asleep, actually 872 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 3: in your chair. You were so tired. 873 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 2: I did, I did. I've been very tired lately. I 874 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 2: got to eat better food and sleep more. 875 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,439 Speaker 3: I changed my diet. I changed my diet around. Yep. 876 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 3: It's a big impact on what you eat. And my 877 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 3: granddaughter's big on that. 878 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it from me. 879 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 3: She won't sit on a cake. Yeah, she won't sit 880 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 3: on a cake again. 881 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 2: All Right, lady faun. I appreciate you very much, and 882 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 2: have a good rest of the night. 883 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 3: You too. Take care. We'll see you soon. 884 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 2: Take care, okay. 885 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 3: Bye. 886 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 2: Well that was nice. That was nice. I met what 887 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 2: I said. I probably appreciate that she's, you know, taking 888 00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 2: the time to see what's going on on. I hope 889 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing that when I'm when I'm older, I'm seeing 890 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: what everyone else is into and talking to the younger 891 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 2: generation to figure out what's on their minds. It really 892 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 2: kind of got to me when she mentioned the whole 893 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 2: thing about her back. You know, it made me think 894 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 2: about there's just not a lot of time. You know, 895 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of time to do the 896 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 2: things that you want to do. So listen. I guess 897 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: what I would like from this. You know, if you're 898 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 2: listening to this right now and you liked what she 899 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 2: had to say, is if there's something you want to 900 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 2: do and you feel like if your body didn't work, 901 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 2: you couldn't do it, understand that you don't have time, 902 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: all right, You don't. Your death is imminent, the destruction 903 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: of your body is imminent. And imagine, you know, living 904 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 2: in such a situation where your mind is willing but 905 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 2: your body is unable. If you're fortunate enough to be 906 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 2: physically able right now and you want to go do something, 907 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 2: just go do it. What the fuck are you waiting for? 908 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 2: What the fuck am I waiting for? Every time I 909 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 2: talk to this motivational bullshit, I flip it. I try 910 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: to flip it back on myself. I'm like, what do 911 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 2: I what do I really want to do? I don't know. 912 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm fortunate, I really am. I'm really fortunate. I got 913 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 2: to do a lot of the shit I wanted to do. 914 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 2: It's s's I was thinking of this, you know it 915 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: was go to Japan, and then I did that, and 916 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 2: now what I really want to do is sit at 917 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: home and edit stuff and eat food. I don't know. 918 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 2: I feel like if I died tomorrow, if they told 919 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 2: me that I couldn't move tomorrow, I'd be like, well, 920 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 2: all right, we did plenty of good stuff, but what 921 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: more do I want to do. I gotta think about that. 922 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go think about that. I'm gonna go think 923 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 2: about that. 924 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 5: The Repyn goes on the line making your phone calls 925 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 5: every night. 926 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 2: The Repacon goes to any night. 927 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 3: He's teaching you cloud in the mind of your life. 928 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 4: But he's not ready. 929 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: An expert